Cruise Ship Conspiracy Theories!

Summary

The Shane Dawson Podcast

Episode: Cruise Ship Conspiracy Theories!

Air Date: December 28, 2025
Host: Shane Dawson
Co-hosts: Ryland, Spencer, Sandy, Jared, and others

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Overview

This lively episode of The Shane Dawson Podcast dives into the world of cruise ship conspiracy theories, mixes in plenty of off-the-rails humor, viral trends, and personal stories of sickness and mishaps. The crew discusses cruise line rumors, true crime at sea, internet phenomena, disappointing candy, and plays a hilarious game of “Trend it or End it.” Genuine camaraderie, self-effacing jokes, and personal confessions set the tone, while the infamous “Conspiracy Corner” delivers on the title’s theme.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Catching Up: Sicknesses, Shingles, and Resistance Tips (00:31 - 11:01)

• Chris is absent due to the flu, prompting stories about how everyone’s been constantly sick.
• Spencer reveals he had shingles, leading to a long, funny exploration of what it’s like, the pain ("it was the worst pain I've ever had, and I wanted to die" – Shane, [03:19]), and why he got it young (“Apparently, I have a really weak immune system,” – Spencer, [04:39]).
• Ryland and Sandy discuss immune system hacks, like putting VapoRub on feet (Sandy: “My mom says... this is why I don't ever get sick.” [01:56]), and the benefits of staying active.

2. More Mishaps: Dog Attack and Dermatology Appointments (11:07 - 15:44)

• Spencer shares how, after recovering from shingles, he got attacked (scratched) by a big husky dog while feeling better for the first time.
  • “I was like, finally, I feel better…walked by this guy…dog jumped at me.” – Spencer, [11:36]
• The story is met with disbelief and jokes about rabies and unlucky streaks.
• Jokes about the anxiety and awkwardness of dermatology appointments pepper the segment.

3. Mini-Trends: Candy Addictions & Comfort Foods (09:12 - 10:55)

• Spencer’s obsession with Nerds Candy Corn, likened to crack:
  • “It's like, I need it. I went to three different targets. None of them had it.” – Spencer, [09:39]
• Sandy raves about her sister’s homemade sourdough bread with celebrity-level excitement.

4. Game Time: “Trend it or End it” (18:48 - 36:38)

Premise: Discussing 2025’s social media and pop culture trends, voting as a group whether to keep them into 2026 or “end” them.
Notable Trends & Debates:

• Katy Perry in Space Memes – “We all needed something to laugh about.” (F, [21:06])
• K-Pop Demon Hunters – “The soundtrack is…the winner here. It’s so good.” – Sandy, [22:28]
• “Wicked” movie and Ariana Grande/Cynthia Erivo press tours:
  • Shane recounts humorous drunken attempts to see the movie, sitting front row, and aborting the mission. (“How are we going to walk out of Wicked? Like, that's such a bad...in the front row.” [26:41])
• Coldplay Kiss Cam – Lamenting “overused” viral trends consuming Instagram feeds.
• Dubai Chocolate – Most universally reviled trend (“They sell a fucking candy bar at circle K for $20.” – Jared, [35:38])
• Winner for “most over-it” trend: Dubai Chocolate.

5. Conspiracy Corner (40:44–63:41)

A. New Color-Theory “Dress” Meme (42:03 - 43:40)

• The crew debates a new viral image (pajamas): black & blue or white & gold?
  • “Is my shingle...Did shingles actually ruin me? Because I see white and gold…” – Spencer, [43:02]
  • Most see black and blue, except Spencer (who blames shingles).

B. AI & Deepfake Technology Fears (43:40 - 48:41)

• Shane plays a disturbing ad for an AI app recreating interactions with deceased relatives.
• Discussion about the emotional and supernatural implications (“...if they really want to talk to us, they will use technology...that to me is not great.” – Shane, [46:35]).
• The group is amazed by increasingly realistic AI-generated videos (esp. viral “person being hit at a carnival” clips).

C. TikTok Mystery: Why Shane Can’t Go Viral, But Others Can (48:41–51:52)

• Shane vents about never getting views for his own TikToks, but others’ “flow state” memes using his voice and old footage go viral (“I'm trending. Whoa, Whoa.” – Shane, [51:15]).
• Ryland bemoans the state of TikTok culture.

D. Mini Conspiracies & Life Updates (52:35–59:32)

• Mislabeled ghost kitchen foods: Best Greek food “ever” from DoorDash turns out to be from a hospital cafeteria.
• Discount store mysteries: People find BarkBox dog packages re-sold, complete with addresses, fanning theories about big brands’ marketing tricks.
• Revisiting the old Chuck E. Cheese pizza conspiracy and its enduring virality.
• Reese’s have “gone bad” – everyone tries recent Reese’s candies and agrees: the flavor and texture have changed for the worse (“They taste like plant protein...like a protein shake or something like that.” – Shane, Jared, [59:08–59:20]).

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Cruise Ship Conspiracies & True Crime (61:14 – 72:52)

Cruise Line Food Conspiracy: Laxatives in Food? (61:14 – 63:16)

• Listeners ask: Are cruise lines adding laxatives to the food so people’s poop is easier for the plumbing systems?
  • Shane calls it “kind of genius,” and the crew dives into possible explanations (preservatives, gravity differences, overeating buffet food).
• Jared confirms cruises dump waste at sea once 12 miles offshore.
• Spencer shares rumors about airplane waste getting dropped mid-flight.

True Crime: The George Smith Cruise Mystery (64:33 – 72:52)

• Sandy presents a 2005 cruise ship disappearance: George Smith, newlywed, vanishes after a night of heavy drinking, possibly foul play.
• Intertwined with theories of Russian mafia, mistaken suicide, insurance settlements, and the lack of modern surveillance.
• “These four guys saw this guy flaunting everything that he had…They put something in his drink, took him back to his hotel, and threw him overboard. And that's it.” – Jared, [71:17]
• The case remains unsolved, and the victim’s family still seeks answers.

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Notable Quotations & Moments

• On aging and sickness: “Is this what happens when we get old? Everybody just gets sick constantly?” – Shane, [01:13]
• On candy obsession: "Like crack… this is the best candy in the world." – Spencer, [09:39]
• On life's randomness: “My ass fell out. Like, all my nerves, they all broke.” – Shane, describing the anxiety of going viral unexpectedly, [49:18]
• On viral trends: “Trend it or End it?” – repeated as the battle cry for the game [20:07]
• On AI replacing human contact: “...if they really want to talk to us, they will use technology...that to me is not great.” – Shane, [46:35]
• On cruise ship bathrooms: “That many people pooping on a cruise...If I gotta poop, I'll poop in anything. I'll poop in a Stanley.” – Shane, [61:56]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Shingles & Illness Stories: 00:31–11:01
• Spencer’s Dog Attack Story: 11:07–13:43
• Nerds Candy Corn Addiction: 09:12–10:55
• “Trend It or End It” Game: 18:48–36:38
• Color Theory Dress Revisited: 42:03–43:40
• AI & Deepfake Fears: 43:40–48:41
• Shane’s TikTok Trend: 48:41–51:52
• Hospital Cafeteria as Doordash Restaurant: 52:35–53:38
• Reese’s Candy Tasting & “Decline”: 56:35–61:06
• Cruise Ship Food & Waste Conspiracies: 61:14–64:16
• True Crime at Sea (George Smith): 64:33–72:52
• Rylan’s Humorous Recap: 73:05–77:01

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Memorable, Funny, or Weird Moments

• Comparing the latent chickenpox virus to being gay: “Shingles lives in you. It's like being gay.” – Shane, [04:56]
• Awkward dermatologist stories: "I'll get naked in the lobby." – co-host, [08:57]
• Home remedies discussed, like VapoRub on the feet.
• Shane’s meltdown over being TikTok-viral without his own effort.
• The whole crew taste-tests Reese’s and finds them “like dry plant protein.”
• True crime wrap-up with a call for crowd-solving and rewards.
• Everyone reflects on their favorite moment of the past year – a sweet section with personal highlights.

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode is classic Shane Dawson: irreverent, self-referential, packed with ad-libs, deeply personal stories, and genuine interest in conspiracy theories—especially those with a humorous undertone. The crew’s chemistry makes even health woes and true crime stories funny and engaging. The “Conspiracy Corner” and “Trend it or End it” segments are standout highlights, and the episode balances ridiculous anecdotes with poignant questions about technology, internet culture, and even the supernatural.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

• Expect plenty of laughs, wild tangents, “old-person” illness stories, and trendy internet jokes.
• Trend recaps and debates are a central focus (lots of shade thrown at Dubai Chocolate).
• True crime lovers get a detailed cruise ship mystery.
• Conspiracy theorists will enjoy tangents about cruise waste, color-theory crazes, and viral marketing stunts.
• If you ever doubted the decline in Halloween candy quality, this episode will validate your suspicions.
• The vibe is breezy, banter-fueled, and perfect for fans of Shane, internet trends, or just messy group chats.

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Best Quote Summarizing the Show:
"We're a lot. But we had a fantastic time with all of you." – Shane ([77:11]).

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Now we're gonna get into some cruise ship conspiracies, guys. Oh, my God. When I saw this email, I was like, I need to talk about this. And there's a lot of rabbit holes involved. Okay? So the email said, Hey, welcome back to whatever the hell this is we're still Here edition. The world didn't end.

[C]

Was it supposed to comet the asteroid?

[B]

Yeah, it was supp. December 15th, babe. And look at us. We're here on December 30th and we're still kicking. Speaking of our world ending, guys, you might notice there is a big change today. This is really, really sad. Chris is not here. He has the flu. It is really bad. We feel so bad for him. It has been lasting a while, which we'll get to in a second. There has been illnesses flying throughout this room. Is this what happens when we get old? Everybody just gets sick constantly? Because I was sick forever. You got sick, Spencer. We'll get into his whole saga.

[C]

I literally had an old person sickness.

[B]

Literally. When you told me what you had, I was like, oh, the only I know that ever had that was 85. We'll get into that in a second. Yeah, but you know who's never sick? Mr. King and Queen of Keto because.

