Ciara Miller: Knowing When to Walk Away

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Squeeze

Episode: Ciara Miller: Knowing When to Walk Away
Date: February 18, 2026
Host: Taylor Lautner (joined by co-host, husband Taylor Lautner)
Guest: Ciara Miller (Nurse, Reality TV personality from Summer House and The Traitors)

---

Overview

This episode of The Squeeze dives deep into the intersections of mental health, nursing, and reality television with guest Ciara Miller. Ciara openly discusses her experiences as an ICU nurse during COVID-19 and as a reality TV star, the toll these roles have taken on her mental wellness, and her personal journey toward self-acceptance and healing. The conversation blends light-hearted camaraderie with raw honesty about burnout, online hate, therapy, and learning when to step away for the sake of mental health.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Ciara’s Early Influences and Reality TV Journey

• Turning 30 & Reflecting on Beginnings
  (00:01) Ciara discusses coming to terms with turning 30 and looking back on starting Summer House at age 24, calling it "highly intimidating" but formative.

  • “I can't believe I was 24 when I filmed my first season.” – Ciara

• Transition to Reality TV
  (16:58 – 19:14) Ciara describes the adjustment from nursing to reality television and how unscripted reality TV is, despite common misconceptions.

  • “If it was fake and like, we were scripted, that would be so much easier for me. ...We're actually all genuinely nuts.” – Ciara (18:25)

2. Behind the Scenes on The Traitors

• Joining the Show Unprepared
  (06:18) Ciara was cast for The Traitors on short notice and went in mostly blind, without a strategy, unlike many “gamer” castmates.

  • “Had I known that people had these Personas and these like big... I would have put on a Persona. I was just myself.” – Ciara (06:56)

• Trust and Paranoia in Game Play
  (11:25) The intensity of the competition made it difficult to trust anyone, even after returning to her original Summer House cast.

  • “I just, like, don't trust anyone right now. Not even my own cast mates that I filmed with for the past five seasons.” – Ciara

• Memorable Moments: Bug Challenges
  (12:38) Ciara recounts enduring genuine bug challenges on The Traitors and admits to keeping her eyes shut the entire time due to fear.

3. Nursing, Burnout, and COVID-19

• ICU Ambitions & Challenges
  (30:07) Determined to start in ICU against "everyone's advice," Ciara relished the fast pace and challenge but was quickly thrown into the deep end by the pandemic.

  • “All my teachers in nursing school were like, you won't be able to start in the ICU. And I was like, okay, watch me.” – Ciara (30:07)

• Pandemic Experiences & Burnout
  (32:23) The realities of COVID-19, death, and emotional toll led her to take multiple breaks from bedside nursing and ultimately step away.

  • “It was just such a gruesome death that I was like, this is so nuts. ...I think I'm done with Bedside, you know, Just because I did it. I did my time at Bedside, but I'm like, I think there's a purpose for me outside of Bedside still in the nursing world.” – Ciara (34:15-35:44)

• Impact on Mental Health
  Both Taylor and Ciara reflect on how night shift, trauma, and pandemic chaos contributed to prolonged anxiety and even dissociation.

4. Mental Health: Coping, Therapy, and Medication

• Struggles with Anxiety and Isolation
  (43:31) Ciara shares her tendency toward isolation and how anxiety kept her from fully enjoying life, even when achieving goals she'd wished for.

  • “I'm like a isolationist. Like. Got it. Sit rot. Not leave my house. Hate social situations. Like, couldn't be social. ...Just anxiety, too.” – Ciara

• Therapy and Ketamine Treatment
  (41:15) She briefly tried ketamine-assisted therapy and found it fast-paced and intense, leading her eventually to talk therapy and EMDR.

  • “Ketamine therapy... it's fast moving, but you got to really release control to do it. You got to surrender.” – Ciara (40:45)

• Prozac & Medication Acceptance
  (43:13) After various holistic and therapeutic attempts, Ciara started Prozac and found major improvement.

  • “I'm on Prozac. Newly. Well, I've been on Prozac for like a year now. And it's amazing... Why did I ever raw dog this life.” – Ciara (43:13-43:22)

• Speaking Up About Medication
  Taylor (host) and Ciara both stress that medication is valid, but encourage listeners to cover basics like sleep, nutrition, and self-care first.

5. Navigating Online Hate & Setting Boundaries

• Handling Criticism and Negativity
  (21:29) Ciara avoids toxic online spaces (Reddit, Twitter), uses muting/blocking online, and protects her mental health by not reading comments.
  • “When I want to cr—cry, when I want to like, really hurt myself potentially, I'll go to Reddit, but like, typically not in the mood for that.” – Ciara (21:48)

6. Rapid-Fire Insights: The Lemon7 Segment (46:09)

• Mental Health Soundtrack:
  “Pretty much any song off Justin Bieber's album is Me... It carries me.” – Ciara (46:31)
• How Open Are You?
  “Probably a 6. Because here's the thing: I'm probably gonna cry about it first, and then...open up about it.” – Ciara (46:59)
• Favorite Self-Care:
  “Sitting, laying, rotting. I love it. Like, I can just be home in my space, take a bath, do whatever.” – Ciara (49:13)
• Most Misunderstood Thing:
  “Tough exterior, crybaby. ...I literally cry all the time at everything.” – Ciara (49:50)
• Who Most Impacted Your Mental Health:
  “Honestly, I'm going to say myself. ...I've really kind of had to do a lot of it myself and kind of figure it out on my own.” – Ciara (52:04)
• Advice to Younger Self:
  “I definitely would tell myself to believe in yourself a little more...But I don't think I would go back and change anything necessarily.” – Ciara (53:36)

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We're not scripted. We're actually all genuinely nuts.” – Ciara (18:25)
• “Why did I ever raw dog this life?” – Ciara, about why she waited to take Prozac (43:22)
• “I don't go on Reddit...when I want to cry, when I want to like really hurt myself potentially, I'll go to Reddit...” – Ciara (21:29)
• “People rip you apart for, like, your decisions in a one hour episode, you know? Which isn't like a true reflection of my life...” – Ciara (19:22)
• “It's not that serious. The stakes are so different these days.” – Ciara (51:26)
• “I feel like you get to the point where you're at because of all the things.” – Ciara (53:36)

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:01–01:34: Ciara on life at 30, Summer House reflections
• 03:15–05:27: Nurse-to-nurse bonding, night shift woes
• 06:18–12:45: Behind the scenes on The Traitors, trust, and bug challenges
• 16:46–23:20: Reality TV adjustments, handling social media & online hate
• 29:36–36:16: Ciara’s nursing background, COVID-19 trauma, and burnout
• 40:20–45:27: EMDR, ketamine therapy, Prozac, mental health strategies
• 46:09–53:36: Lemon7 rapid-fire questions (self-care, openness, misunderstood traits, advice to self)

---

Overall Tone & Takeaways

The episode mixes humor (“Why did I ever raw dog this life?”) with deeply sincere reflections on trauma, burnout, and healing. Both Taylor and Ciara vulnerably share their journeys through the medical field, pandemic, and public scrutiny, emphasizing that resilience and self-compassion are essential—sometimes medication, rest, and retreat are legitimately the best way forward.

