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The Spiritual Hustler
She Built Two 9-Figure Companies by Disrupting the Matrix: Now Miki Agrawal is About To Do It Again
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Jessica Zweig
I've got some big news. Spiritual Hustlers. The Spiritual Hustler movement just got a little bit bigger. Mm. We are now officially on YouTube. That means you can now watch full episodes, see all of the energy in real time, and connect with me and my epic guests on a whole new level. If you love listening, and I'm pretty sure you do because you're here, imagine how much more powerful it is to see the passion, the breakthroughs, the genius of my guests, the magic unfold right in front of you. So hit the link in the show notes to subscribe, turn on your notifications and come join us for even more fun. Branding, business, spirituality and divine feminine magic over on YouTube. Now let's dive in to today's episode. Welcome to the Spiritual Hustler podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Zweig, multi seven figure serial entrepreneur, best selling author and branding and business coach. And this is a show where we are redefining the word hustle, reclaiming our true feminine nature of magnetism and putting down the self judgments and shame around loving to work and making a lot of money at it. On this show, you're going to learn how to stop hustling and start spiritually hustling. By pressing play, you are now part of a new movement of women who don't hustle for money. We hustle for meaning. We don't hustle from lack. We hustle for love. We don't hustle from survival. We hustle for humanity's thriving. We hustle toward healing the ancestral programming of fear and step into a new understanding of safety in the body. To receive this shift isn't going to only heal your life. It's going to make you a whole lot richer too. This is the Spiritual Hustler podcast. Well, hello my beautiful spiritual hustlers, Lightworker queens, my God assistas. I'm so happy to be here with you. You know how happy I am here to be with you each and every week on the podcast. This is the place where I get to go so, so deep or I don't have to Instagramify in 6 seconds or less all of the things that I deeply believe in, that I know you believe in too, that we're here to talk about. We're here to unpack, we're here to awaken and remember into as lightworker, new earth leaders of this incredibly, incredibly important time in humanity. And this guest that I have today couldn't be just more perfect for this show and for this conversation that, you know, I love to have on really Recalling the codes of not only who we're here to be as women, honestly, but who we are here to be as people, how we are to truly make this world a better place with the work that we do. You know, I coach so many women in my community, in the feminine frequency business school, in my mastermind, at my retreats and my membership. I hear from so many of you on Instagram and, you know, we're all out here hustling, we're all out here doing our thing to make moves, make money, make a difference. And yet what seems to be the most beautiful golden thread, you could call it a red thread, you could call it an iridescent thread, a galactic thread, really is what it is that connects us all, is our deep call to service and that we're here not just to make money, but we're really here to make a world filled with more depth, with more connection, with more meaning, with more healing for all. You know, when we operate in the old world paradigm of building businesses that are just to fill our own pockets, we are stuck in the patriarchal old paradigm that just honestly is fucking dying. It is dying in real time. And I think if you're here, you're listening to my show, you've already been initiated into that awakening and an understanding that we're here to play a much bigger game than our own selfish gain. I shouldn't say not a lot of people, but I think more and more people are waking up. It is coming online. I really believe in the next few years, we're going to have a global, massive collective shift of consciousness. And those of us that are here now, awake, ready? This is our super bowl and this is our moment that we've all been waiting for. I really couldn't think of a more beautiful guest than my guest today who's a visionary, who is a way shower, who is a disruptor, who is a trailblazer, who has done this work, I call it the light work, a couple times over, has built a few nine figure businesses in her career, and she's about to go do it again. And I really want this conversation today to be the ultimate reminder for all of you that you are here to play such a big part in this moment in time. And it's so easy to get caught up in how much money we made this month, or how many people liked our last Instagram post, or how many people opened our email, or if we got invited to the thing that we felt we should have been invited to, or the amount of money that the client said they were able to afford wasn't what we were expecting. That is the micro 3D minutiae that honestly keeps us stuck in a toxic hustle, which is the whole premise of this podcast here on the Spiritual Hustler where we talk about the blending, the cohesion, the absolute necessity of blending business, branding, leadership, revenue growth with a mission, with our spiritual cause. And when we plug in to source itself, when we really do this work of walking the spiritual path. And that looks different for all of us. For some, it is our God that we grew up with and were raised with. For some, it is relationship to nature. For others, it's, you know, Palladians, the galactic extraterrestrial star families, if you're like me. For some it's our animals. For some it's simply tuning into the frequency of love, which is really the whole, the whole game. It's all love. I really know that you've been called to listen to this show because you are meant to lead it differently, to do it differently, to be it differently. And Mikki Agrawal is one of those women that I have honestly been celebrating and cheering for and been truly personally impacted by now for almost a decade. She is the founder of some of the most innovative companies and disruptive companies in the world. She founded thinx, the period underwear that maybe some of you have. I certainly do. Tushy World's first portable bidet, which she's going to talk about. She's written two best selling books, Do Cool Shit and Disrupt Her. She was recognized by Fast Company as one of the most creative people in the world and by the World Economic Forum as a young global leader. Mickey is a force, she is a presence. She is really unlike any entrepreneur I've ever met. And she's really established herself as the woman that is known to, quite frankly, and to be blunt, just fuck the status quo. But in service of the new earth, like the woman has a consciousness and an ability to see the future and to really create products and businesses that are here to help steward the future forward in a more harmonic and socially good capacity, not just financially good. And she got really emotional on this conversation for a lot of reasons. But she's embarking on her fourth venture called Hero Technologies. And it is really a company that is aiming to solve the global plastics crisis. Because we are in a crisis. The amount of plastic that we produce as a planet is going to kill the planet if we don't do something about it. And that's not me being dramatic, that's actual data and statistics and Science. And she has cracked the code on a nature inspired plastic eating fungi that she's going to break down today that is coming to market in its first product of baby diapers, which I know I have a lot of moms in this community, so I hope you really turn the volume up and listen to this conversation intently. Although this is a powerful, powerful conversation, even if you don't have children, trust me, you're going to want to listen to the very, very, very end. And you know, diapers account