[C]

They drink brown sludge every day. They were just drinking before this.

[D]

I did feel a little something coming on the other day. Within 15 minutes, it was gone. Whoa.

[E]

Well, I also think that was allergies, but.

[D]

Well, don't belittle my immune system and my ability to overcome sickness.

[E]

I will give a tip. I was talking to my mom the other day. I was in her room and she was getting ready, and she put vapor up on the bottom of her feet before she put socks on. And she says, sandy, I think this is why I don't ever get sick, because I put vapor rub on my feet. And I will say, you're welcome, guys. Okay? You're welcome.

[D]

Sandy's mom is a testament to things like this. Working because she is still out there doing, like, insane work all the time for fun.

[E]

Yeah, she mows the lawn. I Mean, she's got, like, an acre lot, you know, so she's, like, mowing the lawn. She's, you know, cutting the kids do that. Well, I tell her, like, mom, if you're gonna do that, like, let us know. We'll, you know, we'll do it. She goes, sandy, I gotta keep my body moving. Like, you know, I need to do something.

[F]

An icon.

[B]

The opposite of us.

[F]

What are you talking about? I'm always out doing work.

[B]

The opposite of me.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

Okay, so, yes, Chris is not here. We miss him very much. We're so sad. We couldn't push this podcast date any further because we are in present day starting the pilot shoot literally in, like, three days. So it's gonna be crazy. And then we're going into Christmas and everybody's out of town, and it's a whole thing. So send Chris love. Even though he will be better by the time you see this, but still send him love. Why not? Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of sick, Spencer, do you. Do you want to just dive into this? Because I. When this happened to Spencer, I don't, like, cry that cried.

[C]

You cried?

[B]

No, but I could have.

[F]

He really pushed us off the ledge.

[B]

When he told me that he had this. I had a memory. And Jared, I don't know if you remember this, but one of our co workers, who I think was like, 80, had this, and when she came back to work two months later, she was like, it was the worst pain I've ever had, and I wanted to die. So when he told me he had this, I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. And he was like, yeah, my doctor said it won't be that bad, though. And in my head I'm thinking, oh, my God, he doesn't know.

[C]

Yeah. So, yeah, so I had shingles, which was a disease I had.

[B]

Dude.

[D]

Keeping it alive.

[C]

Yeah, keeping it going.

[F]

Did you know that still existed?

[C]

Well, I think it's a lot more rare because you only can get it if you've had chickenpox as a kid. But I was like, I guess I wasn't vaccinated or something. And my mom was like, it's two shots. You got the first shot, and then in between, you've got chickenpox. So I'm like, half vaxxed, I guess. I don't know. So I got it. And then it just lives in your nerves, and so it's an infection of. It's a viral infection of your actual nerve, which is why it hurts so much. And so I had it. I got lucky. I had it. On my face and neck instead of, like, a leg or something like that.

[B]

Is that lucky?

[C]

No, I was being sarcastic. It was really bad. It was like I couldn't sleep on one side of my fit.

[F]

Is it that of chickenpox? Does it look like chickenpox?

[C]

If you can see it, it's like there's still.

[D]

Oh, you still have it.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Is this contagious?

[C]

It's not contagious.

[F]

Do you want to swap seats, Shane?

[B]

Well, it is contagious to children.

[C]

It said that I. Talking about immune system. Apparently, I have a really weak immune system because it said the only reason you get it really young is if you have a terrible immune system.

[E]

Oh, no, wait, so how did you get it now?

[C]

It didn't just flare up. It just.

[B]

It just happened. It, like, lives in your body.

[C]

Yeah, it just lives and then it can just, like, activate.

[F]

Because I had chickenpox too. I'm. Any day can just break out.

[B]

Shingles lives in you. It's like being gay.

[F]

And it can awake at any time, at any moment.

[B]

You can realize that's my thing.

[F]

So if you're sitting at home straight, it might awaken in you, too.

[B]

It might.

[F]

Okay, how did this go down?

[C]

How did what go down?

[F]

Shingles.

[E]

Fryland's like, am I going to get shingles or not? What's going to happen?

[F]

Like, tell us a little bit about.

[C]

I actually, I was here at the office, and then I started feeling really sick, and I thought I had.

[B]

That's scary.

[C]

Yeah. Like, all of a sudden, I just, like, had to throw up so bad. I literally drove home and I, like, barely made it home, opened my door, threw up out the door.

[B]

I could not.

[F]

It was so embarrassing.

[B]

First of all, okay, so I saw Spencer and I was like, you look not great. Like, you looked sick.

[C]

Kind of like how Sandy said, yeah.

[B]

I was like, you don't look good. And then he was just like, yeah, I don't feel good. And I was like, oh, maybe do you want to go home? Or, like, do you have a flu or something? And you were just like, I think I'll be okay. I start my, like, meeting, which was on FaceTime. And like, two seconds into the meeting, I'm talking to an actor, and then I just see a little bubble pop up. Like a text bubble from Spencer. And it's just like, I just threw up another text bubble. I'm still throwing up. What? I just assumed, like, the plague is here and I'm about to start barfing on FaceTime with an actor. Like, oh, My God. Anyway, so I felt so bad.

[C]

Yeah, it was crazy. It felt like I was going through like 10 different sicknesses at once because I thought I had food poisoning. And then luckily I was going to the dermatologist the next day. I was like, this is like this annoying. Like I thought it was like bad acne on like my ear or something like that. And then it was like. He's like, it's shingles bad luck anyway. And he kind of just like ushered me like, luck. Yeah, he kind of like. I was like, oh, what a week. He's like, man, bad luck. I'm like, okay.

[F]

He didn't give you any more than that.

[C]

He really gave me not a lot because I even was like, I think I had food poisoning. And he's like, ah, yeah, probably. He was like. And then I was like looking it up. I was even texting Shane and he was like, I think he's wrong. Like I think these symptoms are the shingles. I looked it up.

[D]

You get.

[C]

You do get really sick. It like you can like feel the nerves. You can like feel the like. Cuz it like the like you can feel where all your nerve endings are. Cuz it just starts to like, it just randomly will flare up and just be really painful.

[B]

Can I ask a gross question? How is your butt? Cuz this is my butt. Isn't your butt where. Is this a rumor? Where your butt is? Where all your nerves collect. That's why like some people put vodka in their butt to get drunk. Is this a rumor? No.

[D]

The butt of your nerve endings are.

[B]

It's like a balloon, right? Where like all the things come to the butt of the balloon. It's like your nerves are. They all come to the butt.

[F]

You're making me hurt.

[E]

That does make sense. I feel like if you get surgery on your nose or you know, something going on your face, they usually give you medication for you to like not strain. Because they say that like when you cough, it actually pulls those nerves from your butt. Yeah, I think that.

[C]

Oh wow.

[D]

That's actually your testicles.

[C]

Well, luckily my butt and testicles are shingles free.

[D]

Good for you.

[B]

And that's a win.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And you said you went to a dermatologist.

[C]

I did, yeah.

[B]

So did I.

[F]

Good job.

[C]

And hey, no need to brag.

[B]

How did that go?

[D]

Well, no, it was a huge thing because it took like months to get in.

[C]

Yeah, it's the worst.

[D]

But I had to strip down to just my underwear. I took Sadie with me. I did not crack any fatties in the Waiting room. But, yeah, but they checked out my body and everything and said that I look great. Wow.

[E]

Yeah. He was so nervous about this appointment. He was like, sandy, can you please be there? He's like, I'm really nervous. And I said, well, are you nervous about them seeing you or, like, them finding something? He's like, both. I was like, oh.

[F]

I mean, it's nerve wracking. And nowadays in 2025, they send in, like two assistants to make sure that you don't like something bad to the main doctor. And it's like, now I'm more uncomfortable because there's four people just looking at me naked.

[D]

And I'm happy the way it went down because the first time I went and they told me, oh, yeah, we have to schedule you for your full body scan. And I thought, oh, I'm gonna have to get naked. This is bad. But that was when I was at my fattest. You know what I'm saying? So there was a lot of anxiety going on. But this time I went in, I was like, I'll get naked in the lobby.

[B]

And they were like, that's why we have two assistants.

[C]

Yeah. Please do not be sure.

[D]

Tranquilize him. But no, I'm free. I'm clear.

[B]

Well, as a celebration, Spencer, for your shingles free new life. Although it could just come back at any moment.

[C]

Yeah, for now. For now, for now. Thanks for reminding me.

[B]

Yeah. But to celebrate, I did get you a present. And I might have already told you about this. Oh. Trying to lift your spirits. But Spencer got obsessed with nerds candy corn.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[F]

He said, I got you a few. It was. It was quite devastating. We were at Target with Spencer and he goes, yeah. Ever since we tried those, I stop at a different target location every time I leave work to find them, and they're nowhere.

[C]

Wow, thank you so much. These are so welcome. They literally, it felt like how, you know how drug dealers are, like, have a little bit of, like, crack, like, just for free. And then it was like, oh, my God, like, I need it. I, like, I had it. I was like, this is the best candy in the world. I need to find it. I went to three different targets. None of them had it. Wow.

[B]

It's fucking insane. It's so good. So I got an extra bag for me, and then I opened it. I've been eating it all week. Whenever I get stressed or anxious or nervous, I just take a handful of those. And it honestly does change my brain chemistry.

[F]

Like, it sponsored by nerds.

[C]

Yes, nerds have been Knocking it out of the park.

[D]

But nothing is a better endorsement than comparing something to crack.

[C]

That is.

[D]

I wanna someday in life create something where people say, that's like, crack.

[F]

Are you okay sharing?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I have found my own version of crack lately.

[C]

That's interesting.

[E]

Is sourdough bread. My sister's been making her own sourdough bread, and she makes it with, like, chilies and cheese, and then she just made, like, a cinnamon one the other day. And it is so good. Jared says I can't without him being there because he doesn't trust me.

[D]

Absolutely not.

[E]

It's. Yeah, it's bad.

[C]

That sounds really good.

[B]

How are they?

[D]

Mmm.

[B]

They're fucking insane. Right? I got them from some sketchy ass fucking website. I checked the expiration date. They're fine. But I don't even know where I ended up on Target. No, because they don't sell them. They're Halloween candy.

