The Bump Club: Becoming Moms Together

Summary

The Squeeze — June 17, 2026

Episode: The Bump Club: Becoming Moms Together

Host: Taylor Lautner
Guests: Natasha, Amy (first-time guest & producer)
Theme: Candid, supportive, and humorous look at first-time pregnancy, loss, and mental health among a group of close friends navigating their journeys to motherhood together.

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Episode Overview

This special “Bump Club” episode brings together three friends—Taylor, Natasha, and Amy—each pregnant with their first child, to discuss pregnancy’s realities: the emotional rollercoaster, physical surprises, body image, coping with loss, and the power of community. Their bond, forged in shared experience and honesty, anchors a lively, supportive, and deeply personal conversation offering reassurance and practical advice for new and expectant moms.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Discovering Pregnancy Together

• All three friends found out about their pregnancies within days of each other, sharing news in a close-knit, supportive group chat.
• The shared timing, while coincidental, created a unique bond and a space to process every milestone and symptom in real-time.
• Quote:
  • “Our whole group chat is just constant questions and complaining and things we’re all experiencing for literally the first time, which is so fun.” — Natasha [05:37]

2. First Trimester Truths: “Morning” Sickness and Mood

• Discussion of first trimester symptoms was brutally honest. All agreed that “morning sickness” is a total misnomer—nausea is often all day, worse at night, and sometimes relentless throughout pregnancy.

  • Quote:
    • “Morning sickness is like, we need to get rid of that...Who made that up? It’s 24/7...At night for me, that was when my acid and my bloating was the absolute worst.” — Taylor [07:01-08:17]

• Natasha shared that for her, sickness was accompanied by anxiety, depression, and intense aversions, requiring mindset shifts just to cope.

  • “My first trimester was probably the darkest moment of my whole life. I’m not even going to kid you.” — Natasha [09:28]

• Amy highlighted struggles with prenatals triggering vomiting and a confusing cycle between eating to quell nausea and rapid weight gain.

3. Mental Health: Anxiety, Loss, and Seeking Support

• Loss & Grief:

  • Amy shared her two miscarriages in vivid detail, emphasizing the emotional toll and lack of public conversation on loss.
  • “We felt like we needed support from our people. So we were having to be like, hey, we were pregnant, but now we’re not...that was so difficult.” — Amy [25:11]
  • The group acknowledged the anxieties of subsequent pregnancies after loss; Amy describes panic attacks before ultrasounds and used a home Doppler for reassurance.
  • “Every time I’d go to the doctor, I would cry before I would get an ultrasound, I cried during the ultrasound out of relief ... just the pressure that I felt going into these ultrasounds.” — Natasha [39:13-44:28]

• Early Pregnancy Anxiety:

  • All agreed the first trimester is suffused with anxiety, often exacerbated by internet “horror stories” and social media.
  • Advice:
    • Lean more on in-person support or doctor’s guidance than doomscrolling.
    • “If I could give any advice to somebody in their first trimester, just stay off your phone, and if something’s wrong, reach out to your doctor.” — Natasha [39:13]

4. Community, Friendship, and Opening Up

• The trio stressed how vital it is to connect with friends undergoing similar experiences. Group texts, inside jokes, and even synced-up complaints provide comfort.
• Taylor reflected, “I think we need to carry [healthy communication] into our other relationships as well...You can’t expect people to understand what you’re going through unless you verbalize that to them.” [73:25]
• Natasha revealed the importance of asking for help even if you’re hyper-independent:
  • “You can’t expect somebody to understand exactly what you’re going through unless you verbalize that to them.” — Natasha [71:11]

5. Trying for a Baby: Deciding When You’re Ready

• Both Natasha and Amy described not having strict timelines; pregnancies happened as much by “not preventing” as by planning.
• Vision boards, newlywed adventures, and candid partner communication featured as context—not everyone has, or needs, a fixed schedule or process.
• The unpredictability, as Natasha put it, can be a “shock, but obviously not a surprise. We know how this happens.” [16:46]

6. Body Image, Growth, and Societal Comments

• Rapid Changes:
  • All three experienced rapid early body changes, outgrowing clothes before showing a “real bump”—leading to awkwardness, insecurity, and comments from others.
  • “The first trimester, when you have literally no proof of your baby, but you’re not fitting any of your clothes, and you’re just fluffy.” — Natasha [57:54]
• Unsolicited Comments:
  • All have been subject to remarks about looking “glowing,” “chubby,” or “full in the face.” They urge friends and the public alike to avoid linking congratulatory remarks to weight or appearance.
  • “I’m not glowing, I’m just chubby.” — Amy [64:11]
  • “Whether that’s true or not, it just doesn’t need to be said.” — Natasha [63:35]
• Advice:
  • Reframe inner dialogue (Taylor recalls her husband saying, “You’re not a big pregnant woman, you’re pregnant. That’s all you are.” [66:52])
  • Every pregnancy and body is different; don’t expect your experience to match anyone else’s.

7. Biggest Lessons Learned

• Movement and Mood:
  • Natasha underscores the importance of gentle movement, even during the sickest days, for mental health and emotional well-being.
  • “I will continue to do that for all of my pregnancies...just getting outside for 15 minutes and walking has drastically changed my mood.” — Natasha [69:23]
• No Universal Pregnancy:
  • Amy highlights: “Literally everyone has such a different journey. It’s just wild.” [70:39]
• Permission for Mixed Emotions:
  • Taylor shares that it’s “100% perfectly normal and fine” to be grateful for pregnancy yet not enjoy being pregnant itself.
  • “A positive and a negative can be true. We need to just, as a society, accept that.” [74:38]

8. Practical Advice and Relatable Moments

• Don’t expect to love every moment of pregnancy, and don’t feel guilty about it.
• If you need support, ask for it clearly—from your partner, friends, or even online communities (in moderation).
• Cut down social media during vulnerable first trimester weeks.
• Your body, your journey. Let go of comparison and listen to your own needs.
• Don’t assume people know what support you need; spell it out if you can.

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Notable & Memorable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On first trimester darkness:

  • “My first trimester was probably the darkest moment of my whole life. I’m not even going to kid you.” — Natasha [09:28]

• On pregnancy body changes and comments:

  • “I’m not glowing, I’m just chubby.” — Amy [64:11]
  • “Whether that’s true or not, it just doesn’t need to be said.” — Natasha [63:35]

• On miscarriage support:

  • “We were having to be like, hey, we were pregnant, but now we’re not...that was, like, so difficult.” — Amy [25:11]

• On mixed emotions about pregnancy:

  • “It is a hundred percent perfectly normal and fine to be so grateful to be pregnant, but also not like being pregnant...a positive and a negative can be true.” — Taylor [74:04, 74:38]

• On first trimester anxiety:

  • "I would weep in the shower thinking of every single thing that could go wrong...If I could give any advice to somebody in their first trimester, just, like, stay off your phone, and if something's wrong, reach out to your doctor." — Natasha [39:13]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:25 – 06:15: Introductions; how the “bump club” formed; sharing pregnancy news
• 06:37 – 14:18: First trimester symptoms; nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and coping strategies
• 17:26 – 24:00: Amy’s pregnancy loss and fertility journey
• 33:56 – 41:49: Early pregnancy anxiety; navigating appointments, internet anxiety, and mental health
• 57:29 – 64:59: Body changes, rapid weight gain, and managing public comments
• 66:18 – 74:38: Lessons learned; empathy, movement, mixed emotions, and healthy self-talk

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Closing Thoughts

This deeply personal, often humorous, and refreshingly honest conversation covers the mental, physical, and emotional landscape of early motherhood—from loss and anxiety to acceptance and joy. The trio’s willingness to share the “unfiltered” sides of pregnancy and loss offers listeners validation, solidarity, and reassurance: whatever stage you’re in, you’re not alone.

