Kevin Jonas: Embracing Change

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Squeeze – "Kevin Jonas: Embracing Change"

Host: Taylor Lautner (and co-host Taylor Lautner)
Guest: Kevin Jonas
Date: November 19, 2025

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Overview

This episode of The Squeeze dives into mental health, personal growth, and navigating change with Kevin Jonas of the Jonas Brothers. Kevin opens up about the challenges of identity, burnout, and family while living life in the spotlight—including his journey into solo music, reconnecting with therapy, raising kids, and the meaning of “success” after years of fame. The conversation is rich with vulnerability, humor, and behind-the-scenes stories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Touring, Burnout, and Balancing Family (00:11, 23:09, 25:45)

• The demanding logistics of touring and the evolution of the Jonas Brothers’ approach as they’ve matured.
  • [00:13] Kevin Jonas: “When we were younger, we did not understand how to celebrate the wins. It was always the next thing. And that’s part of the young, young hustle.”
• Kevin details the relentless pace of early career: waking up at 5:30 a.m., radio stops, meet-and-greet marathons, and back-to-back shows without pause (24:28).
• Burnout: Kevin addresses recognizing signs of burnout, especially as a parent separated by tour life, and his strategies for “hard resets” and prioritizing family time.
  • [26:06] Kevin Jonas: “Not everyone can breathe at 30,000ft, right?... The burnout is real. You have to prioritize your time at home.”
• How technology (like FaceTime) has helped stay connected, and the conscious choice to not make his daughters’ lives revolve around his work.

2. Identity, Change, and Mental Health (13:00, 29:55, 38:29)

• Open discussion about the confusion and loss of identity during and after the Jonas Brothers’ breakup.
  • [29:55] Kevin Jonas: “I didn’t know I could have depression. And I did, because I didn’t know my identity outside of this band... Who am I?”
• The importance of seeking therapy, especially after the emotional come-down from tours and long stretches away from home.
  • [38:29] Kevin Jonas: “I actually sought out a therapist after our last tour, to be honest. I came home from Europe and I just was not in a good spot…The serotonin drop was maybe too much.”
• How Kevin and his wife Danielle benefit from having the same therapist, allowing for individual and collective growth.
  • [39:57] Kevin Jonas: “Sometimes I feel like therapy, if it’s only one sided, is like—well, aren’t you only getting half the story?”

3. Parenting & The Spotlight (34:33, 34:48)

• Navigating celebrity parenthood, letting children explore acting or performing but cautioning about rejection and pressures.
  • [35:55] Kevin Jonas: “I will support. ... But at the same time, I will let them understand there’s more rejection in this than there is in anything in your life.”
• Reflections on his own parents not knowing fully what the entertainment business entailed, but that openness to risk set the stage for his career.
• The role reversal—his children are now super fans, organizing their own experiences at Jonas Brothers shows.

4. Creative Projects & Camp Rock Legacy (14:00, 14:11, 34:48)

• Kevin shares about wrapping the new Camp Rock and a family Christmas movie—his entire family, including his daughters, have roles in these projects (14:11, 34:48).
• He reveals the “passing of the baton” to a new generation in Camp Rock, marveling at the talent of young performers raised on TikTok and YouTube.
  • [15:24] Kevin Jonas: “These kids are so talented. I think it has a lot to do with like TikTok and the way they can dance and perform. They’re like light years ahead of us.”

5. Vulnerability, Performance Anxiety, and New Music (42:23, 42:59, 44:05)

• Kevin gets candid about nerves leading up to his first solo performance at Fenway:
  • [43:08] Kevin Jonas: “This moment, my God. I was an anxious—oh. I spoke to my therapist four times that day.”
• The vulnerability of stepping into a lead vocal role, battling inner doubt, and ultimately finding the right song.
  • [49:18] Kevin Jonas: “And then I saw the video of Danielle seeing it happen and that’s when it—like, I was in tears after.”
• On his shift toward solo work:
  • [49:37] Kevin Jonas: “I’ve cut more music with the same team. I’m working on more stuff. Not sure what it will be or what I’ll do with it, but as of now, I am.”
• The creative process and need for the “right song” as a catalyst.
  • [47:16] Kevin Jonas: “Honestly, people ask, so why now? Why are you doing it? I’m like, honestly, because I found the song.”

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Dealing with Burnout:
  “The burnout is real... I have only missed two days at home on non-days off on this entire run on this tour.”
  — Kevin Jonas [26:06]

• On Therapy and Change:
  “How about you just, like, take a whole week off of all your phones, electronics, and just be, be hyper present... By the end of that week, I didn’t think about anything else other than just being part of everything.”
  — Kevin Jonas [40:00]

• On Impostor Syndrome and First Solo Performance:
  “Not knowing if I was ever feeling like it was right or if I could do it. Just being honest, like, I didn’t feel like I was good enough.”
  — Kevin Jonas [45:51]

• On Identity Crisis After the Band:
  “Who am I?... I’ve been doing this since I was 15 years old. Who am I?”
  — Kevin Jonas [29:55]

• On Parenting in the Spotlight:
  “If you can’t handle that, and if we can’t work through the highs and lows together, then we shouldn’t be doing this.”
  — Kevin Jonas [35:55]

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Fun & Human Moments

• Camp Rock Audition Story
  Taylor Lautner shares he almost landed the Camp Rock role that Joe Jonas eventually played, making it to the final three—despite not being able to sing or dance. The story leads to laughs and bonding over “what-ifs” (17:24).

  • [18:59] Kevin Jonas (jokingly): “Should we help you find therapy? ... Instead of saying you broke my heart, you can just say thank you.”
  • [21:23] Kevin Jonas: Details how the Jonas Brothers as a band were cast for Camp Rock after initially turning down a solo offer for Joe.

• On Spontaneity in Shows
  Kevin recounts their on-tour tradition of letting fans request songs spontaneously, sometimes playing for 30 minutes straight based on requests (50:19).

