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Issa Barones
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Issa Barones
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Podcast Host
Now.
Issa Barones
When they first told us there was not gonna be any background music, we were like, okay, this is either gonna really work or it's really not going to. Yeah, it's what makes it feel so real. Feels like we're kind of bringing you into it. Pick the right case.
Podcast Host
I want to know what your audition process was like.
Issa Barones
I think it was a two show day. I had an audition for a medical show and an audition for CIA show. I like, could barely remember the lines and I was like, I feel so Fraz started having a meltdown. I was like, you know what? I shouldn't even audition. No one's going to believe me.
Podcast Host
As a doctor dying to know what this medical boot camp was like, taught
Issa Barones
us how to intubate and taught us how to suture. You can memorize lines all you want, but I actually don't know the ins and outs of where this information goes. And watch videos of like, what is the procedure? So I can kind of see it in my mind. I think that really tests you to be like, do you actually want to do this?
Podcast Host
People in the healthcare world that do have that really, like, tough exterior that they put on and there's whole other side. What's like the first thing that goes through your mind? I was nervous.
Issa Barones
I think we've seen a lot of misuse of self harm plot lines. If we're doing this, then we have to, like, really do it right. A lot of it is hoping that people walk away with more empathy. For healthcare professionals, it's human stories, the insecurities that all of her behaviors come from. She's a human being. I do kind of connect a lot to her mental health struggles. I definitely was nervous, but also happy that it was being talked about.
Podcast Host
Lemon drops. This episode today is truly one for the books. I. I have Issa Barones on the show today and she actually stars in one of my, if not my favorite show that's out right now. The Pit. If you have not watched the Pit, it's a medical drama on hbo, and it truly is one of the best shows out there, and you need to watch it. If you haven't, it has honestly just, like, swept every award show. Because this show is so good. The way they do it is coming from a healthcare professional. The way they do the show truly is so good, and you're really able to see what healthcare workers go through. And it's one of my favorite shows. So I'm honored to have Issa with me today. And we just kind of dive into everything. Her background, how she got the Pit, what it's like being on the Pit. The Pit really covers some tough topics, and. And it's really just something that engulfs you as a viewer. And getting to hear what it's like as an actor on the show, to be a part of that was truly so special. She is so bright. I adore her. And she's also making her return to Broadway, which we dive into. And I'm so excited for you guys to hear this episode. Well, Issa, welcome to the Squeeze.
Issa Barones
Thanks for having me.
Podcast Host
This is so exciting because I'm, like, obsessed with the Pit.
Issa Barones
Thank you.
Podcast Host
Literally, my favorite. I have a background in nursing.
Issa Barones
Yes, I know. So I'm like, why? Why? Don't watch. Well. Okay. It's so.
Podcast Host
It's so funny because I actually put it off for a really long time.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And because I have, like, I worked during COVID and then I had really bad ptsd, depression, all the things I had to leave for my mental health.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
And so I was, like, really not wanting to watch it. And I just had so many friends. They were like, it's so good. And then it was just, like, doing so well. Like, the reputation was so good. I guess I have to. Yeah. And I've never watched a medical show, like, even, like, I never watched Craze. I never watched anything.
Issa Barones
I've never been a big medical show person either.
Podcast Host
Yeah. My husband, too. He was like, what's the hype about this? And I was like, I don't know. I kind of want to watch. And it's now, like, it's so funny to say, but it's literally my comfort show.
Issa Barones
Okay. And I've heard this from children, too. There are, like, children out there that are like, that's my comfort show. And I'm like, what does that say about the state of the world?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
That our kids are like, this is my comforting thing. But I. Yeah. I've always been like, with any healthcare professionals that watch the show, I'm like, don't do this to yourself. You're at work all day. Don't go back to work at night. But, yeah, it's also, I think, the. I don't know, we talk a lot about, like, representation matters, and it's like, this is one of those things where it's like, having your experience represented and feeling like, yeah, they got them. I'm not doing that right now, but I'm seeing that. Like, someone sees what I do. Yeah.
Podcast Host
I think because it's so, like, the audio, it's just like you're there. Like, there's no other audio that's playing.
Issa Barones
No. When they first told us there was not going to be any background music, we're like, okay, this is either going to really work or it's really not going to. Yeah, but it's what makes it feel so real, and it also makes it feel like you're a part of it. You're not watching a show. You're, like, exactly in it with the actors. And so it feels like we're kind of bringing you into it.
Podcast Host
Yeah. It's so good. Okay, well, we start each episode with this jar. A little game called Citrus Got Real. If you want to pull a little piece of paper out of there and read it to our lemon drops, those are our listeners.
Issa Barones
Lemon drops.
Podcast Host
I didn't place that one there. Just so you know. It was kind of sitting, like, right there. Open.
Issa Barones
What's your most used emoji? Oh, I mean, I. I use.
Podcast Host
I was just this a lot.
Issa Barones
I use the. The hand hearts. Yeah. But I also use the, like, melting face a lot.
Podcast Host
Uhhuh. Oh, I used salute a lot.