Recommended for:
Anyone pregnant, trying to conceive, or supporting someone through the pregnancy journey—especially first-timers looking for honesty, comfort, and community.

Transcript

[Taylor]

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[Taylor]

This is a very special episode because this is our first of hopefully many bump club episodes. Woohoo. We have Natasha and Amy. We're all pregnant with our first babies. I was telling both of them separately that I was pregnant. They both then got to tell me that they were also pregnant. So it was the most fun experience ever.

[Natasha]

And the fact that we're first time moms doing it together is like the best thing because I feel like our whole group chat is just constant questions and complaining and things that we're all experiencing for literally the first time, which is so fun. My first trimester was like probably the darkest moment of my whole life. I'm not even going to kid you.

[Amy]

Morning sickness is like, we need to

[Taylor]

get rid of that.

[Natasha]

No, that is like, who made that up?

[Amy]

It's 24 7.

[Natasha]

I get nervous. I sweat a lot from my armpits. I remember I was sitting at the appointment was like one of my first ones. And I remember like laying back before my doctor came in and I was like dripping sweat on the paper and Bradley was like, you need to somehow dry that up because there's going to be puddles of sweat.

[Amy]

That's so funny.

[Natasha]

And I was like, like, I don't know how to help this. Like, I'm so nervous. The first trimester anxiety is not talked about enough. It's crazy.

[Taylor]

I had told a couple people over FaceTime. They're like, I could tell you're glowing. I'm like, bruh. I'm just. My face is more full.

[Amy]

I'm not glowing, I'm just chubby.

[Taylor]

Yeah, literally, I got some extra fluff on me. What's been the most unexpected thing about your pregnancy?

[Amy]

Like outgrowing my clothes so fast.

[Natasha]

Wait, can we talk about that? Because I have so much to say about this topic.

[Taylor]

Glow and drops. This is a very special episode because this is our first of hopefully many bump club episodes. We have Natasha and Amy with us. Natasha has been on the pod before, but this is Amy's first podcast appearance ever.

[Amy]

Woohoo.

[Taylor]

Which is great. Have you done a podcast?

[Amy]

No, I've never done a podcast.

[Taylor]

You're like, I've listened. I know it's my first fun fact. Amy does all of our behind the scenes everything for podcasts in lemons. So she's listened to every single. Literally every single.

[Amy]

All the unedited cuts.

[Natasha]

Yep.

[Taylor]

All the things. So this is going to be fun. We wanted to, obviously, you guys have been seeing us, like, post on social media, but we wanted to come do a little episode because we all get so many questions about pregnancy and whatnot. And it's so fun that we get to have each other to, like, talk to and have a group text and walk through this time with. But you guys have already kind of heard my initial pregnancy story, and I'm sure I'll get into more of it today. But Tasha and Amy, if you guys want to, like, share a little bit about, like, pregnancy stuff where you're at. Yeah, Amy, you go first.

[Amy]

Wait, no, I was going to say you go first.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

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You go first.

[Natasha]

I don't know.

[Amy]

I was literally going to say the same thing.

[Natasha]

No.

[Taylor]

I don't know what to say.

[Natasha]

No.

[Amy]

I don't know.

[Taylor]

Where should I start? I know.

[Amy]

I guess maybe I really say we're

[Taylor]

all pregnant with our first babies.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

We all have beautiful, loving husbands.

[Amy]

I know.

[Taylor]

We.

[Amy]

I mean, we're so blessed to literally do it so close together, too. Which all that was, like, complete coincidence, too.

[Natasha]

Like, we.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

That was not planned. That was not a planned thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah. If I haven't posted it already, I will post it by the time this episode.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Comes out. It was really cool because when I was telling both of them separately that I was pregnant, they both then got to tell me that they were also pregnant. So it was, like, the most fun experience ever.

[Amy]

I think we need to share those videos.

[Taylor]

I know.

[Amy]

They're so good. I still watch them, like, to this day.

[Taylor]

I go back and watch.

[Amy]

It makes me cry.

[Taylor]

The moment is so sweet. And you almost didn't tell me that you were pregnant, too.

[Natasha]

I know. Well, I didn't know if I should. I just, like, never know the vibes, you know? Like, I wanted everyone to have their moment.

[Taylor]

No, this would be my recommendation. Unless your friend is exposed explicitly said, don't tell me you're pregnant if I'm telling you I'm pregnant.

[Natasha]

Yeah, totally.

[Taylor]

But it's like, the most fun. But I.

[Natasha]

But two people in my life didn't do that.

[Taylor]

Yeah. To me, like, oh, that's so true.

[Amy]

Like, you told them you were pregnant.

[Natasha]

They were both pregnant at the time and didn't tell me. And then they told me on their own. So it's like, I think that is a common thought to be like, I'm just gonna let them do.

[Amy]

Yeah. Because you don't want to, like outshine

[Natasha]

their moment or just like it. I guess if someone is like planning on telling you, it's so fun. Like, you are the only person that I had that experience with of like. Oh, my gosh. Same. Yeah, but it is like, I don't want to take away from someone else's, like, thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

But it was so fun. Like, I'm so glad.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But I feel like when you have friends that are like pregnant with you, it's so much more fun.

[Taylor]

It's so much like it's been like the best.

[Natasha]

Well, and the fact that we're first time moms doing it together is like the best thing because I feel like our whole group chat is just constant questions and complaining and things that we're all experiencing for literally the first time, which is so fun.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And we're also close too. So it really is like, we're all like, did you do this at this appointment? When's this happening? Like, how is this? And we're all like, we are so close. So it's like.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Happening in real time.

[Amy]

No, for sure.

[Taylor]

Which is really fun. And also I feel like I always

[Amy]

ask you, like, whenever you have an appointment because you're like a little, A little bit before.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I'm like, wait, how is this appointment? Like, tell me, like, what, what are we about to like, do?

[Taylor]

No, it's so good.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

I love that. Okay. I mean, there's a lot of questions that you guys have sent in for pregnancy stuff, but I think let's kind of start with the first question. I was going to say Natasha is not going to like or it's going to have a good answer, but someone asked how to get to your first trimester. First trimester nausea.

[Natasha]

I mean, you guys got through it. I didn't. So I'm still in it.

[Taylor]

I don't know.

[Amy]

You're so fully in love.

[Natasha]

I couldn't tell you.

[Taylor]

I guess maybe do you want to share a little bit? Because I shared about my first trimester. Maybe that's the question for both of you to answer. I've shared. I've shared about my, like, first trimester symptoms and how I've kind of like gotten through that.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Do you want to share yours? I feel like you and I have

[Amy]

very similar, like, first trimester symptoms.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah. I mean, I definitely had morning sickness. Not to the extent of I feel like what Natasha experienced, but I had more. Well, I mean, I guess the nausea was, like, 24 7. Morning sickness is like, that. It.

[Taylor]

We need to get rid of that.

[Natasha]

No, that is like, who made that up?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

No, literally all the time. 24 7. And then it would honestly get worse at night.

[Natasha]

I. I totally agree. Yeah. Mine was always worse.

[Amy]

It was always at night. And, I mean, I was. I would throw up every single time I took my prenatal. So, like, that was always a trigger for me. So I never knew when to take my prenatal because I'm like, do I take it in the morning and then feel nauseous all day, or do I take it at night and then feel nauseous at night? So it's like, you can't win.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

But also, like, I feel like I would always get nauseous if I didn't eat something, so, like, I would have to eat to be able to feel good. So then I, like, gained weight, you know? So you really just can't win.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, there's no. There's no winning. But, yeah, that's. It's so true. I think that was probably the biggest misconception for me, was going into it, that it was going to be, like, morning sickness, and then I throw up, and then I feel fine.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But I really do think at night. Like, at night for me, that was when my acid and, like, my bloating was the absolute. I mean, even so that's the only time I ever really struggle with it.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Is at night, like, the bloating and everything. But. Yeah, they. Yeah, it just needs to be all day.

