Our Heated Rivalry with Shane and Spencer!

Summary

The Sip with Ryland Adams and Lizze Gordon

Episode: "Our Heated Rivalry with Shane and Spencer!"

Date: January 21, 2026
Participants: Ryland Adams (A), Shane Dawson (B), Spencer (C)
Note: Lizze Gordon was absent due to illness.

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into relationship dynamics, reality TV obsessions, their ongoing friendly rivalries, and the nitty-gritty of working and living together (with a heavy dose of humor and oversharing). The absence of co-host Lizze (out sick) brings Shane and Spencer to join Ryland in a classic, slightly chaotic, and wildly candid discussion. Expect topics ranging from reality TV and social media habits to personal hygiene confessions and, of course, a taste-test adventure at Little Caesars.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Vibes, Apologies, and the Year of the Horse

• Karma and Energy: Ryland and Shane acknowledge “vibrating too low” last episode and joke about the impact of “bad vibes” (00:00–01:48).
• Reflecting on Growth: They celebrate embracing differences in 2026, contrasting last year’s “snake” energy with the new “year of the horse” (“Horses are strong, brave, beautiful.” – Ryland, 00:56).

2. Censorship, Honesty, and Podcasting Style

• Editing Anxiety: Shane admits to being cautious about what goes out (02:13), rooted in previous internet “trauma.”
• Unfiltered Podcasting: Ryland believes their willingness to leave messy moments in is what makes The Sip unique (01:58–02:13).
• Lizze’s Role: Some of Lizze’s “rants” and theories don’t make the final cut on Shane’s podcast, but thrive on The Sip and Patreon (02:48–03:16).

  “I’m too scared to leave things like that in, Lizzie. And you, for some reason, you guys aren’t, and I love that.” – Shane, 01:58

3. Reality TV Obsessions

• Big Brother & Traitors Backstory: They reflect nostalgically on their old podcast, revealing how commentary on Big Brother led to houseguests reaching out to them after leaving the show (04:44–05:32).
• Casting Stories: Ryland describes his attempt to get on “The Traitors” and being offered a much less glamorous alternative (07:17).

  “A group of unnamed people, not famous people, move into a house. And I was like, ouch.” – Shane, 07:39

• Rejection and Self-Reflection: They joke about God’s “protection” via rejection and discuss the weirdness of being cast for “House of Villains” or a hypothetical “House of Canceled People” (08:44–10:51).

4. Podcast Rivalry & Relationship Dynamics

• Rivalry with Shane & Spencer: Friendly jabs about who works hardest, who thrives on compliments, and whose football team is better (20:05–20:23).
• Public Apology: Ryland issues an on-air apology to Spencer after feeling he brought “attitude” and “ruined” a segment on Shane’s podcast (16:29–16:52).

5. Health, Hygiene & Product Obsessions

• Dentist Revelations: Shane’s dentist claims their toothpaste is “toxic,” leading Ryland to scan all their bathroom products and spiral over hidden chemicals (14:10–16:29, 34:01–36:27).

  “He showed me this chart where it was like, safe to not safe… and the one I’m using is number 199.” – Shane, 34:43

• Deodorant Drama: Ryland exposes Shane’s deodorant scoring 8/100 on the clean products app (“high risk for a lot of things”), prompting more hygiene talk (35:50–36:12).
• Signature Scents: An amusing discussion on personal scents, Tom Ford perfume, and eager avoidance of “bad deodorant-clashing” (15:10–15:29).

6. Pop Culture & Social Media

• Drag Race & Representation: Discuss current “Drag Race” season and the generation gap (“baby queens” vs. “grandmothers”) in queer spaces (23:01–23:35, 67:21–67:51).
• Eating Ass & Sex Scenes in Acting: A frank (and hilarious) tangent on faking sex acts for television and their own anxieties around on-screen intimacy (22:06–24:41).
• Toupees, Hairpieces & Aging Online: The rise of hairpieces, transparency about aging, and when to reveal you’re wearing one on a date (30:32–31:42).

  “But if you let it go too long, it becomes like, whoa, you’re lying to me kind of a thing.” – Spencer, 30:53

7. Relationship Games & Honest Reflections

• “Red or Green Flag” Game: The trio debates relationship boundaries, from reading each other’s texts to posting unflattering partner photos, sleeping angry, venting about your partner, and social media “thirst trap” likes (54:21–58:33).

  “I don’t know Shane’s phone password.” – Ryland, 54:39
  “Liking thirst traps? Biggest red flag, that is so weird.” – Ryland, 57:27

• Compliments & Affirmation: Ongoing (and comical) debate over which partner gives more compliments, who “thrives on affirmation,” and emotional labor in relationships (41:12–44:06).

  “This is crazy—to be in a relationship with somebody who gives me… no… what’s it called when you’re nice to someone?... Affirmations!” – Shane, 41:32

8. Reflections on 10 Years Together

• Ryland & Shane’s 10th Anniversary: Reflect on milestones, changes from 23/26 to now, and ponder how to celebrate (“Maybe you plan it, I’ve planned all of them…” – Shane, 51:39).
• Long-term Compatibility: Sharing communication strategies and the importance of learning how each other processes conflict (63:03–63:24).

  “I would say the biggest thing is… we tried to learn how each other communicates early on.” – Ryland, 63:19

9. Food Adventure: Little Caesars Taste Test

• Mythbusting Hot-n-Ready: Debate if the classic pizza is “actually good” if eaten right away; proceed to a live taste test with pizza, crazy bread, and wings (72:00–79:50).

  “For six bucks? Are you kidding me? I’m into it.” – Ryland, 79:01

• Verdicts:
  • Pizza: “Not gourmet, but not bad for the price.”
  • Crazy Bread: Pass (“stale,” “feels like under a heat lamp for 400 years”)
  • Wings: “Sort of old wing… not dry, but in a puddle of”…something.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Editing Honesty:

  “I think that’s what makes that show so good… you and Lizzie, for some reason, aren’t [scared], and I love that.” – Shane, 01:58

• On Reality TV Auditions:

  “You know what? Traitors’ rejection is God’s protection.” – Shane, 08:44

• On Relationship Realness:

  “I think the biggest thing is… we tried to learn how each other communicates early on.” – Ryland, 63:19

• On Food and Hygiene:

  “I would rather you be bald than me. Well…that’s mean to the piece community—peace, love, and piece—spelt like hairpiece.” – Shane, 28:44

• Red Flag Game Highlight:

  “Liking thirst traps? Biggest red flag, that is so weird.” – Ryland, 57:27

• Pizza Taste Test:

  “It’s not bad. I mean, for the price, it’s great.” – Spencer, 74:45

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–01:48: Intro banter, “vibrating too low,” setting the episode’s tone
• 02:13–03:16: Editing anxiety and podcast transparency
• 04:44–06:28: Big Brother podcasting, houseguest backlash
• 07:17–08:44: Traitors rejection and reality TV casting drama
• 14:10–16:29; 34:01–36:27: Dentist visit, toxic toothpaste, and deodorant debates
• 20:05–20:23: Football rivalry in the office
• 41:12–44:06: Compliments and relationship affirmation battle
• 54:21–58:33: Red or Green Flag relationship game
• 67:21–67:51: Drag Race age tiers (“baby queens” to “grandmothers”)
• 72:00–79:50: Little Caesars hot-n-ready taste test
• 81:28–83:44: Podcast outros, Instagram posting pressures

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

Lively, self-deprecating, and unsparingly honest, this Sip episode provides an intimate window into Ryland, Shane, and Spencer’s day-to-day, relationships, and personal quirks. There are plenty of in-jokes, relatable messiness, and tender moments, wrapped in the trio’s trademark humor. For both longtime fans and new listeners, it showcases why The Sip continues to stand out as a truly “uncensored” and entertaining slice of podcasting life.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[A]

You were right. I was vibrating too low. And karma has come for me. Venting about your partner to friends.

[B]

That's. I don't like that.

[A]

I don't like it either, honestly.

[B]

Well, listen, we don't have, like, friends.

[C]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

I have to give Spencer a public apology.

[B]

For what?

[A]

After the way I behaved on Saturday? Okay, girls, welcome back to fights with Shane and Ryland.

[B]

Don't do that.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

Because I'm stockpiled. We don't want to do that.

[A]

Well, if you remember, years and years and years ago, before. Was this before you even had your. The Shane Dawson podcast?

[B]

I feel like you're scooting away from me.

[A]

Oh. Oh, sorry.

[B]

You're already preparing.

[A]

I'm the one that probably has the bad breath, and I'll be hearing about it.

[B]

2026. We're not doing that. 2026. We're embracing that our differences are what makes us strong.

[A]

I think that's true. 2025 was the year of the snake. We were shedding. We were. Yeah, we were shedding. And now it's the year of the horse. Horses are strong, brave, beautiful.

[B]

Bucking. We're bucking the year of bucking. What do horses. Okay, horses. They turn into glue, unfortunately.

[A]

What?

[B]

I hate that. Don't they use horse hooves for glue? I'm not for that.

[A]

Oh, I don't. I don't know.

[B]

Wait a minute. Does that mean that drag is like anti horse? Because they use a lot of glue on those brows.

[A]

I think you've lost.

[B]

Wake it up.

[A]

I think you've lost me.

[B]

They get it. You guys are here.

[A]

No, Lizzie, last week was vibrating too low. You saw. You saw what I was. Yeah, I was saying she was. She was projecting hexes upon people. She was. I mean, she was vibrating low, and she's a new mom, so.

[B]

You know, I did listen to that episode, and there was a few things that I was like, wow, let's not talk about it.

[A]

I mean. Okay, we don't have to talk about it. Shane talked to me later the night after. He listened, and he goes, I can't believe you left some of that in.

[B]

Every once in a while, when I'm listening to the sip, I'll literally be like, did he forget to cut that? But I think that's what makes that show so good. Like, I'm too scared to leave things like that in Lizzie. And you, for some reason, you guys aren't, and I love that.

[A]

Well, no, I. I think you have some previous trauma, so you're. You're extra cautious about what goes out onto the Internet and. Yeah, well, I mean, yes, yes and no.

[B]

I'm trying to be a little less this year. Like, I wanna. I don't know, I feel like I still wanna be cautious, but I don't wanna, like, completely censor myself fully. Because then you start to get into a weird territory where you're not being yourself. You're being, like, a fake version of yourself. And I don't wanna get there. So I don't know.

[A]

And I don't think you have. You just wouldn't. I mean, and understandably so you wouldn't air some of the things that Lizzie rants about. And that's why she goes. Sometimes I'm not sure if I should be on Shane's podcast because I just cut out of it.

[B]

Right? Yes, we have cut out a few of her theories, but that's only because YouTube would literally force me to cut those out. We should talk about them on Patreon. Not to make this a Patreon thing, but you know what I mean, Maybe we're just on the sip, but.

[A]

So Lizzie's whole family is down and out, and she texts me. And, I mean, she has no voice. Like, normally we try to make it work when she's sick. We either sit far apart from each other or we'll, like. We make it work. She can't. She has no voice. It would appear as though I vibrated too low. And going forward, I swear to keep nothing but good vibrations. Sweet sensations, you know?

[B]

That is so sad.

[A]

And it's her whole family.