Issa Barones
Me too. No, it's like, if someone's like, okay, girls, we're. We're going to the bar at this time. It's like, yep, literally. But most of my days are like, the melting face.
Podcast Host
Yeah, that's that.
Issa Barones
It kind of applies to everything. It's like, either good melting, or there could be really bad melting.
Podcast Host
Very versatile. It is a very versatile emoji.
Issa Barones
I love that.
Podcast Host
Awesome. Well, I'm excited to, like, dive into your story. Obviously, we're going to get into the pit, but I want to get into, like, where your love for performing came from, because you've been doing this for, like, a long time.
Issa Barones
For a while. Yeah. Yeah. And, well, my parents are. Started out as musical theater actors, and so when I was born, I was born in London just because my dad happened to be closing out the West End production of Miss Igon that month.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And he hadn't even been doing it during that time for a while. It's not like he was in the West End production the whole time. It was just like they found out they were pregnant with me. They were broke in New York and they were like, what are we gonna do? And then they were like, hey, can you come back for the last few months to close out the production? And so I just was born there because they were there.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And then throughout my life, until I was like 9, my dad was doing different tours of Miss Saigon, like the European tour. We were in the Philippines for a while, which is where my dad is from. And so. But yeah, I was just kind of always around actors. And I think always being around theater is such a special thing because it's so ensemble based. And you just, you develop such a love of like, oh, everyone doing it together.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And I think that's the most. That's what I love the most about acting is like, who wants to do it in a vacuum? That's what made like Covid and auditioning in Covid so weird. Because you're like, I'm just doing now. All of a sudden it's all self tape. I'm in a room alone. Sometimes you don't even have a reader with you.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Sometimes you have to FaceTime your friends and then position their computer behind the camera. So that. And it just feels so like, oh, this is not what I love about the thing I chose to do with my life. It's being around people and working together. And so that's always been a part of my life. And even when we moved to LA for the first time because my parents were like, maybe we should give the kids some semblance of a normal life. And they're like, let's try auditioning for film and tv. And that wasn't going great because that is a really hard business to break into. And so it was many years of us just kind of auditioning and not getting anywhere. But the first thing that they did because they were like, we need community. Like, because none of our family was in la, we were the only ones.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
That we knew. And so they're like, well, we love theater, so let's do theater. And they did local theater, Did a production of ragtime at a 99 seat theater. And again, what I love about theater people is like doing theater in la, you are not making money. If anything, you are probably losing money to do it. And that's what makes the community of LA theater. So special because it's like, oh, people just have to do that. It's like, I have to do theater. I love it so much that I'm even gonna lose money so I can do it. And that was a lot of my, like, formative years was just being around theater people who were like, this is. I have to do this.
Podcast Host
Wow, that's so special. Did you ever feel like. Did it feel pressure? I'm sure it felt supportive from your parents, but because, like, they both had a background in that. Did you ever feel pressure to, like, live up to that?
Issa Barones
Well, I don't know. And also when I, like, first, I don't remember this, but my parents told me that when we moved to la, I asked them pretty quickly, like, so when can I audition for things? And they were like, yeah.
Podcast Host
Were they excited about that or not?
Issa Barones
They were definitely like, ah, shit.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Like, we've doomed her. Cause, you know, when you've been in this business, especially in theater and, like, trying to break into film and tv, it's. It's hard and it's mostly rejection.
Podcast Host
And. Yeah.
Issa Barones
And so they were like, oh, gosh, we doomed our kids to a really hard life. But I think. But of course they were like, we can't behave hypocrites. Like, that would be crazy. If you're like, no. Which I have met actors who are like, I will not let my child be mad.
Podcast Host
That's why I asked, because today Taylor is like, he. I mean, I've always told I, I grew up, I danced my whole life. Like, I love performing. And obviously he's acted since he was a child. And I'm like, hun, like, our kid, like, they're definitely gonna have that gene. He's like, why? He's like, I'm not gonna put them in it. But I think if they obviously, if they ask, we're not gonna be like,
Issa Barones
no, you can't do this.
Podcast Host
But he's so, like, he's nervous. He's definitely, like, a little nervous.
Issa Barones
No, this. My parents definitely were very scared. And I've thought about this to myself, like, one day, if I ever have a kid. Like, they're like, yeah, we were really nervous. What if they're not good? They're like, they're like, we want to support our child. What if they're not good? Like, that'll be so. And my parents and my dad says this all the time. He's like, thank God our kids are good, because that would have been really rough, rough time. Because my brother is also an Actor. And we both started auditioning very young. No. But they were always so supportive. And I think what is so special about it was, like, we all got to struggle together for a long time. It wasn't like, I was born and they were, like, off. I mean, they were doing theater, and that was, like, paying the bills and. Okay. For a while until I was nine. And then for a long time, for, like, probably a decade, it was like, okay, we're auditioning, but, you know, got. My dad was a massage therapist as well. My mom got her realtor's license and just trying to keep us afloat while also still pursuing that dream. And they were so scared to, like, pass that life on to us. But I'm like, thank God that was what I grew up with. And I didn't enter just, like, success and fame. It was like, no, no. This is what it is.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
1% experience, like, the really cool, glamorous side of it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And. But I got to really see the. The hard work that goes into it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And I think that really tests you to be like, do you actually want to do this?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Because I think there are a lot of people who go into it assuming, yeah, that's going to be really easy and exciting all the time. And I think because we saw all sides of it, it was like, okay, if you're gonna do this, it means you really. You love it, and you love the. Working at it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And working towards something. And now having, like. Like, the pit is beyond my wildest dreams of.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Because we've seen such hardship with it. I'm like, I didn't even think this was possible. And now to be able to, like, look at my parents and be like, look at what. What we did. This is crazy. No. That's so sweet.