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Yeah. Sickness.

[Taylor]

But, yeah, you. You kind of had the same thing. Yeah. You were definitely throwing up from your.

[Amy]

Yeah. Prenatals, but definitely prenatals. I had to, like, switch my prenatals a few times because they were just, like, making me throw up every time. And I'm like, I need to get something in me.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

To, like, nourish the baby. That was, like, starting to give me anxiety that I was like, am I messing up my baby? Because I just keep throwing up the prenatal. Yeah. And then what else? Feel like I was just, like, exhausted my entire first trimester. Like, I was just sleeping constantly. Like, I would, like, like, every hour. I felt like I had to, like, lay down. I had never experienced something like that. But it does get better after. Like, I feel like the exhaustion got better after, like, 13 weeks for me. The nausea got better around, like, 15, 16 weeks. And then. Yeah. Now I'm kind of chilling. I feel like I'm like feeling a lot better now.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

In the second trimester. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Tasha.

[Amy]

I'm sorry, Natasha. I know as I'm saying that I'm like, I'm sorry.

[Natasha]

Yeah. I mean, I still. My. My first trimester was like, probably the darkest moment of my whole life. I'm not even gonna kid you around, but I. Yeah, I dealt with like the worst. Nausea, vomiting, food aversions. I couldn't smell. Like, being in my home was horrifying because, like, when I'm in an enclosed space, I just am smelling everything and I'm grossed out by everything. So I tried to spend a lot of time outside in like, the fresh air. That didn't.

[Taylor]

Yeah, you really did. Actually,

[Natasha]

literally anytime Bradley would cook, I would just go up to the rooftop because I'm like, I cannot smell whatever's going on in here. And even when we would go to restaurants, I would only sit outdoors. Like, any type of fresh air really helped me. I mean, it. It's not like it cured my nausea, but, like, it was better than smelling things.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

And yeah, the. The exhaustion was something I wasn't expecting. I, like, I love a nap like I always have, but I was taking like three four hour naps every single day. If I woke up at like 8am By 10am I had to take a nap. I was so tired.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

But I quickly learned that, yeah, my nausea is not going anywhere, which is a bummer. But also, I've just had to really reframe my mindset and not, I guess, let it, like, overtake my whole day. Because I think in the. In the first trimester, even with like, prenatals or eating, you're kind of just experimenting with everything. Or at least I was like, when should I take my prenatal? If I don't take it, do I still get nauseous?

[Taylor]

So.

[Natasha]

So for me, I found out that it doesn't matter what I do and I'm just going to throw up every day regardless. Like, no matter what medication I take or how many lollipops or like ginger, you know, chews if I'm taking my prenatals, if I'm not, if I'm eating, if I don't. Like, that's just how my body reacts. And it took me a while to get there because I kind of was waiting. Like, everyone had warned me and even my doctor, like, you know, you should feel. You know, he never said is a hundred percent, you're gonna feel better by this time. But he was like most women do, you can't, like, predict anything. And, yeah, I mean, for as far as I'm along in my pregnancy, like, I don't think it's going away probably until I give birth, which is fine, but I've just had to mentally re. Retrain my brain to be okay with it and then just learn how to, like, manage it. Honestly.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, it's been literally, like, crazy watching you. Also, like, the progression of, like, I could. I knew when you were, like, really mentally struggling with it, because even when you're not, like, when you're not feeling good and when you're in that first trimester, like, trench, it's literally like, is this, like, is it ever going to end? Like, you are so just day by day trying to get through, and there's literally, like, no end in sight. So it's been cool to watch you, like, get like, through that mindset to now. Like, we were with our husbands, were golfing this past weekend, and Natasha just at the end pulls her little barf

[Natasha]

bag out and starts walking to the car.

[Taylor]

And I look at her, I'm like, is it time? She goes, yep. Like, just, like, how you've, like, adjusted to it is.

[Natasha]

Yeah. I was really sad. And honestly, so I truly feel like I was very depressed my first trimester because of it. Because you are kind of waiting for this, like, period to be over. And I feel like it could be so easy for me to stop still. Not that I don't have those moments, you know, every so often where I'm crying about it because I'm like, I just can't believe I'm still dealing with this. But I. I feel like it's also just a choice to be like, okay, I have to readjust and figure out how to push through this and, like, not let it overtake my day. And I didn't want to be depressed throughout my whole pregnancy just because I'm physically feeling so bad, even though it doesn't feel great, but, like, I just think you have to figure out a way to push through it. You know what I mean?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

To be, like, mentally sane.

[Taylor]

Yeah. You've done a really good. You've done a really good job at

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

it, and you're more than halfway.

[Natasha]

I know we're getting there slowly but

[Taylor]

surely, we're getting there. We're getting there together.

[Amy]

I feel like there has to be a certain point where. Where you'll start or, like, start feeling better, you know?

[Natasha]

I know, but the thing is, because I, like, I'm. I'm A little bit too far. Where third trimester is coming quickly, and then I think it comes back anyways.

[Amy]

Oh, it does it really?

[Natasha]

Oh, yeah.

[Amy]

Oh, great.

[Natasha]

So I think.

[Amy]

I didn't know that.

[Natasha]

Yeah, I think, like, the last couple of weeks, especially with, like, acid reflux and heartburn and all that, so I'm like, once I hit that, then I. If. If it doesn't go away, then it will be my whole pregnancy, you know, I mean, I'm still fingers crossed it'll go away, but, like, I don't have. There's no signs of it.

[Amy]

Yeah, you're going to be, like, giving birth and throwing up.

[Natasha]

I know.

[Taylor]

Baby's going to come out and you're going to be like, oh, I know.

[Natasha]

I'm going to feel thriving.

[Amy]

You're going to feel so good. Yeah, yeah.

[Taylor]

No, that's true. And it's a good outlook, too, because I know there's, like, a lot of women out there that are so, like, they do struggle with nausea and turning up for literally their whole pregnancy, and there's nothing, you know, to do about it, and it's frustrating.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

But your outlook on it is great.

[Natasha]

Thanks.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

I applaud you for it.

[Taylor]

Okay, I want to start with some, like, earlier, like, questions before pregnancy. What someone asked, what made you say, we're ready for a baby? My husband and I are close, but I still don't know. Did you guys have any moment like that, or what were you, like, when you're like, okay, I'm ready. Like, what did that look like?

[Amy]

You want to go first?

[Natasha]

Yeah, I. I think, at least for Bradley and I, we've always wanted to be parents. So I think even before we got married, we were just really excited to do that eventually. And we didn't really have a timeline on it. And it was literally after we spent New Years together. And I feel like we were just all talking about, you know, what does this next year look like for us? And we were always talking about babies, I feel like. And. And then after that, it was just kind of like, okay, well, we're not gonna prevent anything, but, like, we'll just kind of see what happens. I was not expecting for it to happen a few days later. Like, that was a shock.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

But,

[Natasha]

yeah, we were just. That was something we always had conversations about, and we were never scared of it. Like, it's always been an exciting thing for the two of us. So that's Bradley and I.

[Taylor]

No, it's so sweet looking back on it. Cause we. I made all of my friends do little. What Are they called.

[Natasha]

I literally forgot, like, vision boards.

[Taylor]

Vision boards for the new year. I printed them out and had all of my friends do it. And Bradley literally put like, being a dad on there.

[Amy]

That's so cute.

[Taylor]

And we were like, Bradley, calm down. Like, no, we literally were like, dude,

[Amy]

like, were you pregnant at that point?

[Natasha]

No. So, okay, I had, I got pregnant literally three days after we got home from the trip.