[B]

Like Nini Coco on Drag Race. I hope that tomorrow she wakes up able to perform. You don't remember that episode? We literally just watched it. Oh, he lost his voice.

[A]

That was two episodes ago. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We're keeping up with Drag Race. I love it, but the problem is it airs too late at night for me.

[B]

It literally starts at 8.

[A]

I know. It's too late for me to.

[B]

It starts at 8 and it ends at night. That's so annoying. I told you I didn't want to fight. And he gets mad at me because we don't watch shows together. And I'm like. Cause you don't stay awake. I don't know when you're watching shows. Like, when the fuck are you binging a whole show? I don't know when you're doing it. When?

[A]

Well, ever since.

[B]

We're not fighting.

[A]

Ever since. No, no, no, no, no. This isn't a fight, okay?

[B]

It's just two horrible things hanging Out.

[A]

The only reason I said fights with Shane and Ryland is because that's what it was when it was just the two of us. Years and years and years ago, the podcast got canceled.

[B]

It did.

[A]

I don't know. We stopped doing it. It was an audio only podcast.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

You don't remember?

[B]

That was during Big Brother season. And then. Okay, so here's a problem, right, about censoring myself. So we did this podcast that was audio only. It wasn't a Patreon thing. It was literally on Apple. And we would talk about Big Brother, and that's, you know, all I care about during those months of the year. And we were being very honest about our thoughts on the house guests. But then the house guests started coming out of the house and then listening to the podc and then DMing me about and like, not in a mean way, but just in like, oh, I heard you talked about. And then I'd get panicky because I'm just like, oh, my God, did I say anything bad? What did I say? Because the thing is, when you're watching a TV show, reality show, they're characters, right? So, like, you start to hate them or love them or feel bad for them or whatever, but then that's not.

[A]

Really who they are and it's not actually real. Like, we can separate who they are as people from what they're doing on a reality show. Which the whole point of a reality show is for entertainment. It's to be. I mean, they have a storyline. And if you don't gel with the storyline, it doesn't mean you don't necessarily like the person.

[B]

Right. Can we also talk about the fact that you try to get on Traitors and they said, no, that's a title. Oh, my God. Wait, that is a title.

[A]

So we watched after the first season came out. We didn't watch that season as it was airing, but we binged it afterwards.

[B]

No, we haven't seen the first season.

[A]

Wait, you never watched the first season?

[B]

No, because we know.

[A]

We know, but we should go back.

[B]

Because I didn't understand the show. I was like, well, I already know who the traitors are, so it's spoiled. But then now that I'm watching the show, that is the show, you. It doesn't matter if you know who the traitors are, right? Yeah, I still do know who won, so maybe that would ruin it.

[A]

I think the drama element is still. Rachel Riley's on it on the first season. Oh, we've got to go back.

[B]

Okay, but when are we Going to watch it 6am okay.

[A]

And ever since his pilot, I've still continued to wake up between like, 6:20 and 6:30. So then I just jump into the day, and by the time we put the boys down and eat dinner, 8:30 rolls around, and I am, like, prying my eyes open, I'm ready to go to sleep. Then I'll fall asleep during whatever we're watching. And then I wake up, and by the time I get like, clean up the kitchen, get ready for bed, I have another 25 minutes in me to watch TV before I go to bed. But that's after I've already left you, right?

[B]

Are we talking the Traitor? Okay, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That's pivoted.

[A]

That's dark, huh? This is the second season. It was popular, but it wasn't.

[B]

It was still. So it was like the first two episodes of the second season, so, like, not that many people were talking about it was like, starting to become a thing kind of. And then Rylan was like, I want to go on it. And then I was like, just look up who cast it. So he looked up the casting director, and then he DMed her, and then she was just like, hey, what about this other show? And the synopsis was like, a group of unnamed people, not famous people, move into a house. And I was like, ouch.

[A]

You know, it's different world. It, like, they don't really. It's. It's a different world. You know, I've got to catapult myself to a different level of success to get on Dancing with the Stars and the Traitors. And we're not there yet.

[B]

Yeah, no, we're not doing. We're not. We're not at dancing level yet.

[A]

I mean, not even close. I also don't think I would survive on Dancing with the Stars. I think I would do well at Traitors, which is why I really went out of my way and pitched myself for the show, because I am crazy and aggressive in a way that I think would be entertaining and maybe get me in trouble on the Internet.

[B]

It would be horrible. I can't do that. We already have me. I don't need the Internet hating you. And now we have two people that now we're House of Villains.

[A]

I mean, you. You know.

[B]

I do love that show.

[A]

You know how I am just on in regular life playing games with people. So, yeah, I don't know that the. The world needs to see me acting like that. And so maybe it was God's protection. He was like, you know what? You're just not famous enough. But it's your. It's to protect you.

[C]

Really?

[B]

Traitor's rejection is God's protection. I am just thinking about how dark that would be to get that email from House of Villains. How does that feel like when you get that email from House of Villains? Like, hey, want to be on the show? Like, that's a. That's a therapy session. That's me going to my therapist and going, am I a villain? Am I the problem? That's a lot. I really hope I don't get that email. Although I did see there's a new show that they're casting right now where it's a house of canceled people. And I was like, I am dreading that email. I have that muted. We're not doing that.

[A]

Wow. And if they don't hit you up, it's almost insulting. Both things are insulting. It's like, if they pass on you, it also is a little bit.

[B]

But who are they gonna. Because when I saw the. When I saw the. Somebody sent me the article, they were like, hey, what's this?

[A]

What is that with people in your life sending you things they shouldn't be sent? That's a little.

[B]

No, he actually sent it to me because it's my friend. He. He sent it to me because he thought they stole my idea. He's like, I think they stole your idea. And then I was like, no, I don't think. Because I never told my idea to anybody, really. I had multiple ideas involving cancel people. This was years ago, but I had. Honestly, one of them was before I even got canceled. Well, one of my many cancellations, but I wanted to do Canceled island, which was gonna be, you know, a dating show. Well, maybe I shouldn't give it away. Well, it's never gonna happen.

[A]

I mean, I don't think you're. You'd be passionate enough to see that through no matter what.

[B]

But, yeah, it was basically a dating show about a bunch of. Every contestant is canceled. They just don't know it. Well, they know it, but, like, what for? Yeah. And then they're on this island, and then the Bachelor or, you know, whatever, has all these people. But then he starts finding out all the things they've done in their past that are cancelable. And then it's almost like, can you see past the cancellation to fall in love with the person? So I had this whole idea, and I wanted to host it. Thought that'd be fun. But, yeah, that was in my dark era, where I was like, you know, well, I guess I'll never Make movies or anything else. I guess I'll do a dating show. I never even. Yeah, me and Spencer. It was when Spencer started working with me and we were thinking of fun ideas, but anyways, canceled.

[A]

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[B]

Dentist, put that in the teaser. I can't look at him.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

It's just weird. I don't like sitting. I. First of all, I don't like being on this side. There's something I feel off. You know when you walk into a space and you're like, there's something off in this space? That's how I feel right now. Looking at you this way, I feel. I hate it. So I'm not looking at him, but it's not because I don't love him. It's because I just don't enjoy this process.

[A]

It's too tedious for you.

[B]

Well, you can know this like on. On our podcast. Why don't you just move your cheeksing each other? Because then, oh, then we're getting profile, and we're not doing that in 2026. No, 2026. Fixed forward. Very RuPaul. You never see her from the side, not after 1997. So we're. We're going on that.

[A]

You kind of are RuPaul in that, huh?

[B]

I really am RuPaul. Like, I, I, I. When I write down a list of all of RuPaul's attributes and I write down a list of all my attributes, they do line up. They are very similar.

[A]

Okay, so Shane went to the dentist the other day, and he got back and he told us that our toothpaste is toxic.

[B]

And it's like, okay, we're not doing that. 2026. What if they want to sponsor the Zip?

[A]

I don't think they do.

[B]

Well, let's not.

[A]

And if they do, I don't know that I feel ethical promoting it at this point in time. And that's what I started thinking. All of these big companies that are selling toxins in their products, when they're the leader of that arena, it's really a problem.

[B]

I'm not a toothpaste scientist or a dentist, but.

[A]

Well, you really freaked me out.

[B]

Okay. So my dentist was like, oh, your teeth look great. Which is such a flex, because I really don't take care of them. No, I brush my teeth.

[A]

Not at all. That's my other thing. But, like, every time when we go to bed every night, okay, I need.

[B]

To get this out, because people are going to clip that and be like, see Shane Is dirty one of my many things?

[A]

I think you need to get over that one too.

[B]

Even if people are dirty.

[A]

I know, but me and Emma cares, okay? Like, that's. If that's what somebody's doing.

[B]

Really not dirty. And I smell good. I'm all about my scents. I know that's a weird thing to be all about when you're a 38, 37 year old man teetering on 38, but I really am all about my scents. I have my signature scent.

[A]

I'm like, what is it? Oh, Tom Ford, Vanilla Sex.

[B]

I have a signature scent.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I'm really. I don't want my deodorant to clash with my scent.

[A]

I'm wrapping back around to your deodorant. Don't worry about it.

[B]

Okay, well, let me wrap back up to my teeth. So I have wires behind my teeth. They're permanent. I got them when I was like 13, 13, 14, after I had braces. So it's really fucking hard to like floss. So I have a water flosser or whatever, and that's how I do it. And sometimes I'll get in there with like the end of like a toothpick. Like the little flosser thingy. Like, my teeth are not dirty, but, you know, like, I'm not someone who's in there flossing for an hour. Like, that's just never gonna be me. Can't be me. But I'm very grateful that God has gifted me with good tooth genetics. Not really good. Anything else genetics, but good tooth genetics. And after all that Suzy cake. No cavity.

[A]

And he doesn't have a nighttime routine you don't like every night. I'm like, ugh, I wish. That is one thing. If there's ever a robot, I'm gonna buy it. If it's service is my nighttime routine. There's nothing I hate more than at the end of an exhausting day, having to then go figure out. I bet it's Spencer. Or did you order a Diet Coke? Oh, Spencer. I have to give Spencer a public apology.

[B]

For what?

[A]

After the way I behaved on Saturday.

[B]

What do you mean, what?

[A]

Well, Spencer did. He worked so hard. He produced the Shane Dawson podcast so well. And then I just came in with such a fucking attitude and I just like, ruined his segment.

[B]

Have him sit in and.

[A]

It was a good segment, by the way. I was.

[C]

You didn't ruin the segment.

[B]

It was saved.

[C]

You saved it.

[A]

I was so, yeah.

[C]

Shane said.

[A]

Shane's like, thank God somebody else is here. See you later. I was like, you know what? Spencer does so much for me. He really is always dipping and doing it for the sip or my vlogs. And here I am.

[C]

What is this, by the way?

[A]

Oh, it's the sip. Lizzie's.

[C]

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

[A]

She doesn't have a voice. Her fit. She was vibrating so low last week. Do you remember? I do remember that her family came down with the plague and so she has no voice.

[C]

Well, I saw them. I saw the family out in the wild.

[A]

And that is another. So she. The way she broke the news to me that she is sick. She said, you were right, I was vibrating too low and karma has come for me. And then I said, she said, so I'm vibrating higher. I don't wish hexes upon my enemies. And I said, temporary.

[C]

That's not gonna last.

