Heidi Montag: Holding On to What Matters

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Squeeze

Episode: Heidi Montag: Holding On to What Matters

Date: April 29, 2026
Host: Taylor Lautner (co-host: Taylor Lautner)
Guest: Heidi Montag

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Overview

This episode of "The Squeeze" features reality TV star, singer, and media personality Heidi Montag. The conversation centers around Heidi’s journey through fame, motherhood, loss, mental health, and her ongoing music career. Heidi opens up about growing up in the public eye, building a family with Spencer Pratt, their heartbreaking loss of their home in the Palisades fire, how grief has shaped her, and how music remains a vital source of healing and identity. The discussion is rich with candid insights about resilience, relationships, and finding light in adversity.

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Key Discussion Segments & Insights

1. Heidi’s Dream of Stardom and Early Life

Timestamps: 00:32–08:25

• Heidi recalls her childhood aspiration to be a pop star, inspired by Madonna and Mariah Carey.
• She recounts her mother’s unwavering support—driving hours to acting classes and helping her pursue fashion and music.
• Heidi explains her transition from small-town Colorado to fashion school in San Francisco, where she met Lauren Conrad, which led to her reality TV career on "The Hills".

Quote:

"I always wanted to be a pop star. Like I would listen to Madonna when I was 8 years old...I wanted to be famous, I wanted to be successful. I always felt destined for Hollywood."
—Heidi Montag, [00:32]

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2. Life on “The Hills” & Finding Spencer

Timestamps: 08:25–11:14

• Heidi describes her unique experience on "The Hills", primarily focused on Spencer rather than the wider cast.
• She shares how work on her debut album "Superficial" overlapped with filming, and the lasting underground fanbase it built.
• Meeting Spencer changed her trajectory—fulfilling her dream to find a life partner young and grow together through public scrutiny.

Quote:

"Most of my experience was just with Spencer...We just had so much fun being on reality TV."
—Heidi Montag, [08:37]

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3. Growing Together in the Public Eye & Relationship Tools

Timestamps: 11:14–26:18

• Heidi and the hosts discuss the pressures of a public relationship and the importance of not seeking validation from the public.
• She emphasizes the value of honest communication, knowing one's love language, and carving out regular time for intimacy and connection.
• Heidi candidly talks about prioritizing weekly date nights, the importance of physical closeness, and finding balance between work, parenting, and partnership.

Quotes:

"For us, we never really looked to the public for any validation. It was more of the opposite. I'm kind of a rebel. Spencer's kind of a rebel..."
—Heidi Montag, [18:42]

“Intimacy is so important... It's also fun. Like, it should be fun. It's just a time to connect.”
—Heidi Montag, [21:26]

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4. Motherhood: Joys, Challenges, and Self-Compassion

Timestamps: 26:18–33:01

• Heidi opens up about the identity shifts and mental health challenges of new motherhood, including postpartum anxiety.
• She advises new mothers to travel with their babies early, prioritize self-care, and embrace help and routines that foster well-being (e.g., sleep hygiene).
• The group reflects on the need to extend grace to oneself—physically and mentally—during pregnancy and postpartum phases.

Quotes:

“You just gotta be like, okay, I am. I'm great. Everything's fine. I don't need to be anyone right now. I don't need to do anything right now. I just need to be and nurture myself and nurture this baby...”
—Heidi Montag, [27:05]

“I never had anxiety before I had kids.”
—Heidi Montag, [28:46]

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5. Loss of Home in the Palisades Fire: Grief, Anger, and Advocacy

Timestamps: 37:56–50:05

• Heidi discusses, in depth, her journey of grieving the loss of her family home in the Palisades fire—a life-altering experience.
• She expresses her frustration at the lack of public accountability and aid ("There was just such a fake narrative about everyone's rebuilding and everything's great. And it's like you're just lying.").
• Heidi speaks to the long-term impacts: financial strain, community displacement, and the emotional burden on her young children.
• She shares practical tips for others: advocate for yourself, prepare for emergencies, and keep vital documents ready.

Quotes:

“There was just such a fake narrative about everyone's rebuilding and everything's great. And it's like you're just lying. And that is so disturbing...”
—Heidi Montag, [39:00]

“I cried on the way over here thinking about, I know, sad about it, but just thinking about... your children's things and their little clay pots they bring home and just stuff you can't get back, things you can't buy back.”
—Heidi Montag, [38:53]

“For us, we don't have money to rebuild...it was a small house...But it was beautiful and you know, in on nature by this trail and this great community and we lived there for the placement of the Palisades and the safety.”
—Heidi Montag, [41:13]

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6. Resilience, Healing, and the Role of Music

Timestamps: 50:05–54:01

• Heidi credits music—both as a fan and an artist—with helping her move forward after tragedy.
• She describes her new single, "IV Drip" (out May 1st), and how a new wave of support rekindled her passion.
• Heidi reflects on the validation she’s received from fans whose lives she’s touched, underscoring the healing and communal power of music.

Quotes:

“The music really got me through all of this. It gave me an outlet, it gave me a focus, it gave me a goal. It took me out of, like, a dark mode...”
—Heidi Montag, [51:02]

“If my album could have that big of an effect on one person, that's what I made it for, you know… it was like a phoenix rising, really.”
—Heidi Montag, [52:39]

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7. Work-Life Balance & Inspiration for Moms

Timestamps: 54:01–60:19

• Heidi calls herself a “full-time mom and part-time pop star,” and describes how she manages music, work, and family—always prioritizing her children.
• The conversation affirms that it’s possible to pursue career ambitions and be a present parent, and recognizes the need for “a breath” and self-care as a mom.
• Heidi’s message to listeners: Dreams are always worth pursuing, no matter the circumstances or age.

