Exposing Our Pasts and Breaking NDAs… with Shane and Spencer!

Summary

Podcast Summary: Exposing Our Pasts and Breaking NDAs… with Shane and Spencer!

Title: The Sip with Ryland Adams and Lizze Gordon
Host: Ryland Adams
Co-host: Lizze Gordon
Guests: Shane Dawson and Spencer
Release Date: June 11, 2025

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1. Welcoming Guests and Setting the Stage

The episode kicks off with Ryland Adams humorously addressing Lizze Gordon about her shoes, immediately establishing the podcast's light-hearted and candid atmosphere.

Ryland Adams (00:00): "I wasn't calling you fat, by the way. I was saying you took a sledgehammer."

This playful banter quickly transitions into welcoming the guests, Shane Dawson and Spencer, marking a special episode focused on vulnerability and the challenges surrounding Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs).

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2. Discussing Vulnerability and NDAs

The conversation delves into the complexities of NDAs, especially in the entertainment industry. Ryland asserts the diminishing effectiveness of NDAs in today's digital age.

Ryland Adams (00:29): "NDAs don't work anymore."

Shane concurs, sharing his experiences of feeling restricted by NDAs, which often prevent creators from openly discussing their projects or pasts.

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3. Navigating Creative Projects and Funding Challenges

Shane Dawson opens up about his struggles with securing funds for his creative endeavors without compromising his artistic vision.

Shane Dawson (09:10): "We've been trying to get this movie made for five years now..."

He highlights the industry's preference for established celebrities, making it difficult for emerging creators to bring authentic projects to life. The discussion underscores the importance of independent funding platforms like Patreon in democratizing content creation.

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4. The Role of Patreon and Community Support

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the power of community support through Patreon. Shane expresses immense gratitude towards his supporters for alleviating his anxieties during the soft launch of his Patreon.

Shane Dawson (05:22): "Thank you guys for being so supportive and so nice. Literally, not like one negative thing."

Lizze echoes this sentiment, emphasizing the safety and unconditional support within their "chugger" community.

Lizze Gordon (05:50): "Our chugger community is literally one of my favorite spaces on the Internet because it is nothing but like, we have your back."

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5. Personal Anecdotes and Behind-the-Scenes Moments

The podcast transitions into sharing personal stories and behind-the-scenes moments, fostering a deeper connection with the audience.

• Ryland's Attempted Apology: Ryland shares a moment where his attempt at a humorous apology about Lizze’s feet was misinterpreted, sparking a discussion on the fine line between humor and offense.

  Ryland Adams (32:04): "My delivery was awful. I knew that."

• Spencer's Improv Struggles: Spencer recounts his challenging experience with an improv team, highlighting the difficulties of performing and the emotional toll it took on him.

  Spencer (39:27): "It's hard being on an improv team."

• Shane’s Email to Demi Lovato: Shane narrates his bold move to email Demi Lovato with a song he co-wrote, showcasing his proactive approach to creative collaborations despite uncertainties.

  Shane Dawson (18:35): "I emailed Demi Lovato at 3am last night..."

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6. Addressing Controversies and Miscommunications

A notable segment involves a misunderstanding where Ryland's comment about Lizze's feet led to backlash, emphasizing the importance of intent versus perception.

Ryland Adams (34:16): "But if it was truly something that, like, I meant and said, and it was a pressure point, I cut it out of the episode, it would be gone."

Despite the initial offense, Lizze clarifies that their relationship is rooted in love, even when they jest harshly with each other.

Lizze Gordon (34:58): "We have a very harsh way of speaking to each other, but I think rooted in all of it is love."

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7. The Dynamics of Relationships and Breakups

The episode touches upon the evolving relationships among the hosts and guests, including a potential breakup between Ryland and Spencer, reflecting on how personal dynamics can influence collaborative projects.

Ryland Adams (38:38): "We went and got McKinnick of the Sip controversies."

This candid discussion provides listeners with insights into the personal challenges and growth within their professional relationships.

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8. Embracing Authenticity and Personal Growth

Throughout the episode, the hosts and guests emphasize the importance of authenticity in their creative pursuits and personal lives. They discuss overcoming fears, embracing vulnerabilities, and the impact of genuine community support on personal and professional growth.

Spencer (08:35): "What's so interesting, though, is...we don't know. You've never done it before. It's like, you just need to do it and just prove people like, yeah, I can do it."

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9. Conclusion and Future Directions

As the episode nears its end, the hosts encourage listeners to support their Patreon and stay engaged with upcoming content. They tease future projects, including a docu-series and new podcast setups, promising an evolving and dynamic listening experience.

Ryland Adams (75:39): "We love you so much. We'll see you next week."

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Notable Quotes

• Ryland Adams (00:29): "NDAs don’t work anymore."
• Shane Dawson (05:22): "Thank you guys for being so supportive and so nice. Literally, not like one negative thing."
• Lizze Gordon (05:50): "Our chugger community is literally one of my favorite spaces on the Internet because it is nothing but like, we have your back."
• Shane Dawson (18:35): "I emailed Demi Lovato at 3am last night..."
• Ryland Adams (34:16): "But if it was truly something that, like, I meant and said, and it was a pressure point, I cut it out of the episode, it would be gone."
• Lizzie Gordon (34:58): "We have a very harsh way of speaking to each other, but I think rooted in all of it is love."
• Spencer (08:35): "You just need to do it and just prove people like, yeah, I can do it."

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Key Takeaways

• The Ineffectiveness of NDAs: In the modern digital landscape, NDAs are becoming less effective in protecting creative projects, leading creators to seek alternative funding and support systems.

• The Power of Community Support: Platforms like Patreon play a crucial role in enabling creators to maintain artistic integrity without heavy reliance on traditional funding avenues.

• Authenticity and Vulnerability: Embracing genuine interactions and being open about personal challenges fosters stronger connections with audiences and supports personal growth.

• Navigating Personal Dynamics: Understanding and managing personal relationships within collaborative settings is vital for the success and sustainability of creative projects.

• Humor and Miscommunication: Balancing humor with sensitivity is essential to prevent misunderstandings, especially in vulnerable discussions.

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This episode of The Sip with Ryland Adams and Lizze Gordon offers a blend of candid discussions, personal anecdotes, and insightful commentary on the challenges faced by creators in the modern media landscape. With guests Shane Dawson and Spencer, the conversation provides listeners with an unfiltered look into the intricacies of creative freedom, community support, and personal growth.

Transcript

[Ryland Adams]

I wasn't calling you fat, by the way. I was saying you took a sledgehammer. I'm wrapping back.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Here's the proof that her feet are fat.

[Spencer]

I wasn't lying.

[Shane Dawson]

He shows your feet not fitting in the sledge. They really didn't fit in the sleeve.

[Lizzie Gordon]

They really didn't.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, who else is gonna be vulnerable here?

[Shane Dawson]

Can we talk about how I emailed Demi Lovato at 3am last night?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Why did you do that? That's crazy. This is what he does. He's always like, okay, everyone's forgotten about the awful thing. I said, let me bring it back.

[Shane Dawson]

If you've ever gotten a text from me that you're like, this is out of character. I'm walking.

[Ryland Adams]

No. NDAs don't work anymore.

[Shane Dawson]

No, no longer.

[Spencer]

We just been.

[Ryland Adams]

You broke up.

[Shane Dawson]

What?

[Spencer]

Broke up?

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, Go for it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What do you mean?

[Ryland Adams]

You can't just naturally recreate. I keep saying things, and Shane's like, save it for the podcast. Save it for the podcast. Normally, I'm the one that's like, everyone, you shut up. But I was trying to do.

[Shane Dawson]

Are we. Is it happening already? I feel like me and Spencer are, like, in a docu series on Netflix about how we murdered our parents.

[Spencer]

Being, like, interviewed.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You're not brothers, though. You're just friends that both murdered.

[Spencer]

Yeah, we just have that in common.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Or it's a crisscross thing, like that Hitchcock movie where the producers across the.

[Ryland Adams]

Couch and we're asking how the series of events went down. And then, like, we have Chris that's monitoring that we're getting everything we need. Hey, Chris.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Hi.

[Ryland Adams]

Hey, girl. Shane and Spencer, welcome to the podcast.

[Spencer]

There's no one else.

[Ryland Adams]

I am very excited because Spencer has ever only joined us in the car. And once I discovered we could do guests in a way that wasn't awful.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

This is great honor.

[Shane Dawson]

Is it not awful?

[Lizzie Gordon]

I mean, I cannot see Spencer.

[Spencer]

It's perfectly in our eye.

[Shane Dawson]

All I see is Ryland's hair, which is iconic, but also like this shed. And no offense to the. The person that helped you make this shed, but the floor is tilting and I'm like, going like this, and it's like, triggering vertigo.

[Ryland Adams]

Have you been to your gym, sweetheart?

[Shane Dawson]

Whoa.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Wow. I just mean how wide is the shot?

[Ryland Adams]

Sits parallel to this shed, which is our gym.

[Shane Dawson]

Do you feel it?

[Spencer]

Literally, this is the one you took, like, a hammer to the floor. Floor was at the gym.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, that was when we lost Louie.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah. This is actually in Spencer's, like, first. Did you Want to save this for your podcast?

[Shane Dawson]

Ooh, Patreon plug.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, okay. In one of our first weekends of Spencer working for us, we had to go.

[Shane Dawson]

We're just gonna do it.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Shane Dawson]

I thought. We thought we were saving that. We had it written down for the. You know what? No, let's give the chuggers the exclusive.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, I was trying to pre produce this and Shane was like, all I.

[Shane Dawson]

See is your hair.

[Ryland Adams]

Welcome to your podcast. I can't see anyone from my vantage point on your podcast. I've never been able to see you guys on. On your podcast. And I just act like the camera's your face. I. We. We've known each other for 10 years. We know what we look like when we're speaking.

[Spencer]

We've been acquainted for 10 years around his family.

[Ryland Adams]

The other day I was like, well, we've been dating for 10. I was like, oh, I guess. Well, we're married.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

With children.

[Lizzie Gordon]

With children. Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Dogs, alpacas, cats. We have. So can we just say. I don't want to cut you off, but can I just say I was telling Spencer before this. I'm like, it feels like a press day.

[Spencer]

Yeah, it's like, it's a short press day, but it does feel like a press day.

[Shane Dawson]

No, babe, we're gonna figure it out. Did I just call you babe?

[Spencer]

But we've known each other for three years.

[Shane Dawson]

We've known each other.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, my God. We've known Spencer for three years. Yeah. Time's flying.

[Shane Dawson]

I know. It feels like 20.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's like he's growing up before our eyes.

[Shane Dawson]

I know. How old are you? I'm 27.

[Spencer]

Six. I'm turning 27.

[Ryland Adams]

When?

[Spencer]

August.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, a day after my sister or before my sister.

