The Reptilian Conspiracy Theory

Summary

The Shane Dawson Podcast

Episode: The Reptilian Conspiracy Theory

Release Date: April 12, 2026
Host: Shane Dawson
Co-hosts: Ryland, Sandy, Jared, Spencer

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Shane Dawson and his panel of friends dive deep into a series of conspiracy theories—ranging from lighthearted observations to darker, more unnerving rabbit holes. The main focus centers around the Reptilian Conspiracy Theory, with detours into topics like celebrity clones, chemtrails, data privacy, food industry marketing ploys, and unsettling tales from everyday life. The group maintains a conversational and humorous tone even as they touch on serious, sometimes disturbing subjects.

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Key Discussion Points

Opening Banter and Podcast Format

[02:03]

• The episode opens with light jokes about the participants’ health and allergies, segues into the format (“conspiracy-only” episode), and reflections on posting real-time content.
• Shane notes his excitement and anxiety about discussing controversial topics, especially ones that might get them demonetized.

The Real-World Impact of Data Collection

[03:29–08:33]

• Shane recounts his original theory (from a 2017–2018 video) that Pokémon Go was secretly collecting user data.

  “143 million people thought they were just catching Pokémon for eight years. They were actually training one of the biggest AI maps ever with over 30 billion images.”
  —Shane [04:31]

• Discussion on how popular apps often function more as data harvesters than their stated purpose.
• The group relates Pokémon Go’s data practices to the rise of delivery robots and the value of user-generated mapping.

Training AI with Human Inputs

[08:33–09:40]

• Analysis of CAPTCHA tests as both security features and massive, unpaid AI training systems.

  “We’ve been training AI for years. We just didn’t know it.”
  —Shane [08:35]

• The hosts muse on the contradiction of AI already surpassing most human verification tests, implying continued data mining.

Celebrity Clones and the Jamie Foxx Story

[11:21–15:29]

• Shane introduces the “celebrity clones” theory, referencing Jamie Foxx’s hospital experience:

  “When they said I was a clone, that made me flip in the hospital. That’s it. These motherfuckers are trying to clone me.”
  —Jamie Foxx (audio clip, [12:17])

• The group discusses the psychological implications for celebrities and how these rumors spark larger conspiracy narratives.

Reptilian Conspiracy Theory

[16:07–19:49]

• Shane pivots to the core episode theme: reptilian shapeshifters.
• Celebrity anecdotes are recounted (Robbie Williams, Britney Spears, Billy Corgan) about people’s faces turning reptilian during intimate moments.

  “Her face turned into what I could only describe as a reptilian. My face went, oh my God. She looks at me and she says, I’m not a reptilian.”
  —Robbie Williams [17:17]

• Discussion turns to possible motives: energy harvesting, vulnerability during intimacy, or ritualistic initiation.

Chemtrails, Weather Modification, and Allergies

[21:01–28:39]

• Shane issues a disclaimer, detailing the official scientific stance on chemtrails versus contrails before exploring social media-fueled chemtrail paranoia.
• The group goes deep on geoengineering and cloud-seeding, noting its real use in weather modification in places like China and the US.

  “China spends $300 million a year on weather modification research… spray silver in clouds, it actually causes the rain to dissipate.”
  —Jared [26:34]

• Discussion touches on misinformation, the secrecy around these programs, and the resulting public health fears.

Big Tobacco & The Return of Cigarettes

[28:57–34:17]

• Observations that Gen Z is making cigarettes fashionable again through social media and celebrity endorsement.

  “The hive reptilian mind is like, well, now if I do it, I’m some way like Kylie Jenner now.”
  —Jared [32:08]

• The group explains the economic motives for Big Tobacco and how aggressive marketing and lobbying often influence public health trends.

Food Industry Manipulation

[34:42–45:03]

• Viral social media exposes unhealthy changes and deceptive marketing (e.g., the “rubber” Hershey’s/Resse’s, protein branding).

  “This is just the next stupid brainwashing trend… we’re just eating a f*cking candy bar. But because it’s high protein… I fall for it all the time.”
  —Shane [44:06]

• The discussion expands to the “addictiveness” of processed snacks and misleading “healthy” labeling.
• The hosts critique the cyclical nature of diet culture buzzwords—“low carb,” “high protein,” etc.

iPhone Conspiracy: Voice Data Collection

[48:51–51:19]

• Listener-submitted theory: iPhone keyboards are getting intentionally worse to encourage users to use voice-to-text, thus harvesting more audio data.
• Group humorously discusses how their own texting habits have changed and speculates on larger aims of tech companies.

Existential Fears & Safety

[58:22–60:49]

• The hosts share personal fears—sharks, avalanches, being buried alive, general public safety—which segues into a rabbit hole segment.
• Mentions of the “drool method” to determine direction if buried in an avalanche, and the increasing prevalence of public violence/social anxiety.

Mini Rabbit Holes

[52:25–63:58]

• The Bodies Exhibit in Vegas: A mother suspects her son’s body is on display after an alleged murder/cover-up—serious questions about body sourcing for science museums.
• Children’s book author Kouri Richins, who wrote about grief after her husband’s death, is found guilty of poisoning him.
• Household items you should replace more often than you think (e.g., slippers every 3 months, toothbrush every 3 months, pillows every year—Jared admits to keeping his for years).

Product White Labeling: The Costco/Celsius Conspiracy

[67:03–69:14]

• Theory that Costco’s new Kirkland Signature energy drink is basically rebranded Celsius, leading to huge profit losses for the original brand.

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Notable & Memorable Moments

• Jamie Foxx’s “clone” paranoia: [12:16–13:07]
  “Am I all right or am I all white?…You trying to get the white motherfucking Jamie Foxx.” —Jamie Foxx
• Robbie Williams’ reptilian face transformation story: [17:17]
  “…her face turned into what I could only describe as a reptilian.”
• Celebratories seeing “lizard people” during sexual encounters: [18:13–18:50]
  Similar stories from Robbie Williams, Britney Spears, and Billy Corgan about partners’ faces morphing into reptiles.
• On addictive chips: [36:47–37:44]
  “Chips are engineered for addiction…triggers dopamine release in your brain’s reward center. Even the sound, the satisfying crunch…” —Shane
• On deceptive food marketing: [44:06]
  “This is just the next stupid brainwashing trend…when actually, we’re just eating a fucking candy bar.”
• Avalanche drool trick: [57:35]
  “The trick is to spit and see which way the saliva goes. Then you know which way is down.” —Group discussion

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |----------------------------------------- |----------------| | Pokémon Go & Data Collection | 03:29–08:33 | | AI/Training via CAPTCHA | 08:33–09:40 | | Jamie Foxx & Celebrity Clone Theories | 11:21–15:29 | | Reptilian Encounters (Celebrity Stories)| 16:07–19:49 | | Chemtrails & Weather Modification | 21:01–28:39 | | Cigarette Comeback, Tobacco Industry | 28:57–34:17 | | Food Manipulation & Protein Branding | 34:42–45:03 | | iPhone Keyboard/Voice Data Theory | 48:51–51:19 | | Personal Fears, Avalanche, Violence | 58:22–60:49 | | Bodies Exhibit & Ethics | 61:09–63:58 | | Costco/Celsius Energy Drink Conspiracy | 67:03–69:14 |

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Tone & Takeaways

• The entire conversation maintains a casual, comedic, and self-aware vibe, even when discussing chilling or bizarre subjects.
• Disclaimers are frequently issued (“just a theory!”) to clarify that discussion isn’t meant to spread misinformation or panic.
• The group is deeply aware of internet culture, TikTok trends, and the blurring line between marketing, manipulation, and reality.
• There’s a strong undercurrent of media critique and skepticism about both corporate and government motives.

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Closing Thoughts

Shane and his friends conclude by reflecting on the nature of distraction in modern life and the importance of questioning narratives—whether from corporations, tech companies, or viral online stories. The episode is a dense, frequently funny, occasionally unsettling overview of the viral conspiracies and anxieties circulating in 2026.

Final words:
“Keep a lookout for distractions. They’re everywhere.” —Shane [69:58]

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Transcript

[A]

K Pop Demon Hunters, Saja Boy's breakfast

[B]

meal and Hunt Trick's meal have just dropped at McDonald's.

[A]

They're calling this a battle for the fans.

[C]

What do you say to that, Rumi? It's not a battle. So glad the Saja Boys could take breakfast and give our meal the rest of the day. It is an honor to share.

[A]

No, it's our honor.

[C]

It is our larger honor. No, really, stop. You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side. Ba da ba ba ba. And participate in McDonald's while supplies last. This is an interview with Robbie Williams, and he's talking about his experience with what he thought could have been a reptile person. Take it. Make of that what you will.