• Family Cameo in Christmas Film
  “The whole family’s in the movie at certain points... My youngest is like, I want to be in movies, I want to be on TV, Dad.”
  — Kevin Jonas [34:48]

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Timeline of Key Segments

• 00:11 – Tour life, band dynamic & origin of identity crisis
• 13:00 – Family discussion, moving back to New Jersey
• 14:11 – Camp Rock & new movie projects
• 23:09 – Effects of touring, then vs. now; burnout, family balancing
• 29:55 – The band's breakup, depression, and reinvention
• 34:33 – Parenting, daughters’ aspirations, and supporting their interests
• 38:29 – Therapy journey and tools for mental health
• 42:23 – First solo song: nerves, process, and aftermath
• 45:51 – Vulnerability around singing lead
• 47:53 – New solo music and creative direction

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation is candid, warm, and self-aware, with the Lautners' signature down-to-earth empathy. Kevin Jonas is vulnerable yet hopeful, balancing humor and honesty about mental health, family, and the realities of pop stardom.

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Summary Takeaways

• Even in the “lime-est” limelight, struggles with self-worth, change, and family balance are universal.
• Therapy and vulnerability are crucial components to Kevin’s ongoing growth.
• The Jonas Brothers’ journey continues to evolve, now including new solo work, family collaborations, and a commitment to mental wellness.
• Support systems—partners, friends, colleagues—are essential to thriving through the transitions and “hard resets” that come with fame, parenthood, and change.

Listeners leave with reassurance that no matter how bright the spotlight, “you are not alone.”

Transcript

[Podcast Host]

The following podcast is a Dear Media.

[Interviewer 1]

Production Teenage Heartthrobs the Jonas Brothers, Nick, Joe and Kevin.

[Kevin Jonas]

It seems that these boys simply can't.

[Interviewer 1]

Put a foot wrong right now.

[Interviewer 2]

Kevin, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, thank you so much for having me. When we were younger, we did not understand how to celebrate the wins. It was always the next thing. And that's part of the young, young hustle. We say this all the time. It's like, not everyone can breathe at 30,000ft. When the band broke up, I really didn't know if we would ever make music again. I didn't know I could have depression. And I did because I just didn't know my identity outside of this band. Well, I'm Kevin Jones from the drums post. It's like, yeah, well, that's who I am. That's my job. Once that's gone, oh, God. I've been doing this since I was 15 years old. Who am I? I actually sought out. Sought out a therapist after our last tour. To be honest, I just was not in a good spot. I think the serotonin drop was just maybe too much. I think I had to do almost do like a full, like, reset, Like a hard reset. Then I was like, oh, thank God I missed this. I don't sing lead in the songs. It's really Joe and Nick. I've always sang. They always encouraged me. It was never that. It was myself always kind of holding myself back, not knowing if I was ever feeling like it was right or if I could. Could do it. Just being honest. Like, I didn't feel like it was. I was good enough. This moment. My God, I am blackout. I'm super nervous. I'm just hyper focused on just singing and getting through it. I couldn't even play the guitar in the very beginning of the song, which is what I do.

[Interviewer 2]

Do you know im? Yeah, I crushed that zero.

[Kevin Jonas]

No, Like, I just. And then I saw the video of Danielle seeing it happen, and that's when it, like, I was, like, in tears after people ask, so why now? Why are you doing it? I'm like, honestly, because I found the song.

[Interviewer 1]

Are you wanting to do more solo stuff?

[Kevin Jonas]

As of now, I am.

[Interviewer 2]

Kevin, welcome to the Squeeze.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, thank you so much for having me.

[Interviewer 2]

We are so excited to have you and so honored to have you with your crazy schedule right now. I can't believe you were able to fit this in. So thank you.

[Kevin Jonas]

No problem. Full disclosure for everyone listening. I've moved it five times today already on this, so I, you know, luckily can move it.

[Interviewer 2]

We can start over.

[Kevin Jonas]

Move it again.

[Interviewer 2]

We'll be back here in an hour.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Unintentionally had to move it. We got out of the hotel a little. A little slower than expected this morning. And that happens.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, for sure.

[Interviewer 1]

It. It honestly worked out well for us because we've been having some plumbing issues this morning. So it honestly, the timing worked out great.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, we will.

[Kevin Jonas]

Great being adults and they say, like, buy a house, it'll be great. You know a toilet that just doesn't work.

[Interviewer 1]

No, no. And this. We've been having quite a few. Quite a few issues. Yeah. I woke up to a text from my neighbor being like, hey, are you draining your pool? Because there's a lot of water coming out.

[Interviewer 2]

Our driveway is a river right now.

[Interviewer 1]

We're about to have to jackhammer our driveway after this, so.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, no, it was actually good that you pushed it a bit because we were in the midst of dealing with that.

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, you know, I did it for you guys.

[Interviewer 1]

Thank you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Appreciate it.

[Interviewer 1]

So thoughtful. So thoughtful.

[Kevin Jonas]

You're so welcome.

[Interviewer 2]

Let's just start with tour. You're on tour. We've been keeping up with all the videos and stuff. We've actually. Fun story. We've tried to come.

[Interviewer 1]

It's not a fun outcome, but. Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, but we've tried to come see you guys twice and twice, if not three times, honestly. And never have been able to just because actually once we tried to come see you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Just tell me it's not us.

[Interviewer 2]

No, it's not you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Okay.

[Interviewer 2]

No, I was like, what? No, the first time I think we tried to come see you and this wasn't this tour.

[Kevin Jonas]

Right. Okay.

[Interviewer 1]

I feel like you guys, like, have it stopped, So I don't really know.

[Kevin Jonas]

We like to tour.

[Interviewer 1]

So I don't know when this works.

[Kevin Jonas]

We should enter my interview my wife about how she's coping with me being gone.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh, great, great. We'll have her on next. Do a nice little two part. But no, I think it was sometime last. Sometime last year we were going to go to Austin and our flight got delayed, delayed, delayed, and then canceled. But we were flying there the same day as the show, so we didn't.

[Podcast Host]

End up making it.

[Interviewer 1]

And then when you guys are out here last time we were planning on.

[Podcast Host]

Going and then something came up for.

[Interviewer 1]

Work and so we ended up being out of town. All the dates that you got, it's just. It hasn't.