For listeners seeking honest conversations about burnout, boundaries, and embracing the messy parts of being both a caretaker and in the public eye, this episode delivers empathy, candidness, and actionable insight.

---

Transcript

[Sierra Miller]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production. I'm on Prozac for, like, a year now, and it's amazing. I'm like, why did I ever raw dog this life? Okay, what are you gonna say? We're not scripted. We're actually all genuinely nuts. They're like, how much of it is real? How much of it is fake? And I'm like, it's all real. I just turned 30. I was a baby. I can't believe I was 24 when I filmed my first season.

[Host 1]

What can fans expect to see season 10?

[Sierra Miller]

We feel like I have. It's, like, a big milestone season.

[Host 1]

I want to talk about traitors.

[Sierra Miller]

I hate bugs. I would watch it and I would be like, I knew I was there. But, like, what actually? What happens?

[Host 2]

What did I do?

[Sierra Miller]

People would ask me what my strategy was, and I was like, I don't have a Strategy. We're under 247 surveillance when we're in the house. So, like, you forget things. I mean, like, I don't go on Reddit.

[Host 1]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Sierra Miller]

Reddit is like, it's too much.

[Host 1]

Oh, my gosh. We get to talk.

[Sierra Miller]

Yes. All my teachers in nursing school were like, you won't be able to start in the icu. And I was like, okay, watch me. It's crazy how night shift screws your, like, circadian rhythms up so much.

[Host 1]

That is, like, a big part of, like, why I struggled so much. Yeah, my ment because I was just working nights that whole time.

[Sierra Miller]

Tough exterior. Crybaby. People think that, like, I'm not, like, a feeler, but I literally cry all the time at everything. I would definitely tell myself to believe in myself a little more, you know, But I don't think I would go back and change anything necessarily.

[Host 2]

Okay, lemon drops, how are we doing? We're halfway through our week. Hope it's going well. Let's keep pushing through.

[Host 1]

We are almost there.

[Host 2]

It's nice and rainy where I am.

[Host 1]

I know half of this country is probably like, it's not nice and rainy.

[Host 2]

Because you're probably just in freezing cold weather. But we finally are getting some rain here in California, which is very nice and cozy. But anyways, this episode today I am so excited about because I have actually been a fan of our guest for quite some time, Ms. Sierra Miller. You may know her from Summer House or her season of Traitors. I was first introduced to Sierra on Traitor Season 3, and I just loved her.

[Host 1]

I love her personality.

[Host 2]

I love her style. I just felt like I really vibed with her and it makes sense because she is actually a nurse. As you can imagine, in this episode, we dive into all things summer House, all things traders, and especially into her. Her nursing career. We bonded over all things nursing, over icu, working through Covid, and we really got deep with both of our stories. And honestly was so refreshing.

[Host 1]

Cause I feel like I haven't had.

[Host 2]

Nurse to nurse conversation in a while, so that was so fun to have. We also dive into Sierra's mental health, what it's been like for her being a reality TV personnel and how that has affected her mental health, what it's been like to experience online. Hate how she sets boundaries with it. She also opens up about recently starting Prozac and how that has just changed her life. I loved her and we just had the best time.

[Host 1]

I feel like it was the perfect combination of girl chat yappy to also deep, heartfelt conversation.

[Host 2]

And I can't wait for you guys to hear it. I hope you enjoy. Well, Sierra, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, my God. Thanks for having me.

[Host 1]

I'm so excited because I feel like we randomly have a lot in common with nursing background.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, no, I literally said the same thing. I was like, that's so interesting. She's nursing background. We're both.

[Host 1]

Yeah. You know, I'm excited to dive into that. But we start first or we start.

[Host 2]

Each episode off with this jar. It's a little game called Citrus got Real.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay.

[Host 2]

I'm gonna pull a little piece of paper out of there and read it to our lemon drops.

[Host 1]

Those are our.

[Host 2]

Our lovely listeners.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay. Are you an early bird or a night owl? I'm the night owl. Like, I am watching the gates at night. Like, 2am, 3am I feel like I come alive. I have the best ideas, and I want to be a morning person so bad.

[Host 1]

When do you wake up in the morning?

[Sierra Miller]

Like, 10:30, 11? Because I'm up so late.

[Host 1]

Because you're up so late.

[Sierra Miller]

But, like, I'm trying to. Yeah. Be a morning person. I, like, just turned 30, and I'm like, I can't wait to start waking up at, you know, the crack of dawn for no reason. It hasn't happened yet, but I'm.

[Host 1]

I'm the opposite.

[Sierra Miller]

You're a morning person?

[Host 1]

Yeah. I, like, just. I wake up and I'm, like, ready to go.

[Sierra Miller]

I'm. No. I'm like, I need at least two hours to, like, get my life in order to get my thoughts right. I can't just, like, an alarm is not good.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I snooze it.

[Host 1]

Yeah. I don't know what it is. My husband is not. He's the opposite of me.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And that's always like the biggest fight in our marriage is I'm like, 10pm Come. Why? And I'm like, okay, let's lay down one more episode.

[Host 2]

Because he.

[Host 1]

I don't know what your thought thoughts are on this, but he's a.

[Host 2]

No.

[Host 1]

Like, TV or movie in bed.

[Host 2]

I think casinos.

[Host 1]

I'll fall asleep. But we watch everything on the couch and then I go into bed.

[Sierra Miller]

I believe in doing everything in bed. Like.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Eating.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Watching tv, everything. But I do love a couch situation.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

As well.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I feel like your couch should be an extension of the bed. It should be comfortable. I don't believe in, like, designer couches that are, like, for show.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

It has to be.

[Host 1]

No.

[Sierra Miller]

Super deep.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

We have to lounge. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Especially I have two dogs. I don't know if you have pets, but Yeah.

[Advertiser/Voiceover]

I.

[Host 1]

There's no, like, nice couch because we just let. We have two. They're two big dogs and we just let them. Like rum.

[Sierra Miller]

Exactly. Yeah. No, I have a cat and he's Scratches.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

You can everything. So, I mean, it's. I mean, he has his own scratch post, but, you know.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

No, you can't really tell a cat.

[Host 1]

They never do the scratch post. They literally do everything else.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, but that. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Okay. I want to talk about Traders, because. Are you watching the season?

[Sierra Miller]

Okay, I'm not watching this season, but, like, I. I've been keeping up with it on threads and just like, I haven't had the time because I like to binge watch something, like, all at once.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Sierra Miller]

Because I feel that I'm like, I don't want to be on a cliffhanger.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Because even when I was on my season, I. It's. I would watch it and I would be like, I know I was there. But like, what actually, what happens? What did I do?

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's so funny. How did you seen the show before? When you got cast for it, did you then, like, start doing your research?