[D]

That's what happened.

[C]

Crazy, right?

[E]

That's crazy.

[A]

One take one.

[C]

Marshall Shane's camera speeds one, take one marker.

[A]

Rhino speeds one take one mark.

[C]

My camera speeds won't take one marker. Sandy and Jared's camera speed's gonna take one marker. Oh, God. I feel kinda not sick, but it's like allergies. But I never get allergies. But it's like this year specifically. It's crazy.

[A]

Oh, was that performative?

[E]

You freaked. Rylan was so worried.

[C]

I literally said to you. I was like, oh, I'm getting sick. But then I never got a store throat.

[A]

Our house either has mold or we're dying of new causes.

[C]

But before we get into that, because let me just say.

[A]

Oh, good morning.

[C]

This is the most controversial conspiracy I think maybe ever. And we. I have not talked about it specifically in our podcast because I'm afraid of getting demonetized. But I think if we give enough disclaimers, it should be okay.

[A]

This might be the first one I've ever gotten invested in to a point where I've done, like, hours of research on this in the past day.

[E]

That's really saying something. Cause you never care about the mouth. Wow.

[B]

We're all very impressed.

[C]

But before we get to that, hey, guys, welcome back to the podcast. Listen, I'm going to be totally honest. The last episode where we kind of tried this whole new thing, I'm posting it tomorrow, like, in real time. It's not out yet, so we don't know if you guys liked it or not.

[E]

We really hope. We really hope you liked it.

[C]

So if you hated it and you do not want us to do this again next time, we won't. But we're doing it again today. So I'm so sorry, but can I just say, like, I loved it. I had so much fun and watching the episode back and, like, it felt like something I've been missing for a long time, which is talking about conspiracies and having conversations that get deeper and more, you know, real, and talking about stuff that I'm, like, nervous to talk about. Like, it felt exciting to me. So I hope you guys liked it. And. Yeah, let's see if we can try it again.

[E]

Capture that magic again.

[C]

Capture that magic. How are you guys doing? Are you sick? Do you have allergies?

[D]

My allergies have been bad. And ironically, I had that nasal surgery, so they shouldn't be bad at all. But I think today is the first time I've noticed. I don't know if you guys get it, but it's like this little tickle around right here in your nose. It feels like this emptiness when you breathe in. I started feeling that earlier. So I might be sick. I could go, I might have something.

[C]

It's nice seeing you guys.

[A]

I think you're sick.

[C]

Is everyone here just sick? Is that what's happening?

[B]

I love how Rylan's, like, joking, but

[C]

serious, you know, it's so brutal because I've always had really bad allergies, like, since I was a kid till now. But now they're so bad that I carry around, like, flon eye drops, like, clin, like, several things just for all the cuz I'm in pain and itchy all the time 24 7. I will say I've never had allergies. I don't think same ever. And I. There's a theory. And that theory now I'm noticing is happening a lot. And I'm like, does this have to do with that? But before we get into that, I need to say this because once again, I don't enjoy saying I was right, but fucking Pokemon Go, I called that shit in 2017, 2018, I don't know. I made a video and it was supposed to be kind of funny. And it was about how Pokemon Go is actually just collecting all of our data and watching what we're doing and all these things. And people were just like, oh, that's so funny. And I was like, I know, right? Cut to. Now it has been revealed 143 million people thought they were just catching Pokemon for eight years. They were actually training one of the biggest AI maps ever with over 30 billion images. The company Niantic just revealed that the photos and AR scans collected through Pokemon Go have created the largest real world visual database ever. So people weren't just walking around and playing it, you know, on their phones, they were actually scanning landmarks, storefronts, parks, sidewalks, from every single angle, at every time of day, in every weather condition ever.

[E]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I didn't think about that.

[C]

And it documented the physical world at a scale that no mapping company has ever been able to do with typical, like, vehicles with a camera on them. Why was all of this data being collected by all of us, you know, happy Pokemon Go players? Well, all of that data was being collected to train a new fleet of Cocos.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

The robot delivery Spencer's biggest pet.

[E]

They literally are my biggest enemy. I hate them so much. I hate those little fucking things.

[C]

I'm so unnecessarily mad about. This company. Got all these people out there getting their steps in playing Pokemon Go literally as free labor to train all of their new AI delivery bots. Like, that is so genius, but crazy.

[E]

Yes, Ryland.

[A]

Okay, thank you. I've been waiting.

[C]

No, you have not.

[D]

You had your hand up for, like, eight seconds.

[E]

I have a question.

[A]

Was AI around when Pokemon Go as popular, or did they collect all this data and sell to the highest bidder?

[C]

That is interesting.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

I mean, every app, and this is just a theory, but every app, like, remember, I don't know if we left it in the episode, but we talked about that at Bereal. It turned out to, you know, maybe be collecting data as well. Just a theory, but, like, you know, so you could just see what the other person sees and what you see at the same time.

[E]

Yeah, whatever they want.

[C]

Right. And then I think that app got sold to a company for all that data. I think every app, every game, even if they're starting it because they want to be a game, the real money is in the data. And I think they know that. Just a theory. So anytime you see a new popular app or game or social media or network or whatever, there is people behind the scenes being like, well, how are we going to make money from this? Because it's not ads. Oh. It's data.

[D]

I think what I always found interesting is back in the day when you would walk through a mall, there would always be a car and a little pad of paper where you could fill out your information, potentially. That car.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

But the thing is, you filling out that card made that card worth, like, $10 to people. Buying Lead generation.

[E]

Yeah.

[D]

So if they just got a couple thousand people to fill this out, it would easily pay for the car. But one, we don't know if anyone actually won. But all that was was data. Entry for them. And then they would then sell the data to all these companies that, you know, could use it. So it's been around for a while, but it's very genius, this Pokemon Go situation.

[B]

Well, and I don't know, I don't know if it's the same as before with like the card situation entering your information, but I know now, we were in Ventura a few weeks ago or maybe a month ago, and big group of people and we're like, well, this is weird. And wonder what, what they're doing. Because then they just started leaving altogether. And so what did we do? Well, we followed them because we were curious what are they doing? Right. Because they were on. Nobody was talking, it was silent, but everyone was on their phone. But it was a huge group of people. And we asked them, like, what are you guys doing? They're like, oh, we're playing Pokemon Go. But they were so focused and it's crazy how anybody would be curious and then just join it, you know, like not knowing. Like, yeah, they're collecting all this information.

[D]

One guy literally said, I've been waiting for six hours and it's just up the street at the post office. So like whatever Pokemon they were looking for was like right there. And they were there for six hours.

[C]

When I was really playing the game, I would do insane things. Like I'd end up in like alleys at like 3am and like there'd be someone else in an alley. And no part of me was like, I'm going to get jumped right now. I'm like, they're also playing Pokemon Go. And they were, thankfully. But I could have died. Like I ended up in the worst situations because of this. But look at all the delivery bots you help.

[E]

Yeah. Thank Godobots.

[C]

I will say this is also an interesting rabbit hole that me and Spencer were talking about. So we've been training AI for years. We just didn't know it. Literally everything you've posted online has now been put into the system of AI. Literally every single picture. Everything has taught AI more and more about humans. How we operate, how we think, how our brains work, what we're afraid of, what we enjoy, whatever captas. So you know those little captchas before you go into a website or sign in and it's like, make, you know, show us that you're not a robot. Show us you're human.

[D]

Oh, I hate them.

[A]

I always fail those tests.

[E]

Well, you fail them.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Well, it's not even about. So okay. You know, sometimes it'll be like, show us where the bus is, and it'll be a bunch of pictures. And I'm like, okay, wait, but that's. That's like, not technically a buzz, but it's kind of a bus.

[A]

That's what I mean. So that I have common sense and I don't click.

[C]

But it's not a wrong answer. They want to see you thinking and they want to see your mouse going around and being like, maybe, maybe not. That's. That's the point, right? And when you do that, it knows, oh, this is a human. Because an AI would just go, doo, doo, doo, doo. But there's a theory, actually. Is it confirmed now?

[E]

Yeah, it's a real thing. So basically, yeah, we've just been training. They've been using it to train AI for, like, years and years and years. And it's like, well, if you think about it, the AI is so strong now. Why are we still doing. An AI could easily pass that test. Like ChatGPT could easily do that test and pass it now. And the only reason we're still doing it, we're idiots. Well, the guy. So the guy who founded it. I'm trying to find him. I know, but the guy who found it, he found it in 2009. And even he was quoted saying, like, this has the potential to be like one of the biggest free, like, data harvesting, like, things in the world, like there. Because we're just seeing how humans interact with something over and over and over again for free labor.