[Interviewer 2]

But we're dying to come see you.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's.

[Interviewer 2]

That's the point.

[Kevin Jonas]

What are you doing? What are you doing for Thanksgiving? Seriously, what are you doing for Thanksgiving?

[Interviewer 2]

We may be in. Yeah, we may be in Idaho, unfortunately.

[Kevin Jonas]

Okay. Okay. Because I was going to say we're playing Vegas that weekend.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, are you?

[Kevin Jonas]

Which is, like, kind of fun. Yeah. Like, turns that weekend to something a little.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

We're playing the Las Vegas show. Or come to New York during the holidays because we'll be back in the city.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, you don't have to twist Tay's arm on that one.

[Interviewer 1]

I'm trying to get Taylor to take.

[Podcast Host]

Me there for a little bit of time.

[Interviewer 1]

You know, we're young, we're married, no kids, so I'm like, why not go?

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. What are you doing? Get into New York, come hang out.

[Interviewer 1]

With the Jonas Brothers, Walk around, eat some pizza.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Do you want to tell me?

[Kevin Jonas]

You should definitely come to our Long island or ubs, like, final night of our tour show.

[Podcast Host]

That.

[Interviewer 2]

That would definitely be fun.

[Interviewer 1]

I want to explore east coast more because I'm like, born and raised California girl, and I've only, like, I've only.

[Podcast Host]

Started going to New York, like two.

[Interviewer 1]

Years ago was my first time ever.

[Kevin Jonas]

Going, oh, you're not ready. It's New York, New York. You need a Taylor. You've done it. Right. But, like, you need. You need like a good six week, I'm going to live in New York moment. You have to do it.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, Six week is totally fine for me.

[Interviewer 1]

That's what I want. That's all I want.

[Kevin Jonas]

Because then you realize quickly you're like, yeah, okay. You either absolutely love it or you're like, cool, I've had my fill. Get me back to my space. And like, so east coast for me has always been home. I get made fun of, even by the guys, constantly like, that. I'm in this movie that we're about to release. They literally, the one that still lives in New Jersey. It's like, yeah, that's me. I'm home. You know, New Jersey's home for me. East Coast. My wife is from there. And me and Danielle, after about a year of marriage, bouncing around on tour, I was like. I looked at her, I was like, okay, so it's either you don't have a support system and you're just with me, or we're going to move back to New Jersey. And so we've been there ever since.

[Interviewer 2]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, wow, that's great.

[Interviewer 1]

I want to go there.

[Podcast Host]

I've never been there either.

[Interviewer 2]

No.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, come on over. You'd love our house. Knock on your door. I have funny issues too.

[Interviewer 2]

Where are you at in the tour? Like length wise.

[Kevin Jonas]

So we should. It would have been that this is like our last week actually.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

But luckily, you know, the tour took a different, like a really interesting journey. So yes, we've. Last tour we did was two years ago. It feels like it was yesterday. But we went to Europe and stuff. So it feels like we've always been, you know. You know, but so we did the five albums one night tour which was like incredible and super great and tons of music, like 60 something songs every night. You know, it was just a lot. And then, then we did that and then we are on this one now and we just didn't really expect it to go the way it did, you know. We opened the tour at MetLife, we're supposed to go through November 14th and we had all these special guests come out, which was incredible people from our 20 years of, you know, music and the journey. Like, you know, we had Switchfoot, Dean Lewis who was on the new album, Jesse McCartney, who was one of the first people we ever opened for, which was.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh my gosh, you guys opened for Jesse?

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh yeah. No, that was. So we opened for Jesse and like he gave us like our first shot at like opening for him on his tour, which was a real big deal. It was a trade off so that he could go on tour with Backstreet when they came back in Europe when they did the incomplete project. Oh, wow. So like it was like our management trade off. Like we were just the recipients of it. So thank God. So we had Jesse come out and then of course we had Demi as well come out and yeah, it was just kind of blew up the Internet there for a couple, couple days and. Oh yeah, it's just been really beautiful. And then after that it just was like, hey, Joe was like, who else can we get? And then all of a sudden it's just become this thing where these amazing people have just been like revolving door on the tour and coming through and it's been so fun. Our bands had to work so hard to like learn all of these songs every day. Like, it's incredible and yeah, so do we. But like it's just friends and you know, then we had all Time low and. And we've just had everyone.

[Interviewer 2]

You've had a lot. You've had multiple friends of ours have come out with you guys.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, Christina Perry was incredible.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, yes.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, of course. Christina Perry was incredible. There's just so many.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, you guys are crushing it. We'll have to, we'll have to get out.

[Interviewer 1]

Come see us at some point one of these days.

[Podcast Host]

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[Interviewer 1]

Wait. So I don't know if this is like the Internet or if this is just actually happening because I never know what to believe or if like everything's just AI. Is there another Camp Rock happening?

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh yeah, we just wrap production on it.

[Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Kevin Jonas]

So no. So not only are we doing this tour, releasing the albums that we've done this year, we finished a Christmas movie in January which comes out on the 14th. Comes out this week. Got off the came from the premiere last two days ago. Okay, we're in it right now. And then we filmed Camp Rock while on tour. We had a week and a half section of the tour that we blocked off to go in. We're executive producing it, we're filming it and it's going to be really cool to pass the baton to a new generation. And obviously we're in it and a part of it, but these kids are so talented. I think it has a lot to do with like TikTok and like the way they can like dance and perform. They're like light years ahead of all of us. Younger generation guys that like started early that were like, oh, you're like, you're actually talented.

[Interviewer 2]

It's so funny how that happens. I felt the same way. I used to do martial arts and now, oh, I'm aware. And now seeing kids that, that were my age when I was doing it, they're like 10 times better than I was. And I was like a four time world champion. It's like, this isn't fair. Something's happening.

