The Silencers Conspiracy Theories

Summary

The Shane Dawson Podcast

Episode: The Silencers Conspiracy Theories

Release Date: April 26, 2026
Host: Shane Dawson
Co-hosts: Jared, Spencer, Ryland, Chris
Episode Theme: A deep dive into viral conspiracy theories, strange tech developments, pop culture oddities, and AI anxiety—with the signature blend of humor, skepticism, and brutal honesty.

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Overview

This wild, engaging episode of The Shane Dawson Podcast brings together Shane and friends around the “conspiracy table” for a freewheeling, disclaimer-heavy romp through viral conspiracy theories, technological anxieties, and pop culture oddities. From the mysteries of “Palm Beach Pete” and simulation theory, to AI deepfakes, prison-like schools, lab-grown chocolate, self-driving cars, and the color codes of pop music, the crew explores the blurred line between reality and theory. With recurring jokes, surprising research, and “do not sue me” disclaimers, it’s an entertaining, sometimes unsettling journey down the internet’s current rabbit holes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Format Revamp and Conspiracy Corner Disclaimer

• Timestamps: 00:31–04:22
  • Shane reiterates extensive disclaimers about discussing conspiracy theories, emphasizing that these are widely circulated ideas, not facts:

    "All of these are theories. None of these are facts. We are just talking about popular theories that are currently happening in the world." (03:00, Host)

  • The group leans in on having fun with the conversation, not endorsing harmful or outlandish views.
  • Notable moment: The team jokes about becoming “those crazy people talking about the crazy things” but deciding it’s fine as long as they keep disclaimers.

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2. Palm Beach Pete: The Epstein Lookalike Theory

• Timestamps: 04:22–11:24
• Breakdown:
  • Viral videos surfaced of “Palm Beach Pete”—a man uncannily resembling Jeffrey Epstein—which led to conspiracy theories that Epstein faked his death and re-emerged as “PvP.”
  • Analyses include voice comparisons, tooth mapping, and tattoos—plus skeptical perspectives:

    “If you showed me those videos and said, which one’s Pete and which one’s Epstein, couldn’t tell you.” (07:47, Passenger 2)

  • Shane and co-hosts don’t believe the theory, instead viewing it as a viral distraction—especially with how social media reframes even dark stories into meme-able, lighthearted content.

    “Is this a distraction similar to when celebrities use body doubles to trick the paparazzi?” (11:00, Host)

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3. Simulation Theory and the Digital Fruit Fly

• Timestamps: 16:08–21:47
• Breakdown:
  • The team discusses a real-life experiment: scientists uploaded a fruit fly’s brain into a simulated world.
  • Existential horror: empathy for the fly and what this means for human consciousness.

    “The thought of him not knowing that he’s not real is so crazy to me.” (17:57, Host)

  • Rapid advancements in AI generating news led to discussions about “dead internet” and the chilling fake-ness of influencer content.
• Notable pop culture parallels: “Upload” and “Westworld” are invoked.

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4. AI Deepfakes, Dead Internet, and Social Media Reality

• Timestamps: 21:47–27:03
• Breakdown:
  • Shane shares first-hand experimentation with AI avatars—how terrifyingly convincing deepfakes now are.
  • Explores AI-generated influencer reels and ads, the homogenization of content, and the blurring of authenticity online.

    “AI is putting out its own news stories… I literally scrolled for 10 minutes, and every single person was fake.” (18:14, Host)

  • Prediction: Value of real-life, in-person interaction is rising, especially among younger generations.

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5. The School-Prison Industrial Complex Theory

• Timestamps: 27:03–33:49
• Breakdown:
  • Viral conspiracy claims school infrastructure was designed to manufacture obedient workers—not thinkers—a process allegedly started by Rockefeller.
  • The group fact-checks (the quote is not directly sourced) but reflects on visual/functional similarities between schools and prisons: layout, cafeteria food, regimented routines.

    “Why else would it look like cat food?” (43:00, Host, later in the episode but echoing the food/mechanisms theme)

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6. Lab-Grown Food, Product Discontinuations, and Corporate Interests

• Timestamps: 34:10–43:20, 67:15–72:29
• Breakdown:
  • Simulated blueberries in Costco bagels (no real fruit, just processed “blueberry” ingredients), widely covered as a “food conspiracy.”
  • Update on the Reese's recipe controversy and Hershey’s response—group discusses corporate strategy, referencing Coca-Cola’s infamous “New Coke” switcheroo:

    “It worked for Coca-Cola… now we got everybody in the world talking about how bad it is. We’ll take a hit… then bring back the classic and boom.” (38:00, Jared)

  • Discussion of lab-grown chocolate and Oreos; the future of “farmed” vs “manufactured” food.
  • Later, Jared dives into the phenomenon of products that disappear because they “solve the problem” (see [67:15]).

    “A cable that never breaks threatens that cycle.” (68:10, Narrator)

  • Introduction of the “Stanley Meyer water car” conspiracy and discussion of scientists “disappearing” after breakthrough inventions.

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7. Lucky Charms and the Cat Food Theory

• Timestamps: 40:32–43:20
• Lighthearted segment explores why Lucky Charms cereal resembles cat food, riffing on the idea that General Mills reused pet food machinery for cereal production.
• Joke proposal: tricking co-hosts into eating cat food disguised as Lucky Charms.

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8. Color Theory in Pop Music: The Pink & Blue Conspiracy

• Timestamps: 47:39–51:33
• Breakdown:
  • Viral content suggests top female pop stars use pink-and-blue aesthetics to evoke femininity, trust, and nostalgia—boosting their connection with fans.

    “Pink and blue keeps popping up because it’s the easiest way for an artist to immediately establish themselves as both feminine and trustworthy.” (49:15, Narrator 3)

  • Shane explores purple branding (Olivia Rodrigo), notes new albums following this palette, and links it to nostalgia marketing (e.g., Dua Lipa’s “Future Nostalgia”).

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9. News Anchor “Scripted” Reality & The Media Copy-Paste Phenomenon

• Timestamps: 52:00–56:14
• Breakdown:
  • Explores actual instances where U.S. news anchors repeated identical scripts—first in 2018, with ongoing examples emerging since—raising questions about reality engineering and media consolidation.

    “Why would you make more than one news publication say the exact same thing…it makes it all feel…” (56:14, Passenger 2)

  • Shane shares recent experiences of seeing multiple news videos using the same scripts on different local stations for seemingly unrelated stories.

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10. Self-Driving Cars, Surveillance, and the Kill Switch Theory

• Timestamps: 56:14–63:22
• Breakdown:
  • Alarm over how modern cars capture and sell user data—including personal health and (reportedly) sexual activity tracked via in-car tech.
  • Waymo (driverless car) mishaps highlight safety and ethical concerns; viral rumors that Filipino workers remotely “rescue” stuck Waymos, like playing GTA.
  • Jared brings up the dangerous potential for a centralized “kill switch” in self-driving vehicle fleets—a readily abusable point of control during emergencies or, in theory, government interventions.

    “Imagine being on the freeway and every car stops, including yours…” (62:18, Jared)

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11. CIA Surveillance, Heartbeat Tracking, and Scientists Gone Missing

• Timestamps: 64:41–72:29
• Breakdown:
  • Spencer shares the “Ghost Murmur” rumor—a technology that detects an individual’s heartbeat from miles away to rescue a downed pilot, sparking debate on pervasive biometric surveillance.

    “They have the technology to hear the heartbeat… and have this profile on the guy so they know the unique specification of his heart rate.” (65:00, Spencer)

  • Jared details a rash of mysterious deaths and disappearances among NASA and Los Alamos scientists, noting nine recent bizarre cases possibly linked to sensitive research or suppression of breakthroughs.

    “Do they know something that they shouldn’t know?… Are they just so valuable for us that it makes them dangerous for somebody else…” (72:12, Jared)

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12. AI Training, DoorDash Tasks, and the Future of Work

• Timestamps: 72:29–74:43
• Breakdown:
  • DoorDash now paying “Dashers” to record themselves doing chores, using this first-person footage to train AI and humanoid robots for the next generation.

    “You’re just training the AI and the robots to take this job very soon.” (74:04, Host)

  • General sense of unease over the trajectory of AI and robotics, especially given viral videos of malfunctioning/harmful robots.
  • [Group expresses skepticism and humor about a world rapidly automating itself out of jobs and, potentially, control.]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Disclaimers Galore:

  “We’re not saying we believe any of this, and we’re just trying to have a good time around the conspiracy table.” (03:54, Host)

• Palm Beach Pete vs Epstein:

  “If you showed me those video[s] and said, which one’s Pete and which one’s Epstein, couldn’t tell you.” (07:47, Passenger 2)

• AI Anxiety:

  “I 100% believed it... and then I saw that real... and they were all AI... And I was just like—I scrolled for 10 minutes, and every single person was fake.” (18:14, Host)

• Reality Check:

  "It would be weird if there was a mole, like, previous. You know, it's. It's okay." (08:53, Co-host 2—on the Epstein/Pete tattoo and mole evidence)

• School vs Prison:

  “[W]hy does Lucky Charms look like cat food? …Why else would it look like cat food?” (43:00, Host)

• Lab-Grown Chocolate:

  “Lab grown chocolate is now a thing. Oreo, Cadbury and Toblerone are already funding overseas biotech companies producing it…” (39:31, Passenger 2)

• Nostalgia Marketing in Pop:

  “Pink and blue keeps popping up because it's the easiest way for an artist to immediately establish themselves as both feminine and trustworthy.” (49:15, Narrator 3)

• News Clone Scandal:

  “So I was watching that clip... and then on my sidebar... another news clip... it was the exact same script. I was like—ah! It’s still happening. It freaked me out.” (56:01, Host)

• Heartbeats and Surveillance:

  “They have this technology… to hear the guy’s heartbeat from miles away.” (65:00, Spencer)

• AI-Powered Chores:

  “Any job is good… but you’re just training the AI…and the robots to take this job very soon.” (74:04, Host)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:31—Opening disclaimer and format explanation
• 04:22—Palm Beach Pete/Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy
• 16:08—Fruit fly brain in the Matrix; simulation theory
• 21:47—Dead Internet: AI influencers, fake reels
• 27:03—School as prison theory; Rockefeller quote
• 34:10—Simulated blueberries in Costco bagels
• 39:45—Lab grown chocolate and the Reese’s controversy
• 40:32—Lucky Charms/cat food theory
• 47:39—Color theory in pop music (pink & blue conspiracy)
• 52:00—Scripted news anchors and repeating stories
• 56:14—Car surveillance, data-tracking, and Waymo deep dive
• 62:24—Self-driving car “kill switch” theory
• 64:41—CIA “ghost murmur,” scientist disappearances
• 72:29—DoorDash Tasks and the AI data gold rush
• 74:43–end—AI robots and existential dread, closing thoughts

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Closing Sentiments

Shane and the team wrap up with a call for listener feedback on the revamped format, musing on the odd comfort of in-person reality amidst a rapidly “virtualizing” world. The core message: question everything, joke about almost anything, and don’t forget to check for simulated blueberries in your bagels.

