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Amanda
The following podcast is a Dear Media production.
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Amanda Hirsch
What was happening?
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Taylor
Yeah, wasn't that Conrad moment so amazing?
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Amanda
We were like screaming about these characters.
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Amanda Hirsch
What is it about this one?
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Taylor
Like, it's a show.
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Amanda
That's what I was talking. I talked about that in the episode.
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Amanda Hirsch
I was like, we feel Gavin's annoying. Not Gavin. No. Bye. The Hunting Wives on Netflix.
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Taylor
We haven't.
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God. You guys have to watch it and then get it on because it's be gonna. Gonna turn you on.
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Taylor
Glorious, incredible name. Was that just your Instagram handle?
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Amanda Hirsch
Are you being Facesh again?
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Taylor
I'm not being Facesh anymore.
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Amanda Hirsch
You're being Facesh, the dumbest name ever. Imagine you're like following a meme page.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
You don't care who this person is. At some point I was like, wait, wait, wait. You want people to know you? Why are we pretending to be a non Remember one day, just like so many unfollows. I remember my first episode fell exactly when the Tristan and Jordyn woods scandal happened. And I was like, God loves me. She was doing it in a cool way. And then I was like, I'm nine months.
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Amanda
You're like having contractions.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, you just can't look cool doing that. Oh, my God. I've kind of turned on my dog. Used to make out on the mouth. Now I'm literally like, stop, Leo. You know what I mean? But if we do it now, it's a girl. And he's like, what? And she was like, can we talk about this at another time? And I was like, you're a pussy. Just saying.
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Amanda
Amanda, welcome to the Squeeze. But as we were saying, no, Taylor is the most dramatic person. He, after the episode of Semi Turn Pretty, had a full on 7 minute and 49 second crash out. I may have recorded it in my pocket.
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Taylor
I knew you were, by the way.
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Amanda
Literally crashed out last night.
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Taylor
Warranted. It was warranted.
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Amanda Hirsch
Wait, don't tell me. Episode seven, the wedding episode. I haven't watched yet.
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Amanda
It's.
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Amanda Hirsch
I know.
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Amanda
Yeah, yeah. It's just. I could send you Taylor's crash out if you would like, after.
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Amanda Hirsch
But wait, you're so gonna post it like you're gonna post the crash out, are you not? She's editing it as we said. I don't know.
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Taylor
I'm gonna have to listen to this back.
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Amanda Hirsch
But wait. Oh, you recorded it without video? You just wanted to get. I literally.
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Amanda
I clicked record and stuck it in my pocket and I have a over seven minute long video.
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Amanda Hirsch
Wait, what was happening? I don't see Spoil it. But like, what were you crying?
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Taylor
She won't let me talk. And I get this. She won't let me talk and give my opinions or any comments while it's airing because she's like, let me enjoy it. And she'll just like look over and I'll just be scoffing or rolling my eyes or something and I'm internalizing all of my thoughts during the hour long episode. So the second it finishes is when I just let her have it.
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Amanda Hirsch
And man, and what? Wait, wait, Taylor, you don't enjoy that? Like, you don't want to talk about it after?
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Amanda
I mean, I want to talk about it, but not in the way that Taylor wants to talk about it.
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Taylor
She wants to be like, yeah, wasn't that Conrad moment so amazing? Oh, I just love him. Like, that's the way she wants to talk about it.
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Amanda Hirsch
But isn't it crazy that in every couple. Because I swear to God, I was just about to post this like the other night, but I was like, I feel like I've posted this 100 times. But literally me and my husband watching a show is like me being like, no. But then he said it was. But meanwhile, like, I keep going and he doesn't answer once. Isn't that so funny? Like, I don't get the hint where I'm like, I'm just talking to him the entire episode and I'm not exaggerating when I tell you he doesn't reply. And. And I feel like in every couple there is like the one that wants to talk and the one that just wants to watch. And I just want to like, debrief while we're watching.
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Amanda
Yeah, yeah, Taylor. Taylor's the one that asks questions. But this one, he just is like, it just, it doesn't make any sense.
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Amanda
How do you root for anyone? And he's just like going, I'm like, just let me live in ignorance. And like, just.
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Taylor
It's so frustrating.
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Amanda Hirsch
Well, by the way, Taylor, I posted this one day where I was like, can we for a second? Like, like, because there was that episode where you see that, like you see the, the sex scene with her and Conrad and I'm like, she fucked both brothers. Like, let's take a minute. Yeah, let's take a minute. Like, this isn't nor. She's not like, Conrad is upset we're getting married. That's so crazy. Like, no, you fucked him. Like, what? So I posted it. I've got so many replies being like, I Married my husband after I talked with, like, it's more common than you think. Like, people either experience it or know people that have, like, think about, like, small towns. Like, it just so happens that, like, the two brothers, you know, are. But, Tay, I know you're really into Tsi tp, but, like, what do you guys think about the fact that the show had to make two announcements to not bully the cast? Like, where are we living?
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Taylor
I don't. I'm confused. People can't separate people from their characters.
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Amanda
What is going on? I talked about that. Well, technically, this episode's coming out later, but I just did a solo episode by myself, and I was talking about, I went to, like, New York and did a whole thing with prime and, like, did content on the carpet, blah, blah, blah. And I was talking about it in my recap because we're. We're friends with Gavin, and so he.
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Amanda Hirsch
He was on my show. I feel so bad.
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Amanda
Yes.
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Taylor
And he getting bullied.
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Taylor
I mean, they are making his character terrible.
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Amanda Hirsch
Wait, Taylor. He's the only one. Like, the announcement is for Gavin.
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Taylor
Really?
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, I wonder just what it is about this show that makes people not be able to do it because we're able to do it in other ones. Like, what is it about this one? It's not like we're watching. You know, it ends with us. I mean, terrible example on my part, but, like. But it's not like we're watching that and being, like, mad at the character who hit. Yeah, like, lively character. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not even, like, team anyone. Like. Like, Gavin's annoying. I. Not Gavin. No. Bye. How can people not separate? I don't understand Jeremiah. So annoying.
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Taylor
But, like, yeah, the character is just not.
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Amanda Hirsch
But so is Belly. Like, she's so annoying.