[C]

But you said that you don't have to click exactly on the right bus. So how's Rylan failing these?

[E]

That is a different question.

[A]

I think literally 90% of the time, fail. And I'm like, I've looked at all of the squares. I fucking hate those things.

[E]

That's me with the little delivery robots.

[A]

I have never encountered something that drives Spencer more crazy than those robots.

[E]

I think, guys, this is just a psa. If you see those robots, kick it over, flip, beat it up. There was just a video the other day, like before this, of Chicago is having issues where the robots are driving through bus like stations because they don't see the glass. And so they're just videos of them just driving through glass. The glass shatters and the robot, like, stops. Like, oh, shit, what did I just do? And they're costing the city, like, thousands

[D]

of dollars because these, you know, people that are super distracted playing Pokemon Go, probably just walk right into glass. That's why it is. You guys gotta find people that aren't as distracted. That's probably why the meta glasses are so big right now. That's probably a better way of collecting all that information.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And they don't walk into glass.

[C]

Okay, so this next thing, when we talked about the celebrity clones, it got very scary. And I.

[D]

It's not like you said celebrity colognes.

[C]

We were talking about the new fragrances.

[D]

Beyonce's new Thing is Fire.

[C]

No, the clones. Right. So I started having nightmares about it. Like I was. There was something about that specific segment that really fucked me up. And then Instagram, knowing that it would fuck me up, sent me this in my algorithm. So you guys know Jamie Foxx. He was in the hospital for a while and it was kind of like, mysterious. Nobody knew it was happening. Everybody was really scared for him. So this is an interview where he talked about that experience and just take a look. I snuck my phone because I didn't know what the outside world was saying. And so I snuck my phone to see what people were saying. I've just been in this hospital and

[D]

I couldn't get my mind around it.

[E]

I had a stroke. I'm in fucking perfect shape.

[C]

The clone shit threw me.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

When they said I was a clone, that made me flip in the hospital. That's it. These motherfuckers are trying to clone me.

[E]

I didn't have a straw.

[D]

So I'm sitting in my.

[C]

I'm sitting in the hospital bed like these bitch ass. And then I saw me walk into my room. But I'm white. So I see the white, white me, but he had a Caesar too, just like you.

[A]

No.

[C]

All that. The white me. And I'm like. And I'm trying to get their attention. I said, what's up, Fox? I said, I know what's up. You trying to clone me, motherfucker. I saw the white clone. And I know why you trying to clone me. Don't make me white. Cause I'll sell better overseas and all this other kind of. I'm sitting in this motherfucker. You read your conspiracy thinking I'm a clone.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

And when the psychiatrist says, are you all right?

[C]

And I says, am I all right or am I all white? I saw what happened. I saw a motherfucker. You trying to get the white motherfucking Jamie Foxx.

[D]

And it ain't gonna happen.

[C]

So he just calmly goes, I think we're gonna lower your dosage. Okay.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

Let me just say this.

[A]

That's incredible.

[C]

First of all, love Jamie Foxx. But let me just say this. The fact that his mind jumped to that. When you're that big of a star, and you have that much, you know, big of teams and you have all these things, and you're jumping right to that. That's just very interesting to me. I don't know. That's really scary, actually. Right. Yeah. Because I would never jump to that.

[E]

Well, then people also think he was, like, poisoned or something. Like. Like. Like there was some suspicion about, like, if someone tried to get him. Like.

[C]

Right.

[E]

Like, there was. I just remember there being stuff like, how did he get in there? Like. Like he was saying, like, I was perfectly health. A stroke. It's like, I know that can happen, but.

[B]

And I remember reading, like, the headlines about that is because a lot of people were saying, like, they wouldn't give any information out.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't even know if at first they even said he had a stroke.

[E]

Like, it was like, Jamie Foxx is in the hospital.

[B]

Yeah. Like a medical condition. And so I think that's kind of what probably started all these, like, rumors or possibility of things happening. And it's scary.

[C]

There's this movie called the island from, like, 2008. I think it was a Michael Bay movie. Scarlett Johansson. And it's about all of these people living in this, like, really cool futuristic hotel. I love that, man. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. And they all think that, like, you know, they're all in this, like, hotel, basically living. And every week there's a raffle. And if they win the raffle, they make it to the island. They get out of the hotel, they get to go to the island, but the island is actually there. They are clones. They don't know it. And when they go to the island, it's because their owner, the person that created, needs an organ or something. Oh, yeah.

[E]

I've read a book like this, too.

[C]

Yeah. So it's like one of the characters Michael Clark Duncan played, he was like, actually the clone of a famous football player. He didn't know that. And he woke up in the middle of surgery and he saw that he was being worked on and they were taking his organs out. It was this whole thing. And the whole idea was the rich, powerful people have clones for their medical. You know, whenever they need something. I want to go to the island. You promise? I want to live.

[D]

I wanna die.

[C]

That me up. Because I'm like, okay. A lot of these things that we see in movies that we, you know, talk about that end up kind of coming true or hiding in plain sight. The fact that he. Jamie Foxx went right to that. Like, it's just Very well.

[A]

Especially if he ends up in the hospital being like, why am I in the hospital?

[C]

Can you imagine, like, be so scared in the hospital and then being like, are they cloning me? Like, I can't even. My brain.

[E]

And then everyone's like, you're going crazy. You're going crazy.

[C]

Yeah, we need the psychiatrist in here. I mean, listen, I don't think they were cloning him. I don't think that's what was happening. But it is interesting that he went to that place. Speaking of clones, there's another conspiracy over the years that I've always thought was, you know, crazy. And, like, I don't know. So I guess let's get into our ridiculous. Right. Reptiles. Okay? We've talked about it before. The idea that there is a community of reptilian people that live underground. Although I did see this. This is a side note. Somebody was like, oh, the Ninja Turtles. Did you see that?

[D]

I did.

[C]

It's like, the Teenage Ninja Turtles is actually, like, lizard people. Yes. And they live underground in the sewers. I was like, okay, it was too much. I was like, this one's ruining my childhood.

[A]

I wanted it when I was a kid. I was trying to pull up the gutters.

[E]

You're trying to go into the sewers?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I wanted to be a lizard person.

[C]

Whoa. So that's like brainwashing. Able to want to be.

[A]

Oh, no. My mom has pictures of me, literally, like, I need it. You didn't watch the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

[D]

Not, yes.

[C]

I didn't want to live in a gutter.

[A]

You didn't want to see what was down there.

[C]

So disappointing, the idea of reptiles actually, you know, being reptiles undercover in human suits and all that stuff. Very scary. Right then I didn't even search it. I was just thinking about it. And then the fucking algorithm started sending me shit. And I was like, first, this is an interview with Robbie Williams. He's a famous singer in the uk, and he's talking about his experience with what he thought could have been a reptile person. Take of this.

[D]

What you like, I was in bed with a woman.

[C]

And that's it. That's the end of my story. I was in bed with a woman, right? I'm lying on the pillow and I'm looking at her face, right? Her face turned into what I could

[D]

only described as a reptilian.

[C]

My face went, oh, my God. She looks at me and she says, I'm not a reptilian. Boom. Take it. Make of that what you will. That's what happened. Okay. Crazy Right.

[D]

What?

[C]

Okay, so he's about to have sex with someone. They look like a reptile. Then I see this clip of Britney Spears. I went with this one guy and he just, like. He looked like a lizard. I was so scared. I can't see this.

[A]

I turned him up. I was like, oh, my God.

[C]

I was like, holy shit, he looks just like a lizard. And I had to go. It was really bad. So you just. So you just left. Wow. The same scenario in bed with someone. And then you turn and they look like a fucking lizard.

[A]

That's like a weight spot for reptilians.

[D]

I mean, Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins. I believe it was on Howard Stern. But he went into this whole story. He said it happened to him twice, where he was in bed with a woman and they were in the act. And then he looked up at her and her face started shifting and it started looking like a reptile saw a

[E]

transformation that I can't explain.

[C]

The person transformed into something other than human.

[E]

Yes. Imagine you're doing something and suddenly you turn around and there's somebody else standing.

[D]

But there's a guy who did a very de. Deep dive and a bunch of research. He talked to people in the music industry, people from Chicago, which is where Billy Corgan is from and where this happened at. So, like, there's a lot that kind of goes towards that being the truth, but it's just been shut down completely.

[C]

My question about the reptile thing is why is it always a celebrity is in bed and then they find out the person's a reptile? Because that story has not just. Just those two. I've heard. I was looking it up.

[A]

It must be a weak spot.