for the biggest waste of plastic, the most long lasting plastic in all of our landfills. It's true, sabotage to our planet among many things. But because she herself is a mom, she had a beautiful awakening with the sun that she birthed. And his name is Hero H I R O. And so the company is named after him. If you're looking to be inspired today to really know that your life, your day, your one step at a time matters, this episode is for you. And so I could not be more honored to have this total lightworker game changer world shifter feminine leader of the new earth rising on the spiritual hustler today. And we're going to link to all of her businesses and all of her socials and she's got a beautiful event coming up this week that you're going to not want to miss. I'll link to that in the show notes. It's a global day of prayer as she launches this. To even call it a conscious business is an understatement. It is a true world changing opportunity for all of us to get behind. And I hope that you really get involved in her mission. You buy her products, you spread the word and that you take this conversation today and spread this podcast so that more and more people can become awake and remembered just like you and I are and just like Mickey is and all of the women in this community. It takes a village, as Mickey says. And I'm so excited to introduce you to her and her village on this podcast today. And fuck shit up for the greater good. As I like to say, we do it with love, we do it with light, we do it with feminine power, we do it with consciousness and we do it with our soft power as Mickey describes as women in business, there is a different way and she's walking it first. And I'm so excited for this conversation. So without further ado, here's my amazing, amazing interview with Mickey Agro. I'm so honored, truly. I have a bunch of thinx underwear in my drawers. Like no girl, I've been following your journey forever. You're a true innovator and a world changer. And I'm so excited about this beautiful thing you're about to launch in the world. But before we get into it, Mickey, welcome to the show.
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Mikki Agrawal
Thank you. I love your energy and your self assuredness.
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Jessica Zweig
I'm a Leo.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah, it's great. It's awesome. Thank you.
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Jessica Zweig
Thank you. I want to ask you, babe, because you really, in many ways, in so many ways, in all the ways, epitomize what it means to be a spiritual hustler. So my first question for you is, what are you currently spiritually hustling for?
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Mikki Agrawal
Well, I think since I had my son, a hero, I think so much of your purview of the world shifts of like, oh, like I really am considering, like, what world am I leaving behind? Like, what world you want to introduce to the next generation. And then like one step further and one rung further, like, how is nature supporting that? Like, and how are we creating an ecosystem that's so sturdy and so robust and so connected that it can hold the individuals of our children, each other, ourselves, future generations. Future generations. And I think that, you know, it's like you go from such a me world because when we're young, we kind of, we know it all, we think we're, you know, and then as we get older, there's like this shift to like an ecosystem led approach which is like, is everyone okay? How's everyone doing in the ecosystem? You know, how is nature doing? How are the community doing? How has my company doing? And I think once if the ecosystem is solid, then it does, the individual is solid too. Versus like I'm working on myself. I'm solid, I'm solid, I'm solid. But the ecosystem's falling apart. It's just going to create a crumbly ground that you're just not going to be strong for. So. So I think like the idea of like, what am I spiritually hustling right now is like the idea of an ecosystem LED world. Yeah, it's like an ecosystem focused world. And so I think for me, like how that shows up in the world is creating my next which is hero, named after my son.
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Jessica Zweig
I love your son, by the way. I've seen him on Instagram. There's a full on starseed light work. He's amazing. Well, you guys are amazing. So of course you procreated and made this beautiful human out of this earth.
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Mikki Agrawal
He is amazing. And you know, since he was born, we just realized the insane amounts of waste that comes with creating a child or a human into the world. You know, even when you go to lunch, like the lunch trash that you. All of that just each person, each meal, it's just like that takes hundreds of years to break down in a landfill. And we don't even consider like a, a plastic bag. Like its lifespan is 15 minutes and it takes hundreds of years to break down in a landfill. It's just like when you think about it is insane. And when I kind of looked at, you know, the number one household plastic waste item, which is a baby diaper. Yeah. It's, you know, the number three waste item in a landfill. There's 6,000 per baby that the baby goes through every year. And every diaper takes four to 500 years to break down a landfill. The very first disposable diaper is still in a landfill somewhere today.
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Jessica Zweig
That's fucked up.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, and like the stat that I, that you can visualize that it's like the number of diapers that end up in a landfill every year could circle the earth 33 times per year. And so there's such a wow to that.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
And as a new parent, you're just like bright eyed, bushy tailed. You're like, you know, so excited for like this new world and this new baby and then you're just entering into this world of waste. And I think like what I'm you know, hustling for and I think it's so funny because I'm the word hustle is, is like interested in launching a company. Not from the hustle.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
But from a prayer, you know. And so it's a different approach, which is why this is an interesting conversation at all. Because how do those two collide? You know, it's a very interesting thing. So anyway, so hero is we've created the world's first diaper that is both high performing but also breaks down with the help of our plastic eating fungi. So it's sort of like another step back is like when you think about nature for, for hundreds of millions of years when trees were falling down and, and they would die, you know, the only being that can break them down and turn them back into nature is certain types of decomposer fungi. And it turns out carbon backbone of these trees are very similar to the carbon backbone of plastic. So you can actually take these fungi that have been breaking down trees for hundreds of millions of years and harness them to break down plastic as well.
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Jessica Zweig
How did you make that connection? Like how did you figure that out?
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. My son Hiro gave me the answer. I was sort of staring at my window just like this, looking at a tree, just thinking like how breast milk is liquid gold and therefore baby poop must be fertilizer gold. And while I was like, wow, what could the baby poop fertilize to potentially break down the plastic maybe of the diaper? And as I was asking myself this question, my son when he was 2, came running into my room, pointed to a book in my nightstand and then I like looked at this book. Anyways, it wasn't supposed to be there, but of course it was. And on page 31 it says there are certain types of fungi that can break down plastic in the book. It was like a spirit led moment.