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Taylor
Yeah. I just. I end each episode so frustrated, and I'm like, how are we rooting for any situation here? We're just over it.
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Amanda
And then I'm like, the person that's, like, so knee deep and literally, like, knows every parallel to every song that was, like, played in past seasons. Because I love little things like that. And I'm like, this is so sweet how, you know, bellies die. But I understand. But I get it because I was. I'm less frustrated now that it's, like, the three main characters on the screen, because the first few episodes, I was like, I'm done with these side storylines. We don't need them. Why are we wasting time?
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Amanda Hirsch
Right?
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Amanda
So we normally start each episode off with, like, a jar. We Have a game called Citrus Got Real. And I don't have those questions. But my question I was going to ask because she's so good at, like, reality and knowing shows and things. What shows are you watching and what shows would you, like, recommend right now?
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Amanda Hirsch
Good question. So the show that I actually was thinking of when I just said a book, a show changes from the book. And it's a great idea. The Hunting Wives on Netflix. If you haven't watched it, we haven't. So sexy. Oh, my God. You guys have to watch it.
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Taylor
Okay.
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Amanda Hirsch
And then get it on because it's gonna turn you on. It's a really good show. I really recommend it. It's not only sexy, but it's also, like a good murder mystery. And the actors are really good and I love it. And they also. It's based on a book and they changed up the end so book readers will have a different vibe in reality. I have to say, I'm so excited about this new show. Love thy Nadir. It's the Nader Sisters. And let me tell you, I went into it being like, I like Brooks a lot. I don't know that I'm going to care about her family, you know, like her sisters. Episode one. Listen. These girls, nothing is off limits. Which I feel like is so. We're so used to now on reality tv. People coming in obviously to get famous, but they lie that they don't want to be famous or they're like, just waiting for the brand deal, or they're just, like, acting based on what they think the audience will. Will want. And I feel like these girls, although they do want to be famous and they'll be honest about that. Nothing is off limits.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, she's injecting Ozempic on the show. Spoiler alert. But this is like a wild storyline on it. And it's like this girl is a model. She's, like, super skinny, and she's. She probably knows what can come of this, right? What people will think. But they just put it all out there.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Ozempic Fudge. Like, cheating scandals, sister fights, like, nudity, all of it. I just feel like it's like we needed a reality show where people, like, aren't afraid to put it all out there anymore. And it's not this, like, cookie cutter, you know, filming scenes, reality show, but rather like, all Hell Breaks Loose. So. Highly recommend. All episodes are out on Hulu. Sounds like I'm a brand partner. It's just really good.
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Taylor
I'm like, do you make a cameo.
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Amanda Hirsch
And tune in for episode eight. No, I'm just kidding. But you asked, and I answered, so I gave you guys one fictional show, one reality show.
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Taylor
Yeah, we were planning on checking it out.
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Amanda
Yeah, that was on. That was on our.
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Amanda
Okay, great. Well, I'm excited to, like, chat and have the roles reversed now, because I.
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Amanda Hirsch
Know I can't do it. I'll flip it back to you.
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Amanda
I know she, like, starts interviewing us, and it's, like, just 40 minutes of us answering questions. But we truly had, like, so much fun with you. I feel like that was, like, one of our most fun podcasts. I'd love to know where you've been doing this for a while. So, like, where. Like, how. How did podcasts. Like, where did that come from? How did it start?
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Amanda Hirsch
I mean, there's, like, part of me. I'm such a competitive, like, with myself person that I'll always. Not in a bad way. I think it keeps me kind of up and running. But sometimes I'll be like, I wish I was, like, more of a podcast pioneer, you know? But then again, like, I started 2019 where, like, obviously podcasts were around, but not, like, today. We're like, I do love it for the medium that, like, new podcasts are starting every day.
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Taylor
Oh, yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
This isn't like a. You know, something that's, like, running out or it's not gonna be a thing anymore. It's like, no, there are new podcasts every day. I started in 2019, like, totally on a whim. Like, I had my Instagram, and I was like, now that I have 100,000 followers, it is time to.
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Amanda
The time has come to conquer.
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Amanda Hirsch
The time has come. After the 100k balloon, it was time to evolve. But I really felt that way. I was like, now I have to, like, move on to, like, I have to use this and kind of turn into the next thing. So it started as, like, just another place for me to talk about pop culture, which I had been doing on my Instagram. So it's like, that was a place for me to just talk more in depth about what's going on. I remember my first episode fell exactly on, like, when the Tristan and Jordan woods scandal happened. And I was like, God loves me, because that was such a good episode to, like, debrief. What the fuck happened? That's my first episode ever. Like, I really remember it, and. And then it kind of evolved. Like, that was my plan. And then I think, like, watching reality tv, talking about it, then I would, like, become friendly with the people and Be like, oh, you want to come on? And then they would come on. And then it was like celeb adjacent to people. Like, Chris Appleton was in my one bedroom apartment because he, like, cut the Kardashians hair. You know, he like, does it, remember, by the way I met him. And he's like, who are you? And I'm like, you were in my bathroom. But no problem. But that's literally like, that was so exciting to me because he was like doing. I mean, he's a huge deal now. Yeah, right. Like, he's everywhere. But then I was like, reality star is celebrity adjacent. People totally kind of winging it. And slowly but surely it kind of built, kind of built momentum and it just, it really is my fucking passion and everything that I do. And I'm. I have become a better business person. I get the money side of it and the job side of it. But truly, like, the most important part to me is that I love what I do. It's just so that, like, I'm so interested. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm actually interested, like, so I'm dying to know, like, what happened. Tell me, like, how filming was. Tell me that, like, I, like, I really care. So it's really fun for me that I. That I get to do it, you know?
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Amanda
So.
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Amanda
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Amanda Hirsch
Did the.
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Taylor
Did the glorious, incredible name. Was that just your Instagram handle before you transitioned to the podcast?
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Amanda Hirsch
Are you being facetious again?
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Taylor
I'm not being Facesh anymore.
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Amanda Hirsch
You're being facetious. And it's okay. It's the dumbest name ever.