[C]

Make more of. Make more Nerds.

[B]

Yeah, make them in tree shapes for Christmas. Heart shapes for Valentine's Day. Nerds. Step it the fuck up.

[F]

They're saying candy corn, but it's not candy corn. It's the texture of candy corn.

[E]

Like a chewy texture.

[B]

Can we also really just get into something that Rylan doesn't believe happened? And I feel really bad for you, Spencer, that you have somebody so close to you at the moment. Literally not believe your trauma. But Spencer told me the other day that he not only survived shingles, but got attacked by a dog.

[C]

I got attacked by a goddamn dog.

[B]

And I told Rylan. And Rylan goes, no, he didn't. What?

[F]

I was like, it just doesn't seem real.

[C]

That's what I felt when it happened to me.

[E]

Wait, how big was this dog?

[C]

It was a big dog. I didn't get that. I didn't really get that hurt. I just got a little scratch in my arm. It was just more like, what the hell? Like, I was just. I was like, finally, I feel better. I'm gonna walk to the grocery store, just pick up some food. I don't have anything in the apartment. Like, all right. It's, like a nice day. And I was just feeling good, and then I walked by this guy. He's a pretty small guy with, like, a big kind of husky type of dog on a leash. And then I. Like, last second I was walking by, and then I sort of looked at the dog, made eye contact with the dog. I was like, oh, that's not a friendly dog. And it, like, jumped at me. And I was like, I was.

[F]

And then what did the owner do?

[C]

He was just like, oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. And then he just kind of ran.

[E]

Away when he left the dog, or he ran away with. With the dog.

[C]

With the dog on, like, a leash.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I was like, what just happened? I look around, there was, like, a homeless dude on the bus stop. Like, man, that shit was crazy. Yeah, it was.

[B]

See, Rylan, it happened.

[D]

Wait, did it bite you or scratch?

[C]

It just scratch. I was, like, worried because I also afterwards was like, when you get attacked by dog, you should ask, like, hey, is your dog, like, vaccinate? Like, you know, you're like, you think.

[E]

That'S what you're thinking about after getting the attack? I mean, is your dog vaccinate?

[C]

I don't want to catch rabies. I don't want to, like, die from rabies.

[E]

We also didn't get fed.

[F]

Exactly.

[C]

I just got scratched.

[D]

You go to your dermatologist. I think I have rabies.

[C]

You do.

[B]

Bad luck. Bad luck. Bye.

[C]

But, yeah, so I had, like, 20 minutes where I was like, well, I'm going to die of rabies after shingles. And then I was like, no, that. It was clearly like a pet dog. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like a out of control dog. Anyway.

[F]

Yeah. Like, Shane came home and he's like. I go, well, how was Spencer? Is he doing better? Shane's like, yeah, but then he got attacked by a dog. I was like, you're lying to me.

[C]

It did feel like I was like, I need to, like. Like, what are you talking about? I need to, like, make right in the world or something. Like, I did something to someone.

[E]

You know, when I was in elementary, I was walking home and I actually got chased by a dog. I was, like, turning into, like, my neighborhood, and I got chased by this, I'm assuming, a German shepherd out.

[C]

That's what I'm saying.

[E]

But I ran so hard, I jumped behind somebody's, like, truck, like, their pickup truck. And I just stood there crying, like, yelling for help. I was terrified. And no joke, I was scared of dogs for, like, decades. It's terrifying.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, it makes sense, especially as a kid. That's crazy.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

But I still like dogs.

[B]

Okay, well, speaking of dog fights. Or wait, it's more of a cat and dog fight, because as we were setting up for the podcast and I was going over notes and stuff, I heard two little birdies in the other room talking. Rylan and Cindy. And they were talking about all the things that Jared did to piss Sandy off. And Sandy said she Was keeping a list for the podcast.

[F]

No, this was not for your podcast.

[C]

This is for the sip.

[E]

Oh, and I. Oh, but I do have one thing. I do have one thing.

[F]

She's producing the sip period.

[E]

I do have one thing. So the other day, I was having just a moment, you know, feeling kind of emotional now. I don't remember why, but. And then. So he was in the kitchen and I was in the living room, and I said, you know, I'm feeling so much better. I said, do you know what would make me feel even better? And he goes, what? And I said, if I just sing to you, can I sing to you? And he goes, please don't.

[D]

I was having a moment. I was cooking. There was a lot going on, and I just couldn't do it at that moment.

[B]

Wait, what?

[F]

Wait, what would you sing?

[E]

Well, lately I've been singing Chestnut. You know the Chestnut song? Chestnut's roasting. Yeah. So he just doesn't, you know, just.

[B]

Singing it at him.

[E]

Well, just singing aloud.

[C]

It's like Christmas caroling.

[D]

I will say, though, back in the day, she used to sing very loud in the car with the windows up.

[E]

Yeah, he didn't.

[D]

We had to stop that. That's a little bit extreme.

[B]

Why are you looking at me?

[F]

No, you just listen to things too loud.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

They ain't catching strays over here.

[E]

Yeah. One time we were at home years ago, and I was singing, and he walked outside of the house, like, across the street, and he said he'd hear me all the way over there.

[F]

Power.

[E]

Yeah, that's what my singing teacher said. She said, you got a big voice. We just need to teach you how to use it. I'm pretty sure she said it's kind of like a horse. I don't know. Remember horse? Yeah. Thanks, Ms. Joanne.

[F]

Shout out.

[E]

She's the best.

[B]

Well, Sandy, have you ever thought about serenading Jared in Spanish?

[E]

Well, I do sing Selena's songs, but I'm down to learn more.

[B]

And, Jared, would it be nice to know what Sandy was singing?

[D]

I want nothing more than that.

[B]

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[F]

Yay.

[D]

Wow, that was a cool little harmony right there.

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Okay, so this game. Do we have a name for this?

[C]

No, we said we'd make one and we forgot.

[B]

Oh, no. Okay, let me think.

[F]

Okay, why don't you tell us the story?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Describe the game and then we can see.

[B]

I'll describe the game.

[F]

A game of the game.

[B]

Okay.

[E]

Fun.

[B]

Okay, so the game is in this 2023, right? Or 2423.

[C]

When did Barbie come out?

[B]

Well, this was like the pink Stanley that everybody was, like, murdering each other for.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay. Nobody actually got murdered, right?

[C]

No, no one murdered.

[D]

They could buy murder in their hearts, though, for that thing.

[B]

You're right. Okay, so, yes, this is the pink Stanley that caused Catastrophe 2 because it was the biggest trend of that year. Well, we have so many more trends that have happened in the last year. So what we did was Spencer went and wrote a bunch of little trends on little pieces of paper and put them in this iconic Stanley.

[F]

Okay, are these trends in Spencer's world or the rest of the world?

[C]

I tried to make it a spread. They're not. Basically not my world.

[F]

Okay.

[C]

Some of them are maybe stretches. We'll see. We'll see. I got it from different sources because.

[F]

If they were trends in Spencer's world, we'd all be out.

[C]

Yeah, I should have done that. I should have done a bonus round.

[B]

So I'm gonna pull out one, I'm gonna read it, and then we're all gonna vote on whether it should stay in 2025 or if it should come with us in 2026. So what should we call this game and what should we yell?

[D]

Trend it or end it?

[B]

Yeah. Whoa.

[E]

That was.

[F]

I do feel like we're on the morning hours of the Today show. Trend it or end it.

[C]

Yeah, it's very Today show coming.

[B]

Wow. Okay, here we go. The first trend is. Oh, no, we're taking up space.

[E]

Oh, geez.

[B]

The Katy Perry in space memes. I love it. I mean, okay, let's all vote. 1, 2, 3. Trained it.

[E]

End it.

[C]

End it.

[B]

Let me. Okay, let me fight for it. I know it's frivolous and dumb to send a bunch of rich people up to space to float around for two seconds. And, like, I get that it's dumb, but all of them, like, holding hands and turning to the camera going, we're taking up space. All them of was so funny, like, and I needed it.

[F]

Everyone did. We all needed Something to laugh about. And honestly, they provided that for the world. So thank you for your service.

[B]

I mean, they probably. I don't know if it, like, damaged the world. I don't. I. I'm not a scientist. I don't think it was great for the world. But now what we also get out of it is every interviewer asking every celebrity like, so when are you going to go to space?

[C]

So true.

[B]

And they all have to figure out an answer where they're, like, not being too mean to Katie. Like, would you do it?

[F]

I think I've done enough.

[B]

It is pretty entertaining.

[F]

When are you going to space?

[B]

Me personally? Well, that's another thing. So I saw a clip of Ariana Grande where, like, from years ago, they're like, when do you want to go to space? And she's like, I want to go up there. Send me there. I love space. And then they asked her recently, and she was like, I do not want to go to space. I was like, wow, Katie made us all really such a questionnaire.

[E]

I wouldn't do that trip.

[B]

Personally.

[E]

I'm staying right here for now. I think it makes sense, you know?

[B]

Good for her.

[F]

Yes. She's always trying.

[C]

Didn't you go to her tour or something?

[B]

Because of this? No, because of that.

[F]

I'm a Katy cat, right. I like Katy Perry.

[E]

I think the memes were funny, don't get me wrong. But I feel like that should be, like, a time capsule of that moment and let's move on, you know?

[B]

Right. Like, we don't need any other celebrities going up in space.

[E]

I don't think they're going to.

[B]

All right, next trend. And guys, feel free to play along with us in the comments below. K Pop Demon Hunters.

[C]

Biggest movie of the year, folks.

[B]

Three, two, one.

[F]

Trend.

[E]

It trended.

[F]

I haven't seen it.

[E]

I loved it.

[B]

So I can't sing it.

[E]

It's so good.

[B]

Okay, what is it about?

[E]

So it's about. It's about this girl who is a demon fighter, and she's trying to save her community because the demons are starting to come up from the underworld. And by her singing in her group, it's essentially like, kills the demons or puts them back into the underworld. But the soundtrack is really the winner here. It's so good, every song. And a cool fact is that the girl that sings for the main singer, she. I believe in Korea they have school where a bunch of singers or aspiring singers go to, and that's how they develop these groups. Well, you kind of age out, I think, by, like, 27 or something. So she essentially aged out, and then she started writing these songs and blew up on this show. Yeah, it's so good. All the songs are like, ugh.