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For listeners who missed the episode:

This summary covers:

• All the major conspiracy theories and social commentaries explored
• Key pop culture and tech insights
• The emotional arc: from deadpan jokes to genuine existential musings
• Scattered moments of “oh my god” viral video reactions and meme-able observations

Skipping: Ads, sponsorships, and unrelated banter as requested!

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Stay safe out there. Avoid robots, question the news, and maybe check twice before trusting Lucky Charms or “blueberry” bagels.

Transcript

[Jared]

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[Host]

So then I started thinking, okay, well what's the theory? Why is everybody wanting us to have self driving cars? Like, why is it such a thing we've talked about a little bit in the past? So then I saw this.

[Jared]

Oh my God.

[Host]

Stop the car.

[Passenger 1]

I'm not.

[Host]

I'm never riding with y' all again.

[Passenger 2]

Oh my God.

[Jared]

Wow.

[Host]

Chairs. Hey, what's up, you guys? Okay, I'm going to start this episode off with a very big disclaimer. And I thought I gave enough disclaimers in the last episode.

[Co-host 1]

Like, I feel like I. I went

[Host]

overboard on disclaimers and it still didn't work. So when we kind of revamped the show to do more like just conspiracy theories, I got really excited because I do love this and I love talking about stuff like this. But part of me did get nervous because I started remembering, oh yeah, now I know why I stopped doing this.

[Co-host 1]

And it's because talking about stuff like

[Host]

this, even with disclaimers, gets a little bit tricky. So basically the last episode went through hell. I'm not even gonna get fully into it, but it literally was like someone did not want that episode up. And it was becoming.

[Spencer]

That's kind of suspicious.

[Co-host 1]

It was, it was getting so crazy.

[Host]

Like, video goes up. I'm excited about it, proud of it. I'm like, oh, I like that episode. And then it was like, boom. It got hit with something. I was like, wait, what fixed it? Boom. Basically, we had to remove like a whole chunk out of the video. Yeah, two actually, from two different people. And it was like, wait, why? I've never had that happen before. Like, I had to remove two chunks out of the video. Oddly enough, one of them was about

[Spencer]

the reptiles, which it was.

[Jared]

I was like, no one wants us talking about reptiles.

[Co-host 1]

I was like, noted, never again. No, I'm kidding.

[Host]

But I mean, it really was scary. But I'm not going to stop doing this show. I'm not going to stop talking about these theories. So before we start this episode, all of these are theories. None of these are Facts. We are just talking about popular theories that are currently happening in the world. They are being talked about on the news. They are literally Talked about on TikTok Instagram Reels. Anytime you open your phone, people are talking about these things. We're not talking about, like, things that are super crazy or super problematic. Especially in the last episode, I was so nervous to talk about chemtrails because I personally am like, I don't believe that this is what they're doing. Right. But it's one of the biggest conspiracies of all time. I want to talk about it. I want to have a conversation. I think it's fun. And I gave a whole thing about what it really is. And even then, it still kind of had some issues. So going into this episode, I don't want to, like, not talk about stuff, though. But I'm going to give even more disclaimers and I'm going to say, like, none of these are facts. And also, like, I don't want to turn this show into were the crazy people talking about the crazy things. But also, isn't it kind of fun to talk about some of the crazy stuff, even if it's crazy and be like, we don't believe this. But yeah, right.

[Co-host 2]

We can have a discussion for fun. That's what people do.

[Host]

I go on Instagram and I see a reel that has like 10 million views. Okay, but talking about whatever we were talking about, and they're fine, but we get, like, our shit removed. And I'm just like this. I know, you know, but listen, it's all for fun. It's all entertainment. We're not saying we believe any of this, and we're just trying to have a good time around the conspiracy table. Is that what we're calling this now?

[Spencer]

I don't know.

[Jared]

I think so. I think that's a good name. And it's not like we're making anything up from our own viewpoints. We're really just joining the conversation about these topics.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

Okay. Our first theory disclaimer. I do not believe that this is real, but I do have a theory on what it might actually be. We'll get to that later. Have you guys heard of Palm Beach, Pete?

[Jared]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

No.

[Co-host 2]

Jeffrey Epstein.

[Co-host 1]

Allegedly.

[Jared]

There's a lot of things I've seen online where they do comparison photos or a little bit of investigative journalism behind the guy. And I just think what an incredible disguise it would be if you were, you know, someone who plain sight. There's already a lot of mystery shrouded around where you. How you went off, basically. And to come back as a personality that's on podcasts, it's like killing it. It's living the life. Well played. If that's the case, I don't condone

[Host]

it, but I mean, it's fascinating. And if you don't know what it is. Let me bring you up to speed and bring Chris up to speed. Cause he hasn't heard of Palm Beach Pete.

[Spencer]

Um, this is the first thing that went viral.

[Host]

Epstein is a lie.

[Jared]

Epstein is a lie.

[Host]

I mean, the guy in the video that everybody thought was Epstein ended up releasing a reaction, which I will say is weird. Cause I think he's wearing the same outfit and it almost looks like he released it at the same time, which is pretty crazy.

[Palm Beach Pete]

I'm not Jeffrey Epstein. I'm Palm Beach Pete. Some dude randomly filmed me while I was driving on I95, unbeknownst to me. And the next thing I know, I'm a viral sensation. Pretty crazy. I want to thank everybody for the positive comments I got from saying, I'm not Jeffrey Epstein. I'm just Palm Beach Pete going to play some tennis today.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah, that's a pretty great name he's created.

[Spencer]

I know. He says it every time. He says, I'm not Epstein, I'm Palm Beach Pete.

[Host]

Can I ask a question about that? Okay, we have more to get to, but before we get to this question. So was he Palm Beach Pete before that?

[Spencer]

This is part of the creator.

[Passenger 2]

No, he was Epstein before.

[Spencer]

This is part of why people are weirded out, where it's like, it feels like he just came up with this. If it was like, genius, then he deserves his Instagram page, like, was created, like, right when this happened. So it feels like that's why. That's why it's like a joke. That's why the theories are so, like, real. It's because it's like, wait, like, okay, we have another video.

[Host]

It goes with my drink theory.

[Co-host 2]

I'm shook today.

[Host]

Literally viral moments.

[Co-host 2]

Well, yes. He probably was going about his everyday life and every grocery store he was in, they were probably like, you really look like Jeffrey Epstein. And then he probably was more scared than that.

[Jared]

Yeah.

[Co-host 2]

And then he probably got the light bulb idea of like, oh, I'm gonna hire like a 20 year old to be like.

[Spencer]

So one of the key things of a liar of Epstein is that, whoa,

[Jared]

that's Palm Beach Pete.

[Spencer]

Now I know he looks like Palm Beach Pete. This is Jeffrey Epstein.

[Passenger 2]

Wait, now that you show this video,

[Co-host 2]

Palm Beach Pete needs a Little more sun damage.

[Passenger 2]

That's the same person.

[Co-host 1]

Here.

[Spencer]

It says, listen to how they pronounce chief, how they pronounce the Fs.

[Jared]

As your firm, Mr. Edwards and Mr. Jaffe has been described by the US Attorney as perpetrating one of the largest frauds in South Florida's history.

[Host]

Did you say largest fart in fraud.

[Spencer]

Fraud.

[Co-host 2]

It's crazy, right? Palm Beach.

[Spencer]

I did one of the largest farts. Okay.

[Co-host 2]

And then campaigning in Hollywood to play that is.

[Spencer]

This is Palm Beach Pete.

[Co-host 2]

PvP.

[Spencer]

And then this is PvP. Listen to what it.

[Co-host 1]

Listen.

[Palm Beach Pete]

And some knucklehead films me.

[Jared]

Stop.

[Co-host 2]

He's doing this on purpose.

[Passenger 2]

I need you to know. Gun to my head. If you showed me those video and said, which one's Pete and which one's Epstein, couldn't tell you.

[Co-host 2]

So he either is gunning to play Epstein or he is Epstein.

[Spencer]

I know.

[Host]

That's why it's so.

[Palm Beach Pete]

I'm Beach Pete from sunny Florida. Not a cloud in the sky. I'm off to play some tennis. I'm not Jeffrey Epstein. I'm Palm Beach Pete.

[Host]

I can talk to. It makes no difference where I am.

[Spencer]

In fact, I'm still talking to the

[Host]

same person if I was at my home in Palm beach, but I'm here in jail.

[Spencer]

It's crazy.

[Co-host 1]

Disclaimer.

[Host]

I know, I know.

[Co-host 1]

I'm not saying we believe you, but also. What? Ryland.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, we're looking at PvP.

[Spencer]

Well, if we're. We're gonna go further down the rabbit hole. So people have mapped their teeth.

[Passenger 2]

Stop.

[Host]

Stop it.

[Narrator 1]

Whoa.