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Amanda
No, it's actually, it's actually so good because Dumbest name ever. I'll literally be like, oh, I'm talking with Amanda. They're like, who's Amanda? I'm like, that's gonna be enough. Oh my gosh. I love, like, I feel like so many people know your brand, but that's when you know you've really made it. When people know your brand more than your name. Like, I would rather have people know my brand more than my name.
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Taylor
Yeah, she's the lemons girl.
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Amanda Hirsch
Oh, of course. Well, the thing is. So let me take you back to 20. When I started my Instagram, let's all envision. We were there. Meme accounts were really all the rage. Okay, So I was following, like, the fat Jewish. My therapist says, fuck, Jerry, are you getting the theme here? Like, the names? So girl with no job. Right. Boy with no job. So I was always a very impetuous person. And I was. I know this is a mental health podcast and this is a fitting story because we had just moved me and my husband back to New York and I was, this is gonna be great. I got this, like, back to New York, Woohoo. And anxiety really just took over me. But, like the debilitating kind. And it's so funny when you're in anxiety. You're like, I don't know what's happening. And then when you look out, you're like, no, babe, you moved a country. Your husband is fucking foreign. You had to, like, he was on you, dependent on you. Like, it was a lot of pressure all around. That's why you collapsed. You know what I mean? So out of that time came Alike. These memes were kind of making me giggle, you know, And I was like, this is so fun. And then one night, trying to fall asleep, I was like, I could write funny, cute things. Like, I always loved writing. I'd been like, a writing minor in college. So I was like. And I remember it was literally, like, that night in bed being like, tomorrow, I'm gonna start an Instagram account, and I'm gonna start writing funny things, and I'm gonna call it and came up with this dumb fucking name. And, you know, and that's what, you know when people ask, like, for advice about how to start a day, start out. Like, I just love it for me, the way that it started, because I know what a pure place it's started from. Like, was I a thirsty person in my life? For sure. Had I always dreamed of, like, being in the entertainment industry? 100% have done crazy shit to. To. To try to get there my whole life. But this specifically came out of a, like, meme pages are so funny. I'm really depressed. Let me start this, like, thing. And it was anonymous because I just wrote memes, right? So it was anonymous for a very long time. But at that time, people. I don't think there were, like, DMs, so people had to, like, tag. People remember, like, just a little tag. So I would, like, built like a baby, following just for memes. And I think at some point, I was like, wait, wait, wait. You're not this, like, egoless. Like, you want people to know you. Why are we pretending to be Anon? So I remember one day just, like, just, like, putting my face. And you know what I remember guys, like, so many unfollows. Really unpowered. Yeah, because. Because. And it makes sense. It made sense to me, by the way, because I was like, imagine you're, like, following a meme page.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
You don't care who this person is, right? It's called not skinny, but not fat. You don't know. Like, if they're, like, 85, like, in the basement, I don't care. Like, and then this is like. But you know what? Then I even remember being like, okay, all right. Like, this is part of it. Like, if I want to be known. Also for me, me with my, like, 50k probably at the time, if I want to be known. Also for me, like, this is part of the thing. Like, lose the people that don't care about the person. Gain some people who care. So it's kind of like a transition then from memes to kind of me, kind of celebs, kind of like. And it honestly just, like, evolved from there. I was working two jobs until 2020. So, like, started in 2016, 2020. I was. Gave birth to my first kid, Noah, and I think that was, like, my first brand deal. And then I quit the two jobs, like, as they were coming in.
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
So really at the whole time that I was doing it, the four, which, by the way, I feel like doesn't happen today. Like, I feel like people, like, go on TikTok. They're like, I made two TikToks, like, where is my brand deal? You know?
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
And I'm like, five years later.
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Taylor
This was a journey.
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Amanda Hirsch
So it was a long time. But I have to be honest, it was like, me being like, this is so fun for me. This is my passion. If anything ends up coming for it from it. How cool is that? Like, yeah. If I even would apply to, like, jobs like, that sounded cool, like, at Bustle or, like, buzzfeed, and I would be like, and I have an Instagram with 100k followers. And I didn't even get that. I was like, I could do listicles and be cute. Didn't get it. Getting jobs there is, like, harder than fucking doing this, by the way, because I remember applying and being like, oh, and now I have this portfolio basically of, like, creativity. So. So slowly but surely. Slowly but surely. And with a lot of, like, belief. But also, like, whatever comes of this, I will be cool with. Because something good ought to come.
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Of it. And so it. So it did by brick.
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Amanda
I know. I feel like I have a lot of people that ask. Like, ask me, like, they're interested in starting a podcast and, like, ask me about it. I'm like, you got to actually, like, really, really, really love whatever you, like, want to do with your podcast because it's. I mean, it's work and, like, it takes time to, like, build your brand. But, like, I enjoy it so much because I get to have conversations with people and meaningful conversations, and it has to be worth it.
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Taylor
So it's not a good side hobby. That's, like, what I tell people.
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Amanda Hirsch
Right?
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Amanda
It's not a side. It's a full.
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Taylor
Yeah. People ask us all the time. I'm sure they Ask you ten times more, but, like, about starting their own. And I'm like, you gotta, like. I feel like most of the people asking me are thinking of it, like, it's just gonna be a little side thing that I do. And I'm like, it's not really like that, but yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
So just. I think it's good to tell people, like, the truth, because I agree with you. Like, it's very much. And that's what I just told, like, an actress friend who I love, and 100,000 people would listen to her podcast. Like, she's amazing. But, like, the advice I gave her, too, was like, you should start it, like, about something that you're really passionate about. Not just, like, I have a following, so they'll follow me here. Because, by the way, that has proved a lot of times to not be true. You know what I mean? Like, just because you do have a following, they won't necessarily tune in. It has to. It depends on, like. And some people without a following have a really great podcast that they got a following out of the. So it really depends, and you really have to be passionate about it. And, you know, people also think, like, I feel like it's so. People think. Don't know how it works. So sometimes they think, like, the place that is your podcast network, like, gets you the thing and you just show up or whatever, and it's like, no, it's literally all you. You know what I mean? It's your. Your show, your creative call, your booking, your shit. So I agree with that, with that advice about telling people, but I think at the end of the day, like, I met somebody actually few months ago that also started a podcast, and they were like, it's so hard. It's like, I didn't realize, like, it was gonna be so hard. And I'm like, if you can't, like, handle, like, recording an episode once a week, you know, then that just means you're not feeling it, you know? Yeah, but I get it. People want their own brands. At the end of the day, they don't just want the Instagram or the TikTok. They want a brand. And I think if, like, the next best thing in people's minds is, like, a podcast, you know, But I think a thousand people can start one. But at the end of the day, the people that will stay are the people that care about kind of their work, you know?