[B]

Are you serenading Jared around the house with it?

[C]

That's what you're trying to get the demons. Yeah, I'm just trying to get you.

[F]

To pay attention so we can fight the demons.

[E]

No, he just. He doesn't really watch anime, and I don't really watch anime either, but my sister's super into it, so I watched the last 15 minutes of it and I got hooked. And so I was like, I gotta watch the whole thing.

[F]

I wanted to see what all the fuss was about, but Shane just won't follow. Trust with me.

[B]

Yeah, you fall asleep during everything. I can't watch anything with you because halfway through you're like, I'm going to sleep. And then you say it.

[C]

You say, I'm going to sleep.

[F]

I know.

[B]

I'm tapping out. I have to wait all day.

[F]

He drives 24 hours. We can't just, like, start a movie and then finish it the next time he has to start and finish the movie.

[B]

I respect film and I need to see a movie from beginning. Okay. We started watching the movie what Women Want the other night, which, if you haven't seen it, so good. Iconic movie and Mel Gibson, he can.

[F]

Have a few plot holes.

[B]

He can hear.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

No, he can hear what women are thinking. And then Helen Hunt. It's really good. Okay. So we start watching it, and now we're at the climax. We're at, like, this big moment. Him and Helen Hunt. Are they. Aren't they. Are they gonna kiss? Are they not gonna kiss? And then Rylan goes, I'm going to sleep. Don't watch this without me. And I'm like, okay. So then the next night, we start watching it. Ryland's like, what's happening? Who's that?

[E]

I just want to say good for you, Rylan. You know your boundaries. You know when you're ready and you're calling it a night, good for you.

[B]

We don't. Can't watch movies. Okay, next trend is. Okay, never mind. Wicked. Okay, are we.

[F]

What is it ending it trend it or end it?

[B]

Okay, 1, 2, 3, trend it. I was too afraid to say anything.

[F]

No, it was not like. It was great for what it was for sure. And it had its two year presence. So, like, I think we've had.

[B]

They're making more.

[C]

You guys walked out of. You guys said you walked out of the second one.

[F]

That's none of your business.

[B]

Okay, can I. Can I. No, let's leave it in.

[F]

Although Shane did threaten me. He goes, you can't tell that story on the sip.

[B]

I told it anyways because I wouldn't be there to explain my side of it. Okay? So here's what happened. We got. We went to Javier's, our favorite restaurant, and I had. Literally, there's a problem. I need to go to a doctor and figure it out. I had one drink, okay? One. One shot of vodka in my Diet Coke. And I was like. Had to be lifted out of the restaurant. I was like, oh. Like, it was crazy. Whatever. So I was drunk. And then Ryland's like. He knew I was drunk. And he was just like, we should go to Wicked.

[F]

I don't want to be left out of the conversation, you know? I want to know what's going on, okay?

[B]

And listen, I love Ari. So I'm like, listen, I'm down. Let's go. I go. And there's no seats available. It is sold out. Every single show in every single theater in our vicinity. We are in the gayest area ever. It was, like, near West Hollywood. Just so packed, right? The only seats they had available were the. In the front. Front front row, side of the front. It was crazy, right? So we get there. I'm so drunk at this point. We sit down, and I'm just like, huh? And then, like, Cynthia and Ari pop up beforehand, and I'm just, like, hallucinating, like, seeing them from this weird perspective.

[F]

Turn your neck to see each one of them because it's so close to the screen.

[B]

It was crazy. And I was just like, I can't do this. And then, like, a lion started singing, and I was just like, oh, my God, I'm too drunk for this. I need to be sober for this. And I turn and Rylan asleep. And then I just poke him.

[F]

I'm like, well, I tried.

[B]

I think I'm having a panic attack. We have to. It's too big. And I'm, like, so drunk. We have to go. But how are we going to walk out of Wicked? Like, that's such a bad.

[C]

Front row.

[B]

In the front row, okay?

[F]

You pretend you have to go pee, and then three minutes later, I have to go pee too.

[C]

And we just.

[B]

I. I went to go pee, right? And so I stand, you know, like, off to the side, and I'm, like, still kind of watching the movie, and I'm waiting for Ryan. I swear to God, he fell asleep again because I was, like, waiting there for 10.

[F]

Well, I was having, like, I don't know, I felt like I was gonna be booed out of the theater. You know what I'm talking about? It's like, they know I'm not going to the bathroom. I'm leaving.

[E]

They just know you're not going to the bath.

[F]

You can see it all over my face in the dark theater that I'm leaving because I can't be there anymore.

[E]

I'm excited to see where they take it because it's going again.

[B]

Yes. They're making more.

[F]

Enough.

[C]

I'm sorry, you're saying end it.

[F]

I know. Like, Ariana, I'm gonna go to meet the parents or whatever, the next one of those. Like, I'm supportive of the actors in it. But, like, we've had enough, right? Like, there's not another press tour that I can take.

[B]

I'm sure they're over it too. I'm sure Cynthia and Ariana are just like, can we move on? And then Universal is like, yeah, come back. You're doing it again. Doing it again. Here's a brew.

[C]

They have like a green face paint. Like, come here, come here.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

It's not the movies that are as exhausting as the press tours.

[E]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

It's a lot.

[B]

Next. Next trend. Oh, my gosh. Coldplay Kiss Cam. Oh, and it.

[C]

Do you guys remember this?

[E]

I sure did.

[F]

I heard you forget. Yeah, they're still making claims.

[C]

I'm still talking about it.

[F]

I see headlines to this day about, like, people involved in a couple by Kiss.

[B]

Okay. I don't care about the actual. I mean, whatever, if it was real or not, I don't know. But what I want to end is now every time somebody's on a jumbo thing.

[C]

Yes, yes.

[B]

And on Instagram reels, it's always just like, oh, oh, it's a Coldplay Kiss Cam moment. I'm like, oh, my God.

[C]

Because every, like, PR or, like, media person at every sports arena is like, oh, great. New thing, new thing. And then it's like, we're still doing that.

[F]

It's like, how often are you guys coming across Kiss Cam content?

[C]

Every day, I guess. All the Kiss Cam accounts I follow.

[F]

I don't really have that problem.

[B]

What is your Instagram Explore page?

[F]

Houses.

[C]

That's it.

[F]

Sprinkled in with, like, what I fed my 2 year old today.

[B]

Yeah, mine is. And we'll talk about it later in the show, but mine, for some reason, is just people getting hit in the head at the carnival. But it's like the same video but different people. And they're like, hey, guys, I'm here at the carnival. And then, like, they get hit in the head with a ride.

[F]

I mean, no, I'll show you one.

[B]

Later in the show.

[C]

So specific.

[B]

I have seen seven of them. It's not real. It's AI. Yeah. Okay.

[F]

What's Jared's Hot Wheels?

[D]

Hot Wheels. And then, like, you, I do have some AI where it's like a chiropractor and a senior citizen that just body slams them through a wall. It's entertaining a little bit. I don't know if it's like a bad person vibe to say it's entertaining.

[C]

But only because it's fake.

[E]

I send Jared so many memes and he doesn't even open them up.

[F]

Lizzie does the same to me.

[B]

I do the same to you. And you always tell me I don't open Instagram before noon.

[F]

I don't.

[C]

That's annoying.

[F]

Well, because the annoying thing about Shane is he. He won't just DM it to me. Like, he won't just, like, hit the airplane and share. He texts me a link and then he wants to discuss it when he wakes up. And I'm like, I haven't watched it because I don't open Instagram until noon.

[E]

Well, you know what? I showed him because on my Explore feed, there's also couple, like, the trending things that couples do. And so I showed Jared one and he was like, oh, we can't do that.

[D]

What was it?

[E]

Remember, it was when the girl was, like, swinging on top of him. Like, he picked her up and then he, like, put her back down.

[D]

Yeah, let's try that right now and see how it goes. I would love to prove myself wrong on that one.

[E]

No, just, like, still laid back.

[D]

And she always has said to me that Denzel Washington, oh, I'm leaving with something. I'm leaving with something.

[B]

I'm like, I'm leaving here with something.

[F]

You know what I mean?

[B]

I'm from around the way. I'm leaving with something.

[D]

Like, oh, when you go to Disneyland and they tell you you can't have anything.

[B]

I'm leaving with something. I'm leaving with something.

[E]

I'm from around the way.

[D]

I'm leaving with something.

[E]

First of all, I love Denzel Washington. His birthday is December 28th, and I already told Jared that we are watching all Denzel movies. I'm obsessed with him.

[C]

Happy birthday, Denzel.

[B]

Happy birthday, Denzies.

[E]

And you know what tricks me is that? You know those. I'm assuming they're AI movie or videos where it's like Denzel who talks first, and then, like, it goes to, like, scenery, but it kind of sounds like Denzel, but then towards, like, probably close to the end, I'm like. Like, this is not Denzel. Why am I watching this whole video? But it gets me every single time. Every single time.

[C]

A lot of Denzel feed. It's the same thing with Joe Rogan.

[D]

Like, did you hear what he said?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, it's like some.

[D]

It's like, there ain't no way that's what he was referring to, but yeah.

[F]

AI. Wow.

[B]

All right, next. Nothing beats a Jet2 holiday.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I don't even get it. I haven't ever finished one of them. I don't know what it means. Show.

[F]

What's the show? Oh, Love Island. Right.

[B]

I don't know.

[C]

I think it's just an ad.

[B]

Oh.

[F]

Nothing beats a Jetu Holiday.

[E]

And right now, it doesn't even make.

[C]

Sense what people put it on.

[F]

It's a sound.

[B]

It's like a. It's like Scarlet takes a tumble.

[C]

Oh.

[D]

I did recently see an Instagram account called Poops Daily or something like that, where all it is and it's disgusting, but for some reason, I scrolled through, like, 10 of them is just people pooping in public.