Quotes:

“It's about a balance. I always say I'm a full-time mom and a part-time pop star...my priority is my family. And nothing will come over that. And I can also do the other things.”
—Heidi Montag, [56:58]

“It's Never too late to have a dream come true...You never know what life has around the corner. And don't give up on your dreams and keep pursuing them.”
—Heidi Montag, [59:34]

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Loss and Grief:
  “You work so hard, right, for everything in your home and you love everything in your home. And it's so curated in your childhood things and just your children's things...things you can't buy back.”
  —Heidi Montag, [38:53]

• On Intimacy in Marriage:
  “Intimacy is so important...you have to stay intimate with your significant other...Whatever intimacy is, it doesn’t have to be just sex, but...just being in bed and cuddling, like, that's important to me every night.”
  —Heidi Montag, [21:26]

• On Resilience:
  “I got to get out of these ashes and rise and be the woman and the person and the mom and the wife that I'm meant to be. Even with this challenge, God's going to use it for good, and I can move forward, and it is what it is.”
  —Heidi Montag, [52:39]

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Important Timestamps

• Heidi’s childhood dreams & origins of stardom: 00:32–07:10
• On “The Hills” and meeting Spencer: 08:25–11:14
• Navigating public life & marriage: 18:42–21:26
• Honesty, intimacy, and relationship strategies: 21:10–26:18
• Motherhood, postpartum, and advice for new moms: 26:18–33:01
• The impact of the Palisades fire & advocacy: 37:56–50:05
• The healing role of music and new projects: 50:05–54:01
• Work-life balance as a mom and creative: 54:01–60:19
• Uplifting final advice on dreams and new opportunities: 59:34–60:19

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Conclusion

This episode blends vulnerability and empowerment, as Heidi Montag candidly shares her highs and lows, from chasing pop stardom to weathering devastating loss and rebuilding. Her openness about mental health, grief, marriage, and motherhood provides not just comfort, but actionable insights and inspiration for listeners at all stages of life. The episode ends on a hopeful note, affirming that dreams can be realized at any age and in any circumstance when one stays true to themselves and keeps moving forward.

Transcript

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[Heidi Montag]

The following podcast is a Dear Media production Trisha Paytas said she named her album after me. I thought it'd be superficial. Bitch girl, I love you. My Roman Empire right now are pop stars. I am studying for my life. I always wanted to be a pop star. Like I would listen to Madonna when I was 8 years old. I wanted to be famous. I wanted to be successful. I always felt destined for Hollywood.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

When you like think back to like that time period of the hills, like what comes to mind first?

[Heidi Montag]

Most of my experience was just with Spencer.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

We just had so much fun being on reality tv. Do you feel like it affected your sense of self?

[Heidi Montag]

I'm very independent. I'm going to do what I want and I'm going to say what I want. I'm going to be who I want. So it really allowed me to step into myself. So it wasn't just about like, great, I'm on the hills right now and this is it. It's like, great, I'm on the hills right now and I'm going to be a pop star and I'm going here and I'm going to go there. And I met the love of my life. I always wanted to meet my husband young, go through life with someone as like my best friend, my partner. I came from a divorced family, prayed about it a lot.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Your entire relationship has been been in the public eye.

[Heidi Montag]

We never really looked to the public for any validation. It was more of the opposite. I'm kind of a rebel. Spencer's kind of a rebel. We both like have that streak in us a little bit.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

A little more serious. Obviously. You and Spencer have been very vocal about losing your home.

[Heidi Montag]

I mean, I cried on the way over here thinking about, I know, so sad about it. But three year old saying he's gonna push our house back up. It's like, I can do it, mom. I'm strong enough. Let's go back. I'll push our house up, helping them through it. And talking through it too. The music really got me through all of this. Just gave me such a light and it just made me be like, okay, everything's gonna be okay.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Hello, Lemon Drops. Welcome back to to another episode of the Squeeze. I hope you are having an amazing day. I hope your week is going great. And I'm so excited to introduce to you today's guest, Ms. Heidi Montag. Heidi is a reality TV star, singer, and media personality best known for her role on MTV's the Hills. During her time on the Hills, Heidi met her love of her life, Spencer Pratt, and they are married to this day with two children. Heidi calls herself a full time mom and part time pop star. And I think that encapsulates her so well. She speaks openly about motherhood, personal growth, finances, lessons learned from fame at a young age. In this episode, we cover all of the topics. Motherhood, what it was like for her being on reality TV at such a

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

young age and also growing up and

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

just going through life in the spotlight. We also talk about the loss of her and Spencer's family home during the Palisades fire and how she's working through her grief from that. She was full of so much wisdom and we honestly had the best time. I cannot wait for you guys to hear from her. You are going to love her.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Heidi, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Heidi Montag]

Thank you.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I'm so excited. I feel like you're the white of your outfit with the green and the brown is really just like, you fit the aesthetic in here so well.

[Heidi Montag]

Perfect.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Like, it feels so good. You are, you are one with the Squeeze. Okay, so we start each episode off with this jar. It's a game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull a little piece of paper.

[Heidi Montag]

Perfect. I thought that there was trash in there.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I was like, you're like, that's an odd place.

[Heidi Montag]

An interesting decoration. Okay, what's your Roman Empire?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay, okay. What is my Roman Empire? Like, something you're like, obsessed with, I guess. That is. I'm like my husband. No, I know. That's a good. I. I would say e. Like any. Anything that's like a YA show. I think I'm like, like, I love like the summer I turn pretty in Bridgerton. Like anything that's like a love story like that. It's just that.

[Heidi Montag]

Did you see the Empress?

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

No, I haven't watched that.

[Heidi Montag]

Okay, well, so good.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Netflix, literally, like nutting that.

[Heidi Montag]

Did you watch Victoria?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Wait, no, I didn't watch that. Are you on like the Line of Bridgerton or what?

[Heidi Montag]

It's or is it a little darker? Okay. But it depends, because when you're, like, in a certain state of life.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You only want to watch a certain type of thing, you know? So right now, I can watch all things and not have any type of reaction, you know? But my Roman Empire right now are pop stars. I am studying for my life. Like, I have the sats coming up for pop stars because I own my own record label and have since the beginning of, I don't know, 15 years or whatever.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Oh, wow.