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Taylor
When did you transition to having guests?
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Amanda Hirsch
So I said before, like, it started with talking about pop culture, and then you became kind of intertwined with, like, reality people. Because I would pose about the show and then they would be like, this happened. Which I love about reality TV people. Which I'm sure you know. Right. Like, you're watching like, Vanderpump Rules. That. That was really, by the way, my baby. Okay. Like, Vanderpump Rules. Did you guys watch it?
- [28:13]
Amanda
I kind of watched it. I had a girlfriend growing up that was like, obsessed with it.
- [28:17]
Amanda Hirsch
But you guys have to. It is so fucking good. It is the reality of all reality, like, imo. And I remember just starting to post about it and being like, talking about it. And then a cast member would be like, that's not what happened. Like, this happened. I'm like, want to come on the pod in my kitchen, jk. So that's how it started. And then it was, you know, like I was saying, kind of a celeb adjacent this, that. And then it kind of grew like the people that were interested in and coming on so.
- [28:50]
Taylor
And then you're having Kristen Stewart on your podcast.
- [28:52]
Amanda Hirsch
You know, I was just talking about her yesterday because a friend had asked me, like, who's the most like, you know, when you get asked this question, it's so hard because I've had so many people that I am shocked that agreed to come on or was so excited to meet them. But Kristen is really like, oh, you.
- [29:10]
Amanda
Know what I mean?
- [29:10]
Amanda Hirsch
It's like, she's so freaking cool. She's so talented. She's so down to earth. She was so everything that I am still blown away to this day. And I'm so also icked out by myself because I was like nine months pregnant doing the tongue out eating vagina lesbian thing with her that I don't know if she was doing it in a cool way. And then I was like, meanwhile, I'm nine months pregnant.
- [29:41]
Amanda
You're having contractions.
- [29:44]
Amanda Hirsch
You just can't look cool doing that. You know what I mean? When you're pregnant just isn't giving.
- [29:50]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [29:51]
Amanda Hirsch
So I look back at that photo and I would just get back to that moment of being, like, so bloated, so pregnant, trying to be like, Kristen Stewart cool. Failing. But with her, it's like, I'm so proud of that interview because I went into it being like, give me a basic bitch any day. I'll fucking. We'll have a blast. You know what I mean? Give me someone with a little bit of basic bitch. Like, don't worry about it.
- [30:18]
Taylor
Yeah.
- [30:19]
Amanda Hirsch
I was so fearful that Kristen has, like, zero basic bitchness. You know what I mean? Like, she's just cool and way too cool for all of us. And it was so cool to kind of uncover, not that she has basic bitchness, but that she's just a girl, you know?
- [30:37]
Taylor
Yeah.
- [30:38]
Amanda Hirsch
And a relatable one at times. And just so. Because I feel like in a lot of interviews she would come across like a little, you know.
- [30:48]
Taylor
Yeah.
- [30:49]
Amanda Hirsch
She wasn't giving her full self.
- [30:52]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [30:52]
Amanda Hirsch
And I just felt like I got to see some of that and people that listen got to. So that was a really. That was a really cool moment. And it's one of those people that you would never think, like, for sure. How would she come about? Like, she doesn't. What?
- [31:07]
Amanda
Yeah, well, it was. It was cool because when. When you were like posting clips of it, Taylor. Taylor came to me and he was just giving you compliments because of how obviously he knows Kristen. And I mean, you can tell the story.
- [31:22]
Taylor
But no, I mean, she. You kind of just said it. I was like, I almost was, like feeling proud when I was watching the clips and listening to the episode. Because that side of Kristen. I know, but I know so many people. You don't. And she doesn't show that side to many people. So the fact that she felt comfortable enough to get in front of a camera.
- [31:49]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [31:50]
Taylor
You know, and show that side of herself just really is a testament to you and how good you are at what you do and just who you are as a person. But I was like, I wanted to start crying, like, watching her be her true self.
- [32:05]
Amanda Hirsch
She really was. And that's what, you know, not her just being this, like, fucking star and cool and beautiful, but it was really that, like, me knowing what she put out there that I'm like, wait, am I going to be able to, like, get. Get her, you know, like this more playful side, you know, and she is, oh, my God, obsessed. Like, I am forever a fan, forever, like thankful, you know, like, that she gave me the opportunity. And by the way, perfect timing for me because it was when where you been? Loca was really fucking going viral.
- [32:40]
Amanda
Oh, yes.
- [32:41]
Amanda Hirsch
It was that time. So I was like, where you been, loca? And she could have been like, oh, like, who cares about us? But she was so into it. She thought it was so funny. She, like, remembered the day. She, like, remembered other. And she's not like, oh, I can't talk about Twilight. That's so, you know, she's just so cool. Like a thousand million. Bow down to her.
- [33:04]
Amanda
We love Kristen. Okay. On the. On the other side of things, who. Who's been like, Your least favorite guest. We can bleep it out.
- [33:12]
Taylor
Lol.
- [33:13]
Amanda
I'm just, if she has, if she happens to have one that she's like.
- [33:17]
Taylor
Going to say it out loud, I'm.
- [33:19]
Amanda
Going to bleep it.
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- [33:20]
Taylor
Okay, great.
- [33:23]
Amanda
I literally have no clue who that is.
- [33:24]
Amanda Hirsch
You don't know her.
- [33:25]
Taylor
No.
- [33:26]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. Bleep it out. Yeah. There were just not a vibe. Listen, you guys know this. As podcast hosts, looking them up, you can't always have a vibe.
- [33:36]
Taylor
Yeah, yeah.
- [33:37]
Amanda Hirsch
You can try to have one. Yeah, really. And put in all the effort in the world, which I will always do. And the only way I will ever be like upset with me is if I feel like I didn't put in everything. Right. But listen, there can be times where you're gonna put in everything and the guests will give nothing.