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Jessica Zweig
By your oracle son who led you there.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes.
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Jessica Zweig
That's amazing.
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Mikki Agrawal
And so that's why the company's named after him, because it was inspired by him. And you know, it really is a project about communing with nature. It's really being in partnership with Mycelium, the oldest being in the world and they need to feel trust. Yes, it actually, it's true and it's like we can be like woo. But it's. No, it's, it's true.
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Jessica Zweig
Absolutely.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, when we talk with the indigenous people, when we, you know, we're working with, you know, we're launching on April 3rd a global prayer for our launch and we're bringing together top indigenous leaders from around the world. From the, you know, Minari, the head of the Sapur nation of the Amazon rainforest, to Lynne Twist who started the Pachamam alliance, to you know, Laura, the head of the Sami tribe of the north, to you know, Savi Ji and Pooja Swamiji from the Parma Nikita Ashram in Rishikesh, India. Like you know, like a Mayan grandmother, like a Lakota tribe leader. Like they're all coming to like bring forth this like deep prayer with Fortune 500 executives to show that there is a future where nature, humanity and innovation can come together. Like there really is that future.
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Jessica Zweig
I always ask the final question, what does it mean to you to be a co creator of the new Earth? And babe, you just described it like that's, that's the new Earth that I'm here to co create. And I think it really does come home to our home Gaia and just remembering our responsibility for her highest code, which is reciprocity and to really honor her in the work that we do, especially as business leaders. It's so profound. I'm so excited for you. I See the tears. It's amazing. I want to talk about all the things you just like the product and your story as a business owner. But I really, truly want, for the purposes of illuminating my community, to really talk about the epidemic of plastic. I think it's important for them to understand what it's really doing to our bodies, what it's doing to the planet. I see images of these landfills. I checked out, you know your website. There's something like in the year 2050, if we don't fix this, there'll be more plastic in our oceans than fish. Can you illuminate me how we've gotten here? Because we're talking about how we fix it and what we're going to do about it. But I think it's important to, to look around and take some responsibility and know the part we play.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah, like I feel like such a deep sense of like personal responsibility. Like all of us, like we have a responsibility and like, you know, when you think about nature, it's like there's just the level of giving, like selfless giving that happens. Like, like it just, it's just non stop and it's just giving and we're just taking and just taking and taking and taking and it's so extractive and so unfair and it just feels like so, it's just so unconscious.
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Jessica Zweig
Unconscious.
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Mikki Agrawal
And it's just like, you know, and it, it stems so far back. It stems to the Neolithic times when like we were first hunter gatherers. We were in deep community with nature. It was just what we needed. It was just like, you know, the culture of enoughness. It's like we kill the thing. Like we're all going to share in that meal together for the next, however long it takes. It doesn't matter. Like we're all in this together. Like we're in full communion. But like the Neolithic times is like really when like sedentary life came and the patriarchy was formed during Neolithic times. And it was sort of like, you know, this is. Men are also victims of patriarchy too. It's like we all are. And it's a few short, you know, group of people who decided like this is my land and I'm going to. And. And I need my wife and my offspring and my territory and my food. And it just became so my oriented versus like our, like nothing belongs to us. We're all stewards of this great place. We're all going to become dirt anyway. So like what are we, what are we pretending? You know, and the illusion began in like during the odolithic times. It's just so extractive. It's so painful.
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Jessica Zweig
And, like, it is painful.
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Mikki Agrawal
It's like the level of greed, you know, is so insane. And it came from that feeling of, like, deep scarcity.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
And then in business, you're like, you want to make it scarce, because then it's like, good. Because then people want, you know, want it more. And it's like, versus, like, there's so much abundance of everything. There's just, like, so many seats in the table. Like women. You don't have to claw each other for the seat of the table. Like, there's so much room here for everyone. Like, stop. Yeah. You know, anticipating this launch, and it's like pregame butterflies, you know, it's like it's been four and a half years of, like, just cultivating, and now it's, like, about to launch. I'm, like, sleepless, you know, in a lot of ways. There's, you know, a few reasons why I'm sleepless, but one of them is this, like, I wake up at the middle of the night just being like, well, people care. Like, will they care? Like, enough.
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Jessica Zweig
My audience will care.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
They're listening and they care.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, it's always. It always comes before. Before I launch anything, because it's like, you're like. Like, I don't want to get ready for battle. Like, this is not this. This time. This is like, I'm just opening my arms in, like, full surrender. Like, it's a different way. And it's like, it's so vulnerable, you know, it's so different because usually I'm just, you know, like, let's go. Energy. And this just, like, I'm here and, like, what will come is going to come. And it's like, yeah, of course. A lot of stuff coming.
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Jessica Zweig
Sure. Of course.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
You know, you're making me think, like, I really believe this is why Gaia called us here.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
You know, humanity has been so asleep. I talk a lot about the patriarchy on the show. I'm so grateful you broke it down and expressed it the way you just did, because I. I believe we've all incarnated here at this current time in humanity on purpose to find each other, because we're playing an eternal game, really. We are.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
And the way that we really shift the frequency here into more harmonic 5D consciousness, as I define it, is playing the team game.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
And it's finding each other that are here to help. We've been waiting for this moment. Mickey, your Business is right on time. These last four years that you were. You were marinating and germinating and seeding this vision that is now ready for the world to receive, because people are waking up. And it's people like you and me who've been on this train for a while who've been, like, saying, look, it's. It's here. It's. It's about to come. It's. It's already coming. We all have to link arms.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
And play this game together. And I just really hold so much trust that the world is. Is really, really, like, desperate, actually, for the medicine that you're about to bring with this business.