[A]

Well, that's interesting because Spencer saw you and your entire family out in public when you're dying with a disease.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So you're just super spreading a disease. And she goes, hugo's is my nanny. Okay, I. I'm dying and I need to eat. I brought sanitizing wipes and I'm disinfecting the entire space when we leave.

[C]

And I was like, still, it's like, I know. Yeah, yeah, you gotta.

[A]

She. There's a type of person that goes out in the world when they're deathly sick. And it's Lizzie and it's the co.

[C]

Host that should be right here.

[A]

And she said, let me come. And I said, no, stay the fuck away from us. Yeah, I want nothing to do with you. So Spencer, he produced this really fun game for the Shane Dawson podcast. And the only request was that I think of a funny story from my life. And I. It was like six days into a work week because we filmed on a Saturday.

[C]

Yeah, it was.

[A]

And every day was stacked. And I was like, I'm gonna myself if I have to think of one more story, One more story to tell the world.

[C]

I don't think you need to. The only time I got genuinely mad, I think you could probably tell, is when I was like, you didn't. It wasn't your fault even, because you didn't understand the concept of the game. But the point of the game is that everyone had to guess whether or not the thing someone read was true. And in front of everyone, you're like, I'll just make two up. And I was like, that ruins the whole game. Like, that's fine if you do that. And like, I just don't say it.

[A]

In front of Everybody know the premise?

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Because I was telling Shane on the way over, I said, I just really don't have something. And he goes, just tell Spencer to make up two.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

But I didn't know that was the point of the game, so I said it in front of everyone, and Spencer's like, I made this game. I produced this game. You're just ruining this game.

[C]

I was also, like, running. Like, today I was running late. I've been running.

[A]

What are you running late for?

[C]

What do you have to do today? Yeah, I just, like, slept through. And like, when. You know, when you sleep through your alarm and you're just like. Like, you know, the whole morning feels crazy. But that day, I was, like, running around trying to do it, and then I was like, okay, the game's gonna work. And then Ryan's like, just, like in front of it, I just make up. And I was like, don't say that. And then I was texting Ryan, like, pretend you thought of one.

[A]

And then Shane came up with one. And it was an actual good story, so everything worked out. But, you know.

[C]

Yeah, it is a problem where you. Every single story in your life has been told somewhere. So having a game where it's like.

[A]

It's just like, we have so many platforms that it's. It's hard to come up with a new story.

[C]

New Mike enters the chat.

[A]

New Mike enters the villa. A new bombshell. Did anything fun happen to you this weekend?

[C]

You mean yesterday?

[A]

Oh, yeah. I guess we only didn't see you yesterday.

[C]

No, no, nothing happened. Oh, you know, our two. You don't care, but our two football teams are gonna. No one. No one plays.

[A]

Did the Broncos do well?

[C]

They won. And now they're playing my team, the Patriots.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[C]

Yeah. So we have an office rivalry. Yeah. Face off. Yeah.

[A]

Sounds a little.

[C]

Any rivalry now.

[A]

It's.

[C]

Okay. That word is, like, over.

[B]

Gay people really ruin my word. Are those guys gay? I haven't seen the show.

[A]

They're like, not. They're like not. It's. That's the most annoying thing about them is they're not saying. Even though I think they. I mean, one saying one of them definitely is, and then two, I guess the other one has talked about how he's bi now, but then the other lead was like.

[B]

He's like, I ate that ass.

[A]

He's like, I don't really want to say.

[B]

I don't really, really ass eating in this show.

[A]

I mean, there's. It's. It's.

[B]

You're, like, rolling.

[A]

Should we Switch mics because this cord's longer.

[C]

I was literally coming to the office today. Sorry. We'll get back to Heat of rivalry. Thinking like, ugh, I look terrible.

[A]

Me too.

[C]

And then you walk in, and then it's like, come on camera. Come on camera.

[B]

I called him because he was like, can you please come on the sip? Lizzie sick. I said, okay. And then I was like, hey, can we do it like, on a vlog camera? Really high angle, Just like on the table. Because I've never felt fatter and uglier my whole fucking life.

[C]

And he was feeling.

[B]

He goes. He goes, yeah, sure. I come in, and it's the microphones, it's the nice camera, it's the light. And I'm just like, oh, so we're doing this well.

[A]

We're doing this well.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was gonna force us on the office party podcast set, but then it wasn't sexy.

[B]

That's too wide angle for me. I need a few more steps before we get there. Listen, I'm on a journey. I love my body, and I'm doing all that.

[A]

I.

[B]

But like, the holidays, the pilot, the.

[C]

Editing, like, sometimes, you know, you have a flight delay on a journey or something like that.

[B]

Sometimes you have a little pit stop. Sometimes. Yeah, there's a delay. Fell asleep in the airport.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Miss something, missed a few hundred thousand steps, and we're, you know. But we're getting back.

[C]

Yeah, I agree. I feel the same way.

[B]

So would you ever act in a gay show where you had to eat.

[A]

A butt and you think what Lizzie said's problematic?

[B]

Well, I'm just saying, like, Mike. Okay. I'm curious about, like, how do they do that?

[C]

How do they, like, fake eating a butt?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

And this is do that. In Wolf of Wall street, how did he fake snorting coke out of her butt? Do you remember that scene?

[A]

I mean, they probably put something. Probably safe to snort.

[C]

Yeah. And then found a woman who was down to town.

[A]

I'm sure Mario Robbie was down.

[B]

It wasn't.

[A]

It wasn't her.

[C]

It was like a. It was like a prostitute.

[A]

Well, that is my biggest. That is my biggest thing.

[B]

Yeah, mate.

[A]

For slut. For any sex scene, there's no way guys aren't getting hard. Right. So how is that a lot to say?

[C]

No, no, I heard.

[A]

I started thinking about this because, you know, traveling into.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, even if I had a sex scene with a girl, I'd probably end up getting hard.

[B]

You're not going to do that. I don't I'm afraid.

[C]

I'm afraid to take a few years.

[A]

I'm just saying, like, that's even going to the doctor. I'm afraid I'm going to get hard. It's one of my biggest fears I have. Like, I stay up at night. I'm so. I know Sip knows this, you guys, whatever. I don't know, but it's like, there's no way that you're telling me that guys in sex scenes aren't popping boners. And how do they not want to die?

[C]

Well, I heard some famous actor. Forget who it was, but he said, like, what I say to women during sex scenes, like, sorry if I get hard. Sorry if I don't. And it's like, you know what I mean? It's like, embarrassing. It's like, yeah, exactly. It's like both are, like, weird. I don't remember.

[B]

It was like, crazy.

[C]

Yeah. Or maybe it was a woman talking about what the guy said.

[B]

She said, sorry if I don't get hard. Sorry if I don't get.

[A]

But then it's so awkward. And then where you put it, because a lot of times you're just wearing, like, the sock. So then it's like the socks just up.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, I. Yeah. That's unbelievable.

[A]

My nightmare. It's my nightmare.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, I mean, I think this is a lot.

[C]

It's hilarious to worry.

[A]

Good morning. I mean, acting career. Yeah, I worry about it at a dermatologist appointment. Are you kidding me?

[B]

And then you get one audition for General Hospital and you're like, what if I get hard? What if I get hard?

[C]

Hey, can my character be hard?

[B]

Huh? How did we get there?

[A]

Oh, asking Spencer if he would take a gay role.

[B]

Right. Okay, so I thought that wasn't allowed anymore. Not that I literally care at all, but, like, isn't it now, like, you have to be gay to play gay?

[A]

That's probably why the straight. Well, the one we don't know about.

[C]

Their sexuality, he's not saying he's for sure straight.

[B]

I think as somebody who's teetering in the middle, I don't care.

[A]

Well, he du Moy Dumois came out and said, like, oh, he has. We found his girlfriend. And then he got really mad at Du Moi for saying that he's a good actor.

[B]

Here's the thing. I get it. That more gay people need to get roles. Like, I actually do get that. And now that we've been working with casting and stuff, like, I've seen that firsthand. Had to cast a gay person for that role, but only reason I got the job. If he's a good actor and if he's so good that he's pulling off gay, he's an even better actor.

[A]

Exactly. No, I think he's probably bi. I mean, not to. Not to assume someone's sexuality, but he's portraying it very well, that he's enjoying it.

[C]

And also, this wasn't like a huge show when they were casting it. It was like a little like, Canadian whatever show. So, like, I don't think they were worried, like, oh, what if, you know, like, probably. He probably was like, I'll take any role I can get.

[B]

Which, by the way, everybody's like, oh, my God, I can't believe this show came out of Canada. It's like, Canada is where all the people are so sweet. And I'm like, have you guys not heard of Degrassi? They were eating butts in, like, they.

[A]

Were pioneering the butt eating on television.

[B]

My favorite episode of Degrassi is when Emma gets throat gonorrhea, which I didn't know was possible. And she gets. I think she got it from a hand job.

[A]

We learned Spencer cannot kick on her or what. Can you not.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, gonorrhea will kill me or something.

[A]

His heart doctor told him, like, specifically, you are not allowed to get gonorrhea.

[C]

He said, if you get gonorrhea, call me. I was like, what? What does that even mean?

[B]

If you were gay, that would be a problem. Because I don't. Because that's not my life. That's not my journey. But every gay person I know has definitely had that. Multiple thoughts.

[A]

I haven't.

[B]

Good for you. You're very knock on that.

[A]

Well, no, I told Spencer. He told me that I was like, thank God I'm no longer in like a phase where you're dating in la, because you just don't. It's scary to just be sleeping with people.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, really scary is. But gonorrhea is still a straight thing, right?

[C]

Yeah, it's just. I think it's the guy, he said, like men, it's like 70% of the time you don't have any symptoms, which is why it's super easy to, like, transfer it. And so, like. Like, women would and. But so, like, I think in the gay community, it's like, if everyone, you know, it's fucking each other and doesn't have any symptoms, then yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So is that something you have to tell a partner? Like, hey, just so you know, like, you don't have gonorrhea? Right.

[C]

I think it's more like, have you been tested? Not, do you have gonorrhea? I mean, but I'm fine with the other ones. But have you been to that cute.

[B]

Little first date story? You're like, funny story. If I get gonorrhea, it'll kill me.

[C]

Because then she's like, do you think I have gonorrhea? And she's like, I think he thinks I have gonorrhea.

[B]

I did watch a reel where it was like, this gay guy and he was just like, yeah, I think he was British. Hello. He's like, so I've been wearing my toupee for eight months, and, like, I love my toupee. Like, you know, hairpiece, which are, like, very big right now. Everybody's piecing it out. Yeah.

[A]

Or maybe your Instagram's targeting you.

[B]

Oh. Because here, Jenny Craig and hair pieces is all my ads right now.

[A]

Is Jenny Craig stick seriously still around?

[B]

Yeah. Oh, wow. Dragger.

[A]

No, I just. I haven't seen a brick and mortar.

[B]

Yes, they. I guess they're still around. I think they're only online, but they're really hitting me up, and I think they're focusing it. My face ID has noticed my increasing of my. And I'm just like, wow. Anyways, so don't.

[A]

No, you're just really just a funny.

[C]

Idea of, like, someone like a nerd. Like, uh, oh, getting bigger. Like, send in some ads. Not that that's happening.