[Heidi Montag]

And I have to curate my own shows. I don't have anyone to help me. Right. I have to, like, figure out the aesthetic. I have to figure out all the background assets for it. I have to figure out the facials, the choreography with the choreographer, like, so much.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So I've been watching on YouTube all the pop stars, all the pop girlies, you know, like, Jenny and Lisa and Zara and Slater and Tate and, like, okay, well, what is. What are their backgrounds? Like, what's their lighting? What's their esthetic? What's the timing? How long is in between each song? Like, what? You know, are they pulling Went up on stage? Are they not? So it's been, like, a deep dive on pop.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah, I love that. Well, that's also. That's also fun because that's, like, your job. So it's fun that you're, like, so obsessed with your job and you're doing that.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Wow. 15 years.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I didn't know that. What. What originally was music always what you wanted to do.

[Heidi Montag]

When I was younger, I always wanted to be a pop star. Like, I would listen to Madonna When I was 8 years old, my headphones walking around Mariah Carey, and I was like, I would love to. And my mom put me in voice lessons when I was, like, 8, 7 or 8, and was always so supportive of my dreams. But I wanted to be in Hollywood. I wanted to be famous, I wanted to be successful. And my mom would drive me to acting classes, like, three hours each way in Aspen, because we didn't live near Aspen, but that's where they were, and that's where they would go to pilot season.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Was from Aspen, you know, because obviously there's a lot of movie stars there and, like, rich kids, and I wasn't one of them. But my mom, like, did everything she could to put me in, like, dance class, voice lessons, acting. So that was. I always felt, destined for Hollywood.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I love that. So is that what made you make the move out here?

[Heidi Montag]

I actually was. It's, like, a little weird. Of a rewind. But I was living abroad as a junior in high school in Italy.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay.

[Heidi Montag]

And I didn't want to come back to my small town of 2000 people. Maybe it was even 1500 at the time, and. And have a senior year. I was like, I've literally been living by myself, going to fashion shows in the world. And so I said to my mom, like, I don't want to come home. I want to. And she's like, great, get your GED and have your senior year be now your freshman year of college somewhere, Whatever.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So I got my GED and I got into fashion school because I was obsessed with fashion. I was going to be a fashion star because I became friends with the Missoni family, and I was like, oh, I'm going to, you know, whatever, blah, blah. Yeah. So I've met Lauren at fashion school.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay.

[Heidi Montag]

And then I was living in San Francisco, and I didn't like San Francisco.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

I was, like, almost attacked by some home, like a homeless person. And the streets were just so, like, dirty and cold. And I was just like, like, this is not California. This is not my California dream. So I decided to move. And then, you know, Lauren was like, oh, you can come be on my show. And that was it.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

When you, like, think back to, like, that time period of the hills, like, what, what. What comes to mind first? Is it, like, happy? Is it like, oh, gosh, like, what. What are the first, like, emotions? Anything?

[Heidi Montag]

So fun. Like, I had a different experience than everyone else on the cast because most of my experience was just with Spencer. Like, they. I. After season two, really, we didn't interact with anyone.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So we just had so much fun. And we were like, you know, in the music studio most the time actually in the house, like, we'd go film our scene as quick as we could. We're like, just give us our lines. We gotta go to the studio. Yeah. And then most of the time was actually in the studio. Making Superficial. So Superficial came out in 2009, but I had been working on it since 2006 or seven for, like, two years.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay.

[Heidi Montag]

Um, and then ever since then, you know, I did the music and then it had this huge comeback. And I didn't realize what an underground fan base it had and what an impact it had on, like, up and coming artists. Like Slater said to me years ago, and even recently when we had her on a different podcast we had, she was like, you were like one of my quintessential pop stars. And Trisha Paytas said she named her album after me, she's like, I couldn't do superficial. I thought it'd be superficial, bitch. I was like, girl, I love you.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Oh my gosh, that is so cool. I'm so curious, like, when, like being on reality tv, like at you were young, like at such a young age, do you feel like it affected your sense of self or do you feel like because you had lived so much life before, you kind of knew who you were?

[Heidi Montag]

I felt like I had lived so much before and I was always so confident in my own skin and I, I've just, I'm very independent. I've always been very independent. Like, I'm going to do what I want and I'm going to say what I want. I'm going to be who I want. So it really allowed me to step into myself and like, who I always wanted to be because the only element I was ever missing was money. So I was like, great, now I have money to buy the clothes. I want to look how I want. So it was a really great experience for me. Obviously there was hard times and it was challenging, but I've always been a really like Pollyanna type of person. So I'm like, well, great, that's hard. And I'm going to work through that and think about that and then I'm going to choose to be positive, to move forward, to focus on the good, to, you know, I always had big goals.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So it wasn't just about like, great, I'm on the hills right now and this is it. It's like, great, I'm on the hills right now and I'm going to be a pop star and I'm going here and I'm going to go there and I'm going to, you know, I work so hard and I keep having a plan. So it was just a means to an end. And I met the love of my life. Yeah. So that was, that changed everything for me.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. That's so special. It's so cool that like, you, that you and Spencer really have just gone through like, like you got to like grow up together.

[Heidi Montag]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

In a sense, like I feel like that is so special. And most couples don't get to like, experience, obviously not just like being on a reality TV show together, but experience like that life together and growth together.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

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[Heidi Montag]

Right. Because for us, I always wanted to meet my husband young. I don't know, that was, like, something in my heart. I feel like I put that in my heart, and I always wanted that, to go through life with someone else, like my best friend, my partner. I came from a divorced family, and I didn't want that. I was like, I'm gonna meet the love of my life and, like, be together forever. And, you know, I prayed about it a lot, like, about meeting my husband and the right person, and it was so fun. And now we have so many memories together. And when you work with someone, and especially it us against the world, we understand each other to such a depth in such a different capacity. And, you know, right now is the first time we're kind of on our own worlds, which feels a little weird and a little exciting at the same time. But we were always together.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. How has it been for you guys to navigate because your entire relationship has been in the public eye. How has that been navigating hard times, good times for the two of you?