[Sierra Miller]

Well, I tried to. I didn't watch before. My manager called me. He was like, so do you want to go to Scotland in four days for Traders? And I was like, like, Matt, I don't know. I was like, I've never even seen the show. I start watching an episode and then I like, down. Then I'm like, trying to get ready for. Then I download it all. Because I was like, maybe I'll just watch it on the plane on the way to Scotland.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I didn't download it. Right. So then I didn't even really get to see like.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Good number of episodes before being thrown into it because, like they take your phones and everything. And so I kind of just had to wing it. But like, had I known that people like had these Personas and these like big. Yeah. Like it was an acting gig, basically, I would have put on a Persona. I was just myself and I was like, this is. I think I played the game all wrong. I mean, I lasted a good time.

[Host 1]

But no, I feel like. I feel like you did good.

[Sierra Miller]

We're.

[Host 1]

We're re watching season three because I feel like, I feel like your season is kind of better than this season.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay. People have also.

[Host 1]

Yeah. It's been through the. Well, I think. I think it's two things. I think. One, I think your season had a lot more gamers on it.

[Sierra Miller]

A ton of gamers.

[Host 1]

I know, I know quite a few got voted off this season, like right off the bat, but I feel like they just had more like a lot more like Survivor people.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And there was just like almost half.

[Sierra Miller]

The cast was gamers. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

So I feel like that makes for like, good strategy.

[Sierra Miller]

It really does. Because people would ask me what my strategy was and I was like, I don't. I don't have a strategy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I was like, I didn't know people had a strategy. Like, when I was watching it back, I was like, I basically just showed up every day. I didn't know that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I was supposed to have this long drawn out plan. Yeah. And then I'm like watching the gamers work in real time and I'm like, I just don't know how to like. Yeah, I was like, the stakes aren't that high for me. I don't know. I. I'm like $200,000 was like, well, now if it's like, if multiple people win, then we have to split it. So I'm like, this isn't. Yeah. I might not win it anyway.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I know. I feel like it's that. And then also I like, I weirdly feel like the production is less like for this season.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, interesting.

[Host 1]

Like, I feel like they put a lot more of like, like world building. Like a lot. Honestly, a lot more B roll and like shots of like the traders all like going up to the turret or like even just like Alan and his dog like it. There's. There's a lot of like little shots that really like made you feel like you were like there. Like you castle in this space in this season, there's not that much of it.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, interesting. I wonder how. Probably depends on, like, how long. Like, they probably have so much content that they're trying to, like, squeeze in and so much story.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I can't even. But yeah. Yeah. I mean, love that our season was better, you know, I mean, I think.

[Host 1]

We also had fun because we're friends with Dylan, so we got to, like, watch it. And each week my husband was, like, texting him. Like, it's so funny. Like, because we. We do Mafia game nights and we play mafia.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay. And I didn't know what mafia was, but people.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Sierra Miller]

Very blind people were like, it's like, mafia. And I'm like, well, what's Mafia? And then after I get out, I'm like, okay, this is the exact same thing.

[Host 1]

Literally, we play it all the time. And so that's like. We really started watching less when season three started coming out.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

We've done, like, all of, like, the other ones.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like, obsessed.

[Sierra Miller]

You get hooked.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

It is, like, highly addicting, though. Yeah. But Dylan was like, no. Even in there. Dylan. I'm like. I'm like, do you have a strategy? I'm like, he was like, the nicest guy. I'm like. But then ends up winning. I'm like, of course. You know, I know. It's.

[Host 1]

It's so good. We played Mafia, like, over the holiday break with some friends, and we were cracking up because, like, I feel like we watched the show and they're like, it's so and so. And we're like, no, it's clearly not them. But because we have, like, that third person point of view.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

For the show. And then in real life, when we were like, I was playing the game with my friends at home, we, like, didn't, like, we would get it wrong all the time. Like, okay. I actually have more empathy.

[Sierra Miller]

It's so hard to tell when you're in there and people, like, give you such a hard time. I'm like, you don't understand. Like, we were in the car for, like, two hours together, just, like, shooting the shit, talking about whatever.

[Host 1]

A lot of downtime.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, you have a ton of downtime. Like, especially in between challenges. Yeah. So you're just, like, hanging out sometimes. Yeah. And so the more you're around someone, you're like, no way this person could be a traitor. And, you know, it's like, I was literally holding hands with Boston Rob, who.

[Host 1]

Was a traitor, but I'm like, well.

[Sierra Miller]

He got me through that challenge.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

No, Way. He's a traitor. Like, we didn't even have to hold hands for that long because Chrishell and Dolores got out immediately, so we, like, didn't need to even stick it out. But he was like, let's stick it out. Yeah. Yes.

[Host 1]

I was like, gotten back to that episode. Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I'm like. But I was like, no way. He's a traitor. Like, he really was fighting for that shield. So. Things change in the blink of an eye too. And I feel like there's so many walls in the house. It's so hard to tell, like, what is actually going down. Yeah, there's. There's a lot happening.

[Host 1]

Yeah. How are the bug challenges? Because I, like, I. They're like.

[Host 2]

They're all real.

[Sierra Miller]

And you're like, actually, yeah, I. I.

[Host 1]

Do you have a lack of fear now?

[Sierra Miller]

No, I hate bugs. And I. In my head, because the other team got out so fast, I was like, okay, we're good. We're done. We have shields. But then Boston Rob is just, like, another level of competitive. And I was like. And then the snake on my. And it's funny because I genuinely had my eyes closed the entire time, and I just had them shut. Couldn't see anything. Didn't want to open because the minute I saw something, I knew I would freak out. So I was like. When I. When it aired, I was watching it for the first time and I was like, is that what was in the box? That is terrifying and disgusting and. Oh, just, like, vile, you know?

[Host 1]

Oh, my gosh. Wait, that's crazy.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Oh, I. Yeah, that was.

[Sierra Miller]

No, it's not. Definitely. At least I didn't have to, like, eat bugs.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, that. I would. I'd bow out.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, I'm not. I can't do the eating challenges.

[Host 1]

No, I could not.

[Advertiser/Voiceover]

Lately, my life has felt like a constant juggling act. Between work, social plans, travel, trying to move my body and still show up for myself. There are so many days where my own health ends up taking a back seat. I'll look up and realize I've been running around all day, answering emails, hopping from one thing to the next, and haven't actually fueled myself in the way that feels good. And that's exactly where Premier Protein comes in for me. On those busy days when I need something quick, convenient, and actually satisfying, Premier Protein has become my go to. It's the kind of thing that I can grab without slowing down, but still feel good after choosing whether I'm heading out the door, need an afternoon boost, or just want something easy. That fits into my routine. It makes fueling myself feel simple instead of stressful. And honestly, it tastes amazing. I always keep the vanilla on hand. It's my favorite flavor and it makes it so easy to reach for something that I actually enjoy and look forward to having. What I also really appreciate is that Premier Protein fits into real life. It's not just for intense gym sessions or hardcore workout days. It's for everything you need fuel for. With 30 grams of protein and tons of delicious flavors, Premier protein isn't just for those who get after fitness, it's for those who get after life. It's for squeezing in a walk, showing up to a meeting, feeling ready, saying yes to plans with friends, winning game night, or even mastering a new recipe.

[Host 1]

For a dinner party.

[Advertiser/Voiceover]

That's why it feels like such an easy, smart choice. Find your favorite [e-mail] that's P R E M I E R P R O-T E I N.com or at Amazon, Walmart or other major retailers.