Podcast Host
I know.
Issa Barones
I saw.
Podcast Host
I saw you brought your dad with you to actor awards.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
That was, like, now like, just hearing all that, like, that just, like, it was really makes it so much.
Issa Barones
It was really beautiful. I was very emotional the whole day because I think you can also get very. So much chaos is happening in those things. I'm still very new. I. Like, before the pit, I'd never been to an awards show. Like, I'd never. And all of that is so crazy.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And you can be so wrapped up in, like, okay, you have to go. Here, take these pictures. Blah, blah, blah. But I kept just stopping and, like, looking at my dad and just, like, tearing up. I was like, oh, my God. Did we ever think that's.
Podcast Host
No.
Issa Barones
Literally, like, because the goal when you've been like, the goal is to be a working actor.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Which is hopefully you get some guest stars here and there that can pay the bills and you're able to work semi consistently. That is the goal.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
The fact that now I'm like, get to be a part of a show, that I'm employed for multiple seasons, that it has reached this height, that people love it, that people know who I am now, it's like, that was not even a thing that I was striving towards. It was just like, I hope I can just do what I love and pay the bills.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Like, oh, it's. It's really crazy. And it's really special to get to share that with my parents, especially my dad coming from the Philippines. Like, he. He came to the. Well, he came. He left the Philippines when he was 23.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And for so long, it was just like, is this even worth it? Do I go home? Do I stay, like. And now. Yeah. It's very, very special.
Podcast Host
Very, like, full circle.
Issa Barones
Very, very, very full circle.
Podcast Host
Very sweet. I love hearing those types of stories, obviously. Like, you know, it's crazy when people audition for something the first time they ever acted and they, like, do so well and like, that.
Issa Barones
And the thing is, I also. I still got successes very early. Like, I'm very young and I'm. And that is like, the privilege of having parents who were going through it at the same time and getting to, like, jump on it with them was like, I got to start really early.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
But, yeah, it's still. It really is insane to be like, oh, wow, how. How quickly that happened.
Podcast Host
Yeah. It just makes it, like, so much more sweet that you, like, genuinely. I love when people just, like, have a love, like, for performing and just, like, genuinely don't care, like, what the role is, and they get to, like, do it because it's their passion and it's so fun for them and you
Issa Barones
can so quickly forget it. Yeah. I think especially when maybe more success comes, it can then become this machine. And I think that's been the thing that has freaked me out the most in this version of my career. Now that has been like, the last year and a half where you see, like, oh, I can see how people turn a corner and, like, maybe go the bad route of all of a sudden not caring about the actual art that they do, not caring about the acting or whatever creative outlet it is for them. And it's just about the pumping it out in the machine and, like, notoriety and, like, all that stuff. But, yeah, it. At the end of the day, you have to. The only way to, like, stay sane in any sort of way and to also remain so grateful and always checking in with like, I can't believe I'm here. It's like, I'd much rather always live in that than be like, yeah, this is just my life.
Podcast Host
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Issa Barones
Okay.
Podcast Host
I'm very excited. I want to know what your audition process was like. Obviously you knew it was like four. I'm sure you just have been like auditioning four things. Yeah.
Issa Barones
Okay. Well, so. Because like I've, I've, I've done TV shows before. I, I've been lucky enough to be a series regular before. But it's always been like, like that was a moment and then it dissipated. That was a moment, it dissipated. And, but there were such wonderful experiences and that's kind of what you come to expect at that point. When, when that was, it was like I had a season, it didn't get renewed. That's fine, like move on, like onto the next thing. And I also, I love theater and at the time when I was auditioning for the Pit, I was doing Hadestown on Broadway. And that when you're doing eight shows a week, it's really hard to like lock in and do auditions at the same time.
Podcast Host
Oh my gosh. I didn't even think about that.