[C]

Or is it like some sort of initiation or something? Like, if you're a reptile person.

[D]

Right.

[C]

Do they. This is all theory, by the way. If you're a reptile person. That's crazy. But I didn't say right in. Right into the ridiculous.

[A]

Is it spreadable now? Is Billy a reptile now? Is Britney a reptile?

[C]

That's what I'm saying. It's like. Is the point of having sex with a celebrity if you're a reptile person? Is it like, what is the.

[A]

To make them a reptile or to.

[D]

Energy harvesting? You're, like, harvesting their energy because during sex there's a transference of energy. And, like, it's something that lives within you now. So it could be that.

[B]

See, I was wondering if it was. Yeah. Like the sensation of when you're intimate. The sensation that you get from that and then at the end almost showing like being dominant and showing your true self after, because that's very vulnerable.

[C]

Whoa.

[E]

Jesus.

[C]

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[A]

Probably has nothing. Okay, sorry, what? Well, I was gonna say probably has nothing to do with it being 100 degrees outside and 66 inside.

[C]

Now I'm the chemtrail.

[A]

Now he's my problem. He's my personal chemtrail.

[C]

So then I did not.

[A]

No more detours.

[C]

What?

[A]

I was walking the stairs behind him. He fired. I was like, oh, another chemtrail.

[C]

It was Elon.

[E]

We used to call that crop dustin back in the day.

[A]

Sorry, you have to. I was like, of course you do.

[C]

Anyway, back to the serious. So then I'm on Instagram, and I swear, it's like, I mean, we already know that our phones are listening to our mind and our brain waves. We don't have to say or type anything. I open my phone, first thing I see is a reel from Big Boi from Outkast. And he posted this bullshit.

[E]

That's the whole video. Look at his bullshit.

[C]

Look at all that bullshit. Okay, so then now my algorithm is just swarmed with this, so we can just go through a few of these. I mean, are we kidding? Is this a joke? How about that? Look at that? Gorgeous.

[D]

Gorgeous. Just aluminum to the dome.

[C]

Aluminum to the dome. Yeah. So there's hundreds of videos like those. Like, it was just every video. I even sent Spencer a video because I literally walked outside. Yeah, I walked outside and I was just like, I have quite a few that are sending me pictures. I mean, I know this isn't a new thing, and I know it probably is just airplanes and stuff, but, like, I feel like in the last few months, it's gotten fucking crazy.

[A]

Has this always been going on above our heads and we've just never realized it? Like, I want to look at, like, sky on my phone from 10 years ago and see if it's the same or is there an uptick in this? Oh, yeah. I was on vacation the other. Like, we were at our. On our 10 year anniversary, and I just, like, looked up and I was like, in the X.

[C]

That picture is kind of hard, though.

[A]

X marks the spot.

[C]

So then I started looking. I started looking into it because I was like, okay, I know that basic idea, right? The Idea is that they are spraying chemicals to make us sick, to kill us for population control. Like that is the theory. But then I was like, but what are they actually spraying? Where is this theory actually coming from? So then I started watching these videos of people talking about geoengineering. Geoengineering is a real thing. There has been testimony in front of the United nations. People like Bill Gates means spraying chemicals out of airplanes in our skies. Things like aluminum and barium that are toxic. And what is the purpose? To dim the sun, one of the sources of all life on the planet. They want to dim the sun. Aluminum is toxic to all life forms. It has no biological function. Use anything, and it's neurotoxic. They are spraying neurotoxins on us that

[A]

we can't avoid that then go into

[C]

our crops that are taken up in our rivers and streams. So here's the thing. Once again, this is just a theory. I'm not saying I believe any of this, but I do want to dive into it a little bit and see what is the theory. Because is this something that in 20 years, we're going to look back at and be like, remember when everybody thought it was crazy? And then we're going to be like,

[D]

but actually, contrails are definitely real. I mean, you could look into it. And just to throw out a theoretical here, what people are theorizing is infertility. Like, you can look up Roundup. I mean, Roundup was put on, like, everything by. Just by. By Santos. And, you know, now that's obviously illegal. And there's a huge class action lawsuit, billions of dollars. But so what? Chemtrails, contrails are. What they're saying it is, is. Have you guys heard of cloud seeding?

[E]

Yeah, I was just about to bring that up.

[D]

So cloud seeding, a lot of people weren't aware of it until the Olympics in 2008, where in Beijing, it looked like it was going to rain during the ceremonies. And China spends $300 million a year on weather modification research. And they're able to figure out that if you spray silver in clouds, it'll actually cause the rain to dissipate and fall fast. So what we do is. And a lot of it is saying, like, you know, well, it's for farmers because crops need extra rainfall. So the way a cloud works is a cloud is a bunch of water crystals, but unless they get close enough to each other or heavy enough, they're not going to fall, and they just remain clouds. So what they do is they fly through these clouds and they disperse silver, which acts as a molecule for the water to bond to. It becomes heavy, heavier, and then the rain falls.

[C]

So. And that's. That happened.

[D]

And that's exactly.

[E]

It's illegally.

[D]

That's. That's legal. But I'd seen video Tennessee last year, or no, 2024 actually banned it. So it's illegal in Tennessee right now. It's on the bill for Florida and 12 other states. So all of these states are actively trying to ban something that at the same time, the other states are saying doesn't exist. And even when you hear experts talk about it, it's very conflicting inflicting. But silver does have a lethal dose. So it's crazy that they'll tell you it's for farmers because they need to have water for their crops, but you're poisoning. But they're putting it directly over the crops. So it is like. There's people that are in the Air Force, I believe they started this in, like, the 60s or something with cloud seeding and weather modification. But it's funny because there are pilots that when you ask them about chemtrails, if it's real, they'll say no. Well, I was actually in rain modification, and we used to go through and spray the silver, or they do either silver dry ice or sodium chloride. And this is put into the clouds in order to make it rain. But it's like. So you're telling me you literally put chemicals in this guy?

[E]

You're literally doing it, but it doesn't exist.

[D]

So it's very weird.

[C]

Right? I think there are a lot of motives. Which brings me to my next theory, which I. And I'm not trying to shit on any of these people. Right. I don't think it's their fault. I'm not saying it's them specifically, but has anybody noticed that Gen Z is now making smoking cool again?

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. It's everywhere. TikTok, Instagram. Like, the new thing is cigarettes. Cigarettes, Right. So it's like big celebrities all smoking cigarettes. But what really got me was this picture of Kylie Jenner on Vanity Fair just smoking a cigarette. Which, by the way, I can't even show that, I was told in my YouTube because I looked into it. Wait, what? You cannot even show a cigarette in a YouTube video. It'll get demonetized.

[A]

Wait, what?

[C]

Can't show it in a thumbnail. Can't show it in a video. Like, it is literally. You can't have cigarette commercials on tv. Like, cigarette cigarettes have been banned by advertising for years, but now with Gen Z, it's everywhere because they always want to do the opposite of what we're doing. And we drink and think smoking.

[E]

Well, we know smoking's bad.

[C]

And they're like, well, our parents are lame. Let's do the exact opposite. I think that's a big part of it. But is it also being pushed by companies who fund a lot of these things? Because it's like, well, if Gen Z is not drinking, what are they doing that's gonna, you know, whatever? Oh, smoking. Let's have the biggest Gen Z celebrities constantly promoting cigarettes on all their social medias and magazines. And I don't even think they know that they're being used like that.

[D]

I mean, big tobacco is one of the largest entities on the planet. Like I was in the vape space or the E cigarette space for quite a while and there was constant push by big tobacco to try to discredit vaping any way they could. Telling you it's going to give you all these diseases. Like a couple years back there was something called vape gate where a bunch of people got this lung disease.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[D]

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[D]

People were trying to find ways to cut the product. And companies that had no moral compass because they're just trying to make a dollar cut it with something called vitamin E acetate, which when vaped, it never actually dries. It stays like a liquidy, you know, mucusy substance in your lungs. So I think like 50 people or so ended up contracting this disease called popcorn lungs. But big tobacco took it and ran with it and said it's all vaping products because they were losing billions of dollars a year. Like it costs probably 2 cents to make a pack of cigarettes. And have you seen the pack of cigarette pricing? At one point I smoked in life and I think I paid $3 for a pack and we all complained about it. Now it's like over $10.

[E]

Really.

[C]

It's crazy.

[D]

So think about the profit margins. So I mean, they're trying to get it cool as fast as possible they can with the new generation because it's been deemed as, ugh, that's gross. Like, it just reminds me of how my grandpa smelled. So now to see Kylie Jenner or whoever else is doing it, it's like the hive reptilian mind is like, well, now if I do it, I'm some way like Kylie Jenner now, you know. So it's all, it's all based on the industry behind it, which, I mean, Big tobacco is also one of the largest lobbyists in this country, which is basically who gets bills written.