[C]

Public.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Like, someone will be walking through, like, CVS and just, like, take a dump. But they put that over, like, nothing beats a Jet to holiday. And then somebody just fly pooping all over the wall of, like, McDonald's or something.

[B]

Okay. It's funny.

[C]

Yeah, it was funny.

[B]

That result me.

[D]

But they kind of overused it after, like, the third one, and I heard that. I'm like, okay, we need new material. They're pooping.

[B]

I get it.

[D]

But, like, I want a different backdrop for this. But, yeah, I have heard that.

[C]

Wow, that sounds like a good account.

[F]

I'm still gonna say end it.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And end it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, good. All right, let's do a couple more. Oh, Laboos.

[F]

I already.

[D]

I knew it by the O. I'm over it.

[C]

Yeah. I think the world is a little over.

[F]

Always over it.

[B]

You know what's so weird, though? It didn't have that moment of, like. Like, Labu didn't do anything wrong. Like, Labuu didn't have anything happen. It just, like, everybody slowly forgot about them.

[F]

Although we did pass one of those stores the other day, and it was still popping.

[E]

We just recently went to a collectible show. They had a ton of Labubus, and they're clothes. Like, so many clothes. For these Labubus, it's crazy, but Jared was telling me that they're not really in trend anymore, so.

[B]

So money lost.

[F]

They're out.

[B]

Okay. Next trend is life of a showgirl. Mm.

[C]

Dangerous territory.

[D]

Why is that?

[F]

I love.

[D]

I don't even know what it is.

[C]

It's the Taylor Swift.

[F]

Taylor Swift. Why don't you fuck around and find out?

[B]

Swifties.

[D]

Whoa.

[C]

Yeah, it's the Taylor Swift album that came out this year.

[B]

I have a lot. I actually kind of have a lot of thoughts about this, and I don't think they're problematic. Can I. Should I share first before we vote?

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I kind of feel like music, the music industry in general, as I'm getting older and as more and more artists and more and more music and more and more of this, more and more of that. I feel like things kind of come and go really fast. And it used to be like an artist would come out, drop one song and that for six months. They're playing that song and then they drop another. Or the album, it lasts for four years until their next album, like the Britney Spears album, Like, that lasted two, three years. I feel like now it's almost like you put out music and everybody's like, where's the next one? And people move on so fast.

[F]

We're living in a world of singles and we're living in a world where people can put out music. Anybody. It's like with streamers or YouTube or. Everyone has the ability to create now. Like, everyone can be a musical artist and post on TikTok and have the same opportunity a big artist could if they have a hit song. So it makes everyone, even the superstars, less impactful.

[D]

And also, I think you're. You're referring to a time where, like, terrestrial radio was 99% of music listening. I mean, now it's. You go on the Internet and people play it out in, like, one day and then they want the next thing.

[F]

It is crazy, though, with, like, Life of the Showgirl, you could not turn around without avoiding it for probably two weeks, three weeks, maybe a month. And then silence. Like.

[B]

Yeah, it's kind of weird.

[D]

What was I at for these two weeks?

[C]

You didn't even know what it was.

[B]

You were Pete Katosis.

[E]

I still see reels with her music on there. I just think now everybody's on to the documentary that's gonna come out. I just feel like you said everything's so fast paced.

[C]

I do think she, in a way, also kind of discovered the new version of what you're saying where it's like, like the thing that's gonna last a long time is a tour. Because the tour is gonna last for like months and like everyone's gonna pursue the video. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah.

[B]

Okay, last one. Grand finale. Here we go. The last trend of 2025 is Dubai chocolate.

[F]

Ended trending. Hate it over it.

[D]

They sell a fucking candy bar at circle K for $20.

[B]

What? And it ain't even big.

[D]

It's just so people can walk around flexing Dubai. And I get it. It's pistachios that are all blended and pistachios ain't cheap. But I could buy a whole bag of pistachios for $3.

[C]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[D]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Once I saw Walmart did like this Dubai cakes, I was like. And yeah.

[E]

I love it. Stay Dubai Chocolate. Stay, please.

[D]

She just wants to eat her Dubai chocolate. JetBlue Vacation Walter and Damon Hotel.

[E]

Trend it.

[B]

Well, there you go. That was our trend it or end it for 2025. Which of the trends do you feel the most strongly about? Let us know in the comments. Which trend should we end? Like, should we have a full on funeral for. I'm going to say, I guess Lulu Boos.

[F]

Yeah, but see, I feel more passionately about ending Dubai Chocolate because the booboo is already sad enough.

[B]

You know, in Dubai, do they eat that chocolate or are they over there being like, why are they calling the chocolate?

[C]

That's a good question.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Is that just like a thing people know is like, ooh, Dubai.

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[B]

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[B]

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Oh, no, it's been on.

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[E]

Oh, it's the best.

[B]

Hilarious. Okay, I'm gonna go pee. I'm gonna look up the Denzel meme, and when we come back, it is a really good conspiracy corner because we also have a true crime that ties in with the conspiracy.

[D]

She wouldn't even let me talk to her before we got here. She's been really working on this. It's good she came with something.

[E]

I said, don't talk to me.

[F]

We're not a true crime host who does her homework.

[E]

Geez. He's like, sandy, you're overthinking. Don't talk to me until we, you know, we get in there.

[B]

I can't wait. All right, we'll be right back. See you in a second. Hey, welcome back. Okay, guys, I don't want to start this off with a fight, but I will say it is the end of the year, so maybe it could be kind of fun. I wasn't even gonna do this one because when I read it, I was like, there's no way. And then Spencer was like, oh, crap. And I was like, what? He goes, I think this is real. And I was like, what?

[F]

Well, who are you fighting with?

[C]

It's about to be you.

[F]

You produced the segment.

[C]

There's a rat in the house.

[E]

Are you ready?

[C]

Can you take a wild guess what it's gonna be about?

[F]

Stupid fucking color theory.

[B]

Guys, we have a new dress. And I'm not kidding. This is a real, genuine new dress.

[F]

Why can't you guys be optimistic and hope me and Shane both see eye to eye?

[B]

We can be. I 100% see one thing. And then Spencer was like, I see the other thing. I know.

[C]

Unfortunately, I did see the other thing.

[F]

So at least I have Spencer on my side. If I'm not on yours.

[E]

Well, he also had shingles, so maybe that, you know, fucking my brain.

[F]

Maybe he's seen clearly now.

[B]

Okay, ready? This is an email from Marin. Hey, guys. I want to apologize in advance.

[F]

How sorry are you, Maren?

[B]

I found another instance of the black and blue versus white and gold dress. And I see white and gold, but all of my friends see black and blue. Let me know what you guys see. Okay, Spencer, show them the picture.

[F]

Deep breaths. You don't need to fight any battle. You don't have to prove anything to anyone.

[B]

Okay.

[F]

Oh, I see black and blue.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

What?

[B]

Really?

[F]

Black and blue.

[C]

Wait, really, Jared, what do you see?

[E]

Jared, Be honest.

[D]

I see black and blue.

[B]

Really? What the.

[F]

I don't even see a hint of white and gold.

[B]

Well, wait, look at it on my phone.

[C]

Wait, is my shingle. Did shingles actually ruin me? Because I see white and gold still to this day?

[B]

Oh, no.

[C]

Still to this very day.

[F]

I mean, where sunlight.

[D]

White's hitting the kneecap. I do see a little bit of gradation within the colors.

[F]

All I see is, like, blue, blue and black.

[B]

Black. Okay, that is kind of scary.

[C]

That is worrying. Maybe the shingles didn't mess me up.

[F]

So other people do see white and gold.

[B]

Okay, let us know in the comments. What do you see? Do you see black and blue? Do you see white and gold? Because I was. I'm determined that this is the new dress. The pajamas are the new. That's pajamas, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

The pajamas are the new dress for the Christmas season.

[F]

Trend it.

[B]

I just love that we're on the same page. This is so fun. It feels really weird. Okay, so this next one is crazy. We talked about how so many episodes of Black Mirror are coming to life. One of the episodes that we talked about was the app where it was like an AI version of a relative or a loved one that passed away. And you can, like, still talk to them and connect with them after they're gone. I think we all kind of agreed that that's too dark and too sad. And I don't know the. Like, it's not them because it's not them.

[C]

That's the whole episode.

[B]

Yes. And I understand the need for, like, you know, the grieving process, and I can't even wrap my head around how sad that is. But also, like, I'm not a scientist. I don't know.

[C]

It's not good.

[B]

Should we yawning again?

[F]

No, I was reacting.

[B]

You were yawning?

[F]

I was reacting. I was reacting. Black and blue.

[B]

Okay. Okay. Well, I was on Instagram and I saw this, and I thought it was not real. It is.

[E]

He's getting bigger See?

[F]

Oh, honey, that's wonderful.

[E]

Kicking like crazy.

[B]

He's listening.

[F]

Put your hand on your tummy and hum to him.

[B]

You used to love that.

[F]

The ad's even worse.

[E]

That's too much. He's dancing in there.

[F]

What?

[B]

Mom, would you tell Charlie that bedtime.

[E]

Story you always used to tell me?

[F]

Once upon a time, there was a baby unicorn who didn't know he knew how to fly. This baby unicorn was like your mom, because she didn't know that she knew how to fly, but she knew how to do all kinds of fabulous things.

[E]

Hi, Grandma.

[F]

Hey, Charlie. How was school today?

[B]

What?

[E]

It was really fun. I made this. Crazy.

[B]

I didn't make it this far in the ad.

[C]

Yeah, it's crazy. It's really weird. This is their official ad, by the way.

[B]

Are you fucking kidding me?

[C]

They put this out. There he is. It's the guy.

[B]

What the fuck?

[E]

I will say. I've seen photos. I'm sure you guys have seen the ads on, like, Instagram or somewhere where it's like a photo and you're essentially enhancing it. And it moves like.

[C]

Like hairdresser.

[E]

Just like a gesture. Like a gesture? Yeah, like smiling or something like that. To me, I feel like that's kind of interesting, but this is too much. I feel like I don't want anybody talking about back to me. That's. That's scary.

[B]

Well, the craziest part about this, it's really weird, is this app was created by a former Disney star. Was that Charlie Worthy?