[Host 2]

It's 2026. Are we still pretending dry, scratchy toilet paper is the best we can do? Because I'm not. We recently made the switch to Good wipes and I genuinely will never go back. It's one of those little upgrades that instantly makes you feel more clean, more comfortable, and honestly more confident. Because think about it. Would you wash your hands without water? Would you take a shower without water? Exactly. So why are you still relying on dry toilet paper to do all the work? What I love about good wipes is they actually feel better. Super soft, extra large, and they're made for sensitive skin with clean ingredients so you're not dealing with that irritation some other wipes can cause. They come in a bunch of gentle scents like rose water, shea cocoa, lavender and botanical bliss. My favorite is the lavender. And if you have a family or you're traveling or you're just someone who wants to feel fresh all day, throw a pack in your bathroom, in your bag, wherever. It's an easy swap and it makes a bigger difference than you'd think. Also, if you've ever tried to upgrade with random wipes, then immediately regretted it.

[Host 1]

Well, same.

[Host 2]

These are different. Good wipes are made with plant based fibers so they break down easily and they're actually designed to be flushable. And I'll just say it, once you get used to feeling actually clean, it's hard to go back to just toilet paper. Grab good wipes at Target or Walmart so you can upgrade your restroom routine as a special offer for the Squeeze listeners, Good Wipes is giving you your first pack for free. Buy any pack in store, text them your receipt, and get reimbursed almost immediately. For more details, head to goodwipes.com squeeze again. That's goodwipes.com squeeze to snag a free pack of Good Wipes.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, could this vintage store be any cuter? Right, and the best part, they accept Discover. Accept Discovery in a little place like this? I don't think so, Jennifer. Oh, yeah. Huh? Discover is accepted where I like to shop. Come on, baby. Get with the times. Right. So we shouldn't get the parachute pants. These are making a comeback, I think. Discover is accepted at 99% of places that take credit cards nationwide, based on the February 2025 Nielsen report.

[Host 1]

How.

[Host 2]

How did.

[Host 1]

How did filming that kind of compare? Because obviously Summer House is reality and Traders is also somewhat a reality, also a game show. Did it feel different to you filming that versus Summer House or.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, definitely. It's like, the stakes are so different and, yeah, we're throwing parties at the Summer House and, like, I've known these people and, like, you can kind of predict, like, well, maybe not always predict, but it's like, we know each other, we're friends. Like, if we're going to fight about something, sure. Like, we're going to get over it, most likely. But in Traders, it's like, I don't know these people. I don't know a ton of background on them. I don't know if they're lying to me or not. But I know coming out of it, I definitely had my back up against a wall because I was like, I just, like, don't trust anyone right now. Yeah. Not even my own cast mates that I filmed with for the past five seasons. It's just your back's kind of up against the wall. But I'm honestly so glad I did Traders because I felt like it gave me, like, a new level of confidence, even just like, in the filming world or filming aspect, because you're kind of there alone instead of, like, with like, a group of people that you've known for a while. Yeah, it kind of like pushed me out on the edge. Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's awesome.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, it was nice.

[Host 1]

When Summer House first started, how was that, like, adjustment for you with being like, a reality TV.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Personality and people, like, 24.

[Sierra Miller]

And I was. Which I was like, I'm. I just turned 30. I'm was a baby.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I was like, I can't believe I was 24 when I filled my first season. Highly intimidating and just.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Reality. Would people think that we're like, we're half the time like, this is scripted. They're like, how much of it is real? How much of it is fake? And I'm like, it's all real. If it was fake and like, we were scripted, that would be so much easier for me. Yeah. I just, I know what to do. I read my lines like, I know what to expect, but we're not scripted. We're actually all genuinely nuts and reactions vary.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

But it was an interesting adjustment. I feel like I'm still adjusting, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, I feel like I kind of hid in my cocoon for the past couple years, like the first few years. And now I feel like just now I'm like, okay, maybe it's fine to like, open up a little bit more outside of the show and like, show people, you know, maybe more of myself outside of just like, what they're seeing.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Were you, like, apprehensive towards that just because it was really, like showing people who you were on, like a national.

[Sierra Miller]

Whoa. Or I think it's because. Well, I just feel like when the show's airing, people rip you apart for, like, your decisions in a one hour episode, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Which isn't like a true reflection of my life, but I like, I think I just kind of got into the mode of shutting down because. Yeah, I was like, you are. They already have so many opinions of me based on this one hour. Like, why would I give you more insight into, like, my life and who I am and what I love to do just for you to continue to, like, you know, rip it apart. Which not all comments are bad, but it's like the ones, it's like the little ones that you think inside your head that you see. Yeah. That get you.

[Host 1]

No, I, I feel like reality fan base is like, there's no, like, middle ground.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like all 100 love or all just 100.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Like tearing you down.

[Sierra Miller]

It's like low lows. High highs. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

I've become good friends with some of the Mormon wives and it's so, like, interesting even just like with this past season that came out, I've known like, what had happened and what was going to come out and it's just like, so. It's so. And like, I don't, I don't think I could like, ever do that. But it's so interesting to see, like, how people, like, what were you saying? Like, form opinions based off of like. Yes. It's a show. It's fabricated to some degree to make it dramatic.

[Sierra Miller]

Right. Like, yeah, it's edited. It's. Yeah. It's like it's not the full picture of some things. And also like, some of it's way much more light hearted than maybe it even is portrayed. Yeah. And some of it's more serious. It just really depends. But also it's like people have to take a step back. Like, you don't actually know us. Like, we. I love the fans. I feel like it's so nice to like, have that support. We wouldn't have a show without them. But I think there becomes like kind of a. A line that becomes crossed sometimes where it's like, whoa.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

You don't have to cut so deep, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah, no, for sure. Have you had to, like, set any boundaries with social media and negativity?

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah. So, I mean, like, I don't go on Reddit.

[Host 1]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Sierra Miller]

That's like Reddit is like. It's like it's too much. I can't. Which one of my good girlfriends. She always is on Reddit. I'm like, I can't even.

[Host 1]

My girlfriend literally will look up herself and I'm like, why?

[Sierra Miller]

That's like, don't do it. I was like, no, that's like almost like cutting yourself. It's like too. I was like, when I want to cr. Cry, when I want to like, really hurt myself potentially, I'll go to Reddit, but like, typically not in the mood for that.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

You know, so no Reddit for me. Yeah. In terms of Instagram, like, for a while I would like, put certain, like, blocks on like, words and stuff. And I mute people and I block people.

[Host 2]

Great.

[Sierra Miller]

But yeah. And I'm not on Twitter. Yeah. I kind of try to stay aloof to the, like all of the happenings. But yes, it does come. It's impossible to an extent. Yeah. I definitely am not like, diving deep and reading every article. I don't have Google alerts on, like, smart. I don't want to know.

[Host 1]

Yeah. How are you feeling about the new season?

[Sierra Miller]

Season 10? I feel like I have. It's like a big milestone season. I feel like we had such a good summer. It was kind of a shake up a little bit. And I think it's just, it's. We're going to continue to evolve and. But it's just crazy that we've. That it's in its 10th season. I'm a little. I'm always a little nervous before the season comes out.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Because I'm like we're under 247 surveillance when we're in the house. So, like, you forget things.