- [33:56]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [33:57]
Amanda Hirsch
And that, that can happen. And, and it happens. Like not every show is the best show. But I feel like with me, as long as I know that I tried my best, you know, then I feel, then I feel good about it.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
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- [37:36]
Amanda
Okay, let's talk about motherhood because I was actually, I feel like us talking to you was very timely with what I've been like thinking and dealing with. Obviously we do not have children at.
- [37:46]
Amanda Hirsch
This moment, but that's would be such good parents.
- [37:50]
Amanda
Thank you. But that's clearly like, that's very near like in the future thing for us. And something that I've been struggling with a little bit is like having. I've been apprehensive to have a kid because I feel like it's going to like stop things that I'm doing or it's just gonna change my career and work. And when I grew up I always wanted to just be a mom. Like that was like what I wanted and I didn't know that I like could have a passion like for a career like this. And now that I do have it, I'm like anxious about having kids and not kind of like Disrupting it. But were you. Did you struggle with that at all or, like, what. How did you know, like, you guys were ready to have kids?
- [38:40]
Amanda Hirsch
Well, do you know my merch? You can be a mom and still be a dumb bitch. I have merch like that. I can send you one when you have a baby.
- [38:48]
Amanda
Right. Thank you.
- [38:49]
Amanda Hirsch
But that came out of exactly what you were saying is, like, the fear of, if I become a mom, I'm not gonna, like, be who I am. I'm not gonna be able to do this thing and, like, be at the summer I turned pretty premiere. Cause, like, I have a baby. Or, like, I can't care about Jeremiah because, like, I'm a mom or. So that's where the, like, dumb comes from. Because, like, I'll. I'll talk about the career in a second. But I just feel like in that sense, like, people think that you really lose that side of you, and all of a sudden you're like a Karen or something, you know? Like, I feel like that's our perception. Like, and then you're a mom and you're, like, in a minivan and you're. And I feel like that's just, like, such an outdated way to think about it. Because, like, you can be a mom, still be into, like, the dumb shit that you're into, still be into your hobbies, your interests, your partner. Like, like, the only. Tons of shit changes. Like, your world turns upside down, Lots of responsibility and everything. But you can still be the person that you were. You're just now a mom. And in the career sense, like, I was the same. Because, like I said before, like, it was 2020. I was 32, and I kept on delaying it. Like, my husband would be like, so, like, when? And I would be like, oh, like, maybe when we're back from blah, blah, blah. Or maybe. And then he would be like, what's going on? And I would say the career thing, too. Like, I haven't. This was before kind of things started taking off.
- [40:21]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [40:21]
Amanda Hirsch
And I was like, things haven't taken off. Like, I'm. I'm trying to do this thing. And, like, how am I gonna do this thing if I'm pregnant? And I feel like so many people will tell me, like, wait, why can't you do it if you're pregnant? And I. Then I didn't really have an answer to it. You know, it was like, oh, I guess I can do it pregnant. You know? Like, why can't I interview people pregnant? Like, why can't I post content pregnant? Why can't I recap shows pregnant. Because at that time I was looking at the pregnancy. I like to take things like step by step, you know, And I was like, oh, I can. And then it was kind of like a self talk situation of waiting. I'm not saying have a kid irresponsibly when nothing in your life has worked out.
- [41:06]
Taylor
Yeah.
- [41:07]
Amanda Hirsch
But if you're like, I looked at the list of like, I'm in a loving and committed relationship. We are financially stable. Right. Like, we were working, we were able to pay rent, blah, blah, blah. Like, I'm mentally okay. Because that was another important thing. Because there were times in my life where my anxiety wasn't good, Right. So I wouldn't try to get pregnant when I'm having anxiety attacks every day. So I would look at like those metrics, right? And then if the last metric was like, am I a super successful, like, fucking star? You know?
- [41:42]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [41:43]
Amanda Hirsch
And that's the only thing that isn't checked off, then three out of four, you know what I mean? Like, that's how I kind of looked at it. And then I was actually proven the opposite because literally the way I know when I, like, you know, whatever they call it, like, started making a living from it. Whatever was literally after Noah was born.
- [42:05]
Taylor
Yeah.
- [42:05]
Amanda Hirsch
So that's when things took off. Like, and, you know, 2020, he was born, started getting brand deals, Would like, set up my little thing and do a whole thing. Super postpartum Ian Gross. With a baby screaming in the back, like. And then like, mom content and all of that. Because, like, he's in it with me. I'm home with my baby. The baby's on the tit. The baby's in the thing. So it became kind of like part of the world. It didn't like, detract from the world. So I really feel like the three out of the four thing and that you could still do what you want to do. You know what I mean? I don't think. I think we're in a time where people where women are able to, like, have careers and have kids. You know what I mean? If you want to stay home for a while, stay home for a while. And if you want to go back to work after three months, six weeks, some, some, some celebs I talked to, they're like, yeah. And then we started filming. I'm like, six weeks after you gave birth. But it is, but, but like, first of all, with women, everything's possible. You know what I mean? But I would, I would believe in you that you're you'll be able to juggle it, and it'll be a huge change for you, and obviously, like, you need to be ready for it. But it is true what they say, that, like, you're never ready. Like, just totally, completely, without a doubt. Like, you felt when you were little, right? Because when you were little, you didn't have all these other thoughts. You just were like, oh, I want to be a mom. But, like, now you're like, but how am I gonna do this? And that? But, like, it'll be okay.
- [43:44]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [43:44]
Amanda Hirsch
Yeah.
- [43:45]
Amanda
Now I. I know now that I'm, like, actually ready because we had, like, a pregnancy scare at the beginning of the year, and, like, at night, I feel. Took a test, and I was negative. I was late. Took a couple tests, negative. Found out it was just, like, a hormonal thing. But the morning after I woke up, and, like, my first thought before I was, like, awake was that I was sad I wasn't pregnant. And I was like, oh, okay, she's ready. She can do this.
- [44:10]
Amanda Hirsch
Now. That is. That is a good little test. Yeah. Good. Oh, my God. I'm gonna be so excited for you guys when it happens.
- [44:16]
Amanda
I know. For now, we just have our. Our dog. Babies. Some.
- [44:20]
Amanda Hirsch
Oh, my God. I've kind of turned on my dog, which, like, I hope other people.