[Co-host 2]

The Internet's crazy.

[Spencer]

So people are. This is another thing. This is another one of the big things that people claim.

[Host]

It's identical.

[Co-host 2]

It's him.

[Spencer]

The teeth are extremely similar on the

[Co-host 2]

bottom, which is which. Oh, Pombi. So he's now gained a mole.

[Jared]

That was the only disguise.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, it would be weirder. It would be weirder if there was a mole, like, previous. You know, it's. It's okay.

[Spencer]

Right, right, right. But then if we want to go even further down. So this is the video of Palm beach beat. See this little tattoo he's got on his arm right here?

[Host]

Yes.

[Spencer]

Well, actually, you know what's funny is there's another guy who has.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, my God.

[Host]

I need to go.

[Spencer]

So he's on his arm in the exact same place.

[Co-host 2]

So he's really playing into this. If he isn't him, there's too many coincidences here.

[Spencer]

What the hell?

[Co-host 2]

And so is he, like, trying to do something meta like Spider man on Hollywood Boulevard.

[Host]

I don't want to get.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, is that meta?

[Spencer]

I think that's just the guy dressed like Spider Man.

[Co-host 2]

No, I know, but he's like, playing the real life version of. It's not like, as on the nose.

[Spencer]

This video about this kind of covers some of the stuff, but it's like. So he went on tmz, and even the TMZ people were like, here, I'll just wait.

[Jared]

In 2019, you're saying you lived in New York City?

[Host]

Yes.

[Jared]

So you've been everywhere.

[Co-host 1]

Everywhere you go.

[Narrator 1]

All they were doing was asking Palm Beach Pete where he was living in certain years.

[Narrator 2]

Every single.

[Narrator 1]

He was telling them he was living in cities where Jeffrey was living at the same time. Him granting this interview with TMZ is

[Narrator 3]

part of basically his world tour of

[Narrator 1]

trying to prove that he is not

[Narrator 3]

the man everyone is saying.

[Palm Beach Pete]

Morning, everybody. This is Palm Beach Pete. I'm not Jeffrey Epstein. I'm just Palm Beach Pete. I'm still not Jeffrey.

[Jared]

I think the deeper underlying purpose. It's obviously not him.

[Spencer]

Yeah, obvious.

[Jared]

But I think. Listen to the tone of this conversation right now. That involves his name.

[Host]

Yes.

[Jared]

It shifted kind of the whole. When it gets brought up, maybe Palm Beach Pete is the more trendy topic to bring about. Like, we're all laughing like, oh, my God. I'm using, like, we're.

[Co-host 2]

It's fun now.

[Jared]

Now we're celebrating this guy in a way, you know, and it's pretty interesting because it takes the mind to drift a little bit.

[Co-host 2]

That is crazy.

[Host]

I. So here's what I wrote down. Once again, I do not believe that Jeffrey Epstein is alive. I think he's dead. But I did write this down theory. Is this a distraction similar to when celebrities use body doubles to trick the paparazzi? Once again, I'm not saying I believe that, but it is interesting that we've now turned one of the biggest, like, monsters of all time into, like, a hilarious guy that we want on the podcast.

[Spencer]

Yeah, no, that's a really good point.

[Jared]

Shout out to Palm Beach Pete, who's obviously a very unique character. He's an original nothing but what he says he is. He's not a bad guy. Palm Beach Pete.

[Host]

Peepee Peach.

[Spencer]

Jesus.

[Narrator 4]

Whoa.

[Co-host 1]

Okay.

[Host]

That trip from the podcast to add

[Co-host 1]

Dimension is more working title.

[Host]

But you know what's even scarier than disappearing from the podcast and going to an unknown area? Not having a website.

[Co-host 1]

Stay with me.

[Host]

Don't leave. Let me break this down. Do you have a small business? Do you have something you're trying to promote. Do you just have a bunch of different social medias and you don't and you kind of want to have a hub where you can put them all in the same place? Are you an actor and you're looking to send casting directors your resume, your demo reels? Do you make bread? And if so, why aren't you selling people the recipe on how to make the bread? You could do tutorials. There's so many things you could do if you had your own website. And I know it sounds really complicated and hard, but. But it is not. And Squarespace makes it so easy to create your own website. That's right. Today's episode is sponsored by Squarespace. Squarespace is an all in one website platform designed to help you stand out and succeed online. Whether you're starting out or scaling your business, Squarespace gives you everything you need to claim your domain, showcase your offerings with a professional website, grow your brand and get paid all in one place. And they have so many different features that will help you expand your business or promote yourself. Chris actually used Squarespace to create his website. Go check out his site. You can see all of his work, all of his beauty, all of his amazingness. And was it easy to create your site?

[Passenger 2]

It was extremely easy. And I'm horrible with these sort of things. I could have never done it without Squarespace. Truly.

[Co-host 1]

Yes.

[Host]

It's so easy. It's drag and drop. You can personalize your website, make it look however you want, but the way that it works is very, very simple. And they have so many different features. They have email campaigns, which is huge. If you want to talk to your audience or promote a new product that you have. Email campaigns is the best way to do. But you can reach all of your customers, let them know what's going on, what new products you have. You also can sell content. So if you want to sell video series on acting, coaching or bread making. Do you make bread?

[Spencer]

I have.

[Host]

I feel like you're a sourdough boy.

[Spencer]

Sourdough Spencer.

[Co-host 1]

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[Host]

and sell that content. I'd pay for it. They also have a lot of great features for if you're a small business or if you're a nail tech or a hairstylist, you could literally book your clients. You could create your calendar, make a site to show all of your work. Squarespace is so easy and they're giving you guys a very special. All you gotta do is go to squarespace.com grower for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch. Use offer Code grower to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. That's squarespace.com grower. So thank you so much, Squarespace, for sponsoring. And also check out Spencer's soon to

[Co-host 2]

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[Spencer]

I loaf it.

[Jared]

It's the yeast you could do.

[Co-host 1]

Whoa.

[Spencer]

It's just bread puns.

[Host]

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[Co-host 1]

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[Narrator 1]

Girl. Winter is so last season. And now spring's got you looking at pictures of tank tops with hungry eyes. Your algorithm is feeding you cutoffs. You're thirsty for the sun on your shoulders that perfect hang on the patio Sundress. Those sandals you can wear all day and all night. And you've had enough of shopping from your couch. Done. Hoping it looks anything like the picture when you tear open that envelope. It's time for a little in person spring treat. It's time for a trip to Ross. Work your magic.

[Host]

Okay, this next thing might seem funny, stupid, and like, why are we even talking about this?

[Jared]

What a joke.

[Host]

But the more I fell down the rabbit hole of what this actually means. And I'm sure Jared's gonna have something to say about this because I feel like we've talked about this before. This is a video I just saw where. Well, let me just show you.

[Narrator 5]

Scientists have literally put a fly into the matrix. Scientists have uploaded a brain of a fruit fly into a computer. And now it lives free, freely in its own simulation. Look at this little guy. He's just there washing his hands, living his best life. It has no idea at all that it's in a digital world.

[Host]

Look at this, look at this.

[Narrator 5]

He's about to eat digital food. Oh, look, it's so tasty, right, bro? This is wild. The way they demoed this was using 139,000 neurons and 50 million synapses from a real fruit fly brain. Built a neural model, Plug the sensory inputs, give it a physics simulated body and environment. Just like that. The brain performs its natural behaviors of a fruit fly. But it's in a digital world and has no idea that it's in a digital world.

[Host]

No way.

[Spencer]

No.

[Narrator 5]

That's literally the matrix. So the crazy thing to think about, if you really want to think about it, is what if that's us right now? Or what if it's something that could happen to us?

[Co-host 2]

So a fresh new take on the simulation theory.

[Passenger 2]

Do you know the show upload?

[Host]

Yeah, I haven't seen it, but I've heard about it.

[Passenger 2]

But yeah, it's like when you're reaching the end of your life, you can put your consciousness into, like this until I can. If you have enough money, I think you can like pay to put your, like, consciousness and live on forever in a thing. And it's. It feels a lot like that.

[Host]

And that's real, that right?

[Spencer]

Yeah, it's real.

[Host]

My brain exploded in the physical world when I watch this because I was like, okay, so the fly doesn't know that. I could throw up thinking about that. Like, the thought of him not knowing him,

[Co-host 1]

him not knowing that he's not

[Host]

real is so crazy to me. So that's scary. But also like, why are scientists doing this? And if they're testing it on a fly, what's next? And then once they get to humans, what's the point? And then I read. But I don't know if this was AI or not, because a lot of news lately, I'll actually research it. And it's literally AI. It does not exist.

[Co-host 2]

AI is putting out its own news stories.

[Host]

Yes.

[Co-host 2]

What? I thought we were inside of the world where publications are having staff be like, AI Write this article and then publishing it. But I didn't know we were in a world where AI is public cating them.

[Host]

We're in full dead Internet mode. Like, they're. Sorry, I'm getting on a tangent, but I also saw the same reel over and over again. It was like, first it was a girl, and she was just like, have you guys ever wondered why? Blah, blah, blah. And I was next this guy. Have you guys ever wondered why? And I was like, what, 10 reels later, the same. The same script. And then I looked into it, and they were all AI and they were all made to promote some product, and it's not real. And I was just like. I literally scrolled for 10 minutes, and every single person was fake. So, Jared, what do you think about this fly thing? Where is this leading us?

[Jared]

I mean, a couple of things that come to mind right away is, one, is there a mortality for this fly now? Because flies only live, like, two days, right? So in this.

[Co-host 2]

Are you kidding me?