[Amy]

Oh, okay.

[Natasha]

Got it. And then I found out, like, a few weeks after that. But I just. Yeah. On the, on the plane home, we were like, you know what? Let's just. Let's just see what happens. But no, I, I just. Everyone's fertility journey obviously, is so different, and I. I truly just had no expectations. So that was a shock. But, like, obviously not a surprise. Like, we know how this happened.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Right?

[Taylor]

Yeah, that's so true. What about you, Amy?

[Amy]

Yeah, no, I mean, I feel like ours, like, was kind of similar cuz, like, we had always known that we wanted kids, but we just like, were like, like, maybe in a couple years or like, at least like a year before we wanted to, like, start actively trying. And then like last year, we ended up just getting pregnant without even trying. Like, we were not expecting that. And then I, like, had a late period and so that's how I took a test and I found out that I was pregnant. And we were like, so excited. And I feel like that's how we, like, knew that we were ready.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Do you want to share a little bit about your fertility journey on this topic?

[Amy]

Should we start from the beginning?

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Okay. So, I mean, like, going from there. So I took the test and then it was positive, which we, I mean, like, we weren't doing anything to like, actively not get pregnant. So, like, it wasn't like the biggest surprise, but we weren't actively trying.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So it was positive and we ended up losing that baby around, like, 10 weeks pregnant. So I had gone to. Well, no, it was like eight weeks. So we went to our eight week appointment and then at that eight week appointment, she. The doctor was just like, you're either like, not as far along as you think you are, or you're like, losing the baby. So she was like, maybe you have your dates wrong. Let's wait two weeks and then you can come back and then we can, like, reevaluate.

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[Amy]

So the problem with that was that we were leaving for Europe in like two weeks. We were going on our honeymoon and. Sorry, I'll probably cry because I still get so emotional about it. Like, I'm literally six months pregnant and I like still get so emotional about it. But we were going actually like on our honeymoon. So like, our honeymoon was like a year late. Like we did it a year after our wedding, but my brother in law and his fiance at the time were getting married in Europe. And so we were like, let's just wait to do our honeymoon until their wedding so that we can just like combine the trips together. So like we told our doctor that and we were like, like, we're gonna be in Europe in two weeks. So like, I don't really know what to do. And so she, she was just like, I don't really know what to tell you. Like, you can either just wait to have your second appointment like after you get back from Europe, or you have to like postpone your trip. But she was like, there's a chance that you might miscarry on your trip. And so we were in a really tough situation because I mean, obviously like, we can like postpone our honeymoon. Like, that's not an issue. But I'm like, I'm not missing my brother in law and like my future sister in law's wed not missing that. So we were just like in a really tough situation where we didn't really know what to do. So we ended up taking the trip and we were just like, kind of like we took a gamble because we're like, I don't know if like I'm going to miscarry or not. So we ended up, we were in Portugal at the time and we were in an Airbnb and that's like where I miscarried that baby. Sorry, I will literally start crying. But yeah, so that ended up happening there and I bled for maybe like a month after that and our trip was like a month long. So I was just bleeding the whole time, which I didn't realize that like you bleed so much in a miscarriage. Like, that's like, you don't. I feel like nobody talks about miscarriages very much. So, like, you don't really understand, like, what to expect if that ever happens to you.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So I was literally on Reddit, like the entire trip, like looking up like other women's stories because I was like, what do I, like, what do I need to prepare myself for? And honestly, like, my husband was like, you need to get off Reddit. Like, you need to like, stop doing that. You're freaking yourself out. But I was like, no, it's actually helping me because I'm seeing like all these other women share Their stories. And I knew like, kind of what to expect. So, like, I knew that it was gonna hurt really bad. I knew I was gonna bleed a lot. And like, both of those things happened. So honestly, like, I felt prepared in that sense. But I mean, we were able to be there for, you know, my brother and my sister in law's weddings or wedding. And by that point I had. The bleeding had kind of like slowed down, but like, I was like happy to be there for like, for that.

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[Amy]

Then we came home and then that's. I feel like when the whole like grieving process, like really started because during the trip I was just distracted, you know, which honestly is kind of a blessing that we were like, not home.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because I wasn't as like inside of my head with it. And then by that point we were like, okay, we know that we're ready to have a kid.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because, like, we were just like so upset about like losing that baby.

[Natasha]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So then we started, like, I waited the like, month or two months that the doctor recommended, you know, until we start trying again. And then it took like five or six months to get pregnant after that. And that was like, really tough on me because that by that point I was ready to have a kid. I was like fully, like prepared. So it took a while. Got pregnant in like October or no, September of last year. And then like, obviously we were so happy, Very anxious, you know, like, as any, like, loss. Mom understands. And then we ended up losing that one as well, around 10 weeks also. So that was kind of the similar, like, timeline where we both. We lost both babies around 10 weeks. This time I didn't want to pass it naturally. I wanted to, like, know what happened with the baby. So I got a dnc, which is like a procedure where they just remove the baby from your body. And they were like, they were able to test it. And so we know, like, it had a. I think it's called a trisomy. Is it trisomy or trisomy? Trisomy. Yeah. So it was a trisomy too. So we knew that it wasn't something that like, was with my hormones or anything or like with. Yeah, like my vitamin levels. I mean, there's so many things that can, like, be wrong, like with your, with your body that causes the loss. So then after that, we worked with a fertility doctor and that. And they helped us feel more. More confident with getting pregnant again. Because I was just like, so terrified of getting pregnant again and then it happening a third time. I was just like, I cannot do this again. Like, there's just, like, no way, like, mentally and physically. I was like, there's just no way. And so we worked with a fertility doctor, and luckily we were able to get pregnant again on the first try with them. And then that's this baby. And now we're in the second trimester. So I feel a lot better. Obviously, the anxiety doesn't go away, but, yeah, it does feel like a lot better being this far along.

[Taylor]

Yeah, it's been so, like. Interesting is not the right word, but I've had, like, honestly, the way you've approached your miscarriages has, I feel, like, helped me with my, like, first trimester anxiety and things, because you're. And I've talked about this, and this is Amy, who I've talked about many times on this podcast, is, you know, your first pregnancy, you didn't tell me that you were pregnant, but then you had to tell me that you miscarried. And the second one, you had told me you were pregnant, and then you had to, like, deliver that news. So going into my pregnancy, I was like, I've gotten to walk through both with you, which I feel like is a very unique, I think is the correct word experience to get to walk through with someone. And it made me really, like, think about decisions that I wanted to be sure about. Like, telling, you know, like, telling you guys to, like, so early and telling my close friends early. Like, I was like, I want to do this because, yeah, I got to walk through that with you. And I was like, I. I don't want to have to, like, seeing how the news had to be delivered. Both times, I was like, I need that.

[Amy]

That was the. Yeah. Like, with the first one, we hadn't told anybody. We hadn't told our parents. We hadn't told siblings or friends. And that's, like, what made most of that or a lot of that grieving process hard is that we were just, like, having to tell people because, like, we needed, like, support from, you know, our people. So, like, we were having to be like, hey, like, we were pregnant, but now we're not, you know? And, like, that was, like, so difficult. So then that's why, for the second one, we told people, like, right away, like, at, like, four or five weeks, like, as soon as we got the positive test, we're like, okay, we're going to tell everybody, because if this happens again, we want the support, not knowing that it would happen again. And it did. But, yeah, I felt like for the second one, we definitely had more support because we had told people that everyone's different. Like, everyone has their own comfort level with wanting to tell.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like share a pregnancy. Like, I can kind of see on both sides, like why somebody would or wouldn't want to share.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, for sure.

[Amy]

Yeah.