[Spencer]

When? Birthday.

[Lizzie Gordon]

The 22nd day before my dad's birthday is the 22nd.

[Shane Dawson]

Guys, are we all. Wait a minute.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Twins?

[Ryland Adams]

They're all Leos. Just let it sink in. Totally.

[Shane Dawson]

Silence for the Leos. Well, no, so I was saying it feels like press day because like, you know, when. When like people have a movie coming out or something, they go on talk shows and they're just like. They tell stories. That was so funny. Anyways, my new movie. So it's like we're kind of doing that with our Patreon, which, like, you know, but we're not gonna. We're not gonna do that. Well, I wanted you. Good story.

[Ryland Adams]

No, I wanted them to do that. I said, cuz Lizzy and I, we pre produce this talk show every week.

[Lizzie Gordon]

We like, we do.

[Ryland Adams]

We. I go through and By. By producing, I mean I go through my camera roll and see what happened to me this week.

[Shane Dawson]

Can I just do a quick little thank you to the chuggers?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, are the chuggers okay? Wait, what? Okay, the sippers. Well, the chuggers are different.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, wow.

[Ryland Adams]

This gets complicated.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I think they're both here.

[Ryland Adams]

The most hardcore sippers are the chuggers.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, they glug in the content.

[Shane Dawson]

They plug in glugging. They are glugging. I just want to give a shout out to you guys. I was first of all, you guys know I'm not going to get fully into it, but I have been so anxious about this for months. And it was. It really was like the lead up to launching it. Like me and Spencer every day. And we were just like me panicking, not knowing what to expect, not knowing what to do, being like, maybe we shouldn't do it. I don't know. I'm scared. And so when it finally happened, we did like the soft launch. God, I hate that term.

[Ryland Adams]

You're not even going to give us.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Like, we did a flaccid launch.

[Shane Dawson]

We did a nice shriveled launch for the chuggers specifically. And you guys were so supportive and like, nice and in the chat and everything. Like, made us feel so much better about everything. I was so not nervous anymore and, like, just felt so good and so excited. So thank you guys for being so supportive and so nice. Literally, not like one negative thing. Like, it was just so, so sweet. So thank you guys.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I have to say that our chugger community is literally one of my favorite spaces on the Internet because it is nothing but like, we have your back, people. And it's. It feels like such a safe space just to be.

[Shane Dawson]

Yes. I never believed the term safe space.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Now, I mean, I do now.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

Until we found you Patreon. But no, Shane's Patreon is live right now. You can check it out. There is the first vlog or episode of the stock you series. What are you calling it?

[Chris]

For real?

[Shane Dawson]

You know, I was talking to my therapist about this and about what you're.

[Ryland Adams]

Going to title the vlog.

[Shane Dawson]

Me and my therapist have been planning my bedroom for months. And she's like, on. She's like on board. She. And every time I back up and I'm like, never mind, I'm not going to do it. She's like, what makes you feel that way? I was like, well, I don't know, People are gonna think like, I don't know, whatever. And she's like, hey, like, you. You need to do something you're passionate about. Okay? So, yes. Cause, like, when I explain it, she's like, that sounds like more than, like, a vlog. And I'm like, I guess it's a docu series. So.

[Spencer]

Yeah, you call it, like, a vlog, you series?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Well, it's serialized.

[Spencer]

Is that a bed?

[Shane Dawson]

Well, I mean, the plan was to just do vlogs, but then, of course, because I have some cluster of mental illnesses, I was like, no, we're going crazier. We're editing, we're adding music, we're adding B roll. We're doing the most.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I just have to say that I didn't know the overall concept for your Patreon until I watched the first episode. And I was so lit and inspired by hearing you talk about using this as a platform to, like, bring your movie production company to life. And it made me feel, like, inspired to, like, try harder on the stuff that I kind of set by the wayside because of my postpartum whatevers. But, like, I'm, like, jazzed by it. Like, personally so inspired by it.

[Ryland Adams]

And it is a new way. I know. Like, even the landscape changes so much. Even two years ago, it's like the kiss of death to finance your own stuff because, like, you don't see a return. But now there's been, like, three or four different people that Spencer's actually kind of told us about each and every one of these, that there's so many streaming platforms and so many opportunities. It's not just like, it's. You have two opportunities to sell a show to somebody or it's.

[Shane Dawson]

That's it.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, it's like you can find a place, if it's a good piece of art, for it to live.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And no matter what, you specifically have, like, a huge audience, so you don't need to rely on the old school version of distribution where they even take your money that they didn't earn, and they just jump in at the final hour and say, here's 40% of what you invested in yourself, and we're going to take a big chunk of it ourselves, too. Like, now you're in control.

[Ryland Adams]

My biggest hope would be, though, that you can get funding to make something you're passionate about. And then one of these streamers does want to buy it, and then it's a success on one of those streamers, and another streamer takes note and is like, we want to fund your second project. And then it snowballs from there.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What's so interesting, though, is, like, Because I have some connections in, like, traditional media, and everyone over there is like, we want to work with creators. We want to work with people on YouTube. Like, we want to take people from, like, new media, but then they don't offer what you're worth, and they don't give you what you need to be successful to please your audience. And then at the end of the day, everybody's displeased, and nobody, like, walks away feeling like they were fully fulfilled, including the audience.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, yes. And the funny thing is, like, you know, we've been trying to get this movie made for. Since before you started working.

[Spencer]

Yeah. Right.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah. And it's five years now, maybe. And that was Steven Spielberg that just texted her.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It was not me.

[Shane Dawson]

Tell him we're here.

[Ryland Adams]

I think it was here.

[Lizzie Gordon]

We'll take the call.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, okay.

[Shane Dawson]

We've been in so many of these meetings where, like, pitching ourselves and pitching this movie and pitching so many things, and, like, the audience and being like, I think people care. People, like, whatever. And they get all excited about the idea of us doing a docu series, like, on my channel, like, documenting the making of the movie. But then when it actually. And they're like, yeah, that would be amazing. But then when it comes to the actual, actual movie, they're like, well, for that, you need, like, you need a celebrity to star in it because you're not enough for X, Y, and Z. And I'm like, okay. And then they give me a list of celebrities who are like, I don't want to be mean, but, like, you know, well.

[Ryland Adams]

And Shane's not even trying.

[Shane Dawson]

And I get it. Listen, I get it. But also, like, so that person is more valuable than an audience and me, that I've been doing for 17 years, and you aren't gonna give me money to make it unless I get somebody who can't act, who, like. And that sounds really mean, but, like, it's.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, but you're not wrong.

[Shane Dawson]

And I'm just like. And then the movie's gonna suffer because I have somebody who can't act but who's, like, famous because of this and that. And I'm like, this is so depressing. So it was like that over and over and over and over and over again to a point where I just, like, was done. And I was like, I can't do this.

[Spencer]

I think that also speaks to what we're saying, like, having the. Because, like, they. They want you. They're excited about the docu series because you've done successful docuseries before, and so it's like, well, we know you can do that, so do it again. The movie thing. Oh, we don't know. But then, you know, with the ability to create our own thing that I think they just like to see a proven things like, oh, that's a good movie. That's a good thing. We'll buy it, we'll do it. Instead of like, we don't know. You've never done it before. It's like you. So I think we're in a point where you just need to do it and just prove people like, yeah, I can do it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Like, it also just like enrages me because I feel like you don't deserve a piece of me. Then if you don't buy what I'm selling, you don't get to have what I earn.

[Ryland Adams]

And that's just kind of how it works. Nobody wants to take the first chance, but then the second he has a hit, everyone, that's just how the world goes.

[Lizzie Gordon]

This is another thing that was keeping me spiraling all night because you and I have been talking about a list of specific people and then we see something go. And I'm just like sitting in my bed being like, why does the dumbest shit get made? Like literally on the, On a low scale. So I'm talking about like ultra low budget, non union. Why does this get made for a budget? And you won't give this other shit a chance for the same budget, but nobody likes this other shit.

[Ryland Adams]

Literally.

[Lizzie Gordon]

These people are winning razzies. These people are getting razzies annually. Girl. Like, let's think about it.

[Chris]

Working rooms, though.

[Ryland Adams]

It's relationships, it's connections, it's. It's.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, but it's like, at what point do you stop giving your friends money to waste and start making money?

[Shane Dawson]

I was told by somebody who I love, by the way, so this isn't shade to them. But I was told like, hey, if you. Because I was saying the same thing. I was like, man, and by the way, I hope this isn't boring. We're not going to talk about this the whole time, but me and Riley are gonna fight about something.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I love this conversation though.

[Shane Dawson]

But I was like, you know, I was texting my friend, being like, oh my God, like this movie got greenlit for, you know, a couple million dollars. That's what we're looking for. Like. And a lot of the people that were involved in it passed on our thing, which I totally understood. Like, and these are great people, actors. But I was just like, what am I doing wrong? Is it because I was canceled? Is it this? Is it that? And he's like, no, it's. It really is. Like, they're just friends with them. And, like, if you want. If you want to do that, you have to go to the parties, you have to make the friends, you have to network. And I'm just so not that person. I've never been that person. Like, the closest I've been to that person was when 2013, when I would collab with a lot of YouTubers. And that was just what everybody was doing. And that was fun, but I'm like, I. I don't. What am I going to text? I'm not going to go to some party. Like, I mean, maybe I'll finally get offered Coke, but I'm not going to do it. But, like, I've never been.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Girl, we'll offer you coke.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay, thank you.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You want some coke?

[Spencer]

Celebration of the Patreon lunch. We're offering you.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Listen, I'm pregnant, so I got a lot of extra coke these days.

[Shane Dawson]

I did hear this is total side note. I was listening to a Kathy Griffin podcast or interview or something. She's so funny, but she was saying that people offer her Adderall all the time, or they used to. And she calls them Add A girls.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I love that.

[Shane Dawson]

That was pretty funny. Anyway, don't do Adderall if it's not prescribed.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Prescribed, or, you know, try it and then maybe get a prescription.

[Shane Dawson]

Add a girl. Also side note, it's gonna get deep today because I was watching, like, two hours of Miley Cyrus interviews. Don't.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, my gosh. I was talking about with.

[Spencer]

You were her fans, like, at this movie? Her fans were screaming at her to perform at a film festival she was preparing.

[Lizzie Gordon]

This was a concert.

[Ryland Adams]

We paid 800.

[Shane Dawson]

Dang, bitch. Imagine during this interview, Chris just starts yelling at me to sing.

[Ryland Adams]

Super like, we thought this was a concert. He was for our. Oh, my God. Do you own the rights to that, or am I going to get copywritten?

[Shane Dawson]

You know, that's another.

[Ryland Adams]

You do it so good.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay, this is a story nobody cares about, but years ago, and I signed an NDA. Never mind how many years.

