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Also, sorry if we blow your eardrums this episode. I guess the place to start is maybe like a little AA meeting. How are we feeling? Like I'm sa and I'm initially started.
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Initially starting to say okay. But even though I was never Team Jeremiah, I still can't forget that neck grab scene.
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I feel like it was a defining moment in me and Natasha's friendship.
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It's actually crazy. We watched it a couple times, four or five times.
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When Haley's comment came on, he's like, actually gagged.
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That was not okay.
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We went like this.
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I. I think, like levitating my soul for my body.
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Never in my life wanted to punch my TV screen. Where Winder is like, you know she's my family, right?
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Yes.
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You get that.
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I'm like, I'm literally done with you. No, I'm actually done with you.
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We're like 14 year olds and, like, just casually learning a dance.
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But they're not.
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She's getting married in two days and you're learning dance routine.
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Girl, grow up.
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Figure out who you want to marry first. There was a moment that I did adore Belly. Like, I didn't hate her like this.
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I'll be on a stretcher.
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Let me post this thought. If you've been dating someone for four years and then you break off your engagement and you go be with their brother, is their relationship with the brothers anymore? That's bonkers.
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John, here's something crazy. Hello, Lemon Drops.
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Welcome back to another episode of the Squeeze.
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This one is a very special one. Or it might just be special for the four of us, I don't know. But we are going to be discussing the highly acclaimed number one top show on prime, our favorite show, and probably.
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Yours at home as well.
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The Summer I Turn Pretty. I have my three experts with me today, AKA my friends that we just scream at the TV with together. I have Keaton over here, and then we have Natasha, who you guys have seen before and Miss Sheila. We are going to be getting into it today with all of the things that are Summer I Turned Pretty start to end everything in between.
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We're ready.
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We're also going to go over some, like, relationship stuff questions. A lot of you send in, like, advice for relationships. So if you haven't watched the Summer I Turn Pretty, just stick around because there's some good stuff for you at the end. Okay? Hi, guys. I'm so excited.
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Same.
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Get comfy. Okay. Also, sorry if we blow your eardrums this episode. We're gonna keep it together. I think probably a good place. Where do we. Where do we want to start? Probably, I guess the place to start is maybe like. Like a little AA meeting. Like, how are we feeling? Like, I'm tay and I'm initially started.
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Maybe at the beginning.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Yeah. Natasha has some things she wants to air out.
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Yeah, no, that's gonna be aired out, like, later.
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Okay, then I guess a good place to start is. I mean, we've been. You guys have seen my content. We've been watching the show together for a very long time. So this is special that we all get to talk about it, because we haven't all been together this season.
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My bad.
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Um, I've been a little busy and haven't been around, so we have been texting and sending all of the content in all of our group chats across all of the social medias. Um, and we're just, like, ready to, I think, to, like, dive into it.
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Yeah.
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Where do we want to start? I think maybe. Maybe like a fun moment. No, I think I want to get into the. I think I want to get into the team thing. Yeah.
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Team.
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Where.
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Where are we all at?
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Yeah.
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Where were we? Where did we get here?
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Yes. Yes.
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How has the journey been?
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Yes. Let's start with our teams, because our ladies in red and pink, you can guess from the red what Team Kiki is. They were the OG Conrad's.
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That's our man.
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Yeah.
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I've been obsessed with Conrad since season.
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One, since the moment he set foot onto the scene, into the screen. That was our man.
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Like, with the glasses. Like, I'm. I'm. I've been into it. Like, that's just what had to happen.
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Mr. Brooding, misunderstood. I got him from the start. We got him from the start.
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Yeah. I think I'm just naturally a sucker for, like, a moody, like, not. He's misunderstood a little bit. Like, I'm just a sucker for that, and I love it.
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So I agree.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Now, to be fair, I liked Conrad in season one, but season two, he really gave me no choice, and I had to switch to team Jeremiah because at the time, I felt like he was the best I option for Belly, and now I think neither of them are because she's psychotic. But I am back on team Conrad. If I had to. I'm just solely team Conrad. I'm not team Conrad. Belly and Conrad. Wait, what did I say?
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You just love Conrad.
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You're just team Conrad.
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Yeah.
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She's team Nobody else. Team Conrad. She's literally blacked Out.
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Actually, I'm not Team Conrad and Belly. I'm just Team Conrad.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Like, you're Team Conrad back to college.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I. This season, I definitely switch. I feel. I feel like same as you towards, like, last season, the switch was happening, but I kind of talked about this last episode and, like, with you guys a little bit, because, like. Like, in words of, like, Twilight, I was like Team Edward. And so I was a little surprised I wasn't Team Edward. But I feel like you can't equate Team Jacob to Jair because Jacob doesn't, like, cheat in all of this stuff.
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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Moody.
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Yeah. They're very different. I also feel like last season, the first season, we just got to know Conrad so well, and I'm, like, the type of person, like, if I become obsessed with someone in the beginning, like, it's. I can't. Like, I can't move past that, you know, I just can't. And I think that that's maybe sometimes why people do the comparisons, too, is because, like, that's how it is in the movies.
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So I know.
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I feel like people are like, oh, that was the initial one, and they move. And then it's like, I know I.
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Need to, like, reread the last book because I just feel like they have not made Jeremiah likable at all.
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But that's my point is I feel like last season, not that they ever made Conrad as unlikable as they're making Jared this season, but I do think that he was not the kindest. So it's like, you want to root for someone that's nice to belly, you know? And I think that's why a lot of people were like, no, we are. Team Jeremiah is a split.
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Yeah.
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And now this season, like, I don't know one person that is rooting for him.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's just so unlikable.
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It reminds me a little bit of. Not to steer us off topic, but when we read the book, it ends with us. And then watch the movie, it was easy to root for, like, Ryle, for example, like, in the book. But then in the movie, you're like, but why would I spend time, like, rooting for him? And I feel like that's a similar situation where I feel like if I read the books, I would probably like Jeremiah more.
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Yeah.
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And just watching the show alone and having no context to the books, I'm like, no, that is not my man.
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Yeah.
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I think you just lose some of the Context in shows and like, movies like that. So that's kind of what's happened with Jer. And we had a time jump. So it's like we saw Belly and Conrad, like, when they were little. And like, we've gotten so many flashbacks this season.
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Yeah.
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Of them two that are literally like, feeding me. And I'm like, we, like, we don't get those moments with Jer and Belly, like, when they were younger. So of course it's not giving us the same feelings because it's like we don't even see. See them like, developing anything and then their entire history dating. We didn't see. We skipped to the part when he cheated.
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Like, that's so true. You know, we did miss, like, years of their. Yeah.
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She just then got engaged immediately after, like, within an episode.
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Oh, yeah. I didn't say a word when that happened. I was literally just like, staring at my tv. Just, like, annoyed.
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I could not comprehend.
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We were.
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We watched that together and I genuinely was like, what is going on? Watching Michela is like, honestly, the funniest thing. You know what I'm talking about? She, like, the, like, it will not even be like, like, regard, like, relating to the plot, but, like, some of.
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The commentary that she makes is just honestly so funny.
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Like, I just remember, like, I. I remember that more than half the things.
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I'm like screaming at the TV about like Conrad and belly kissing or whatever, like, the Sheila commentary actually kills me.
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But it's pretty good stuff. I actually think I black out while I watch. Like, it is my internal monologue just becomes external. It's pretty bizarre.
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Yeah. But watching with. Watching with a group of people is the best. But it was really fun last season because we were divided. Yeah. So it was like, interesting because even that scene in last season where it's like, Conrad, he's at the vending machine, we're sobbing, and they're like, yeah, that's so true. And I'm like, excuse me.
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Okay. But I will say, even though I was never Team Jeremiah, I still can't forget that neck grab scene for some reason.
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No, that's what I'm saying.
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No, like, that.
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That definitely.
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I feel like it was a defining moment in me and Natasha's friendship.
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The nightcraw.
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Yes, Literally.
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Natasha talks about it to this day.
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Yes.
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Unfortunately.
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Crazy. It's actually crazy.
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We watched it a couple times.
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I think they replayed it like four or five times. And Keaton and I were literally there bashing our heads on to each other.
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Like, in shock at what we're seeing.
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I have to re watch that.
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I know that reaction video.