[B]

But the truth to you is that there's so many people who've had experiences or who know people who've had experiences of like, well, I smoked for a little bit and then like I was so I was able to stop right away. Like, it's not a big deal. I was just, you know, young. But it's like, not everybody's like that. Like this is addicting to the point where like you're not gonna be able to stop. And what is a long term effect really gonna do for you? Like, it's scary the mindset that you have when you're younger.

[E]

I also say just like being around people in that vibe more, it's like, it's definitely super common now. If you go out, everyone smokes. And there's even Because I can't because of my heart. There's definitely times I've been like, damn, I wish I could have a cigarette right now. That'd be so cool. But I also think like Gen Z's generation vaping. I don't know if it was pushed or not, but just like vaping became so commonplace like every high school or vapor now every, like they all vape. And I think that also kind of does normalize the like, well, I'm so close to smoking a cigarette. Like, and like cigarettes are cooler. Vaping is like you're puffing other things,

[B]

especially if you don't like the certain flavors that are. Because I want to say it's only like menthol and tobacco.

[E]

Yeah.

[B]

And if you don't like those, then,

[E]

well, also flavored tobacco flavored vape is like, like what are they trying to make you do?

[D]

It's so ironic because, I mean E cigarettes have been around 16, 17 years, but they came out as a way to get people off of cigarettes to the previous generation. And now they've become a way to get people onto cigarettes because they made it very easy for you to get them. And then the big companies slowly made the regulations to where it's gonna be very hard to get them. But you're addicted already. So, I mean, cigarettes are pretty easy to get at every gas station on the planet. So it's just weird, the shift. And, like, maybe it is uncool now to vape because people's parents are vaping because that's the generation it started in. So it's interesting.

[E]

I'll say one thing that's also not. It's, like, similar but different is a huge thing with guys my age. Are zins those little. Like, oh, yeah, everyone has those. And like, I'm assuming, like, people, you know, like, everyone just does that. And it's like, if you already just have that nicotine habit, it's like, okay, well, what else does. You know what I mean? There's so many ways to just like, keep you in the. In that, like, I don't know, before,

[B]

you know, you're going to be dipping.

[E]

Well, I probably won't, but.

[C]

Well, you can find all those great products probably at the gas station, the grocery store, along with a lot of junk food. Which leads us to our next theory, which is, what the are we eating? Okay, I fell down a rabbit hole. I'm going to start here. Hershey's don't come for me.

[E]

We got sent this a ton, but

[C]

we got said this so many times. And I just want to show it because it looks so crazy. Just check this out.

[B]

What?

[A]

It's rubber.

[C]

What is happening?

[A]

Wait, did you get some Hershey's for us to try this?

[E]

Oh, no, we didn't actually.

[C]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I think we need to post what is happening? Okay, look, listen. I mean, we've seen the original creator of Rhesus or the family of Reese's. Yeah, yeah. His grandpa or whatever, because he's like, what the fuck are you guys putting in Rhesus now? It tastes gross. Like, what is happening? I don't know what's happening there, but I will say it reminded me of a couple years ago when we had all that rubber fruit. It was like, look at this banana. And the lady was like. And it was like, look at this watermelon. It was like. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Hershey, whose own Reese's since 1963, says that starting next year, it is going back to the classic milk chocolate and dark chocolate recipe. So that kind of led me Down a rabbit hole about food in general and certain things that these food companies are doing, which is so crazy. And I know we already know all this, but I heard one about chips that really me up. I was telling Ryland about that.

[D]

Don't do this. Chips, dude.

[E]

Come on.

[D]

What are you gonna tell me? Salsa's bad for me?

[A]

Isn't it crazy that, like, I don't get upset about AI but all this

[C]

food shit, it's so hard.

[A]

It really drives me nuts.

[C]

Even the good food.

[E]

That is crazy, because even the good food.

[B]

There. Now they're saying it's not good.

[E]

Yeah, right? Yeah.

[B]

And then we can talk about who owns all the products.

[A]

Food and home products. It drives me crazy.

[C]

So scientists say that chips can be as addictive as drugs.

[E]

I believe that this. I fully believe this. I'm addicted.

[C]

It is engineered that way. Allegedly. Just a theory.

[E]

Kind of.

[C]

Kind of. So they literally make it impossible for you to just stop at one. That's like the whole thing. Facts. And how do they do that? They engineer certain things inside of like. Okay. Chips are engineered for addiction through a hyper palatable combination of high fat, salt, and carbohydrates, which triggers dopamine release in your brain's reward center. Even the sound, the satisfying crunch, it is all referred to as sensory specific satiety. I don't know if I said that word or not. Are you describing. This is making my mouth water. Okay, There we go. Okay.

[E]

I'm literally. Yes.

[C]

Remember that, too.

[E]

I was thinking of Doritos.

[C]

Okay. This is the craziest part because of the fat content of the chips, because what they put in it. My mouth is watering.

[A]

Literally.

[C]

Literally.

[D]

I'm just.

[C]

Just.

[D]

I'm waiting for you to bring out. So we're gonna eat some chips right now.

[E]

Are you guys addicted yet?

[C]

They specifically want you to be so addicted to these chips that you can't just stop at one. You have to eat the whole bag. They want you to be so addicted that you don't even have to stop for a sip of water or a sip of a drink. I go for a bag of hot fries right now. So they. They literally make it so that these chips make you salivate and keep your mouth wet. Because if you stop to take a sip of water, it's a break you've broken.

[E]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's the same thing as, like, a squirrel? It's basically scrolling for your mouth.

[C]

This is the most validating thing I've ever heard because I literally eat so many chips. It's disgusting. Now you know, shrinkflation, you get these huge party sized bags of chips and now there's like way less in them. And now you eat the whole bag and you can't stop. And now you need to buy a second bag. And now you're like, well, I can't just get the one back. I got to get this bag. And now it's like chips to me is the epitome and I love chips, so I'm not coming for the chip industry. But it is the epitome of like, it is so completely addictive. Almost as addictive as drugs because of the dopamine release. I don't know. That just made me fucking freak out. So then I saw this, maybe like a year ago, maybe not even that long ago, I was like, what the hell is going on with protein? It's in everything to a point where it's like a meme. Now it's like pop tart protein, Starbucks cold foam with protein. Like it's all this protein, right? I'm like, what the hell is this? Then I see this.

[A]

I'm sure you've all heard the news by now, but if you haven't, Reese's now has protein peanut butter cups. So let's take a closer look. If you ask me, this is long overdue. And these peanut butter cups, check so many boxes. Reese's Pro plus is the name. They are all natural, gluten free, have no cholesterol and no trans fat. No artificial sweeteners. I mean, I mean, this is unreal for a protein snack. And with 10 grams of protein, 4 grams of fiber, it's pretty impressive. Now these are higher in calories, but I mean, come on. And if you haven't spotted these in a store near you, it's probably because you've seen their other packaging. This is probably the version you've seen in stores. I am a jerk. I am so sorry. But Reese's protein peanut butter cups are not a real thing. Those are the same exact products as these. This is to show you how powerful health food branding and marketing can be. Everything on that label is true of these right here. But I'm willing to bet you would buy Reese's Pro plus king size big cups by highlighting the things that make these sound healthier and giving it a name like Reese's Pro, it makes it seem like it's a high protein treat, when in reality, I mean, these are not a good source of protein. They are delicious, but not a good source of protein. Beware of health food marketing because this and this this are the same thing.

[C]

Wait, is that a real thing?

[A]

They have those or is he just showing us what could be.

[C]

Yes, he's just saying. So look at this next one.

[A]

I was going to say after you finished that video, I would always grab for that if I had. If it was they were next to each other.

[C]

I know. And that's the thing. So when you look at these protein bars and you look at, you know, they're candy, they're. They're literally like, okay, I don't want to like put them on blast. But I, there's a protein bar that I used to really like and I was looking at the nutrition and the ingredients and I, I was like, oh my God. And I compared it to a Snickers bar and it was almost identical. And I was like, oh, is this, is this literally just about branding and it's a way to make you think it's healthy? So then I fell down this rabbit hole.