[F]

Was he in the app?

[C]

Yeah, he was like, the older guy.

[B]

I think he was in the app. But it is. I. I don't love the idea of talking to a dead person. I don't. I don't know. And especially the way that I see the. The afterlife, where I've heard from mediums, like, I've heard that demons, ghosts, anything beyond can use technology to talk to us. And if they really want to talk to us, they will use technology. So I don't like the idea of them being like, ooh, an app. Yeah, fun. And then they use that like. That, to me, is not great because.

[D]

This shows that avatar that he's holding on the phone in his hand that could easily be replicated with, like, 50 other of them and make a movie or something.

[B]

Something.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Well, this is an example of something. I know this is going to sound stupid. I brought this up earlier in the show. There is a video I saw on Instagram that I was. I thought it was real and it scared the. Out of me. Yes. It's kind of funny, but, like, it was so realistic. And then I showed Ryland, and he was like, that's AI. And I know this is going to sound crazy, but this is one of the first times I've ever seen AI be so real that I could not wrap my head around it. Our fair tonight. That's finished.

[E]

Star Ride behind time.

[B]

It's supposed to be safe. I don't trust it. Oh, why is that low? Wait. Ah, my back.

[E]

Oh, my God.

[C]

This is the thing you get on your Instagram seven times.

[B]

Yes. There's multiple people do it. Getting hit by. By carnival games. But, like, isn't that crazy? How fucking real that. Look at it on your phone.

[F]

You don't see the glitches.

[B]

You don't see the glitch. You don't see the little, like, tiny, little glitchy. Like, this is so fucking real. Every single element of it.

[F]

Even the carnival.

[D]

I am willing to bet, if I had to, that it's real, that, well, she would. She is not part of a green screen doing that. And they're creating the background to coincide with it.

[F]

No, it's Sora Bay.

[B]

There is multiple of these. So now you guys will have these on your algorithm because you were in the same idea as me, but there is, like, a hundred of these of, like. It's a Sora thing. You type in, like, person getting hit in the head with whatever, and you get this. It's crazy.

[D]

So this is generated based off a prompt that you just put into it.

[B]

Not me personally, but yeah, it's like a Sora thing.

[D]

Wow.

[E]

Which is wild because I just saw something. Not, like, with the carnival, but. And I had to watch it a few times because I was not sure, but it looks like a tower, and there's different levels, and there's a ton of people on. On these towers or these floors, and you just see it collapsing. But, yeah, then it's. Then you learn that it's AI and it's like, how is this even allowed to be, like, on your phone? This is crazy.

[B]

I don't know. Well, speaking of things that are very, very confusing, our TikTok theory continues. Okay, so months ago, we talked about the fact that my TikToks get no views. There's nothing I can do to get views on TikTok. I could try a trend. I'll get no fucking views. But if somebody takes a video of me from far away looking horrible on a roller coaster or somebody takes a picture of me, whatever, for some reason, they get views. This happened recently. I got a text from my friend, and they were just like, I don't know if you know this, but you're viral right now on TikTok. And my whole. My ass fell out. Like, all my nerves, they all broke. And I was like, what? Because I just was so scared. She's like, oh, no, it's a good thing I didn't look into it, because I was like, okay, I don't want to know whatever's happening over on that app. I don't want to know about it. And then I am here. We're planning the podcast. And Spencer goes, you know, you're like a TikTok right now. And I was like, spencer, my butt's about to open again. And he goes, no, no, it's a good thing. And I was like, okay, explain it to me.

[F]

So I know we really aren't on TikTok. We have no idea.

[B]

It hasn't made its way over to Instagram. That's where I am. So. Hasn't made his way over there. We're just doing Christmas tree Little Debbie recipes right now. So this hasn't gotten to us yet. So, Spencer, breakdown. What is happening to me on TikTok.

[C]

Yeah. So basically, it's just a video. I think I have the original video if you want to watch it. But it's you and Jeffrey, Okay. During the, like, home palette thing, and he's, like, organizing colors, and you're just like, yes. Yeah. Like, I forget what the audio is, but you're like, oh, my God. Yes. Oh, my God. Brilliant. So it's just that audit. And so. And it's all about, like. And so the trend is all about flow state. So it's like. Because everyone's like, oh, he was in the flow state. He was like. He was like, you don't even think about it. And so now people are using this audio for all these.

[F]

For, like, Spencer, you're supposed to tell me when something's trending like this so then I can make one too.

[E]

Get it together, Spencer.

[B]

I do my. Oh, you're right.

[F]

Like his husband doing it.

[B]

Oh, I see.

[F]

Oh, wait. Okay, what am I.

[C]

Do you want to see the original or.

[B]

Yeah, let me see what the original is.

[C]

So that's the original video. It's just you going, whoa, whoa, whoa. But now the trend is, like, when I send more than two emails without checking my phone, I'm reaching a flow state, and it's like.

[B]

Whoa, whoa.

[C]

So it's just like, people in flow state.

[B]

Okay, all right.

[C]

When I'm Eating wings and fries.

[F]

Tik Tok is so stupid.

[B]

Awful. Hey, I'm trending. Whoa, Whoa.

[C]

So that's. That's.

[B]

That's it.

[F]

I don't even think I can participate. Like, I'm proud of you.

[B]

Wait. When my pig gets a drink. Wait, hold on.

[C]

When my pig gets a drink. Between every bite and genuinely reaches a flo stick.

[B]

Whoa. Whoa.

[E]

Oh, my gosh.

[D]

So you introduce a guinea pig in.

[F]

The mix and you copy. Okay, that's the first one that I'm like, all right.

[B]

That's cute. Yeah. Wow.

[F]

We need to delete these apps.

[E]

No.

[B]

Babes were viral.

[F]

It's just, like, it's too much. Okay, you guys, it's stupid.

[B]

You know what's more the most embarrassing is if I did a flow state thing and it got no views.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

With my own voice. You know what I mean? We're not doing it. We're not trying that. Okay, now let's get into a couple quick conspiracy updates, guys. We got so many emails. By the way, if you want to send us an email with a conspiracy Mandela fact anything, it's Shane Dawson podcast stuffmail.com. okay? This. I have never laughed. I'm already laughing. Okay? So, okay. Julissa sent this in. This is a screenshot of a tweet. This is a Doordash update. Just found out that the best Greek restaurant I've ever eaten at that I found on Doordash last year and ordered from multiple times, is actually just the cafeteria of a hospital. Wow.

[C]

Here, there's a picture of the food, too.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

She said, I'm actually devastated right now. This hospital. How is this hospital food? It looks so good.

[E]

It does look good.

[C]

Food's really good.

[B]

That is so funny.

[E]

Like.

[B]

Hospital food. Oh, my God. Postmates and Doordash have been with me so much lately, like, especially on Thanksgiving. So I didn't eat Thanksgiving food because, like, we didn't cook or anything. And, like, I was starving at night, and I was like, oh, fuck, there's nothing open. It's Thanksgiving. The only things open are, like, you know, the big chain, the Denny's and whatever. And so. But when I go on Postmates, all their ghost kitchens are, like, taking over. It's like, fresh and tasties or, like, Billy's, you know, pig roast. And I was like, this is all fucking Denny's. This is all fucking Denny's.

[D]

Like, fuck, yeah, that's actually. That would be a great name for a ghost kitchen. And capitalize off of this is just call it hospital food because Imagine how easy it would be for somebody. Dude, I was blown away by hospital food. Like, who would ever thought that?

[B]

Oh, like a trendy bar.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, this one. This one's also very funny. Okay, so this is a discount store update. This is from Kelly. Hey, guys. Love, love, love your videos. I'm a senior in college and I've been watching since I was eight. Oh, wait, what? I guess that is possible. Wow, that's crazy. Thank you. Anyway, anyways, here's some tea. I attached a photo of what the fuck I found at the discount store, and then look at this. She found at the discount store a bark box.

[C]

Just fully other product.

[B]

If you don't know what that is, that's a subscription service where you pay to get a monthly box of, like, dog stuff. And, like, somebody fucking left it. It literally has the.

[C]

How did they accept this back?

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

With somebody's shipping address.

[C]

It has a literal address on it.

[B]

It. What?

[D]

That's actually a genius marketing ploy by Barkbox. What if they're placing these in stores and people buy them and they're like, how do I get another one?

[B]

Wait, yeah, because they're pretty expensive. Dude.

[D]

Shout out to Barkbox. Very smart.

[B]

Okay, this is another mini update. We got so many emails about this. So this went viral. It's about Chuck E. Cheese, and it's two brothers who claim that they're the reason that our conspiracy struck started. So here's the video. Okay. What was this? Is that a trend? I don't know. Okay, no, I'm gonna debunk this. Unless they specifically work at the location we were at. But also, if that is true, then how come it's happening at every.

[C]

It doesn't make any sense.

[D]

Yeah, the Chuck E. Cheese conspiracy has been around for, I would say, at this point, like, 30 years.

[B]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, we. We talked about it when we were kids.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Damn.

[E]

So, yeah.

[B]

Okay, this one is very specific. Okay. This is something that Rylan actually got passionate about when I brought this up.

[F]

Me.

[B]

Just check out this.

[D]

Has anybody else noticed that Reese's peanut butter cups taste nasty now?

[F]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I was dipping into my cake. He looks so sad about it and figured I'd go for one.

[D]

And it tasted like straight chemicals. And I swear they didn't used to taste like that.

[E]

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[D]

Now, I understand they are indeed chock full of chemicals, so it makes sense, but I can swear they didn't used to taste that nasty.

[B]

Okay, I have had this thought this year, specifically.

[F]

Well, yeah, because our kids went trick or treating and we were.

[B]

Yes, because last year, I think it was last year we did the Mandela effect effect. Or it was some theory about rhesus. And it was like, oh, is the pumpkin just the same as the bat? Oh, yeah, whatever. And I remember eating those on the podcast and being like, oh, these are so good. And then we went trick or treating last year and I remember eating all of our kids Reese's and being like, oh, so happy. They can't eat these. And we get them this year, went trick or treating, snuck our little paws in there, took a bite of that Reese's, and I was like, ugh, this tastes disgusting. I'm like, well, maybe it's expired. I'd get a different one. I'm like, maybe that's expired. I get the white chocolate one. What's going on? Reese's is my favorite candy of all time. What the hell is going on? So I brought some.