[Heidi Montag]

We. Yeah, it's. It can be a lot, especially with it being so public.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And for us, we never really looked to the public for any validation. It was more of the opposite. Like, I'm kind of a rebel. Spencer's kind of a rebel. We both, like, have that streak in us a little bit. Um, so we're both, like, we can do what we want. And, you know, it always. It always united us. But you do have to go through things in life, and it is hard, and it's about, even if you disagree or whatever, communicating and coming together and figuring out how do we move forward and having the hard conversations, you know, that's never fun. Nobody ever wants to do that. Yeah, but you have to do that, and you have to really be able to speak your own heart and truth and trust the other person with that.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So you have to just be really honest with yourself in a relationship and be your own advocate and make sure you're getting your needs met. And if they're not, you need to say, hey, I need this from you, or, hey, I'm feeling like that. Or communication is just the most important thing.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah, I agree with that. That definitely. Especially. I think that even comes down to, like, love languages, too. Like, Taylor and I have very different love languages. So, like, when I finished my first trimester, he surprised me with flowers. And, like, it's been like, I've like, literally sobbed so much just because he's like, learned my love language during this. But when I think it was for, like, Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day and my birthday, I was obviously pregnant for both of those. And I was like, just letting you know, like, I. I would like. I would like some nice flowers, please. Thank you. That's all I want. I don't want a gift. I want some nice flowers. That's it. And he's like, yes.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

But I feel like then I'm not like, I can't expect him to read my mind to, like. No.

[Heidi Montag]

Right. And people forget.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, like, oh, shoot. And I didn't order them in time. And then, you know, it's like, yeah, we did a show called Marriage boot Camp. And then we. They like, dissected your love languages. And I was like, oh, my gosh, you're right. It's such an important part of.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Of the relationship or the love languages.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. You kind of touched on this. But I feel like you both are so busy separately in your own lives right now. How do you. How do you, like, find time and prioritize time for you to. As a couple, but also as a family?

[Heidi Montag]

I have a mandatory once a week date night for Spencer and I. Even if he's on his phone the whole time while we're together.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And I have no expectation of the time. I'm like, okay, just want to go. And you know that I'm making the time.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

It's probably too much for your. I don't know if this is appropriate or not. But, like, intimacy is so important.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

It's so important. I will count how many times a week to make sure enough is it. You know what I mean? Like, you have to stay intimate with your significant other. And I think that's one of our actual secrets of marriage as well, is prioritizing that. Because Maybe sometimes it's less important for me or him or doesn't notice. But also, like, for us, we just, like, were. We were crying, laughing the other night. Like, it was. You know what I mean? Like, it. It's also fun. Like, it should be fun. It's just a time to connect. Whatever intimacy is, it doesn't have to be just sex, but, like, being in bed and cuddling, like, that's important to me every night, you know, to, like. All right, well, I. I want to go to sleep in your arms.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Like, at night. That's important. So whatever's important to you. Wherever you can find that time. And we talk on the phone a lot.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, we're just like. It's like a diet. A walkie talkie. I'm like, yeah. You know, so we are used to being together so much and maybe, like, over talking. I mean, sometimes we'll just be on the phone. It's silent, but we're like, yeah, but it's like.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

It's just nice. No, you. You guys are very similar to.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Because we're. We are both very much like that if one of us is traveling. Like. Like, I was just in D.C. so I literally, like, would have Taylor on, like, FaceTime, and I'd put him on the bed. Yeah. And I was just like, want hear what he was doing. And then he was also in the middle of, like, watching a basketball game, so like, was half paying attention to me, but I was changing and about to go to a dinner. But it's just like, I feel like some of my friends are like, what are you doing? Like, you talk to him way too much.

[Heidi Montag]

But it's like, there's no such thing.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah, I love that.

[Heidi Montag]

There's no such thing. I love that.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I like that you brought up the intimacy thing, though, because I think it's obviously important and, like, there are so many other forms of intimacy than just having sex. Like, there's just. I. My joke right now, because obviously being pregnant my first trimester and even still now, that's not really, like, the thing I really want at the moment because I'm just so uncomfortable.

[Heidi Montag]

Right.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

All the time. And so I'll be like, with Taylor, I'll be like, I need skin to skin. Like, just, like, joking because we're about to have a baby. Right. But we're like, I need skin to skin. And I just, like, will lay, like, on his chest. And I'm like. It's just, like, having that, like, moment. Like, we just. We took a nap earlier and like my arm was here and his arm was over mine. And just like having that like, touch, like, connection, you forget, I feel like how much you need that. And that's something I've learned about myself. Maybe I'm physical touch, but like, if I am, as I'm saying this, as I'm going, like throughout my day and I'm definitely, I am the more. And Taylor would attest to this, I am the more independent one. Like I, I'm an only child and I just have always done everything for myself. I'm like, I'm like, I'll do it all. Like, that's just my mindset all the time. And so it's easy for me not to forget about Taylor, but to like have like that moment of touch. And I feel like since pregnancy, because I've had to like rely on him for the first time because I was like on my deathbed during my first trimester and really so heavily relied on him. Like, I've really leaned into him and kind of like remembered how much I actually do like, need to even just

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

like hold his hand.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Like how much that skin to skin, just like touch, like means. And it's like, oh, okay.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Yeah, I feel better now.