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Mikki Agrawal
Thanks for.
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Jessica Zweig
I truly. I truly know that to be true. It's. I was just having this conversation with another podcast guest last week that there's going to be this massive awakening in, like, 26. 2026.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
And it's going to be very disruptive and jarring for people who have not yet necessarily been initiated into this understanding of, like, what's really happening here, and for those of us that have sort of been waiting, like, front row, that this is our moment to really help humanity remember.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Because it's a slumber. It's not that people are innately forgetting, you know, and so this business feels just like a true representation and manifestation of this remembrance.
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Mikki Agrawal
I think a lot of times, like, also, like, you know, I've been, like, proverbially burned for witchcraft, too. You know, like, we've been there. Like, the gentle giants have been there. You know, I've been through, like, the dark night of the soul from, like, stuff that's just said that you're just like, whoa. Like, this is, like, the old way that's just wanting to, like, suppress the gentle next way. And. And, like. And gentle mean. I don't mean gentle. The soft power way. And, yeah, soft power isn't just gentle. It's fierce, too, when it needs to be. And yes, you know, it's disruptive. It shakes things up. And also, there's this, like, deep tenderness on the inside. I think it's so important to have. You know, I think that's what's interesting. Like, Spiritual Hustler, it has both. It's got, like, the gentle and it's got exactly soft, but it's got the power. It's got the go. It's the feminine. Masculine. Masculine. And it's really. It's beautiful to, like, own both and, like, really proudly own both. It's not like I'm not masculine. It's like, no, there is strong masculine inside of me and there's strong feminine inside of me. There's both. And the masculine allows us to move forward and take steps and take action. The feminine allows us to receive, to commune, to like soften, to take a breath, you know. And so I think like for me, you know, in this sort of pre game moment before launch, it's like there's anticipation of like all the things. It's like so much is coming up of just like beyond just will people care? But it's also like my own, like it's another coming out party for my people. You know, there's just a lot that's coming up around like stuff that's been said that has been so untrue and so painful and so hard and you don't know if like co. Like I don't, you know, it's just like there's just a lot there that. Yeah, it's just, it's just coming up.
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Jessica Zweig
I've watched your journey. It's so vulnerable to launch a dream. I, I fully relate. There's nothing quite like it. It's important to have your people and yeah, it's important to have your guides and you have built really exciting, totally disruptive businesses. It's like the thing you do and I mean I'm a consumer of your products and they've changed the conversation, they've changed the culture and you know, I want to talk about. Curious to know, were you always like this like this mission spirit led, visionary, like what were you, you always, who were you before this Mickey Agro that we all know. Were you always like, I know you have a twin sister and both of you have like these codes but what was, what was that about?
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Mikki Agrawal
I think like, you know, it's like we've been brought up, you know, happy date, half Japanese, brought me in French Montreal to like question everything and that it was, we had the permission to question everything. That there was no like one perspective. There was always like many perspectives around answering a problem or solving a thing. You know, I went to India when I was 11 years old. My parents like literally saved up and they took out a loan to take my family to India when we were 11 and it took them 10 years to pay off the loan.
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Jessica Zweig
Wow.
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Mikki Agrawal
But it was like a really, really game changing moment in my life when I was went to India and like saw kids with like elephantitis on their feet and they were dragging their these huge feet along this in like the train stations and with just themselves begging for food and I was just like, where are their parents? I kept asking my parents, like, mama, daddy, like, where are their mom and daddy? Like, where are their mom and daddy? And they're like, they're abandoned. Like, they don't, they don't have one. And so like I brought out my twin sister and I, we would like make bread and butter, like, and we pile up bread like this much and we would just go and give it to these kids for like days and days. We would just be like, we just got to feed these kids. And so it was sort of like, I think it was like the moment where we were just like, wow, like we won the lottery of life.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, like, we really, we could have picked any like ticket and we could have been there or here or no food and no family and no love and whatever.
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Jessica Zweig
I feel that.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. And I think like, it was like, if I really tune into like a transformational moment was when our parents like made that decision to take us to India. And like I said, you know, it took them 10 years to pay off that loan. It was a big deal for them to think about doing that. They took us to India for two and a half months, that took it to Japan to visit my mom's side and, and we got to see the.
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Jessica Zweig
World, see the perspective for the first.
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Mikki Agrawal
Time and just be like, wow, like gosh, like we're so lucky. When I became an entrepreneur, I was like, give back needs to be woven into the business. It's not like a marketing afterthought. It's like I couldn't create anything if it wasn't like truly like had some social impact element to it. It just wouldn't. I would have been bored within five seconds. And so it was sort of like, you know, with my restaurants it was like serving local farms and creating local jobs for like local farmers. We created New York City's first gluten free local farm table pizza restaurant in New York City, which this year will be my 20 year anniversary, which is like, it's huge. Dates me, I started when I was 5 and sinks. You know, we've helped millions of girls go back to school, you know, by providing for every pair of underwear that we sold thinks underwear we funded. So basically we, we really were inspired by the tom shoes model, you know, the buy one, give one. And like what was, you know, what, you know, Blake's intention was really beautiful. He was just like, these kids, you can't go to school if without shoes on. I'm going to like make shoes. And every pair of shoes I'm going to give a pair of shoes somebody in need. And what they didn't realize is by giving shoes away to local communities, it creates a welfare model. So those who are, like, sitting, working so hard to, like, sell shoes, now all of a sudden, a bunch of free shoes are coming. What happens to that person's business? Yeah, it goes away.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
And so they were actually, like, hurting local people who are, like, in earnest trying to make a living, and they're just doing these free shoe drops. And it wasn't serving local, so it created a welfare model. It didn't serve necessarily look, so he did. It was beautiful in thought. And it was the foundation that gave us so much inspiration to work off of.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
But then we looked at the model and we were like, huh, this model could be, you know, improved.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
And so what we did was we. We looked for a local Ugandan company in Uganda that made washable cloth pads at an affordable price. And we said, for every pair of underwear sold, we will fund the company, the afripads in Uganda that makes washable cloth pads. And then they would then create more local jobs, hire more local women to create the pads, and then it would subsidize the cost of the pads so local women could buy them at a cheaper price. And we also found that if people got free stuff, they would care for it less, but if they paid $2 a year for a bunch of pads, they would care for it more.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, and so it actually empowered every person at every level. And so it was like a deep empowerment model and not a welfare model that we created after that.