[F]

Oh, you did? I see. Here's the thing. Either we got a bad batch or somebody has been holding on to these in their house forever. Then we trick or treated and they were like, let's get rid of them. Or I had like Covid or something and my taste buds weren't working.

[E]

The last time I did erases it did it almost like broke up, like, powdery. It sounded like crumbly almost, but it was. It tastes really dry.

[D]

I know that we are on this nutritional plan, but I think it would be beneficial because you are like the biggest Reese's Pieces fan.

[E]

I do love.

[D]

You should just take like the smallest. Just a taster.

[B]

Do. Do you guys want.

[F]

Throw it over, babes?

[D]

Throw me the damn Reese's.

[B]

I mean, you guys gotta. You guys are.

[E]

Oh, fine. You know what? I have to admit something.

[F]

What?

[B]

No, it's okay.

[C]

We're not pressuring you guys.

[E]

Jerry doesn't know this.

[F]

He does it. I'll let him sit so we get his reaction.

[E]

He doesn't know I'm scared and I'm nervous.

[B]

Okay, wait.

[F]

What did.

[E]

You know he's never gonna.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

You're really building this up. If you did what I think you did.

[E]

I was hanging out with my sister, a donut. And I had half of an Oreo. I know, I know.

[D]

See, you think I would be mad, and I am. But I'm only mad cause you didn't offer me half of an Oreo. And I look at these as major wins because at one point in our.

[E]

Life, I do the whole box.

[D]

We would buy a box of Oreos and treat one roll like one pack.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

And the fact that you limited yourself to half of an Oreo. I'm very proud of you. Just never do it again.

[B]

Well, I know where she's without me.

[E]

Well, I know where she's hiding them.

[D]

No, no, no, no. We must dispose of them immediately. Not orally.

[B]

Okay, orally. Do you both want one or are you splitting? No, no, no.

[F]

Are Spencer and I getting one of those or what?

[C]

Jeez, these are fucked up little Reese's.

[B]

Wow, they're like gray.

[C]

Why are they like. They're so.

[B]

They're Reese's pumpkins.

[E]

Oh, my gosh, it smells good.

[C]

Oh, they are gray. Ew.

[F]

Ew. It looks.

[E]

It just looks dry.

[F]

Like a little doody bottle right off the bat.

[B]

Okay, this is very specific, but they taste like plant protein.

[F]

What?

[B]

You know what I mean.

[E]

The texture. Yeah, that's a good way to go.

[B]

Like the protein powder. That's like plants.

[D]

It does taste like a protein shake or something like that.

[B]

That.

[D]

Cuz like when I drink my protein shakes, sometimes there's clumps and you chew it and this is what it is.

[B]

What's going on? I feel like, listen, this is just a theory. Reese's. I love you so much, I literally would die.

[F]

Do we.

[B]

I love Reese's.

[F]

I mean, but.

[B]

But recently, everyone I've tried has been bad.

[F]

You can't continue to love bad habits.

[E]

It's bad.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

I feel like a powder stuck in my teeth.

[D]

I need to try another one.

[B]

Okay, now we're going to get into sound cruise ship conspiracies, guys. Oh, my God. First of all, I've never been on a cruise. Rylan has tried to get me on a cruise so many times. I get really seasick. So I'm terrified of doing that. But I love watching cruise videos. My favorite vloggers or adventures love watching them on cruises. But when I saw this email, I was like, I need to talk about this. And there's a lot of rabbit holes involved. Okay, so the email sent. So the subject of the email was cruise line food conspiracy. So this is from Jeremy. Hey, Shane and crew. My wife and I are a huge fan of the show and we have a conspiracy for the podcast not to make it gross. So I'll use some innuendos. Not sure where to start, but it involves bathroom usage and fiber passage. So the conspiracy here is that cruise lines are putting laxatives or other softening methods in their food to make your poison poop soft and easier for the ship plumbing. Reddit users said that they don't wouldn't do that for legal reasons. Reason being is because laxatives cause nausea, and that's technically poisoning and drugging people without their consent. But they could be getting away with it because of the seasickness excuse, which would also be a valid reason for nausea. So the laxatives could go unnoticed. Just saying. Things were very solid before we got on the boat. Boat eating habits have also stabilized. I feel like it's worth a conspiracy. Okay, so I went down this rabbit.

[F]

Hole, and there are so not cruisers aboard.

[D]

You softly went down the rabbit hole.

[B]

This. Okay, I'm not saying any cruise ship does this. This is just a theory. Like, don't come for me carnival or whatever. The. I think this is illegal and not happening. But it did, like, get me thinking. I'm like, that's kind of genius. Like, micro doses of, like, laxatives. Because that many people pooping on a cruise, I mean, we've seen poop crews. A nightmare that turned into a show, literally, where now people are pooping in bags. Which, by the way, people were being so, like, against pooping in a bag. I was like, if I gotta poop, I'll poop in anything. I'll poop it in. Stanley.

[C]

I've pooped in bags.

[F]

Pooping in a bag seems like a better alternative than what they were doing.

[B]

Some of them were pooping off the side of the cruise.

[F]

That seems like a good idea.

[B]

Other things that supposedly cruises do, watering down their alcohol so that they don't let you bring any alcohol on board.

[F]

Alcohol. They do all inclusive packages.

[B]

And it's like, right? There's also been a lot of theories that they're just dumping everybody's poop into the ocean.

[D]

No, that's not a theory.

[B]

That's true.

[F]

That's law.

[D]

But they can only do it after they reach 12 miles out of land.

[E]

They can't do.

[D]

Once they get to 12 miles away from land, they could dump it however they want because they have filtration on the, on the boat for before they reach that level. But once they're 12 miles out, they're just dumping. I think it's like 150 tons or something like that.

[F]

That's not ruining the ocean.

[C]

It is.

[B]

Okay, well you guys have been on cruises, have you Noticed your soft. The softness.

[D]

So my only theory here, and this is I'm not a scientist, despite what people believe, you're confident enough. What if the gravitational pull on land is a little greater than on water? And because of the less gravitational pull going on within your body, it doesn't really allow your poop to form as salt baldly as it would.

[B]

That could be it.

[D]

Because have you ever, have you ever seen a fish not take a liquidy poop? They should be logs.

[C]

That's true. Fish don't poop logs.

[E]

Or another theory could be that you're not used to eating all that food they put out, so now you know you're not used to eating this. So now you're eating a buffet of food with the free frozen yogurt alcohol, you know what I mean? So that's gonna do something in your body.

[D]

And aside from that, I think the cruise that we went on, there's 3,000 people. You're out for four or five days and they got to keep all of that food somehow not going bad for that amount of time. There has to be a massive amount of preservatives in it.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So whatever they're putting in the food is just not natural for your body to digest.

[B]

Possibly.

[C]

Have you ever seen the thing where airplanes, I think they freeze the shit. What in piss. And there have been stories of it them accidentally releasing it in the air because it's like a big ice cube and it's like killed people before, but.

[E]

It ain't no meteor.

[D]

It's a big old frozen chunk of shit.

[B]

What? That is my luck. No, that's Spencer's luck. Oh no.

[C]

Right after getting attacked by a dog.

[B]

Well, speaking of terrifying things happening on cruises, Sandy, you have a cruise themed true crime scene.

[F]

Did you guys plan that?

[B]

Well, yeah, I told her, I was like, oh, I think I want to talk about cruises. And I was like, oh, we should do a cruise because I haven't really heard any true crime cruise stories. And there has to be some.

[F]

Oh, there's gotta be overboard.

[E]

There's a ton. And so this one I'm gonna talk about took place in 2005. It's a couple. Their names are George and Jennifer Smith. They're in their, like mid-20s. You know, your typical beautiful couple.

[F]

On a scale of one to Chad, what's his look?

[E]

Looks very Chad.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[E]

Yeah, he, he was some, some might.

[D]

Even call him a Jared.

[E]

A Jared. There you go. He was like 6 4. She was beautiful, blonde hair. But they were also very social, they were outgoing. They made friends everywhere they went.

[F]

Couldn't be me.

[E]