[A]

It seems too good to be true. It probably is. You could rebrand anything to make it sound healthy and to prove it. I'm going to rebrand Pepsi to sound healthy. I'm just going to rebrand regular Pepsi for this one. And I'm going to use the skinny can because I like the aesthetic of it a little bit more. Changing up the colors a little bit. I'm gonna start with a solid black can. I'll put the Pepsi logo front and center because you have to. I gotta find a unique angle to make this one sound healthy. So I'm gonna go the hydration route because the main ingredient in Pepsi is carbonated water. So I'm gonna call this Pepsi hydrate plus. The plus having no meaning at all. It just makes it sound better. I guess it could be like plus flavor. I guess Pepsi does use natural flavors, so I'll add naturally flavored on there. And then I'm also going to add 100% plant based because that's true too. Since the main ingredient is water, I'm going to emphasize that on the bottom saying main ingredient always water. And instead of just being soda, I'm going to call this premium sparkling cola. At the top I'll add smooth taste and clean energy. And then below that a few more call outs. Fat free, gluten free and low sodium. And the plain black can is cool, but we need to do a little bit more. I'm going to add some blue elements to this to really accentuate weight. The water. And I will put the Pepsi logo in a water drop. And just like that, telling no Lies at all. We've got healthy, hydrating Pepsi.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

But this made me start thinking about every food and that's why all the things that are like protein, protein. I'm like, it's not that they're even adding protein properly. These companies are seeing the trend and they're like, we have protein in our pop tarts.

[D]

Well, that's why said 10 grams of protein. I'm like, that's nothing.

[C]

So this one, to me was the craziest. Like nerds. This just makes me question everything. Look at how he does it with nerds.

[B]

They're so delicious.

[A]

Though by popular demand, I am going to try to rebrand Nerds Gummy Clusters to look healthy. Let's see what I got. I want to show nerds respect. So I'm going to keep the logo on there, but I am going to shrink it down quite a bit because I don't want it to be the focal point. And now the name Nerds candy Gummy Clusters is not going to cut it for a health food. So let's go with very simple, simple, crunchy fruit chews. Below that I'll add made with real fruit juice with an asterisk because they do use real fruit juice, but a bunch of other stuff too. I can just add that disclaimer at the bottom or on the back. Some call outs at the top to make these sound healthy. These are fat free, only 100 calories per serving and low sodium at the bottom. I will also add no high fructose corn syrup because they do use artificial flavors and colors. But. But it's true that there's no high fructose corn syrup. And I'll also add no gluten. And last but certainly not least, I want to add fruit to this package. There's no specific fruit flavor for these. It's just rainbow. So I'm just going to add a rainbow assortment of fruit all over the perimeter of this package. And there you go. Nerds Gummy clusters are now healthy.

[C]

Crazy.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Then crazy that makes me rethink everything going into literally every health food or candy or like, oh, protein this or whatever. So then I started thinking. I was like, oh, maybe 10 years ago everything was low carb. Low carb, low carb. Ten years before that, everything was low fat and low sugar. Look, now it's all high protein. So it's almost like, oh, yeah, this is just the next stupid brainwashing trend of like this trigger word that makes us think what we're eating is healthy when actually we're just Eating a fucking candy bar. But because it's high protein and I fall for it all the time, I'm like, like a protein cookie. I'm like, well then it's a protein cookie.

[E]

Yeah.

[C]

And then I get fucking diarrhea because I shouldn't be having that much protein

[B]

on top of more protein. I think people also will go for like keto, right? Because then the emphasizes. Well, it doesn't have carbs.

[C]

Oh my God. I've been eating these keto brownies like it's fucking water.

[A]

Oh my God.

[C]

And I'm like, but it's keto.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

That's bad. Yeah. So the food industry, I don't know, it's.

[A]

I just don't know how all these people sleep at night. I don't. I couldn't sell a product like that.

[D]

Very expensive sheets in bunkers with silk.

[C]

Guys, you know what's coming up?

[E]

What?

[C]

So thank you. It felt like you were so invested. There's a lot coming up.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Life, things happening. Summer's coming. But you know what's coming before summer?

[A]

Spring.

[E]

Spring.

[C]

Spring. And you know what happens in spring?

[A]

Festival cleaning.

[B]

Mother's Day.

[C]

Mother's Day. Yes, that's right. Mother's Day is coming so soon. And what do you get your mom? What do you get the woman who birthed you? It's like, oh my God, what do I do? What is she gonna actually enjoy? She's gonna enjoy blocking out the haters, blocking out the noise, blocking out her annoying husband.

[A]

The haters being her family.

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[C]

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[E]

This happened to my friend. She was riding her bike home from work and got hit by a truck.

[C]

Oh my God, that's so crazy.

[E]

And she was literally saying, where I think this ad is going?

[C]

How do I do what I do?

[E]

I was like, morgan and Morgan, baby.

[C]

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[A]

No, we'll see you in two weeks.

[C]

Enjoy the rest of the show. This theory. Spencer told me this one. So this was an email, by the way, if you have any theories or Mandelas or anything you want us to talk about. Shane dawson podcast guest stuffmail.com this one came in and when Spencer started telling me about it, I was like, yes, I have noticed this ever since I got a new phone and it has pissed me off so much. And I have a part two to the theory, I think. But do you want to?

[E]

So have you guys noticed there was that big update, and they just changed everything with iPhone. Remember that?

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Now it's texting. Seems harder, right? Isn't the keyboard, like, worse?

[C]

So I never update my phone.

[A]

I just can't find photos.

[E]

But you haven't noticed.

[A]

All right, whatever.

[E]

Just say yes. Say yes.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

I really haven't.

[A]

Well, I talk to text, but.

[E]

Okay, well, that's part of the theory.

[A]

No, my talk to text has been.

[C]

Everything I spelled recently is wrong. Every single thing. And I'm not, like, a bad speller, but every time I text someone, it's wrong, and it's. I lose my mind. I'm like, where's the A? Why is my thing. I'm hitting the A. You used to be so good at it before.

[B]

I just saw my phone was like. Like, stickier. Like, something was on my phone that wasn't letting me click the keyboard.

[E]

Well, this is a theory from Rachel. She said, hi, podcast people. Has anyone noticed the iPhone keyboard has been getting progressively worse? I can't go one sentence without a typo, and autocorrect doesn't seem to pick up as many words. It's been really frustrating, and I didn't realize that so many other people were noticing it too. Anyway, the theory is that the iPhone keyboard is getting progressively worse so that you're annoyed with it. Into sending voice memos or voice to text text so they can start getting more and more samples of your voice, more audio, samples of voice to sample, clone, do whatever the hell they want with it. I personally hate texting because it feels like my fingers can't type fast or correct enough. So I always just send voice memos to my friends.

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Best, Rachel.

[C]

Thank you. I literally just told you when we were setting up. I become one of those old people who talks to text now because.

[E]

Because of this.

[D]

When you talk to text, do you talk in, like, a certain tone?

[E]

I don't know.

[D]

Because I'll do that. Like, hey, what's up, dad? I'll, like, say it in a way where I'll, like, never say that to a person. I'll be like, good morning, exclamation point, thinking, comma.

[C]

I do think the bigger theory there is eventually the idea of, like, removing. They've already removed handwriting. They've already removed cursive. They've already removed, you know, all of our ways of communicating in that way. That's a shirt, where there's, you know, footprints and whatever. To me, it's almost like, is the goal to make it so that we only communicate Via voice. Because it can collect all of our audio samples. But not just audio samples. That's information. I mean, they're listening to everything. So I don't know. I definitely think there is a theory here, though, that's interesting. And even with the Pokemon Go thing, it's like, oh, that's so crazy. Like, it's just a game. Cut to them. Literally using all of that of that data to fund another business.

[A]

Like, yeah, you combine that with the aluminum falling from the sky and it's over.

[E]

That really got to you, huh? Really? Chemtrails really got to you?

[A]

I told you I've been researching them

[B]

for 12 hours to kind of swing it back to the Epstein's file. How you said, like, why is anybody talking about this? I think it's even with this, like, I don't know if it's. The world is so busy or if people feel hopeless. Cause it's like, okay, what about that six files? What's gonna happen? Yeah, what am I gonna do? How can I affect this? Exactly. Like, I just feel like, are people just so busy because they're trying to, you know, live day to day and they're everyday trying to survive? Yeah, exactly. They're trying to survive.

[D]

Trying to get the protein in.

[B]

I would rather get a protein in a quick snack where I'm on my way somewhere or. Yeah, I want my phone to be able to talk for me because I'm too busy to do that. Like, it just goes back to the Epstein smile. Like, well, how does that affect me right now?

[D]

And how am I?

[C]

Yeah, well, it's also like, you know, the distractions. It's so. It's like, there's that and then it's like, oh, you know, okay, now that's over. People are done talking about that. Oh, they're talking about the files again. Oh, here's another. Here's another thing. That's tsa.