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Jessica Zweig
Incredible.
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Mikki Agrawal
Then we built from there with tushy as well.
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Jessica Zweig
I want to talk about tushy. But before we move on to tushy, I want to. I do want to double click into thanks for whatever it's worth. Because as a consumer.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
On a micro level, like, what you just expressed is so profound and so clearly the ripple effect that, you know, you've, I think, been put on this planet to. To create. But those underwear changed my life. I hated my cycle. I felt like, grossed out by it. I was like an inconvenience. It felt like cheap and commercial to use pads. And your underwear was like a total permission slip for me to embrace that part of my body. Like the free bleed. Like, I live for my things. Underwear. It's my favorite days of the month, to be honest. Like, truly, I feel right. I've never felt more connected to my feminine than when I'm on my cycle. I'm bleeding on My moon. And that really didn't come online until I bought your product. And I treasure them.
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Mikki Agrawal
Thank you for saying that. Because it's. It's like, I never take that for granted. It's like it's always such a. Like, Like, I receive that because, like, the intention of it was really not only to create a product that supported women, but that actually liberated women from the stigma and the taboo of a period which creates human life for all. And we're here, like, putting our tampons in our sleeve and slicking away pretending, and I'm like, are you like, yes. No. I have my period. Everyone go get me some thing for my water. For warm water for my belly. 100.
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Jessica Zweig
Wash my feet, cancel my meetings. And.
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Mikki Agrawal
Right. It's like, who. Who. Everyone needs to take care of me right now.
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Jessica Zweig
Correct.
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Mikki Agrawal
I'm the queen of my period. So you should say, thank you.
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Jessica Zweig
100. And it was executed so beautifully. Like, when you launched it, I remember your website and your branding and your social and just how you were so representative of the female body.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
And, like, just our womanness, it was so alluring. I mean, I was. Before I knew I was consumer. And then I followed your story as an entrepreneur because, you know, I'm one too. And I was like, this is a badass. And it did disrupt.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Change that conversation and allowed this taboo stigma to be so embraced and celebrated. And so that leads me to tushy, because talk about stigma.
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Mikki Agrawal
Well, just really quickly, the fact the word taboo.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
Stems from the Polynesian root word tapwa, which means period. Stop. So the word. Yes. The word taboo means period. Like, the most uncomfortable thing that you can possibly talk about is the thing that creates human life. It's like the. The cosmic joke of that, you know, it's. I didn't deserve to be broken. That. That's. That, you know.
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Jessica Zweig
Liberated.
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Mikki Agrawal
Liberated, yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
So I saw you come out with tushy whenever that was. I think you were a burning man. And where was that born from?
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. Well, so I'm half Japanese, half Indian, so both cultures are deep in bidet culture. Japan has, like, you walk by it. It, like, says hi to you. You know, in addition to, like, doing all the things.
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Jessica Zweig
I'm putting Japanese toilets in my new house.
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Mikki Agrawal
Well, you have to put a tushi aura. Excuse me.
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Jessica Zweig
Let's talk about it. Fine. Sorry, I'll take it back.
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Mikki Agrawal
The n. We have the competing.
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Jessica Zweig
You do?
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes. It opens it, basically. It, like, when you walk by, it opens it's warm seat, warm water, blow dries your Butt. It's nicer. Like a much nicer remote than Toto.
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Jessica Zweig
Like we haven't ordered them yet. So we're going to talk.
- [33:58]
Mikki Agrawal
Get Aura by Tushy. It's the nicest one. You have to.
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Jessica Zweig
Got it Done. Done. Great.
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Mikki Agrawal
It's.
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Jessica Zweig
Consider it done.
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Mikki Agrawal
Great. It's the. It's our. We just launched our bidet seats for the first time.
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Jessica Zweig
Okay. There you go.
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Mikki Agrawal
And we've already 6x our projections. Like people are obsessed with our seats. Yeah. And so we're competing. We're going head to head against my people in Japan. But like.
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Jessica Zweig
Right.
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Mikki Agrawal
We're American made. Like come on. There we go. You know. So yeah, we are. It's super exciting moment. But the inception story was when I was building things. It was like 100 hour weeks. It was so intense. Like we were on a real rocket ship. It was such a crazy moment. And I had developed an intense hyperthyroid condition because I was just pushing my body past its limits every single day. Like it was intense. Like I was pooping. Like a side effect of hyperthyroidism is pooping. Like up, up to. I was pooping up to eight times per day.
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Jessica Zweig
Wow.
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Mikki Agrawal
I lost like I got down to £90. It was like really scary. And it was just. My body was just in over drive. And the doctor was like, you have to take your thyroid out, do radioactive iodine therapy and take four pills a day for the rest of your life. And I was like, no, not gonna do that. I'm gonna go the functional medicine route. Dr. Mark Hyman, my doctor, my one of best friends. And so he really helped me get on a vitamin protocol. I did a detox. I did a full detox. You know, protocol. Either. I started seeing a coach to purge all my internal emotions. I started doing body work. I do to still today three to five hours every week of body work.
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Jessica Zweig
Good.