[B]

Okay, so two pace. So, yeah, I think it's like, now that the Internet is such a thing.

[A]

My neck starting to hurt from cranking so far back.

[B]

Look at me. I think because now the Internet, everybody's on it. Like when we were younger and, like, the guys in their 30s were getting toupees, nobody talked about it, and it was embarrassing. They also look like party city waves.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But now once, like, now. Now everybody's online and they're all getting to pays. They have to, like, talk about it. Mm. And now it's now. But now it's a trend. And now it has to be cool. And now there's two pay stylists who are just like. They were doing those hair transformation videos.

[C]

Where it's like, yes, I've seen those.

[B]

How do you want me? I don't know why everybody's British on my own page. How do you want me to do your hair? And it's. Oh, I want to do this. Okay. And then, you know, flash. And now they look sickening. And it's just.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Are you insinuating bald people don't.

[C]

No, they are.

[A]

They are.

[B]

What?

[A]

No, I'm just kidding.

[B]

No, I would rather you be bald than me. Well, actually, no, that's mean to the peace community. Because I don't want to. I don't want to be mean to that.

[C]

The peace community.

[B]

Well, about peace. Love and peace. Love and peace. But spelt like hairpiece.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's your new.

[C]

That's a pretty good.

[A]

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[B]

But we are watching. I was watching, we watching Instagram, and this guy was like, oh, got my hairpiece behind. I don't know what point on the date I. Or like, which date to say, like, I have a hairpiece. And I was like, oh, that's interesting.

[C]

That is interesting.

[B]

What do you do? I don't know. But if I'm on a date and somebody's like, I'm wearing a hairpiece. I don't think I'd care.

[C]

No, no. But if you let it go too long, it becomes like, whoa, you're lying to me kind of a thing.

[B]

Only traitors.

[C]

Yeah. Like it, like if. What if you're like, I get nervous and nervous and then you're like four or five dates in. It's like, by the way, I have a tube. And then you're like, Then you get nervous about it. Like that would be. That would stress me out.

[A]

Yeah. When do you convince me?

[B]

But the way these new tubes, the way these new tubes pieces work, they're. They're on there for 30 days for like a month.

[C]

What?

[A]

Yeah, you go and get it placed and then you can shower.

[C]

They like glue it in or something.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. They install it so it's not like an every night mannequin head situation.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But I would imagine close to like the 30 days if you're having sex and it's rough, like you could tear up a little bit.

[B]

Day 25 and on. No grab. Don't grab my hair.

[C]

I. I don't think I could do that. I think I would get too. It like itchy or like, you know what I mean? I think, I don't think I could handle that. Something glued to my head for 30.

[B]

So are we doing pieces turkey or bald?

[A]

What's turkey?

[C]

Turkey. That's why, that's why I'm surprised that hairpieces hair. The hairpieces are big because I feel like everyone's getting the hair surgery now.

[B]

I don't know. I watched a video and shout out to the hair surgery community in Turkey, but I watched a video about it and it was like my nightmare. It was so scary.

[C]

What? Like how they do it.

[B]

Well, well, from what I've seen, maybe they've changed it since, but they shoot you full of adrenaline because your heart has to be going a certain pace.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know that you're flowing. Don't scare him like that.

[A]

Well, no, I.

[B]

But also I know a good tube lady.

[C]

I might just go bald.

[A]

You follow the tube?

[B]

No, I should, though. That's my new favorite. Although my new new favorite was this reel I saw where it was like, okay, so there's this guy who does like hair makeovers. So he'll like, he'll be like, oh, what do you want? They're like, simo, a cookie. And he's like, okay, interesting. And then it like cuts and now her hair looks like a beautiful Samoa cookie. I can't explain it, but you guys get it? And then he's just, like, judging her hair. And he goes. He goes, yes, yes, yes. And then she's just like, yes, yes. And her. Her face is like, her reactions. Right. So I saw this one where this lady was like. She kind of. She has her own salon, you know, maybe. And she's, like, doing her sister's hair. And the caption was just like, when my sister doesn't know how to be an influencer. So, like, she, like, turns her sister around, and her sister, like, like, the reveal. Yeah, it's not going to be funny when I do it. So her sister turns and she's just like. She's like, wow. Oh.

[C]

It was really bad. It was really.

[B]

And then they just started laughing. It was funny. I'll find it.

[A]

I think Spencer walked in when you were talking about your dental situation.

[B]

Oh, yeah. So my teeth are fine. Which is crazy. Which is crazy. Oh.

[A]

And I was saying, yes, the way I will utilize an AI robot is if they'll do my nighttime routine.

[B]

Just literally, that is Casper. I don't know if you ever saw that movie. We definitely watched it. You probably.

[A]

And every night I'm like, don't you have to do it? And he goes, no. And he just doesn't do a nighttime routine.

[B]

I know. And it's. It's catching up.

[C]

What does that mean?

[A]

Wait, do you not, like, wash your dog?

[C]

But I'm saying, what does it mean that you don't do?

[A]

He just. Nothing. He just goes to bed. Like, he's living on the edge. Isn't that wild? Like, no brushing of the teeth, no washing of the face. He's just like, plops down.

[B]

I just don't wash my face. I mean, I do it sometimes. Depends if I was wearing makeup that day. But anyways, before you were shaming me. Yeah. So he was like, the only thing about your teeth is that your gums in the front, on the bottom teeth are starting to, like, wear down a little bit. But that's because of, you know, what toothpaste are you using? And I told him, and he was just like, ooh. And then he showed me this chart where it was like, safe to not safe. And it's like a list of 200 toothpastes. And the one I'm using is number 199.

[C]

Wait, what is the one you're using?

[B]

I don't want to say toothpaste. I don't want to.

[A]

He doesn't want to shame them for some reason.

[B]

But also, the people need to know, what if it's not real. It is list is a hoax.

[A]

Then like, Sandy came.

[B]

I'm not trying to cancel it.

[A]

Sandy came the other day and I was like, yeah, I didn't realize my toothpaste is like killing me from the inside. And Sandy goes, oh, no, I have a natural toothpaste. And so, so she showed me which one it is. And I download. I downloaded this app that you can scan all your products for your house and your body, and it gives them a rating like you're gonna turn into a crazy person. The toothpaste that we have is 39 out of 100 rated pour. And then get this, you want it.

[C]

To be higher if it, like higher.

[A]

The, the toothpaste Sandy recommended to me, which is desert essence whitening plus toothpaste. 100 out of 100, all green. No, nothing that can harm you inside of it. And then, so I'm scanning everything in.

[C]

Our bathroom because I'm like, maybe like a bad road.

[A]

Maybe I do need to be conscious about the things I'm putting on my body. Even the, even though the aluminum free deodorant I still smell when I use.

[C]

Yeah, no, it doesn't work.

[A]

So then I scan Shane's deodorant. 8 out of 100.

[B]

Ooh, I don't know. I still don't know what that means.

[C]

So that's like you need 100 out.

[A]

Of 100 for it to be all clean products. It has an 8 out of 100. And you're at high risk for a lot of things.

[B]

Every deodorant. I feel like that's why people use that.

[A]

Like, no, I, weird. I, I, I scanned my holistic natural deodorant and it's 90.

[C]

Does it work? Yeah, it doesn't work.

[A]

93 out of 100.

[C]

I can tell.

[B]

But at least you'll be around for a long time stinking up the place.

[C]

Those stinky bits will last a long time.

[B]

The deodorant.

[A]

I feel more safe using chemicals than what's going in my mouth.

[B]

My only concern is the whitening aspect because my teeth are prone to buttering.

[A]

And I, well, no, the baking soda. The baking soda will go white. A natural whitener.

[B]

My dentist was like, oh, just use baking soda and water. He's like, if you can get around the taste, which I have done that in the past. But the problem is I was like, but then are my teeth gonna get yellow? And he's like, yeah, but just come bleach them. I'm like, my teeth are too sensitive for that. I can't even do a pressed white strip.

[A]

I got a natural bleach. Oh, natural teeth. Whitener teeth. One of the hot girls on selling the LLC was like, this is what I use. And her teeth are so white. And so she influenced me to get it, and I used it once.

[B]

That was. I don't know what reaction I was supposed to do. I felt like the girl with her hair reveal. I was like, whoa.

[C]

Oh, w. So bright.

[B]

Oh, can we talk about the big conspiracy about your lips?

[A]

Oh, my gosh.

[C]

What the fuck was that?

[B]

So I went to my podcast comments, which I usually only do for the first hour because it's safe.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Then after that, I'm a little scared, but one of them was like, oh, my God, what happened to Spencer's lips? At a time code. And I went to the time code, and I was like, oh, the editor must have forgot to, like, take away an effect. An effect or something. So I was like. I was like, what is this? And then I look at it, and I'm just like, what? So then I text him, and he's just like, no, that's what Spencer was doing. I was like, what?

[C]

I wish I knew what.

[B]

I was actually.

[A]

Using a lip.

[B]

You were just sitting still, though. You were really.

[A]

Maybe you just have voluptuous lips. I've never noticed.

[B]

I had a maybe. Did you have your tongue in your. But people thought it was like an Easter egg or, like a conspiracy. What does this mean? And I was like, oh, we need to play into this next episode. We, like, put a big fake ear on someone.

[C]

Like a prosthetic nose that's just a little too.

[A]

Just. Yeah, like, real enough, but too, too big.

[C]

That is a good. That is very funny. It's a lot of work for zero payoff.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I used to have a friend's mom was obsessed with my lips. She was like, oh, he has such nice lips.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

That is a lot.

[C]

Yeah, it was weird, huh? And then, like, during COVID I was doing something on Zoom, and she. There's a video of her just, like, looking at the screen, like, what nice lips he has.

[B]

Why are we on Zoom with your friend's mom?

[C]

I was doing. Oh, this is embarrassing to say. I was doing improv on suit.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

As dark. I know. That's what I thought after I did it.

[B]

You thought Covid was dark?

[C]

We all did stuff we did we regret doing during COVID So improv.

[A]

So were people watching? Like, there was a. It's like, oh, my God, you cannot see Their reactions.

[C]

No, no, no. I only got the video, my friends, because she, they're filming like the. Her mom's like reaction. Like she was. It was on like the TV in their living room.

[A]

Are you with people in person doing improv and that's being filmed or it's like every person that's improving is on.

[C]

Sky in a fucking zoom.

[B]

I need to see that.

[C]

No, no, no. And just like you say something, there's a delay.

[B]

Do you hand raise emoji when you're ready to tell your joke?

[C]

It was so bad.

[B]

Or if something's really funny, do you send one of those like haha.

[C]

Yeah, that was people in the chat. Hahaha, very funny.

[B]

It's like, oh, that's dark when there's nothing.

[C]

Yeah. And then you. Because you don't hear anything. And I was in my mom's basement just doing it.

[B]

Well, but you were young, right? Yeah.

[C]

I mean, when was Covid. That was like five years ago.

[A]

20.

[B]

20 years ago? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, I was only what, 21, 22.

[A]

You've got to applaud taking a step in the right direction, you know?

[B]

Right. Well, good for you.

[C]

I don't think. I think that was the wrong direction because I've now quit. Quit that.

[B]

So did your improv group keep going without you?