[Lizzie Gordon]

The NDA might be moot at this point.

[Ryland Adams]

NDAs don't work anymore.

[Spencer]

That's not legal advice from the.

[Lizzie Gordon]

This motherfucker's like, you never need to reply to jury duty, and you don't have to listen to your NDAs.

[Ryland Adams]

And so far, I've been just fine.

[Shane Dawson]

I was working with someone who, like, oh, this is. It was such A mistake. But I was working with someone who, like the music video for Super Love. I think it cost, like, it was a lot. It cost a lot of money. And I was, you know, and the song production cost a lot of money because we were using, like, amazing people who wrote, like, all, you know, the Drake and Josh theme song, like, icarly theme song, like Ariana Grande music. And I love them. So it was like, a lot of what?

[Ryland Adams]

It's just like, everyone's either saying Ariana or Ariana.

[Shane Dawson]

It's kind of like Caribbean or Caribbean. You know what I mean?

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Or Carol and Carolyn and I just.

[Ryland Adams]

Like, Ariana and Shane's always done Ariana. And I'm like, what's Air Iyana?

[Shane Dawson]

Ariana, Whatever.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Coming from big dill guy over here, that's a crazy.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, you want to know what?

[Shane Dawson]

We.

[Ryland Adams]

We. We have to make the trek to Sonic. Shane sent me this morning their new Sonic menu. It's a big deal of a menu.

[Lizzie Gordon]

A big deal.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, Sorry. You were working with the Drake and Draws producers, Ariana Grande.

[Shane Dawson]

So I always invested in my own things. Right. Like, every short film, I put my own money in and, like, you know, lost it. I talked about this in the Patreon video. I don't know if I talked about this on our podcast, but, like, yeah, you know, you put the money in, you lose it. The YouTube AdSense is not great when it comes to, like, if you're putting that much money into one thing, whatever. So for I was doing all these short films and all these things, spending my own money, and then this, like, these people were like, hey, what if we pay for your music video? And I was just like, oh, my God, that would be amazing. Like, okay, but. And I. They might have told me this, but I'm just too stupid. I didn't fully understand, but basically they were. Now they own the song, so. And I didn't know that. So then the music video comes out, and it gets copywritten by someone else, and I'm like, it's my song. And they're like, oh, no, no, we own that. And I was like, I'm sorry, what? But it was too late. It was already like I had been hyping it up. I'm like, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. So then, yeah, it comes out. I made. I think I made money on, like, maybe itunes or something. I don't even know what the split was because I gave a lot to the writers, but co writers, I did some writing.

[Ryland Adams]

He's Actually a good songwriter.

[Shane Dawson]

But stop. But yeah. So that music video, I can't use it anywhere. I can't play the song anywhere. I can't do anything with that music video because I don't. And that's why I was like, I'm never doing that again. Like, grateful that they paid for the music video, but I'm never doing that again. Like, I'm owning everything I do because, like, it's so frustrating to not even be able to like, go on tour and sing my song.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Should we re. Record and do Shane's version?

[F]

Tour with it?

[Shane Dawson]

I can't even. Can we. Should we put. I can't even tour. Should we put a black and pink wetsuit? He is. You are the age I was.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh my God.

[Ryland Adams]

Can we recreate a super love music video for the Patreon?

[Shane Dawson]

Oh my God. Give me a red wig.

[Ryland Adams]

You love to direct music videos.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay.

[F]

By the way, I've heard that song so many times. And then for you to like sing a note now and it sound exactly the same. I was like, he's a real singer. He's not autotuned. It's the real deal.

[Shane Dawson]

Listen, guys, sprinkle it in so you don't forget. Wait, what were we talking about before this? Oh, the live stream. Well, let's move on from the p.

[Spencer]

Talking about, like, owning. I think it's. I wonder, like, cuz you know how like, Justin Bieber sold his, like, catalog to make money? Like all these artists are selling. They're kind of like so young. Like, are they going to have the same thing where they're like, oh, like, I don't own. Like, I. Like what's. Like, I don't understand how that's going to happen.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Like, Justin doesn't write a majority of his music.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm just saying I think it's less personal for him because he doesn't write a majority of it. Like, a lot of his work is collaborative. Like, if you. Actually, one of the things that I.

[Ryland Adams]

Think is so interesting is like, what's he selling really? Like, does he have the rights to.

[Spencer]

Sell it technically a co writer?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, I'm positive he's a co writer on it because I do. You do see Justin being a lot more creatively.

[Ryland Adams]

He's probably in the room writing with.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He writes. Yeah, he writes a lot of stuff. But I do know that some of his music is not like, it's someone else wrote it and brought it in.

[Ryland Adams]

A lot of artists are present.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I think the point behind Taylor's thing is like, These were the words on the pages of her diaries.

[Ryland Adams]

And so even she has collaborators.

[Lizzie Gordon]

There are horror cruxes. Okay. She has no collaborators. It is just Taylor.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay, can we talk about how I emailed Demi Lovato at 3am last night?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Why did you do that? That's crazy. Did you send it at 3am or did you schedule it for a normal hour?

[Shane Dawson]

Can I? Okay. I gave you that sound bite just for, like, a little teaser at the beginning, because that's, like, not fully what happened. I cannot see it.

[Ryland Adams]

Somebody was dragging my teasers. By the way, these teasers are so millennial.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And I was like, we are millennials. And we don't think that's stupid. We think it's awesome.

[Ryland Adams]

I was like, I'm not doing time codes on YouTube. So it's to show you if you're bored of one topic, there's more exciting ones coming.

[Lizzie Gordon]

There's at least one other topic to come.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, so Demi Lovato.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay, so you're welcome for the teaser.

[Ryland Adams]

Thank you.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay. Sticking my nose. No, it's my. It's my new. My new fixation. I just think there's something in my nose all the time. So I've been writing music with my friend, and just to have fun, whatever. And we wrote this song. I mean, he wrote a majority of it. It's so. It's such a smash hit. Like, the second you hear it, you're like, and I'm not. And I'm. He wrote the melody, right? So I'm not taking credit for that. But, like, the second you hear it, like, oh, this is a hit. And then I'm like, this is a Demi Lovato song. This is literally. And I played it for Rylan. He's like, this is a Demi Lovato song. And then so my friend's like, no, we should, like, do it ourselves or we should find, you know, whatever. And I was like, let me just. So I found her. Management's information.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, that's what you have to do.

[Shane Dawson]

And when I'm on the walking pad, I have no shame. No, it's crazy. Like, if you've ever gotten a text from me that you're like, this is out of character. I'm walking. Because, like, when I'm walking, I'm not thinking. I'm like, you know what I mean? So I'm like, draft. I'm sending this email, and I'm like, hey, this is really out of character for me. I've never done this before. I'm not doing this with any Other artist crazy. But like, I co wrote this song. I just had this feeling. I think it's a hit for Demi Lovato. Like I, you know, who can I send it to? What do I do? Like, you know, I'll never bother you again. Like, whatever, whatever. Haven't heard back, but it's Monday, baby. Who knows?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Next time don't qualify it. Just say hi, I have Demi's next hit, period. Bye. Yeah, really is though, because I feel like when you qualify, you're like, no, I am crazy and I know it. I never do this because I'm super crazy. I know. Because I'm that bitch. Because I. You used to get like a five page prologue to me introducing myself. Hey, I'm nuts. Sometimes I myself, I've got this podcast. I eat some fast food.

[Shane Dawson]

That's a song.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Whatever. So if you don't want to talk to me, I get it. I'm like a sewer rat. But like, I would really love the opportunity to be on your level.

[Shane Dawson]

Right on your level. Song title.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, and it's just the same.

[Shane Dawson]

Let's have a writing session. Let's switch up this podcast.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Okay, do it. Pull out Chris. Take notes, take the minutes.

[Shane Dawson]

Chris is a singer, by the way. He'll be taking some of the notes.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, so we're keeping. Oh, wait, I wasn't calling you fat, by the way. I was saying you took a sledgehammer. I'm wrapping back around.

[Lizzie Gordon]

This is a lame rap back. I just remember this is what he does. He's always like, okay, everyone's forgotten about the awful thing. I said, let me bring it back.

[Spencer]

Hold on.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And make it worse.

[Spencer]

In his head, the whole time everyone else is talking, he's just like, wait, bring it up, bring it up, bring it up.

[Shane Dawson]

To bring it back to Miley Cyrus. I was one of the interviews, I was watching.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, you're gonna leave a cliffhanger where I just said, I'm not calling you fat.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You're gonna bring it up in 40 minutes. It's fine.

[Shane Dawson]

Hold on to it, hold on to it. So during the Miley interview, they were like, you know, it was a really deep interview. And then the woman was like, so I don't even know if she had that. But she was like, she was really good. Yes. She goes, so I was talking to Jenna Ortega and Jenna said that a lot of child stars had the same trauma and blah, blah, blah. And then Miley was like. And then she goes, so what do you think about that? Miley goes, okay, so I wasn't Listening to that. Earlier, you asked me if I was popular in school, and I said, no, but, like, was I? And if I was, people are gonna be in the comments being like, she was lying. And so now I'm like, how do I reframe that to be like, maybe I was popular, but I don't think I was popular. And then the interview is like, I could tell you when. Not listening. You are Miley.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You are Miley.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, thank God. Okay, so I wasn't calling you fat. I was saying the floors in your gym shed are also uneven, and that's because you took a fucking sledgehammer to that.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And now he's airing out your pain publicly. He's like, remember that really traumatic part of your life and how you responded to it?

[Shane Dawson]

I just figured out what that's from. I've been doing this for three months going, wow. Anybody else know? No, It's a Shawn Mendes clip. It's a clip of him going, oh, wow.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Shane Dawson]

I don't know why he was doing that, but that's where it came from. I don't know how I saw it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I loved him. I know nothing of him, and I love him.

[Ryland Adams]

She just walks behind him shirtless at Fryman Canyon, and that's it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I do do that.

[Shane Dawson]

Know him.

[Ryland Adams]

Wait, no, no. Sean, can I just. It's pretty bold to.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

I don't understand being shirtless. And I know that's because my body issues, but even when I see, like, in shape people just shirtless, even around the house, I'm like, how do you. My little boobies.

[Ryland Adams]

Like, I would just YouTubers that are just always shirtless.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah. Or just at their house on the couch watching you eating cereal, shirtless. I'm like, ew, I don't want to look at my body hair while I'm eating.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Do you know that sometimes my husband goes pantsless and no boxers. Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

And he wears a shirt.

[Spencer]

I guess naked is weirder.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, he'll. Poo bear.

[Shane Dawson]

Wait, what were you going to say?

[F]

I've never related to anything you've said. More.

[Shane Dawson]

Thank you.

[F]

I hate being even in a pool. Even.

[Shane Dawson]

Like, I just don't like, confusing.