[Kevin Jonas]

I think, I think it's access to content. Right. I think like just even awareness to it. Like we, I see this with guitar. Like my daughter's like performing and they would like it and they're interested in it. I'm like, cool, we're gonna shut the laptop now. But like, but we seeing how these kids can play and the songs they're learning. Just if, if I had the tools from technology that they had. When I was 16, I. I learned to teach myself. I taught myself guitar at home because I had strep throat for a week and I was bored because there's no streaming television and Blues Clues was the only thing on Nick Jr, you know? Yes. And so like I had to. I just got unbelievably bored. I had a teach yourself guitar book that was just in the house and A random guitar. And that's how I started.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

So thank you. Strip throw up. But, you know, and then I. Then I faked being sick for the next week so I could stay home and keep learning.

[Interviewer 2]

I love that.

[Kevin Jonas]

But, like, that's what I had. I didn't have a one on one AI teacher on the computer that can, like, walk me through what I'm doing wrong and how to play it. But, like, it's just wild.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

Speaking of Camp Rock, can I tell you a hilarious story?

[Kevin Jonas]

You can tell me all the stories. Okay.

[Interviewer 2]

So 2007, I was in between doing, like, Sharkboy and Lava Girl and Cheaper by the Dozen. And I was kind of. I was in between those. It was before Twilight, and this was a point in my career where I almost quit acting because I was just having a rough patch. I just could not book anything. And it just. It felt. I was so lucky and blessed because it felt so easy at first. But then I had these, like, three dry years where I just. I couldn't get anything.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

But then this audition came around for this Disney Channel movie called Camp Rock.

[Kevin Jonas]

Please tell me you auditioned for Shane Gray.

[Interviewer 2]

I did not only auditioned. I went through probably five callbacks and made it to the final three guys.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh.

[Interviewer 2]

And did chemistry reads with everybody, including Demi.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's amazing.

[Interviewer 2]

And what's also hilarious about this is I could not sing at all or dance. And in the auditions, they made us. We had an acting portion, a singing portion, and a dancing portion. So that's probably ultimately. Well, well, no, it's not ultimately why I didn't get it. But anyways, point of the story, I felt really good about it, and I was so excited because I just knew that this was gonna be, like, the biggest thing. And it had been a sex since I worked, and I felt so good about it. And I remember getting a call from my agent saying, hey, Taylor, we got bad news for you. And I was like, oh, what's that? And they go, they're going with the Jonas Brothers. And I was like, what? They weren't even there. There are three people.

[Kevin Jonas]

Because how is this possible?

[Interviewer 2]

Because at this point, it was just one role. There was just one guy role. And they're like, I have a story.

[Kevin Jonas]

For you after this, by the way. Yes.

[Interviewer 2]

So I just want you to know that you three broke my heart. And I still hold it against you, but it was the right.

[Kevin Jonas]

Should we help you find therapy? Because maybe.

[Interviewer 2]

I forgive you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, you know what? I'm pretty sure if you would have gotten Camp Rock you would have not gotten Twilight. Fair enough. And if you did not gotten Twilight, you would not mentay. So here we are. Instead of saying you broke my heart, you can just say thank you.

[Interviewer 1]

Precisely.

[Kevin Jonas]

No, but here's the crazy part. So we as collective Jonas brothers at the time, things were like just starting to like kind of bubble. Right. Like the band was like just starting to become a little bit like well known. Not that, not, not like in any capacity in the. In the sense of what it became, but like it was just like. Well, they got this like song like year 3000, but like there's SOS which is like their music. So like it started to like do this thing. And people started coming to our little ass shows. Yeah. Which is great. We start working with Hollywood at this point. So it's good. Things are going well. Hollywood, part of Disney music group. And then Joe gets an audition request for this movie and he does it and they. We film it. Because we've never done this. Like that was not our thing. Yeah, right. Yeah, we had done some acting early days, whatever in New York. And that was actually how I got my start, blah, blah, blah. But it was never like we weren't the kids in LA doing the Self tapes and doing, you know. Yeah, we're no new. You can do a self tape. We filmed the Self tape in a dark, dark like hotel room on a flip vid. You remember those? And it was their exact response was what is this question mark? Like it was horrible. Like, absolutely. And it's us. Like I'm holding a lamp trying to show Joe in the light, like dancing who he cannot. He's a good dancer. I'll just say that so I'll get yelled at later. But. But then he gets the offer. He's like, we would like Joe to do the movie. And they come and they have a sit down. Like our management, my dad Phil, come sit down with us. And John and are like, so Joe got this movie but it means that we have to pretty much stop making, you know, touring for a little bit and doing some things. And pretty much we were like, no, we're not going to do this anymore. Yeah. And we were like, no, he's. And so Joe was like, no, I just won't do it. He was sad. I think he really wanted it too. But he's like, I know. For the greater good of the thing. Like, no.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And then my dad called Gary Marsh over at Disney Channel and was like, hey, what if it was a band? And they like figured it out and that we were the reason to send them to camp and the whole thing. So out of declaration there was. I'm sorry we broke your heart. But you know what? That makes me happy that you auditioned. I would like to see those audition tapes.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh, I would. I would pay a lot of money to see.

[Kevin Jonas]

I would. I wish we could find the one of Joe doing the audition. It would. Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's.

[Interviewer 1]

That is such a fun fact. We need to rewatch that movie. Especially now, since there's.

[Interviewer 2]

I was like, what my audition take.

[Interviewer 1]

No, no, no. Sorry. Camp Rock. We need to. Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

You know, it's got its moments. It's. You know, it def. You know, definitely one and two. I will say number three is gonna. Disney's. It's. People are gonna be very excited.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I'm. I'm already excited. I also feel like getting back on set.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh. Imagine, like, walking up to the Final Jam stage and, like, it looks like it. How it looked back then. Like, the camp. Like, it was crazy.

[Interviewer 2]

Like, almost 20 years later.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. It was like, whoa. And it was, like, kind of, like, overwhelming.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

You know, and so it was great.

[Interviewer 2]

That's really cool.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

Little.

[Interviewer 1]

Little child Me is very excited for this. I also feel like I can't say Camp Rock without literally thinking. Doing that with my leg. Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, of course.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. It's iconic. You know, it's got our moments. We grew up. We grew up. We grew up through it all.