[Jared]

Metaverse matrix situation, is there an expiration date on the fly? Or, you know, is it just going to live on forever? That's pretty interesting. But also, maybe you could speed up the process of building intelligence. Like, I don't know if you ever watch Westworld. Have you ever seen the show? But the whole premise is there's this amusement park for adults where the whole shtick is, everybody within this amusement park is a robot, but highly realistic. I mean, you would never know if this was a robot that, you know, was among us. It would look just like a person. Even in the show, the big reveal is always which one is a robot. But one of the things is the robots, if they get killed per se, they go to a doctor or engineer that fixes them back up, makes them whole again. But there's a dial that could raise the consciousness, the intelligence, the emotional intelligence. And in, like, one of the episodes, a lady had the ability to do her own gauging and put it to, like, all the way up. And it was almost like she couldn't even fathom what she was even thinking about in that moment. It was just, like, too intense. But what if they're able to put a consciousness in there, dial it up to that point, and then decipher exactly what's happening? It might just be a way to harvest information.

[Host]

I don't know.

[Jared]

It's all very much like, but what is the point? There has to be a point to it.

[Host]

I kind of think maybe. So I started thinking about it, and I was like, well, what would be the point of this, right? Then I got thinking. Well, Sam Altman, right? The guy who created OpenAI. Well, if I'm his team and even him, I'm like, well, what if you just put my consciousness into this thing? If I'm unable to run the company or whatever, he'll do it. It's the same brain, the same mind, the same everything. Like that to me. And then it's like, then that becomes, well, what if we just do that for all of the smart people in the world? And then what if we do that for all of our bosses? And what if we do that where now? What if we do that for ourselves and we don't have to go to work? Our consciousness goes to work, and then we get to hang out and play? Like, is that where we're going?

[Jared]

But I even think, like, you say, like, Sam Altman's team, they're able to digitally quantify his consciousness and put it in this matrix program. Can more than one of those exist of Sam Altman and be accessed independently? Because if so, because then Sam Altman could say, like, well, hey, if you want me to run your company, too, for like, 10% of your company, I'll let you download my consciousness into your server.

[Host]

It's like, you say, like, I wish I clone myself. Like, when you have too much work to do and you're like, oh, I wish I could clone myself so I get all this work done. What if you can?

[Jared]

You could rent a clone, Maybe digitally clone yourself. Maybe you could rent one for, like, 50 bucks a day. That'll be a service in the future. I buy. I got to do some shit I don't want to do.

[Host]

Weber.

[Jared]

There you go. Yeah, I'm in.

[Host]

Okay, well, speaking of cloning ourselves, this. Okay, this goes along the whole thing we were talking about of, like, dead Internet and how nothing on Instagram or TikTok is real anymore. Just a theory. Let me show you this reel that popped up that made me question everything. Here's another one I did for Breeze.

[Spencer]

Create a Facebook ad for a soda

[Narrator 4]

alternative called Brez, pronounced breeze.

[Passenger 1]

You all, I cannot stop talking about this drink. It's called Brez, spelled B, R, E, Z, but you say it like breeze. And it is my new favorite alternative soda. This flavor is lemon elderflower, super light,

[Narrator 1]

kind of floral, a little citrusy. It has microdose mush.

[Host]

And she's talking all about the product.

[Spencer]

Like, I didn't include anything about it.

[Host]

It's able to find it.

[Jared]

These videos are absolutely insane.

[Host]

This is that girl is not real and the product isn't.

[Co-host 2]

Even if I was scrolling, I'd believe it.

[Host]

Me, I 100% believed it. And then I saw. So I saw that real and look how far it's come. So two years ago in September of 2024, we did our whole, like, AI conspiracy video, which is so crazy we should react to it or something, because, yeah, it's insane. Everything we talked about has come true and has been worse.

[Jared]

Like, remember, that could be rougher than disclaimer. Everything we talk about becomes true and it gets worse. Disclaimer. We do not believe any of this stuff.

[Host]

None of it happened. So look at Ryland's fake avatar that we created just two years ago and how not very realistic it is.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, Shane, your instant avatar is ready. Try creating videos with it. Also, click the feedback button to share what you think. Hope you enjoy.

[Co-host 1]

That was kind of like him.

[Co-host 2]

I think it's pretty good.

[Co-host 1]

It's not, but it gives you that.

[Host]

Oh, it's AI, right?

[Jared]

I mean, but now AI is so good, dude, you could just put in a prompt to be like, hey, be me acting this part perfectly and send it. Can you just send that in as

[Host]

an audition for auditions? Yeah, don't give him ideas that.

[Spencer]

Wow, that really unlocks something.

[Jared]

Imagine there's going to be a movie like, hey, we casted all the people. Where the hell are they?

[Passenger 2]

I was thinking of, you know, celebrities do cameo.

[Spencer]

Oh, my God. That is actually genius. Just a theory. New theory, new theory.

[Host]

So this is a clip. We used Ryland's avatar to make a clip. And here it is.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, guys. All of my vlogs have been a lie. Me and Shane aren't together. I don't even live in this house, and we rent the animas for filming.

[Co-host 1]

It's honestly not that bad.

[Co-host 2]

I kind of want to post it out of context.

[Spencer]

I remember it took so long for us to get a sentence that was bad, but also they would let us make him say because they wouldn't let us say any swear words at all. It was so annoying.

[Host]

Well, we tried it yesterday because I was like, oh, do we still have Ryland's avatar? And so Spence, like, yeah, we have it. I'm like, all right, let's see if it's gotten better. I'll let you guys be the judge.

[Co-host 2]

Hey, girlies. Just wanted to pop on here to let you know that Shane was right. During our last fight, I was totally in the wrong and I wanted to tell him, sorry, Shane. I am actually sorry, Shane.

[Jared]

I am actually Sorry.

[Spencer]

Okay. I will say one thing. I asked Ryland to give a baseline video for this, and I've never heard him talk more like a robot.

[Co-host 2]

I think it's because he said you need to pause after every sentence. And so then I was like, hey, my name is Ryland.

[Spencer]

That's how we talk.

[Co-host 2]

How else would I talk? And pause at the end.

[Spencer]

You talk normal and then you let it leave a gap.

[Co-host 2]

I can't do that.

[Co-host 1]

I didn't know what you were doing,

[Passenger 2]

but I heard him recording this and I was like, why is Rylan talking like a robot?

[Spencer]

So I think it's a little bit. I don't know. I think I'm bad at AI. It's a little bit of user error for me and Ryland together.

[Host]

Now, speaking of all of that, and please don't get any ideas for this. Then I saw this. Change your background, change your outfit. So, okay, that was crazy to me because her background literally changed into a completely different one. And it didn't look green screened. It didn't look, like, weird or fake. It looked 100 real. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. And I was like, how many people could you trick with that? Then I saw this one. That really takes it up a notch.

[Passenger 1]

The barrier of entry for high quality content is now so low because of AI. You don't need a perfect background, perfect makeup, or full setup before you hit record. I'll show you how to do this in less than 30 seconds.

[Host]

And I'm like, nobody's going to do this, right?

[Co-host 2]

Like, I mean, that's what we thought about Face Tune.

[Host]

Right in her video, she put comment AI to get a full step by step guide. 15.1 thousand comments. And they are all AI, AI, AI, AI, AI.

[Jared]

And they're all AI, AI. Come on.

[Host]

Same thing with the location one.

[Co-host 1]

That.

[Host]

That girl got 33.9 thousand comments. And it's all people. It said comment how to learn how to change your background.

[Spencer]

Clear the same formula. Yeah.

[Jared]

I do think, though, all of this is going to result in there being a lot more value in being outside and interacting with real people. Like, at some point people are going to want actual human interaction. And how can you guarantee you're getting that online?

[Spencer]

It's a trend people are seeing with, like, really young people now is that they, like, they value, like, in person stuff way more. Like a concert is like, there's a reason concert tickets are so expensive too. Is like kids are, like, willing to pay a lot of money because, like, this is where we actually can live real life.

[Host]

Well, speaking of real life, there's nothing more real than school.

[Co-host 1]

Guys, this is not a brand deal for school.

[Jared]

I'd be open to a sponsorship from school.

[Co-host 2]

Me too.

[Spencer]

Hey, we're partnering with school.

[Host]

Remember how upset.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, why did I look at you? You didn't know me when I was six. Remember much I love.

[Jared]

Wow.

[Co-host 2]

You just can't remember life without me.

[Co-host 1]

I can't. I did see this, and we had.

[Host]

Jared has broken this down before, but in case you haven't seen that episode, I want to show this again. Once again, disclaimer. I am not saying any of this is true. I am not anti school. I think school's great.

[Co-host 2]

No, we're sponsored by school.

[Host]

So, yes, I'm not anti school. I'm not anti teacher. I love teachers. But I thought this was interesting, so I wanted to talk about it just because I think it's kind of entertaining and fascinating. So here we go.

[Narrator 2]

John D. Rockefeller was one of the richest men in the entire world, from the oil industry. And in 1903, he funded the General Education Board with a famous quote of saying, I don't want a nation of thinkers. I want a nation of workers. The General Education Board's main objective was to create schools that focused on obeying authority, following rules, memorizing, not thinking, and breeding you to work nine to five jobs for elite corporations. That is why we see the mundane subjects in school of things like math, English and other subjects. And I mean, even look at our schools, they look like prison.

[Co-host 2]

Why do you think I never memorized my times tables?

[Host]

Okay, so obviously that's like crazy, right? Like, oh, wow, that's so interesting. I was looking into it. I will say the quote from John D. Rockefeller that said, I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers. Is not proven. It's an unproven quote. Nobody can prove that he said that. Right. I want to say that, but it got me down this rabbit hole. That was kind of funny. Of like people comparing jail to school.

[Co-host 1]

And it's like, it's crazy. Okay, first of all, let me just

[Host]

show you this video and then I'll show you more examples. Why would you put a kid in

[Jared]

a room behind a desk when the sun is out for their whole entire childhood?

[Co-host 1]

Not put him in front of or

[Jared]

ocean or anything that inspires them. Dim lights. If you notice schools, jails, and hospitals all look exactly the same. Why wouldn't it? Something inspired.

[Co-host 1]

So that video turned out to be an ad for a homeschool

[Jared]

Good. Marketing, good.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, got me. But. Okay, so let me take you down the list of. Of things that look the same in prison as they do in school. And it's pretty fun and sad.