[F]

It's awful.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I don't want it.

[Ryland Adams]

I guess they want to show all the hard work that they're alone. Some of these vloggers are alone. You're. You're like, being so disciplined.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

You give up.

[Spencer]

So you give things.

[Ryland Adams]

You give up everything to look like.

[Shane Dawson]

Yes, those. But I'm also talking about guys with normal bodies. Like, they're just they like being shirts.

[Spencer]

It's just like a lack of shame or trauma.

[F]

It's also one thing if you're like, I don't know, at like a gym or if you're there, there are spaces, beaches, where it makes sense. But, like, there are people who are like in the middle of like a bustling city where everyone's in suits and they're shirtless and it's like, this is.

[Spencer]

When you brush them and they're like, sweaty.

[Lizzie Gordon]

When I was at that fucked up USC graduation a couple months ago, there was a guy, shirtless, running through campus in the shortest shorts during graduation. So there's like literally thousands of people in their caps and gowns and their whole families are there. And this asshole is just running, glistening. And I honestly could have killed him. I don't know why, but he filled me with so much rage.

[Ryland Adams]

Listen, if you're the one running around shirtless, good for you.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It was like one of those, like, I've been running cross country since seventh grade, so I just have some weak wrists. I'm not trying to exhaust myself. This is mile 32. My jaw slack.

[Shane Dawson]

Wow.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I hated him. I hated him.

[Shane Dawson]

That's a gif, and that's offensive. Wait, okay, so not offensive.

[Lizzie Gordon]

They're called GIFs.

[Shane Dawson]

You going like that, I feel like.

[Lizzie Gordon]

But it's not a gif.

[Spencer]

Oh, it's potato, I think. I think if you could say potato.

[Shane Dawson]

Ariana.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's potato. Potato.

[Chris]

Ariana.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Ariana Dildale.

[Shane Dawson]

Hold on. Women in the audience, leave a comment. Does your man just walk around the house shirtless? And I'm talking about any body type, any size. I'm not talking about, like, just the six pack boys. I'm talking about just. Just guys who walk around shirtless. I've been friends with people who do it and I'm like, they'll sleep over at my house. And they're just like, you know, shirtless when they wake up. I'm like, okay. But then the shirt stays off for like the morning. And I'm like, it's a pretty big.

[Ryland Adams]

Flex on temperature control. Like, I'm not that regulated to be able to just not have clothes.

[Shane Dawson]

And I don't want to look at people's bodies because, like, I don't want people looking at my body. So then it's like a lot of, like, trying to stay above sea level, you know?

[Lizzie Gordon]

What are you doing with the lights in the ceiling when your husband's pooh bearing, looking right at his dick, laughing only because it's like, what are you Doing?

[Shane Dawson]

I was never related to anything more.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't walk around with pants off.

[Shane Dawson]

You looking at my dick and laughing.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, you do that.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm just making sure.

[Shane Dawson]

Sometimes I don't know.

[Ryland Adams]

Audience laughs. I don't know if those are.

[Shane Dawson]

Anyways, Jimmy Patreon.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, no, I had asked you guys. I was trying to do a pre interview and Shane was like, no, don't. And I was like, are you kidding?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Pre interview?

[Spencer]

Well, I don't know what's happened in your life.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't. I wanted Spencer to prepare. I wanted him to, like, come with his good. Like, this is Jimmy Fallon work for us. He's huge.

[Spencer]

More than five minutes before he has.

[Ryland Adams]

His face huge in Times Square right now. I feel like he needs to deliver on his personal story in his life.

[Spencer]

That is crazy.

[Ryland Adams]

You want to rub the salt in her wound even more?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Guys, I can be happy for my friends While being left out out in the cold rain.

[Ryland Adams]

I feel left out too. Even though I'm up there.

[Shane Dawson]

It's pretty hot.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Thank you. I explained it to Joe and he goes, wait, what are you upset about? And I was like, I'm not on a billboard in New York. And he goes, why the would you be on a billboard in New York? Because everyone else is. And he was like, I don't know. And that's what I hate about my husband is he's not ever gonna have my side when I'm being irrational and awful.

[Shane Dawson]

Right.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And that's up.

[Ryland Adams]

I agree.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Do you have his back when he's irrational and awful?

[Ryland Adams]

I think one time I didn't publicly, I don't think. Personally, I think you're like.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You're like nodding.

[Shane Dawson]

No. I told him recently there was a situation. We're not gonna talk about it. There was a situation where I disagreed with him on something and I said, but publicly, I got your back.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, that's good.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't remember.

[Lizzie Gordon]

See, Joe doesn't even add that part. He just goes, it wasn't that.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, can we talk about it?

[Shane Dawson]

Do you want to talk about it? It's funny.

[Ryland Adams]

I mean, I don't mind because my intentions were not bad.

[F]

Now I wasn't.

[Ryland Adams]

It's about what I.

[Shane Dawson]

Wait, hold on.

[Ryland Adams]

I was gonna come.

[Shane Dawson]

Stop. Go to the Sip.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, we do a 10 minute section for the after sip here.

[Shane Dawson]

He made a joke that he thought was. It possibly could be misconstrued as mean. Oh, in a Patreon vlog on your guys' Patreon.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Right.

[Shane Dawson]

And then he showed it to me. And I was like, I don't think it's mean at all.

[Ryland Adams]

Because I knew she was asleep. So I brought it to Shane. It was like 10pm And I was like, dang it. I think how I delivered this camera cross really wrong, because that was not.

[Shane Dawson]

My intention specifically told him, listen, you and Lizzie have a very specific relationship. You guys are so mean to each other. And you love it, right? And you both love it equally. Very toxic. Let's look into that. Let's unpack that. And so then I was like, if you had said that to me, we would have had words.

[Spencer]

We would have had to step outside.

[Ryland Adams]

We would have been in couples therapy.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I mean, I. I text. I told you. I think even last night, I was like, no, that's the word we're using.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, but this is not my talk about it. So people don't think.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, okay.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, so.

[Ryland Adams]

And it was a callback. So Lizzie shows up to my house before we film this podcast, and she's. She's pregnant, and she's joking about how all of a sudden, her feet don't fit in her shoes.

[Lizzie Gordon]

They literally don't.

[Ryland Adams]

And she kept saying how, like, even off camera, she just kept joking about how fat her feet were. And then when we were leaving the world and going to be walking around, she was like, wait, can I use some sho you some shoes?

[Lizzie Gordon]

And, well, I literally couldn't walk in the shoes I had because my feet are so fat.

[Ryland Adams]

Couldn't fit in the shoes.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I literally could not get my foot fully.

[Ryland Adams]

I'm like, hey, I truly do not believe Lizzie is fat. And I know she knows I believe that, so. But my delivery was wrong.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He got in the car, he said, what's up, fatty?

[Ryland Adams]

No, I had Shane's croc. I had Shane's Crocs. And I said, that was a sentiment. I was like, here's for your fat feet or something.

[Shane Dawson]

And then you landed her Crocs. And you said. You said. First of all, you said, you. You walked in with a Crocs. You said, wait, are you filming? And Lindsay goes, yes. And then you said, okay, good.

[Spencer]

That is true.

[Shane Dawson]

And then he said, I had to get Crocs because her shoes don't fit her fat feet. And then you threw the shoes at her.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And then he spit on me.

[Shane Dawson]

That was crazy. So then. So then when you showed me.

[Ryland Adams]

And then I do, like, a fake apology. And then, oh, we're rolling out. Oh, girls.

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[Ryland Adams]

So my delivery was absolutely horrible.

[Shane Dawson]

Hold on. He shows me something. He goes, can I show it to you? I said, yeah. He shows me the moment, right? And then he pauses it and starts hysterically laughing, almost to a point of tears. And I was like, hold on, I need to watch it again because I think you're laughing. Laughing so hard I can't see it. So I re watch it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

That's Rylan.

[Shane Dawson]

He reassed. And he's like, can't catch his breath. And I was like. And then I said, listen. I said, okay. I said, the word fat is triggering to a lot of people, me included. But I see. What? You weren't calling her fat. You were saying fat feet. It is a callback, so I understand, but you will trigger at least one person.

[Ryland Adams]

You just have to know that my delivery was awful. And I knew that. Hold on. I want to. I want to explain what happened before we get into yours because why I decided to leave it in. In real time because then we go on for six minutes and then keep calling back to it, the whole video. And I thought that made the video so much better. I was like, if I cut this moment, I have to cut six minutes.

[Shane Dawson]

And then Riley goes, well, let me just show you that her feet don't fit. He scrolls back through the room, showing, it's a callback.

[Ryland Adams]

It's a callback.

[Lizzie Gordon]

When he shows, here's the proof that her feet are fat.

[Spencer]

I wasn't.

[Shane Dawson]

L shows your feet not fitting in this. They really didn't fit in those. They really didn't fit. And then he goes. He goes. He pauses it, and he goes, her feet don't fit.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And starts laughing so hard.

[Shane Dawson]

He's crying. And I was like, oh, my God. And then he goes, I'm posting it.

[Ryland Adams]

I'm posting you.

[Shane Dawson]

It's so funny. And I was like, you can post it. I have your back pump, but you will piss off at least one person.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I love what he says.

[Shane Dawson]

You just have to. That's what it is. And then he goes. He goes. And I said, call Lizzie. Like, what is she? She's like, she's asleep. She's asleep. And then he just.

[Ryland Adams]

I was like, you think I'd be showing you this if she wasn't asleep? I would just ask her if she was offended.

[Shane Dawson]

And then he goes, no, seriously, I really don't want to. And then I was like, I mean. And then he looks at me and he's like, but it's so funny.

[Ryland Adams]

Well. And he was like, if it were me, I would probably, like, tell you to cut it, but I don't want to tell you what to do. He's like, I know you want me to tell you. Like, no, it's 100% fine, but I don't know that I feel that it's 100% fine. And I was like, listen, I know Lizz knows my intentions. She knows what I meant. I might offend some people. And I was like, my intention isn't to hurt anyone's feelings or make them feel bad about themselves, but I do think, like, the episode kind of centered around.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He's a journalist, and he was just sharing the facts.

[Spencer]

He was exposing.

[Ryland Adams]

It's not even the truth.

[Shane Dawson]

I just was, like, excited the next day. Because the next day, I wake up to a bunch of screenshots from Lizzie of him being like, look at the comments. And all the comments are like, fat feet, club merch. Like, my feet are bad, too. And I was like, I told you. Like, people are gonna love it.

[Ryland Adams]

No. Later in the day, people started getting mad.

[Shane Dawson]

Really?

[Lizzie Gordon]

I true. I Truly was not offended. That is, we do have a very harsh way of speaking to each other, but I think rooted in all of it is love.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And we would never say anything truly hurtful about any. Well, no, I'm sure we would. I'm sure we would. I'm sure we would truly say.