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The reaction video was so good, Tay. I had a friend who had never seen the summer I turned pretty and she came over to watch the episode, and Natasha's like, We're, like, filling her head. I'm like, okay, so it's two brothers. I'm giving her the whole storyline. Natasha's like. And there's this net grab scene, and I'll show it to you. I'll show it to you. And I'm like, the way that's literally.
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Not printed in my brain, that's like.
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Literally, she hears Summer, I turn pretty. It's literally just this.
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No, literally.
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Hello.
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Like, she's gonna be in a retirement.
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Storm when she's older. She's gonna grab.
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So aggressive. I can't.
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Well, now we know now. Now we're all on the same page.
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That's fine.
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Yeah, we are.
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I feel like I. I feel like, really after episode five, I was like. Well, I was really, like. I knew I was Tim Conrad now. Like, yeah, after, like, hearing him, I was really.
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You know, also, I think there's so many. Not new characters, but there's just so many new relationships and other things to comment on that. Half the time for me, it's like, not even about Jer or Conrad. I'm, like, thinking about Taylor or Steven or the parents. Like, yeah, stuff like that. That my focus goes to different places.
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Yeah, I know. I feel like that's maybe why there was, like, a lot of, like, not backlash, but why people were, like, upset the first, like, a few episodes. Because there. This was the first season where there really is, like, so many other storylines that are, like, actually evolving and characters are, like, changing and growing because. Yeah, I feel like.
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Which I enjoy more because it's less Jer on the screen.
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Yeah.
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Anything that can save us.
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Anything to get that man's off.
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I know. I feel. I just, like. I wish that. I wish that Natasha breaks my microphone, so. Sorry. I wish that. I just wish they would have written him a little better this season. I think it's. I think it's. Well, I don't.
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Okay, don't. I mean, you can cut this. I think it's bad writing that they didn't, because.
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No.
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Yeah, because in the show, like, you should be able to write it where, like, you do still have the back and forth between people, but nobody likes him. So I'm like, yeah, it's not fun. You know what I mean? To not, like, have a little bit of back and forth.
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Yeah. That's, I think, the biggest thing that I think it is. It's just. I wish they would have just written him a little better in the moments, because, like, then you're still, like, no one's wanting them together.
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Or. Here's the thing. You're rooting for love. You're not rooting for Conrad, because, like, Jeremiah is this awful person. Because that's, like, up until this point, they both have been great options. Like, they're. They're different in their own ways. And you're like, oh, I would really love to see her with him, or vice versa. But now it's like, nobody likes this character. That's, like, the main reason that all these people are switching over. Not the main reason, but a big reason. If you were Team Jeremiah, then now you're like, okay, what is this?
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Like, really impressed with Gavin's acting? Because I do not associate him with Jeremiah. And my hatred for Jeremiah is like, this is actually really good acting. Because I don't feel like they're anything alike. Yeah, per se. But then I cannot stand, like, I actually cannot stand Jeremiah's character one bit, to the point where I'm like, what is. When does this turn? Because, like, I don't know. Okay. If she does end up with Conrad, I don't really know where, like, the audience is still pissed. I'm still.
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I'm struggling. I think the reason I'm, like, struggling or why it's so stressful is because to me, whenever I've watched other, like, shows where it's, like, a triangle type situation, there is always that, like, from the, like, girl specifically, I'm lacking, like, Belly being interested back in Conrad, like, the whole season. I feel like I'm not, like, you know she is because you know her, but you don't know she is from, like, what she's saying in her inner monologue or how she's acting like, you are, like, oh, I know for a fact she would rather be with Conrad. But nothing she has said or done has indicated that. Up until the last episode when she, like, you know, the bathtub scene, that was the first indication. And even then, it's like, right after that, it's like, oh, Jerusalem, I'm go sit on his lap and make out with him. Like, no, Like, I. I need some, like, tension of her really pulling back from Jer. And that's what I'm lacking. That's, like, what's bothering me. I'm like, if you have these feelings, which, like, we know she does.
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Yeah.
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Why are you still like this. I don't know.
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Like, yeah.
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This close with Jer. I feel like there needs to have been, like, more of a gradual.
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You just slept with Jer and then you literally go. And you're having flashbacks of Conrad.
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Yeah.
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Having a whole panic attack in the mirror.
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What do you mean?
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Yeah, but also, it's like.
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Is the moment where she's hesitant to kiss him or she says she's like, gotta go get ready. Is that her pulling back from here?
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Yes, but I'm saying that should have been happening. Honestly, ear, like, earlier in the season. I just wish, like, even with like, all of the, like the peach scene and all of that, I wish she would have, like.
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I wonder more. I wonder if we're going to get a belly dialogue flashback.
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I need that.
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I need it bad.
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I need that. Like, because all of the scenes that we had in the most recent episode, episode seven, the We Can't Be Friends montage. I was.
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I can't. I literally was crying because I was.
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Just like, this is what I've been waiting for. Like, I want to see her being like, oh, my God. God, like, what have I done? And this is like, the first time we saw that. And I was eating it up. Like, I was like, yes, like, literally, come back to yourself. And then she, like, ruined my life. But whatever. But, like, that's I've been waiting for.
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When she says, like, the only thing I ever pictured was Conrad when it comes to her wedding, I'm like, girl, is that not enough to be like, hey, let's call this off.
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Hey, let's take this pebble off your finger and let's. Let's move on.
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Yes. Bye. Bye. That's good.
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Okay, let's get into some of our favorites and least favorites. I think favorite moment so far from this season. I think I'll just go on the note that we were talking about.
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I need to pull. I need to pull my notes.
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My favorite moment is literally.
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I don't know what scene this was.
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But there was a bald man lifting weights.
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I'm sorry, Natasha, why?
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Why? There was a bald man lifting weights and he literally was just bald. But she was like, get that. She's like that old man's gotta get out of here. He was not old. He literally was just bald.
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What are you talking about? When the parent. When Laura was at the conference. Yeah. And they were in the gym.
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He's lifting weights in the background. How do you remember that? Because that's the commentary that like sticks with me.
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It's so funny.
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No, he really was so random. I forgot about random.
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But now that you're saying that he.
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Was really, really stuck with me for a moment.
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Like the bald man net grab love the neck. Like that's not this season.
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Wait, are we talking about from this Season.
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Yeah. Favorite moment from the season. Okay. Mine. Mine is the flashback, I think. I mean, there was. I feel like I also liked the bathtub thing, but I was not anticipating the flashback popping up, and she, like, starts dancing and that, like, flash. And I literally, like, audibly gasped. Like, it took. I was like, wait.
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Can I also say something? Isn't it so weird when I watch the flashback, they look so different, but in my head, like, they've looked the same the whole time. Like, Conrad looks so. His hair was so different, even though it was, like, kind of the same. But in my head, he's always like, in season three, I'm like, that's how he's looked the whole time. But then when you go back and see what it was in season one, you're like, whoa, they looked so different.
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Yeah.
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Anyways, something I noticed.
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Yeah. I think. I think that whole. With the music and, like, everything was just way too much for me.
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No, mine was definitely Conrad finally being vulnerable.
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Yeah.
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And saying how he feels to Belly, and then I wish I could just stop it there. And the episode ends because Belly opens her mouth, and then it all goes downhill for me. But up until, like, right when he gets up and he finally acknowledges, like, why are you defending him? And he speaks up for once, I'm like, look at all that therapy paying off. Look at that.
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I think all of my moments are all of the flashbacks as kids. Like, the flashback with the bike. Like, all of these moments that, like, we never got to see with Comrade and Belly when they were younger, which have kind of, like, made her who she is. Like, when he was like, meet me here. And then she went and did, like, you know, all of the little moments, like, those to me, are, like, so, so sweet. And I don't know why. I, like, just love. I just love those.
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Yeah.
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Just adds to the lore. I think it's sweet.
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And it really does remind you that he has looked out for her from the beginning, and that's why rewatching season one has been so frustrating to me. When Jer is like, oh, I finally see her in this different light, and I'm like, but Conrad's always seen her.
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Yeah, he's always.
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And when he says it's always, it's been always.
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And I'm like, no. When he points to his heart, I. You guys know when he said in here. Yes, I'm gonna. I'm literally gonna faint. Like, I almost fainted, you guys.
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I literally.
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Sick to my stomach. I almost. I literally almost died.
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Yeah.
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I'm not okay. I'm actually still thinking about it.
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Yeah.
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I think I'm gonna start blushing.