[Passenger 2]

Are we sponsored by this home school?

[Spencer]

We're sponsored by jail and school.

[Host]

So authoritarian structure, both in school and in prison. Address code, both in school and in prison. Emphasis on silence and order, both in school and in prison. Negative reinforcement, like detention.

[Spencer]

Ooh, yeah.

[Host]

Walk in lines.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. Down the hall.

[Spencer]

That is true.

[Host]

Set times enforced for walking, eating, et cetera. So then there's a bunch of picture examples. So look at the food

[Co-host 1]

with the little trays. Very similar to prison. Right?

[Host]

So then I started thinking, wait a minute. This is. This is where I was, you know, creating little theories. I was like, what if it is the same food?

[Co-host 1]

Well, I asked Google, and Google said yes. Prisons and public schools often use the same massive food service providers and distributors

[Host]

such as Amarick, Cisco, and Sodexco. They often have the same.

[Passenger 2]

So it's literally the same food.

[Co-host 1]

Allegedly. Just.

[Spencer]

I feel like I have a memory from my childhood of this. Of, like, uh, oh, we found out the elementary school is using the same food as the prison or something like that. I feel like I have a memory of that being, like, local news. And everyone's like, well, yeah.

[Co-host 1]

I mean, then I started thinking about, like, recess, you know, like, you're a

[Spencer]

kid out in the yard

[Co-host 1]

in prison, you kind of get a recess or you get to walk around the little quad area. It's just like, there is a lot of similarities.

[Host]

And then I was like, I wonder if the Simpsons has ever, like, predicted this, because they predict everything.

[Co-host 1]

And I literally googled Simpsons prison, and I found this.

[Narrator 1]

We've got to figure something out.

[Host]

They've got us locked in here like prisoners.

[Spencer]

Prisoners in our own school.

[Co-host 2]

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[Host]

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[Jared]

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[Host]

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[Co-host 2]

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[Spencer]

Hey,

[Co-host 1]

So that shot of the fucking Simpsons school being a prison is crazy and like that to me.

[Host]

I don't know. Listen, once again, I'm not saying school is prison, although sometimes it feels like it.

[Co-host 1]

I'm trying to relate to the kids, but like the similarities are wild.

[Host]

And Jared was onto this, I think two years ago he broke this down in one of our conspiracy theories.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah,

[Co-host 2]

Period.

[Jared]

I'm always right and it's usually worse. Disclaimer. But no, I mean, I wonder how old college is. Well, how college.

[Co-host 1]

What do you mean?

[Spencer]

The idea of college?

[Host]

Yeah, like how long?

[Jared]

Well, college is for the people that really want to get high paying jobs because you're going to make more money in a corporation if you have a college degree. Allegedly. I don't know this for sure, but if you went to like MIT or something like that, you're probably hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. So they know that you're coming in, having to pay off this debt. So you're going to work way harder. You're probably going to work long hours because this job means to you paying off that debt. And if you lose it, that means that you're going to go more in debt. Where a non college, you know, graduate has none of that. So they're a little bit more riskier. They don't have the leverage on them of, you know, oh, so that's what I've heard is one of the factors in paying more for college graduates.

[Passenger 2]

But all this is why I almost went to Germany for school. Because I have family out there and

[Spencer]

it's just, it's free. School is.

[Passenger 2]

College is free.

[Host]

This episode is sponsored by Germany.

[Jared]

Oh, thank you very much. Perfect. Yeah.

[Spencer]

German school.

[Jared]

School.

[Host]

Well, speaking of that's crazy. That hopefully won't get me sued cuz I didn't make this video. This was sent to us by Morgan and then sent to us by everyone. She was on top of this. If you have not seen this story, I don't want to give it away. Just check out the new item at

[Co-host 1]

Costco that everybody's talking about.

[Passenger 1]

I was just at Costco and I was trying to be a good cool mom, get some brownie points by treating my kids to blueberry bagels. Guess what? No cool mom here. This dietitian is not buying these blueberry bagels and I'm going to show you why. So I picked up the blueberry bagel bag and I look at the label and it says simulated blueberry bagels. And I was like simulated. That's weird. Luckily, the ingredients list is listed right below, so let's read through them. Flour, water, sugar. I'm okay. I'm even okay with the sugar. Okay, next is simulated blueberries in brackets. Sugar, Corn syrup, corn cereal, cornstarch, palm, I think it was olive palm oil. Artificial flavor, Brilliant blue, FCF allure red. And there's no blueberries in this bagel. They simulated blueberries, basically. Just sugar, cornstarch, corn syrup to make fake blueberries to put in these bagels. That's a no for me. My kids will not be getting simulated blueberry bagels.

[Jared]

I wonder how much they are.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host 1]

We should have got them.

[Spencer]

We should bring out the bagels.

[Jared]

Can you imagine? Like, I need blueberry for this recipe. Do you know the recipe for blueberry? I just need to make blueberry real quick.

[Co-host 1]

First of all, you know what?

[Host]

Okay.

[Co-host 2]

You're standing up for Costco.

[Host]

Let me give one positive before I. Before I drag them. At least they're being honest about it.

[Co-host 1]

It says very big on that label simulator. Which is crazy. Which is crazy, right? Also, imagine going to Costco and being

[Host]

like, hi, excuse me, Where's a simulated bagel?

[Co-host 1]

It's like, what the fuck is happening? Right? At least they were up for.

[Host]

Although this is Canada, so maybe in the US they're not allegedly.

[Co-host 2]

Just maybe Canada has better, like, transparency food laws.

[Host]

But like, yeah, professor, that's fucking crazy.

[Co-host 1]

And I just get some blueberries.

[Spencer]

It's not that hard.

[Co-host 2]

Well, they're the same people fucking their chickens.

[Spencer]

I mean, so, yeah, clarify clarifying chickens

[Co-host 2]

altering their rotisserie chickens.

[Spencer]

They put water in the chicken.

[Host]

There will never be a day where I don't run into a Costco theory on my Explore base.

[Co-host 1]

It's crazy. It's like, shout out Costco for staying relevant. I guess, because it's every day, it's a little bit.

[Co-host 2]

When you're the biggest in your category, you're gonna be brought down. There's gonna be haters like me, but I don't know.

[Spencer]

I think it's more. They just got some wild going on.

[Co-host 1]

They're making blueberries over there.

[Jared]

I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

Shit's getting crazy.

[Host]

I don't know.

[Co-host 1]

But please assume me.

[Host]

But what? Which then I want to give a positive update. So in the last episode, we talked about Reese's and how we were right and how the peanut butter cups tasted weird and different and disgusting.

[Co-host 1]

And then the, like, you know, grandson of Mr. Reese's came out and was like, what the fuck? These taste weird.

[Host]

So there's an update.

[Narrator 1]

The Hershey's and Reese's products will soon taste a little different. According to Hershey Co. The chocolate in a small portion of the products will start soon be made using its classic milk and dark chocolate recipes. Some of the impacted products include Reese's mini cups and shapes. The changes were taken back last year. And of course, this comes after the grand shapes accused Hershey of using cheaper.

[Co-host 2]

This is after they lied though, and said they didn't alter the recipe. So I'm on to you, Big Chocolate.

[Jared]

This is where my brain goes, okay? Shout out to Big Chocolate first and foremost. All right, I'm good with big chocolate, but I believe it might have been in the 80s, maybe the 90s. I'm not exactly sure on the date, but Coca Cola did something where they revamped their whole ingredient list and they had Coca Cola new formula. And they put that out into the stores and people were outraged. They were pissed off. Everybody was talking about this disgusting new Coke that exists. And maybe like a year later or so, Coca Cola decided to put back out Coca Cola Classic. That's why it's called Coca Cola Classic now. And they like quadruple their sales. So I think this could be kind of Big Chocolate taking note of Big Soda and being like, well, it worked for Coca Cola, but now we got everybody in the world talking about how bad it is. We'll take a hit for like 2/4. You're blowing my mind. Just put out some powdery chocolate, you know, that people don't think tastes good because we're gonna let them know. But don't worry, you were right. And the one that you do want to get is now available again. No, because people that haven't had Reese's in forever are going to be like, I wonder if it does taste the same as when I was a kid. You know, like. Or younger people are going to be like, oh, finally give me back what I wanted to get. Even more engulfed in eating probably tons of Maurices now because, you know, they're back on the all the big chocolate.

[Passenger 2]

How much money Coca Cola would get if they started putting cocaine back in there?

[Spencer]

Whoa, Think about it.

[Jared]

They've been invoiced for coca leaf so in recent history, so you never know.

[Spencer]

Well, I will say one thing about big chocolate is that a little allegedly theory, just a theory, is that maybe they got on to a did formula for their chocolate because there's a new trend going in Big chocolate.

[Passenger 2]

Is that poop.

[Co-host 2]

Never letting my baby girl eat another Cadbury bunny. Lab grown chocolate is now a thing. Oreo, Cadbury and Toblerone are already funding overseas biotech companies producing it because lab is cheaper than farm grown.

[Jared]

Always.

[Co-host 2]

My daughter got a Cadbury egg in her basket last year. I looked at the ingredients and immediately threw it away, which is exactly what you should do. That dairy milk isn't even legal chocolate in 27 countries.

[Spencer]

So lab grown chocolate is hitting the shelves, folks. All these big companies. I think I talked about it a while ago, that one of my theories was like, it's. It's becoming harder and harder to get real chocolate. These cocoa beans with, like, climate stuff and, like, international issues and everything. It's just hard getting harder to get the supplies. And so all these companies are realizing, like, oh, we have. We can now grow chocolate in the lab. We can now make lab grown chocolate. And so we're just gonna start replacing that.

[Host]

Okay, that's a yuck.

[Co-host 1]

Let me.

[Host]

Okay, let's just do a quick little fun food one.

[Co-host 1]

And I have an idea.

[Spencer]

Bring it out.