[Interviewer 1]

You know, I love it. So, obviously you're on tour right now. We've been talking about that, and we honestly have a lot of musicians on the podcast, and we always talk about the effect of touring and, you know, all of the highs to the lows.

[Podcast Host]

And everything in between with it.

[Interviewer 1]

I'm curious, like, since you've been doing this for so long, do you remember what it was like for you in the beginning and kind of how it is for you if you feel like it's gotten any easier, in a sense.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. If it's more difficult in different ways. But it has gotten easier because we've learned a lot of how we could make our life better. And I will say this with. I'm gonna get a public service announcement. We are very lucky. We owe a lot to our fans, the success of the band, the continued success, being able to tour the way we tour and at the venues we do. And with 100 and something, 20 people on the road at any given time, you know, it's like a rolling city. Yeah. You know, that we, we. And they work. We work hard, but they work so hard to make sure that the show gets put on every night. Our crew and our band and, you know, they're there at 6am setting up. Like we talked about our good friend Cam. And so we, when we walk in the door that it feels like a little bit like home because it's hard being away. But I digress. The ability, when we were younger, we did not understand how to like, celebrate the wins. Like, it was always the next thing.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Right. Like, and that's part of the young, young hustle. Right. Like, we would fill our days with, like, we do the morning radio. I would have been say we were in Pittsburgh today, where I am today. We would have showed up at 5:30am, done the morning, you know, five different stops at morning radio, done two different random meet and greets in the middle of the day, finally got into the venue, done a soundcheck party, long meet and greet for more than probably 150 to 200 people. And then do the show, maybe do something after and then drive in the bus next city, do it all over again. Like, that was life right after Camp Rock. Wow. Now the grind is much, you know, much different. The time is, like, better used. But it's just, it's a lot more demanding on our sleep schedule and our time. And I find myself alone a lot because, you know, we have two beautiful young girls and they're, you know, 11 and nine and they're at that point where, like, missing schools, a bit of a challenge. And my wife, Danielle, who is the best in the world and strongest, like, she is making home feel safe for them when Dad's not there. As much as I want to be, you know, I want to be there always. But I mean, as much as I can be. But she's my teammate in this. And, you know, we, we know what this is, but she puts up with a lot, which is great.

[Interviewer 1]

Sweet.

[Interviewer 2]

I'm curious about, like, burnout, because I've always wondered this with there's burnout music. But how, like, ultimately, like, what do you do when you feel it creeping in? Because ultimately you don't really have a choice. Like, you're on the road, you gotta.

[Kevin Jonas]

Be at the job.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And we say this all the time. It's like, not everyone can breathe at 30,000ft, right?

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, thank God, kind of they can't, because then everybody be doing it, you know, and like, like, thank God, like, we are very, very blessed and very lucky. And I'm just, I think the burnout is real. Right. You have to prioritize your time at home. I, I, I push it. I have been on non days off, so only days off. Like I've missed two days at home on non days off on this entire run on this tour. Meaning if I have a day off, I'm not staying on the road. I'm not just like, well, I, I literally wake up in the morning or that night and I fly home and I spend the day at home.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And then I get on a plane and come right back to the tour. So like I've only missed two since beginning August.

[Interviewer 2]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

And that's just because we were like in Vancouver and it just like by the time I flew, it didn't even, I couldn't, I'd be on the ground for an hour, you know, it just like didn't make sense. But it's hard. I try to come home as much as I can. We have windows of time. Like, everybody spends time away from their family. Yeah. We all do. And it's just they used to call me ktnt because literally just me and Danielle, like our relationship was just on the phone. Like I just stayed on the phone. Like, we just would talk all the time now, thank God, you know, FaceTime is real and helps and I can just, just be in the kitchen with them as they're making dinner and hanging out. And I'm just in my dressing room, you know.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

But I think burnout, it's about who you surround yourself with. We have a really great little team that we travel with that makes us feel good and we try to fill the dime, work out, eat. Well. Eating is hard. Yeah. I'm being honest. Like eating right is hard. Yeah. Like, we have a really good team that helps us make sure we can do that. But like after show, food, you know, it's just like it's a whole thing how.

[Interviewer 1]

I'm sure there's, it's probably gotten a.

[Podcast Host]

Little easier now that your daughters are older.

[Interviewer 1]

They can kind, they can understand a little bit more like why you're not home. Because this is something, you know, we.

[Podcast Host]

Don'T have kids yet.

[Interviewer 1]

We want kids soon. And that's something that we talk about is like, what is that going to.

[Podcast Host]

Look like if, you know, Taylor's going.

[Interviewer 1]

Back to work and what if I'm doing something?

[Kevin Jonas]

How does that, what's the balance?

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah, how is that going to work?

[Kevin Jonas]

The balance is really, luckily I have Danielle, but that same thing is we're not on the page of we made an understanding with each other. Like, cool. We're not going to just homeschool the kids and just have them be on the road with me. And that's their life. And it's all about me, me. It's like, no. It's like, my 11 year old's got her friends and she wants to be in school. She is so incredible. She gets on the phone in the zoom with her, with her tutor, every time she has a thing without us asking. Studies on her own. Like, she's so, like, I'm gonna do great. I'm like, my God, who are you? But, but. But at the same time, I get it. And so I want to respect that because I think it can't just be about, oh, this. These are my needs. It's not really like, art collective. It's like, what does Danielle need? What does Elena need? What does Valentini need? They are older. They. I never thought they were gonna see the band. When the band broke up for that time that we were separated as a group, I really didn't know if we would ever make music again.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Tour again, like, ever. So there's like. And I. We. The band breaks up in, like, October, November. She was born in February. So, like, it was in the cusp of me. Like, Danielle's like, seven months pregnant. She's like, oh, my God, our life's like, up in the air now. Like, what does this even mean? Wow. You know, like, everything's in flux and then we're about to have a kid. Like, just all of it's wild, you know?