[Heidi Montag]

And I feel like with pregnancy it's a known unknown that whatever is best for you. If you're feeling sexy and fun and great and then great. And if you're not, then great.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Like it's such a sacred time and you gotta follow your cues. So like whatever that is, you know what I mean? You, that's important. But probably the most intimate, orgasmic, best thing you'll have is a foot rub. There is nothing better than a foot rub. Oh my gosh. I would just shove my feet in Spencer's face. By the end of it, I was like, I am waiting and I am not.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I had my. One of my feet on Taylor last night on the couch and I was like. It was just like flicking it towards him. He's like, do you want. I'm like, yep. Yeah, I'm not there. I'm not like fully there yet of like the aching, but I definitely will.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah, it's. It is a lot of pressure you probably feel on yourself. But the first trimester is hard.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So you just gotta really. And it's so important. And I feel like that's probably why you're not feel, you know, your hormones are protecting the baby.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

It's like, protect the baby, make sure everything's fine and second trimester is great.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

I mean, and I know You've heard that. But it's like, okay, that's the time. And then third trimester is the same. You got it. It like different and the same as the first. Like, you gotta take it a little more easy. Whatever is feeling up to or not. And then after is really hard too.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Because you don't like. I remember being postpartum and not realizing how hormonal I really was. Just kind of like up and down. And I'm a very positive, even keel balanced, serious, you know, like everything is always great.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Like, even if it's not, I'll work through it. We'll figure it out. But I didn't realize that was a. It was really challenging. It was weird not feeling like myself. And I think that was foreign. It's like, who is this person? I'm feeling so like, weird and sad or like I need my mom or. But it's temporary too. And you gotta just be. Give yourself such grace because just. I'm like a perfectionist.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, and you just gotta be like, okay, I am. I'm great. Everything's fine. I don't need to be anyone right now. I don't need to do anything right now. I just need to be and like, nurture myself and nurture this baby and you know what I mean? You gotta like.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Care for yourself because it's.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, but you'll be great at that.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I. I think I've given myself grace physically doing things, but mentally I haven't. And I expect the same mental clarity and mental performance. Yes. As I would before I was pregnant. But my mental capacities, like, still gets like, so tired halfway through the day if I've worked from like 8 to 1.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

So I've really been having to learn to like, give myself. Yes. Grace with that.

[Heidi Montag]

Yes. And your brain is like changing with your hormones. Yeah. You have. What are they? Pregnancy brain. You know, it's like, like. That's true.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

No, it's very true. Did you struggle with postpartum depression or anything like that? Or was it just kind of like you feel like a letdown of your hormones?

[Heidi Montag]

I. It wasn't depression, but it was intense. Yeah, it's intense. You know, and it was. It would come and it would go. And it was at a time that Spencer became super busy. And it was like the first time he kind of left me to go be busy. And I was like, excuse me. Like, don't forget. Yeah. Like, so that was hard for me that he left and I had like, anxiety attacks. Being alone because I was like, what if something happens to me and I die right here and then this baby is left in the crib and like, am I going through this crazy.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, I never had anxiety before I had kids.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay.

[Heidi Montag]

And sometimes I still work on anxiety with the kids. You know, it's just a lot. It's a lot of pressure, it's a lot of stress. It's a lot at stake. And you care, right? Like, care more than I ever have before before. It's like yola, whatever. No, it's like no yolo. Yeah, like right here, right now. So, yeah, I. I just have learned to kind of breathe and be like, what are, what am I thinking about right now? Okay, that's not real. That's not true. Say a prayer, take a deep breath. Whatever it is, I can change my thoughts, you know, like, and then if you even. If I even start saying anxiety, I like start getting anxiety. I'm like, oh my gosh, it's. It creeps in. So it's interesting that like after you have a baby, you know, your whole world changes.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. I'd love to know like just like the perspective change on life that you had when you became a mom. Like, what if there's something like specifically that comes to mind or it could even just be like broad of how you maybe viewed life or went about things after becoming a mom. If anything changed.

[Heidi Montag]

I mean, I was very just Spencer focused, you know, and I would like clean the house and I was like a like ocd. I was just very like clean, you know. Now like the house is messy most of the time. I've had to like let that go because I can't full time clean and full time work and full time this and that. So also I'm less just Spencer focused. I have to focus on the kids. I have to balance more.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

I think I was a very like, whatever life is short and do it one and it's all good. And I was like, oh my gosh. No. I need to like be a better long term planner. I need to take other things in consideration. I need to be more. I've always been like responsible, but yeah, within what I wanted to do kind of, you know.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

I don't know how to explain it, but yeah. Yeah. So a lot of things have definitely changed.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. Do you have any other advice for first time moms? Whether it's in regards to being a mom in relationship, anything that I'm open ear so I'll take whatever.

[Heidi Montag]

Travel with the baby when the baby is what Three months old. It will be the easiest until they're not a toddler anymore. Take the baby to Hawaii, go on the airplane, do the things. Because they sleep on the airplane. All they do is sit there. They're not screaming and kicking and yelling and oh like all these whole different levels. So travel with the baby, have the baby moon. For sure. Like when you're pregnant and that like last few weeks that you can or whatever. Just like take that time for you and Taylor. Go to Hawaii, Go somewhere.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And just like relax on the beach, take it in, have that moment. And then I would say also taking care of babies is. Changed my life. I did co sleeping with my older son and it he just started being a good sleeper and he's eight.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Oh wow.

[Heidi Montag]

So a lot of people like co sleeping great. I did too, until it ended up being horrible, awful experience.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And he wouldn't sleep alone at 3, 4. And I can't sleep with him. Like he wakes me up, he kicks me. It was impossible. So I did taking care of babies with my second kid. And I'm not judging anyone. All good. Whatever you do. But it was sleep hygiene because I didn't like to have the heart to do the sleep training because I was like, I can't just let him cry. Like I just can't do that.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And this was perfect. It was just about a routine. It was so helpful. I called the company, like even last week I called the company. But it was so informative and so helpful. So that changed my life.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay.