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[Taylor]

There's a couple questions about early pregnancy anxiety, which obviously is something that you have had, but I know Tasha and I both have kind of like walked through that as well. And I honestly think it's inevitable to have because there is so many what ifs and there is also like the. Especially when you don't feel a symptom yet. I feel like it's scary because when you, like, are feeling symptoms, then I feel like you can like, you feel it. So you're like, okay, I am pregnant. But what, what has your guys's, like, experience been with the early pregnancy anxiety. And is there anything that you did to, like, help that I'll cry if

[Natasha]

I talk about it. So do you want me to go first?

[Amy]

No. I was so anxious for this pregnancy. Obviously, like, after two losses, there's just like, no way that you can't be anxious. And I think like you said, like, every pregnancy there's anxiety, like no matter what, if you've gone through loss or not. But I think if you've had a loss in particular, the anxiety, it's like, like I was having full blown, like, panic attacks, like, because I was just like, not convinced. Like, I, like, I felt like there was more of a chance that the, like, I would lose the pregnant pregnancy than it lasting, you know, like, my mindset was just like, not in a good place in the first trimester. Like, before every ultrasound, I would have a panic attack. Like, I would have physical symptoms. Like, where they would be like, you need to get your blood pressure down. Like, I would feel like I want to throw up. Like, I just, like, couldn't handle it. But I mean, things that helped. Reading. I read a lot.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

I probably read like 12 books in the first, like, couple months of the year. Wow. Going on lots of walks.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Talking to you guys, I think definitely helped, like in our Group chat. And then something that our friend Marissa gave me was a fetal heart Doppler. And that helped so much. And I know they're kind of controversial because, like, some people are like, don't use those. Like, Like, I've heard people be like, don't use that because it's going to make your anxiety worse. And I'm like, no, it literally makes it better.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You know, because I can, like, find her and, like, know that she's alive. Because that's the biggest thing is, like, I would go into an ultrasound absolutely terrified that our baby didn't have a heartbeat. And then, you know, they would find the heartbeat. I would be like, phew. Like, I can, like, calm down. And then I would walk out of the office, and then my anxiety, like, starts up again because I'm like. I mean, like, it could have stopped now, you know, like, 10 minutes after the ultrasound. Like, I don't know. So, like, the Doppler helped so much because I was just able to, like, check on her whenever I needed to.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And now, thankfully, like, I'm to the point where I can feel her moving, so I don't use it anymore. But, like, it was so helpful in the first, like, Like, I know you

[Taylor]

were using that, like, every day. Once I used it every day. Once you figured out how to do it, you were, like, locked in every day.

[Amy]

Every, every single day. Sometimes more than once a day.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

Yeah, yeah. Hey, guys. No, I'm, like, actually spiraling, listening to the story and then all my other thoughts. There's something I want to add. I mean, the I, I will say I think that's also a part of why my first trimester was so tough is, like, I didn't understand the anxiety that comes. I, I, I, I had no clue that this would happen to me because I never had, like, fears. I just felt like when you get pregnant, it's a super happy thing and you're excited, and I wasn't, I was not mentally prepared to all of a sudden have this overwhelming amount of anxiety every single day. Like, I was just. I would weep in the shower thinking of every single thing that could go wrong. And honestly, I think a lot of it came from the Internet and the. There's, like, so many pros and cons to it. Like, you going and saying, oh, I feel so validated because other people have experienced this. And that's, like, what I feel in our group chat and with our friendship and, like, talking with each other. And I still do if, if I have a situation. Symptom that I'm, you know, unsure about. Like, I love that I have a place on the Internet to go look those things up. But in the first trimester, when there was nothing wrong, it became my whole feed of every single thing that possibly could go wrong. And it was like, fear mongering me to the point where, like, I could not go on the Internet without someone telling me a horror story of this happening to their body or this happening to their baby. And it's all real and it's all valid. And that's, like, really not to take away from someone else's experience. But I think it instilled so much fear in me that I didn't enjoy being pregnant, or, like, I did not have happy feelings about it, really, until the second trimester, when I just was so faithful in prayer of, like, please just give me the peace, give me the calmness and remove this fear that doesn't need to be there. Like, all of. All of the. All of the worry, I think is valid, but I'm placing so much on myself for absolutely no reason. Like, there just wasn't a reason. And every time I'd go to the doctor was like, same thing. I would cry before I would get an ultrasound. I cried during the ultrasound out of relief because I was like, yeah, just the pressure that I felt going into these ultrasounds and, like, for some reason feeling almost, like, embarrassed or worried that they weren't going to find a heartbeat. And then, like, what do I do if they don't? And, like, I don't. It's just such a weird thing. So then when my doctor would tell me everything's great, everything's fine, I just would weep in the office because I'm, like, so overwhelmed with all this pressure I've put on myself. And so if I could give seriously any advice to somebody in their first trimester, just, like, stay off your phone if something's wrong. Reach out to your doctor. And then if you want to have a relatable experience where you're like, hey, I just need some support, that's different. But don't go on the Internet and just search up everything and scare yourself for no reason, because I feel like it's just. It's doing nobody any good, you know?

[Amy]

No, that's so valid because, like, even in this, like, this is my third pregnancy technically, but, like, I would have, like, cramping in my first trimester, and then I would go online and look that up, and they're like, oh, it could be, like, a miscarriage sign. And I'm like, great again. You know, but it's like, no, like your uterus is expanding and you're like growing like a little baby. Like, of course you're going to cramp, but it's like, don't look stuff up like on the Internet. Call your doctor.

[Natasha]

Literally, I would wake up and I would text you about this all the time. But, like, my first trimester, the prenatals that I was using just were not super compatible with my body and I was trying a bunch of different things, but they caused a lot of gas pains. But when I'm. I've never experienced pregnancy before and I'm feeling cramping and things moving around, I literally would like weep on the floor in the middle of the night thinking I'm miscarrying, because that's what WebMD is telling me is happening. You know what I mean?

[Amy]

Right.

[Natasha]

I'm. There was no nothing. And I'm so grateful that we all have such supportive partners that, yeah, are able to calm us down and, like, are there to pick up the pieces. But it's. When you're just in it, it's so tough in your mind spirals in like a thousand different ways. And every little thing that would happen was, okay, this, this is like the worst case scenario. So I really just had to, like, get off my phone. I think reading is great or just like finding hobbies in your first trimester to try to distract you from worrying about it. Because also, yeah, it's tough. You're not really seeing much of the baby in the first trimester, like, at all. It's like, you know, it's in there, but you also have, like, no proof of it.

[Taylor]

Yeah, of it.

[Amy]

Totally.

[Natasha]

So I don't know. It's tough. Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah. It's a lot easier now, now that we can feel the babies move.

[Taylor]

Yeah. No, that definitely helps. I think that is something that is so, like, unspoken is the anxiety going into the appointments. Like, I was anxious going into obviously my first one and then I just thought I would be fine. But it was probably like the three following appointments after that because I was going in basically. I don't know. But I was going like, basically every other week.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Like, I went at 6, 8, 10, 12. I don't know if that's normal because I feel like we have different.

[Amy]

Like, I ended up going every week this time.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Amy]

Because of, like, our history with loss.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So they were just like, monitoring.

[Taylor]

But I think it was probably like, it took me the third or fourth. Fourth appointment to finally realize What? Like I thought I was just getting car sick like because I wasn't feeling good. So I think I was just thinking that that's what it was.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But then by week 1214, I was starting to like, yeah, 1214, I was. The nausea of it all was kind of starting to go away for me or it wasn't as consistent. And then I was thinking that it was just the I was getting car sick. But then I was starting to actually feel the anxiety in my chest and I was like, babe, like I actually think I'm anxious right now. And like every time he'd be like,

[Amy]

oh, it's so valid.