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Mikki Agrawal
And I started that practice like back in 2013 when I just. When all this went down. 2014. And it was. It was like I had to really relearn how to like serve my nervous system as a primary, you know, thing. And that led me on such a journey of like self just self discovery and so much of that because it was so scary. Like my heart. Heart palpitations was also one of the side effects. And it was like every night my twin sister be sobbing. She's like, I hope you wake up tomorrow. Like she. It was like that scary. It was like boom, boom. It was so terrifying. Like it was for two years. I've completely healed myself for Two years.
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Jessica Zweig
You experienced this for two years?
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Mikki Agrawal
It was so. It was so scary. And then, I mean, I've been. Since 2016, it's been totally. It's gone out of my. I mean, I've healed myself 100%. I got pregnant as soon as I decided the second month, trying, like, it was just when I was healed. Mark was like, you're done. You're totally like, it's gone out of your system. And we started trying in the second month, got pregnant. It was amazing. So part of the thing that happened was my ex husband, My husband, he got me a bidet for Valentine's Day.
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Jessica Zweig
Because you were pooping.
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Mikki Agrawal
Pooping so much. And I had to jump in the bat in the shower because it was so, like, raw. It was so hard. It was so hard. And. And then the bidet changed my life. It like completely restored my dignity in so many ways. And I just was like, this is crazy that every household in America does not have one of these. Like, I can't even believe it. How truly gamechanging it is. Not even just having an ailment, just for cleanliness.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
Like, like it's, it's. It's like you clean everything in your life with water, but the only part of your body, the dirtiest part of your body, you're smearing dry paper.
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Jessica Zweig
I think you said that some in some public like platform or interview or something else. I was like, she's so right. We wipe our asses with dry paper every day.
- [37:31]
Mikki Agrawal
And you sit on that and you're just smearing.
- [37:33]
Jessica Zweig
It's just like, it's really crazy.
- [37:35]
Mikki Agrawal
It's crazy. It's actually like clinical.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, like, it's. When you really think about it, it's like, wait, how have we been so deeply indoctrinated? Which is one of the reasons why I wrote my book Disruptor, is because of the fact that we are so deeply indoctrinated by so many things, including wiping our butts with trees. The thing that creates human life, like beyond our periods. Trees, literally this multi, like hundreds of millions year technology that's like, takes in carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, all these toxins in the air, converts it to oxygen as a technology for us, for our breath.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
And then we chop them down and wipe our butts with them. When you really think about it, when you say it like that, it's just like the level of disrespect. Wow. Like nature's like, I'm still giving you. I'm still, I'm still, still Serving I'm still. One day I'm gonna eat all of you alive.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
And you're gonna all be dead. Because that's what's happening. It's not going to be nature like going away, we're going to be dead. We're going instinct, you know, Unless we solve something together in community, in symbiosis, holding hands and like in full harmony. We're so short sighted, you know, and it's not us, it's the, the, it's the condition, it's the system, it's the cloak. It's again, it's why we wipe our butts. It's the same. Just the veil that we just need to lift. But anyways. And so from that, you know, till she was born, because I just was like, I need to bring the best in class. Most beautiful, most game changing bidet that's easily attachable to your toilet. That turns any toilet into bidet in less than 10 minutes. That takes no plumbing or electrical required, can turn a rental into, into a bidet. Like all the differences. And then I thought about like all the types of people. It's like those who obviously have GI issues, people have chronic UTIs, hemorrhoids, fissures, itching, bacterial vaginosis. That's millions and millions and millions and millions of people in America alone. You know, not to mention those who have disabilities, those who are elderly, like the young kids. Like my son, he's like tushy time. And he's like, butt's clean, I have to wipe his butt. And it's pristine. It's like game changing, you know. And so like the moms, you're pre pregnant, post pregnant, you have hemorrhoid, you're like so chapped down there. The number of like pregnant moms who are like, you have changed my life.
- [39:52]
Jessica Zweig
Sure.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, is like the, the use cases, it's just, and then just anyone who is going on a date, you're welcome. You know what I mean? Like, that's right. You're disgusting. So true. Like I keep telling my friend who owns Hinge, I'm like, you should pull your dating profile. Bidet user or not Bidet user and I will filter or not user like I will filter you out if you do not. Okay, use. So that was the inception story for Tushy. And to date we have helped save millions of trees, like over 10 million trees running flushed down the toilet. We have funded resoiling and reforestry projects all over South America. We've built out toilets for over 60,000 families in India, like we've really like, there is like such a deep interweaving. And what was so unreal about Tushy is that my father in India for a couple of years didn't have access to a clean toilet and he as a 75 year old man still sometimes has nightmares like looking for a toilet, clean toilet in India, like running, looking for a toilet to go to. And I didn't know that. And we have already helped 60,000 families in India gain access to clean toilets. And I found out that after we partnered and did the project, it was like this ancestral healing without even knowing it.
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Jessica Zweig
Unreal.
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Mikki Agrawal
Like, I mean like you can't make that up.
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Jessica Zweig
So can I ask you, Mickey, your work is just at another level and I know that my listeners are hearing this and they're being called, I believe to a higher order to do something. And not everybody can start the companies that you've started. And we obviously want all the moms to go buy Hero and get them in their homes and. But if you were to give the girl listening who's feeling the pain in her heart, like, wow, this world we take so much. How can I contribute, give back, how can I make an impact? What would you say to her?