[C]

No, we all quit. One guy's still doing it, but he's doing it like that's just professionally. Oh, doing jokes. I was doing improv. No, no, we solo.

[B]

Improv is crazy. I guess that's what a YouTuber is.

[C]

Yeah, that's literally what YouTube is like. You do 2012.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[C]

That was some real.

[B]

Do you ever go to the bathroom? Yeah. You jump to the other side of the screen?

[C]

Yeah, I do.

[A]

Okay, because it's our 10 year anniversary coming up. We missed our wedding anniversary.

[C]

Congratulations.

[A]

Thank you. Can you believe a hair reveal? What?

[C]

Well, it's not your opinion. Usually the one you celebrate is a wedding anniversary.

[A]

I know, but when do you. Yeah, when do you transfer over to that? Because that's not weird.

[B]

We've only been together for three years. Right. So then that sounds like nothing. Like it's a three year anniversary. Okay, call me in ten.

[C]

Yeah, that's. That's a good point.

[B]

Cares.

[A]

So I do think our 10 is the bigger one anyways. So what are we gonna do? And then it had me reminiscing on 10 years ago. And now I wanted to know what you like about me more than you did 10 years ago.

[B]

This is crazy because like, hey, what.

[C]

Do you like about me.

[B]

This is crazy. To be in a relationship with somebody who gives me. No. What's it called when you're nice to someone or, like, affirmations?

[A]

What? That's not true. I give you affirmations all the time. Literally. You just keep backing.

[B]

Literally.

[C]

When? What are you talking about?

[B]

When have you ever said something right?

[C]

That's like, I didn't want to say that.

[B]

No, you look great.

[C]

It's, like, humongous. Because you guys are also scooting back.

[A]

You look crazy, and I'm sick of going like this the whole podcast.

[B]

No, I'll come back to the shadows.

[A]

I often give information. I don't think that's true.

[B]

When. When have you ever looked at me.

[C]

And said something like, nice, happy 10 years, and that?

[B]

And that's just not you, I don't think. And you told me that very early on in the relationship. No, no, no, no, no. I don't give compliments, and I don't say anything unless it's like, I say.

[A]

I don't give compliments. I don't mean well. And then you know, when you're getting a compliment from me, it's real. Since it's like, wow, it's been like five years I've been around not one. No, I don't think that's true.

[C]

All right, moving on.

[A]

Okay, so he likes.

[B]

He loves compliments. He thrives on them.

[A]

What are your compliment? Me. When's the last time you caught literally ever? Like, I don't remember the last time you said, like, oh, you did really great at this.

[C]

Sounds like something you guys should work on together.

[A]

Your audition, I felt like you were. You had to say that you were obligated.

[B]

No, I would have told you that the first take was not good. That second, that was one of my favorites. I know that's scary. And I came into the room because he was like, go watch. You watch the both and tell me which one. And I watched the first one, and I was like, oh, God, oh, God, oh, God. And then I watched the second one, and I was like, oh, my God, this is good. The first one.

[A]

Burn it.

[B]

And then I walk into the room, and I was just like, I think the second one. And he was just like, I think the first one. And I was like, I think the second one. I don't.

[A]

You also have to remember, like, if you can be. If you can be decent in an audition, that's the worst it's gonna be. You know what I'm saying? Because that's. It's on you the whole time. There's no cutaways. There's no secondary angles. Yeah. No one's working with you. There's no lighting. There's no angles. So it's like, if you can be decent in an audition, I feel like you can be great in a scene.

[B]

But I did give you a compliment. I was like, oh, my God, that was so good. I'm so proud of you. It was so natural. Like, that was really good. I was not lying. I would have told you, like, because.

[A]

Specifically, I don't know if you're lying or not. You can never trust somebody when it comes to a performance.

[B]

If it wasn't never trust your.

[A]

Well, I'm just saying that's a fragile place to be. It's like, if he's like, I just don't think it's great, then it's like.

[B]

I would expect you, though, to do the same thing. Like, when it comes to things like that, where you're sending it to a stranger, and now, like, that you. You have to make sure it's good.

[A]

Well, the manager I sent it through still wants to rep me.

[B]

It's good. I told you it was good.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

And I think you guys are. Have a good balance with that. Sort of like, you guys both work, do entertainment stuff so much that I think, like, your push is over. The bullshit I think we can take. You don't want the fakeness.

[B]

No.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I think that would almost be more insulting if he was like, oh, no. Like, that would be, like. That would be a sign of, like, a bad relationship. I would say.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, there. There's a nice way to do it. Obviously, we're on a podcast, trying to be funny and stuff, so I'm gonna, like, ham it up. But in person, I just said, like, oh, I felt like the second one was better than the first one. It was more real.

[A]

Right.

[B]

On a podcast, I'm gonna be like, burn it, but also burn it.

[A]

I wonder when I can show that. I guess once the role's cast, I obviously didn't get it.

[B]

Well, I don't know if you're allowed to. It said confidential, and it had, like, a big water.

[A]

I know, but I think once something airs, it's like, how confidential could it be?

[B]

Oh, you could do one of those reels where it's, like, reacting to roles I didn't get. And then you show your audition, and then you show the guy who got it, and then it cuts back to you being like, well, that's the end of the next one.

[A]

Well, you know, I can sleep well at night knowing that the character was too old for me anyway.

[B]

I will say this, that character's totally not right for you. If they haven't cast it yet, he's the right choice.

[A]

No, but he's literally like a 40.

[B]

Year old rough cop who.

[A]

And you know who I think I could be his boyfriend. Like. Cause he's in the closet. So once he has his side lover on. Like he has his lover on the side that his cop force doesn't know about. Sign me up. I was saying a little bit younger.

[B]

You were good enough in the audition to where I think they. Well, he's not right for this. But. And I know people say that a lot, but I really do have a.

[A]

Joke in your script about her. I'm like, but I think they'll remember me for his boyfriend when they're trying to cast another gay guy for him to sleep with.

[B]

I do think that because, you know, you have followers and stuff, which is annoying. But like that is a thing now. So I feel like they'll be like, oh, he has followers, but he's not right for this. But like maybe throw him a gay assistant role, period.

[A]

And that's all I could really ask for, to be honest.

[C]

They would also know you would talk about it on the sip for so long.

[A]

No, I know. I'm like so much. Free promo vlog. The behind the scenes of the day. I wouldn't be able to. I'm sure everyone is already sick of me talking about my life as an actress. And it is what I've been spiraling about. So.

[B]

Spiraling. Yes.

[A]

Just like I heard because I'm not a good decision.

[B]

When I was. No, when I was getting ready for the podcast, I heard, is Sandy an actor too now?

[A]

Oh my gosh. Sandy is trying to convince Jared to move back to la. She said it was such a. Like a crazy time in my life talking about Sandy when they lived in L. A. That she was like, I would really like to give it another go. And she was also inspired by your pilot and just people.

[B]

She did good.

[A]

Chasing what they just like chasing something or like going after what they're passionate about. And she was like, you know what? Watching like that, you got headshots. I really want to go sign up for an acting class too.

[C]

And she kind of already had to take a leap like that where they started doing YouTube full time. So it's like she's kind of in that mode already. So like, why not?

[A]

And that's what I told her now or never, baby, chase your dreams.

[B]

Even if my pilot never gets sold and ends up in the trash, why.

[A]

Would you say that? Created actors, you know. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

You know.

[C]

At least you gave the world more actors.

[A]

Something we need so much more of.

[C]

More actors in this day.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So what's going on? Do you want to talk? I mean, your life has been the pilot.

[B]

I don't want to talk about it anymore. I feel like people hate it and they're annoyed at me.

[A]

That's how I feel about.

[B]

I actually don't know. I haven't seen those comments yet, but I think it literally is my entire life right now. I'm so stressed. It's all. That's on my. We have a screening this week. I'm getting notes on it, like, but I feel like I talk about it too much, so I'm not going to talk about it. But what I will say is it has really affected my step journey. Mm.

[A]

And positively or negatively?

[B]

Negatively.

[A]

Oh, because you're not stepping while you're editing. You can walk while you.

[B]

I can walk while I'm editing a YouTube video, I think, because I've just done it for so many years. But when you're trying to edit something, like, professional like that, sweating and fucking panting, you know, it affects the work.

[C]

Yeah, I can see that.

[A]

I know, but we watched the first cut of it. I thought it was incredible. There was one scene where you've been hung up on since we watched it a week ago, but I think it's getting there.

[B]

I figured it out. It was the music. There was, like, one scene that was really hard to shoot, but I don't want to. You guys are already bored.

[A]

I don't want to.

[B]

Sorry.

[A]

I always said it was the music from the beginning. Hate to be that girl. But I was honest with him. I said, the music's distracting me because it had. It had, like, talking lyrics.

[C]

Yeah. Anyway, I just.

[A]

Were being honest, being.

[C]

I think he just wants to move on.

[A]

Okay. All right, we'll move on. I prepared a game. I mean, I got a pee. Well, this is a relationship game. Spencer can join in, but it's like.

[B]

You know, okay, well, I'm gonna pee. You explain the game dispenser and I'll hear it.

[A]

Okay. Do you have a. Okay. I did. I talked about Shane's podcast, how I.

[C]

Felt at the beginning of each episode, a different one.

[A]

This isn't the game that I had prepared, but I just thought, like, you and I both didn't post our 2016 throwbacks. Why don't you Google 2016 on your. Not Google, but search.

[C]

I was looking, and I have almost no pictures of myself.

[A]

I feel like that's very you.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I don't really take pictures of.

[A]

Of yourself.

[C]

Of myself.

[B]

Let's see.

[C]

Go to the years. Let's see. 2016.

[A]

In 2016, Fifth Harmony was all the rage in pop culture. I caught Camila Cabello on the red carpet. Let me see where she is. Look at that.

[C]

We had very different 2016, just me.

[A]

And Camila Cabello, you know? Do you even know who that is?

[C]

Yeah, I know who Camila is.

[A]

She's like. Well, I've just said Jared wouldn't.

[C]

No, but you got to give me a little more credit than what Jared's.

[A]

So that was me trying to recreate it at Shane's house. I, like, tried to learn the dance and everything before TikTok was popular.

[C]

Wow. This is me at school doing a little joke. Just joking around.

[A]

I bet you still have that shirt.

[C]

It doesn't fit me anymore.

[A]

Nothing's changed.

[C]

I know. It's. I don't know.

[A]

You have to send it to me. I'll put it on.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was working full time at Clevver. Shane and I were heavily drinking because we were newly dating. That's actually the year Shane and I started dating. And so we would get drunk a lot. I came out on Instagram in 2016.

[C]

Huge year.

[A]

I didn't even, like, have a following, but I still, like, you know, came out. I still.

[B]

Oh, my God. I remember that.

[A]

Shane was.

[B]

We were at a Mexican restaurant.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I was so nervous, and I was like. He goes, what's the caption? I said, girl, it's the picture. You don't need a caption for that. Coming out.

[C]

This is me at some performance school, January 2017.

[A]

Oh, you got to get an agent, too. You've always been meant to be an actress as well.

[C]

This is a lip sync. I was lip syncing. I did, actually.

[B]

Lips.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I got to put these lips to work.

[A]

Putting them to work.

[B]

Oh, that could be your bio.

[C]

Putting these lips to work.