[E]

These lines are crazy, right?

[C]

Well, to lighten the mood just a little bit, now let's jump into some rabbit holes. All right? We got some crazy ones. We have one about the bodies exhibit in Vegas. I have one that is to supposed about a children's book author who murdered someone. I don't know if you guys have heard about this, but it's really, really dark.

[A]

I have one.

[C]

Jarrett, you have one about what?

[A]

Don't worry about it.

[C]

And Jared has one about things in your bathroom that you should really throw away.

[D]

Actually, it's extended to the whole household. And I thought what would be fun is I think me and Sandy would probably be like on a team because we live in the same household. But it's basically how often you're supposed to react. Replace items within your household to be healthy.

[C]

Oh no.

[D]

So just I want to ask how often? Well, who here even wears house slippers? Does anybody wear house slippers? I'm a croc guy.

[C]

Crocs.

[D]

But they say. So I'll just say this one. They say for house slippers, if you don't want to have a bunch of bacteria within your house, you should be replacing those every three months.

[A]

I would like to be a shoe free house but Shane won't let me.

[D]

What about a toothbrush? How often do you replace your toothbrush?

[E]

Well, I have noticed the bristles. Toothbrush that took tells me when I'm supposed to.

[A]

It tells you what brand is it?

[D]

Do you do it?

[A]

Wait, my sonic doesn't tell me when I need to change it.

[E]

Yeah, you sound like you have a poor one. I was given this one as a gift and.

[D]

And things become dangerous after this time. I need to throw that out there. So I replaced. You're not replacing it this often?

[A]

I do like a month and a

[C]

half for me as soon as the bristles are like bendy, like I don't know which is pretty quick. Like a couple weeks or something.

[E]

A couple weeks max.

[C]

A month? Yeah.

[D]

Well, most toothbrushes. This isn't actually in the article that I'm looking at here, but the bristles on a toothbrush, the coloring on it will actually fade. And once it's completely faded, that's when you're supposed to throw it away. So like the blue coloring on your toothbrush, once that's faint, you're supposed to throw it away. But it's supposed to be every three months. I've been using the same toothbrush for like three years.

[C]

What?

[D]

Well, I just got a new one but before that. And I only got a new one because like we just received it or I would have probably never used a new toothbrush. I'm a loyal guy to a fault, including my toothbrush. All right, what about a kitchen? This is kind of gross. I mean, kitchen sponge.

[E]

What is the toothbrush answer?

[D]

Three months.

[E]

Three months. Okay.

[C]

Okay, how about this? There's a few of these.

[A]

No sponges.

[D]

There's a few of these that are like back. Whatever. There's a few though, that really got me because I thought we'd all have a bad answer for. Okay, but how often? I don't know if yours tells you, Spencer, you fucking Gen Z guy. But how often do you replace your pillow?

[A]

Oh, the actual pillow.

[D]

Your actual pillow.

[A]

Oh, not enough.

[E]

I don't even.

[A]

Almost never.

[D]

I can't remember the last. Well, we bought new pillows, but we still use the older pillows. You're supposed to replace your pillow every year because dead skin, dust mites, and dirts build up and become harmful to you.

[C]

Oh, I'm doing every two. So that's. I don't know.

[D]

Isn't that crazy?

[A]

What was the kitchen sponge.

[D]

A week and a half.

[C]

Okay, that makes sense. A week and a half. Yeah.

[D]

You're supposed to wash your bed sheets every week.

[C]

That's what I do.

[D]

Because you can get acne.

[C]

Yes, I get acne.

[A]

I change my pillowcase, like, every three days because I'm afraid of breaking out.

[D]

I think we've had towels in our house for five plus years.

[B]

Didn't you use paper towels for my face?

[A]

I'll use paper towels, but, like, if I'm getting out of the shower, I'll reuse like. Like a shower towel twice. But I won't do it with my face.

[D]

Oh, yeah, underwear.

[A]

Oh, I change it daily.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

Replace. The fact that you said it that fast leads me to believe you don't. But how often you should replace your underwear?

[A]

Six months.

[D]

Oh, wow, you're good. I don't buy new underwear until there's holes in it.

[C]

Yes,

[D]

but I just. I just thought some of these were interesting because it's like, maybe it's being put out by underwear companies. Hey, we ain't selling enough underwear. You gotta get rid of underwear every week.

[C]

What about, like, makeup sponges?

[D]

Ooh, makeup sponges. You are supposed to replace every three months.

[C]

Oh, that's longer than I thought. You are.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah, I just thought that was interesting.

[C]

We didn't talk about the avalanche thing.

[E]

Right. We haven't talked about that yet.

[C]

So that's crazy. My rabbit hole. Something that I never even thought about, ever. And then I saw this video of a train, and they're going through a snowy area, and an avalanche starts to come. And it's, like, getting closer and then just. And snow. Totally overdecked. Everybody was fine. But, like, it freaked me out. Cause I was like, oh, my God, that's so scary. Then I saw this. People who get stuck in avalanches report not knowing which way the ground is, which way the sky is. Oh, my God. When you don't have any visual information, when the usual things that you use as cues are stripped away, it's incredibly difficult to orient yourself.

[A]

I've Heard that. And I love thinking about it because

[D]

it's so frightening to be like buried in snow.

[A]

Not knowing which way is up, not knowing which way to like crawl out. And I have in while I'm laying

[D]

in bed thinking of how I would

[A]

survive certain things, I've come up with my strategy.

[C]

Can I tell you what it is? Yeah, go ahead. It would be to drool. Yes, that is, that's the actual trick. Is that a real thing that you should do? That's the real trick is to spit and see which way the saliva goes. Yeah. And then you know which way down is. Exactly.

[E]

Wow.

[C]

I was thinking. I've never thought about that. That's terrifying. It like makes me sick. Thinking about being trapped in makes me sick to my stomach. Like, have you ever jumped off a high dive into a pool?

[E]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And when you jump off a high dive and you get into the, the pool and your body starts to kind of flail around, go crazy. There's like a. There's a brief moment where you're like. You don't know where is up and where is down. And you're like, what the fuck? What the fuck? And then your body starts flaring. Okay, there I am. Like, that is so scary. The thought of that in snow.

[A]

Awful.

[C]

Imagine they're like panic digging down the wall. Oh my God. Oh my God. I could throw up. Yeah, that's. I hate that. So much so that I thought this could be an interesting conversation. What is your biggest fear? Slash. What is the scariest way to die?

[A]

Sharks.

[E]

I'm so scared of sharks. I'm so scared.

[A]

Well then just don't swim in the ocean.

[E]

But I love the ocean.

[D]

I would say being buried alive in a very tight coffin where I couldn't move at all. Because think about it, a shark. I'm not like, it's gonna be pretty quick, but if you're buried in a cofton with enough oxygen, you can live for like days. And just imagine if you can't slowly

[A]

and then you have an itch and

[D]

if you try to move your hand, like you're gonna be stuck like this for who knows how long. But I mean, anything where you're restricted to movement and you just have to die of natural causes is terrifying because you're viscerally aware of all of it,

[B]

but you can't do anything.

[D]

Like I would rather just get shot, you know what I'm saying? And have it be over. So I think that.

[C]

But.

[E]

Well, have you seen how those like cave, you know those guys who explore like the caves where it's like, you can barely. And, like, the animations of how those guys have died. It's truly.

[D]

Well, that's exactly what I'm saying.

[C]

Imagine that I'm more and more afraid of people as time goes on. Because as when I was younger, in high school, like, I would take public transportation all the time. And then, like, as time has gone on, especially not that long ago, there's the video of the guy who stabbed

[A]

the woman to death.

[C]

Like, some really horrific things have been happening. At least I've seen videos of. And I don't know. Now I'm more scared than ever. But, like, before, I would easily, happily take public transit. I would happily be like, I don't know. I never thought about these things. And, like, I'm more scared as time goes on. Oh, yeah. Me and Rylan were just, like, walking around, like, a beach area, like, 11pm and I was like, somebody could just kill us right now. Like that. And. And then what?

[A]

Were you there when we talked about this?

[C]

When we were eating before? My. I had a friend come visit who had never been to Santa Monica before. It was his first time ever and his first time ever on the pier. There's a shooting, and everyone, like, goes in the bathroom and thinks they're gonna die in panic. And I'm like, I've been to the pier so many times. That's never happened. I have to be scared of the pier now. I have to, like, everything's scary now.

[E]

I feel.

[B]

I mean, there's a reason, right? Anywhere I go, if there's, like, a ton of people, I always like, okay, where's the exits? Like, what would I do if something were to happen, happen? Just because, you know, nowadays it's horrible, these tragic events that happen, and. Yeah, yeah. So people are definitely the scariest.