- [44:24]
Amanda
I've actually heard that a lot. A lot. I have a girlfriend that got rid of her dogs after she had kids.
- [44:29]
Amanda Hirsch
So I will be honest. Like, I had judged people that had done that before I had kids. Now, I wouldn't personally give my dog away. He's also, like, old, but. And we've been through so much, but the relationship changed. It's kind of like. It was kind of like. I know that sounds so harsh, but I'm just telling the truth. Like, it's kind of like a falling out of love. Like, it's like, I love him, but I'm not in love with him. Like, I know it's so sad, but I used to come.
- [44:56]
Amanda
Taylor's gonna start crying right now. He loves our dogs. Literally petting her right down here.
- [45:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay. But mine is a little shih tzu. So, like, I don't know what you have, but shih tzus are a little annoying.
- [45:08]
Taylor
Got it. Yeah. Not a shih tzu.
- [45:10]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, mine is in, like, a lab or, like, one of those. You know what I mean?
- [45:13]
Taylor
Yeah, yeah. No, ours is human. Like, she's half Belgian Malinois. Her other half is German shepherd husky cattle dog. So she's very, very smart.
- [45:23]
Amanda Hirsch
So like, my shih tzu is like a shih tzu, you know? And, like, we've been through a lot, and he's with me for 13 years, and we used to make out on the mouth, and now I'm literally like, stop, Leo. You know what I mean? I know, but, you know, but here's the important thing. My husband still gives him tons of love.
- [45:46]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [45:47]
Amanda Hirsch
And. And. And thank God, because then I would be. If both of us felt that way, I would be like, oh, my God, I feel so bad. But he's still getting a lot of love from him. And. And that's just my truth. And I. And I'm more understanding of pet parents that had felt a certain way after kids or. But yeah. And it would just be interesting to understand, like, how does it happen to some people, you know, and not happen to other people? Like, I'd be interested to know, like, if the love stays for you, Taylor, for example, like, the exact same. Because I know it literally changed for me. It's not just like, oh, he's so annoying. He barks, which he does, and he'll wake up the baby, which he does. Yeah, but. But, yeah, it's a little.
- [46:31]
Taylor
Do the kids a little not love them.
- [46:33]
Amanda Hirsch
They, like, include him. They'll be like. And Leo, like, they're like, again, such a good. Not a lab. Again, not a lab. You know what I mean? Like, you pull his tail, he'll be like, you know what I mean? Like, it's an annoying shih tzu. Like, it's a different.
- [46:52]
Amanda
Fair enough.
- [46:52]
Amanda Hirsch
It's a different vibe.
- [46:53]
Amanda
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. Do you. Do you feel like you, like, experience.
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- [46:58]
Amanda
Like, that's what I'm like. I. I don't know. That's. I.
- [47:03]
Amanda Hirsch
Okay.
- [47:03]
Amanda
I clearly have a lot of, like, subconscious thoughts and fears of this.
- [47:06]
Amanda Hirsch
Like, you're worried about when I have a baby, and if I do tell myself it's okay to have a baby and work, will I feel bad?
- [47:13]
Amanda
Yeah. If I'm, like, prioritizing myself in a sense of. In a healthy way, that's when I'm scared of. Because I'm like, I want to have, like, I want to have things set into place because I know that I can get into unhealthy habits quick. So, like, I really want to have a night nurse because I know that I will, like, just become psychotic and never leave my baby's side. Like, I know that I can be psycho with things, so I want to, like, have these things, like, in place.
- [47:43]
Amanda Hirsch
So That's a night nurse is a motherfucking dream. Like, by the way, somebody had this idea, actually, the night nurse that I had. So here's the thing. Personally, my experience was because with Noah, my life was so different then that, like, raw dogged it with Noah. Okay, that doesn't sound good. Sound good now. Raw dogged with Noah. Like, was in the trenches with Noah. Like, lived it, breathed it, was mommy all day. Like, that's one experience, right? Didn't have any help. And then I had my second kid, Lenny, and hired a nanny from the beginning, did a little bit of a night nurse. And I'm experiencing this other way of raising a kid. And speaking of mom guilt, at the beginning, I'd feel guilty about that. Like, wait, Lenny isn't getting the same that Noah got, You know, like, Noah got all of me. And then I think when I talked to a lot of people that made me feel better about. It was kind of like, first of all, of course it's not going to be the same. Like, the year is different. You had Noah in Covid. Like, yeah, your life is different. Your job is different. Like, it's always going to be different with every kid. Like, you can't give them the same exact thing. And, like, not one is, like, better than the other. Worse than the other. But let me tell you what's better than. Than waking up. Not waking up. Like, that's for sure better. That's for sure. And I was the type of girl, like, I'm a breastfeeder. I'm a. Like, sleep next to me a tat. So for me, it was so weird to think about, wait, I'm breastfeeding. Like, why would I have a night nurse? You know? Like, it's for her to bring the baby. And then they're like, yeah, for her to bring the baby. Because not waking up, like, when you're a new mom, getting that extra, like, 25 minutes where, like, the night nurse, let's say, changes the baby for you, burps them after you're done feeding. Like, anything is helpful at the beginning because it's so motherfucking hard that if you can afford help, like, integrate that in your life in a way that works for you. Like, recommended. What I was gonna say is this night nurse that I had for a couple weeks told me that if she has another baby and instead of having a registry, she's gonna have like a kind of like a. Like a money collection pot for a night nurse for her. Because what better gift to a new mom than like getting some motherfucking sleep. That's a great idea. If any, anyone wants to get a new mom, like get some girls together, pitch in for a night nurse for like a week, literally anything is helpful. But in terms of mom guilt. Yeah, any mom will tell you, say that like always and forever. Like, it's not like a bad thing to have. I feel like it also keeps you balanced. Right? Like a little bit of mom guilt is okay. If you're having too much, like, okay, then maybe you kind of started balancing things out a little bit better. But I think every mom will tell you that it never ends and you're always going to. Even about the smallest thing. Like, we taught Noah to ride a bike. It was so beautiful. He did it so quick. And still I'm like, wait, I should have started him on the balance bike. Because then he would have had his balance and then he would have done it. And then it's like, girl, he's riding a bike. Like, what does it matter that you didn't do the balance bike?