[B]

If you were, like, a singer or something. I put these lips to work.

[C]

It sounds like I'm talking about my pussy.

[B]

Oh, is that. Are you coming out? Okay.

[C]

I'm coming out as having a pussy.

[A]

So you had no reflections on our 10 years of being together?

[C]

This is your game?

[A]

No, but I'm just curious.

[B]

I love this interrogation vibe. Just two people staring at me and.

[A]

What are we gonna do on our anniversary when Is your.

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

March 19th.

[B]

I don't know. You got it. Maybe you plan that. I've planned all of them, so maybe you plan New Decades. Use my card, but you plan it.

[A]

Okay, it's between two hotels and they're both local. Ish. So we're not too far from home. Are the children right? All right, done. I'm booking that today. Are you free?

[C]

What's the thing you're supposed to get? Isn't there like a, like five years? Is this ten years? Is this. You're supposed to like, get gifts that are like, I'll look this up. And I might be wrong.

[B]

I don't want to do this. But you can do this next week on the Sip. But I just saw a really good Little Caesar's theory. Supposedly saw this on Instagram. It's actually crazy good if you eat it right away.

[A]

Like, I mean, isn't that the case with everything? I mean, Little Caesars. I think the worst of fast food could be almost okay if it's warm. Except for Arby's, right?

[C]

Warm is almost worse for Harvey's for some reason.

[B]

No, but I am curious because Little Caesars gets a lot of hate for their hot and ready's. But God, I lived on hot.

[A]

Is there even a Little Caesars around here?

[C]

Oh, yeah, there has to be.

[A]

Really?

[C]

They're all over the place.

[B]

Okay, those Hot and ready's for a single working mother. Little Caesars.

[C]

No, for real. You gotta have a birthday party. That's fine. It's like 25 bucks. That's five. Pizza.

[A]

Has inflation caught them or are they still.

[C]

No, that's that. They're still. They're still.

[A]

After all these.

[C]

Maybe a few bucks.

[A]

They were $5 back in 202009 when I moved here.

[B]

They were $5 back in 1998, baby.

[C]

Little Caesars is a real one. Apparently the CEO is a good guy, too, supposedly. All right, I have some. Have you tried their crazy puffs? No.

[B]

No, but that's how I feel.

[A]

Little Caesars is in our future. Crazy.

[C]

By the way, the 10 year anniversary gift is tin or aluminum, so maybe you skip that one.

[A]

Tin and what? Like, it's like.

[C]

It's like you're supposed to gift your partner something made of like. And then like 20 is gold, silver, and then there's gold and whatever.

[B]

It's.

[C]

I don't know where that came from, but get yourself some aluminum. Some nice aluminum.

[B]

We never had a wedding cake.

[A]

We've had enough.

[C]

You guys. You guys have made up. That's the set, like, your psychological need for all these cakes.

[A]

Okay, so I was, like, reminiscing on fights with Shane and Ryland because, like, you know, a solo podcast to the two of us, and then, well, our third. Our third whale. Is that mean to say?

[C]

It's. It's the facts.

[A]

Okay, so red or green flag? Are you ready? Red or green flags.

[B]

I'm staring out the window. My therapist, whenever I stare out the window, she goes, where'd you go?

[A]

Where did you go?

[B]

And then I had to make up a lie because I'm like, I'm not telling her.

[C]

That's how I felt.

[B]

No, I. I'm very honest with her. I'm like, you. You ready?

[C]

Strap in.

[A]

Green flag. Reading your partner's texts. I have never.

[B]

Reading my texts.

[A]

Reading your partner's text. Like, if I were to grab your phone.

[C]

Really? Or you asked to read them?

[A]

I think both.

[B]

That's a conversation.

[A]

Like, I mean, why would you ask to read them? You'd have to be suspicious, right?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. I think red for both.

[A]

I don't even know Shane's phone password.

[C]

Yeah, I think that's.

[B]

I give you my phone anytime you want it.

[A]

I mean, I'm not saying it's restricted from me, but I'm saying, like, I've never been like, oh, I need to know his phone.

[C]

Yeah, but they're. Yeah, people who, like, need to know.

[A]

It, but, no, I've never. You know, my phone password.

[C]

That feels like a younger relationship type thing. Like, reading, like, Right. All the. Like, I don't know, just lack of security.

[A]

Okay. Posting your partner without asking. I don't care. Like, if I posted a picture of you on Instagram without getting your approval, maybe it's different for us.

[B]

Depends on how I'm feeling that day.

[C]

Yeah. Really?

[B]

Some of your pictures are rough. And then if I just go on Instagram and I'm like, oh, but I never tell you to take it down. I just say I'm not sure.

[A]

Every time there's a photo on your story of me. It's also rough, and I don't care.

[C]

Yeah, I wouldn't say that's a red flag, but I would say that's, like, dangerous territory if I did it, like, you know what? I know not to do that in a relationship. Like, a girl would not be happy about that. I know that that's a big faux pas. So I wouldn't say it's a red flag. I don't care if they do it to me. Really? I have enough. I mean, look, at me and, you know, like, this is going out to the public, so there's enough of them.

[A]

Out there sleeping angry.

[B]

Sleeping angry?

[A]

Yeah, like going to bed angry after a fight.

[B]

Oh, yeah, we don't do that. I mean, even if we have a big fight, we at least send a little I love you text.

[A]

Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever, like, gone to bed mad mad at you.

[B]

No. Well, not gone to bed, but like, if we're like mad at each other and then you fall asleep during drag race, but then. But by the time.

[A]

Yeah, that means I'm not that angry. If I'm like falling asleep on the couch next to you, tired from all that. If I'm. If I'm like, on the other side of the house and I fell asleep, that would be drama, right? Yeah.

[C]

Huh.

[A]

Okay. What about you?

[C]

I've never lived with.

[A]

Never lived partner.

[C]

No.

[B]

So when would that have happened? I don't know. You've never been in a super long relationship where you've lived with someone at your young age.

[A]

I guess you're more long term relationship.

[C]

I've only been in one really long term relationship.

[A]

You guys didn't live in the same city, right?

[C]

No, I mean, we, like went to college together for a little bit. So, like, that's pretty close. And that's like, there's definitely. And we live like a few blocks away from each other, so, like, there's definitely times where it was like, you know, mad, and then you walk home kind of mad. But, like, you know, it is what it is. If it's like a. I think it's fine. I mean, it's. I don't know, it's probably not good to do, but like, is what it is.

[A]

Yeah, I think it's a red flag. But if you have to do it, you have to do it. No, I just think it's like over time, doing it consistently, if you do.

[C]

It, a lot would be bad. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I think everyone would agree. Arguing in public's a red flag. That's a weird1.chat GPT liking thirst traps. I think this is the biggest red flag. That is so weird.

[B]

You know what's crazy?

[A]

So many people do it. I know so many people I follow that are in relationships. It will be like, liked by, like suggested liked by. And it's like somebody that's in a long term committed relationship liking the thirstiest.

[B]

Like, it's pretty crazy. And I, I don't.

[A]

I guess maybe more people. Some people's relationships are just more open or maybe they're like, I wouldn't even porn together.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or maybe they're like liking it while they're scrolling in bed together.

[C]

No, I think it's a private thing and I think.

[A]

Do they not know it's public?

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Like, I think I would confront you. Like, if you were liking, I would be like, crazy. I'd be like, could you stop?

[B]

It's. I wouldn't. Even if I wasn't a public person or whatever, I still wouldn't. Yeah, do. It's just weird. But, but no, no judging any of the thirsty likers.

[C]

If you're single and you're doing it, go for it. You think they're gonna notice you? Go for it.

[A]

Falling asleep to tv. I think it's a red flag.

[C]

That what he does every night.

[B]

Every fucking night.

[A]

But we don't share the same room. But if I would not be able to do it, I wouldn't be able to fall asleep.

[C]

Yeah, I mean, it's not a red flag. I just, I don't think I could do. I mean, I've done it, but like.

[B]

Oh, wait, you're saying falling. Sorry, you do it every night. But you're saying like, I, I right now I put on a black screen. Like 24 hour black screen or whatever. I put that on. I hope it's not a prank because I feel like they could get me.

[C]

What do you mean?

[B]

Well, I, I thought about last night. I was like, I clicked on one I hadn't clicked on yet. And then I was like, what if at like hour three.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that was.

[B]

It's like, I'll be here before.

[A]

Well, but what happens is then when it ends at 12 hours, something starts playing so loud through the entire house.

[B]

And sometimes like last time we went out of town town and we came back and there was like a steel mill, like, like environment. It was like, hey, come lay this pipe down. And I was like, what the is going on? And it was.

[C]

That's crazy.

[B]

Yeah. But sometimes though, I will turn on like a, a random, you know, movie review, live stream or something and fall asleep. And then I'll wake up to like two angry nerds fighting about Star wars. And I'm just like, I'm up.

[C]

Sleep to Big Brother, right?

[B]

Fall asleep to Big Brother. Well, not really because they just, they fall asleep too, right?

[C]

You're kind of with them.

[B]

Yeah. I need someone talking, you know, quietly.

[C]

I usually fall asleep to like, I'll play like an, like a audiobook or something. Like, I play like I don't like.

[A]

Pick your spot back up.

[C]

You can do the, like, 30 minutes until then. It's like stops after 30 minutes or something like that. And then I can sort of scroll back or whatever. I mean, there's definitely been a lot of audiobooks. I'd have someone asked me a question about it, I'd be like, I couldn't tell you a single thing, but it.

[A]

Put me to sleep.

[C]

Really? Well, it's maybe in my, like, subconscious or something.

[A]

Eating your partner's leftovers.

[B]

Didn't know where that was going. I mean, that's something we both do.

[A]

Yes, we do. But it's a red flag.

[B]

That would really let you literally eat my stuff and then I'll eat your stuff?

[A]

I, I'm. I'm just saying. Yes. No, we do.

[B]

So how's that a red flag?

[C]

Okay.

[A]

It's secret. We do it.

[C]

That's fine.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

That would make me so mad if someone did that to me. Yeah. I get weird about some stuff like that, especially because if it's like, oh, I'm looking forward to that, and then it's gone, it's like, what the fuck? You can't get too mad.

[B]

But I don't feel bad because I always bought it.

[C]

Yeah, right.

[B]

It's always technically mine, and I'm loaning it to him. And then if there's half an erewhon wrap in there and he's never gonna eat it and it's gonna go rotten, and that motherfucker was $30. I'm eating it.

[C]

Yeah, that's fair.

[A]

Okay. Venting about your partner, two friends, that's.

[B]

I don't like that.

[A]

I don't like it either, honestly.

[B]

Well, listen, we don't have, like, friends. No, we do, but I, I, I don't know what it is, but, like, the thought of venting about you to anyone makes me sick.

[A]

I, I understand people need to vent, and I have a lot of friends that will vent to me about their relationships. And I would. I never hold it. I never, like, hold it against them or hold it against their partner, because some people just need to get it out. Like, Lizzie obviously does it on a public platform.

[C]

Yeah. I was just trying to say, isn't that what this podcast is?

[A]

Yes, but I personally don't. I don't.

[C]

I think there's levels, too. I think it's like, if it's some small stuff, it's fine. It's whatever. This is just, like, annoying me. But if it's, like an actual relationship, relationship thing, it's like, I think you.