[Co-host 1]

Now, this one is stupid, but it made me laugh.

[Host]

And it also did kind of blow my mind a little bit. This is a theory about Lucky Charms,

[Co-host 1]

and I bet you have not heard this one yet. Why do Lucky charms look like cat food? I mean, nor the marshmallows. Just look at the cereal. Why does it look like that? Now, the official story is that somebody in the 1960s just cut up some questions.

[Jared]

It's like a millennium right there.

[Co-host 1]

But what if there was more to the story? What if I told you they had a very expensive factory full of very expensive machinery, and they didn't want to throw it away, so they said, hey, let's make kids cereal. But we gotta disguise it, right? So they add the marshmallows to distract us. Without them, you wouldn't eat them.

[Narrator 4]

But you can't mind.

[Jared]

Oh, so are we eating cat food?

[Co-host 1]

No.

[Jared]

Or is it just made from the same machinery?

[Co-host 1]

Yeah, Right. But I was like, wait. And I didn't do this to you guys because, like, this would be crazy. I'm not fed us cat food. But I was thinking, like, how funny would it be if before I showed you that video, I was like, all

[Host]

right, guys, we're going to see if Lucky Charm still tastes the same.

[Co-host 1]

And if I just got cat food and put the marshmallows in it, I

[Spencer]

wish you would have done it.

[Co-host 1]

And then everybody tries it. Like, no, it tastes the same. And I'm like, it's cat food. I didn't do it, because that's crazy.

[Jared]

I tricked a few people into eating dog food when I was younger.

[Host]

Oh, my God. I remember that.

[Co-host 2]

Shane's a victim.

[Jared]

I got punched pretty hard by one of the girls.

[Co-host 1]

Wait, what was your scam? Because I remember this.

[Jared]

Well, I had a bag, a Ziploc baggie, Full of dog food. And it just looks like grape nuts, you know, like the cereal. And one girl just asked if, you know, what is it? I was like, oh, it's like some healthy stuff I eat to, like, you know, keep my hunger in check, whatever. And I gave her like, a handful, and she chucked it down, and I said it was dog food. And then she punched me in the arm. And I got a pretty bad group, pretty bad bruise.

[Co-host 1]

Here's what I will say.

[Host]

Just like I stood up for Costco, I'm gonna stand up for you here.

[Jared]

At least it was funny.

[Host]

At least you told them.

[Co-host 1]

Still crazy.

[Co-host 2]

But it's a long con, too, because you really are.

[Jared]

Like, when you work at a pet store, like, you think of any reason to have fun with it. That's one of them.

[Host]

So let us know. Lucky Charms. Listen, I'm a big Lucky Charms head. Love it. Let us know. Is that true?

[Co-host 1]

Did you guys used to be cat

[Host]

food or did they make Are the machines. They used to make cat food and then they transitioned it to cereal because they. That's fascinating. Why else would it look like cat food? And why is nobody besides this genius

[Spencer]

ever said that he did it in such a good way too, where I believed him. So he's 100% big expensive thing. So why is this? Yeah, why is that?

[Jared]

I think if you put why does Lucky Charms look like cat food on a shirt, that'd be a good seller. That's a very high engager right there.

[Spencer]

You think it's a seller?

[Jared]

Like, I think people would be cute. Well, I'd like it.

[Co-host 2]

Sell it on bigdicks.com again.

[Spencer]

That's not the website.

[Host]

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[Co-host 2]

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[Host]

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[Co-host 2]

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[Spencer]

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[Host]

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[Co-host 1]

The walking pad.

[Co-host 2]

He's always hitting the pad.

[Host]

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[Jared]

Mayonnaise.

[Host]

Interesting. I love mayonnaise. But I see where you're going with that and I'm happy you kicked off that conversation.

[Jared]

Kick off.

[Host]

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[Co-host 1]

I know.

[Co-host 2]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Co-host 1]

I will say, though, he sent me

[Host]

a link and he goes, I don't know what this is. I didn't watch it.

[Co-host 1]

But it's a conspiracy, and it was on my timeline.

[Host]

So this is the pink and blue conspiracy in pop music.

[Co-host 1]

And, you know, I love my color

[Host]

theory when it comes to pop music. We've talked about it before. The hair theory was like a few years ago where we talked about the fact that if you want to blow up as a singer, you want to be a biggest pop star in the world. You pick a specific hair color and then it happens. And it happened with so many different people. Then it was like, well, just pick a color in general. Olivia Rodrigo picked purple, and then Taylor Swift picked red or orange and blue in the last one, Right? Yeah, yeah. So it's like you pick a color and Then you blow up. Well, this new theory is how to blow up as a female pop star.

[Narrator 3]

Guys, there is a pink and blue conspiracy in pop music. This color combo keeps popping up for all of the major pop divas. The pinks range from soft to confident, and the blues range from being safe to being an authority figure. So naturally, we can graph where an album is on the soft versus confidence spectrum and then do the same thing on the safe to authoritative spectrum. So first thing I did was graph all of the albums on their pink scale, and then I did the blues, and that's when I started to see patterns. These are the soft and safe albums. This is soft girl but in charge. This is confident and in charge, and this is confident and safe. And that helped me find a bunch of instances where different artists use the same colors for similar emotional purposes. Pink and blue keeps popping up because it's the easiest way for an artist to immediately establish themselves as both feminine and trustworthy.

[Co-host 1]

Okay?

[Host]

So I instantly was like, wait a minute. Feminine and trustworthy? That makes so much sense, especially in pop music, right? When your target demographic is young girls, and you're like, how do I appeal to them in an album image so that they trust me and also know that I'm a girl's girl? Like, how do I do that? So then I literally searched pink and blue album covers.

[Co-host 1]

The first one I found pink Trust fall. Literally.

[Jared]

Trust is a word.

[Co-host 1]

I love pink, by the way. But, like, trust, that was so funny

[Host]

to me because it's like, the pink, the blue. Well, Olivia Rodrigo was one of the biggest color theory, you know, conspiracies, because she chose purple, and she really went with it, right? Well, now she's on her third album, and she's like, okay, how am I gonna, you know, appeal to the audience? How am I gonna switch it up? Her next album cover?

[Spencer]

Whoa.

[Co-host 1]

Light pink and light blue.

[Host]

Then I started thinking, well, what if there's an even bigger theory to this? I agree with her. It's about the feminine and the safe. And then I was like, but what does light pink and light blue remind me of? That reminds me of childhood. That's nostalgic, like, and nostalgia is the biggest seller of everything. Of movies. That's why they remake movies of candy. That's why they always do throwbacks, like, whatever. Nostalgia is huge. Childhood. So then I searched, like, pink and blue album covers. Nostalgic. And then, yeah, one of the biggest pop albums of all time, Dua Lipa, and it's pink and blue. And her album's called Future nostalgia.

[Co-host 1]

What the hell? Where? The whole concept of her album was

[Host]

taking old songs and, like, sampling them in every one of her songs to remind you of the songs you loved when you were a kid.

[Co-host 1]

And I was like, whoa.

[Passenger 2]

Like, did you wear a pink and blue shirt on purpose?

[Co-host 1]

No.

[Jared]

Whoa.

[Co-host 1]

I'm gonna throw up.

[Co-host 2]

The exact colors.

[Spencer]

Like, the exact same.

[Co-host 1]

I'm sick.

[Jared]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host 2]

What, are you trying to project nostalgia?

[Jared]

You can trust him. These are just theories.

[Co-host 1]

Oh, my God.

[Co-host 2]

He doesn't believe them until they're true two years later. And then it's told you so.

[Co-host 1]

Whoa.

[Host]

So, yeah, let us know. Have you noticed any other albums that are pink and blue? And did they make you feel like you trust them? Okay, well, speaking of not being able to trust anyone, although I trust all those pop divas.

[Narrator 6]

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[Host]

Here's a clip about news anchors. And this led me down a real crazy rabbit hole. But we'll start here.

[Narrator 4]

So if you talk to your parents, every news anchor that they remember from their childhood, there's like, a 90% chance that was an actual CIA operative. And this is documented release documents. Guys like Walter Cronkite, like, one of the most famous news anchors of all time, working for the CIA really, to engineer reality. And they're in the business of engineering reality. And you just have to understand that so much of our reality is engineered. It doesn't mean you walk around like a schizophrenic thinking that everything's out to get you, everybody's targeting you. It just means, like, you see something happen on the news, you see something happening in your life, and you just have one word. Just memorize this one word. Anybody listening? When you hear that stuff or see that stuff, maybe, maybe they say, oh, this happened today because of this one thing. Maybe, just maybe, you don't have to say there's some global cabal, and, like, I need to drill down to the end and go break into.

[Host]

Cut to Rylan being like, why didn't you do the dishes? I'm like, maybe. Okay, so this was interesting because once again, I don't know if any of that Is true. I was looking into it. Talked about this before where, like, there has been instances where the news has been caught, like, scripting things or, you know, for sure setting things up or whatever. But do you guys remember in 2018 there was this clip that went viral and it was where all the news stations started kind of saying the same script. If you don't remember, here it is.

[Narrator 6]

Our greatest responsibility is to serve our Treasure Valley communities, the El Paso, Las

[Host]

Cruces community, Eastern Iowa communities, Mid Michigan communities.

[Narrator 1]

We are extremely proud of the quality balanced journalism that CBS4 News produces.

[Host]

But we are concerned about.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, crazy, right?

[Host]

So there was an update about this. Well, first of all, what happened was this big news organization, the largest owner of local television stations in the US directed all of its news anchors in 2018 to deliver the same scripted message, which was about, you know, false news and the spread of false news and not to trust false news and things like that. So they sent out the same script to all the news stations that they owned to say the same script. So that's why they did that. Right. So then I guess they did it again.

[Narrator 6]

Today. Sinclair Broadcast Group was caught again with dozens of local anchors again reading the same script. The newsletter's public notice and popular information first brought attention to the copycat newscasts, which featured a script you might say has a very clear conservative agenda. The Wall Street Journal.