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Yeah. My.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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That wasn't okay. Mine are definitely the kids moments. I just like that. I just love. I love the lore. I know the little. Give me little crumbs.
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Yeah. Yeah, that's good. Do you have anything else to add to that question?
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No, I'm.
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I like all those.
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I think my favorite part, the one that I was, like, actually gagged, was when he goes to hug her, and then you hear his, like, what have I done? That actually is, like, imprinted in my brain. Like, I hear it ringing. And the song behind, like, Haley's comment. I just. Yeah, you already know.
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I already know. I literally was gonna make you guys count down when we talk about our favorite song, because when Haley's comet came on.
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No, that was not okay.
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We went like this.
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I think, like, lesser. My body, my soul.
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Like this. Oh, my God, I'm gonna crash out.
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So. Yeah.
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No, that was crazy.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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The.
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The Yusuf song. We'll get into. We'll get into. I mean. Okay, let's just get into it. Favorite song so far.
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Mine is Haley's comment.
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Yeah, mine is Haley's comment, for sure.
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Can we go back to season one? Because I still can't forget the first moment that I actually was like, no.
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I'm obsessed with him. Was.
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I have it in my notes. It's the Taylor Swift one when he stands up at the dead ball and he walks over and it's. That's the way I loved you.
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Or I listened to that on the way he ate.
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I mean, genuinely. I think I rewatched that episode, like, six times because of that one moment. And I. I. That is, like, my favorite moment in the entire show, I think.
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I think that's what makes the show, like, that's just, like, another layer of why we love it so much, is because I feel like it will also, obviously, like, the Taylor Swift aspect of it all, like, it just flows so nicely. But all of the songs, like, all the songs are. It just, like, tells the story, like, so well. And I've been, like, loving the use of, like, the songs over again. Has been, like, really crazy for me. And, yeah, the side by sides of, like, when they first played to.
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It's also because it's meaningful. Like, it's not just, like, a sound. Like, it's very intentional. It's very meaningful. And I love when shows do that. Like, when I heard Haley's comment, I wasn't like, oh, my gosh, just Like a sad song. It's like, no, I know this song. I know these lyrics. Like, this is this exact moment, and it, like, makes sense, and it's not.
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Even just matching the mood of the scene. It's like the lyrics also magic. Everything is so intentional and genius. Like, I just love it.
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I. I, like, still think about. I don't know what song was playing, but when Conrad leaves and leaves the crossword puzzle and the only word was still, and I'm like, that is brilliant.
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Yeah.
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What a touch.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Everything. I. I mean, all of the music is amazing. I loved you're Losing Me.
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I think mine would be Llamal, because I just. I love that song. Yeah. So much.
C
Oh. When that came on, I was like, are they trying to kill me? Yeah, they truly.
B
I also love False God. But, like, I also like that the bathtub scene with that song gave the song, like, a different. Like, it made me look at the song so differently.
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I agree. Because I've never listened to it in that light where it's more of, like, a yearning. I've always listened to it. I don't know. Just in a different way.
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Yeah, I. I feel like that scene, it made it, like, more of, like, an intimate song. And before, I just. I don't know what I just, like, would sing. And it's lover, so it's like, you know. Yeah. Like, happy in love. But that was like. I, like, really, like, felt like it was really between, like, two people.
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False God is the one that really, like, solidified the parallels between.
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Yeah.
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Once we get into it, the entire research project I did last night.
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Yeah, let's get into it. Parallels. There are. There's a lot of parallels. Like, literally so many. My entire TikTok page is literally just parallels. What. What do you guys think are, like, some of your, like, biggest ones?
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I mean, you can go.
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I think Noah Calhoun and Conrad Fisher are, like. It's the biggest parallel from the Notebook, which, like, I kind of hate because I just think Belly doesn't deserve that. But I think that is the biggest parallel. Like, him fixing up the house and even the scene with them, like, at the dining room table and talking about life. And then, you know, she's obviously engaged and just little things like that, like his yearning for her and, like, always doing these things for her, but she's with someone else.
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Yeah.
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It's such a good one.
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I love, like, this. I love parallels because I love when, like, a writer or, like, any type of movie gives you, like, the smallest crop. Like, it's It'll be a very small parallel, but it makes sense. Like, I loved the conversation that she had with Jer in the last episode where she was like, oh, we'll meet at the pool.
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And. And.
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Or he said, we'll meet at the pool, and she said, we'll meet at the beach. And it's like, that parallel is so significant. Like, it's so small, but it is significant because it's like, belly is the beach. Like, that. Like, her and Conrad are always on the beach. Like, that's where their scenes take place. And Jer, like, not really understanding her, or I honestly think just, like, really.
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Even knowing her, where the first little spark of their, like, kindling. Because wasn't the. Like, did it happen at the pool?
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Yeah, it did.
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Yeah.
C
So it's like, for him to pick the pool and her to pick the beach. It's like, that's such a small little thing. But, like, I loved that because I'm like, the second she said beach, I was like, oh, Like, I know Conrad's gonna be there. Because it's like, yeah, I've just. I know that from previous seasons. And I love when, like, writers and, like, people do that because it just gives you that added, like, yeah, yeah. Little thing. I thought that was so cool.
B
And when she said, like, when she was in the bathroom with Taylor and she was like, I've only ever pictured Conrad. And then later on, Conrad's like, it should be like, what you pictured.
C
Like, he used the word pictured.
B
And it's like, you're seeing. Yeah, that. Literally, that moment.
A
No, my. I'm still stuck on this, like, parallel between Apollo and Hermes, which I don't know if you guys had a chance to, like, dive into any of that. But then once you get into understanding the Greek mythology of it all, it's like, Apollo is the sun. And in season one, when Laurel is, like, two belly, Conrad is the sun. And when the sun comes out, all the stars go away. I'm like, this is too much. And then Susanna, like, paints Jeremiah as a Greek God. And I think it's crazy when you actually go back and look at all of these little moments. And Hermes, I believe, I don't know it super well, but he is associated with, like, trickery and, like, stealing and things like that, which I'm like, it's, like, interesting that he's kind of taking his brother's girl a little bit. And then it's like, all this back and forth. It's just a fascinating parallel. If Jenny Han actually did that on Purpose.
C
I know. And sometimes I don't know if people do that intentionally, but I love it. And I was also listening to this love on the way here because that's been my go to. I will not stop listening to this love. And just, like, literally picturing, like, them in Paris, like, frolicking. Like, this love came back. But in the song, it says, like, when you touch me, I turn golden or whatever. And I'm like, that's literally them.
B
Them.
C
Like, that is them.
B
Yeah, yeah. And yeah. With, like, the sun. Well, this is what I'm curious about, because it's always, like, they always have the golden sun on them during, like, their moments. I will say in the. In the trailer, there's a moment, it's like Belly's parents stand up, and it's Belly, like, turning the corner to, like, at the rehearsal or something, and she's lit golden. So I'm like, is this, like, a dream that she's having that I think it's a dream? Because she's lit like that? So I'm like, yeah, are we.
D
Maybe I'm wrong. I feel like it's a dream.
C
Yeah. I mean, we can get into that, too. We want to predict, but, like, I don't. I don't think anyone's getting married.
B
No, I don't think anyone's getting married.
A
Unless it's Laurel.
C
I told you my theory. I think it's Laurel.
B
Yeah.
C
I think they're gonna remember that and they're getting remarried, and, like, someone has to do it. Like, they've already paid for this. Like.
D
Yeah, exactly.
C
That's what I'm thinking. Like, maybe it's, like, floral. And she was, like, so anti the wedding. And then she's like, yes, it's me. Like, I could see happening. But I don't think any. I don't think any of them are getting married.
B
Yeah.
A
If it's Kaylee and the dad, I will put my foot through the screen.
D
No chance.
A
Then I put my foot through the screen.
C
I wouldn't let that happen, Jenny. Han would hear from me today. I don't know if I can say that it's just a joke.
A
The lawyers actually reach out.
B
To. No, Jenny knows.
A
Jenny knows.
B
Oh, wait.
C
Also, last thing. Did you notice in the last episode when she knocked on the wall and he didn't knock back?
B
I was like, what season is this?
C
Is everything. It's last season. Yeah, Season two.
B
They.
C
It shows the scenes when they're, like, knocking back into each other so many things. And the way he didn't Answer.