[Taylor]

You're okay. We're going to walk in, you're going to see the baby, we're going to be like, you are going to be fine.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

You guys, I was so anxious. I will never forget. And I'm like already when I get nervous, I swear sweat a lot from my armpits. They have like the paper that you sit down.

[Amy]

Oh no.

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[Natasha]

And literally I remember I was sitting at the appointment was like one of my first ones. And I had a similar situation where for my first appointment when she had brought me in, she told me like my baby was measuring smaller. So it was either like the. My last period, which it was cuz we knew what day we conceived. So my period dates were just. And I don't have a regular period. But anyways all that to being said, she was like, you know, you need to come back next week because you could either lose the baby or the dates are wrong. So when I came in for the next appointment, I was so nervous and I was just praying like everything was okay. And I wore this sundress because I just wanted something quick for the exam. And I remember like laying back before my doctor came in and I was like dripping sweat on the paper and Bradley was like, you need to somehow dry that up because there's gonna puddles of sweat.

[Amy]

So funny.

[Natasha]

And I was like, I don't know how to help this. Like I'm so nervous. And luckily now my appointments I'm way more relaxed for. But like the first trimester anxiety is not talked about enough.

[Taylor]

It's crazy. Yeah, I talked about this when I did my like one solo, one that I think, I think a lot of the first trimester stuff kind of gets like swept under the rug because not even intentionally but like I, I literally forgot. And I haven't even like shared this, but I forgot I had a heart monitor on for two weeks. I literally like, I forgot about that. I've forgotten, like, so many things that I've, like, gone through this pregnancy and had to do.

[Amy]

Forgot this.

[Taylor]

I just. Because there's, like, this.

[Amy]

I feel like we're just blocking things out.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Truly.

[Amy]

We were just so anxious that.

[Taylor]

Well.

[Natasha]

And every week you have, like, a new something.

[Taylor]

Yeah, every week is different.

[Natasha]

Okay.

[Taylor]

This week, it's so. I feel like we just, like, move on. And then I'm like, oh, I forgot that. I, like, I literally forgot that that happened to me. Yeah, like, me too. I think that's why a lot of this first trimester stuff isn't talked about, and that's why I'm, like, on a mission to talk about it more, because I think, like, I could write a

[Natasha]

book on the first trimester.

[Taylor]

Like, literally, like, there's just so many things, and you're not expecting, like, anything to really change so much. Like, you're just kind of expecting, like, morning sickness and pregnancy to be this beautiful thing, which it is beautiful that you and your spouse made a baby.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

But there's. There's lots of other.

[Amy]

Yeah. People definitely need to talk a lot more about first trimester. Also, like, loss.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, if people talked about these things more, then we wouldn't be as shocked, like, when they happen.

[Natasha]

Right.

[Amy]

You know, like, even just first trimester anxiety. It's like. Never knew that was a thing until now, you know, or, like, loss. I didn't know anything about a miscarriage or loss or infertility until I actually went through it.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Yeah, it's wild.

[Taylor]

That's why we're here today to talk about it. A question. Do you. Did you have any symptoms before you had your positive pregnancy test that made you take one?

[Amy]

For my first pregnancy, I had just missed my period. Other than that, no.

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[Amy]

For my second one, I. No, I don't think so. Because I was, like, actively, like, taking tests. Like, I was taking tests, like, from, like, 9dpo, which is days. Yeah. Yeah. So not really. And then for this one, I was working with a fertility doctor, so. No, we've literally found out at, like, exactly three weeks or maybe even less. Like, we knew right away.

[Natasha]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Did you.

[Natasha]

No, because I found out literally, like, the earliest possible day you could find out. But I will say, my aura ring did tell me. Yeah.

[Taylor]

You had an interesting four.

[Natasha]

My ordering did tell me some, like, warning signs or what is it when it gets kind of cloudy.

[Taylor]

Yeah, like something. Yeah, yeah. I'm blanking.

[Natasha]

Something was going on.

[Taylor]

Don't ask the pregnant women to Your memory.

[Natasha]

I know something along those lines. So I was like, huh. And then the other thing was my PMS symptoms are usually very strong for like a week and a half before I get my period. And I didn't have any PMS symptoms. So I was like, huh, that's weird. It doesn't feel like my period is coming. And it was supposed to be coming somewhat soon. So then I was like, that's my

[Taylor]

only,

[Natasha]

like, red flag. But also, I know what day ovulated. I tested as soon as I possibly could. So I wasn't like, waiting for a symptom. Like I was actively testing when I knew it was this as soon as possible I could, you know.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I. Yeah, I guess I'm probably the only one. I guess I had symptoms, but then I didn't realize that I had symptoms because I wasn't trying or thinking about anything that I was pregnant. But yeah, yeah. So Taylor and I were not trying. We weren't doing anything to stop it. But we weren't like, okay, we're like, ready to make this decision. And a few months before, I got. A few months before I got diagnosed with pcos, I. I think I've talked about this before, but I was on birth control for basically like 10 years. And then I went off of it to like, a lower dose one. Beginning of last year, I had a pregnancy, like, scare. Thought I was pregnant, wasn't. And then it was like, beginning of last year when I was like, okay, if it happens, it happens. I ended up trying this, like, like

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[Taylor]

It was, it was.

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[Taylor]

It was horrible. But I was like bleeding like every other week. It was just like, it did not work well with my body. So I just went off of it. But I was then off birth control for.

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I mean, I think I was off

[Taylor]

of it for like eight months before I got pregnant, but that was the first time I'd been off of it in 10 years. So I got that diagnosis. And then my cycle before I got pregnant was 40 days long, which, like, is kind of crazy. Like, it took me, like, I didn't have a period for that long.

[Amy]

Yeah, it's long.

[Taylor]

And so I wasn't even technically late when I took a test, but I was supposed to have a microneedling appointment. And so I was like, let me just like, make sure that I'm not pregnant because I don't want to, like, have to do that. But then after then obviously finding out I was pregnant, I then was thinking back to like, what the week or weeks before, I basically was like, almost five weeks when I found out. Okay. I was like, around. I think it was around five when I found out.

[Natasha]

How far along were you?

[Amy]

I was probably like, three.

[Natasha]

I was three.

[Taylor]

Yeah. And then I realized that, like, the few days before I took the test, I. I thought I was getting sick because I was so tired. Like, normally, like, a thing for me before I get sick is I'm like, my body's exhausted. And I remember it was like 2pm on, like, a random day. I didn't really have anything going on, and my sleep was still fine. And I remember laying on the couch and I, like, knocked out. Like, I was sick, like, knocked out. And I woke up an hour later and Taylor was like, like, are you okay? And I was like, I think I

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[Taylor]

Like, I literally told him, yeah, I think I might be getting sick as I'm so tired.

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[Taylor]

pregnant and literally had no clue. So I guess that was like my biggest, like, yeah, for sure, little sign was the tiredness. But, yeah, I wasn't even, like, technically late. So I probably would have noticed it if I would have been.

[Amy]

I feel, like, exhaustion probably would have been my first sign because I was just so tired all the time.

[Taylor]

Yeah. So sleepy.

[Amy]

Yeah, sleepy girl. But like you said about the aura ring, that's actually how I knew that I was miscarrying or because, like, I had. I had a feeling because I wore my aura ring all the time.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

So I'm talking about my first pregnancy.

[Taylor]

Okay.

[Amy]

And so I kind of, like, I saw my numbers, like, going all wonky, but, like, I didn't immediately think that I was pregnant because of it because, like, we weren't trying and I didn't really know anything. I thought I was just getting sick or something. Then we found out we were pregnant, and then all my numbers kind of started stabilizing back to, like, normal. And so before that first appointment, then I was like, well, maybe something's wrong. So I went into that appointment already kind of thinking that, you know, that maybe I was losing it, but, like, I didn't know as much as I do now back then.

[Taylor]

Yeah, but.