[Ryland Adams]

But if it was truly something that, like, I meant and said, and it was a pressure point, I cut it out of the episode, it would be gone.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You would never know that it was that awful.

[Ryland Adams]

Proof.

[Shane Dawson]

What, so you meant it a little bit, but.

[Spencer]

And also in the moment, you said, is the camera on? Get. Like, get this.

[Shane Dawson]

That's.

[Spencer]

If you really meant to hurt her. I don't think you would be saying that.

[Shane Dawson]

Like, it wasn't leaked footage. Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

I didn't look great, but I was keeping it for the sake of the video.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And he's so funny.

[Ryland Adams]

I thought the scenario was funny. I did, like, my fake apology.

[Spencer]

And then.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

And you even said you were like, is it gonna. Am I calling everybody babe? And then you were just like, I want Pete. Like, he's like, well, some people might be like, oh, my gosh, this is like a new version of Ryland. We haven't seen, like, sassy gay, kind of.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, I was like, I don't think I'm actually a mean girl.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, you're actually. I would say you're not a mean girl.

[Spencer]

No, no, no.

[Shane Dawson]

You're very sensitive. Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

That the only reason I was going to cut it. Yeah, whatever, Whatever. It's there. It's on Patreon. It lives.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And you're so funny.

[Ryland Adams]

And there were a lot of people, like, in our chugger chat, which is supposed to be a sacred, safe place, some girl was trying to, like, unleash the Redditor. She's like, somebody from Reddit needs to pick this up. And I was like, like, this is the opposite of what this community is like. You're paying for us to be uncensored. And that's the other thing on YouTube. I probably would have cut it on Patreon, where it's like, we promised, uncensored. I'm like, well, that's what happened. It is what it is. Like, we're leaving it. It just is.

[Lizzie Gordon]

That's so funny. I cut out a fight with me and Joe for my Patreon vlog today.

[Ryland Adams]

What were you guys fighting about?

[Lizzie Gordon]

He was being such a bitch. And I was like, are you seriously going to make more work for me that I have to edit this out right now? And my face was so nasty in the videos. I got to edit that out.

[Shane Dawson]

That's Riley. That's right.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Joe's like, are you filming this whole time? I was like, yeah, there's cameras everywhere. Babe, wake up. We.

[Shane Dawson]

We had a fight on. And I promise this is not just all about Patreon, but we were filming our first office party podcast. Patreon podcast.

[Ryland Adams]

And Ryland Spencer's nodding his head. What? We fought.

[Spencer]

I'm just nodding that we were filming the podcast.

[Ryland Adams]

I've been nodding too much, so this was bad.

[Shane Dawson]

Do you remember when I was like, oh, my gosh, what was it even about? Oh, he. Rylan was holding. Because we have handheld mics, which you stole for your podcast.

[Ryland Adams]

Thank you. Except one of them doesn't work, so you fucked us.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay. Then he's like, doing this while he's talking. And I was like, stop. I was like, stop swaying it around like a dick. Like, talking to it because, like, we can't hear you. And then he just stares at me for, like. And I was like, I didn't. Was that mean? And then you were just like, what? And I was like, I don't know. It was really awkward, so I had to cut it because it made me. It made it look like, wait, who was doing that?

[Lizzie Gordon]

You're a nightmare.

[Shane Dawson]

And then so I'm like, it makes me look at him when I did it. And then Spencer looks uncomfortable. And I was like, I didn't do anything wrong.

[Spencer]

It's a crazy response to be on a podcast and just stop and just, like, stare someone.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, because I disagreed with him, but I was like, I'll comply.

[Shane Dawson]

Office party podcast. No editing. Make it easy.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Rylan doesn't give a, though.

[Shane Dawson]

But I'm like, I have to cut this, or else people are going to be like, what's the truth?

[Spencer]

That was.

[Shane Dawson]

That stare lingered, like, what does that mean? I'm like, damn it, Riley. No, I cut this. I was so mad.

[Ryland Adams]

The film doesn't lie.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Well, that's how I felt with Joe yesterday, because I was like, I can't edit the Disneyland vlog because it's too much to edit right now. I'm dying. Like, I just have to. I'll shoot something really, really fast. I won't have to edit it at all. I'll just drop it all on a timeline. And then he starts that. And I was like, are you. Get out of here. He's like, are you rolling?

[Shane Dawson]

Oof.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm sitting in front of a camera talking to no one.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, Spencer. Anyways, we've gone 37 minutes and haven't gotten to you yet.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, we know he's 26. Oh, we know his birthday's the 22nd. We know enough about.

[Ryland Adams]

It's the 23rd. Oh, the 21st.

[Lizzie Gordon]

The 21st.

[Ryland Adams]

Who's listening?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Maybe we do need more room. Spencer. Spencer's on an improv team.

[Spencer]

No, no longer. We just banned.

[Ryland Adams]

You broke up.

[Shane Dawson]

What? Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

Why?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Is it because someone had fat feet and someone else called it out?

[Spencer]

I just think we were just like.

[Ryland Adams]

They throw a chicken a McChicken.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

We went and got McKinnick of the Sip controversies.

[Spencer]

No, it. It was. It was just. It was just like. I felt like we were just getting worse.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh.

[Spencer]

And I don't think anyone was taking it. I don't think anyone was taking it seriously enough, me included. Like, no one was. Like, we. You know, in, like, a group like that, you need someone to be like, hey, guys, we're gonna do this, this, this. But no one wanted to, like, like, step up. One of the guys who was kind of in that role got hired on, like, a house team at, like, an actual, like, paid comedy show. Theater.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What theater?

[Spencer]

In the west side Theater.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He's on, like, one of the west side Comedy club. I used to just stand up there. He's got a little monthly show there.

[Spencer]

Okay.

[Shane Dawson]

Mad at me. Just stare at her.

[Ryland Adams]

Was it paid? I can't. We can't.

[Spencer]

We don't have eye contact.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I know. I'm literally like.

[Ryland Adams]

I know you're, like, tweaking out. I know you're trying to see, but this whole time. Suck.

[Spencer]

But, yeah, it was. We just. And then we had a. We had, like, an audition, like, a show thing, and it went really badly, and I was like, this is just, like. It's just over.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's hard being on an impro.

[Spencer]

It's an embarrassing thing to be on an improv team in the first place. So, like, if you, like. You know what I mean? Like, it. It just is, like, when it's not.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Working and you have to ask people to come and see. I one time lost it during a show, like, what you're describing, and looked at the audience because I was like, you guys play a part in this, too, and if you start clapping right now, this scene can fucking end and we can all go home, and no one has to suffer through another second of it if we all just put our hands together and clap us the fuck out of here.

[Shane Dawson]

That is meter and Conspiracy Corner. I'm like, no, but everybody's over it. Rylan's yawning. And I was like, guys, this is why people clicked on this video. Pretend to care. And Rylan's just like, I don't.

[Ryland Adams]

I got a taste of your own medicine. Or my own medicine, though, last week, because I was like, we brought an alpaca back, and this was on Shane's podcast, and I was doing a voice for the alpaca, and everyone was just looking at me, silent. And I was tickling myself to the core so much.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I think we love stuff.

[Shane Dawson]

This is not on Patreon. This will be on my. The Shane 2 channel all in, like, a week or something.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh.

[Shane Dawson]

So Rylan had an alpaca. You know, our alpaca thing. And he was like, what's it called?

[Ryland Adams]

Her name's Sally.

[Spencer]

Yeah, he was, like, doing ventriloquism.

[Shane Dawson]

I thought it was the funniest thing I've ever seen. I was laughing just like you laughing at her feet.

[Ryland Adams]

But I look out at the crowd, and everyone's just, like, deadpan staring at me.

[Spencer]

Like, I was where you said, so you couldn't see me.

[F]

It was hilarious, but it was also terrifying.

[Shane Dawson]

Chris was really scary.

[Ryland Adams]

Everyone just.

[Shane Dawson]

Jared was, like, gone.

[Ryland Adams]

He checked out.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah. Zoned out. What does he say?

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, he was zoned out. I was, like, doubled over, getting our hernia. Laughing zone.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's so funny when Ryland does things like that. He truly shines.

[Shane Dawson]

I agree.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

You need your own.

[Ryland Adams]

Thank you.

[Spencer]

Yeah, we gotta get you.

[Ryland Adams]

But the thing is, it's inconsistent. Something comes over me, and I just, like, black out.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He needs a wig or a prop.

[Chris]

Yep. Correct.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, exactly.

[Spencer]

Well, same with when you're Julie Jenny.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need an assignment. Yeah. Like, and that's why being an actor never clicked for me. It was, like, too similar to myself.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Well, no, it's all an assignment.

[Shane Dawson]

Are you literally Miley. Oh, sorry.

[F]

I was gonna say you'd be, like, a character actor where you're specifically doing, like, wild roles.

[Ryland Adams]

Only, like, I need one.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You have one.

[Ryland Adams]

Sorry, do I.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Does he not talk to you anymore?

[Ryland Adams]

No.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What's his name? Jeremy?

[Ryland Adams]

Tyler.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Tyler.

[Ryland Adams]

I need to call Tyler.

[Spencer]

I don't know, just based on the name Tyler.

[Shane Dawson]

I love the name, but every Tyler I know is gay.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, really?

[Shane Dawson]

Right.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I know a straight Tyler.

[Shane Dawson]

I know a couple gay tithers.

[F]

I only know gay Tyler.

[Shane Dawson]

Whoa. I know. No, I say is. Miley said in an interview. They're like, why don't you act more? And she's like, I can only play myself. And then. But if you Give me a really crazy character. I could try that. But if it's not like, just like me, because I can be me better than anybody. And I was like, rylan, wow.

[Ryland Adams]

I relate to Miley today.

[Lizzie Gordon]

But I also think that's just. That is a good actor. A good actor is just authentically vulnerable on camera. Just playing and the role becomes them.

[Ryland Adams]

And I think that's unless you're Daniel.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Day Lewis, in which you become the role. But also like, no one can stand that guy. I mean, personally speaking, right?

[Shane Dawson]

Because I love Elizabeth Holmes. Did I tell you guys about this? No. Okay.

[Chris]

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[Shane Dawson]

Harry's.com sip so I'm like, you know, refreshing the. Because it tells me when people sign up for the Patreon and it gives me their name and everything. So I was like messaging people like, thank you, which they probably think it's AI.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's just you on a lock pad, unhinged.

[Shane Dawson]

It was just me like crazy crying. Anyway, so one of them was Elizabeth Holmes. I was like, what? Okay, I Was like, first of all, I know it's not the real Elizabeth Holmes, like, the con artist in prison. But then I'm like, but what is it? Because in jail, they have.

[Ryland Adams]

She needs entertainment.