B
Also, this is what makes me think that they really do end up together. Even just more so than, like, what the book says. Because in the book, I think it's Taylor. Taylor tells Belly that it was, like, her that got her mom to go in the show. She says no, and she finds out in the moment it was Conrad. She doesn't find that out until later in the book. There's that moment there was. Shoot. I think there was like, there's a. Oh, in the book, she goes to bed with Jer. When she comes back, she gets into bed with him after the whole Conrad thing. I didn't know that.
C
Yeah, I like that. Give us some distance.
A
Yes.
C
Give me some distance. You already done slept with the man. I don't know what the hell is going on. I know.
B
I really feel like this. This last episode, we got to see a lot of, like, even, like, things with Jer. Like, Jer was being so passive aggressive with, like, the things he was saying, but you could start to see, like, him, like, the way he would, like, look back. But, like, also you see Belly, like, you see everyone's, like, inner conflict, really. Well, I feel like this episode, because everyone's finally, like, together. Go ahead.
D
I literally never in my life wanted to punch my TV screen where Winder is like, you know she's my family, right?
A
Yes. You get that.
D
I'm like, I'm literally done with you. No, I'm actually done with you. I'm sick.
C
No, Natasha, you don't have.
D
No, I literally was in bed. I said sat up, and I'm like, no.
C
I honestly was just very confused. Like, I was just like, what are we doing? I actually wrote that for cringiest moments. I literally was like, this is the weirdest shit you can. I guess on here, I was like, this is the weirdest shit I've actually ever seen in my life.
A
And I think it's because he got super insecure because when he was walking into the bar, he turns around and he sees that Conrad and Belly are having a moment.
B
Yeah.
A
And I'm like, every time there has been an opportunity for Belly and Conrad to gravitate towards each other. Like, they naturally do. You have to ruin it.
B
Yeah.
A
And he always does. And I'm like, here you go again, just being Jeremiah.
D
Go be with your chocolate cake, bro. Literally, that part, oh, my gosh, we're family now.
C
It's like, okay, I'm going to take care of her.
B
I'm like, no, you know, you're not.
D
You.
C
You're literally not you're actually. Actually, you're just not taking care of her.
B
Yeah, that. Yeah, that's been the biggest thing that has, like, been proven also the fact that he's going to take this job with his dad and hasn't told Bella yet and is waiting till after they get married. And they're gonna get married. She already said no to Paris and he's gonna go. They're not gonna.
A
It's so selfish.
D
He's so selfish.
A
It's also like, I don't know if it's Belly that he adores or if it's the fact that he doesn't want Conrad to be better than him.
D
I think it's Conrad.
C
It's because of Conrad. That's like, the whole thing. It's like he just wants to be like, she picked me and I have what you want. Because Conrad has always been better than him in every aspect, and he's always.
B
Been compared to that in their conversation, too. And when Jer's telling him about, like, he's taken the job and Conrad's like, no, you don't need him. Like, you're like, you're better than that. You can go do something better. And he's, like, pissed about it. Yeah.
C
Because he's like, I thought this was, like, cool. And, like, I thought, like, I had a, like, kind of like a one up, ill leg up on you. And like, I don't. Because you don't even think it's cool. And now I'm just like, yeah.
B
The other parallel is. Is the whole flashback to when Bella and Conrad are on the phone and she's like, I don't think my mom would care if my dad.
A
If this part really, like, agitated.
D
But I know about this because I saw it on Tick Tock.
B
Yeah. So, yeah. The part obviously in last season when Billy and Conrad are talking on the phone, she's like, I don't think my mom would care if my dad cheated on her because that's just, like, not the love they have. Laurel talks about how it was, like, steady, but their marriage was, like, never exciting, and that's why they got divorced. And so now fast forward to Belly finds herself in the same scenario as her mom. She literally doesn't care that essentially they literally got engaged.
C
Yeah.
A
Literally minutes after.
B
Yeah. So I. That I think that parallel is, like, it's so brilliant.
A
I think it's also, like, super intentional because I would have never remembered that. I wouldn't have either. And the minute that Conrad's like, what are. Who are you? Like, why are you taking this? Why are you defending him? Is everything.
B
Yeah.
A
Chef's kiss.
B
Especially, like, after, like, you know, Adam cheating on Susanna and, like, them talking about like, that, too. Like, they both know how they stand on cheating because of, like, what's happened and what they know.
C
Yeah.
B
Okay.
A
Also, I never so much just looked at another girl while I was with you. Oh, killed me.
C
You guys, I can't.
B
I actually can't.
C
I can't even think about it. That scene literally made me physically nauseous.
B
I watched it, like, immediately after.
A
No, I. Guys, I was texting in this group chat, begging and pleading on my hands and knees for people to lock in and watch. I was rocking back and forth all morning. I drove around listening to Taylor Swift nonstop. I called Keaton in the morning. I said, you tell me when you're clicking play. I will pull up. And she was like, I have an event to go to.
B
I can't.
A
I was like, no, Keaton, please, somebody please watch this with me. Because I had no one. I sat there scrolling on TikTok and finding my people because I was losing my mind.
B
Yeah.
C
Yeah. If you haven't clocked it, Sheila should be in a straight jacket. No, clearly, I'm like, please, somebody, please help.
B
Literally rocking.
A
Yeah.
B
Cringiest moments. Let's. Let's get into.
A
God, what was that dance in front of Denise and then them all doing the grind on me.
B
Both the girls and the guys dancing.
D
I was gonna say both were. I can't.
A
L. So Belly and Taylor and the girls kind of ate. Like, that was kind of. They kind of, like, they did not know they're starving.
C
What do you mean?
A
Telling you right now, if you look.
C
At it, okay, they are famous.
A
If they were, like, 14 year olds and, like, just casually learning a dance, it was.
C
But they're not. But they're not.
D
She's getting married in two days, and you're learning a dance routine.
C
Girl, grow up.
A
I figure out who you want to marry first.
C
But I'm saying, like, that was not cute. That was not giving. That was giving. Terrible. That was not. Okay.
D
No, it was not giving.
A
Listen, I'm just trying to.
D
We only have so many minutes in an episode. Why was 10 or 5 spent doing that? You know what I mean?
B
Yeah, yeah.
D
Did they cut another scene and, like, need something filled?
A
Like, I just felt, like, filler, though, which is weird. Like, the first couple episodes in the season just felt slow. I was like, what am I watching?
D
There's also 11 episodes versus, like, eight, right?
B
Well, yes.
A
Is Next week, the finale.
C
No, no, no, no, no. We have four more episodes.
B
No, we haven't. We're watching the finale together. Yes.
C
Thank you.
B
I literally have it in my calendar.
A
I have chills all over my arms right now thinking that that was the end.
B
Is there any more cringe moments before we get into this? Yeah, I just share all this screenshot. It's like, anytime Jeremiah's on the screen.
C
One of mine, that still kind of makes me like, oh, I hate this. This is so cringy. The scene when Belly goes, like, I know, and tells them we're getting married, it still, to this day, it sends shivers down my spine. I mean, that was just, to me, so cringy with Conrad sitting there, the whole family then collectively just being like, what?
D
What?
A
Like, audacity to do that in front of Conrad without giving him fair warning. Like, that's wild. I also will say, I know the whole Internet already ripped him to shreds, but the cake thing and the cacao and the, like, Conrad was willing to actually compromise and find a solution, and somehow Jeremiah still can't.
C
But can I say that is, like.
D
The writing that makes me so mad is like, I wish that it was, like, real life problems. Like, if they dove more into, like, work or him not communicating or someone that would. Something that would make him be, like, o, he's not the best partner. But, like, the chocolate cake is so crazy. Like, it's just so out there to be that concerned about it. And it's like, you're really just trying.
B
To put a wedge.
D
But I wish it was more realistic. You know what I mean?
B
That's why I'm, like, excited for what's to come. I mean, also just, like, knowing Gavin, I'm excited for him to, like, actually be able to, like, have, like, an important moment. Like, you know, when he, like, confronts Conrad and, like, when they're having that. Not just, like, him drunk or acting like a baby, like, I'm excited for that one as, like, Gavin's friend, but also, like, because, like, there. There needs to be some. There has to be back and forth pull. Like, there needs to.
C
Well, if they're supposed to be more mature now and they're growing up, it's like, we need to have more mature conversations. That's why I was like, finally when Conrad's speaking, like, thank you. Let's have some communication. But like, in the trailer, that scene of Conrad and Jer, like, I need that.