[Amy]

But it's definitely a positive about wearing an aura ring because you can.

[Taylor]

Like, she had the knockers off.

[Natasha]

I took mine off because I had a similar experience, but nothing was wrong. So then I was like, like, other than it gave me the warning signs. And then probably a month into my pregnancy, I noticed that I had one number that had dropped And I was like, that doesn't look good. And if you, if you're, if your OURA ring's not on your finger, then it's like not going to accurately read. And that's what the Internet was telling me. Like, there's a chance, you know, you weren't sleeping with it, whatever. But it just freaked me out so bad and I cried the whole day. And then Bradley was like, you gotta just take this thing off. Because again, I think I was so deep in my first trimester anxiety that I'm like, if something happens, it's okay. That's life. But I don't wanna be freaking myself out for nothing.

[Taylor]

So, like, totally. I just took it off.

[Natasha]

But yeah, totally. I mean, it's.

[Amy]

Yeah. You have to listen to like your, your body and your mind for sure. Because everyone's so different. It's like some people wanna know.

[Natasha]

Yeah.

[Amy]

And some people don't. And that's total fine.

[Taylor]

Yeah. That's been the biggest thing I've learned is I'm like, I love hearing people's like, what people have gone through, but when people feel like they are like, can give you like, advice on like what you should or shouldn't do, like every pregnancy and every baby is different. Like, yeah.

[Amy]

You have to listen to yourself. Really gotta, like, you have to tune everybody out. Yeah. And just do what's best for you.

[Natasha]

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[Taylor]

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[Taylor]

What's been the most unexpected thing about your pregnancy? Just like the nausea.

[Natasha]

I like, not like I honestly expected it.

[Taylor]

Like I would this would happen to me.

[Amy]

I feel like probably like outgrowing my clothes so fast.

[Natasha]

Wait, can we talk about that? Because I have so much to say about this topic.

[Taylor]

Body was going to be my next,

[Natasha]

but that is something I also was not expecting. I remember telling two of my girlfriends and I was probably only eight weeks pregnant if that. And I was like I am not showing at all. But I don't fit in any of my clothes and I don't know how that was the possible literally. And I feel like now that we all have bumps and things are fitting different and it's cute. Like I have more confidence in how I look and how I'm able to dress with my bump. But the first trimester, when you have literally no proof of your baby but you're not fitting in any of your clothes and it's like you're just fluffy. Yes.

[Amy]

You just look bloated.

[Natasha]

Weird.

[Amy]

Yeah, like I just looked like I gained like 10 pounds and I'm like, no, I promise I'm pregnant.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

No, I did not or also if you're not. If you aren't trying to tell people or you're trying to conceal your pregnancy. And then it's like, what do I do? Because literally nothing fits me.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

And by four weeks, we would send each other, like, pictures of our belly by the end, and we looked like we were nine months pregnant. And, like, there was no bump, but it was just bloating. I was not expecting that at all.

[Amy]

The bump growth from, like, morning to night is insane.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, yeah, I definitely look nine months pregnant.

[Taylor]

I feel like we're all in a better place with it now because, yeah,

[Amy]

now I actually, like, kind of like the bump and I'll, like, be cute with it, you know, But. But yeah, when it was in that bloating phase, I was having meltdowns. I was like, full on crying in my closet.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I think that would be my biggest advice is, like, in a weird way, as you grow, it will get easier. I think I'm still kind of like, not. I still, I think probably struggle with it the most just because, like, my body really, truly has changed, like, so much. Like, I can't get any pair. Like, I can barely fit in Taylor's so jeans. So it's like, there's just like, a lot of things. Also, I. I was trying to, like, not know how much weight I'd gained. And at my 20 week appointment, my. I like, stepped on the scale. I didn't look at the scale. I'd like, secretly high five Taylor and then like, went and sat on the

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[Taylor]

weight has she gained so far? And I was like, she asked that.

[Amy]

Oh, my God.

[Taylor]

But like, yeah, no, I know. And in hindsight, I asked that in private.

[Amy]

I don't want to be not looking. I don't want to know.

[Natasha]

It's not my business.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, obviously if she, like, would know that I wasn't looking at the scale, she would not have said anything. But. But then I. I had gained 30 pounds already halfway. And she was like, maybe you should try walking. And like, just. I'm not going to end the sentence there because it keeps going in a good way. But she said that because she gained 60 pounds during her pregnancy and she was, like, miserable by the end.

[Amy]

So she was just like, it'll be easier on you.

[Taylor]

Yes. She was like, I try to, like, get exercise in which she is right. I need to. I have not moved my body, like, at all. And I need to just, like, walk. But that's been like.

[Amy]

I mean, it's so hard to not gain weight because.

[Taylor]

Well, I mean, like, have to.

[Amy]

Well, like. Well, like we said in the beginning, it's like in your first trimester, if you don't eat, you feel nauseous. I mean, not everybody, you know, but for, like, us, if we didn't eat, we got nauseous. So I was just eating carbs all the time.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Because protein also made me feel sick. Like chicken and beef.

[Natasha]

I would cry about my lack of protein intake because I'm like, yeah, I. But I can't stomach it.

[Amy]

Yeah. It's like I was literally only eating

[Natasha]

so hard for me.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

No, for sure.

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[Amy]

But it's like when you're eating carbs for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

[Taylor]

Yeah. Three midnight snacks I was having. Yeah.

[Amy]

I would literally wake up in the middle of the night and have a cracker.

[Taylor]

Yeah. I would eat, like, two protein bars a night because I was like, yeah.

[Amy]

No, it's so hard to not.

[Natasha]

I am curious. I feel like Tay and I, we've kind of talked about this, and I just have had this conversation with, like, so many of my other friends, but curious what your thoughts are on it. I feel like I was not expecting for my body to change as quickly as it did. And everyone's pregnancy is very different. Whether you have, like, the most massive appetite or you're barely eating, you still gain weight like you. You just do, and your body's changing. And I think there's also something just weird because it all feels out of your control and it feels very foreign, at least for me. The first few months, I was like, I actually don't even know, like, whose body I'm living in. It just feels very foreign to me. And now, obviously, I'm in a better place with it, but something that really affected my mental health. And I guess, like, hearing someone else's confirmation that they've also noticed the same things about my body really hurt me. And I know that it's not coming from a bad place, but I think a lot of times when you would be sharing the news of, oh, my gosh, I'm pregnant. I had so many people, not just for myself. This is from other girlfriends of mine who are also pregnant. The reaction being, oh, my gosh, I knew it. I saw that picture of you. Or, like, I've noticed you've gained weight or just making a comment about somebody's body and that being your connecting source to why you knew that they were pregnant is a discouraging feeling. And I Think if you're gonna tell somebody to, oh, my gosh, I knew it. Because I feel like when you and I told each other we were pregnant, we then said, oh, my gosh, I noticed, you know, when we were dinner, you weren't drinking, or you haven't been feeling well lately, or you've been canceling plans. Like, there's a way to go about it and etiquette that doesn't have to feel like, hey, you noticed I've put on ten pounds or whatever. Because you're already dealing with your own body images. And then to have confirmation that everyone else has also noticed, it is like, the worst feeling. And whether that's true or not, it just doesn't need to be said, you know?

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, there's definitely, like. And I just try to tell myself that. That people, like, don't know how to, like. I don't know, like, react like, you know, in like, a weird way when people, like, don't know how to, like, comfort you, like, if you're grieving, like, they don't know what to say. I feel like people maybe get just, like, awkward because I had multiple people tell me the same thing. Like, someone said, like, you know, my jeans are, like, a little more snug. Or like, someone said that. Yeah. Like, I would. Told a couple people over FaceTime.

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[Taylor]

Or people like, you're glowing. I'm like, bruh, I'm just. My face is more full.