[Heidi Montag]

Because you don't realize how like when you have to work, you have to sleep.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

If you don't have to work, great. You can just snap in the baby naps and do all that. Which I did the first time, but I couldn't the second time. I'm like, I gotta be up, I gotta be working, I need to do this. Like you gotta take care of the second, the first one, two. It's like I don't have time that first one. You can just have that be your whole world if you're an at home mom.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

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[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Okay, I want to talk about something a little more serious. Obviously the inser been very vocal about losing your home in the Palisades fire and I'm really thankful for you guys being so vocal because I feel like a lot of people. Obviously I think people handle their Grief differently. But I was really moved by how vocal you guys have been through it. And I can't imagine obviously going through that, but then also being so like public facing during it. I'd love to know kind of what, what your journey with grief, because this is, you know, when I feel like people think of grief, we think of, you know, losing a human. But this is definitely like such a grieving period for you. How. How is your journey of grief and kind of rebuilding been like, they say

[Heidi Montag]

it takes a year for grief, right. To really, like settle in your brain and your body and everything. And that's so true. That's definitely what I experienced. I mean, I cried on the way over here thinking about, I know, sad about it, but just thinking about. You work so hard, right, for everything in your home and you love everything in your home. And it's so curated in your childhood things and just your children's things and their little clay pots they bring home and just stuff you can't get back, things you can't buy back. So it's, it's challenging. It's been really challenging. You know, all of our friends live there, our community. Spencer grew up in the Palisades. He had been there his whole life. His parents lost everything. They lived in the Palisades still. And it, yeah, it's just been really challenging. And there was just such a fake narrative about everyone's rebuilding and everything's great. And it's like you're just lying. And that is so disturbing that you can just sit there and lie and say this community that is displaced, unhoused is fine. There were like over 7, 000 houses that burned down and there's only been under 20 that have been able to rebuild, start rebuilding.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Oh, wow.

[Heidi Montag]

So that's devastating. Not to mention Aladena and Malibu. That's not even counting those communities. So it's just so infuriating when the government that we depend on and pay and count on just dismisses you and kind of makes jokes about it and puts it on this pedestal. Like they're doing such a great job when they were responsible for it. And not even taking any accountability was just so infuriating for us. And we are one of those, you know, like, we don't have money to rebuild. We put all of our money into that house that we worked how many years for that? We were, you know, did everything to have and we had to have help with it. We had a mortgage on the house and it was a small house. It was a 2,000 foot square house. But it was beautiful and you know, in on nature by this trail and this great community and we lived there for the placement of the Palisades and the safety of the Palisades and growing up in a community where my husband grew up.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So it's just, it's still hard. You know, we have our lawsuit and hopefully in the fall or the upcoming year we'll have some clarity on where that stands because I do think we have a really good case and I, I do hope for us and for all the other plaintiffs that we win. Because what also people don't understand about that community is there were only recently the rich community that really moved in before it was a more affordable community. And these houses were passed down through generations. So you have a lot of elderly people who can't rebuild. You have a lot of people who lived in their parents house. I had friends who lived in their parents house with the grandparents. You know, like there were generations in one house. But everyone was excited because it was in the Palisades and it became this really rich community that it wasn't before the village had, was recent to that community as well.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

So that wasn't the heart of the Palisades.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I feel like this is the first like tragedy that I witnessed but was somewhat like this was the closest I've ever been to something.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

I feel like we see the hurricanes

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

on the news and that I see it but I'm not connected to it because I don't know anyone really affected. But with this, I mean we, I, I, we were out of that this house for a week and a half because it was just, they were like, we don't know I didn't have any power and it was so many, so

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

many of our friends lost their home

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

and it was one of the first times I've ever like I remember crying to Taylor just like because of people like you guys and so many people just lot like losing your home is something that I feel like is something that isn't talked about much because it's not that common to happen. But it's the first time I was

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

ever that close to something before.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

And it really, it really like struck a chord in me and I think,

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

I think it's kind of brought a

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

lot of the surrounding areas together because even just driving down like pch like I remember the first time I drove down it when it finally opened I was like, like I even still today I'm like kind of like hit by that. It's crazy that it happened but I thought it was so special that you guys were standing up and other people were like, no, this. No one's reboot like this, this isn't happening actually, because it's important because you never know. Like, I only knew because just I live here and I drive by it and I see it, you know. Right. So I applaud you both really for doing that.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

How. How has it been for you?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Obviously you're a wife and a mom and I really feel like that position in the household kind of keeps everyone together. How.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

How has that been for you?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Trying to care for your husband and make sure, you know, he emotionally just going through all of this and with your kids and still trying to find time with yourself to grieve and just have a moment of like I was

[Heidi Montag]

doing it all at once. And you know, I continued to because Spencer was so excited. Like, your songs are going viral and we're going to be able to rebuild and the community is getting behind us and, you know, we'll make enough money to buy another house. And all his hopes, hope was in the future of being able to rebuild and to make money. And I'm saying to him, it doesn't translate like that. I'm appreciative of like all the excite, the momentum and I couldn't be more grateful and it couldn't be a better moment, but that's not what's gonna happen. I was like, it doesn't. It's not the way it used to be in the music industry. It's pennies. I was like, honey, this is. It's a great moment and I'm so excited for it, but this is not going to rebuild our house. Like, this is not enough money to do that. I was like, I'll go through the motions. And I'm excited because this is the moment of my career I've been waiting for for 20 years or whatever. So I was so excited by it and the highs were so high and at the same time, it was so low because I'm scrambling to get my kids in school. I'm like, I'm re. I'm enrolling them. That's what I'm focused on. I'm focused on my three year old saying, he's gonna push our house back up. And like, he still says that like every day. And he says like, oh, that hummingbird's house burned down or that duck's house burned down. And so everything is about like, houses burning down. He's three and he thinks it's somehow his responsibility to push our house back up. And that he's strong enough. And he's like, I can do it, mom, I'm strong enough. Let's go back. I'll push our house up. And so it's about helping them through it and talking through it too, and wanting them to feel those emotions and being able to have those conversations. And then at the same time, I was working the most that it was working and trying to find new nannies. And I don't trust hardly the nannies that I've had that have been vetted through agencies for five years. And like all of a sudden there are all these strangers in the house and having to leave them and in a new school. And then, you know, Spencer wasn't sleeping because he was so like, I gotta keep pumping the music and this, that. And I finally said to him, I'm like, you need to stop. I was like, seriously, you haven't slept in like a week and a half. You've had like an hour of sleep. I was like, if you don't sleep and you don't start taking care of yourself, none of this matters. I was like, you're not, you need to like reset here. And he was just in such shock and just felt so much pressure, like my three year old to rebuild the house and to, to refocus on that. And then for me, I would just grieve in between dropping the kids off and, you know, just let myself like cry and pray and talk through it and, you know, trying to give myself a light at the end of the tunnel. And. And it's a lot, it's a lot to balance. It's a lot to continue to balance. And I am doing a lot better with it. It's still challenging for sure. And you know, it's just, it's kind of a life. I mean, not kind of. It's a, it's a life altering thing. And you know, when you see the hurricanes and stuff in Florida, you're like, ah, well, there's nothing anyone could have done. It's a natural disaster, you know, but this wasn't something that was a natural disaster. And that's what's so frustrating is that it could have been prevented. Maybe not all the houses, but a majority of the houses, and the fact that there was no water and all these things that should have been put in place, that it was preventable, that they could have done the, the burn out, you know, like it should have been a parameter around the town and that only cost a few thousand, a hundred thousand dollars or whatever for the, to save the entire community. So, yeah, it's just frustrating too, when you feel like such a let down also. And. Yeah, and then it's not helpful either because, you know, it's just. It is what it is at this point.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

What do you hope people take away from your story?