- [51:05]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [51:05]
Amanda Hirsch
So we're always hard on ourselves. We're always second guessing and trying to do our best. But that just shows that you're like a good mom and that you care.
- [51:12]
Amanda
Yeah. Okay. Okay, that makes me feel better. Did you struggle with postpartum at all?
- [51:17]
Amanda Hirsch
Luckily, no. But I was also on Zoloft throughout my pregnancies, both of them. So I don't know if that saved me or I just wasn't prone to that kind of, of mental health issue. But I'm so thankful. Thankful because I know how people struggle and I can't imagine on top of everything you're feeling because even if you don't have postpartum depression, yeah, you have postpartum, which is like crazy on its own. Like, you're a lunatic. Your hormone hormones are insane. Like, literally. Boyte, take cover like wild. Get ready and accept and like, get a, like get your. Get your boxing, like, defenses up. But. So I can't imagine what women that go through postpartum depression feel. And I just would say, like, treat it because it's. I can't imagine going through that when you're dealing with postpartum. But luckily I didn't. Thank God. And I don't know again if it was because I stayed on my meds throughout my pregnancy or what kind of helped that. But just for people listening, like, check with your doctor, obviously, if you want to stay on medication during pregnancy. I checked with mine and it worked for me. Thank God.
- [52:33]
Amanda
How long have you been On Zoloft or medication, I guess.
- [52:37]
Amanda Hirsch
So here's the thing. When I studied abroad In Barcelona in 2009, I got my first panic attack and didn't know that it was that. Didn't accept that it was that obviously thought that I was, like, dying. Heart attack. All the things that. All the CTs, all the. Because, like, who would accept that it's just a mental thing and not your body just betraying you? But. And then I was prescribed it, but I was, like, so against it. I was like, ew, me, an antidepressant to me, carefree, like, you know, whatever, Amanda. So I had a really, like, complicated relationship with it for years. And I, like, weaned myself off, like, against my doctor's kind of orders, because I was, like, so disgusted that I would need this kind of thing. And then years later, like, I was talking about. And then anxiety, by the way, ebbs. It flows, right? So I had years where I was fine, and then a year where. So the year that I was talking to you guys about when I started my Instagram, because I was going through a rough patch, is when it was so debilitating that it was kind of like, sos. Like, I think that people will know when they get to that point of. Yoga won't help. Breathing won't help. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm not saying at that point that I thought I would be on it forever, but at that point, it was like, something needs to, like, yeah, we need to get something in here, because deep breaths are not gonna be it.
- [54:04]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [54:05]
Amanda Hirsch
So that was 2015 when I got back on it. 2015. So now it's been, like, 10 years, and I'm on, like, the lowest dose. And I actually, before I got pregnant with Noah, tried to get off of it because of me. Like, the doctor said it was okay, but I was like, let me just try to be, like, not have anything in my body for this pregnancy. And again, you can't know if it's, like, placebo effect, the fact that, you know. But it, like, didn't work for me. Like, I felt like I'm just getting anxious again. I'm gonna be anxious that I'm getting anxious again. Like, whatever was I was trying to do, like, kind of defeat the purpose. And then I was like, listen, healthy mom, healthy baby, gotta do what you gotta do and hope for the best. Because the way they put it, like, the doctors, is like, we don't test these things on pregnant women. Obviously. We're not, like, doing a focus group. And but they believe that, like, you know, there are certain medications that have been. That moms that have been on it, you know, like, anyway, yeah, it turned out to be fine. And that basically the benefit outweighs the risk is at the end of the day, what the doctors say. So it was like, how are you going to be pregnant and have a baby if you can't function? Yeah, function to, like, do those things. So it's been a while now, and now my relationship with it is so positive. It's like, cutie, you know, like, love it. Thank you. Thank you for being a med, you know, and just like, a. A diabetes med can help someone.
- [55:42]
Amanda
Yeah.
- [55:43]
Amanda Hirsch
Or whatever your issue is. Yeah, that can help.
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Amanda
I love. I love that. I love that parallel because, yeah, I. I do think that if you are struggling and you're interested in medication, making sure you're trying, you know, other things before making sure, you know, you're actually drinking water or you're moving your body, like, making sure that there's, like, your basic needs are met. And if you still need a little more help, you have to look at it the same way as, like, a heart medication or you're a diabetic and you need that.
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Amanda Hirsch
By the way, it's also not a magic pill. Like, it's not like. Like, you do have to do all that work also. You know what I mean? You do have to do all that work also. Like, go to therapy, move your body, like, do all the things. Because if not, then it's. I don't think it's going to work entirely as well as it could, but I think it will definitely helps give that push of, like, being able to, like, get yourself out of the house if that's what you're struggling to do, you know what I mean? And then take on the day, but knock on wood, I feel great. And. But you never know with anxiety. It could come. It could be around the corner. You know what I mean? You just gotta be like, you know what I. This is the scene I envision all the time. What's her name? Julie, from I know what you did last summer. What are you waiting for? You know what I mean?
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, that's me, like, knows he's gonna come at some point. Don't know when.
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
What are you waiting for?
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Amanda
That's good.
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Amanda Hirsch
Come and get me.
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Amanda
My next question, like, about motherhood, parenthood, is how. How did it change, like, you and your husband's relationship and how do you guys, like, prioritize time alone and even just time to yourself?
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Amanda Hirsch
As well.
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Amanda
Alone time and time together.
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Amanda Hirsch
It is hard. That part is hard. I will say that part is hard because it takes such a blow. Like, you really have to have a strong ass. Partnership and friendship when you have kids with somebody. Which, like, luckily we did have. Like, we were together. Today is our actually 10 year wedding anniversary. 15 years together. So. But again, even with that strong foundation, everything, it takes a hit because, like, he's not your number one on those first days at all. You know what I mean? And then you have to kind of like reintroduce him being like in the top two. You're before Leo. Okay, but you really have to. That's the shit. It's clocking to you. That's the shit. Celia, say thank you. You're before Leo. No, but it really is like, it takes a hit. You're not sleeping. Your life has completely changed. Instead of like being together all weekend just thinking about what restaurant to go to brunch at, you're with a baby all day crying, no, give me the diaper. You. And you didn't wake up. You didn't wake up. So, like, as much as you can, like, be understanding of each other, even, like, set expectations.