[A]

Should take it to the person you're in a relationship with.

[B]

You know what's weird? I don't even think I've ever talked about you in therapy. Wow.

[A]

Really? Well, does your therapist not be, like, problems? Well, does your therapist not say, what about your husband? Well, I would ask if I was your therapist.

[B]

You come up in conversation about, like, you know, if we've had to fire someone or what, and it's like, well, how did your husband feel?

[A]

Because that's always my drama in my life.

[B]

But we've never talked. Like, Rylan pissed me off, I guess, because when we do fight, we resolve it, and I don't feel the need to, like, go over it again with someone else.

[C]

Is this game just you guys flexing your good relationship on this podcast? It's kind of what it is.

[A]

I mean, we have. Well, we've taken jabs at each other a lot this podcast too.

[B]

What? Yeah.

[C]

Yeah, Jabs.

[A]

Like, he doesn't have anything nice to say to me about me 10 years in. I would say we're just compelled. We're compatible. And I would say the biggest thing is I feel like we tried to learn how each other communicates early on. I think if you want to be in a long term relationship because we process the world differently.

[B]

Yeah. Set your expectations. Well, no, for a long time, I get compliments.

[A]

For a long time, I would just.

[B]

Be like, the food.

[A]

What?

[B]

I get yelled at for not using the dishwasher even though she's right here.

[A]

We have different strengths and weaknesses. People are gonna like people. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

And I think you get, like. I don't know. You guys don't, like, hold on to, like, certain couples. It's like, remember when he did that? It's like, that was like a year ago. But it's like. Like, not that you guys have those issues, but, like, you guys don't, like, feel. I don't. I don't know that well, but, like, you don't hold on to things that.

[A]

No. And I don't. We don't have. Well, maybe I. You have something reoccurring with me. I don't really have, like, an actual, like, personality reoccurring thing with you. It's more so like, I don't even.

[B]

Hold up dishes preferences with, like, postmates. That's where I just went. It's like, where'd you go? That's where I went. I was thinking about saying absolutely bonkers. I don't even use that word that you're. That's the Only word I could think of. I'll tell you off camera, it was the craziest thing another human being has done to me ever.

[A]

And it's always like, a delivery driver. The ones that have something to say feel, like, safe with Shane, to bear it all to him.

[B]

And I walked back inside, and I was like. And you know what? If I saw him tomorrow, I'd still give him a hug.

[A]

I texted him.

[B]

He's a hugger.

[A]

I was feeding the kids, and Shane was coming back in with our food.

[B]

Don't say what it was.

[C]

Is it that bad?

[A]

No, I'm not. I'm just saying you. You came back. Like, he went to go get food, and I had to text him and I said, did you get lost? Like, where are you? It's been ten minutes.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like, what are you doing? I thought he liked it.

[B]

20 minutes.

[A]

I literally thought you ditched us and went to, like, edit or something.

[B]

People like to vent about their lives to me. Even if I've never met them, they, like, open up this specific person I've never met and just definitely did not know who I was. So it wasn't like. Like, it was. I. It was. It was crazy.

[A]

He was just releasing.

[B]

That's a word for it. And the bad part is the bag was heavy. So he had handed me the bag, and now I'm holding it, and it's.

[A]

You put it down.

[B]

Was heavy. Well, putting it down means, like, give me more, girl.

[C]

You don't want to be like, okay, there's a police helicopter just circling right there.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Wait, really?

[C]

Yeah. Is there, like, a chase?

[A]

He's, like, low, too.

[B]

Wait, I don't see him.

[C]

Why don't Obama?

[B]

Is it Obama? It's Obama.

[C]

Oh, I told him.

[B]

He's never the drama.

[A]

I deleted the citizen app.

[B]

So should we lock our door? Oh, should the criminal come be on the sip?

[C]

That would be good. Hey, there's a thumbnail right there.

[B]

Hey, hide in here. We need a thumbnail. Want to go to Little Caesars? Have you had crazy puffs? Have you had a hot and ready in a while. They don't have them in prison, so. Different thing.

[A]

Okay. That's pretty much it.

[C]

I mean, what, for the show?

[A]

Well, that and the game.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, you know, thanks, Chat GPT. Thanks, Chat GPT.

[C]

So we're good? We're done or.

[B]

So are you guys going a Little Caesar? I got.

[A]

I'll figure out a food portion, you know, and if Spencer's down, then he can come with me. Shane's got to go back to work. Thank you so much for taking time.

[B]

Thank you so much for taking 10 years of you taking 10 years.

[C]

Stealing. 10 years I'll never get back.

[B]

Thank you so much of stealing. Oh, my God. All of my youth. I was him.

[A]

I was young.

[B]

No, you weren't. How old were you?

[A]

23.

[B]

Huh. That.

[C]

That's crazy.

[A]

And he was 26. He really did take all of my formative years.

[B]

You're acting like I was 50. I was 26.

[A]

He knew what he was doing. He was manipulative, and he locked me in.23.

[C]

You guys met. Wow.

[A]

And he won't let me leave.

[B]

I won't.

[C]

Yeah. Your life Sucks, huh? Wow.

[B]

23. That's like a. That's like a baby on Drag Race.

[A]

Isn't that crazy?

[B]

I know.

[A]

And now I'm old on Drag Race. If I were to go on age.

[C]

Tiers on Drag Race.

[B]

Yeah. So they have the baby queens. Those are usually, like, 19 to 22. And then they have, like, you know, the mothers, and that's usually, like, 30. But then, like, the grandmothers, that's like 38. 40.

[C]

Grandmother's is 38.

[B]

Yeah. And they say, come on, grandma. Come on, grandma. Grab your walker, Grandma.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

So you. Sorry, babe, you're out of the baby world.

[A]

Yikes.

[C]

I'm kind of getting that. My hope. My life is sort of feeling like that.

[A]

You're not a twink anymore.

[C]

No, I'm a Twinkie now.

[B]

I was gonna say it.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Well, not.

[C]

I'm dressed. I'm also dressed like a Twinkie.

[B]

You being a Twinkie. Me, like, I'm a twinkie.

[A]

Let's go get those cheetah.

[B]

Wait, so what do you mean that you feel old?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, not old, but it's just like. I think 27 is definitely like, a new.

[B]

Oh, don't die.

[C]

Like, you know, I mean, I also have a lot of older friends, so they're all, like, turning 30. They're all, like, having their 30th birthday and stuff like that. No, and so it's just like. Yeah, we're definitely at a different stage.

[B]

When I was your. Actually, no, I was younger, but I was dating someone who was 30.

[A]

Well, you were dating me in relationships.

[B]

No, when I was younger, I was dating someone who's 30. And so it was that age where, like, they're getting married.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

I. Not kidding. Went to 12 weddings in one year.

[C]

Yeah. Yes. It's that. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to. Yeah.

[B]

But I was just like, and I'm over here. I was probably, what, 23? I was just like, I'm a baby drag queen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm not ready to settle down.

[C]

That's even more. Yeah, because you're getting, like, taken to wedding something you don't even, like, know them. Know them like that. I don't know.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

But I learned a lot about cake. I really did. You know, I like and I would. I don't like.

[A]

You are my first real boyfriend.

[B]

Trust me, I know. Trust me, I know. But then, like, he'll bring up former things and I'm just like, you're talking about this person as if it was a relationship and not a one night grinder hookup.

[A]

Well, you know, you got recurring hookups.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

I just didn't like any of them enough to be in a relationship with. I enjoyed them, but they weren't. I didn't see longevity in us. And I'm not a waste of my time kind of person, you know, I'm like, we can have fun, we can.

[B]

Waste my nut, but not my time.

[A]

No. We would hang out a little.

[B]

Hang out a little.

[A]

Like, a little.

[B]

That's my fucking nightmare. Like you that you do it. And then now you're laying there and it's like shriveled bubblegum. And then you're like, so want to watch Traitors. Like, what the hell is this?

[A]

Well, no, I'm. I'm just saying, like, like, there. You never had somebody that you. Neither of you were right to be long term, but you, you didn't. Not like you didn't like.

[B]

No. Yeah. If I dated someone and then I knew it wasn't working, I ended it. Or it was just like, hey, I don't. I don't think you. I don't know. But I'm also weird. I don't want to do that because then I end up post meeting food, and then I hand the phone over and now we're all covered in nut and it's taken 10 years to put your order in.

[A]

God, let me do it. It's 10 minutes to order food. It's like if he's handing you, oh, my God, he wants it back in two.

[B]

Your family, who I adore.

[C]

God, even I know that they take for.

[B]

I will hand my phone over and I won't see that for three years. Three more iPhone models came out by the time I get my phone back.

[A]

Well, now it's. We're far enough along where if it's just me, my mom, and my sister, it's like, okay, we know what, what all three of us order. So at some points it's like, do you want this restaurant? And then we just like, order the usual.

[B]

But if we're adding in grandma and we're adding in, like, all the Adams.

[A]

Family, we're looking at 45 minutes before the orders even placed. And then at the end of it.

[B]

Somebody goes, actually, I don't want that. Now we're starting over and we always end up at Chili's. I'm just like, why? First of all, post meeting, Chili's is crazy. That's insane.

[A]

Nobody should ever talk about food that you need to consume.

[C]

For real. Yeah. There's a reason it's a restaurant.

[B]

Those chips and delivery. Those chips don't even stand from the kitchen to the table. They're chipped, they're broken. You think that motherfucker's gonna get in the car? 30 minute ride. No, that's chip dust. That's dust. See you guys later.

[A]

See you girls later. All right.

[C]

Whoa, whoa.

[A]

The sun behind us is crazy. I did. Well, we did. I was like, will there be a food portion or will there not? And Spencer was like, I'll go to little scissors with you. So I was like, okay, here we are. So why not kick it off with Little Caesars? We're here. And Shane's theory was what? That it's good if it's hot and rainy? Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's like, it's only good if it's really fresh. So I guess we have to eat it first and then eat it back at the office.

[A]

I don't think Shane's gonna try it. I don't think he wants. No, he doesn't. So we'll just eat it. We'll try. We'll try it in the car. But. So we're just getting everything or just a five dollar pizza.

[C]

I feel like a hot and ready. And then if they have some crazy puffs, I think we should.

[A]

And some crazy puffs. All right, let's ask them.

[C]

I think you have. You said you haven't. You've definitely had the crazy puffs before.

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[C]

Rain is fucked up.

[A]

We came here with my mom and my sister and my aunt, and I think that we did on the sip at one. Like, I think it's on the same.

[C]

Remember?

[A]

Yeah. And I. I am having flashbacks to this location specifically.

[C]

More flashbacks. It's beautiful here.

[A]

So pretty. All right. And we're here. They. We took whatever was hot and ready. We weren't gonna break the rules.

[C]

This Is all. I feel like the pizza is first. This is a. It's a good deal. Little pizza. It stays. I mean, do you have the receipt? I think it was. I think it's like still a six or five dollar hunt. Ready?

[A]

It was. Yes, it was 5.99 for the pizza.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

Oh, gosh. It's actually really pretty. Oh, wow.

[C]

Beautiful.

[A]

Let me get some B roll of that. She's actually gorgeous.

[C]

She's no Chuck E. Cheese.

[A]

She's.

[C]

It's perfectly circular.