And to the point where they made friends with a couple on board. And the couple said that while they were, you know, at a port, everywhere they would go there, they were just constantly taking photos of themselves. They just looked really happy. And so they were also kind of flashy, right? So he had a. Would wear a watch that was like, you know, maybe like 15 grand. And he was also very loud about how much money they had, like in their cabin, right? So one night, it was the night of July 4th, and they were in the casino, they were gambling. Jennifer was at the blackjack table and then George was at another table gambling. And he made fast friends with this guy named Josh. Now Josh is an American and they just hit it off, right? So while they were gambling, they also made friends with another three group of guys. One of them was named Gregory, his cousin Zach, and then their friend Rusty. So they all were just gambling, having a time, drinking. And so around 2:30 is when the casino closed. So they didn't want to stop, you know, having a good time. So they ended up going to the disco floor, right? So they wanted to dance, they wanted a drink and everybody was having a good time. Well, Josh says that maybe about 30 or 40 minutes later, he looked over and Jennifer was really drunk and to the point where he saw the casino supervisor put his arm around her and he felt like maybe they were just being really flirty, flirty. But he didn't know if she was flirting with him or she just was so unstable. He was helping her. But everybody kind of thought maybe they're flirting because then a few minutes after they saw George and Jennifer arguing and Jennifer kicked him and walked off. Like she was kind of stumbling, but she walked off. They didn't see her the rest of the night. So then about 3:30, the disco floor closed up. So George at this time was so intoxicated he couldn't even walk. And so the guys went ahead and helped him up to his cabin. Jennifer wasn't there, but they had said that they just assumed maybe she found this the casino supervisor and maybe she was having an affair. They didn't know. So about 7 o' clock in the morning, the next day, this guest, her name was Emily, she goes out to her balcony to take a photo of the sunrise. And little did she see a blood puddle down below. It was actually the deck canopy, right. And the blood was kind of trailing off over the boat. And so then she alerted the staff and it didn't take long before they realized that it was George Smith's. Like he was missing. And they don't say that he died, they just said he was overboard. Right. That's like the terminology. And so they found Jennifer, the staff found Jennifer at the spa because she had an appointment that she kept. And then they investigated, you know, who was with George the night before. And then they gathered the four guys that they had seen in the security camera. So at that point, you had the cruise detectives and their police essentially just asking them questions. The guys said, you know what, we know now that he was really drunk. They helped him to his cabin, they left. And then they had a port at the Turk at Turkey. I don't know if that's how you say it. They were at Turkey when they ported. And then the Turkey police took over. They started investigating. So the Turkish police went ahead and started investigating. Josh told them, you got to look into the casino supervisor because Jennifer was with him last and something is going on. So I didn't know this about ships, but they're actually able to like do a timestamp of when you enter your room. So they were able to see that the casino supervisor actually had gone to his girlfriend's cabin. And so she confirmed the alibi because she had said that she had woken up when he came in. So then they weren't able to prove anything. So essentially nothing really happened. They actually handed it off to the FBI. So the FBI was investigating what was going on and had talked to Jennifer and here's her storyline of what happened that night. So she actually said she doesn't remember anything from that night night. And the cruise staff said that they had seen her wandering around and it almost looked like she wasn't able to walk. So they helped her get onto her floor, which is the ninth floor. She walked out of the elevator and she made a right. But later we find out that her room was actually on the left hand side. So what happens is she kind of goes into the corner of the hall and passes out there. She says when she wakes up in the morning, she goes to the room, George wasn't there. But she didn't. She didn't, you know, think it was odd she wasn't Worried because she thought, you know what? He must have partied really hard. And maybe he just stayed in, like, a friend's cabin. And so she essentially just got ready and then made her appointment to the spa. Wasn't worried until the staff, you know, found her and let her know that he was missing. So then the FBI thought, okay, well, maybe there was no way she was able to kill him or to throw him overboard because she was just so intoxicated. So then they go and they talk to the guys. And another thing is that a neighbor of George's said that he heard people arguing in the balcony that night, and then all of a sudden, he heard people saying, or a man saying to the guys, good night. Good night. So that's what happened. So they ended up settling for 1.3 million, and they also gave the family the investigation, like, folders on. On this case. But the crazy part is that one of the guys, Gregory, he was the only one that talked when they were investigating them. And he was saying how, you know, there was no way George killed himself, and he was just talking more to the police. Right. Well, at that time, Gregory was in jail for. He was selling, like, trafficking drugs. He got out, and he was killed in his driveway. These three men were Russian Americans. And so people think that the Russian mafia had something to do with it. And because he was talking about this murder, that that's why they went ahead and put a hit on him.

[C]

Whoa. Here's my crazy.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

These four guys saw this guy flaunting everything that he had.

[E]

Yes.

[D]

They know the cruise ship game. This might not be their first time doing it. They put something in his drink, took him back to his hotel, and threw him overboard. And that's it.

[E]

Because they said that when they found the room, when the staff came in, took photos, the door was shut, which, in a cruise ship, the door shuts really fast on its own anyways. But the curtains were closed, so there was no way that George committed suicide. How would he do that and have the curtains closed? There's no way.

[F]

Wow. And they're confident that it was not the wife after all of these years.

[E]

So they're confident that it's not the wife. Even though the family starting to say, like, okay, it's not the way. If they actually believe, like Jared said, that they were probably roofied and that this was kind of like a robbery gone wrong. But what ended up happening now, and I believe it was in 2015, they actually ended up having to close it because they just didn't have enough evidence. On what was going on, but their family just posted like, a hundred thousand dollar reward for anybody that has any, you know, information.

[C]

Wow.

[E]

Yeah. So their family, they're still gung ho and trying to find whoever did this or any information.

[F]

And so the cameras don't show exactly who walked in.

[E]

Well, it was 20. It was 2005. So they didn't have cameras the way they have them now. Yeah, now I believe that they even have, like, almost like a sensor of, like, if somebody were to go overboard.

[F]

Right.

[E]

Yeah, but I mean, there's so many stories out there if you look up that where people just go missing and there's just no way to prove it.

[B]

Wow. Well, speaking of terrifying. Yeah, I don't. Somebody got a segue for that.

[C]

It's time for a recap.

[E]

Light, camera, action.

[B]

Rylan's recap is about to happen.

[F]

Rylan's recap on today's episode of the Shane Dawson Podcast. Spencer is back.

[B]

Back.

[F]

And has survived the elder disease of shingles.

[C]

Yay.

[F]

How the old are you, Spencer?

[B]

Tell us for real, Sally, how old are you?

[C]

I don't think we ever.

[F]

None of your business. But I've never had shingles.

[C]

You're not even a human. You probably have some disgusting animal disease.

[B]

Whoa. Nope.

[E]

All clear.

[F]

Just went to the vet yesterday.

[B]

Wait, it looks like there's another co host who entered the. Oh, my God.

[C]

He lost the shoe. He lost his shoe.

[B]

Oh, no.

[F]

Steve Hartley, are you here?

[D]

Yes, I'm right here.

[C]

So I forgot his voice.

[D]

Thank you for finally announcing it. I was only over here for five minutes before you actually said anything about me, which I appreciate. How's that going, Spencer? Just a second.

[B]

Was that Steve?

[D]

I'm talking to Spencer. Spencer, I'm really happy to hear you recover from shingles.

[C]

Thank you so much.

[D]

I'll see you at the bingo hall this week.

[C]

Okay, that's enough out of you. Trend it or end it.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

Hey, Sally, can I take this? Oh, sure, Ryan. Oh, we played a hot game of trend it or end it, and the cast has agreed the thing we're leaving in 2025 the most is Dubai chocolate.

[C]

I don't think we agreed. Right.

[B]

No, Sandy disagreed.

[E]

Oh, that's okay. Dubai chocolate for me. I'll take it.

[D]

I call it don't buy chocolate.

[F]

Can't even eat it on your keto diet.

[C]

I don't think you can eat it either. I think you're an animal and can't have chocolate.

[B]

Shut the fuck up, Spitzer.

[C]

Sorry.

[B]

Reese's are bad now in Horrible news.

[F]

We have discovered after eating our own children's Halloween candy, that Reese's have gone down the shitter.

[B]

Seriously.

[F]

And no, it's not only on cruises that they taste bad. They taste bad everywhere, but come out soft all places.

[B]

I hope they fix it by Easter, because if they give me that big old bunny and it tastes gross, I would be so sad.

[F]

No. We're gonna have to seek out other brands.

[B]

No.

[F]

And allegedly, chocolates getting expensive. So all these brands are switching to fake chocolate.

[C]

Allegedly.

[B]

I think Steve is live at the chocolate factory.

[D]

Hey, everybody. I'm here at Hershey's Chocolate, and I have been doing my own little investigation and come to find out in the back room, I saw a couple 3D printers. Not gonna say what it's about, but I don't want any piece of it.

[B]

Any pieces of it.

[D]

Good chain, good pun. Back to you, Sally.

[F]

Oh, thanks.

[B]

Oh. Spencer got attacked by a dog.

[F]

Oh, is it real or is it big? Spencer gets attacked by a dog. To end it.

[C]

To end it. Stop attacking me.

[E]

Oh, Shane. Shane went viral on TikTok.

[F]

Oh. In other news, our own Shane has gone viral on TikTok. Some would say it's a fun trending sound. Others would say it's really gotta go. I mean, if this is, like, what.

[B]

We'Re doing, this is the last straw.

[C]

Everything else, you're fine.

[B]

What's a nice trend about me?

[F]

Well, no, I'm just saying, although it's nice and I appreciate the acknowledgement of my husband. Thank you. I'm starting to think, like, this is the end. I'm. I'm more afraid of what TikTok is doing to our brains than what AI is doing for humanity.

[C]

This is what set it all off.

[F]

Delete the app.

[D]

Despite what Zack and Cody might have you believing, it's not always a sleet life on deck.

[C]

Oh, that was good, Steve. That was good.

[D]

Off to you.

[B]

Wait, Chris. Get better.

[F]

Chris. We miss you and we hope that you're already better. Definitely better than the type of stairs.

[D]

Just a second. I'm doing a heart.

[F]

So sweet, Steve. We are wishing you the best, Chris, and we miss you very much. Well, that's gonna do it for us here today on the Shane Dawson podcast.

[B]

Hope you enjoyed. This is the last episode of the year. Oh, no. Wow, that's sad.

[F]

What was your favorite thing that happened this year?

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

On the podcast or in general?

[F]

In general.

[B]

Okay, I have a cheesy one.

[F]

What?

[B]

Okay, so recently, like, when I leave the room, the boys will say, I love You, Dad.

[F]

That's cute.

[B]

And that's recent.

[F]

Even today when we were leaving to film the podcast, I said, bye, and he goes. And Jack goes, bye, Dada.

[C]

That's really cute.

[D]

My favorite part was going to New York with you for the first time and having so much fun and being able to visit some family and just enjoying ourselves.

[B]

Check out the vlogs.

[C]

But.

[D]

But it was very fun.

[E]

Mine. Well, definitely has to be being able to leave my job to be able to do this and experience all these crazy, cool adventures. So thank you. I had a big moment.

[C]

I'm revising mine. I went to Garth Brooks bar.

[F]

Now the good memories are hitting all flooding back. All right, you guys, well, well, hope you enjoyed this episode of the Shane Dawson Podcast and hope you had a great year with us. We had a fantastic time with all of you. Make sure you shop your Shane Dawson merch@shane dawsonmerch.com and we'll be right back here in two weeks on the Shane Dawson Podcast. Thank you for watching today's episode and we'll see you next time. Good night.

[B]

Wow. Thank you guys for the amazing year. This has been one of the best years ever. I'm so glad. Grateful for this podcast, for. Oh, my gosh, that's even more sad that Chris isn't here. I'm just so grateful for everything, for all of this, for all of you guys. And, yeah, I can't wait for next year. And we're going to be right back here bringing the same heat. Is that what people say? Y. We'll see you guys next time. Bye. Oh, Sam.