D
Oh, the punching one.
C
The punching. I need that. Like, I need the. It's Just. I don't like that tiptoeing around. Like, let's just. Let's just get it out there.
B
Yeah.
C
Right now I need that confrontation.
D
Like, I think it's so weird to me to. Being that there was a time jump. Why hasn't that already been discussed? Do you know what I mean? Because, like, there. I don't know. I know. Obviously, I want to see it, but I think, like, oh, you've been with this person for four years. Like, you would think that they would have kind of, like, maybe already talked about it, but it's so, like, like, passive right now. You know what I mean?
B
Yeah. I feel like I could have had, like, more, like, ironically, more Belly and Jer in the first few episodes of seeing, like, flashbacks of the relationships.
A
Because we really. Yeah. What was that?
B
I'm hoping that, like, circles back something with her.
A
Something has to.
C
No, I literally wrote down, like, get Taylor's mom off of.
D
Wait, why is she so.
B
Why is she everywhere?
D
I'm sorry. So confused.
A
She has to play some significant role that.
B
Like this.
C
I'm sure she does.
B
Stephen and Taylor get back together. But to give her that much time, I'm like.
C
I mean, I'm very confused. Like, I'm. It's not.
D
So why are all the parents, like, kind of crazy? Like, there's not one normal parent on the show.
A
I feel like I kind of do feel for Laurel. I think I'd be exactly like her if I lost my best friend and my daughter was, like, getting engaged to the guy that she doesn't love. And I knew it deep down.
B
Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Also, Johnny, here's something crazy. The guy who plays Belly's dad.
E
What's his name? Show John.
C
Yeah. I don't know.
E
He's the Maytag man.
C
Wait, what's Maytag?
B
The company. The washer and dryer.
C
No, I'm just.
B
I ruined the show for you.
A
No, I only never.
B
What? Ruined it for me. And please look up me. Tag man.
A
I'm so weak.
B
Taylor ruined it for me, so. Okay.
C
Oh, my God.
B
You know, he is.
C
He has a. He has a turkey in his leg.
B
No, you are those commercials.
A
Yes, I do.
B
Yeah.
C
I would have never put that together.
B
He's watching it. He goes, that guy looks familiar. He looks it up. He was like, I knew it. He's the Maytag man. I was like, what are you talking about?
C
In what world would I ever be like, that's the main.
B
Yeah.
A
You're like, I knew it was Belly's father. I recognized you.
C
Insane lore.
A
I am thinking I forgot about this. This is actually one of the cringiest things that ever happened was the second that Jeremiah sitting in front of Laurel with Belly and he's like, you know you've always wanted to have me as a son in law. Actually. Shut up.
C
Yeah.
A
Like, what was that? Yeah, she blacked out.
B
Yeah, that was fun.
D
My inner monologue is like going crazy right now.
A
The demons every time, rock tops.
D
I'm like this, it's like around me.
A
She'S like, I can't say that. The math equations going on in my brain.
B
It's literally, it's that meme. There's like every everything around you. That's it.
E
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B
Okay. I want to get into, like, predictions, Easter eggs that we think are for things to come. I think one of the bigger things that I'm noticing and slightly scared about is in the trailer, there's only a few. There's only, like, three or four scenes that we, like, haven't seen. And I'm scared they're all going to be in the episode that we're going to, like, episode eight. I'm scared they're all going to be in that. So 9, 10, 11. We literally, like, are watching blind. Because it's. I wrote it down so I wouldn't forget. It's about anger talking on the bed where she's like, he doesn't matter. It's just me, you and me. Taylor confronting Conrad, like, on the porch. Jar punching Conrad. And then belly walking with wedding. The golden light. That's all that's left.
D
I still feel like that's a dream for some reason.
B
I. I don't think. Yeah, I think. I don't think that's. That's real. Or else why would it be lit like that unless it, like, starts raining?
A
Isn't she supposed to also go to Paris at some point? Like, were they not spotted filming there?
B
Well, yeah, they were. Well, yeah.
C
Well, okay. So speaking of, they were spotted filming in Paris. I. Because the whole show I've been basically thinking, like, okay, when are they getting to. Like, they have to go to the point. And the song that she sings as a little girl when she's in the mirror is about being in Paris. And I think that is it.
A
Bye Bye Birdie.
B
That one that.
A
I love you, Conrad.
C
Yes. And it's I love you, Conrad. Bye Bye Birdie. And I am sensing that that'll probably be played because that scene was so long of her singing Bye Bye Birdie in the mirror that I just was like, this can't be. Like, yeah. Just randomly thrown in there. This has to be something. So I'm, like, hoping that that draws back into the Paris situation. So, like, my prediction is, like, there's no wedding.
B
Yeah.
C
No one's getting married. I need her to go to Paris with Conrad and.
B
Or by his.
C
Or go on her own.
A
And then Jeremiah's literally gonna get checked into a psych ward because what do you do?
D
He needs to get checked into a psych ward.
A
No, but if she's embarrassed, I can't.
C
Do you get it? Like, if.
A
If Jeremiah actually does lose Belly to Conrad, what happens for the remainder of.
C
You already lost. You were never the one.
B
I think it's gonna. I think she's gonna go to Paris. She's not gonna be with anyone. I think Jer is probably gonna end up with Red Bird. That's what everyone.
A
I think. So who's Redbird? The buddy. He's the.
B
He's the roommate guy.
A
Yeah, the roommate.
B
Actually, really sweet. I met him.
A
I know. The one that says in the scene in the bar.
D
The guy.
B
When they're around the pool, Annika is, like, asking around, and Belly's like, the one guy is Jer's ex. And Red Bird has dibs.
A
Yes.
B
So, no, wait.
C
Like, what's going on? I did not think. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
A
What?
D
Wait, say it again.
A
I'm literally, like, not well anymore. Actually, I'm reaching that point.
C
Belly. I'm gonna throw up.
B
Belly says, when Annika's like, I need to make out with someone, like, who's single. And Belly says, someone says, what? I'm forgetting his name. And Belly's like, his name is Redbird.
A
Tanner is Redbird.
B
Yeah. I don't know what his actual name is.
A
They don't ever say his real name. They just call him Red Bird.
B
Okay, so she says that she wants.
D
To make out with someone.
B
Yes. And then Belly goes. They say, what about Joe? I'm forgetting his name. Okay. And Belly's like, well, no, Joe is Jer's ex, and Redbird has dibs on him.
D
But who's Joe?
B
One of the guys.
A
The other guys at the.
B
One of the bachelor.
A
Bachelor party.
D
Okay.
B
That's what people think. That's what the Internet thinks, is that Jer and Redbird end up together because Jer pulls or Redbird pulls, He could.
C
End up with someone that's not Belly.
B
Yeah.
C
And it might just be one of his groomsmen.
B
Yeah.
C
And period.
A
And I sure hope so.
B
They both end up with his groomsmen.
C
No. Like, the only way that.
A
That's so true.
C
The only way Belly could end up with Comrade is if Jared dies.
D
I don't want them to.
C
I said that.
D
Wait, what did you say?
C
The only way Belly can be with Comrade is if Jared dies. I was for that. Wait, who said that?
B
Who was it the. The other Easter egg, which I thought I was going crazy, and then you guys sent it in the group chat, and I was like, okay, great. I'm not going crazy. Is the red flowers.
A
Yes. Yeah.
B
Episode six. There's only one.
A
And then last there was like, they're growing.
B
Yeah.
A
That is attention to detail. Jenny Han. I'm kicking on the forehead.
C
They are growing on the corner.
A
Yes. I thought there was only one. There was two.
D
There's one.
B
No, there's more.
A
The last episode, there's three. Girl, check your memes.
D
Wait, I thought she said there was one. No, Tik Tok information was wrong.
A
A couple episodes ago, there was one.
D
Then there's two, now there's three, four, or five.
C
They're just sprouting up in the corner.
B
I said something. We'll find it. We'll find it.
C
The other sprouting.
B
But the only thing that I like, really? That's. That's my only, like, prediction. Well, I have one more prediction, but it's more so on another realm. But I just, like, really, really, really hope we get, like, at least half an episode or a full episode. We won't get a full one. So I'll be realistic of just, like, Belly and Conrad, like, being in love. Like, if they skip off into the sunset, I'm gonna be pissed. Like, I need them, like, making out in love.