Issa Barones
Your whole. Cause obviously you only work at night, but the whole day feels like work too because you are prepping to be able to do that and you're constantly having to keep your body in check, your voice in check, just making sure that you are able to do the best job you can at night while staying safe, not hurting yourself, all of those things. So it does feel like an all day job in a way of kind of forcing self care in a way. But then you have these auditions coming in because I, I knew that it was a four month run. I knew it was going to end at some point. So I was auditioning. There was a day where I had, I think it was a two show day. So I was like, I'm about to go leave for two shows and my boyfriend was helping me and I had an audition for a medical show and an audition for like a CIA show and I was like, I like could barely remember the lines and I was like, I feel so frazzled. And I started having a meltdown. I was like, you Know what? I shouldn't even audition. I shouldn't even audition. No one's gonna believe me as a doctor. Who's gonna believe me as a doctor? A CIA agent? Like, it doesn't even matter. And then he was like, okay, so we're just gonna take a breath.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And he was like, just, it's fine. Just do it. Like, just doesn't even matter. Like, you know what? Read it off the thing. And I did. I had my iPad and I was like, you know what? They have charts. That's fine. Yeah, my iPad here. And I'm reading off of this. And I did it. And I was like, that was terrible. No one's gonna believe me. Whatever. Right. He sent it off. And I feel like it's always those auditions. In my experience, those. The ones where you're terrible. It doesn't even matter. No one's gonna even watch it. That are the ones that go. Actually become fruitful. And then. Yeah, when I was. I was still doing the show and I had like, a zoom callback, I was the only one of the American cast, I think, that didn't go in. In person at all because I just couldn't because I was the schedule that I had. And so zoom callback and then another one. And so in relatively, it was a pretty quick process because it was so like, we're up and running in, like, June. Yeah. All while doing the eight shows a week. And then my run ended. Was always planned to end. It was a week before the show started filming. But it was in the middle of the two weeks of medical boot camp. Yes. And they were like, you can't miss that. You have to go to that. So for my last week of shows, I missed Tuesday through Friday with, like, personal days, went to la, did medical boot camp, had My Best Friend's wedding. I went to go to that. And then that night at like, 3am, flew back to New York, did my evening Saturday show, and then my Sunday matinee with my bags at the airport, and then flew right back to LA and started the pit, which was crazy. Kind of a whirlwind. But I also think theater people, that's like. That's what you're primed for.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Because that's also the dream. It's like, God, thank God, I'm booked and blessed. Yeah. I'm gonna do whatever I can to make sure everything works.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
But definitely a crazy start to a very intense process.
Podcast Host
Yeah. Well, I was dying to know what this medical boot camp was like. I'm so curious.
Issa Barones
Well, we were on the stages at Warner Brothers. Okay. So we had, like a big empty stage. It was before it was being used. It was also still very soon after, kind of recovering from the SAG strike. From all the strikes. So, like, nothing was filming.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
On Warner Brothers, it was very. It was ghost town. We were the only production for months.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
But, yeah, we had like a big empty soundstage and these foldable tables and a whiteboard and these incredible doctors, half of whom work with us every day. And consulting is not the word, because they are choreographing, they are teaching us constantly, and they are writing. They're in the writers room as well. And yeah, we just kind of got a little two week crash course in our two week med school. But the thing is, they couldn't obviously really teach us too much in two weeks. But I think really the biggest takeaway of it was it was showing us what questions we should ask is how I kind of viewed it. Obviously, we ran through some of the basic procedures, like, taught us how to intubate and taught us how to suture, taught us how to do pericardiocentesis. Like all of these different things on dummies. But the biggest takeaway was like, oh, now I know when I go into a scene. Because we. We had a lot of prep time for that first episode, but after that, it's like, you're off to the races. There's no time to rehearse and do all of that.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
So I had to. We had to, like, take that time to be like, now we know going into. Every time we enter a trauma scene to make it go as smoothly as possible. What are the questions I need to ask? Where. What are the. And the main thing for me it was like, oh, yeah, I'm saying jargon. Where am I looking? What. What am I looking at? What. Where am I getting this information from? Who am I saying it to? Who. Like, that was the biggest thing. It's like you can memorize lines all you want, but I actually don't know the ins and outs of where this information goes and what it really means. And also just I found it makes it so much easier to memorize these lines that to someone who is not a health care professional. Sounds like gibberish.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
To actually know exactly what you're talking about. So I think we all. I mean, they did a great job of overviewing certain basic procedures. But then whenever I have, like, a new trauma scene, I always look it up and I'm like, okay, what exactly? Watch videos of like, what is the procedure? So I can kind of see it in my mind.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
That way, when I have to say these words, it's like, I understand what it is. Because if you're saying it and, you know nothing, it's like, that's just gonna go right out of my head.
Podcast Host
No, for sure. Yeah. And you, like, you know, depending on what you're saying, like your body language and like, how you're, like, actually, like, saying it definitely changes.
Issa Barones
Getting to talk to so many different doctors. To me, being so far from the medical field before this, I. I think you just think of medical professionals as like, these heroes, obviously, but in a way that can be such a disservice to their humanity, where it's like, oh, these people are. They're superheroes. They're saving lives. They're. Nothing affects them. And they're so strong and like, blah, blah, blah. It's like, yeah, they're very strong and they are amazing, and they're heroes and they're human beings who are going through their own shit, who are getting affected by cases and have to be the strong one for the family, for. For the patient. There's so much mentally that goes into it. And so getting to talk to all these different doctors and be like, oh, right, yeah, you're a human being. You have a personality. Your personality is very. That person. And being like, right, I'm not playing a doctor. I'm playing a fucking doctor.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Who has. Who's just a person.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And that was a cool kind of breaking down of the wall of this. This artifice that it's like, oh, this is someone who isn't affected by anything, because that's not an interesting thing to play. And it's also just not true. And so that was a really great help from getting to talk to all of these doctors and nurses and seeing their unique personalities come through and how that comes through in high stress situations and through the medicine.