[Host]

Calling into question the mental fitness of

[Narrator 6]

President Joe Biden, The Wall Street Journal, His national court correspondent Matt Galka tells us the issue could be an election decider. The issue could be an election decider.

[Spencer]

That's crazy.

[Host]

So, okay, I pulled those clips, right? I was like, oh, yeah, we'll do an update. We'll talk about this. Then, totally unrelated, I moved on to my next theory I was going to research, which is about your car listening to you and watching you. And I was like, falling down that rabbit hole. So first I click on this news clip. You bought a new car in the last five years.

[Narrator 4]

You may be sharing more than just the road.

[Host]

A new Consumer Reports investigation reveals that automakers could be tracking and selling your

[Jared]

driving data, often without you even knowing.

[Host]

Okay. So I was watching that clip and I was like, oh, wow, that's so scary. That's crazy.

[Spencer]

Oh.

[Host]

And then on my sidebar on YouTube, I saw this other news clip, and I was like, oh, it's in another state. It's another news.

[Co-host 1]

If you bought a new car in the last five years, you might be sharing more than just the road. A new investigation reveals that automakers could be Tracking, checking, and selling your driving

[Host]

data, often without you even knowing it.

[Jared]

That new car of yours, that's so weird.

[Co-host 1]

I was like, ah. Like, it's still. It's still happening. It freaked me out. So I don't know if they're owned by what.

[Host]

I don't know. But that was just crazy to me that I'm like, wow, you see a news story and you're like, but why

[Passenger 2]

would you make more than one news publication say the exact same thing to me? Like, it makes it all feel.

[Host]

Because it's all content. They're just filling up space. Like, I remember when the fires were happening, which was, like, the most traumatic, scariest thing ever. The news turned it into, like, the Super Bowl.

[Co-host 2]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

Really dragging, like, after. It was, like, kind of contained. It was like, you're still in danger.

[Jared]

You're still.

[Spencer]

They want you to feel like, whoa, I'm in danger. I need to watch the news and

[Host]

come back after the break to see where the fire is gonna hit next. And then if you watch the movie Nightcrawler, which is really good, you should watch it. But Jake Gyllenhaal plays, you know, or he goes out and tries to film things for the news, but, like, he starts staging things for the news and, you know, being a part of the crime scene to get footage for the news. And the news station's like, great. Love it. Like, it. It is very, very fascinating what the news.

[Spencer]

Like, yeah, it is. It is interesting. Especially now also with, like. It's like. I think more and more people are like. I think they realize that's, like, control,

[Co-host 2]

like, just a way to get your message.

[Spencer]

Yeah, yeah, we all know. But. Yeah.

[Host]

Well, speaking of the rabbit hole, I was starting to fall down, and then I got distracted, which was that your cars are all listening and watching you, which we actually did talk about, I think, in that 2020 video. But basically, a lot of car companies, when you, you know, buy the car, if there is, like, an electronic anything in your car, like a media center or, like, a screen or if you've noticed, a lot of cars now have the screens. The theory is that you are accepting a lot of terms and conditions, and they are tracking everything you're doing and every song you're listening to and every, like, tiny little turn you make, and, like, everything is allegedly being tracked the second that you step off the lot. So that is a theory. Then I started going down the rabbit hole about. I was like, well, okay, if all the car companies are collecting all this data, like, okay, that's Crazy. But didn't one of the car companies get in trouble for like, it's like sex, something? It was.

[Spencer]

Yeah, it was.

[Palm Beach Pete]

Yeah.

[Spencer]

They were tracking all their health data which included how often they had sex, when they had sex, when. Because it would re. It would. It had access to all your texts.

[Host]

Stop it.

[Spencer]

Yeah, so it would take all your text and it could like, it could like scan all your stuff.

[Host]

We never text about having sex. That would be weird.

[Spencer]

Did it?

[Co-host 2]

That would be weird. Yeah.

[Host]

Like, Jack.

[Spencer]

I know. I don't think that's what it was. Hey, we had sex.

[Co-host 2]

Just to confirm, was it listening or was it like car sex specific?

[Spencer]

No, no, it was like. Like going into your. Like when you. Whenever you plug your phone in and it's like. Yeah, but you accepted that they can look through your phone.

[Host]

So then I started thinking, okay, well what about people who just like Uber everywhere? Or like, what about people who don't have cars? Or like, you know, how are they being tracked? Then I started falling down the Waymole rabbit hole. I have never been in one of these. I can't do it. I'm too scared. Mainly because of my car sickness. It's like way too.

[Jared]

Yeah, right?

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Co-host 1]

But have you.

[Host]

Have you seen all the videos of what the fuck is happening with these waymos? Have you seen these?

[Co-host 1]

No. It's crazy.

[Co-host 2]

I mean, I see them in the

[Host]

wild, but just watch a few of them.

[Jared]

What are waymos doing?

[Host]

Way more than they should be.

[Jared]

We need way less on the road

[Narrator 6]

safety concerns at this railroad crossing for a driverless Waymo vehicle in Austin, Texas. The car stopped between the safety arm and the tracks just as that train passed. Waymo says there was no passenger in the car. Company says its vehicle crossed that location hundreds of times without incident, but says it will now review that location. Waymo has insisted its self driving cars are safer than human drivers, despite recent incidents making headlines.

[Co-host 1]

Okay, can I just say this?

[Host]

Waymo, don't come for me. I don't want a lawsuit.

[Co-host 1]

But I will say it's funny to

[Host]

compare it to like human drivers when like, yeah, there's a lot of crazy

[Co-host 1]

human drivers, but we're not as bad as the worst humans ever. I think the whole crash all the

[Co-host 2]

time, the campaign is, we're not distracted. You are. Yeah, like computers aren't distracted, but also this.

[Host]

How can he help? Hi, we're.

[Passenger 1]

The car went into a prohibited lane

[Host]

and it's wanting to turn left, but

[Narrator 1]

we need to go straight.

[Host]

Oh, no. I'm really sorry for this Inconvenience already have this escalated to one of our specialists. We will have our expressions list working in the background or they may soon join the call. I'm sorry. Let me this. Stop the car.

[Passenger 1]

I'm not.

[Host]

I'm never riding with y' all again.

[Passenger 2]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jared]

Wow.

[Spencer]

Imagine you're. The last thing you hear is some like, corporate, like, let me escalate that to our. It's like the last thing you hear.

[Host]

Oh, my God. So then I saw that.

[Narrator 1]

So I just found out that Waymos are driven by people in the Philippines. And I can't get over it. Obviously we know that Waymos are self automated, but when a Waymo is in a situation where they don't know what to do, basically their controls are sent to people in the Philippines that navigate them out of those sticky situations. I can't help but picture people out there being like, all right, I'm gonna make some money. I'm gonna play Waymo now. It's like gta, but instead of the regular characters is just tech bros in sf.

[Spencer]

This happened to me, really. First time I took a Waymo, it got stuck for like 20 minutes in a parking lot. We had to call.

[Co-host 2]

You didn't bail?

[Spencer]

No, because we had to go. We were late. It was like we just got in. It drove the wrong way. It drove behind a building into some random parking lot, and it kept going.

[Host]

Oh, my God.

[Spencer]

We were like, hey, we're stuck. And then it was like the same kind of thing. Okay, we'll figure that out for you. And then it clearly a human took over. It drove us out of the parking lot, and then it took it, and then it started doing it.

[Narrator 1]

The autonomous vehicle company Waymo is facing some criticism.

[Passenger 1]

Waymo's safety officer said if they get into a sticky situation, agents are located

[Narrator 1]

in the US and in the Philippines to help.

[Passenger 1]

Some lawmakers said having remote operators from outside the US could be a safety issue.

[Host]

So then I started thinking, okay, well, what's a theory? Why are Waymos taking over? Why is everybody wanting us to have self driving cars? Like, why is it such a thing? We've talked about it a little bit in the past, but the one that Jared has brought up before that I wanted to. To circle back to was the idea of a kill switch that all the cars that are self driving, allegedly just a theory, might have a kill switch. And that is something that could be really bad if the wrong people were in control of that.

[Jared]

Yeah, I mean, a kill switch definitely makes sense, but also I think maybe even it was something we mentioned a couple episodes back is like, it all feels like everything is kind of gearing towards something we've been talking about since the jump, but this alien invasion that they have planned, I mean, let's just kind of think everything is leaning towards that. But I think you had mentioned that if all the cars stopped, that would be very reminiscent of a moment in a movie where like something comes into our atmosphere that just takes up so much energy field that nothing else can exist within its range. And then everything would just go black. Cars would stop. It would be feel pretty sketchy. Imagine just being on the freeway and every car stops, including yours. The adage created driving chaos on the streets as traffic lights were down throughout the city and Waymo's self driving cars were put on pause by the company after the autonomous vehicles were baffled by the lack of traffic lights. Imagine being the only car that didn't stop though. You know, that would be kind of weird too, but.

[Host]

Okay, that's terrifying. This is not a theory. This is just something along the lines of like Uber and. And crazy things that have happened. So in 2016, Uber drivers in China found a loophole that basically would get them paid to do nothing. They would set creepy profile pictures and unsettling names so that passengers would get

[Co-host 1]

spooked out and cancel the trip. That way they would collect the cancellation fee without ever having to leave the parking spot. So look at some of these.

[Jared]

I'm gonna use Palm Beach. Pete,

[Co-host 1]

like, look at some of these profile pictures.

[Co-host 2]

He's trying to look.

[Host]

Oh my God.

[Co-host 1]

Like, whoa. Okay, look at this one.

[Jared]

That's like the girl from the Ring.

[Co-host 1]

Literally like this.

[Host]

Like what?

[Co-host 1]

Like what? That.

[Host]

I mean,

[Jared]

good for you.

[Co-host 1]

That human beings using their wild intelligence to scam the system. At least they're not using AI.

[Co-host 2]

The only problem is when somebody doesn't cancel and then you're obligated to still.