C
Yeah. No, I. I need that desperately because I need the fast forward, especially for the Conrad girls. Like, we have been. I've been fighting for my life this season. And like, in my head, like, after what she did to him in the last episode, being like, you will never be. I can't even repeat it. I'm not even repeating it because it's actually. That's sacrilegious. But the way that she was speaking to him in my head, I'm like, this, Conrad, please don't give up. Like, please keep going.
D
Oh, my gosh, keep going.
C
Like, I know you want to give up. I know that took a lot for you to speak up and say your mind, but I'm like, for the future, please keep going. Like, I need you guys.
A
Comforting himself. I want to lose my mom. Physically hugging himself physically, like, sitting there in Susanna's spot because no one's there to comfort him. Belly, watch your back.
C
Belly, count your days.
A
Literally, count your days.
C
Also, I am Team Give Belly more gummies. Seriously, the belly, the gummies. The gummies have given me, like, a new love for Belly because I'm like, hello. This is giving you clarity.
A
It is feeling like she spike back into reality, though. It's like there was a moment. There was a moment that I did adore Belly. Like, I didn't hate her like this.
B
Yeah. But this season, that's Taylor's. That's Taylor's biggest problem because he. He hasn't watched. I think he watched, like, kind of the finale with us, and he's watched, like, a couple episodes, like, here and there kind of with us, but he's never watched it. He's the only person I can watch it with, which is annoying. And he's like, I've already committed four episodes. I'm not stopping now. So I've tried, like, removing him from the equation. Love you, babe. But he's like, how do you root for anyone? I'm like, you just do, because it's. You've been watching it, but it's frustrating, but, like, it's just so messy. Yeah.
D
I can't root for anyone. Respectfully, moving forward. I told this to shield in the car. They have made. Besides Conrad, they have made everyone so unlikable. Like, when she's crying on the beach, I actually don't feel bad. I'm like, you deserve this. I'm sorry. Like, maybe that's an unpopular opinion, but when you do all of these things in you, you need to sit with the consequences that you've reaped. And I just really think that if you're gonna sleep with Jair and what. All this stuff, and. But then you still. You have every opportunity to be like, you're right. I need to figure this out, or, like, whatever. And she's looking at Conrad going, He's like, he's the only one that's ever loved me like this. I'm like, babe, he cheated on you.
B
Yeah.
D
What are you talking about?
C
Out.
B
Yeah.
D
Okay, then go be with him.
C
Yeah, I agree.
D
I don't. I don't root for her. No, it's.
A
It's really interesting because a lot of people are also mad at Conrad right now because why wait so long to come forward and say all this? But then you really start to get into the details of, like, he only stepped forward and opened his mouth because he found out that Jer cheated, and he had. He let Jeremiah and Belly be happy because he believed that the only person that could love her the way that she deserved is Jeremiah. He trusted her. And then he comes to find out that all of his time that he's been sitting back, letting the love of his life be with someone else, be happier, per se.
B
Yeah.
A
Is, like, false. Of course he's gonna jump forward. Like, I would, too. I'd be, like, right there.
C
It's like, I also feel like, for Belly, too, like, in her scenario, like, I'm. I'm over her, like, falling on the ground, like, squealing. But at the same time, I think it's really difficult for her because if you actually think she spent four years.
A
Yeah.
C
And I don't think she's faking it with Jerry. Like, she actually thinks. She thinks that she wants to be with him, but she knows deep down that's not what she wants. So now she has to come to terms with the fact that, like, she chose to be with Jer, knowing she could have just, like, communicated with Conrad and gotten back with him. And so for him to be like, I love you. Be with me. She's rejecting it because she's like, this is making me realize, like, I've genuinely messed up my whole life.
B
Yeah.
C
And I could have made better decisions. And that's why she's upset. Like, she's to reject it because she's like, this is what I wanted, and I could have had what I wanted this whole time and chose not to. And so now my. Like, my life is just messed up.
A
The book monologue is so eye opening when she says, I cried for Conrad, and then I cried for myself.
C
Yeah.
A
And then, you know, in this life, you can't always have things the way that you want them, essentially. And I. I find that so helpful because when she does cry there, I'm like, why are you being dramatic? But then you hear the thoughts behind it, and I'm like, yeah, because we didn't see those.
C
She literally has been waiting for Kamara to say exactly that. Like, the fact that he never even told her he loved her while they were together. And then he says it in that moment. Of course, she's like, why are you saying this now? Like, I needed this four years ago. Because, like, I've been secretly holding on to this. And you're gonna say it now when I've already messed my whole life up by being with your brother? Like, of course she's, like, upset. So I'm like, in that way, I actually do feel for her. And it's frustrating that Conrad says in that moment, but, like, what other moment was he going to say it?
B
Like, he.
C
He never.
B
He was holding it until. He was holding it until actually, like, he needed.
A
Yeah.
B
Yeah.
C
I just want him to stick J's head in the toilet.
B
I did, too.
A
I was like, when he slammed that door open and he goes, jer. I was like, when the wheels are.
B
Turning and he's hearing it, I was like, thank God.
C
Yeah.
B
Yes. Tosh.
D
I just don't understand how when she is saying all those things to him, which, like, all your points are valid. I get confused when I'm like, how do you still defend his behavior? Because, just, like, what Conrad said, like, he never looked at a girl. His mom died. You have to understand, like, his grieving process. And, yes, I don't think he was ever, like, a terrible, awful person to you. He just couldn't be, like, your boyfriend at the time. Which is why I was like, you know, go for Jer, like, if he's kind and he loves you and whatever, but it's not like he did awful things. So then when Jeremiah is, like, out being a fool and cheating on you and all this stuff, I'm like, how are you literally gonna tell Conrad that he's done far worse than Jeremiah has?
B
I don't get that's what we were talking about. It's because of the. I think she says it because of the depth of love that she has for them.
A
Sure.
D
That makes sense.
B
She doesn't. The love that her and Conrad have is like. Like.
D
Like that would hurt her way more than because she doesn't care as much about Jerry.
C
It's like that quote, that's like. Like, we accept the love we deserve. Like, that's.
B
I literally said that last episode. You did something else. That's so funny.
A
Wait. Weird.
C
Yeah. No, that's. That is that, like. That is genuinely. I genuinely think she's.
B
It's like.
C
It's bad, but it's like, the definition of settling. This is not what she wants, and she knows that deep down, but she's never gotten any of that feedback or.
B
Like, do you know Sando's so stubborn. She is. Yeah.
C
That's what I'm saying.
B
Laurel's daughter and Laurel did the same thing, and she's going to do. Yeah, that's why Laurel's like, also, so.
C
She needs to put her pride aside and be like, I messed up. This is going to suck. But, like, I need to choose Conrad. So.
D
But okay, so let me pose this thought, because I don't understand logistically. I know it's like a book and a TV show, but in reality, if you've been dating someone for four years and then you break off your engagement and you go be with their brother, is there a relationship with the brothers anymore? Like, surely not to me. That's bonkers.
B
Well, that's why I think there. There is a time jump again. Yeah. To Paris. Like, years have gone by, so I'm assuming that's.
C
I think there has to be a time jump. And I also think that when Conrad Was like, why are you getting married? Like, why are you doing this? Like, why can't you move in together? Why can't you just date? I think that's like, what he wants. Like, I don't think he's like, marry me, choose me. I think he's just like, be with me and like, let's try rekindle what we had. And like, if they do get together, it'll be something like that where it's like, they've actually been dating. And, like, I don't see how you could have a relationship. But I did just read a book recently that was like, very similar with the brothers and it worked out and they're. They have a cordial relationship because the other person moved on.
B
Yeah.
C
And found someone that. They were like, this is my person.
A
Step up and come to the. The front.
B
Red bird. Come on.
C
Yeah.
B
There's foreshadowing with like, bye bye birdie. Red bird.
E
Hopefully Jeremiah's.
B
Red is love.
A
Yes.
B
Jeremiah.
C
No, no. We're getting Zodiac killer is.
A
You know those memes that are like, whatever is wrong with you.
B
I like it, like, literally that my. My last prediction. And I really hope it's true. But we'll see if Taylor actually have to. Before I say this one, I am curious.
C
The whole.