Podcast Host
Yeah, no, that's so true. I think that's what I think. That's. I mean, obviously there's, like, little things in the show that I love of, like, I love when they show someone going to the bathroom. Like, I love, like, in the first season, like, they literally follow, like, Noah the whole time.
Issa Barones
And then it's like effortlessly trying to go, finally peas.
Podcast Host
I'm like, this is like, so like, it's like little things like that that I'm like, it's cool because it, like. Like you were saying the way it dives into, like, each character being an actual human and like, having their own thing going on, like, they're not just this superhero at work. It's. I think that's, like, really what, like, draws you into. Because it's like a reminder that they really are.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Humans.
Issa Barones
And because we've gotten shows before where you get a lot of personality, but you also aren't seeing a whole lot of medicine.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And so getting to marry the two makes it the most realistic it can be.
Podcast Host
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Issa Barones
you see in her big time? You know, she gets a real bad rep for being kind of a. And. And whatever. And, and I think starting out, I saw her almost in a similar way where I was like, oh, yeah. She, like, is. Is kind of no good sometimes, but the more I got to do it and I don't live in it, I was like, damn, we're really similar. Because obviously not nice. Don't be mean. Don't be mean ever. But the insecurities that they. All that all of her behaviors come from, I'm just like, yeah, obviously again, she's a human being and I do kind of connect a lot to her mental health struggles and to the walls she puts up. Because all of that, anytime she's kind of out punching at someone else, it's because she's really scared inside and trying to protect herself. And I very much relate to that. I also think she's funny and I hope I'm funny the way they write her. Really funny. Yeah, they do a really great job.
Podcast Host
No, I think, I think. Don't worry. No, I, I feel like, what, like being a few episodes into season one, your character definitely was the one that I was like, intrigued by the most because I, I know people in the healthcare world that do have that really, like, tough exterior that they put on and there's a whole other side. So I've been really excited to watch your character grow.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Especially in season two. You know, we have that bathroom scene where you see the scars on her leg. I'm curious, when you read that in the script, what's like the first thing that goes through your mind when you read that?
Issa Barones
Well, actually, they told me about it beforehand.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Issa Barones
Because they wanted to make sure that I was okay with that, which was great. Wow. Scott Gamble, he's awesome. He, he. Whenever there's something really like, sensitive or personal, he'll reach out and kind of ask about it. And yeah, I think I was nervous because that's a very vulnerable thing to play and showcase. And also I think we've seen a lot of misuse of self harm plot lines in the past. And so I was nervous about it. I was like, okay, if we're doing this, then we have to really do it right. And, and, you know, I still don't know because we don't see the episodes in advance. So I'm, I'm, I'm still nervous. I'm like, I hope this plays and I hope it comes off okay. And, and. But they're also so collaborative. And I had a lot to say about it because I was like, I want this to be done as well as possible and as sensitively as possible. So I would email the writers and with kind of my thoughts on how to explore it. And they were very open to that. But yeah, I definitely was nervous, but also happy that it was being talked about because I think we, we, we explore a lot of mental health things in this show, obviously, especially, like, with, you know, the main focus being Robbie and his ptsd. And now in this season, it's becoming clear, like, what is this motorcycle trip? Like, what are you really about to do? And that's a very important question, a very important conversation. But also, I think when we're always talking about it, kind of like, yeah, I feel like most of the scenes have been like him being like, I'm gonna go kill myself anyway. And it's like, oh, my God.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And so getting to look at it through different characters and how it manifests differently for everyone, I think is the coolest part of it. Because it is not the same for everyone. Yeah, obviously, especially from different ages, from different backgrounds. Like, it's, it's. It varies in experience. And yeah, I'm, I'm excited that we talk about it, but also nervous because it's a, it's definitely a vulnerable, Vulnerable thing.
Podcast Host
Yeah. I love what you just said about, like, how everyone kind of like takes it differently and people come from such, like, the ages and the backgrounds and there's the biggest reason. What took me so long to, like, actually quit? I. Well, it's actually. It's funny because I ended up. I worked on Covet. I was. I started originally as a, like, telemetry cardiac nurse, and then we switched to Covet. I was coveted for about six months. And then we kind of went back. I would like float to the COVID unit here and there. But then I ended up. I never got coveted working. I ended up visiting Taylor on set and I got coveted. I was like, of all places. Yeah, no, it was.
Issa Barones
Jesus.
Podcast Host
It was.
Issa Barones
It was really just so. It was really good.