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Taylor
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
From each other, of each other. Like, make a. Whatever can help you, like, not snap. Because it's such, it's such like, high stakes when you first have a baby. Like, and of course then you get into like a rhythm, right? And like, everyone knows. But it is, it does take, like, let's focus on this and not let us get lost in the way. Because it's really easy to just focus on the kid. Give it your all. And you're like, wait, like, there's us, like, also before. So us. Like, luckily we had a really good, like, foundation of being like, friends. Like best friends, support systems for each other. We're also a couple that, like, we're together a lot. And we're one of those, which I think you guys are too. Like, we're not one of those couples that, like, everyone has their own life. We meet at night maybe. And like, yeah, we're not used to, like, high stakes situations or seeing each other at the worst. Like, we're together a lot. Like, we can live together, work together. Like, so. But it's still. Again, like, I. I remember in the first days I was complaining about him so much. Like, people were like, you need to get the book how to not hate your husband after having kids. And like, there is a book like that. Oh, there's a book like that. Because it's such a common thing because you give birth, it's all you, right? No matter how helpful you are, how supportive you are, you're dealing with a pregnancy. You're pushing out that baby. You're dealing with your postpartum body. You're like. And at the end of the day, like, you're the mom. So, like, you're the mom. Like, the husband can help as much as they want, and they can. And even if they're 50. 50, like, the mom's more like, the mom's more. Like, if they're breastfeeding, it's like a. It's. It's different. So you can build up resentment. So it's just really important to, like, keep an eye on those things and, like, not let it get away from you.
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Taylor
I need to be prepared with that book for you.
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Amanda
Yeah, you do. You read it to me at night.
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Taylor
Read it, too.
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Amanda
I think that's why I'm like. I am. I think that's also why I am apprehensive to have kids, because I love. Like, we are best friends. Like, we spend so much time together. And so, like, I. I know that that's gonna change. So I think that's why I'm also, like, a little, like, oh, but, like.
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Amanda Hirsch
But that's so good. But that means that, like, your relationship, like, means so much to you and that you will, like, prioritize it.
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Amanda
Taylor's one of the people that's like, do you still love me? I'm like, yes. Taylor asked me that quite often. No, me. But I love you for it. Okay, last question I have for you, and then we can let you get back to your mom duties. I want to know, because I feel like we don't ask ourselves this question a lot, but I would love for you to answer what you're most proud of yourself for.
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Amanda Hirsch
I feel like I boasted on myself a lot in this episode. So, like, we can just clip. Just clip.
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Taylor
She's like, can you take out some of the other stuff? If you want to keep this one.
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Amanda Hirsch
In, Just pretend like, I was really humble the entire time. And then, you know what I mean? You know, going to the mom stuff, back to the mom stuff, and is really, like, making it work in this. Like, which I've been told it seems effortless to some people. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, and so effortless. Like, you're doing this, you're doing that, you're doing that. But, like, I'm telling you, there is no better feeling than like, being able to do what you do. Love it. Come home, have a little person that loves you, run up to you and, like, hug you and kiss you and get the best of, like, those both worlds.
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
Like, to me, that's, like. I always think about life as, like, the circle of life. Kind of like you have your.
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Amanda
Your.
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Amanda Hirsch
Your partner, like, your loved one, and you have your friends and you have your family, and you have your job, and then you have, like, your kids. Like, that's how I think about it. So to me, it's just, like, complete. You know what I mean?
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Amanda
Yeah.
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Amanda Hirsch
So I'm so proud of myself that, like, I made that work and that, like, I feel like it's not, like, a heavy lift for me. Like, it just happens in this, like, really natural, beautiful way where I get to do what I love. I get to come home to the people I love, and, like, there's just no better feeling in the world for me. Yeah, I love it.
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Taylor
No.
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Amanda
Okay, I guess I'm excited now. I can.
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Amanda Hirsch
She's like, get me pregnant tonight.
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Taylor
Let's get to work.
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Amanda
I know. I know. We. We do need it. We didn't need to. We didn't need to chat about. I just saw my gynecologist this last week, and she was like, you're still not pregnant. And I was like, sorry.
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Taylor
Oh, my gosh.
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Amanda Hirsch
Wait. Can I tell you guys the funniest story? And then you can cut me off, so. I don't even know if I want another kid, okay? I really don't. And the other night, my husband. I were getting it on, okay? And then he was, like, got scared all of a sudden that, like, I might get pregnant. I was like, wait, let me check my app. Like, so sexy, right? I'm like, hold on. I go into my flow app. I, like, pull it up, and it says, like. It says, like, ovulating in six days. Like, high chances, though. Like, I guess before. And then all of a sudden, my brain is like, amanda, didn't you read about, like, a few days before? Means it's a girl. Means you can have a girl. Like, I read that, and then I'm like, but if we do it now, it's a girl. And he's like, what are you actually talking about? And I was like, no, no. But, like, I'm not. But, like, it says, like. And I read that it could be a girl. And he's like, we are not having the discussion to if. To have another baby, like, right now in this moment. Thank you. And also, he was like, I didn't even know you were thinking that. I was like, tbh. Like, I didn't even know. Like, I'm just such a, like, numbers girl that the minute, like, I looked in my app, saw the number, remembered the data, it would almost be, for me is like, kind of like a test to, like, succeed at, you know? Like, I listened to the instructions. It said a few days before. It was six days before, like. And he was like, can we talk about this at another time? And I was like, you're a pussy. Just saying. Anyway, not a great.
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Amanda
I'll remember that moving forward.
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Amanda Hirsch
Check. Girlies, I love you. Thank you for having me. You know what? It was important to me. Like, I wanted to do your show, but I was like, we need to do it in person. But then I was like, fine.
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Taylor
Here's the thing. Here's the good news. Let's make a deal. We'll do yours again in person. And then the next time you do ours again, we'll be in person.
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Amanda Hirsch
Deal? Deal. Okay, Perfect.
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Taylor
Thank you so much. Love you, Manda.
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Amanda Hirsch
Thank you. I love you guys.
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Amanda
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