B
The whole people thinking that Taylor's pregnant. I don't know if that's true, but Jennie did post BTS photos and I don't know if it's Rain or like, I don't know if it's like from in the scene or if it's just like Rain herself. She's. Rain is dressed as Taylor on set. That, like, that looks like they're like mid scene. And she's holding a ginger ale. And Jenny posted a BTS photo of her holding the ginger ale like, when those rumors started swirling. So I don't know if. I don't know if it was Taylor drinking a ginger ale or Rain drinking ginger.
D
Sure.
A
So that's good eyes. You're gonna put that out there?
B
Because I feel like that would just like get there. That would really just like, be a lot. But then I'm also like, why are we building up the storyline so much if we're not going to do anything? Yeah. With the other characters. Nice. But my. My only other prediction, depending on when Taylor Swift releases a single from her album, is that whatever song that is is going to be in the last episode that would.
C
Yes.
D
That's crazy.
A
If someone would have to resuscitate the.
B
Single, it will be on the last.
C
Episode Lola did an interview that she basically was like, there's a song that Jenny had to fight very, very hard for. And you. Ha. We haven't seen it yet. We haven't seen the scene or the song. So I am interested in to see, like, what that is.
B
Yeah.
C
Also really quickly, where are the letters?
A
Are we Susanna's letters also?
B
They're about. Well, book wise, they're about to happen.
C
Okay. Because I am like, wait, I'm waiting. Yeah, I'm. I'm waiting on the letter.
B
I think it's this next episode. Okay. Because he. I think. I think it's in the book. He. I don't know if he punches him and then reads it or. Because Conrad goes to find. I don't want to say.
C
Yeah, no, no, no.
A
But here's. Can I do my theory? Because did anyone else see the things about the letters getting swapped? Like, they fell maybe. And I'm curious if that does come to fruition.
C
No, I didn't see that. I just remember that in season two, Susannah wrote letters and I know, like, based off of the book, what's in them. So I've been kind of waiting all season for, like, when do the letters come into play? And like, when will they be to us? But we'll get there.
A
It's when the Laurel, like, reaches over Susanna and like, takes her tray and like, fights with her. They fall.
B
I think they get messed up. And I think there's some form of a wedding happening because then they wouldn't be reading.
A
I think that the letters are given.
B
So I think they give the letters and then it's like. And then it's like, that's.
A
That's my prediction probably says, oh, I hope you support Conrad and Bentley for the rest of your life.
B
Yeah. Something in there.
C
Yeah. That has to happen. I feel like that would be. Honestly, I feel like that would be the only thing that could make Jeremiah Conrad be like. Like our mom literally said, like, I don't know. There's just nothing else.
B
Yeah.
D
I think Belly too. I think if she knew because she and Laurel.
B
Laurel's.
C
Laurel knows.
B
They're like, I wish Susanna was here. Like, Susanna would know what to say. Or like they're. They call back to that a lot.
C
Yeah. That's why I'm like. I'm like, where are they? Give me the letters.
B
So going into this episode tonight, if you're watching this before, we're sending you love and prayers because we will also need the love and prayers.
C
I'll be on a stretcher.
B
Yeah.
A
Seriously cold call.
B
Rap Sheila. Okay, you guys wrote in, and we have a few relationship questions that you guys needed advice on, and so we are here to. To give that to you. Okay. The first one that I have is I feel like this is actually like, somewhat along the lines of the show, but my relationship is really healthy. This is the first healthy relationship I've had. I love my partner, but sometimes it feels boring. Any advice?
A
I don't have advice because I left my boring partner.
B
We're also all at different stages and phases of the dating wheel, so I.
A
Feel like we all have that monotonous feeling is very relatable, though. I think a lot of. I've heard a lot of advice about how love is. Like, you have to choose love, and you have to choose what you have to set things up. I think it comes down to compromise, maybe communicating with your partner that you'd like to excite your life a little bit more.
B
I also.
C
I mean, I don't think boring is bad. I also think if this person, it's like, their first healthy relationship, like, sometimes it's uncomfortable to have change. And if you have grown up in, like, an unstable environment or you've always been in a relationship that is unstable, once you have, like, stillness, you don't really know what to do with it. So that can be a struggle. But I also feel like, like you're saying she. Like, if you just communicate that to your partner a little bit, and I don't know what you would want to excite things, but, like, if it's negative, it's not necessary. Like, you're good.
B
Yeah. I even feel like it's just like, putting in effort.
C
Yeah.
B
But I feel like that, like, if it feels out of lull, like, obviously relationships, like, ebb and flow. And we, you know, we've both been like, yeah, Relationships for a long time. And it definitely, like, I think it would be bad if it's constantly, like, up. Like, it has to go down. And I think if you're just, like, putting in the effort to, like, make sure, like, you go on a date night or, like, do put in some effort or, like, you know, Taylor will come up sometimes with flowers for me, like that, like, putting in something like that is like putting an effort and not just, like, just coexisting with the person. Yeah.
A
Natasha used to tell me too, when I was in this relationship that I used to be super vibrant before. And it's different, though, if your relationship is starting to pull the color away from you. Like, I started to kind of Gray out a little bit.
B
So.
A
So boring is an interesting adjective because it's like, are. Are you becoming a version of yourself that is less excited about life, or is it just because you're so safe, like Keaton said? Yeah, those are the things to, like, consider.
C
Yeah. And, like, if it's boring, it's like, your partner doesn't know to change that unless you tell them. Like, you literally have to be, like, you have to be communicative if you want them to do things for you. You want them to change things, like, literally. How would they know unless you said it?
A
So, yeah, 100.
B
Just say that. That. Yeah. You can't expect them to read your mind. That was the biggest thing my therapist told me once. He was like, taylor can't read your mind, so you need to, like, tell him. And I was like, yeah, you're right.
C
Yeah, you're right.
A
You're right.
B
Okay, next one is my partner, and I do not fight. Well, what are the beginning steps to try and change this fight?
C
Well, what do you mean? I have, like, volatile fighting.
D
Oh, volatile fighting. What does that mean?
B
Like.
C
Like, where they're very argumentative or, like.
A
They don't resolve it, maybe.
D
Oh, I've had experience with this because Bradley and I, when we first started dating, we have very different communication styles. So, like, if we get in a disagreement or. Yeah, like, something bugs us, I'm someone. Like, I need a little bit of space, and I just need. Even if it's like, 10 minutes, I need to calm myself down. I need to, like, prepare myself mentally to go into a conversation where I'm gonna actually express how I feel in a kind, gracious way. And he wants to hash it out.
B
Like.
D
Like, he cannot leave the room with one of us feeling bad, like, never go to sleep, one of us angry. Like, that's not how he operates. So there was just this back and forth where, like, it ended up making things a lot worse. And I think after, you know, several times of, like, realizing that, then we were able to go, okay, so you operate this way, and I operate this way. How can we come to a compromise in this moment?
B
Is it.
D
Can I have five minutes to myself instead of having a whole hour alone?
C
Phone.
D
Like, he doesn't want me to walk away, but sometimes I don't want to talk. And so I think it really is just about balance and figuring out how you communicate and understanding also why that person is speaking the way that they are or, like, the reason they want to communicate in that way, you know?
A
Yeah, it's Such good advice.
B
Yeah. Knowing how you react in conflict and how your partner reacts in conflict. Because Taylor's the same way. He, like, wants to talk, like, talk about it right now.
C
Now that's.
A
And, like, that's literally me. She knows this.
B
I, like. I, like, would almost, like, feel attacked because I had never been in a relationship where we even, like, talked. Like, if there was a disagreement before, and so Taylor would, like, bring it up to me, and I would, like, literally, like, start to panic and, like, be like, oh, my gosh, the world's ending. We're breaking up. And, like, then my mind, like, I couldn't even, like, think straight. So after I learned that, like, the house isn't burning down, Taylor's literally just asking me a question. Like, this is how he communicates states. Like, he's not. He's not. Like, when he says it, he's not being aggressive in any way. But to me, the first time I was like, oh, my gosh. But now I'm like, no, this is actually just, like, how he talks. Like, how he communicates when there's a disagreement. And now I know that. So when we do disagree, I, like, don't, like, freak out. And, like, all the alarm bells in my head.
