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It's major. As we take a look back at the Slowdown's deep well of episodes, we're revisiting some standout moments from past hosts. Today, we're going into the Vault to bring you an episode from Tracy K. Smith, one of the voices that helped shape the Slowdown into what it is today. This is just one of the many special selections from our archives.
Tracy K. Smith
I'm Tracy K. Smith, and this is the Slowdown. The very first stories of the supernatural that spoke to me were Bible stories. Maybe what's so interesting about the tales of Christ's miracles is that they're so analog. No space vehicles, no bleeping communication devices, just mountains, water, ancient dusty cities. Nevertheless, those gospels are tales of visitation from beyond our galaxy. Growing up in the church, there were so many prohibitions on what I was supposed to believe. Dinosaurs were problematic as they threatened to infringe upon the validity of the Bible's creation story. And if aliens reached us, wouldn't they throw a wrench into God's plans for the Second Coming? Being an obedient child, I allowed a number of walls to go up inside my imagination. Now I love the idea of a multiverse where angels and aliens are fast at work in dimensions beyond our own. In every source I've found, from out of body experiences to past life regressions to the Gnostic gospels once deemed heretical, we humans are unique in the universe, not because we're so advanced, but rather because we're restricted by the very human traits of fear, ignorance, and greed. Every single system we erect perpetuates these very same flaws. But the message from the stars is simple. It doesn't have to be this way. I hope we humans might change of our own volition. Barring that, I'm game for celestial intervention. Today's poem is on a spaceship somewhere long after Empire's collapse by Jesus A. Valles. Somehow, even in this future, amidst motherboards and cast aside MREs, every cool whip and Country Crock tub is still deceitful, more mystery than promise, housing nothing like its original cargo, but instead salsa and the week's beans. Even with the stars close enough to kiss the swerve heat of celestial bodies, Pegadito, every Danish butter cookie tin is still stocked with the seamstress's tools, her threads, thimbles and every needle that ever kept our miseries mended, and right above the cold steel of the bolted doors, the same thing as always, a horseshoe wrapped in red ribbon, a wreath of garlic, a picture of Son Hudas, and that gilded rendition of the Last Supper she ordered from the Home Interiors catalog. We are inside a leviathan waltzing with every lover. Moon, Jupiter's neglected and Earth is a distant story we are told before bed, right before she blesses us, and every morning still smells like huevos conchorizo and the Avon spray she loves most. Once on Earth someone told my Tia Kame, go back to your country, which she took to mean go home. And if the sky is the thing that follows us everywhere, she thought, if the vast black blue saw me born, then the sky is my home and every star is every place I've come from. Long after the Empire was no more, it was all the aunties who led every expedition, just like on Earth. It was all the TIAs who looked at an unknown and threw their heads back, cackling as they soared into the sky, showing the children, all of us, where exactly we belonged.
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Podcast Title: The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily
Episode: [encore] 454: On a Spaceship Somewhere, Long After Empire's Collapse by Jesús I. Valles
Release Date: July 16, 2025
Host/Author: American Public Media
In this special encore episode of The Slowdown: Poetry & Reflection Daily, American Public Media revisits a memorable moment from the podcast's archives. This episode features former host Tracy K. Smith, a Pulitzer Prize-winning poet and former U.S. Poet Laureate, who brings her unique perspective to the poetic realm. The focus is on the poem "On a Spaceship Somewhere, Long After Empire's Collapse" by Jesús I. Valles.
The episode begins with an introduction by an American Public Media representative at [00:47], highlighting the deep well of The Slowdown's past episodes. This special selection honors historical contributions by previous hosts, emphasizing the podcast's evolution and enduring legacy in presenting impactful poetry to its listeners.