[Spencer]

And then they just like you're a freak.

[Co-host 1]

And then they show up and they're like, oh, you don't look so normal.

[Spencer]

Yeah, you look pretty good actually.

[Co-host 2]

They're like, well, I was trying to scam you, so could you please cancel this ride?

[Host]

Wow. Okay, Spencer, speaking of none of that, or maybe kind of a little bit. You said you had a little rabbit hole about the CIA doing something pretty crazy.

[Spencer]

Do you guys see in the news, in the like Iran war stuff how there was like a pilot that like crashed in Iran and there was this crazy rescue mission to like capture him? I don't know if you guys saw any of that. So this American pilot crashed in, like, the mountains of Iran, and he was stuck in the head to, like, rescue him before he got killed or anything like that. And so he was. The way they found him is they revealed this tool the CIA has, which is just like. Obviously they have a lot of hidden technology, but it's just interesting to see, like, when they have to use it, like, how it comes out. And it's called the ghost murmur. And they have this technology, I don't really know how it works, that the ghost murmur can hear the guy's heartbeat from miles away. They have the technology to hear the heartbeat, and they have this profile on the guy so they know exactly, like, the unique specification of his heart rate. And so they could. They found him, he was hidden in a cave in the mountains in, like, the middle of nowhere. And they, like, were scanning the area and they found his specific heartbeat because they could hear it. And it just, like, there's no other rabbit hole to go down because it's like, top secret information. But it was just really interesting to me of just like, what is like, they're taking all this data on us. Like, we're always like, well, what are they gonna use for Blah, blah, blah. But it's like, that's how far it can go. It's like they can know your exact heartbeat. They can find you anywhere. They can do this. They can. Like, but it also. It brings up the Luigi Mangioni thing and how they're like, wait, so you found him just off of a guy recognizing him somehow, allegedly, with like a. Just the mask on, just from his eyes. And it's like, no, I think they were tracking him illegally in some way. Allegedly.

[Co-host 2]

Eerie.

[Host]

That's all Spencer. Well, speaking of that, Jared.

[Narrator 6]

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[Host]

Watch only on prime this down because Spencer was telling me about this. I've seen this everywhere. But I really want to understand what's actually happening and what's. What's not a theory, because Spencer was saying this is like, all over.

[Spencer]

This is a thing. Chris was even saying I had a thing about. But do you want to play your video to get into it?

[Jared]

So this is just kind of. Let's gradually get to the Peak of this theory. But I found this video, and I found it very interesting, and you'll see why. But it basically goes over products that were created that got taken off the shelf or were made to cease production and see what kind of progress products these are and see maybe why people wouldn't want them out there.

[Narrator 7]

Products that got discontinued for solving the problem. Number one, the Forever Flashlight. In 2002, applied innovative technologies introduced a flashlight that needed no batteries. You shook it to generate power using electromagnetic induction. No replacements, no waste. After early success, the company faced sudden supply and manufacturing problems. The patent was sold. The product vanished. The idea worked. The business model didn't. Number two, the indestructible charging cable. In 2014, Fuse Chicken created a steel armored phone cable Built to survive extreme bending and stress. It came with a lifetime warranty. Most cables fail at the connector. This one didn't. Retailers slowly stopped stocking it. The cable industry relies on frequent replacements. A cable that never breaks threatens that cycle. Number three, lifetime mufflers. In the 1950s.

[Jared]

And you could probably pause at this point, but basically the last one is a company was selling lifetime mufflers for cars, but within, like, eight years of them being on the market, all the auto mechanics took them off the shelf because they rely on repeat business. But the whole thing is like, there's a gentleman, and his name was Stanley meyer. And in 1998, and I think we may have talked about this before, but he created a car which the engine ran strictly on water. He has developed what's called a water fuel cell.

[Spencer]

The pentagon flew a lieutenant colonel in

[Co-host 2]

last week to look at Myers invention.

[Jared]

There's talk of possibly using it in the star wars defense program and to run army tanks. So this was gonna be like, a huge blow to the oil companies, to everyone that basically supplies the capabilities for cars to run off of gasoline. So he was called by a company and like, hey, we're like, super interested in this patent because he had a bunch of patents throughout across multiple industries. But they're like, we really like this one. We want to meet with you, so let's go out to dinner. So they take him out to dinner, and he. He was found dead outside of the restaurant. But he had a note on him, allegedly, that said, they poisoned me, and it's because of what I'm doing to revolutionize the car world. So he went in there with that note thinking, there's a very big possibility that these people just want me out and they're gonna try to do something to me. And once he Realized that he walked out just enough to get his note out there and like have it be read. But it's crazy because I think there's like a system where they find somebody and then they see, could we use this person as an asset? Do we need to get rid of this person or can we give this person an alternative? And Spencer had texted me about how a bunch of scientists recently have gone missing. And if I knew anything about that and I heard a little bit about it, but I started doing more research. And it's very interesting because since 2023, nine scientists have gone missing. And the first one in 2023, he worked for something called the Jet Propulsion Laboratory for NASA. And then there was, I mean most of them, then the next guy, his name is Frank Wawald, he worked for the same exact laboratory. He was actually a co worker of the first guy who was Michael David Hicks that passed away. And it was very mysterious. Like he's a pretty healthy guy at 59 and he just suddenly dies. But the one that like really out of the nine, I believe like seven of them work for NASA. The other two were for Los Alamos. But this one lady, this happened in 2025, her name was Monica Rza, but she was just walking in the Angelos forest with like 30 people, will mind you. But the last time she was actually seen, she was waving at a friend that was 30ft away. And the friend looked back and she was completely gone. And this happened in Angela's National Forest. It was very close to a highway. And they deemed it as. It must have been accidental, you know, terrain incident where she fell off a cliff or something. But they researched the cliff she was next to. It wouldn't have been fatal if she fell off of it. And she's never been seen as again. And I mean this just keeps happening over and over, whether people are dying, whether people are going missing. I mean the last one was actually a. A guy that was doing like cancer research and his body was found and he was part of like jpl. And this just happened literally a month ago. So he's the last in the string of disappearances. But it's just like a wild thing. And it has been on the news a lot. Like the lady that I just told you about, she went missing, it was in June of 2025. And then like eight months later, the general in charge that was funding her project went missing.

[Spencer]

So the one that really like broke it open.

[Jared]

So it's kind of like, why are all these people going missing? Do they know something that they shouldn't know? Do they possess something that other people want? Or are they just so valuable for us that it makes them dangerous for somebody else for us to have them on our team, you know, but it's a lot to think about.

[Host]

That's terrifying. Wow. Just to end this episode on a light note, I guess a light blue

[Jared]

and light pink note.

[Host]

Thank you. Have you guys heard of DoorDash's brand new standalone app called Tasks? No, this is not sponsored by Tasks, but let me tell you about it. Instead of paying dashers to drop off your food, they started paying dashers to strap on a body camera and film themselves doing their everyday housewar chores.

[Co-host 2]

Oh, what in the Pokemon Go?

[Host]

Things like hand washing dishes to loading the dishwasher, folding laundry, recording unscripted everyday conversations in different languages. So why are they doing this? Well, the AI and robotics industry is starving for high quality real life data. So tech giants need massive amounts of first person video to teach the next generation of humanoid robots and AI systems how to understand complex daily tasks. So rather than building a data collection team from scratch, DoorDash realized they already have a network of 8 million independent

[Co-host 1]

contractors across the U.S. so now if you want to join task, you strap

[Host]

a camera to you and just do everyday chores.

[Jared]

Very cool.

[Host]

But to me it's interesting because, like, yeah, in the right now, you know, any job is good. Like, you know, people need jobs, but also you're just training the AI and

[Co-host 1]

the robots to take this job very soon.

[Spencer]

There are so many people doing that right now. It's like, guys, don't do that. Yeah, stop.

[Host]

I don't know, I just thought that was, was next level.

[Co-host 2]

Like, that is crazy.

[Passenger 2]

I don't know why we keep going towards the humanoid robots. Because I keep seeing videos of them like freaking out and like trying to kill someone in a restaurant.

[Spencer]

Like, have you seen, I think we saw the same video and everyone's laughing like, as they're trying to like shut

[Passenger 2]

it down and they can't. And it's like there keeps being more

[Co-host 2]

and more videos of them, like getting

[Passenger 2]

violent and flipping out. And I'm like, and we want to

[Host]

make more of these.

[Co-host 2]

Combining AI with the robots is truly

[Spencer]

the end of us.

[Jared]

Truly.

[Passenger 2]

Thank you.

[Host]

Well, that was supposed to be light, but listen, I think that we're going to be fine.

[Spencer]

And every episode

[Co-host 1]

a disclaimer. That is just a theory.

[Host]

Well, you guys go. Hopefully you enjoyed whatever the hell this was. Let us know in the comments. Are you enjoying this new format? Do you like it? Do you miss the old format. Do you want us to bring in a game every once in a while? We could do that. I do like this table. Like, I enjoy sitting here. I feel like we're cool closer. I do think we could incorporate some, like, snack testing or conspiracy kitchen vibes or maybe some games. Let us know in the comments. What do you want us to incorporate? What are you enjoying about this new vibe of the show? And yeah, thank you guys so much for your support on this revamp. I'm so excited. It's been so fun to plan these episodes, to film them, to fall down the rabbit holes together.

[Co-host 1]

Yeah. And also if you want to check

[Host]

out the Patreon, no pressure, but you use Code Grower to get the first month for $4.99. And we have two extra podcasts. Office party podcast a month. We have one to two vlogs a month, an episode of a docu series, so check it out. And we also have a conspiracy chat over there, which we're always in there, you know, talking about different theories and stuff and hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Stay safe out there.

[Co-host 2]

Stay away from robots and cars.

[Host]

Robotic and Ryland, nobody's driving.

[Jared]

Stay away from me for sure.

[Co-host 2]

I crashed the out of Shane's car last week.

[Host]

Bye.

[Jared]

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