[C]

Well, speaking of scary, you had a rabbit hole about the bodies exhibit, which I'm curious about, because I've been there, and that shit fucked. It was also right next to a Titanic exhibit where it was like, just. I mean, I love Titanic, but it was fucking scary, too, because it was like, put your hand in this cold water and see how long you last.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

They were in this for days. Oh, my go was right next to the bodies exhibit. And I walk in, and I was just like, yeah, so tell us.

[E]

Yeah, well, this is dark.

[C]

Is a mother claiming that her son was murdered and his body is being displayed at the bodies exhibit in Las Vegas. Her son was named Christopher Todd Eric. He died in 2012. His death was Originally listed as a heart attack, but then they changed it to a suicide after the police found

[B]

traces of cyanide in his body.

[C]

His mom was like, he would never take his own life. She thinks that he was murdered by his father and his step family. His mom was told that he was

[B]

cremated, but she says it's obvious that he never was.

[C]

And his father sold his body to be displayed at the bodies exhibit in Las Vegas. She even has a picture of the alleged body of her son in the bodies exhibit. And she's saying there is a lot of similarities to what her son looked like.

[E]

Yeah. So this is there. Yeah, it's very. This is all alleged. I will say this is not nothing that's been proving. We. We just are like, it's just a theory. But yeah. So this didn't even get into some of. I was looking. I was. I, like, watched that video. Someone, I think, recommended it on the Patreon or something like that. And I was like, going down this rabbit hole.

[D]

Just out of curiosity, is the bodies exhibit something done through the science world,

[E]

or is it something that's kind of the theory?

[D]

Because if I have on my id, I'm an organ donor and I pass away, can my body just go to the bodies exhibit?

[E]

I don't think so. I think you could be like, oh, I'm donating my body to this. But then it is. It's. Supposedly the exhibit is presented, like, look at the amazing human body.

[D]

I mean, so they're not gonna take my body once they have, like, fat body exhibit. I might be in the runnings, but

[E]

it's, you know, like, the muscle and all that stuff. And people There have been long. People have often been questioning, like, where do they get these bodies from? Like, where do they. And so the mom is demanding to do a DNA test to this body, and they're refusing to do it. Whoa. So I don't know. I don't, like. Who knows what that means? Maybe they don't want to, like, play into this whole thing. Whatever. But also, if it is. Actually, yeah, she's right, though, because the thing with the dad was that it's getting a little. It gets a little true crimey. But it's like she and the dad hated each other. He, like, went with him and then passed away. And then she never got to, like, see the body afterwards. The dad was just like, oh, he was cremated. He was cremated. And so I forget There was another detail. I forget what. But, like, about how she's like, where are the ashes? Where's this where's that? And then like there was a tie from the dad to Vegas. And then I don't know exactly how she came exactly. I don't know exactly how she made this connection.

[D]

But out of curiosity though, how are the bodies, what is the process to get the bodies?

[E]

It's very like, it's not exactly clear what the process is, which is why I think this is so many people are like, oh, what is the deal here? And like where do you get these bodies from? Like supposedly they're getting donated. Some are donated, but it's like there's a lot of bodies here. And so I don't know. But anyway, that was a rabbit hole. I fell down, man. I didn't really have to get into it, but it was because there's no like conclusion.

[C]

But yeah, that's horrifying. This is dark as well. So this last rabbit hole to me kind of goes along the same lines as sometimes serial killers or you know, people who are doing harmful things like to just put it out there because if they were guilty, like they would never put it out there like this. This one is so crazy. I cannot believe this is real. This mother of three was celebrated for a children's book she wrote about grief after her husband died. He was 39. It completely took us all by shock. But now a bombshell new chapter. She's accused of murdering him. Kouri Richens told authorities she found her 39 year old husband Eric cold to the touch on the floor in their bedroom. The newly widowed mom posted this tribute video to her husband on Facebook. Life is just so damn hard without you here, she writes. Then she published this book, teaching kids how to deal with grief. She titled it are you with me? It features an image of her smiling husband in the clouds with angel wings and a halo. It's dedicated to my amazing husband and a wonderful father. Dad is still here. It's just in a different way. 33 year old Richens was interviewed about her book by KTVX in Salt Lake City. My kids and I kind of wrote this book on the different emotions and grieving processes that we've experienced. Her book gets five star reviews on Amazon. Very well written and from the heart. Thank you Cory for writing a book that helps young minds understand that spirits of our loved ones are around us always. But in a stunning development, Kouri Richins was just a random arrested in her husband's death. Authorities say they found five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his body. Court documents say three weeks before he died. Eric Richins had gotten very ill. After a Valentine's Day dinner with his wife, Eric told a friend that he thought his wife was trying to poison him.

[D]

The documents said he was 30 years.

[B]

Horrible.

[C]

So she was found guilty of aggravated murder, attempted murder, insurance insurance fraud, and forgery for poisoning her husband for financial gain. She faces up to 25 years. She should serve all to life in prison. And that happens in May. She'll be sentenced. That is crazy. Yeah, that to me is so crazy, because it's like, you really don't know. Like, this woman. I would have never even known that. And the fact that she wrote a book about how to deal with grief when she's the one that killed the hut is so fucking crazy to me that it's like, what is that people

[A]

are sick in the fucking head. I mean, and then to cash in on the life insurance front too. Like, the book was a bestseller. Wasn't enough for you after killing your husband?

[D]

Yuck.

[C]

Okay, so the last thing I want to bring up is kind of a follow up to something we've talked about before, and this I do not have confirmed. We tried to get them, but they're, like, sold out everywhere. Have you guys heard about Costco's new editor energy drink?

[D]

Is it a cold brew?

[C]

No. Oh, okay. As you guys know, we've done videos about it. We've talked about it on the podcast. There is a theory that some of the products at Costco that are, you know, Kirkland brand are literally the same actual ingredients as the mainstream item. For example, like, you know, the cereal, the Kirkland cereal, There's a theory that it's actually made by the same company that makes the big brand cereals. And the reason they do that is called white labeling. And the reason they do that is because they want to be able to, you know, make more of a profit on it. And I mean, Aldi has been allegedly doing this. Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's has been allegedly doing this. Like this one, I instantly knew. And I don't know if anybody's talking about this yet, but Costco just rolled out Kirkland signature sparkling energy drinks. They're only 70 cents a can. Oh, my God, so cheap. And they look like this Celsius.

[D]

They're like.

[C]

Well, I googled. Cause I was like, instantly, I'm like, what's this a white label of? This has to be a white label of something, right? So then I Google what energy drink is 200mg of caffeine and has flavors tropical orange and peach. It says Kirkland Signature sparkling drinks found at Costco contain 200mg of caffeine, have zero sugar, and offer tropical, orange and peach. The only other energy drink that matches that same criteria of 200 milligrams, caffeine and peach, tropical and orange is Celsius.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And I'm like, what if it's literally the same thing? And how much is a can of Celsius?

[E]

But if it is Celsius, I'm guessing.

[D]

Well, it is.

[E]

They have a deal with.

[A]

No, they're probably just using the same manufacturer.

[C]

So Costco does sell Celsius, and now their new energy drink is. Is right on the shelf next to it.

[B]

I mean, 76. 76 cents a can is ridiculous.

[C]

LCS lost over $100 million because of the Costco energy drink. You can see it. It was announced here, and look how far it's gone. Well, this all sounds to me like we need to hop in that van and go to Costco to get some chicken bakes.

[A]

Ooh, they're always too salty. Sorry, I'm a Costco hater. I hate Costco. Sorry, I hate it.

[E]

Only erewhon where you get good deals.

[A]

I'm not about a good deal. I'm about enjoying vibes.

[E]

You're all about vibes.

[C]

Well, there you guys go. Hopefully you enjoyed this conspiracy only episode again. Who knows? Maybe we'll never do it again. Let us know in the comments. We're gonna see how the next gonna

[E]

be very mad at me this weekend. We're gonna see if you guys like this or not.

[C]

I'm so curious. I don't know. I really genuinely. And I kind of love that I'm. I'm nervous because, like, posting it tomorrow or on Sunday, I don't know what the reaction is going to be. People might hate it, people might like it. But for me personally, I feel like this has just been really fun. So, yeah, I feel good about it.

[A]

Not in an erewhon hoodie while I'm dragging Costco.

[E]

Yeah, an erewhon quarter zip.

[A]

Oh, shit.

[C]

All right, I'll see you guys next time. Keep a lookout for distractions.

[D]

They're everywhere.

[C]

See you next time. Bye,

[E]

Sam.