Tracy K. Smith takes the spotlight at [01:17], offering a thoughtful reflection that interweaves her personal experiences with broader philosophical musings. She begins by sharing her early encounters with supernatural stories, specifically Bible narratives, and how they shaped her imagination:
“The very first stories of the supernatural that spoke to me were Bible stories...just mountains, water, ancient dusty cities.” [01:30]
Smith explores the analogy between ancient tales and modern science fiction, contemplating the intersection of faith, mythology, and extraterrestrial life:
“Nevertheless, those gospels are tales of visitation from beyond our galaxy.” [02:00]
She delves into the constraints of her upbringing within the church, discussing how prohibitions limited her imaginative horizons regarding topics like dinosaurs and potential alien contact:
“If aliens reached us, wouldn't they throw a wrench into God's plans for the Second Coming?” [02:30]
Despite these limitations, Smith harbors a fascination with the concept of a multiverse, where both angels and aliens operate across different dimensions. She reflects on humanity's uniqueness, not due to advancement but because of inherent flaws such as fear, ignorance, and greed:
“We humans are unique in the universe, not because we're so advanced, but rather because we're restricted by the very human traits of fear, ignorance, and greed.” [03:45]
Smith conveys a message of hope, suggesting that change is possible either through human agency or celestial intervention:
“It doesn't have to be this way. I hope we humans might change of our own volition. Barring that, I'm game for celestial intervention.” [04:10]
Transitioning to the poem, Smith introduces "On a Spaceship Somewhere, Long After Empire's Collapse," setting the stage for an evocative journey through its verses. She provides a nuanced interpretation, highlighting themes of decay, tradition, and resilience in a post-empire context.
Smith narrates vivid imagery from the poem, emphasizing the juxtaposition of futuristic elements with timeless domestic symbols:
“Somehow, even in this future, amidst motherboards and cast aside MREs, every cool whip and Country Crock tub is still deceitful, more mystery than promise...” [04:50]
She reflects on the persistence of human artifacts and memories, such as the seamstress's tools and religious symbols, despite the collapse of overarching systems:
“...a horseshoe wrapped in red ribbon, a wreath of garlic, a picture of Son Hudas...” [05:10]
Smith interprets the poem's setting aboard a leviathan spaceship as a metaphor for humanity's enduring spirit and the role of familial figures in guiding future generations:
“We are inside a leviathan waltzing with every lover...it was all the aunties who led every expedition, just like on Earth.” [05:40]
Towards the end of her segment, Smith ties the poem back to broader existential questions about home, identity, and belonging in the vastness of space:
“If the vast black blue saw me born, then the sky is my home and every star is every place I've come from.” [06:00]
Her reflection underscores the universal quest for meaning and the enduring connection to one's roots, even in the face of cosmic isolation.
This encore episode serves as a poignant reminder of The Slowdown's mission to provide moments of calm, inspiration, and deep reflection through poetry. Tracy K. Smith's insightful commentary enriches the listener's understanding of Jesús I. Valles' work, bridging personal narrative with universal themes.
Notable Quotes:
"The very first stories of the supernatural that spoke to me were Bible stories...just mountains, water, ancient dusty cities." — Tracy K. Smith [01:30]
"If aliens reached us, wouldn't they throw a wrench into God's plans for the Second Coming?" — Tracy K. Smith [02:30]
"We humans are unique in the universe, not because we're so advanced, but rather because we're restricted by the very human traits of fear, ignorance, and greed." — Tracy K. Smith [03:45]
"It doesn't have to be this way. I hope we humans might change of our own volition. Barring that, I'm game for celestial intervention." — Tracy K. Smith [04:10]
"If the vast black blue saw me born, then the sky is my home and every star is every place I've come from." — Tracy K. Smith [06:00]
For those interested in exploring more episodes, The Slowdown offers a rich catalog featuring voices from hosts like Tracy K. Smith, Ada Limón, Jenny Xie, Brenda Shaughnessy, Tina Chang, Nate Marshall, Shira Erlichiman, and Jason Schneiderman. Each host brings their unique selection of poems, aiming to move and inspire listeners daily.
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