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah, I mean it comes with just like becoming aware of your everyday choices, just awareness of like what am I ingesting, what type of content am I taking on, am I listening to the news? And it's just full of just. I haven't listened to the news and I'm not kidding eight years. I haven't, I haven't. I get my information from trusted sources and when something needs to get to me, it'll get to me. Otherwise, I've never read the news. I have zero interest in like the clickbait, negative dopamine hits that are same, so toxic. And I just don't, I don't watch any tv, I don't watch Netflix, you know, and it's like I would say to the girl is to like really say, like I'm as much as anyone that can really, really drive impact and drive change. Like I don't have to witness another. I can, it's beautiful. I can support, collaborate with another, but I can also go and pack lunches and give them out to the homeless. Like I, you know, with Hero, we, my son, we, we got a few friends together and their kids and we made sandwiches and made little lunch bags and we went all over Austin and handed out little lunch bags to like the homeless people in Austin so we can learn about just giving and, like, what does it look like to just be in service and just be like, these people live outside. And, like, you know, and he was like, they do. And it's just like, they're still learning. Like, it's like, you know, when I asked my son, like, what do you want to be when you grow up? He goes, a influencer. And I was like, oh, no. Use your tools. No, you don't. You know, And I just, like. And because that's what they're exposed to. It's like, YouTuber. Like, I want to be a this or that. And, like, only because, you know, for me, like, every. He's made over 300 inventions for me. Or since he's three. He's seven. He delivers inventions to me every time. Before he gets to watch, like, a. Like a little thing or, you know, before he gets a treat or something, he has to make me an invention. And now he part. He's three parts. It's an invention, a haiku, and a freestyle song that he has to just make up in real time, in the moment, and then he gets a treat. And he's amazing. Yeah. I think it's just really taking action. It's easy to be like, I want to. I want to. I want to. I have all these ideas. Like, I. I've written down all these things I want to do, but then they don't do it.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
There's just so much talking and not doing. There's so much like, well, I. This. I got really busy with. Well, this happened, and I couldn't. And this and then this and then that. And it's like, just put your shoes on and walk out the door. That is 80% of it. Once you do that, you're gonna get to the gym, you're gonna work out, put your running shoes on and walk out that door. Just make that happen. And it's like getting out of the talking and into the Putting your running shoes on and walking out the door. And I think, you know, the sedentary world that we live in, this me generation selfie, this, I me world.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
Is going to just become so empty.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes.
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Mikki Agrawal
That. And. And we're seeing it. The loneliness. A bit of 40 of Americans can't name one person to confide in America.
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Jessica Zweig
That's wild.
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Mikki Agrawal
You know, my twin sister started the Belong center, which is so amazing. And it's like really bringing Belonging center on the board of the Blanc Center. I'm so proud to really create. There's over 20 belong centers around the country. And you know, and she started Daybreaker, the early morning dance movement.
- [45:21]
Jessica Zweig
Oh, my God. I'm. I'm a big advocate.
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Mikki Agrawal
It's like the best party in the whole wide world.
- [45:25]
Jessica Zweig
Changed my life. When I went for the first time, like, it was like, what is this? It was so.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. And so, you know, really just. It's effect, like, this me thing, and it's like, I'm. And I. It's like I can't do anything for the world. Like, it's too much. I'm too overwhelmed. It's just a sign of, like, you don't want to take action. Or maybe they are overwhelmed and maybe there just needs someone to be like, it's not overwhelming. If you just put your running shoes on and take one inspired action today. Just take one inspired action a day. One by the end of a year, that's 365 inspired actions, even if they're small. Like, it's a big deal. It can make a big difference. And I think there is this. Like, this is too big. And that's why, like, when I think about storytelling, I think about the empathy telescope, which is the idea that you can tell the story of one, but you can't tell the story of many. Like, you can be like, Joey, you know, from Zimbabwe. There's no Joey names in Zimbabwe. You know, like, whatever Joey from this place, you know, is going through this experience versus, like, millions of children are starving. And you're like, I can't too much, you know, but you're like, but you can help Joey. You can help Joey. Like, you know, and so good. And I think that there's, like, you know, we're learning, like, how to tell individual stories, you know, like, really, really powerfully. Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Exciting.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. So many cool organizations that are. That are coming online now that are really here to, like, serve the collective consciousness, you know, My favorite from south by Southwest is this organization called Dollar Donation Club, started by my friend Seth. And it's basically this concept of if you can create a collective super billionaire philanthropist where everyone just gives $1 a month. Imagine if you gave $1 a month and you gave $1 a month, and you gave $1 a month, and I gave $1 a month, and everyone in the world gave just $1 a month. Everyone can do that together. You don't have to wait for Bill Gates. You don't have to wait for someone to, like, Jeff Bezos to hand out. We are bigger than, like, a whale, like a school of fish, you know? And so there's this, like, beautiful Types of companies like that, that you're like, I can give a dollar a month. Like that is something that I can do. And it's the same thing where it's like, I can make a change. Like I can put my baby in this diaper that's going to turn back into dirt. You know, like our. I know that when, you know, hero diapers is simple. You drop a hero pouch in there, our little, A little pouch of mushroom. It's a little pouch that you drop into as you're changing the baby, a little pouch into the diaper. You close the diaper, you throw in the trash. And that's it. It's one extra inspired action. This little pouch you put in the diaper, you close it, you throw in the trash, and that little. Your baby poop is going to fertilize that little pouch to grow and eat the diaper.
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Jessica Zweig
Wow.
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Mikki Agrawal
Turn it into nature. Like that's what we're.
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Jessica Zweig
You throw it in the trash. Like the dumpster picks it up.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes.
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Jessica Zweig
Puts it into the landfill.
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Mikki Agrawal
When it goes to a landfill, it'll eat the diaper first. And the big vision, it's going to start eating all the plastics and landfills too after that. So it's like a generative innovation too. And so that's what we're creating at here. I spent four and a half years working with the top mycologist, micro remediation experts, the biodegradation people, like PhDs, to really figure out. We looked at a thousand strains of fungi and we whittled down to the top. Several strains of fungi blend that can then work together to break down the plastic of the diaper. And so that's really what makes this diaper so special. The diaper itself is like unbleached cotton, unbleached wood pulp. Amazing. But it also comes with these pouches that you just. With our little fungi, sleeping fungi in them that you just drop in when you're changing the baby. It's just one inspired action. So it's kind of like all these things where it's like, I can make this one inspired action. I can make this one inspired action. I can give a dollar, I can put this pouch in the diaper. Like I could do, like these are like inspired actions that you can take that then make you. All of a sudden you are a steward of change. Like, yes, babe, you know, wow.