[Host 1]

Yeah. You have no control.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah. You forget things that you say. It's just. You're like, wow. I don't even. You say things under your breath you don't even remember saying.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

So it's funny just to see how.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

It all gets compiled into these episodes.

[Host 1]

Yeah. What can fans expect to see this season?

[Sierra Miller]

Definitely a lot of. I feel like we definitely peel back some layers in terms of, like, certain friendships on the show, and just, like, we have bigger conversations, like, in more meaningful conversations. I think the new people were great additions. The guys were great. The girls are great, too. And they definitely. We're so open to the experience, which I feel like it helps because even though, you know, there's, like, a core group of us that have been friends for a while, it is kind of intimidating coming into that space. But it's gonna be a lot of great parties, a lot of deep conversations, which I think are great. Like friendships in a new light and some of the same crazy old that we're always up to, which is just like drinking and, you know, all the fun that comes. Yeah. All the craziness with throwing parties and going out in the Hamptons. Yeah.

[Host 1]

I love it.

[Host 2]

Support for today's episode comes from Square, the business platform that helps sellers become neighborhood favorites. Whether you're gearing up for busy season or just trying to keep up with everyday demand, Square helps keep your business running smoothly. Everything lives in one place, from payments to online orders, inventory, staffing, and more, so you can spend less time juggling tools and more time focusing on customers. I also really love how Seamless Score feels. As a customer, you've probably noticed it at your favorite local coffee shop, workout studio, or boutique. Checkout is quick, receipts are easy, loyalty is built in, and everything just works on the business side. That kind of experience matters. It means staff can focus on people, not transactions. Another thing that really stands out is how flexible Square is. It's not locked into one way of doing things. You can start small, adjust as you grow, and build a setup that actually fits your business instead of forcing your business to fit the software. That kind of flexibility is huge, especially when things change or you're wearing a lot of hats. Square is also built to grow with you, whether you're just starting out or expanding from one location to many. You can sell in store, online, or both and customize your setup as your business evolves. If you're ready to streamline how you run things and set your business up to grow. Square makes it simple. Square helps you run your business more smoothly, bringing payments, operations, and insights together in one place so you're ready for whatever's next. Right now, listeners can get up to $200 off square hardware when you sign up at square.com go squeeze that's s q u a r e.com go squeeze get started with Square and build a setup that works the way you do. If you've ever gone to the gym consistently like you're showing up, you're putting in the work and still feel like you're barely seeing progress, that can get really discouraging. And honestly, that's usually the point where a lot of people just stop altogether because when you don't know if you're doing something that actually works, it's hard to stay motivated. That's why I've been loving Tonal. With Tonal, you can actually see your progress with every single workout. It tracks everything for you, adjusts as you get stronger, and takes all the guesswork out of training. There's a reason tonal is known as the ultimate strength training system and especially when life gets busy, which is always, workouts tend to be the first thing to fall off the to do list. With Tonal, it's so much easier to check workout off your list because it's right there in your home. Available 247 Another big thing that stops people from going to the gym is just not knowing where to start or wondering if your workout is even effective. Tonal completely solves that. It's the ultimate strength training system that tracks your progress and builds your workouts for you so you can focus on showing up and feeling confident that what you're doing actually matters. Tonal gives you real time coaching cues to help you lift safely and effectively. After a quick assessment, Tonal sets the optimal weight for every move and adjusts in 1 pound increments as you get stronger. So you're always feeling challenged without overdoing it. Plus, there's such a wide variety of expert LED workouts from strength training to arrow hit to yoga and mobility. It really keeps things fresh and makes it easier to stay consistent long term. Right now, Tonal is offering our listeners 200 off your tonal purchase with promo code squeeze that's tonal.com and use promo code squeeze for 200 off your purchase. That's tonal.com promo code squeeze for 200 off okay, I need to talk about Honey Love because this is one of those brands I didn't realize how much I actually needed until I started wearing it. I've had a long relationship with bras and shapewear like most of us have. Honestly, they're either comfortable but not very supportive or supportive but not really comfortable. And I originally tried honeylove because I was looking for something that actually worked without feeling uncomfortable. What surprised me most is how comfortable everything is while still being genuinely supportive. Their bras are wire free but don't feel flimsy. I'm not constantly adjusting or pulling things down. It just stays put. And this works whether you have a smaller chest or a fuller chest. It lifts without digging and it feels lightweight but secure, which really is hard to find. They've launched some incredible new bras. Their crossover contour bra adds molded light foam pads to their best selling wireless design for expert support and really beautiful contoured shape. And the Cloud Embrace bra sold out in days. It's a wireless T shirt bra that genuinely feels like a cloud on your skin. Honey Love uses bonding technology to lift and support without wires and targeted compression to enhance your curves instead of flattening them. Honey Love is also an independent female founded brand designed by women who actually wear these products, including the founder Betsy, who's deeply involved in every piece. Treat yourself to the most advanced bras and shapewear on the market. Use our exclusive link to save 20% off honey [e-mail] thesqueeze that's honeylove.com the squeeze. After you check out, they'll ask where you heard about them. Please support our show and tell them that we sent you experience the new standard and comfort and support with Honey Love.

[Host 1]

On a more serious note, I want to talk about your nursing background. Yeah. Because when I learned that about you, I was like, oh my gosh. Yay, we get to talk.

[Sierra Miller]

Yes. I love.

[Host 1]

When did, when did nursing start for you?

[Sierra Miller]

At 28. I graduated nursing school 2018. Okay. Which, wow, almost feels like, I guess it was almost 10 years ago.

[Host 1]

I know it all.

[Host 2]

Literally.

[Host 1]

It's.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, Yeah, I graduated in 2018 and then, yeah, May of 2018 and went into the hospital in like August or something.

[Host 2]

Okay.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Did you start in icu?

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, I did. Which it's like funny. I'm like, all my teachers in nursing school were like, you won't be able to start in the icu. And I was like, okay, watch me. I was like, I don't want to start on med surg. Like, I was like, I can't. No, I can't do it.

[Host 1]

What drew you to icu?

[Sierra Miller]

Did you just, like, how, like, the fast pace. I feel like you have to really think on your feet. And also just, like, the camaraderie and collaboration between, like, everyone. I also just, like, like, that type of acuity. I want to know why, how things function that way. I want to, you know, at least make a difference. It's kind of definitely, like the adrenaline and fast moving, which pace that I was attracted to.

[Host 2]

I feel like you just get to.

[Host 1]

Like, know your patients, like, so much more.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

To, like, on, like, such a deep level.