[Shane Dawson]

They have Internet, they have money because they, you know, they buy cigarettes and candy. And I'm like, what if she is a patron? That's iconic.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Honestly, that's pretty sick.

[Ryland Adams]

That would be so cool.

[Shane Dawson]

So Elizabeth Holmes, shout out, chugga. Hey, girl slash, whatever we're calling you.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Is she a chugger?

[Ryland Adams]

Well, they don't have a name yet over there.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I liked Eaters.

[Ryland Adams]

The eaters. Eater.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, because we're eating that content. Oh, what does it mean? Ass eaters?

[Spencer]

It's like. Well, yeah, it's like someone who, like, sucks dick really good.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, that's like a. Rylan's relating.

[F]

I thought it was the opposite of.

[Spencer]

Like, a. I literally talked about this.

[Ryland Adams]

On the podcast the other night.

[Spencer]

Shane Dawson, podcast.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, really?

[Shane Dawson]

Rylan is so.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, really?

[Ryland Adams]

Must have missed that one.

[Spencer]

But that's, like, a thing. It's like, oh, she's like an eater. Like, she. Like, she gobbles it up.

[Ryland Adams]

What were you gonna say, Shane? You're gonna give me my flowers?

[Shane Dawson]

He wants his fucking flowers for blowjobs more than anybody, which maybe could be Miley, too. I don't know.

[Ryland Adams]

The other guy, he was. He said, like, he requested something, and I was like, I already gave the performance of a lifetime today.

[Shane Dawson]

I was like, what are you talking about?

[Ryland Adams]

I was like, how'd you forget?

[Shane Dawson]

I was like, okay. He really. I remember. This is too much. Should we talk? I mean, it's one of the first times that we. You know, intimacy. He goes, what did you. You say afterward? What did you say? You just said, no, I can't say this.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He says, you're welcome.

[Ryland Adams]

I mean, I t. You can cut it.

[Shane Dawson]

You can cut it. You just said, maybe I should give.

[Chris]

A course on Patreon.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, you should.

[Spencer]

Like a master class.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

He literally turns to me, and I don't know why it came up. And then he just.

[Ryland Adams]

Banana.

[Shane Dawson]

I don't know. I just, like. It just. I'm just a good.

[Ryland Adams]

What? No, I didn't.

[Shane Dawson]

Yes, you did.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You have no memory.

[Ryland Adams]

That is being.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm just a good.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, I've never heard a human say that. Like, that's pretty wild. It's pretty wild. But, like, you're crazy. It was number three. It was. We. It had been the third number three.

[F]

No, not that number.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, Chris has left that up for a long time.

[Shane Dawson]

I'M like a good bottom, but you put your number threeing all over the place. Master class, sweetie.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Good bottoms. Nowhere to number three. And it is not on this couch.

[Shane Dawson]

It's not in Vegas for the first time in a mall. I think we talked about that on this podcast.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't think that's too much.

[Shane Dawson]

He turns to me in the middle of the mall. He's like, we are never doing that again. I was like, oh, my God. Okay. He didn't know he had.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He was vulnerable.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, yeah, I was a slut before I was tamed and was number three. And so I was like, using protection all the time because it's scary out in Los Angeles. And so when safe slut.

[Lizzie Gordon]

That's merge.

[Ryland Adams]

I was a safe slut. I was a safe slut. So imagine my surprise when I'm in Vegas at 3am running to the bathroom, thinking, I have to diarrhea. But it's just come.

[Spencer]

Can you guys imagine? It's surprising.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Imagine put yourself in my shoes. If your feet are thin enough.

[Ryland Adams]

We still haven't decided where it goes in women.

[Lizzie Gordon]

So no women. Confirmed.

[Ryland Adams]

You're number threeing out your vagina. I. We've had this conversation so many times.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Still not as gnarly as your number three that it doesn't feel like.

[Ryland Adams]

So diary gets absorbed.

[Shane Dawson]

You peed out.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Well, here's the interesting thing. You can't pee it out, right? Because they're different.

[Ryland Adams]

We've done this conversation 18 times. People are sick of it.

[F]

And I still don't know.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't either, Chris. And we never will.

[Spencer]

Just.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's like a drippy faucet. It.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, I asked my teacher when we did the whole sex ed thing, like in fourth grade. Yeah, whatever. That was a question. And when I asked it, the whole class went, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they wanted to know too. And it was like, okay, so if a girl and like you, it goes in there and then you let it out, but then where does it go?

[Ryland Adams]

See, and that's confidence, being able to ask what you don't know.

[Shane Dawson]

And the teacher I remember, she was just like, yeah, Just, you know, slowly comes out. You either go to the bathroom or whatever. Like, she answered it so honestly.

[Ryland Adams]

So it's not an urgent diarrhea.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's not an urgent diarrhea, but it.

[Ryland Adams]

Does come out lucky.

[F]

Yeah, I for some reason thought it got absorbed. I don't know why I thought.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I mean, one or two could get absorbed, but that turns into a baby.

[F]

Right?

[Shane Dawson]

Right.

[Ryland Adams]

Divide that in the load for Me so I can see visually what only one.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Divide that in the load.

[Spencer]

Divide the load by sperms.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, Like, I guess everyone's load is.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Keep for asking for math.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, who else is gonna be vulnerable here? I think it's been enough on me this episode. What's going on over here?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Over here?

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, I mean, you have a lot of stories.

[Shane Dawson]

Talk about something.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah. Is it about me? Talk about yourself.

[Shane Dawson]

I already did that.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, okay. What do you want to say?

[Shane Dawson]

Well. Nah, never mind.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Spencer]

That should be the whole podcast.

[Ryland Adams]

This is James Cage. Shane always wants to tell the story and he'll always start it and then he'll ever and say, oh, no, never mind. I couldn't, I couldn't. And everyone's like, come on, Shane.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, because some. Because I'm just like, oh, is this boring? Oh, is this what? Probably not too much. Well, let me look. I took notes. Well.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, so you did pre produce the show.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, I took notes. No, I took notes for our the office party, but I feel like I can steal a couple of those because I have too many.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, you could share a couple with us over here at the SIP on your promotional tour when we're trying to get people to subscribe to your Patreon.

[F]

It's really reassuring knowing that before you say a story, you're like, is it boring? Because, like, you're. You come off very confident. You're a really good storyteller. And before I speak, I'm always like, oh, it's gonna be awful. Don't speak. I'm wasting time right now. I feel like I'm wasting everybody's time.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm gonna just mute Chris.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah. Wait, that was like 1/10 seconds. I'm never gonna get back. Chrissy, you're such a good storyteller.

[Ryland Adams]

Well, while Shane's looking into it, do you want to expose your mommy and me drama?

[Chris]

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[Ryland Adams]

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[Lizzie Gordon]

I mean, we are deep enough into the episode at this point that they're probably not watching.

[Ryland Adams]

No, I don't think so. We're sitting at the kitchen counter this morning, and Lizzy's just like, shit, yeah. And, like, my nanny's, like, in the kitchen with us, and Lizzy's just like.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I was like, lizzie, like, your nanny hasn't come to expect that from me. Like, she doesn't. She hasn't been known that I'm gonna be explosive.

[Spencer]

Even when we were walking to the shed, she was like, jesus Christ.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, I was gonna walk into traffic, and, like, there's no coming back.

[Ryland Adams]

And this is what. Like, this is actually your karma. And I'm sorry that I'm saying this is your karma. But moments before we started, this drama happened. She was like, I can't believe you're not in mommy groups. You're doing mommy.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, because my mommy group is so supportive. Like, we have that, and that's honestly where this problem arose. Well, I was trying to be supportive, but I misread and then. But honestly.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, take us back.

[Lizzie Gordon]

One of the mothers in my group said that she had recently been shamed by another woman who's not in the group. The mother was allegedly shaming the woman in the group for not feeding their child appropriately and was, like, shocked by the. The amount of ounces that the baby was consuming. And then later on in the conversation, it was revealed how many ounces the outsider was feeding their child, and that was a shocking number.

[Ryland Adams]

Tell us else.

[Lizzie Gordon]

It was 9 ounces of formula a day, which is not enough. Not enough.

[Ryland Adams]

Yep.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And so I said, oh, you know, in a room where we don't judge other moms, I am judging this woman. That baby is hungry. And I said that. And then I said three more things where another mom had very PC Lee been like, well, you know, I never know anybody's babe. We're all different. And, like, things and stuff and stuff. And I was like, well, I'm not as emotionally mature as you, Marissa. And that baby is starving.

[Shane Dawson]

Starving.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm calling the cps, like, all these things. And then I get a sidebar from another one of the moms. She goes, lizzy, you're talking about the mom in the group that is our friend who is feeding her child those ounces, and you need to stop.

[Spencer]

That's the worst feeling.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I was like, are you kidding me? I'm gonna kill myself. I would have never said anything like that in the group chat. I would have just shut the up. I would have just shut the up and never said anything. Her child's obviously not underfed. Like, he's junk monk. Like, God damn it. She, like, calls me on the phone. She's like, I think you just need a private message her, because everyone knows you're a little unhinged.

[Shane Dawson]

I was like, no, just.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm gonna walk into traffic right now. I can't. Should I leave the group? Should I just exit the chat?

[Ryland Adams]

Never go to class again?

[Lizzie Gordon]

She's like, you don't have to do that. I was like, I think that's the only option at this point. Four times I doubled down. No, that vision's crazy. That baby needs to be fed. Like, everyone's like, that is best.

[Shane Dawson]

I'm like, yeah, feed that fucking baby.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He's starving.

[Ryland Adams]

And then we're like.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And then I started hitting up the other moms, and I was like, you need to just start flooding the chat. Flood the chat. Maybe she didn't see it. And they're like, how you can tell if she's seen it? Like, swipe to the left on it, and you can see everyone who's seen it. I was like, she's seen it. She's seen all of it. I'm like, I hit up another mom whose baby had.

[Ryland Adams]

Why didn't you just hit up her?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, because I can't hit her up. Because my only girl. My only. Let me finish the full story. My only defense is full ignorance, okay? Because no matter what, if I just always pretend to never have known. I Can't be held accountable for my own actions because you know that I can't be held accountable for my actions. You know, you guys know I don't get held accountable for my actions. I can't handle that kind of stuff.

[Ryland Adams]

Her solution is always to jump in traffic.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I just walk in into traffic. It's all you can do when you've been wrong. There's nothing else you can do. And so I was thinking. I was like, I'm like, texting Jessica. I'm like, okay, maybe you should write me an apology. And I'll just cut and paste it, and I'll send it to her privately. I'm texting. I'm texting my other friend in the group chat. I'm like, what the are you doing? Dealing with your sick baby. Get in this chat and save me. And she's like, hold on, hold on, hold on. What are you talking about? And I was like, what do you mean, what am I talking about? I've been shit talking this mom to her face in the group chat unknowingly for, like, an hour. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're wrong. I just reread it. They are talking about the other baby. The other baby is the underfed one. The baby in the group only has 20. Our group Baby is fed. So good news. I was talking the right person who was not in the group. All of it was nothing. And I almost. Yeah, that's a story.