[Interviewer 2]

I can't imagine.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, it's just insane. So it was. It was a trying time for me to understand. I did. That's when I realized I had, like. I didn't know I could have depression. And I did, you know, because I didn't know my identity outside of this band. Because I was. That's who I was. That's. That's my crush. That's like, well, I'm Kevin Jones from the dress. It's like, yeah, well, that's who I am. That's my job. That's how people associate me. So it's like, once that's gone. Oh, God, I've been doing this since I was 15 years old. Who am I? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, and I'm like, oh, no. Like, what does this look like now? And it's like, I have interests. I want to do this, I want to do that. But not everything works like you said, Taylor. Like, it definitely sometimes can, like, not come not come to you as fast as you thought it would. And it's not as easy as you think it's going to be. But when we came back together in 2019 and the girls got to see us on stage for that first time in Miami on that tour, in the Happiness Begins tour, it was like I just couldn't. I couldn't deal. It was the greatest thing ever.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh my gosh.

[Kevin Jonas]

Now, now she's bringing all her friends from school to the big our show in New Jersey this weekend when she's got a box and she's like, dad, can I just get merch? And can I get like the ice cream cart that you guys can get in for us? And like, can we just like, like, can we just get you guys to sign all the vinyls so that when they show up it's like all done?

[Interviewer 2]

I love. She's curating the experience.

[Kevin Jonas]

She knows what she wants. And I'm like, you know what? Sure. Like, how am I supposed to say no number one. I'm like, this is awesome, by the way. If I. My dad was a rock star, I'd be like, yeah, I want that too. Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh my gosh.

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[Interviewer 1]

How.

[Podcast Host]

How are you?

[Interviewer 1]

Because this is another thing that we talk about. You mentioned one of your daughters learning to, you know, play guitar and doing that. Have they come to you like, do they want to perform? Do they want to act? How do you feel about that?

[Kevin Jonas]

They. We just finished this Christmas film. They are in the movie, which is really sweet. The whole family's in the movie at certain points. Points, yeah. We are playing heightened versions of ourselves. So the Jo, you know, people are like, is this a Jonas, like Disney Channel Jonas universe or is this like actual? I'm like, no, this is like weird. It's its own Thing they. My youngest. Like, an oldest, I think they are. Are. Not sure. 100. But my youngest is like, I want to be in movies. I want to be on tv, Dad. I want to act. I was like, like, okay. And she. And I just, like, we'll just take it slow. We'll just take it slow. But then you watch her on screen in this movie, and you're like, oh, my God, you're really funny. Like, I'm like, oh. And even the team from Disney at the premiere was like, you know, if. If your girls ever just want to come in. I was like, oh, no, here we go. Let it begin. You know, Like, I don't. And we. Me and Danielle have talked about it. Right. We're like, we will never push. I will support. I will balance that with. I will. I will under. Let them understand there's more rejection in this than there is in anything in your life.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And if you can't handle that, and if we can't work through the highs and lows together, then we shouldn't be doing this.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah, man, that's good advice for sure.

[Kevin Jonas]

But I also go, okay, if our parents. My parents didn't know. Didn't. They didn't know that going into it. They just knew we wanted this.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And if they would have stopped us because of the potential. My whole life is different. Yeah. So at the same time, I balance that with, okay, well, I have a better sense of the understanding of what it takes and what to look out for. But I also don't feel like it's my place to decide whether or not this is going to be who they are.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

So it's like, I will support you if this is something you really want to do. Let's go into acting lessons for a year. Let's see how that feels.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Do you keep. Do you want to keep going? Do you hate it? You know, so it's like, like, so let's do a little work and see how you feel.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

When people ask me if I would want my future child to get into acting, that's kind of what my answer has been. I. I say, yeah, deep down, I would prefer not. But. But what you could. Like, you're not gonna. Like, if that's their dream, you're not gonna be like, no, totally.

[Kevin Jonas]

But they also don't realize. No one does.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

What it's like to be on set if you've never done it.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

There's no school for that. It's like, hey, by the way, this is your chair. This is your room. You're not gonna go on set. You're not gonna talk during this time. You have to go to school. Oh, by the way, there's gonna be 150 people waiting for you. If you're late, you're making everyone late. It's like, like, this is a lot to put on a kid, right? Yeah. And so it's like no one teaches. Yes. Oh, this is how you act. It's like actually what they should be doing. When you get a job. This is how you should be acting on set. Yeah, that's really what they should be teaching.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah, that's true.

[Kevin Jonas]

Sorry, I have this whole thing about it. No, it's like no one, no one taught us. Right. It's like, cool. Be professional, kids. It's like, great. What do I do? Yeah.

[Interviewer 2]

What does that look like?

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And I'm sure it was the same for you in terms of. You were on screen super early.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Interviewer 1]

You mentioned therapy a little bit.

[Podcast Host]

We.

[Interviewer 1]

We talk about therapy a lot on this podcast. It's changed both of our lives drastically.

[Podcast Host]

But I'd love to kind of hear your.

[Interviewer 1]

Your experience. Experience with it and what you've learned. I know it's a very broad question, but.

[Kevin Jonas]

No, it's. It's fair. I actually sought out. Sought out a therapist after our last tour, to be honest. I came home from Europe and I just was not in a good spot. I think I had spent too much time away.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

I got stuck in everything I think came off of it all. And it just like, I think the serotonin drop was just maybe too much. And I was like. I just couldn't like, re. Acclimate. Yeah, it was really weird. Like I couldn't like, connect. I was having a really rough go. Like, I just felt like I couldn't find myself either. And. And it was. I found myself like being disconnected at home, but that's where I was missing when I was there. So it was like, really strange, you know, So I sought a therapist. And he's an incredible, incredible guy. Meet, you know, you know, disclosure. My wife and my. So we both work with him and he works with both of us, which is kind of great. We have the same thing because it like, helps me to like, process on my own. And then we work together. Yeah. He has a clear understanding from both sides.

[Interviewer 2]

Exactly.

[Kevin Jonas]

I. I don't know. Like, I'm. This is full single take. Sometimes I feel like therapy, if it's only one sided, is like. Well, aren't you only getting Half of the story. Aren't you only getting half of the experience? Yeah, and not in every case. And sometimes you just need someone to be able to, like, work through something with. But I don't know. That's, that's, that's for a professional.