[Sierra Miller]

Right. And their fan. There's which obviously everyone's, like, very invested and.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

You. And like, when the families are great, like, you're. You feel like you really want to, like, help you want to make a difference and, like, which, you know, they always say, like, the ICU is like, the last place you go before the morgue or you get downgraded, you know, so it is that difference between, like, here and there, you know, for sure. Which I always felt like, was super important.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I never even wanted to go into the hospital. I love, like, or so I wanted to just do outpatient surgery and stuff like that. But then all that closed.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And then I was like, nursing school also was the first time I ever liked school. Like, I got straight A's. I was like, I. In high school, I was like, yeah, like, all that school, I was like, I don't like this, but nursing, I was, like, obsessed with it, really. So I was like, I just like, I'm a new nurse. Like, I really want to do something. So I was like, I'm just gonna apply to this one trauma center if I get the job. Like, they're hiring, like, their new grad programs. Like, 10 nurses.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Disperse. I was like, if I get it, great. If not, then I'll just wait it out. Yeah, I got it. And I always wonder, like, how was your experience with burnout with it? Because I think obviously, like, I got to do. So I got hired, like, August of 2020.

[Host 2]

So we weren't covet.

[Host 1]

There was, like, a little bit of a covet unit, but I got to, like, fully actually train.

[Sierra Miller]

Right.

[Host 1]

As a telemetry nurse.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And then December, I was like, I think November, December, I was officially on my own at nights. And then that's when, like, the COVID started coming in. And that was like, our charge nurse was in the monitor room. So, like, I had no one we the route of ratio. And I just remember, like, I was like, a month in, and I was like, what is that?

[Sierra Miller]

You're like a brand new baby nurse.

[Host 1]

You're like, wait, I'm like.

[Sierra Miller]

You get thrown into, like, a global pandemic.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And I was like, only like a year and a half in, but such a baby nurse still. But, like, in the unit. I feel like I. By the end of COVID so burnt out.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And even though I was, like, travel nursing, like I did, I worked at this one hospital in New York, and, like, we were brought in as, like, relief nurses because the staff nurses haven't, like, had a break because they haven't been able to take off because the. How they just had a plethora of patients dying. And, like, they had the morgue trucks outside of the hospital. It was an awful scenario. But also.

[Host 2]

To.

[Sierra Miller]

In a.

[Host 1]

To.

[Sierra Miller]

To. To an external. To a certain extent, like, were conditioned to, like, deal with death. But, like, Covid took it up, like, 10 notches. And then I like, filmed my first season of summer house in 2020 after I had, like, been working, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna take a break for, like, six, eight weeks, go film this show, then go back. So I did that and then went back to nursing, and then we ended up filming Winter House. Went back to nursing after that.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And then shortly after that, I think I took like, two, almost two years off. And then I went back at the top of maybe 2024, went back to my home hospital and Lane. I just like to put my feet back on the ground. I was like, I need to balance myself between the, like, reality TV world and, like, what's real.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

But stepping back into the unit after being away for some time, I was like, this is not what I remember. Like, just seeing people die and, like, having to, like, what a privilege to be able to, like, hold people's hands and be with them in their last moments. But, wow, so emotionally, like, taxing where and like, talking to my own old co workers. And it's like, we can laugh it off in the moment, but, like, once you've, like, taken a step back, it's like, whoa, like, what we're doing is actually insane. And, like, some of the scenarios that we're in and just, like, seeing these patients leave this earth in certain ways, it's like, not normal, but, like, when you're in the swing of it, you're in the mix. And like, yeah, it's just another day at work. But I was. When I went back, I was just like, this is not. I was like, this is so much. I'm like, one of my patients Died. Like, when I was first, like, on my first shift. Was I still on orientation? I was, like, still on orientation. It was, like, a couple days before I, like, got off orientation, and it was just such a gruesome death that I was like, this is so nuts. Like, and now I'm gonna fly back to New York and go film this show as if nothing happened. I was like, I just. I think I'm done with Bedside, you know, Just because I did it. I did my time at Bedside, but I'm like, I think there's a purpose for me outside of Bedside still in the nursing world.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Because I still love the education and everything. Like, yeah. All the knowledge. I think it's vital, you know?

[Host 1]

No, I still. I still keep up with my license.

[Sierra Miller]

Same. I'm like, I need to renew my license literally by the end of this month.

[Host 1]

Yeah, you need. Yeah, I know. But I'm just like. I don't know if I'll ever, like, do. I definitely could not do Bedside again.

[Sierra Miller]

Because I think I would know.

[Host 1]

Panic attack.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Because after Covid, I was like, everything felt easy.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

After that, to some degree. But then I actually ended up getting Covid, which was so funny. I got it visiting my husband on set and not ever at the hospital.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, my gosh. I didn't get Covid for two years. Where people are, like, fighting against masks. I'm like, guys, they actually work. I mean, like, I'm in a Covid unit with COVID patients, like, donning and doffing all day long. Like, I'm telling you, it works. I didn't get it for two years. And then when I got it, I was like, I think I got. I didn't lose my taste or vision or anything. Luckily, the strain was, like, kind of diluted.

[Host 1]

But, no, I, like, I. I. I died. I had long coven. That's why I quit. I think that was, like, God, being like, dude, you gotta, like, chill. Like, you're not okay.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Take a step back. Because I. I think it just comes with the nursing, like, mentality.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, I'm mine.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Like, I'm fine. Like, I'm not gonna, like, succumb to the new nurse quitting because there's just so much of that, like, seniority.

[Sierra Miller]

Highly competitive. Yeah. I feel like you. We overwork ourselves because we think it's like, a badge of honor. Yeah. Which I don't really know if I ever felt that way, but, like, I was. But it's like, you over. Like, it's cool to overwork and, like, pick up extra shifts and, like, want to be a helping hand, but I'm like, you get burnt out so fast and the hospital will use and abuse you until. But, like, also, you're a number, you know?

[Host 1]

No, it's so true.

[Sierra Miller]

You have to take care of yourself.

[Host 2]

Have you watched the Pit?

[Sierra Miller]

I have not watched the Pit, but people are saying it's like, the most realistic.

[Host 1]

I'm like, it is. I. I'm almost done with the first season because my husband will watch the show because it stresses him out, so I have to watch it on me time. But I was really. I waited a very long time to watch it because I was like, I don't. I had to do, like, EMDR therapy. I was like, really? Like, I was like, I don't know if I want.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Re. Enter, like that space in my mind again. But I'm like, actually obsessed with it.

[Sierra Miller]

Really?

[Host 1]

It's so correct. I mean, it's just ER nursing, but. Or not just. But it's. Yeah, it is only in the er.

[Host 2]

And it's so I'm like, literally working.

[Host 1]

The shift because each episode is an hour of a 50. It's a 15 hour shift, and each episode is an hour of the shift.

[Sierra Miller]

So it's like, oh, wow.

[Host 1]

Seven to eight, eight to nine. It's. It's really cool.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, interesting. Okay, so it's like one shift, like, each. Okay. Yeah, I need to watch because I've heard it's like, very accurate, which I'm like, I can't wa. I was like, I can't wa. I typically don't watch medical shows just because, I mean, like, before I went to nursing school, I was obsessed with House. Like, Gray's Anatomy. Yeah. But I think when you're, like, in it. I was like, this is not real life. But I heard they have, like, a really great. What do you. What do you call it? Like a. Like the consultant. Like a medical consultant.

[Host 1]

They have actual. Yeah, actual doctors that are like. They'll like, walk through the scene with them and be like, this goes here. Like, do it like this.