[Ryland Adams]

She literally went into crisis mode. She was. Imagine if I was pacing around the family room on the phone with seven people.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You can't come back from that. It's like when you screen grab a conversation, then you accidentally send it to the person you screen grabbed it from. And you can't be like, I didn't.

[Spencer]

Oh, yeah.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I didn't screen grab that to talk about.

[Ryland Adams]

You see someone else on an email, oh, my God.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, it's over.

[Shane Dawson]

But. And thank God that you don't like to apologize, because if you would have liked to apologize, I was. Made it worse.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Well, my first instinct was like, Give it 10 minutes. Give it 10 minutes. I also hit the group chat with another selfie where I looked ridiculous and stupid. So it's like, what do I know? Yeah, flood the chat. Always first thing. Flood the chat.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah. Wow. I felt like I was in the White House. I feel like I was Elon. You were Trump.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

Like crazy.

[Lizzie Gordon]

God, I love their breakup story.

[Shane Dawson]

Nothing about it, because I was. I was having a breakdown about launching a Patreon So I kind of missed it. But like. Yeah, I guess, honestly, Yeah, I missed it too.

[Lizzie Gordon]

But the memes really hate each other.

[Ryland Adams]

Yes.

[Spencer]

Yeah.

[Shane Dawson]

You know, okay. Interesting.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Interesting.

[Shane Dawson]

It's kind of. It reminds me of like in the YouTube world where you see two YouTubers like friends, but you know, they hate each other and you're like, this is not gonna end well.

[Ryland Adams]

And they use each other for as many views as they can get, and then it's ugly.

[Shane Dawson]

And then everybody's like, oh, my God, I thought they were. And I'm like, once they can no.

[Ryland Adams]

Longer gain from each other, it's just split.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, it's crazy. Wow. Wow. Okay. I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna pull a Miley right now. I kind of have to pee, but I'm not gonna stop the showdown. I mean, you know what? My mind might be fixating.

[Ryland Adams]

I mean, we're close to an hour, so unless anybody's brought an hour. I mean, did you bring a produced segment to the show?

[Shane Dawson]

Let me go back to my notes.

[F]

I mean, Spencer started talking about the. The billboard very briefly, that we didn't really get the billboard.

[Shane Dawson]

Don't call me that. The billboard. Okay. Yeah. So, okay, question. Yeah, you're on a billboard. So did you, like, tell anyone? Because I didn't tell anyone. Well, I told Instagram, but, like, I realized I'm like, oh, I guess I didn't even like, text my family. But why would I like, hey, I'm.

[Ryland Adams]

On a billboard that you're never gonna see.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Wake up, I'm on a billboard.

[Ryland Adams]

Unless you're gonna travel across the country to see it, then there's no way.

[Shane Dawson]

I know it's kind of a scam that we're on it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

My dad lives in New York, so if I was ever on a billboard, I'd be like, dad, go see me on a billboard. But as my husband pointed out, there's no reason for me to be on a billboard.

[Shane Dawson]

Stop victimized.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, I will say this. I hate how often I make this billboard about me because I am really excited for you guys. But also a self centered gofundme for.

[Spencer]

Like a billboard in New York.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I actually have.

[F]

But it's also truly unfair that yours is not like, why is our Patreon get a billboard and not yours? Like, that doesn't make any sense. You guys have been, like, doing the show forever.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Ryland invented Patreon.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, I was there from day one.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, the billboard. That is so funny. If you're there, please take a picture and send it to Us. Because it's hilarious. Like, it also. And listen, I. I was very honest with Patreon about it because. Because they were like, at the end. No, no.

[Ryland Adams]

After you thought you had gotten away with.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, so what they did was they were like, you know, before I, you know, launched or whatever, they were like, oh, we have a space on our billboard. If. And they told Morgan the same thing. We have a space on our billboard. And Morgan's like, are you gonna do it? Should I do it? Like, what do we do? And I was like, yeah, let's do it, I guess. But then I was like, but I don't want to be on a billboard. I don't have a. Like, if just a picture of me on a billboard is weird. Like, I don't want people to, like, throw things at it. So then I was like. Well, I was like, what if I just did the podcast art? And then I'm like, but technically, the Patreon isn't the podcast Patreon. But also, like, it's kind of free promotion for our podcast, and it would be more fun to be on a billboard with, like, all of us. Like, that's so iconic. Like, all of us hugging. So then I just, like, sent them the image, and I'm like, here you go. And then they were like, great. And I was like, okay, well, what.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Do they care, right?

[Shane Dawson]

And then a few days later, I, like, emailed him at, like, 2am on the path.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Dawson]

And I was like, hey, man, I just have to be honest. Like, I can never lie about things like this. Like, you. You are aware that the. The Patreon is like, Shane Dawson, and the podcast is different, so it's not actually the same. And then on the billboard, it says Shane Dawson next to the Patreon logo. So, like, it's. It's kind of a lie, but it's not really a lie. But I don't want you guys to be mad that you gave me a billboard for something that's not real and blah, blah, blah. And then he goes, it's adjacent. It was just like, the mommy me thing. I worried or nothing. Nothing.

[Ryland Adams]

I saw there was a statistic, like, 80 or 85% of the things you worry about never happen. So stop worrying. Girls.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I saw a statistic that, like, pickles are great until you're in one merch.

[Shane Dawson]

Merch on, like, a pickle jar.

[Ryland Adams]

We love that.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

Lizzy sent it to me, and I said, wow, that actually made me lol. Yeah, you had to, like, be. You had to receive the text message and like, like day hour, eight of the day with your kids hitting you in the face.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, and I have to pee.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, bye.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Go pee right now.

[Ryland Adams]

Do it. Stop.

[Lizzie Gordon]

You do it right here.

[Ryland Adams]

Cutting.

[Chris]

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[Shane Dawson]

Oh, we're filming.

[Ryland Adams]

Yep. Oh, we're back.

[Lizzie Gordon]

We're back. And we're back.

[Shane Dawson]

That felt so. I feel so present.

[Ryland Adams]

We were starting to think you were. I mean, it was a long time.

[Shane Dawson]

Was it?

[Lizzie Gordon]

It's not a long time. He just pees in the bushes out back.

[Shane Dawson]

I know.

[Lizzie Gordon]

And he used to make me just pop a squat back there.

[Ryland Adams]

I didn't make you do anything.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He'd be like, just pee behind the thing.

[Shane Dawson]

Stop.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Here's a tissue.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah, See, you're doing good. You know how to do this.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I'm such a victim.

[Shane Dawson]

Wow. Whoa. Okay, so wait, what else? What's going on? Didn't we used to do like, fun little, like, games on this podcast? I remember Screenshots fire.

[Ryland Adams]

Let's bring it back.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What? Screenshots fire.

[Ryland Adams]

So you have to go into your photos album and then you have to go to your most recent. They break it down by categories. So you do screenshots.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, no.

[Ryland Adams]

Oh, is this bad for you?

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, it's bad for you.

[Ryland Adams]

Why?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Because I screenshotted you.

[Ryland Adams]

What do you mean?

[Lizzie Gordon]

I don't remember why, but I do know I screenshot you recently.

[Ryland Adams]

Wait, why can't I find screenshots anymore? Media. Go to media, type grapes. And then it's like, since the update.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I can see Wednesday.

[Shane Dawson]

Wait, how did you find this?

[Spencer]

Do you want to see? Do you want to see one of mine? I don't think I can even show this on camera.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Shane Dawson]

Spencer, what is it?

[Lizzie Gordon]

What is it?

[Shane Dawson]

What the hell is that?

[Spencer]

It's Gru sticking his nose in a minion's butt.

[Ryland Adams]

No, that's pretty gay. Is that gay porn?

[Shane Dawson]

Where did you find that?

[Spencer]

I'm like, Rule 34. I always try to find funny things.

[Ryland Adams]

What's that?

[Spencer]

Friends? Rule 34 is a website. It's like the. It's like a rule or Internet rule that if it exists, there's porn of it. And so there's a website called rule34.com where it's like, it's always like drawings. And you. If you think of like, any, like, I think. Tell me, say anything right now, and I can find a say any.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Is that a trap?

[Spencer]

What do you think?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Did you trust you?

[Ryland Adams]

Did your friend, like, say something really gay and so you had to send him something gay back?

[Spencer]

No, it was.

[Ryland Adams]

My friend loves minions, which is inherently gay.

[Lizzie Gordon]

An adult friend.

[Spencer]

And so. And then I found a video on my Instagram feed. Shout out Spencer's likes of a guy. Like, I love the Minions. I want to come with the Minions. I like it. He like, he really loves the Minions. And so I was like, this is you. And then he was like, hahaha. And then I looked up minion porn and I was like, this is what you want to do to minions? Stick your nose in there, butthole. But Rule 34 is great.

[Shane Dawson]

Can you send that to Rylance?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Can I ask you a question, Spencer, a little personal?

[Spencer]

Yep.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Are you a sexual deviant? Because what does that mean? Your. Your likes all tend to be about severely.

[Ryland Adams]

Some of us in this room don't know what deviant means. Whatever. I'm confident enough to say that I'm not here with everyone. So just tell me.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Like, I don't want to pass judgment on the way I describe the word deviant.

[Spencer]

No, no, because this is the safe.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Space, even for sexual deviance.

[Shane Dawson]

Like a monster.

[Ryland Adams]

I like, are you a sex monster? Is that what you mean by that?

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, it's like, are you into the fringes? Like, why are your likes all about? Like all of like, the way my algorithm gets with because of Spencer's likes is it's all sex. They're sexual things.

[F]

The definition of demons.

[Spencer]

I got a DM that was like, spencer, I love you. I love the podcast, but you're ruining my feed. I have to unfollow you. That's a badge of honor.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I started getting really weird things. My algorithm and I started screen grabbing it and putting it on my story. And I was like, why is this happening? And everybody's response was, it's Spencer. His sister in law text me. She goes, it's Spencer. I was like, what the Stacy even is? Yeah. And then I'd hit Spencer up about it. Stacy said that you're ruining Stacy's.

[Ryland Adams]

And then she has wholesome. A wholesome mommy Instagram.

[Shane Dawson]

Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

And then it has millions and people's asses.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Gluten free vegan. And then Spencer's sexually deviant life.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, hold on, Chris. What's deviant mean?

[F]

It means departing from usual or accepted standards, especially in social or sexual behavior.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like the fringes of sexual fetishy things. And you literally, when I hit you up and I was like, why is everyone telling me you're the one up my algorithm? You said, is it like crazy sex stuff or something like that? Those were your defined adjectives.