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Jessica Zweig
You are the inspired action. This conversation was everything and more. You have your big event coming up.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes.
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Jessica Zweig
Share that. And then where can people go? Yeah. Learn all about Hero for sure.
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Mikki Agrawal
We are officially launching Hiro on April 2nd. So Hiro diapers H I R O. And it's pronounced Hero, like hero, but it's H I R O-Diapers.com launches on April 2 and on April 3, we're doing this global prayer to bring together all the indigenous leaders and Fortune 500 CEOs to come together with people, with anyone listening, anyone who wants to join to witness what it could look like when nature, humanity and innovation can come together in a deep collective prayer. And that is the inception point of a business.
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Jessica Zweig
We'll link it. Can we link it in the show notes for everyone to go register and join?
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Mikki Agrawal
That would be amazing. And then we'll. If you go to Hero Technologies, but it will be at Hero Diapers on Instagram very soon as well.
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Jessica Zweig
All right, sister, I have just a few final quick fire questions for you that I ask every guest. Okay. Out of my own curiosity. But also they're wanting to know too. So do you have a favorite spiritual book?
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Mikki Agrawal
I'm reading a book right now called Courting the Wild Twin by Martin Shaw.
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Jessica Zweig
Okay.
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Mikki Agrawal
It needs to be read by everyone.
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Jessica Zweig
All right. Yeah, I'll make a note. Link that as well.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Do you have a favorite spiritual teacher?
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Mikki Agrawal
I am working with a couple of spiritual teachers right now, but my favorite spiritual teacher is Sad BG from the Parma Nikita Ashram in India. She is this badass woman who has given her entire life to serving the world and, you know, has been living in India, the banks, the Ganges, Ganges river since the age 25. And she just had a calling to go there. She dropped. She like, you know, was at Stanford. And she's this Jewish woman, but she literally is like the most high in command spiritual teacher working with Puja Swamiji, who's like the spiritual teacher of the. One of the biggest, most prominent ashrams in India. And she's like the one giving. She's like the feminine voice that's giving this. The sermons. And it's so amazing for Indians to see that to a woman empowered. And she's. She's incredible.
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Jessica Zweig
Of course she's your favorite. So reflective of you. Do you work with like an angel or goddess or a favorite deity or archetype of any kind?
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes, Kuan Yin Goddess. She's. She's on my altar and I pray to her and, you know, almost every day and I'm just sitting in the altar and just the goddess of creation and fertility and just impregnating the world with ideas and love and Life and. And the feminine essence. And so she's. She is my. My God.
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Jessica Zweig
Attracts.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Of tracks too.
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Mikki Agrawal
And trees.
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Jessica Zweig
Yes. I would tell you my tree story when we're done.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
Do you believe in aliens? Yes or no? I think I know the answer. Is it right, everybody? I write about Palladians in my new book and I walk through the world as a Palladian, so my audience knows that.
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Mikki Agrawal
So what's a Pleiadian?
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Jessica Zweig
Palladium is an extraterrestrial star family from the Milky Way galaxy. It's a Pleiades is a constellation 444 light years away. They were the original bringers of light on this planet. They're world creators.
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Mikki Agrawal
Amazing.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah.
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Jessica Zweig
They're here to really help humanity remember their sovereignty and their limitless potential.
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Mikki Agrawal
Beautiful.
- [52:49]
Jessica Zweig
And that it's supposed to be fun human experience.
- [52:52]
Mikki Agrawal
Amazing.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah. So full stop Palladian, but great to know that you believe in us, to believe in that final question for you. And I asked it before, but I reflected it before, but I want to ask it one last time. What does it mean to you, Mickey, to be a co creator of the New Earth Rising?
- [53:11]
Mikki Agrawal
I mean, we're just stewards. We're just a steward for. And just kind of playing the apprentice role to the universe, the, you know, God consciousness. You know, I think it's really like as soon as we take the reins and try to muscle our way into control, it just creates the most amount of suffering. And so when we realize that like let life lead and let the universe lead, let the God consciousness, nature consciousness lead, and we're just here to apprentice, to steward, to sous chef, that it actually creates so much joy and so much pleasure and so much pool of abundant pool of energy. And I'm really like, really apprenticing myself to like tapping into that kind of unlimited source of energy just from sitting in nature. Just sitting. Really. Yeah. And commuting and just being in like this receiving mode. And it's a very difficult and different thing when you're used to doing it one way, you know. And just like I've had success, you know, she'll two nine figure businesses in this. On the horse, sword in hand. And this is a, you know, it's a different way.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah. And different time.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah, it's different time and. Yeah, exactly. I think the time. It's like the right way for the right time.
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Jessica Zweig
Yeah. So let's go. You're always here. So excited for you. So proud of you, so in awe of you. And I'm honored to help this mission. Where can people find you? Mickey on social. And how can people. We're going to leave a link to Hero Technologies. Yep. We're going to leave a link to the event.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yes.
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Jessica Zweig
Anywhere else.
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Mikki Agrawal
Prayer. April 3, 2pm Central. Marker calendars.
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Jessica Zweig
Done and done.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. And my personal. Just Instagram at Mickey Agrawal. Just first name, last name.
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Jessica Zweig
Wonderful to finally put a. A real face.
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Mikki Agrawal
Yeah. Let's be friends.
- [54:57]
Jessica Zweig
It's amazing.