[Interviewer 2]

Works for you guys. And it works for us.

[Kevin Jonas]

It works for us. And, you know, it was wonderful because I was like, hey, I just. How do I do this? Like, what, what steps am I doing wrong? And he gave me some really good advice. He's like, look, you're having a hard time because you feel like you're waiting for the next thing to come. Right? You're like, what's next? What's next? What's next? He's like, how about you just, like, take a whole week off of all your phones, electronics and just be, be hyper present. Be, like, overly present. Like, make it a job. Because it's not, you're Right now, you're not doing it naturally. So make it a job. And by the end of that week, I didn't think about anything else other than just being part of everything. And it was like, the greatest. Like, yes. I think I had to do, almost do like, a full, like, like reset. Like a hard reset.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And it really helped. And I missed. Then I was like, oh, thank God I missed this. You know, and, and it's, but it takes, you mentioned it earlier, the highs and lows of the touring. Yeah, that one. For some, it never really had it. There's always, you know, everyone gets sick after a tour. Like, we're all, like, in it, you know, we're good, we're good. And then the minute the tour ends, it's like, I, I, I have, like, the worst flu I've ever had. You know, like, your immune system's finally just, like, you can finally rest. Rest. Because your body just knows you're in fight. You're in fight or flight right now. Like, we're just going, you know, so that's my experience with, with, with therapy.

[Podcast Host]

I love that. Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Us having the same therapist has been so great because it really helped us. Yeah. Like, we don't. He knows how both of us are, but also, like, we don't. We're not both, like, having to explain the same. Like, he just knows so much about us. We're not each having to go explain something to.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

A different person.

[Kevin Jonas]

I, I, I find, and I'm not gonna speak for Danielle. Her experience is, you know, hers. But for myself, I, I find my ability to speak freely. More freely, because I Feel like he can connect dots that I don't have to connect for him.

[Interviewer 2]

Yes.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah, that's so true.

[Kevin Jonas]

It actually, like takes some of the, like. Well, maybe it's not like I'm like almost self analyzing. It takes that out of it.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah, yeah, totally could say you're working.

[Podcast Host]

Through some change.

[Kevin Jonas]

Changes.

[Interviewer 1]

Changing changes.

[Interviewer 2]

You're doing some changing.

[Interviewer 1]

That was my segue.

[Kevin Jonas]

Beautiful segue. I like it. You know what?

[Interviewer 1]

The grammar may have not been correct, but you.

[Interviewer 2]

We get the point.

[Interviewer 1]

We get the point.

[Interviewer 2]

Can I just say that when I. I probably had a full week of just you singing that song on my TikTok, because, I mean, it just watches what you enjoy and watch. And every time I came past those videos from the first night, dude, I just. It became my whole feed. Like, it was truly unbelievable and I'm just so happy for you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Thanks.

[Interviewer 2]

Was that like, do you get nervous at this stage of your career?

[Kevin Jonas]

Well, not like in the sense of.

[Interviewer 2]

The Jonas Brothers, but in that moment.

[Kevin Jonas]

That's my. That's. That's me like, you know, taking the dog for a walk, you know.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

But this moment, my God. I was an anxious. Oh. I spoke to my therapist four times that day.

[Podcast Host]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, my God, dude. Like, I was like pacing. Daniel's like, kevin, what is wrong? I'm like, I'm. I was up that morning, we all flew to Boston and she had all her girlfriends come, which was really fun. It was her sister's birthday, and so, like, she brought all her sister's friends and, like, it was great. And I'm like up at like 7am pacing in the room, and she's like, kevin, what is going on? I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine. I just went to the gym. I just like had to move my body, you know, But I was. I was really anxious because it's like, look, look, I wanted to perform it. Like, I really wanted to perform it. And I wanted to do it, like, opening night of the tour. And I'm actually so grateful I didn't. I was like, let me just get this almost. It was a little bit like, I just need to get it done. Yeah. Does that make sense?

[Interviewer 2]

Totally.

[Kevin Jonas]

And so I was just kind of like, I just. I need it over with. And it's like having a bad conversation. You just. Sometimes you just go rip the window. And so I wanted to do opening night, but it was like, I had a good conversation with the guys and it's like, okay, you know what? This, tonight specifically is about the last 20 years, you know, we're going to focus on that. And then as the tour progresses, we'll talk about new, which is the right thing to do. And so we picked Fenway, which is also another stadium. Cool. Good on me. Let's just make this most, like, in crazy moment ever.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

So I get up there and they. Joe announces it, which I think we're like, kind of like. People were a little, like, confused, you know, like, at first what's going on?

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

I've never done anything this. People that are listening that don't know. It's like, I don't sing lead in the songs. It's really Joe and Nick. I've always sang backgrounds, other things. There's been times where I've had moments, for sure, but, like, it's not been my biggest strong suit and thing for myself, you know, I do what I do. I do it well. It's just. I also. It's kind of like, hey, have you heard those two guys sing? Holy hell. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, he's Shane Gray, for crying out loud. Yeah. So, you know, it's. It's one of those things. And so it's not. They always encouraged me. It was never that. It was myself always kind of holding my back, myself back. Not knowing if I was ever feeling like it was right or if I could. Could do it. It just being honest, like, I didn't feel like it was. I was good enough, really. And partially because, one, it didn't feel like I had the vocal ability. And I think years of touring now and things and maturity in my voice, like, maybe have helped. And also, I think more. Just more time, confidence, whatever. Yeah. But then also Jason, Abigail, do you know. Do you guys know Jason?

[Interviewer 2]

I don't think so.

[Kevin Jonas]

Okay. Okay. Jason's incredible, an amazing songwriter, producer, credits that go forever. I wrote him in February, and I say, hey, man, do you have any songs that you might feel like could be something special for me? And he didn't. He doesn't respond, which is fine. Don't think twice. Twice about it. He writes me in June with the song and says, I think I found it.

[Interviewer 2]

That's.

[Kevin Jonas]

And that's how he fonts. And I was like, okay, I guess timing is everything, right?