[Ryland Adams]

Is it too personal to tell us? Like your porn star?

[Lizzie Gordon]

I need to know. We can cut it out. Yeah.

[Ryland Adams]

Yes, it is. I mean, everyone's wondering, are you stuff that.

[Shane Dawson]

So that means it is crazy.

[Ryland Adams]

Yes, it's deviant.

[Shane Dawson]

No, mine is homemade in love.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Lizzie Gordon]

Mine's like, women actually enjoying sex.

[Ryland Adams]

Sex actually enjoying sex.

[Spencer]

Women actually humming for once. It's not stuff I would say, even though you don't have to tell us. I'm fighting a losing battle every time I say you don't have to tell us. It's not that I'm like super into this stuff sexually. It's more that I think it's really. I think it's really interesting that people are creating it and that it's on Instagram. Like, like, oh, it's crazy. That almost made me throw up. And it was someone eating yogurt and berries off of someone's feet and it.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Wait, why would that make you throw up? Why do you think? Why do you think? I literally am like, rubbing berries off my calves right now. Like, what do you mean? That's gross.

[Spencer]

I. I mean, here, I'll see. Just like, the image of it is just so disturbing.

[Shane Dawson]

I saw on my feed it was a girl. And the cat option was. Or on the screen was when you're being chased and then you realize it's Spencer from Shane's podcast. It's a girl. She's scared. She's, like, running, and then she realizes it's Spencer and she goes. And then she took her shirt off.

[Ryland Adams]

What?

[Shane Dawson]

And it cuts. I was like, that's iconic.

[Spencer]

I don't chase anybody.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, she's saying she loved it. She said she loved it.

[Spencer]

I know, but I'm putting it out there, just in general.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He'll only. He only chases. Replaces those who consent to it.

[Spencer]

That's just not.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, he's. He attracts. He doesn't chase.

[Ryland Adams]

What was in your screenshot, Shane? While Spencer's looking. I'm not done with you. I'm just sidebarring.

[Shane Dawson]

Mine is. And I can't believe they're not here today. Hi. For the launch, the churro cake from. I know.

[Ryland Adams]

We could go try those.

[Shane Dawson]

Hold on. Say it.

[F]

I'm.

[Shane Dawson]

Churro.

[Ryland Adams]

I'm. You can roll the R for a little longer.

[Shane Dawson]

Churro. Ca.

[Lizzie Gordon]

How do you know when a roll's appropriate?

[F]

When there's two Rs or more, that's when you get.

[Lizzie Gordon]

There can be more. Well, many more. Usually just two, but in some rare cases, just three.

[Ryland Adams]

We could always hit that on our way out for the after sip.

[Shane Dawson]

Well, then I'm hitting that on the delivery app right now.

[Spencer]

That looks so good.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, my God. Ryland. Oh, my God, Ryland. What, mama?

[Chris]

What mama?

[Shane Dawson]

Peanut butter cup brownie. Hi, Reese's. Hi.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, so the food portion's gonna be.

[Chris]

On the Patreon this week. Week.

[Ryland Adams]

Sorry, girls.

[Shane Dawson]

French toast. Cookie about it, but I'm trying. What's that big old clumpy?

[Lizzie Gordon]

I think it's Butterfront.

[Ryland Adams]

I'll have to order this.

[Shane Dawson]

Let's put on Lizzy's feet. Eat it, please.

[Ryland Adams]

Let's lick it off.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Make Spencer throw every bite.

[Shane Dawson]

Our feet are so thin, they won't be able to.

[Ryland Adams]

Chris, did you have a good screenshot?

[F]

I'm sorry, I think I like food too much. Like, it does something to me.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Are you hard?

[Ryland Adams]

Did you have a good screenshot?

[F]

Is it just any screenshot?

[Ryland Adams]

I mean, in your last 10?

[F]

Nothing exciting.

[Ryland Adams]

I don't have any great screenshots either.

[Shane Dawson]

Okay. The search right here is fucking up my order.

[Ryland Adams]

Shane got a new webcam.

[Shane Dawson]

What?

[F]

I do have one funny thing. So it was about the whole, like, Elon Musk, Trump, like, debacle that was happening. There was someone who put Elon Musk on Twitter right now. And it was like a photo from Mean Girls where it's like, this girl's the nastiest skank bitch I've ever met.

[Shane Dawson]

There were a lot of those that made me laugh. E. I call him E. How? E. Well, he's a friend of the Pod and T ent he's not. I was just kidding. I only said that because people were making AI videos of Elon being like. I was watching the Shane Dust podcast and then I was getting texted from. People thought it was school. Being like, you know, Eli.

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, I saw that too. And I also thought that was real.

[Shane Dawson]

That is so funny.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I think I.

[Ryland Adams]

You don't think I would have told you, like, Elon's a guest?

[Lizzie Gordon]

No, you don't tell me anything. He wasn't a guest. Guessed though. He was just, like, saying it on his own. And I literally. I almost. I might have texted you, Shane being like, did you know about this?

[Shane Dawson]

Probably. Yeah. I got an influx that day. I thought I was canceled again. I was like, oh, God.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Oh, God, how triggering it was just.

[Shane Dawson]

People being like, Elon is knows you.

[Ryland Adams]

What'd you find, Spencer?

[Spencer]

It's. It's tough. I mean, it might have to show it on the after sip.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I don't know.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, I'm deep in my life.

[Lizzie Gordon]

What is it?

[Spencer]

Oh, it was just the. I was just trying to find the. Oh, the feet of the feet.

[Ryland Adams]

Right.

[Lizzie Gordon]

We can recreate it. It's not a big deal. You know what?

[Ryland Adams]

I love Lizzie, and I will recreate and repost.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I love the feeling of berries bursting between my toes while someone just spits a little bit of, like, spitty mixed Greek yogurt with no sweetener on me.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, that was all for you. Did you have a good screenshot before we go, Shane?

[Shane Dawson]

Sorry, I'm trying to order you food.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, the crumbles. Where are your screenshots?

[Ryland Adams]

I didn't have any good ones.

[Lizzie Gordon]

Yeah, right.

[Shane Dawson]

Showed my screenshot. See, he doesn't listen.

[Ryland Adams]

I, like, Shane got a new webcam and he was like, asking me if the quality. Quality was good. And I was like, I don't know, girl. So I screenshotted it and sended it to him. Sent it.

[Shane Dawson]

Oh, I had to get it. I had to get a webcam. I felt so, like, I don't know, 2000s. I had to get a webcam because I got a new computer, but the new computer doesn't come with a monitor, so I have a monitor. You know what I mean? And then it was time For a zoom call for, like, office things.

[Ryland Adams]

Why didn't you get your twitch? I felt like a threat.

[Lizzie Gordon]

I mean, we have. You have a webcam. That's pretty nice.

[Shane Dawson]

What are you guys doing? A live stream.

[Ryland Adams]

I have. I screenshotted. Oh, somebody's calling me right now.

[Shane Dawson]

Where's the sip live stream?

[Ryland Adams]

Well, now that I know, you can just do. See, in my head, I built it up. Like, we watch.

[Lizzie Gordon]

All he does is with everything. It's impossible. We simply cannot do it.

[Shane Dawson]

That was funny.

[Ryland Adams]

Listen, it was funny. We watch all these.

[Shane Dawson]

Nobody laughed, okay?

[Ryland Adams]

We watch all these theme parks.

[Shane Dawson]

It was too fun in the headphones.

[F]

There were too many people talking.

[Ryland Adams]

Okay, I'm gonna try for the fourth time. We watch all these theme park video, these theme park YouTubers that have these elaborate setups for their live streams where they use their podcast mics and it looks beautiful and whatever. And then when I saw Shane just, like, went live from his phone, I was like, oh, we just go live from our phone.

[Shane Dawson]

By the way, in the comments, I know you guys have my back, and that was funny. So thank you for.

[Ryland Adams]

I didn't hear you. Because he laughed.

[Shane Dawson]

Jane says, I'm so funny. Thank you.

[Ryland Adams]

They're all laughing.

[Lizzie Gordon]

He said everything's. Because you were like, everything's so hard. And he goes, except for bottomy.

[Shane Dawson]

No, no.

[Ryland Adams]

That's what he said.

[Shane Dawson]

You said. You said, I build everything up so much, and I don't know what to do, and then I don't do it. And I forgot what said I'm so bad. And I said, not with bottoming, period. Jimmy, it's a callback.

[Ryland Adams]

Yeah, I wasn't calling her fat. It was a callback. Get into it. See? All right, Shane and Spencer, thank you so much for gracing our podcast. We appreciate it so much. The Patreon is live right now, I think. Yesterday a vlog went up up on the Patreon of the day. We were filming the office party podcast. The office party podcast goes up on Sunday. Get into it.

[Shane Dawson]

Yes.

[Ryland Adams]

And it's up. It's live. Go join.

[Shane Dawson]

We have an actual office because we're still in limbo. Once we have an actual office, you guys have to come and be on the office party podcast.

[F]

I'm so excited to see it because.

[Shane Dawson]

Right now, the office is currently my bed.

[Lizzie Gordon]

How long are you in limbo? Limbo.

[Shane Dawson]

Episode four.

[Lizzie Gordon]

In real time. Are you in limbo is what I'm asking. Well, I guess. Don't tell me. Don't tell me. So I want to be part of the journey and obviously the docu series. I'm there.

[Ryland Adams]

This set will still be here for the sip. I'm not changing it because I also just really like this.

[Lizzie Gordon]

But we won't be here.

[Shane Dawson]

I thought you were gonna be in the office.

[Ryland Adams]

No, we are, but I'm just saying this set will still be standing, so, like, on week, no one will be on it. We want to change it up, but we are gonna get a new space for this podcast as well, which is exciting. So I think we'll go different vibe than this. Although I love this vibe so much. We're gonna explore some new energy. So everyone go follow Spencer, follow Shane, follow Chris.

[Shane Dawson]

But also the chuggers. So if you have a SIP Patron account, you can use a code that you can find it on the SIP Patreon account, you can use a code, and that code will get you Our Patreon for 4.99amonth for the first year. Oh, because it's usually 7.99, so. But for the chugger specifically, because I don't want you guys paying for multiple things. 4.99 discount.

[Ryland Adams]

Yep. Beautiful. So if you're already a chugger, then you get Shane's for. I was gonna try to do gold like similar noise.

[Shane Dawson]

Huh? A couple more periods.

[Ryland Adams]

All right, well, it is live right now. Make sure you go check out Shane's Patreon. Thank you guys for hanging out with us. We're gonna be eating crumble cookies on the after sip, and we love you so much. We'll see you next week.

[Chris]

Goodbye.

[Ryland Adams]

And that's the sip.

[Shane Dawson]

Bye, guys.

[Ryland Adams]

Toodaloo.