[A]

Wow. It's a beautiful pizza.

[C]

This is great. Shout out to my friend Hannah who's obsessed with Little Caesars.

[A]

Really? You have a friend that's obsessed? It's.

[C]

Apparently it's from Detroit and she's from like Detroit and so people go nuts for it there. Apparently.

[A]

I don't know why. Really? Yeah.

[C]

That's like. It's a thing. And it's such a good deal. She had like crazy bread for her.

[A]

Birthday and we got their crazy sauce. I think it will fit if we just sauce.

[C]

The sauce was literally. The sauce was literally just on a shelf.

[A]

Like it was a crazy sauce.

[C]

It wasn't in a fridge or anything. It just is on a wooden shelf.

[A]

It looks good.

[C]

It does look good.

[A]

I've got to give it to them. I wonder how hot and ready it was. Like how long ago was it made?

[C]

I know it doesn't feel a little soggy. That's kind of the deal. You know what you're getting, you know, I mean, for cheaper than a frozen pizza.

[A]

It's all right.

[C]

That's pretty good.

[A]

I. Yeah, it's not, you know, it's.

[C]

Not gourmet.

[A]

But it's not bad.

[C]

Yeah, that's pretty good.

[A]

I like the crust.

[C]

And it was like in and out and like if you had to like feed. If you had like when your kids are older and you. They're like, have a birthday party. Be like, I have to go get like 10 pizzas. Like you could do that. In and out.

[A]

It's really not bad at all.

[C]

And I'm hungry.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I can also see how the theory. If this sat around for a little while, it might not be that good.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know if this is sitting at the office for four hours if we want to go back in.

[C]

Are you. Do you prefer. What's your take on cold pizza?

[A]

Oh, I'm into it.

[C]

Yeah, I'm really into it.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

Sometimes. What do I need to try?

[A]

Do we need to put it in the. Do I need to try it? Tomorrow.

[B]

Tomorrow.

[A]

Like, one bite once it's cold with Chris. I think maybe I will.

[C]

You might have to.

[A]

I'll put whatever's left over, I'll put in the fridge at the office. All right. We also got.

[C]

This is our crazy bread. I don't know what makes me so crazy.

[A]

Is the bread crazy or is just the sauce crazy?

[C]

I think it's crazy bread and crazy sauce.

[A]

Oh, my God. It is crazy.

[B]

Whoa.

[C]

Oh, my.

[A]

I guess what's crazy is just a.

[C]

It is kind of.

[A]

Is it like garlic butter?

[C]

Wow, you can smell.

[A]

Oh, it's crazy. This is gonna ruin my life.

[C]

This is gonna be rough.

[A]

I don't know. I might have to. Garlic manifests in my body in a crazy way.

[C]

What does that mean? You shit.

[A]

No, you just smell it coming out of every part of me for days. Like, it seeps out of my skin.

[C]

Maybe you should not stop using your natural deodorant.

[A]

I'm gonna use the crust from the pizza unless you tell me it's incredible.

[C]

No, it's not. It's not very good. It's pretty stale.

[A]

The crazy sauce is cold.

[C]

How is it cold? It wasn't in a fridge.

[A]

It's, like, freezing.

[C]

I don't understand. No, no on the crazy bread for me. Hannah, I don't know why you had this at your birthday.

[A]

The pizza's not bad.

[C]

Pizza's pizza's better than the crazy bread.

[A]

I mean, for. For the price, it's great.

[C]

Try just a little bit of the end. Just a little bit, just to see. Because it's just not, like. It feels, like, stale.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It's, like. It's, like, not good.

[A]

It's, like, warm, but it feels like it's been under a heat lamp for 400 years.

[C]

Yes. And also, I would say wings that are just, like, ready to go suspicious. Kind of the worst way to eat a wing.

[A]

I don't know how I feel about a bone in wing. It's very straight. Very straight.

[C]

Well, perfect for me. Bone in wings. Well, I don't know. I thought they like a bone. RuPaul sort of joke.

[A]

That was good.

[C]

Hit me on Drag Race.

[A]

I wonder. You know, I'll try the bone in wing. How is it?

[C]

Tastes exactly what it looks like. A wet, sort of old wing.

[A]

Sort of old. I don't know.

[C]

Yeah, it's. You can really use some ranch, I'll say that. And wings are my favorite food, really. So this is kind of a high bar for me, so I'm kind of the straightest guy there.

[A]

It's a little more juicy than I thought it would be.

[C]

That's true. It's not dry, but it's just kind of sitting in a puddle of, like.

[A]

I'm not a wing girl, per se, so I don't have much to compare it to. No, I don't.

[C]

You don't strike me as much of a wing girl.

[A]

I'm not, like, slurping wings.

[C]

You and Shane go. Go get some beers and some wings at the local bar.

[A]

No, I think the act of, like, chewing on the chicken bone is just very.

[C]

You like that?

[A]

I mean, I'm having an okay time.

[C]

Thanks.

[A]

If I think about it too much, though, I'll get like. You can see the joint. It's like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

It's a little too real. I feel that.

[A]

Like, I'm no. I'm no saint when it comes to not eating meat, but when you can see the innards. Yeah.

[C]

Once it becomes real, when it's in nugget form, you can't tell anything.

[A]

I like the boneless wings from Wingstop.

[C]

I do like Wingstop. If you're getting fast food wings, it's gotta wing stuff, you know?

[A]

I'm not mad at the pizza at all.

[C]

No. For six bucks? Are you kidding me?

[A]

I'm into it.

[C]

Yeah. You're still putting my first.

[A]

No, but you can have a second.

[B]

No.

[C]

If you're not doing it, it's bad manners.

[A]

I don't know. I think I'll have a second piece, too. This is my lunch, too. I was gonna dab some of the.

[C]

Grease off the pepperoni. I love pepperoni. But I also have bad skin, and it's a real.

[A]

Yeah, I think. Cheese and sugar. People say no, but I say yes.

[C]

That's the best. Those are the two best things.

[A]

Well, I love them. They just break me out.

[C]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[A]

Cheese and sugar.

[C]

Oh, they're saying they don't break you up. People say that.

[A]

Like, every time I say that, Shane rolls his eyes at me. He's like, that's not how it works.

[C]

Great skin.

[A]

Yes. I'm like, as a person with great teeth and great skin. Skin. You can't. You can't comment on how.

[C]

It's pretty privileged.

[A]

Yeah. Yes. He really thinks my sister and I are lying when we're like, a lot of sugar breaks us out. He's like, that's not how it works. I'm like, not how it works for you.

[C]

The worst for me is if I drink, like, especially two days in a row, then I wake up, I guess. So broken out, which is kind of. Kind of today.

[A]

The pepperoni is pretty good on it, actually.

[C]

I love pepperoni. Damn, pizza is good. I love pizza.

[A]

I do, too. Wow. Pizza.

[B]

Pizza.

[A]

All right, you guys. Well, hit up your local Little Caesars.

[C]

Oh, they also didn't have crazy puffs or they had to make them.

[A]

Yeah, they were like, it's gonna be 14 minutes. And we were like, you know, that defeats the purpose of hot and ready.

[C]

She was just alone in there, and I was like, you don't have to make us crazy puffs. Your job seems hard.

[A]

It was loud, too, and it seemed really. It's just like, what is that? And I was like, I think they're making dough. She goes, we are making duff. At least you know they're making it.

[C]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, actually. Yeah. Yeah. It's not like Subway, you know, in the. You see the bread they bring in, and it's just like a little. It looks like a crazy bread, and then they grow it or whatever.

[A]

They're like, we fly it. Wait, they grow the bread?

[C]

I guess they bake it. That's more what I meant to say. It grows, but it. It does. It's not like it doesn't look normal, like, I don't know.

[A]

Right.

[C]

It looks a little up. Anyway, sorry, you're trying to hit the outro, and I kind of interrupted you.

[A]

Oh, no, I'm not in a rush.

[C]

Oh, well.

[A]

Well, you guys make sure you're following all of us. We're. We're listening. All of us. You know, Lizzie, Chris, Shane, you guys.

[C]

Don'T have to follow me. It's okay, really. What can they want?

[A]

Are you gonna post something?

[C]

I put my.

[A]

You made one post.

[C]

2026 is going to be the year of Spencer on the online. He's gonna come back full force.

[A]

And which. Do you have a brand strategy?

[C]

Let's start with posting more than one photo per year, and then we'll see. Because last 2025, I posted once, and I've already posted again in 2026 with the.

[A]

I just went into park.

[C]

And so we're on a good. On the good track. I'll be. I need to post on my story more. You know, I don't need to, but I want to.

[A]

The story is, I think, a more attainable goal.

[C]

It's the gateway drug to posting. Because then you're taking pictures. You're like, oh, take a picture of this. Because when I tried to do my year recap, I was like, I have to do this as a bit Because I don't have any photos of this year. They're all just, like, me on a hike. Like, oh, that's cool. And it was like, I could have posted that on my story, but now it's a day later and it doesn't make any sense.

[A]

And are you in it or is it.

[C]

No, it's just the view. And it's like, so then what's the point?

[A]

Drama. Wow. You know, I do take pictures of a lot of things, and I still don't post on Instagram. I only post promotion. Only promotion for videos.

[C]

Maybe that's your goal. You need to post a. No, I'm just not.

[B]

I'm not.

[A]

I'm not. I don't know. For some reason, I like Instagram. Feels like, too much pressure. It's like, oh, I gotta have. Like, if I'm posting a picture, I really think this picture is great to post it to share with you.

[C]

Especially if you haven't posted in a while and it's like, in your mind, it's like, this is the big one. I'm coming back. It's like, no one gives a fuck.

[A]

No, no, nobody cares.

[C]

Like, they just see it in their feed. Like, oh, cool.

[A]

They're just scrolling. Like, they're always scrolling.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

But I think with photos, I just always feel like even with photos in general videos, there's so much to offer photos. It's like, do I look good or not?

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Yeah. And that's all you have.

[C]

No offense, but you guys also don't go do. I mean, you do some. Like, you could have posted some photos from, like, concerts or something. You.

[A]

But, like, yeah, we don't do much.

[C]

People who, like, go do stuff a lot, like, post photos. But I don't like.

[A]

But then you have to, like, get dressed, do something, and make and prioritize taking a photo.

[C]

Well, you don't have to prioritize it. Wow, those dogs look crazy. Sorry, is that a fetch. Oh, yeah, we're parked in front of it. I forgot what I was saying.

[A]

But yeah, just taking photos.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

All right. Check our Instagrams out. We're gonna post photos. I never know. Even sometimes I'll, like, draft one.

[C]

Damn. You get that close. Wow.

[A]

You should do it to the 2016 throwbacks. The closest I got recently. And then I was like, no, no, thanks.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Whatever. All right, well, hope you. Oh, pizza. It's gonna, like. I'll put it on the floor. I'm just thinking, is it gonna grease through to the seats?

[C]

It was a pretty greasy these.

[A]

Not great. No, not crazy. If you like it, crazy bad. Okay, you guys, thank you so much for. For watching the sip. Gosh, I really forget how we outro the sip every. Oh. And that's the sip. We'll see you next week. We love you very much. Goodbye.

[C]

And that's the sip.

[A]

Toodaloo.

[C]

Bye.