[Interviewer 2]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

And he. I started playing the song, sent it to Phil, my manager. I was like, phil, this is. This is the one. This is it. This. Like, it felt evergreen, but it felt like it always was here. But it also felt like mine, even though it wasn't mine yet. You know what I Mean, yeah, it was one of those weird things.

[Interviewer 2]

But you knew immediately.

[Kevin Jonas]

So I flew to la. I knew immediately. I flew to la. I cut it, and it was the first time I've ever cut vocals. And I've cut vocals on a lot of other songs trying to, just to see if it was right. And nothing ever connected the way I really wanted it to. It. I just, I got the cut and I was like, okay, when can I put this out? And that was in June. Yeah. So it's, it's a long time coming. But I'm, I'm grateful you watched the videos. It was really special. The response has been beautiful. And.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And honestly, people ask, so why now? Why are you doing it? I'm like, honestly, because I found the song. Okay.

[Interviewer 2]

I mean, I, to be honest, I was gonna ask you that question. I was gonna say, is there anything, you know, in your life recently that made you decide now feels like the time.

[Kevin Jonas]

But I, I, I will quote Shea Mooney from Danisha. I played in the song early this year and I was like, hey, I just cut this. What do you think? And he goes, this song. He's like, I've always known this song. It was one of those weird things, though. He's like, it's just always been there.

[Interviewer 1]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

You know? And I'm like, that's exactly how I felt when I heard it. I was like, oh, this song is just. Has always existed, you know, it's one of those weird things.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

And he's like, it's exactly who you are without saying anything more than that. It's weird. Like, he was, like, kind of confused. He's like, so weird knowing you. And we're like longtime friends, so, like, we spent many golf trips together. Yeah. But like, he's like, this is really cool. Like, he's like, this is rare. Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

Wow.

[Interviewer 2]

Can I just go back to the Fenway moment one more time? Because, yeah, clearly we're obsessed with it. When you finish performing the song, do you know immediately? Yeah, I crushed that. And like, people are eating it.

[Kevin Jonas]

00. Not like, like, I am Blackout. I just watch the video. Well, watch the video.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, I've seen it, Kev.

[Kevin Jonas]

Half the time my eyes are closed. I'm just hyper focused on just getting through it.

[Interviewer 2]

Get through it.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. I couldn't even play the guitar in the very beginning of the song, which is what I do your thing. All else fails. If all else fails, I can do that.

[Interviewer 2]

Pluck away.

[Kevin Jonas]

I couldn't even strum the verse. It was just like, like, okay. I'm gonna pick it up in the chorus. Here we go.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, man.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kevin Jonas]

Do you think it was like. And then I saw the video of Danielle seeing it happen and that's when it like, I was like in tears after.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh my gosh. That's so sweet. Now, now having your first solo song is this. Are you wanting to do more solo stuff?

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, I. I've cut more music with the same team. Oh, yeah, I've cut more music. I'm working on more stuff. Things are progressing. Not sure what it will be or what it will. What I'll do with it, but get my TikTok ready. As of now, I am. I am creating more.

[Interviewer 2]

Oh, love that.

[Interviewer 1]

Well, we're very excited for you.

[Kevin Jonas]

Thank you. I'm very excited for you guys on your journey and I hope you come to New York for the holidays. Yeah.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

We're definitely going to take a peek at those dates because we'll figure something out.

[Kevin Jonas]

I. And you should see the show. It's really cool.

[Interviewer 1]

I would love a Joe Bro show.

[Kevin Jonas]

It's really like a special. This one's a real celebration of the last 20. We found a way, like, Joe is so good and Nicker is so talented. But like, we do this part of the show where Joe just read signs and we play whatever they want to hear because. Because of this five albums, one night tour and just our incredible band and because we've truly been doing this for this long, we can pretty much play anything that we. We have like the whole 180 song repertoire.

[Interviewer 2]

Wow.

[Kevin Jonas]

So like we can kind of do it all and we. He'll read signs in the room and people are like, oh, it's stage. No, it's. It's fully like, like whatever he reads and games and like pick a song thing. Like, we just play it and it's been. We've gotten stumped once so far on this run and it's. It has become my like favorite. It's become. I don't know how last night we went. It went for 30 minutes. I was like. We looked at Joe looks at the time. He goes, okay. Because, like. Because it just went for like, he just kept doing going and. But it was just. We were in the flow and I think people kind of enjoy seeing oh yeah. Us just like, hey, request a song. We play it. It's like we're the best piano band ever.

[Interviewer 2]

That's. That's so cool.

[Interviewer 1]

Oh my gosh.

[Kevin Jonas]

We did play a wedding this year and that was wild.

[Interviewer 2]

Did you really?

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah, we yeah, we played wedding. Okay.

[Interviewer 2]

Okay.

[Kevin Jonas]

The only thing that the bride wanted was the Jonas Brothers to be her wedding band.

[Interviewer 2]

And that she got.

[Kevin Jonas]

She got it.

[Interviewer 1]

I missed opportunity here. I'm really missed out.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. Right. Why.

[Interviewer 2]

Why didn't we get the Jobros to play our wedding?

[Kevin Jonas]

They had the jo.

[Interviewer 1]

I was at the wedding. That's so good. Okay.

[Kevin Jonas]

I. I didn't think we'd ever be doing it, so there you go.

[Interviewer 2]

Well, we are so thankful that you, you know, made time for us, and.

[Kevin Jonas]

I. I appreciate it. Like, I'm going to hold you to come into a Jonas Brothers show.

[Interviewer 2]

Please do. Come on.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yes.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Interviewer 1]

I'm going to hold you to these cookies.

[Kevin Jonas]

I'm not kidding.

[Interviewer 2]

So congrats on the song. It's really amazing.

[Kevin Jonas]

Oh, I appreciate it. It.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah.

[Kevin Jonas]

Thank you so much, man. I hope you guys enjoy the film. It really is fun. I think you'll like it.

[Interviewer 2]

Yeah, no, I'm sure we will.

[Podcast Host]

Very excited.

[Kevin Jonas]

Yeah. Thanks, guys.

[Interviewer 1]

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