[Heidi Montag]

I hope that people learn, you know, and we had been talking about it, but to defend your own home. No, A lot of the time people aren't going to come and save you. I wish we had the hoses. We were already talking about this preparation because of what happened in Malibu. And we were just talking to our friends who lost their house. And we're like, okay, we need this mass. We need that. We need, you know, so just to prepare your own home and not to prepare on the state or the city, you know, same with like, protect home protection, like, protect yourself. The cops are how far away or whatever. Like, we need to protect ourselves in this day and age. And just if you set yourself up for as much success as you can. Also to have a go bag, you know, I thankfully had our documents in a go bag. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't have enough of a few other things, but at least I had all of our documents, like our marriage certificate, our passports, our birth certificates. So, yeah, that was helpful and to just check, you know, your own places. But yeah, it's, you know, and people say it's just things and it's. That it is and it's not. So it's tricky. And I think if I had, like, so much money and I could rebuild and it would probably make it easier.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And so just to be, like, displaced and be like, that was my one home. I worked my whole life. Or, you know, that it makes it.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Challenging. But, you know, and it is true. And it's not true, but it does put. I mean, it was already in perspective. I. I don't need it to be in perspective that life is short and you can't take things. And I already knew that.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

It's so. But yeah, I mean, through that I even. I learned to. I have like all of our keepsake stuff, like in boxes, and I have like a document bag. Because we've just. I mean, I've. I grew up here, so I've been, you know, evacuated many times. Thankfully, you know, nothing has happened. But especially after Palisades, I was like, this is where everything is. Like, I. I shall tell Taylor if I'm out of town. I tell our assistant. I tell my family. Like, this is where everything is. If anything happens, this just Needs to go in the car.

[Heidi Montag]

Perfect.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Like, that's.

[Heidi Montag]

Yes.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

So that's, like, something that I've learned, and I think that will definitely help us people moving forward. On a lighter note, let's talk about. Let's talk about some music. I think there is something, like, I want to know for you, like, what role does music play for you? Because it's been something you've always wanted and been a part of your life for so long. Like, what does making music mean to you?

[Heidi Montag]

The music really got me through all of this. It gave me an outlet, it gave me a focus, it gave me a goal. It took me out of, like, a dark mode. It took me out of just being in mom mode. It took me out of just being in survival mode. So I cannot say enough, really, how grateful I am for every person who has streamed and everyone who has supported and like, gave us such a light in such a darkness and gave us such a focus and a drive. And it was just incredible to. To have had that moment. And it really was so therapeutic for me and being able to perform and having people cheering when I'm going out there and all these crowds. And it just gave me such a light and it just made me be like, okay, Everything's gonna be okay. And I just felt, like, so supported for the first time in my career. And so to be able to have that and to be able to interact with these fans who had been fans for so many years. I had people come up to me and said I actually saved their lives in, like, high school because it gave them an outlet and that they had thought about killing themselves and that my album had saved their life. And that put me in such a different perspective, too. And I was like, if my album could have that big of an effect on one person, that's what I made it for, you know, because. So it was just so incredible to have the music and continues to be. And continues to be such a blessing and a dream come true and a focus and give has given me real life to a part of me that had been gone for so many years. And the first time to be able to step into this role, that was my biggest dream. So it was like a phoenix rising, really. I got to get out of these ashes and rise and. And. And be the. The woman and the person and the mom and the wife that I'm meant to be. Even with this challenge, God's going to use it for good, and I can move forward, and it is what it is. And I'm gonna focus on. On the good.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. You have a new single coming out May 1st called IV drip. Tell us about it. What made you decide to come out with new music? Tell us about the song. Anything and everything.

[Heidi Montag]

I had been working on an album a year before the fires, because I'll do it. Had such a huge international moment. It was like a billion streams in China. It was so big in Asia. Had a huge moment on Tik Tok. And I just felt the momentum of the music, and I was like, all right, I'm gonna get back in the studio. Because I was always so mad at myself for spending so much money on this album. And I was like, I just threw so much of our money away. Should just put it in a house. Should have just saved it. Like, I had so many regrets over my music because that was our main income that we got and we invested into my music, and I just felt like I kind of let us down, you know, because I was the star of it that we were investing in.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

