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Hey there. Today's episode is hosted by the poet Dianelli Antigua. Enjoy and I'll be back on June 22nd. I'm Dianelli Antigua and this is the Slowdown. The moon is about 238,855 miles away from Earth, which is roughly 30 Earths lined up end to end. But moonlight only takes about 1.3 seconds to reach us. The distance feels impossible, and yet the light arrives almost instantly. It makes me think about how love can work like that too. How it can stretch across time and space and still arrive right when we need it. Even though I'm nearing my 40s, my mother still texts me good night every night. She always says, te amo, hasta la luna y de vuelta. I love you to the moon and back. But when I was in my early 20s, I didn't appreciate the nightly texts. I wanted to feel independent. I didn't want to answer to anyone. I'd get annoyed and not respond right away, which would only spark a series of worried messages followed by my own frustration almost 20 years later. There are nights when she forgets to text me, and now it's me who starts to panic. I run through the worst case scenarios. Maybe her blood pressure is too low. Maybe she slipped and fell. That's when I start sending the worried texts. When she finally responds, it's always simple. I'm okay, corazon, she'll say. She fell asleep on the couch watching a telenovela and my worry melts away. I realize we've switched places, how the care I once resisted is now the care I offer. How love keeps moving between us even as it changes shape. There's something about the phrase the moon and back that I don't think is really about distance. I think it's about return and knowing that no matter how far we go, someone will find their way back to us. Or maybe it's about imagining a love that doesn't have to come back at all. A love that keeps going, that builds something and that space between here and there. Today's poem plays with that idea. It takes that familiar phrase and reimagines it. What would it mean to stay there on the moon? To remain in that space of distance and possibility? This is a poem by Chen Chen I love you to the moon and not back. Let's not come back. Let's go by the speed of queer zest and stay up there and get ourselves a little moon cottage. So pretty. Then start a moon garden with lots of moon veggies. So healthy. I mean, I was already moonlighting as an online moonologist most weekends, so this is the immensely logical next step. Are you packing your bags yet? Don't forget your Sailor Moon jean jacket. Let's wear our Sailor Moon jean jackets while twirling in that lighter queer moon gravity. Let's love each other so good on the moon. Let's love the moon on the moon. The Slowdown is a production of American Public Media in partnership with the Poetry Foundation. To get a poem delivered to you daily, go to Slow down show and sign up for our newsletter. Find us on Instagram @downdownshow and bluesky@downdownshow.org this week's episodes of the Slowdown were written by me, Dianelli Antigua. The Slowdown's regular host is Maggie Smith. The show is produced by by Micah Kielban and Maria Wurtel. Our music is composed by Kyle Andrews, engineering by Derek Ramirez and Maurizio Dirico. Our editor and digital producer is Jordan Turgeon. Additional production help by Susannah Sharpless, Ruby Sigmund, and Lauren Humpert. APM's Director of Distribution is Amy Lundgren and our president, Ishandra Kabati.
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Cloud seeding has been around since the 1940s. It involves releasing silver iodide particles into cloud clouds, which cause water to freeze and fall out as snow or rain. And while the jury's still out on its potential as a water management tool, it's become a global industry nonetheless. I'm Amy Scott and this week on the How We Survive podcast, we're talking to Augustus Durico, a 25 year old former Thiel fellow and the founder of Rainmaker, a business that's racing to see Save the Great Salt Lake from collapse.
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Cloud seeding is a tourniquet for our water supply situation. Maybe a damn good one. Maybe more than a tourniquet.
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So is cloud seeding at scale the godsend solution? It seems to be. Find out this week on How We Survive, available on your favorite podcast.
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Episode 1536: i love you to the moon & by Chen Chen
Date: June 12, 2026
Guest Host: Dianelli Antigua
Poem: "i love you to the moon & not back" by Chen Chen
In this thoughtful episode of The Slowdown, guest host Dianelli Antigua meditates on the enduring expression "I love you to the moon and back", exploring how love stretches across space, changes shape through time, and transforms roles within relationships. Dianelli weaves personal reflection with poetic interpretation before presenting Chen Chen’s whimsical and imaginative poem, which re-envisions love as a permanent voyage, not a round trip. The episode gently uplifts the listener, inviting them to consider love as boundless and evolving, yet always anchored in care.
Changing Roles: Dianelli recounts how her mother has texted her “Goodnight, te amo, hasta la luna y de vuelta” (“I love you to the moon and back”) every night since she was young.
Role Reversal & Evolving Care:
On Space and Love:
On Role Reversal:
On Imagining Return:
Chen Chen’s Celebratory Playfulness:
The episode is gentle, reflective, nurturing, and imaginative. Dianelli Antigua’s narration is intimate and heartfelt, moving naturally into the poem’s playful, innovative tone. The episode invites listeners to reconsider the boundaries of love and how it inhabits both distance and closeness.
This episode of The Slowdown is for anyone yearning for deeper insight into how love endures, evolves, and can flourish in reimagined, joyous new spaces.