We’re coming up on Giving Tuesday, which is a good time to reflect on what we’re giving our time and money to. Today’s guests, Abe Collier and Melissa Robel, discuss their own wrestles with this question as they heeded unexpected calls to found their own humanitarian organizations. I was eager to talk to Abe and Melissa because their organizations are both young and small — right at that point where leadership can be lonely and it’s easy to wonder am I crazy for even attempting this?

Abe is the founder and director of Dignity Aid International, which delivers essential food and hygiene supplies to rural villages and psychiatric hospitals in Ukraine. Melissa is the president and founder Pads 4 Refugees, which supplies disposal menstrual products to women in refugee camps. Both Abe and Melissa caught their inspiration while volunteering (separately) in refugee camps in Greece, noticing unmet needs at different extremes. While being a founder sounds sexy — and it certainly takes a lot of confidence — it also asks for humility to sit in spreadsheets, patience to communicate across cultural and language barriers, and grace for people living through the immediate effects of war, displacement, chaos, and loss. Sometimes life feels like a hero's journey and sometimes it feels like grunt work. As we discuss, both mindsets are necessary to getting things done in the world.Follow these awesome organizations for more information:Dignity Aid International: Follow on Instagram or Substack | Donate | Volunteer Pads 4 Refugees: Follow on Instagram or LinkedIn | Donate

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The Hero's Journey vs. the Grunt Work -- with humanitarians Abe Collier & Melissa Robel