And it just. It had been such a sore spot for me for so many years, and I was like, you know what? I'm going to give it one more go. Like, I never really. I never got to perform how I wanted. I didn't have the moment that I wanted. I'm gonna get back in here. And Spencer was so supportive of it and, like, helped me get back in there and help me find the right people. And so then Heidi Wood came out, and that was great. It was number five on iTunes and top streaming and Billboard, and it was great. It was incredible. And then I was like, well, I'm gonna work on the next album. So this album is, like, escape, escapism, pop, you know, it's like that dance, Fun, sexy. It just brings you. Brings out something else in you, you know? And that's what I love about music. And, like, Beyonce says she has Sasha Fierce, and I really feel like I can channel that inner hotness. And it's also a good reminder. It's like, okay, I'm. I'm also a hot woman with me, and I can do what I want, and I can go turn up and dance and whatever. And I'm not just a mom, so it takes me out of, like, just being in mom mode, which is really nice for me, nice for my husband, nice for all of us. Yeah. And so Ivy Drip is amazing. Nova May wrote it, and she's actually an incredible musician herself. She featured me on one of her songs, tropicana Bar, which is really fun. So this is just one of my Favorite songs off the upcoming album. Okay. And it hits all the right places. And it is so good. It's actually addicting. My glam squad is begging me for it. Like, when is it coming? When is it coming?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Like, I love that.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. So the gays love it. It's. It's incredible. It's one of my favorite songs. And it just really gives that pop dance escapism that helps you to turn up when you need to.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah. Well, what you were saying earlier, this makes sense about studying. Like you said, like Tate and Zara and like other people. Like, that is like what you were describing. Like that like Tate has Tatiana. And that's like. But that's the same thing as someone obviously not a mom yet will be. And even before I was pregnant, I always we. I always like, just wondered what, what my life would look like after being a mom. Like, would I still be able to like, pursue the things I want to pursue and work and I've. You know, I never. Growing up, I always just kind of wanted to be a mom and a wife and stay home. But I, over the past five years have just like found this love for like working in my career and something that I never thought I would have. And I've always questioned, like, can I do both? So, like, you really just chasing your dreams and like living this pop star dream out is so inspiring to. I know not only just me, but other women watching this right now.

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

Because that's what we need.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Like, we need other females going out and doing this.

[Heidi Montag]

Yeah. And it's about a balance. I always say I'm a full time mom and a part time pop star.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

Because I am a full time mom. Like, I wake up and I give them breakfast and I'm there. I drop them off at school every day. I make sure to try to get back. I work when they're at school and that's always great too. Like, I try to do as much as I can get back, be there at the sports. Like, I just, I had to cancel a whole day because there was a thing at school and I was like, shoot, it just came out and. And he has his open night. And so I'm sorry. Like, I gotta cancel the whole day. And I felt so bad because I never cancel anything too. And it was like full day of podcast, but I was like, I cannot miss. This is like the biggest thing of his year. Like, I'm so sorry and clear Spencer's calendar, but whatever. Yeah. Like, yeah. So my priority is my family. And nothing will come over that And I can also do the other things because sometimes you as a mom, especially with like, two, you need a breath.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

You know, and it's like, okay. It's okay to need a breath, you know, like. And so I don't stop. I literally run from room. Like, my Mila. My hair sales day was like, girl running. And I was like, who else is getting everything done?

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Heidi Montag]

I was like, do you see what I'm doing? I had two sick kids at home, both fevers, crying, running from room to room, trying to sit in the glam, getting all my stuff done. Before this, I had to go and finish. Finish recording a song that's going to be that actually Zara Larson's producers wrote. Yeah. Margot wrote it. I'm so excited. She's done, like, so many of the songs, so. Any of Zara's songs, but. So I went there, and that's why I was. I should have just come right from here, but I had to do that. And then I have dance rehearsal after this.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Heidi Montag]

And then. But I canceled half of it because then I have to get home to these kids who are not feeling good. So it's like. But I'm literally. I run from room to room, so I don't stop. Even Spencer says when I wake up from 6am until I go to sleep, which now I just upped my bedtime. I'm like, I have to go to bed at 9.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Yep, that's good.

[Heidi Montag]

I'm too tired. 10 is not on the list right now.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

It's so inspiring being. Seeing women do. Do both. And I love it, and I'm so excited for you and thankful in a sense that you are just, like, living out your dream because it's so. It's so inspiring to be. And I'm like. Like, I was telling Taylor the other day, like, I'm so excited to have a baby and, like, our baby, to watch me just be, like, a boss mom. Like, I'm. I've. I feel like I'm gonna be inspired in a new way to, you know, work hard and have my kids one day. Like, see everything that I've worked for

[Heidi Montag]

and accomplished, and it reprioritizes everything. It's like, okay, what's important, what's not? It's a great filter having the kids, too, because time becomes more precious and limited, and it really refines your life, and it helps you to set your own goals and to focus on it. And one thing I've learned through this fire and through this process is it's Never too late to have a dream come true. You know, I thought, like, ah, that's never gonna happen. I'm too old. You know, the moment's gone. I'm just. All my dreams are gone, you know? But it's like, no, that's not true. You never know what life has around the corner. And don't give up on your dreams and keep pursuing them. And you're never too old for something to transform, inspire something to happen. So you never know the next chapter that is ahead and to go for it and just put yourself out there.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I love that you took me to church there. And that moment, I was like, yes, preach it. I love that. Anything else fun and exciting you have coming up that you want to share?

[Heidi Montag]

Okay. I'm performing at Neon Skies July 18th and headlining under Ke$and Slater.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Oh, my gosh.

[Heidi Montag]

So I'm so excited. I'm the third headliner. And what a day that is. I'm so excited. And I love Slater. I've known her for years. We're not, like, super close, but we've had a rapport. And so I'm a huge fan for her and very excited for her moment. She's having obviously, really respect Kesha, and I have her. I was on a billing under her last year in London, and now I'm one of the headliners under her. So I'm so excited and honored to be part of that night. And who knows what else is around the corner. I just did the masked singer. That was great.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

Oh, my gosh. I honestly feel like you had the cutest costume, too. You really did have the cutest.

[Heidi Montag]

I had a vocal entry that I'm still suffering from, so that kind of took me out. But I loved being on the show, and it was a really cool experience. So if you ever get that, just say yes. That'll be good.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I will. I love that. Well, thanks for coming.

[Heidi Montag]

Thank you chatting.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I'm so excited for you. And we'll link everything below. So go listen to your song and

[Podcast Host (Co-host)]

go see you headline.

[Heidi Montag]

Thank you. Thank you. And congratulations. You got this. You're gonna be amazing. And yeah. Oh, also for the birth. Like, it sounds silly, but draw your birth. I did that and it happened like, you know, I had, like, angels in the room and, like, I had a. I had a vision of the birth and, you know, like, okay, great.

[Podcast Host (Interviewer)]

I love a little arts and crafts project, so I will do that. I love it.

[Heidi Montag]

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