Podcast Host
But I ended up getting like, long covet. I was so sick, I had to go on disability for two months. I literally couldn't work. I couldn't leave the house. But I think that was my body being like, dude, you gotta, like, check in with yourself. You're like, not okay. But the nursing culture, and I know this is just like something in hospitals as well. No matter what profession you are in the healthcare field, there's definitely like a toxic, like, there's obviously like, seniority, but there's also like a. You have to tough it out to work through this.
Issa Barones
And like, doesn't matter.
Podcast Host
Yeah, just I have so many, like, nurses on my floor. Be like, I've. I'm the only one, like, from my new grad program. I'm the only one that could do it. And like, they would make jokes about, like, because it was me and another girl who were like, the new nurses on the floor. And they were like, let's see which one of you lasts longer. Like, and it's just like, it's so interesting, like, that culture, so. And I'm like, I'm stubborn. So, like, I'm like, I'm not a quitter. Like, I literally just like, worked my ass off in school. Like, this is like, I never wanted to go in the hospital originally, but because everything closed, I was like, oh, no. I, like, want to do. Here we go. Yeah. So I got that job and I was like, great, guess I'm doing this. But I was so stubborn about, like, not wanting to quit. I'm so thankful that I ended up getting Covid because I would have just like gone down to part time and like, you know, played with that a little bit and I would have. It would have taken me so much longer to actually address my mental health. But I feel like what the show really shows you is that everyone is actually going through something and everyone can go through, like, with the whole pit fest thing, you were all. All of these characters are experiencing the same. Literally the same thing, but everyone's gonna go home and, like, take it differently. Yeah. So that's what I love, like, it. That this show does. Is it really? Obviously, you know, every patient, everything that every person that comes in is, you know, things that either need to be talked about or, you know, like, common, like liver cirrhosis, like, something like that. But also it's so important that we're getting to see, like, how these things affect these healthcare professionals.
Issa Barones
That's. It's also funny. I mean, obviously to a very different degree. I'm not saying we're the same, but in, like, with acting, I feel like you get that kind of toxic environment and that headspace of like, okay, I'm going to. I'm going to work myself to death. And that is. I have to feel, like, really proud of that. It's a very capitalist mindset. It's like, it's. It's built into the world we live in. And I've felt it as a theater actor. You get a lot of theater actors who feel really high and mighty of like, I've never called out and I'm like, good for you. That's great. But also, maybe you need to sometimes. And maybe you need to, like, because if you're muscling through everything, then something really bad could happen later. Like, I've seen people muscle through and then they fully lose their voice forever.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And it's like that, or they. Or you fully burn out and you're like, I cannot go back to the hospital. Like, there's. There's really no good. Comes from working yourself to death and making it this, like, point of pride. And. And we make it this way of being like, I'm better than you, and. And unfortunately, again, just a product of capitalism. But I think getting. I feel like we're in a better time now. It's still not great, but we're getting to that point where we're talking about it. And I think that's the most important thing is talking. And when you share like, oh, this is what I'm going through. This is what you're going through. Oh, we're going through the same thing. Maybe there's something wrong. Like, maybe something needs to be done here.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And it's all parallel.
Podcast Host
No matter.
Issa Barones
Like, yeah.
Podcast Host
You know, no matter what the career is, the feelings are, everything is very, like. It's very parallel. It's all.
Issa Barones
And having a show like the pit is a version of talking about it. It's inviting conversation. It's inviting people to look at this and be like, do you think that this is okay?
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Because a lot of it is hoping that people walk away with more empathy for healthcare professionals, obviously. But it's also like, it's human stories. That's what all of this is for. That's why I love to act. That's why we love to, to create. Because it's all about telling stories about us.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And trying to learn from it instead of repeating mistakes over and over again.
Podcast Host
So true. How? Because you've been in just busy season between busy time, busy times, filming, press, word season, all the things. How, how do you prioritize your mental health? Because I'm sure this like the swing is probably like a lot to handle.
Issa Barones
Yeah, it's definitely hard. I. But because I've had, again, I've had different levels of it.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
When I've worked before, there were those moments and they were also very niche things. Still Star Trek and there's goosebumps. So it was like, yeah, there are niche sectors of people are, are watching this. It's not like full blown. Everyone's watching. And this is the first time I've been in something where it's like, oh no, no, everyone's watching it. Which is amazing and a blessing. But it, it definitely changes your worldview a little bit. And also how you view. It can be hard to not always be looking at yourself through other people's eyes because you become so aware of being perceived. And that can be a little scary when you always are thinking like, but what does this person think of me? And like, how would I look at me if I were that person? And. And then it becomes so me centric. And that is really scary because I'll like stop for a second, be like, I've been thinking about me and my perception so much and like, God, go outside, like go volunteer to hug someone. My God. And I think that has become. Yeah. The biggest thing is like finding ways to kind of step out of it that I think has been easier in the past. This is like we work, we film for so long, we're filming for eight months out of the year and then we have like three months of a break and then we go back and so you kind of feel like you're always in it. And obviously I'm not saying my experience is anywhere close to as traumatic as an actual healthcare professional, but when you are, it's different in that environment.
Podcast Host
The same. But Different.