D
Sometimes I feel like the way that you argue or the way that you communicate in conflict ends up being, like, the bigger problem than the issue at hand. Like, it could be so small and minute, but if you guys aren't on the same page of, hey, I need this in a conversation, and I need this, then it blows up, and it can go on for so much longer. So I feel like just being honest and saying, hey, this is how I operate. This is how you operate. How can we come to, you know, a middle ground or just having that understanding of, like, I'm not trying to attack you. I'm not leaving because I'm avoiding. I just, like, need a minute. Or, hey, I. I don't like this unsettling feeling or whatever it is for, you know, your couple.
A
My college roommates and I, this is a little different. But some of us were more sensitive. I'm talking about by ourselves. But when being approached with, like, confrontation or difficult conversation. So we picked a word that we would say before. So we selected sponge. And so we would just say, like, sponge, which is, like, a sign of, like, I love you. I'm about to say something. So can you just, like, kind of prepare yourself a little bit?
B
Yeah.
A
Do you mind doing your dishes more often? Like, you're leaving them out or, like, whatever you're gonna say just kind of like, give them a little fair warning because I'm coming from a place of love, and I just want you to know that. And this is going to be tough. And it worked for us really well.
B
Yeah. This next one is I sometimes doubt my partner's feelings, even though they love me. How do I stop overthinking? I think this one is like a huge. Like, if you are feeling this way and, you know, sometimes it is like your partner actually isn't giving you enough. But then sometimes I think it is how we're projecting how we feel about ourselves onto our partner and we're saying that they're not loving us enough. But really it's like how you're viewing yourself. So I think really working on, like, self love, if it is actually the case, would really help.
C
Yeah, I was gonna say therapy. And, like, not in a funny way, like in a legit. Like, that's something that, like, you have to internally work on. And sometimes you can't do that just within yourself. And your partner can't always, like, help you change your mindset. They can't do all of that work for you. And therapy is like, one of the best tools you can obviously do to, like, kind of learn how to, like, not project those feelings onto them or if they're not giving you what they need, for example. And, like, it's not obviously like just internal. It's more so working on, like, what can you. What can you do in that scenario? What can I control if this is out of my control? Kind of.
B
Yeah.
A
Therapy genuinely changed my life.
B
Yeah, we love. We love therapy.
D
Something that I love is always finding out what people's love languages are, because that is such a key bit of information to, again, how someone receives love and how you can give it. And in my family, obviously, I've known them for so long, but it took me even a while. And things change with, like, different family members express their love differently and receive it. So, like, I know my dad really loves quality time. So, like, I could give him a gift, I could give him a card. But if I'm like, like spending the whole day with him, that means so much. I know that he'll go, like, natasha loves me. Natasha cares about me. And when you're with a partner, it's the same thing. If you know, like, hey, you telling me you love me and you care about me, that means more than you doing the dishes or something like that. That's also a really key part to express and also uncover. Like, when you are in a relationship, because then your partner can go, okay, I know this would mean a lot more because they might be. They might think that they're doing something on their end that's super caring, like, oh, well, I picked up groceries or I cleaned the house, but maybe your partner's going, okay, well, I just wish that we spent, like, an hour on the couch together. That would mean more to me, you know? Yeah.
B
Yeah.
D
I love love languages.
B
That was going to be. My next question is me and my partner both have very different love language. How do we make sure that we're both feeling valued? I think. Yeah. Once you learn. I also, like. I think it's one thing to learn what. What your partner's love language is, but also, like, trying to, like, do it, I feel like, can be hard, like, intentionally trying to do it, because I still, like, I. My love language is, like, acts of service. Like, even just, like, if Taylor picks up a vacuum and starts vacuuming. He started vacuuming the other day, and I walked out, and I was like, what's going on? Like, I thought the vacuum turned on by itself, but, like, I was, like, so excited. Like, it's like, things like that that make me happy, but, like, you know, tailors this physical touch and making sure that I'm, like, intentionally, like, taking a moment to, like, hug him, to sit with him. Like, just put my hand on his leg and, like, having to, like, train your brain to, like, think about it, like, because I, like, you know, I clean the house all the time. I'm, like, showing love, but that's not. Taylor doesn't view that. Exactly. So trying to, like, learning it is one thing. You then have to be, like, cognizant that you're, like, doing it. Definitely. Yeah.
C
100. Mine is words of affirmation. So sometimes, like, I'm. I'm, like, the most most vocal person ever. You know, I am with Brandon. Like, I literally be like, words. I need words.
B
Yeah.
C
I need words. Like, if I get dressed up and I'm going somewhere and, like, in five seconds, like, I haven't heard, like, you're so beautiful. I'm like, where are my words? Like, I'm waiting on my words.
B
I'm sorry.
C
Like, that's what I want to hear. So, like, he. He obviously has gotten so. And he's, like, the least like that. So it's funny because I feel like you always kind of end up with someone you have, like, opposite.
B
Yeah.
C
Love languages in communication style. So it's funny because he is, like, not like, that he doesn't like confrontation. Not that that's confrontation, but he just doesn't like to vocalize things. It's very hard for him. So, like, I have to, like, I will literally remind him and he has to do the same for me. Like, his love language is quality time, which is hilarious because I love to be alone.
B
Yes.
C
Like, it's very funny because I have to then be very intentional about, like, okay, it would. Would, like, make him very happy if, like, tonight when he got home from work, I already picked a show for us to watch. And I, like, know what I'm making for dinner and I'm doing this. Like, it's very important. Like, I will, like, even with friends, like, I'll be like, I. I have to do this. I have to take the time because, like, he's been gone. We haven't had any quality time. And, like, that's the most important thing to him. So, like, yeah, just prioritizing that.
A
Yeah, no, you're really good at that.
C
No, I'm really good staying at home. No.
B
Yeah. Yeah, you're like, I'm really good at.
C
Yeah, I love quality time.
B
I love to stay up. Well, thanks, ladies, for this catch up that we very, very, very, very much needed. If we missed any Easter eggs or parallels or predictions, let us know. We can leave a comment if you're watching this on YouTube or go. Go onto YouTube and leave a comment.
E
Or go to our Instagram.
B
But thanks to our experts for chiming in and we'll see you guys at the finale.
A
Like, honestly, I think we need to be referred to as Patience.
B
Yay, Patience. Lol.
A
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Podcast: The Squeeze
Host: Taylor Lautner
Episode Air Date: August 27, 2025
Special Guests: Keaton, Natasha, Sheila
Topic: Deep dive into The Summer I Turned Pretty (TSITP) Season 3 — fandom debates, character arcs, show parallels, relationships, predictions, and personal insights.
This episode features an unfiltered "girl-chat" between host Taylor Lautner and three friends—Keaton, Natasha, and Sheila—who are outspoken fans of TSITP. The conversation jumps between passionate analysis of the show's love triangle, reactions to key moments, predictions, and how TSITP parallels real-life relationships. Alongside the fandom chat, they answer listener questions on relationships, bringing TSITP’s storylines into real-world context.
Notable Quote:
"Even though I was never Team Jeremiah, I still can't forget that neck grab scene." — [A] (00:15)
"It was a defining moment in me and Natasha's friendship." — [B] (00:24)
Notable Quote:
"I'm just solely team Conrad. I'm not team Conrad and Belly. I'm just Team Conrad." — [D] (05:20)
Notable Quote:
"I think it's bad writing that they didn't [balance the triangle], because in the show, you should be able to write it where you do still have the back and forth… now it's like, nobody likes this character." — [D] (11:43)
Notable Quotes:
"When he says 'it's always, it's been always' and points to his heart—I literally almost fainted." — [C] (21:08)
"The flashback with the bike... those to me, are, like, so, so sweet." — [C] (20:21)
“It’s not just matching the mood... it’s like the lyrics also match. Everything is so intentional and genius.” — [D] (23:41)
The episode channels raw fandom energy—emotional, loud, and deeply invested in both storytelling elements and the messy morality of the TSITP love triangle. It’s full of humor, exasperated rants, pop culture references, and personal asides. The hosts don’t shy away from criticizing the show’s writing but remain devoted to their favorite characters and ship-dynamics. The relationship Q&A segment closes things on a personal, heartfelt, and supportive note, in line with the show’s core focus on mental health and wellbeing.
Final lines:
“Thanks to our experts for chiming in and we’ll see you guys at the finale.” — [B] (76:05)
For fans of TSITP, this episode is a vibrant, document-the-memory, big-group-chat experience that blends relatable relationship talk with passionate fandom theorizing.