[Sierra Miller]

And right when I see, like an ET tube set, I'm like, what this is? I was like, there's literally a Yonker in this person's mouth. This is not an ET tube. This. They're not. This is not an intubation. This is.

[Host 1]

My husband now knows, like, he understands, like, what an IV is or like, what were we watching yesterday? Oh, we were watching one of the Batmans and, like, in it.

[Host 2]

So.

[Host 1]

But in some moment, like the third the third one with Christian Bale, the main one, I don't know if you've seen it, but he, like, sticks, like, just, like, a little needle on his arm as they're, like, in a plane that's crashing down. And it, like, Taylor's like, that's supposed to be an iv and he, like, knows.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah. It's, like, not correct picking up. He's like, this isn't. This doesn't feel like the proper scenario. But we're just gonna let. But, like, most people don't know, so, I mean.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Why. Why would they? Or my favorite is, like, we rewatched Stranger Things, like, before this last season, and my favorite is, like, if a patient's like, will is, like, coding or, like, he's like, his heart rate's going up, but you just hear beep. Beep.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Still just from the monitor. And, like, nothing changes.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It makes me.

[Sierra Miller]

It makes me giggle.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

It's just funny. I'm like, I can't even watch TV anymore. Okay, wait, you said you did emdr. Did you like it?

[Host 2]

I did.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay. I.

[Host 2]

Have you been interested in that?

[Sierra Miller]

I have. Okay. And I'm like, one of my girl. One of my guy friends did it, and he was like, it changed my life. And I'm like, I've done the ketamine therapy, like, in an office.

[Host 1]

That scares me.

[Sierra Miller]

Ketamine. Like, ketamine therapy was it. It's fast moving. Like, you go in. Like I did at a doctor's office. It's like a journey.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

IV infusion. It's. It's fast moving, but I'm also like, so. I get so motion sick so easily, so. And it's a dissociative anesthetic, but, like, I think it works. I did four sessions, but you got to really release control to do it. You got to.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Surrender. Which is kind of hard.

[Advertiser/Voiceover]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't.

[Host 1]

I don't think.

[Advertiser/Voiceover]

I, like.

[Host 1]

I don't even like taking Advil sometimes. I'm like, so I don't.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I think I would be, like, freaking out that something would happen now.

[Sierra Miller]

My first session, I completely jumped out of it and, like, had an anxiety attack and threw up and, like, all of the nine. But yeah. Then my second session, I was like, okay, I'm just here. I give up. Like, yeah, but the therapist was really great, and, like, that's good. Yeah.

[Host 1]

I think that makes a big difference. I did EMDR actually over zoom.

[Sierra Miller]

Oh, wow.

[Host 1]

Which I actually enjoy it. I did it, like, because you can either do it with Your eyes or like tapping. And I like, did the tapping with her. And I did it for nursing because I was just having still kind of like a lot of triggers and was still kind of just my. I was dissociating really bad. That was my thing. Like, I literally was forgetting, like my friends names. Like, I knew I knew them, but like, I couldn't. My brain just like.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Turned off.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And so I did it for that. And it was really helpful for me because I feel like I was able to like, put myself. It was easy for me to like, when we were talking about it, to put myself back, like, into like working Covid and like literally in the unit, talking through things. Because I know I'm not gonna like, be there again.

[Sierra Miller]

Right.

[Host 1]

I think that's. And I. I mean, I only did. I think I did like five or six sessions of it and it like, really helped me.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I know people that. I mean, my husband tried it. He did like three sessions and he was sweet and kept trying. After the first one, I was like, I don't think I like it. I was like, just try it for me.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And he did two more and he was like, I'm not doing it. But I think it's harder when it's like, something that. That you haven't like. I think it can work if you're not fully removed from something.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But I also, like. I think women were like, very much like, give me. Give me the woo.

[Host 2]

Woo.

[Host 1]

Give me the like, stuff.

[Sierra Miller]

I want to try everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys are like, so much more resistant.

[Host 1]

He's like, I'm not. I can't put myself in there. I'm like, okay, then never mind.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, it's not gonna work. Yeah.

[Host 1]

But no. Do you do talk therapy?

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, I haven't done talk therapy in like a maybe two years now. But usually I am in therapy.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

I'm on Prozac. Newly. Well, I've been on Prozac for like a year now. And it's amazing. Oh, I love it.

[Host 2]

Awesome.

[Sierra Miller]

I'm like, why did I ever.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Raw dog this life.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

You know, I was. I went 29 years. Yeah.

[Host 1]

What made you think it was like, time to.

[Sierra Miller]

I am like a isolationist. Like. Got it. Sit rot.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Not leave my house. Hate social situations. Like, couldn't be social. I'm like, it was my biggest fear, Worst nightmare. Just anxiety, too.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

So it was like, getting to the point where I was like, okay, this is literally ridiculous. Like, you are, you know, living this life that you like once Prayed for, but you can't even enjoy it because you're just, like, bogged down by the anxiety of it all or it's just, like, so overwhelming. So I was like, I'm gonna try, like, I had. Did ketamine. I did ketamine therapy all over the course of, like, the past few years. Did therapy, did the ketamine therapy. Would go to, like, some wellness retreats and stuff and, like, try and recenter myself. And then finally I was like, I think I'm just. I'm gonna try Prozac and just see, you know, I think I'm like. I think I need an antidepressant of some sort. And so then went on Prozac last year and thank God. I love that. Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's so good. I know. I have some girlfriends that are, like, trying to figure out what to do, and I'm always like, if you haven't made, like. I always say I'm such an advocate for being on medication.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Make sure you're, like, trying to, like, make active changes. Changes in your life totally before. Because if you're not, like, doing the simple. Like, it sounds so silly, but, like.

[Host 2]

The drinking water, the sun, and I.

[Sierra Miller]

Feel like going out, leaving your house.

[Host 1]

And I feel like I realized, like, when I was working nights how much just the simple stuff.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Actually does matter.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So I'm like, check. Check those boxes. Just make sure. Because honestly, sometimes it's like, oh, like, I just need it. You needed something small, you needed.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Just some time for this.

[Sierra Miller]

It's crazy how night shift will, like, knock you out. Like, it really screws your, like, circadian rhythms up so much, and you have that normalcy and nights kind of, like, throws you out.

[Host 1]

No. I definitely think that is, like, a big part of, like, why I struggled so much with my mental health. Because I was just working nights that whole time.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And the one good thing I got from it is I can now, like, sleep on command. I feel like I'm like, if it's like, I have 20 minutes nap. I'm like, head hitting the pillow. I'm close.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, you're out. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

[Host 1]

That is when the one that's done.

[Sierra Miller]

That's nice to be able to control. I'm like, I am a good sleeper. Whether I'm. Which I hope it never leaves me. I'm the best sleeper. I can fall asleep in 20 seconds and I can sleep anywhere. It's honestly a gift.

[Host 1]

Yeah. No, it is.

[Sierra Miller]

I hope it stays with me.

[Host 1]

I love it. Okay, let's Head into our last little segment.

[Sierra Miller]

Okay.

[Host 2]

It's called Lemon7. Seven Questions. You could rapid fire them. Or if you feel like sharing a little story with our lemon Drops, you can. First question is, what movie or song title best describes your mental health today?