Issa Barones
It's. It definitely kind of gets to you. And there's like, a thing that a lot of actors say. It's a famous quote that your brain knows you're acting, but your body doesn't. And so when you're kind of always in that environment and even though it's acting, you're still seeing, like, someone's guts spilling out and someone writhing in pain and screaming, or you're seeing this child crying. It's like, oh, my God. Like, oof. I know. I was just acting and it wasn't that much of my day. But then I go home and I feel, like, terrible and so real. That's been kind of a new. I don't have the answer of what my kind of mental health centering and grounding is it. I'm still finding it because it is. It kind of changes every day. And, yeah, it's a lot, but I think it's been a lot of leaning on people. Like my friends.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Thank God for my friends. Oh, my God. I, like, I've thought about this a lot. I, For a long time, did not have a group of girls. I didn't have, like, my girls.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Because when I was, like, a teenager, I had a group of girls in it, and it went very badly, and it was, like, very sad. And then about three years ago was when I gained just kind of suddenly this group of amazing women. And that. Because I. The way that my mental issues kind of can manifest is really isolating.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And really just kind of going into my hole and, like, stewing. And because I've gained all these friends, it's like, who also go through these things. They're like, no, no, come out, come out. You gotta come out. You gotta come be with the girls. Yeah. And I think that's been the biggest lifesaver is you just have to have a community. You have to have people around you who also. Who get what's going on too. Which can be hard and isolating too, when you're in a weird situation. Like, this is something that now is such an unrelatable situation. I hate how unrelatable I am. Like, this is crazy. I'm experiencing such wonderful, beautiful, amazing things with success in whatever form that is. But it also comes with a different set of. Some people just don't want to be your friend anymore because they're like, I can't relate to you. And, like, you trigger an insecurity in me. And it's like, that's so valid and that's so okay. But also, like, Damn.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
Lost. Lost some people there. And you have to keep trying to find the people who won't leave, who will stick with you, who will always understand what you're going through and listen to you. And. Yeah, it's just. Thank God. Thank God for my girls.
Podcast Host
Yeah. That's so special. Heading into the last few episodes of this season, what are you most excited for people to see this season? Like, what can they expect? What are you looking forward to? To watching, I guess, because you don't get to see the episodes ahead of
Issa Barones
time for these last couple episodes.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
I'd never remember what happens in this show because we filmed for so long. You're like, where am I, God? When we, like, started our press tour, and they were like, so, episode one. And I was like, you're like, okay.
Podcast Host
I don't know, because you. I'm assuming you guys don't. Do you film in. You don't film in order?
Issa Barones
Yes, we do.
Podcast Host
You do.
Issa Barones
No. It's amazing. It's a beautiful gift. We film in order. Everything is chronological except for, like, if there's something that, oh, this is filmed outside. We'll do that a week later.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
And in Pittsburgh. We go to Pittsburgh for a week and we shoot all the Pittsburgh things. Got it. But for the most part, we are all in order. And that's amazing. That makes our lives and our jobs so much easier. But it also does mean that, like, you go on to the next one, it's like, yeah, it's out. That one's gone.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
No idea. But no going into these last ones. I think I'm. I'm excited about continue. If continuing to fall. Follow Santos, and with her kind of mental health struggles, getting to see her slowly letting people in, slowly letting herself have a community. I do feel like Issa is going to Sandra's, like, come on, you gotta have friends. And. And I think. And I think it's true for a lot of the characters is the. You see a lot of people starting to really lean on each other, and you start to. You start to see it even now. I mean, with whatever episode is out now. Like, as you go on, you start to see chairs and people kind of finding their people and. And I think it's. It's. That's a really beautiful message of the last couple episodes is finding your people and finding the ones you can lean on and be yourself with and actually, like, let down the walls with.
Podcast Host
That's special. I'm like. I, like, don't. I don't want it to end so I really don't know when I'm gonna, like, watch. I mean, I definitely, like, binge it.
Issa Barones
Well, have you gone back and watched Er? No, because that's. That's okay. What I hear is, like, the thing.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Issa Barones
That's what you're supposed to do.
Podcast Host
Okay. Yeah, maybe that'll be.
Issa Barones
That's what my mom did.
Podcast Host
Okay, great. So maybe I'll finish this and then
Issa Barones
I'll go, and then she'll just be texting me and she'll be like, Noah. Oh, God. Noah with his drinking. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.
Podcast Host
That's so funny. Okay, well, last little thing, A little birdie maybe told me that you're heading back to Broadway. Yeah. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
Issa Barones
Yeah, yeah, I'm about to. I'm literally tonight gonna fly to New York because I'm gonna jump into a show called Just in Time. It is about Bobby Darin, the singer from 50s and 60s, and I play Connie Francis. Sarah Hyland is playing it right now. She's incredible. I got to see her a few weeks ago. She's so wonderful. And, yeah, I'm really excited to. To jump into it. I love theater. I miss theater. I think when we're doing these long stints of filming the pit, once I'm done, I'm like, I have to go back.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Issa Barones
I need to touch people. Yeah. And. And I miss singing, and I get to really sing in this. It's so fun. But, yeah, I'll be. My first show is April 1st. I'll be on with first with Matthew Morrison and then Jeremy Jordan. Very, very.
Podcast Host
Wait. I'm gonna be in New York in that time.
Issa Barones
Come, wait. Come wait.
Podcast Host
No, I really will.
Issa Barones
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Oh, my gosh.
Issa Barones
Wait.
Podcast Host
This is so exciting.
Issa Barones
Text me.
Podcast Host
This is so exciting.
Issa Barones
Let's go out.
Podcast Host
Oh, my gosh.
Issa Barones
I love it. Yay.
Podcast Host
Yay.
Issa Barones
Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me.
Podcast Host
Chatting is so fun.
Issa Barones
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Isa Briones: Stepping Into Santos
March 25, 2026
Host: Taylor Lautner
Guest: Isa Briones
In this rich, heartfelt episode of The Squeeze, host Taylor Lautner welcomes acclaimed actress Isa Briones to discuss her breakout role as Dr. Santos on HBO’s medical drama "The Pit." The conversation centers on mental health in both healthcare and entertainment, Isa’s journey from theater to television, the gritty realities of portraying medical professionals, and her personal experiences navigating fame and vulnerability. The episode also explores the impact of accurate representation on screen, the enduring need for community and self-care in high-pressure careers, and Isa’s upcoming Broadway return.
Juggling Auditions and Broadway
While performing in "Hadestown" on Broadway, Isa faced the stress of overlapping auditions for “The Pit” and a CIA show, doubting her ability to convincingly play a doctor or agent.
Support & Serendipity
Her boyfriend encouraged her to submit the tape anyway, and, as Isa says, “It’s always those auditions… that are the ones that go, actually become fruitful.” [24:09-24:25]
Hands-On Training
The cast underwent an intense two-week bootcamp at Warner Bros. with medical professionals, learning to intubate, suture, and perform various procedures on dummies.
Commitment to Accuracy
The show employs doctors not just as consultants, but as choreographers and writers, ensuring authenticity from jargon to medical practice.
Humanizing Healthcare Professionals
Isa shares how meeting real doctors broke the “superhero” stereotype, helping her focus on Dr. Santos as a complex person, not just a role.
Theatrical Roots
Raised in a family of working theater actors, Isa grew up on international tours and local LA theater. She observed firsthand the hardships and sacrifices behind the craft.
Value of the Struggle
Isa credits early years of hustle and rejection for giving her perspective, keeping her grounded despite sudden fame.
Pressure & Parental Support
With both parents in the business, Isa felt a supportive, if anxious, environment. Her dad often joked, “Thank God our kids are good, because that would have been really rough…” [11:04]
Diving Deep with Dr. Santos
Taylor points out the rare complexity of Isa’s character, and Isa explains how she relates to Dr. Santos’ defenses, insecurities, and humor.
Handling Sensitive Plotlines
Addressing a pivotal scene involving self-harm scars, Isa advocates for careful, collaborative handling of mental health themes.
Broadening the Conversation
Both Taylor and Isa agree the show’s strength lies in its broad, authentic depiction of how trauma and mental health manifest differently for each character.
Burnout in Healthcare & Acting
The conversation turns to unhealthy cultures of overwork and ‘toughness’ in both fields.
The Power of Sharing
“I think that's the most important thing is talking. And when you share like, oh, this is what I'm going through…Maybe there's something wrong. Like, maybe something needs to be done here.” — Isa Briones [45:35]
Adjusting to Visibility
With "The Pit"’s soaring popularity, Isa addresses the impact of public scrutiny and the importance of stepping outside herself.
Community as Lifeline
Isa expresses deep gratitude for her group of friends, particularly a circle of women who help pull her out of isolating spirals and keep her grounded.
Looking Ahead in "The Pit"
Isa teases upcoming episodes, describing themes of vulnerability and community as her character slowly allows others in.
Broadway Return
Isa will next star in "Just in Time," portraying Connie Francis, opposite Matthew Morrison and Jeremy Jordan, excited to “go back and touch people” and sing live again.
On Comfort Shows:
“I've heard this from children, too. There are, like, children out there that are like, that's my comfort show. And I'm like, what does that say about the state of the world?” — Isa Briones [04:30]
On Staying Centered:
“At the end of the day, you have to. The only way to, like, stay sane in any sort of way and to also remain so grateful… is like, I can't believe I'm here.” — Isa Briones [15:58]
On Fostering Empathy:
“A lot of it is hoping that people walk away with more empathy for healthcare professionals, obviously. But it's also like, it's human stories. That's what all of this is for.” — Isa Briones [45:53]
Isa Briones’ story is one of humility amid rapid success, commitment to authentic storytelling, and an ongoing journey to self-care in the face of industry and cultural pressures. Both Isa and Taylor encourage empathy for those in high-stress fields—on screen and in real life—while making space for vulnerability, humor, and community support. Listeners are left inspired, understood, and ready to keep the conversation around mental health alive.