[Sierra Miller]

What movie or song title?

[Host 1]

Suddenly every song and movie goes, like, out of. Out of your brain. That's the question.

[Sierra Miller]

Pretty much any song off Justin Bieber's album is Me.

[Host 1]

Great.

[Sierra Miller]

Love it. Swag one and two. The whole album. Me. Love it. It's just. Yeah. I just feel like you need some background noise. You can do that. It's great. But if you want to, like, be deep in thought, you can do that. It's just. I feel like it carries me.

[Host 1]

That's good. It's versatile.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Works for any mood.

[Host 2]

Number two is how open are you with people in life when struggling On.

[Sierra Miller]

A scale from 0 being not at all, 10 being the most. Probably like a. Probably a 6. Because here's the thing. I'm probably gonna cry about it first, and then, like, then I have to, like, open up about it. Yeah. I'm a crier. I'm a crybaby, literally.

[Host 1]

So, yeah, I like, whenever I get, like, emotion, I just, like, I cry.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah. It's big feelings.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, frustrated. Probably gonna cry. Yeah. I.

[Host 1]

So my best friend's the same way. And I'm like, thank God. Like, we just. My husband has really had to learn because he is, like, not. I mean. No, actually, that's a lie.

[Sierra Miller]

He is.

[Host 1]

He is very, like. He has emotional intelligence and is very, like, deep emotionally.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

But he does not cry like I do.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And he, like, I'll, like, start, like, sharing. I'm, like, open. It's weird because I'm open in this scenario.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Talking about my mental health, I'm an open book. But when it comes to, like, me sharing a deep feeling of, you know, something, I'm feeling maybe, like, Taylor hurt my feelings about something or something was bothering me about work, whatever. It's something that I, like.

[Host 2]

I can't.

[Sierra Miller]

I'm horrible.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And I'll, like, open my mouth and I, like, start crying. I'm like, everything's fine. This is just my reaction. So, like, just.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah, it has nothing.

[Host 1]

Just listen to what I have to say. And he, like, knows now. He's like, okay, yeah, he's gone.

[Sierra Miller]

She's gonna cry about it. But, like, listen to the message. Yeah.

[Host 1]

He's unfazed by the cry. If you can only follow three social media accounts, what would they be?

[Sierra Miller]

Three Social media accounts. Honestly, probably my girlfriends, all my friends. I'm like, what am I addicted to? Probably cat Instagrams. Great for one.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

My girl, like a friend. Yeah. And then I'm like, what else? Probably like the actually. Up next, designer, which is like fashion Instagram.

[Host 2]

Great, I love that.

[Host 1]

Next question is, what is your favorite.

[Host 2]

Form of self care?

[Sierra Miller]

Sitting, laying, rotting. I love it. Like, I can just be home in my space, take a bath, do whatever. Just being in my own space. I can either do a mask, skin care. Yeah, whatever. You know, just. It's the best home with like no obligations.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That's the weekend I have coming up.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, really excited, so. Nice.

[Host 1]

I'm like really excited about it. Yes. I will be doing the same thing. I will probably go to the farmer's market though. But then I will not leave.

[Sierra Miller]

Well, that's nice.

[Host 2]

Yeah, it's so little self care. Number five is what is the most.

[Host 1]

Misunderstood thing about you?

[Sierra Miller]

The most misunderstood? Okay. Probably that tough exterior crybaby. Like, looks like a. Looks like a cinnamon roll. Will kill you. You know that?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And like, looks like a cinnamon roll. Or people would say, will looks like she'll kill you. Will kill you. Yeah, definitely, Like, I definitely have this, which I don't mean to like have a hard exterior. Very. No bullshit.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And I think people think that, like, I'm not like a feeler, but I literally cry all the time at everything. But I just like have to have this exterior for most things, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

And I just feel like. Yeah. Being in the hospital hardens you in a certain way for sure. But also just. It also makes you a little soft, baby, too. Yeah.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I know. I feel like it's. Everything's just like, not that, like, everything's not that serious.

[Sierra Miller]

No, it's not that serious.

[Host 1]

I always have to tell myself, my therapist, actually, for a long time, he was like. Because I still sometimes now will struggle with like a to do list. I think, like, I'm like trying to like. It's so funny. I feel like I'm like in a med room. I'm like trying to grab like all the stuff from downstairs. So I just have to make one trip upstairs.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

My brain finally now is like starting to calm down. It's like, no, I can actually walk up and down the stairs a couple times.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And my therapist is always like, when I start to get like that, he's.

[Host 2]

Like, ask yourself, are people dying?

[Sierra Miller]

Right.

[Host 1]

Because you've been there.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

People aren't dying right now. Like, you can Miss the meeting. You can, this can whatever. Like something can get messed up.

[Sierra Miller]

Truly.

[Host 1]

You're not. No one's dying.

[Sierra Miller]

Yeah. My default is like, it's not that serious. The stakes are so different these days. Yeah. But like I am the same way with like that to do list where I'm like, I don't want to have to come back in this med room.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

For 50 frickin things. Especially if I have like a, you know, patient on isolation or something. And then you have to like take everything off. Go and get it. Like I just need to do it all at one time. But no, it's. Life isn't like that anymore.

[Host 2]

No, it's, it's not that serious. Who has had the most positive impact.

[Host 1]

On your mental health?

[Sierra Miller]

Who? Who?

[Host 1]

You're like my Prozac.

[Sierra Miller]

No, I literally the first person I thought of was my Prozac. My little teeny tiny bottle of Prozac. I wouldn't say, I honestly, I'm gonna say myself because I feel like, like love my parents, but they're not really like, yeah, you know, let's talk about mental health. I've really kind of had to do a lot of it myself and kind of figure it out on my own. And I think when I moved to New York, I was by myself and that was really the.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Like, whoa, I am here by myself. Like, you're on your own. Rent is so high and expensive. Like you gotta figure it out, you know?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

But I definitely think, yeah, I've. I'll go try retreats. Like, I'll try things, I'll just do it. And I do a lot of it by myself because.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Well, I'm single and like that's what you just have to learn to do. But yeah, I, I just, I feel like it. Kudos to myself for always trying to like remain open. But. Yeah, now. But sometimes I'm like my crunchy granola self where I'm like, you should go to this wellness retreat to everyone and you should be on this medication. Just try Prozac. Like.

[Host 1]

Yeah, good. It's good. Okay, last question is, if you can go back to one moment in your life, what moment would that be and.

[Host 2]

What would you say to yourself?

[Sierra Miller]

One moment in my life. You know, I don't know if I would actually go back. I don't think I would.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Sierra Miller]

Because I feel like you get to the point where, where you're at because of all of the things. Yeah. I definitely would tell myself to like believe in yourself a little more. Like you be confident, you know, which is always so much harder than it seems. But I would definitely tell myself to believe in myself a little more, you know, But I don't think I would go back and change anything necessarily.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 1]

That's sweet.

[Host 2]

Well, thanks for coming and chatting.

[Sierra Miller]

Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.

[Host 2]

So much fun.

[Sierra Miller]

Foreign. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.