[Amy]

I'm not glowing. I'm just chubby.

[Natasha]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Literally, I got some extra fluff on me.

[Amy]

That's so funny.

[Taylor]

Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, I'm.

[Amy]

I think it's like you said, I think people get awkward and they don't know what to say, so they say the first thing that comes to mind.

[Taylor]

Also, most of the time it's people that haven't, like, like, been pregnant or, like, concert. Like, for me, that was. I feel like that was kind of the people. Or they're like, so far removed from.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

Pregnancy. That was. That was my experience with it was that it was like, so either hasn't. Or like, you just don't think about it.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And also, I don't think a lot of, like, not every pregnant woman, you know, struggles with body image. And some people are just like, my mom, like, clothes that she would wear when she was pregnant with me. Like, I wear normally. Like, I have some of her old clothes still. So it's like. Yeah, it's. It's just like, people Walk through things.

[Amy]

No, it's so true. Differently, like, not to keep bringing up like, miscarriage, but like, it's even, like, it's even like with that, like, people say the most, like, out of pocket things, like when you're like, going through something like that. We both laugh.

[Taylor]

But that's.

[Amy]

No, I know. I like, keep bringing it up.

[Taylor]

No, you need to calm down.

[Amy]

No, but it's like people say the craziest things, but I'm like, I just have to remind myself that, like, it's people who haven't experienced it and they just don't know what to say and they're trying to, like, make you feel better.

[Natasha]

Yeah.

[Amy]

You know, and so they say the first thing that comes to their mind and it's like, well, that's not really. You shouldn't really say that.

[Natasha]

I also feel like it's hard because you don't want to be overly sensitive and like to the point where no one can say anything. And it's like, you have to be so tight lipped. Totally. But it's also, I think it's just, if anything, it's just given me more perspective about how to approach. Because I'm like, have I done that to somebody?

[Taylor]

Because I have. Yes.

[Natasha]

I didn't know.

[Taylor]

So, like, I'm sure I have.

[Natasha]

Maybe I have said that. Not like I. I know I'm not making a direct comment about somebody's weight, but maybe like, I'm saying, oh my gosh, I knew it. Instead of just meeting them with, congratulations. That's so exciting. Like, I don't know how that person's gonna take it. And I think now being on the receiving end, I'm like, huh? I'm just gonna change my outlook and try to be as supportive or mindful with my words as I can be.

[Taylor]

You know, I think something else that I've been learning too, which I think is just gonna take me a long time to like, continue to learn, is like, how I'm talking about myself as well, because I think that's still something that I'm struggling with. Like, I was. It's like talking to. I forget what I was telling Taylor. Oh, I think it was about, like laying out and tanning over the summer. And I was talking about, like being like a big pregnant woman laying out. He's like, you're not a big pregnant woman. You're pregnant. That's all you are.

[Amy]

Right. And I drop the big.

[Taylor]

Yeah, I'm like, drop the big, drop the fat. Like, drop these, drop these words that I'm Filling in because that's how I feel. But, like, I. I need to stop saying that in my head. And Taylor called me out on it a few days ago, and I was like, no, you're right.

[Natasha]

I probably calls me big mama every

[Taylor]

day, but I love it, and I think it's. And no. And I actually really do like it.

[Amy]

No, no, that's good. Cute.

[Taylor]

Okay. Biggest lesson you've learned through your pregnancy journey so far.

[Natasha]

Mine's not going to be very, like, sappy. Mine's just practical. Love life learned. I have always been the type of person that I love physical activity. I love movement. I love working out, and not just for, like, aesthetic reasons, but just the way that my body feels and for my mental health. And my first trimester, with how sick I was and then also how exhausted I was, I really didn't get much physical movement. And I think that also played a big role into why I was so sad every day. Just because I wasn't, like, releasing any endorphins, I wasn't getting much movement. I would try my best when I could to get, like, 20 minutes in on the treadmill or, like, lift some weights or go outside for a walk, but it really was hard for me. And in my second trimester, just having so much energy, I am in the gym every day, not trying to, like, build some crazy physique, but literally just to get movement in. And my mood has completely shifted. And I knew how much it affected me before pregnancy, and being in it now, I'm like, it's the exact same, like, just getting out and somehow moving. I will never take that for granted. And it doesn't have to be some crazy, strenuous workout. It doesn't need to be, like, lifting or even going to a Pilates class, but, like, just getting outside for 15 minutes and walking has just drastically changed my mood and my. My spirit. And so I feel like I, I. It's something I'm prioritizing because I love it, but I will just. I will continue to do that for the rest of my pregnancies and, like, really make that a priority, even when I'm just not feeling it or I'm like, obviously, you want to take care of your body and not overwork, but, like, just knowing how much happier I am when I can just somewhat move my body. I'm like, man, I will do this for every single pregnancy. Even on the days where I don't want to get up just because I've seen how it's affected me. And, like, that's been such a cool thing to see over the past few months, I would say.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Honestly, I'm proud of you for doing that, like, while you're so sick, too, because, like, that's really hard to.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

When you're feeling nauseous, to just, like, get out of bed and work out your body, like, that's. That takes a lot of strength.

[Natasha]

It also. It sucks. I'm such a competitive person, and Bradley's, like, building his dream body right now.

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[Natasha]

I'm a little couch potato, and I'm like, I can't. I can't do this. I'm gonna go with you.

[Taylor]

No. My favorite.

[Amy]

I need to be better.

[Natasha]

What?

[Taylor]

You had, like, sent me a photo or something, and you were literally, like, in flip flops. Just, like, slow. Like, oh, my gosh. On the treadmill, I was like, that's, like, so real, and it's so good, and it, like, made me. I was like, I can go, like, take a 10 minute, 15 minute walk outside when I was feeling, like, yeah.

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Just complete hell.

[Taylor]

But, yeah, I loved that.

[Natasha]

Oh, my gosh. My flip flop walks were, like, peak first trimester. Bailey's like, just come down for 10 minutes. I'm like, all right, this is the best. You're in my pajamas, too. Like, in our. Just at our.

[Amy]

Hey, you got it in.

[Natasha]

You know that's what I'm saying. I got it.

[Amy]

You got the movement in and it helped. Yeah. Yeah.

[Taylor]

Do you have a lesson?

[Amy]

I'm trying to think. I feel like the biggest lesson is just, like, how different everybody's pregnancy journey is. And, like, I didn't realize that. Like, I don't know. I feel like I just thought, like, pregnancy is pregnancy. Like, everyone kind of just like, goes through the same thing.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, everybody literally has such a different journey. It's just, like, wild. And then, like, kind of like what you said earlier, it's just like. Like, I've learned to have more empathy because of, like, being, you know, pregnant and, like, going through loss and all of that. It's just like. Like learning how to talk to people about pregnancy and learning to, you know, care for my body and be kind to myself.

[Taylor]

Yeah.

[Amy]

Like, that's all, like, things that I didn't know before.

[Taylor]

What were you gonna add?

[Natasha]

I was gonna say I have another lesson or another thing I've learned, and you talked about it in your solo episode, and I loved it so much. And it's something I feel like I really had to implement in my first trimester was telling the people in your life when you need support and when you need community or when you need help. Because I really have always been such a hyper independent person. I don't like asking for help. I don't like asking people to like show up for me. I'm just like, if you do it, great. If you don't. I'm self sufficient enough to go through life by myself or like with my husband or whatever. And in my first trimester, when I was in such a dark place for a lot of my friends that either hadn't been pregnant or have been pregnant, but they didn't have the same type of pregnancy experience that I had, they. It wasn't anything intentional, but I just like needed something that I wasn't getting. And it was up to me to go to them and just say like, hey, I really need X, Y and Z. I just need a friend. I need to talk about this. And I feel like you can't expect somebody to understand exactly what you're going through unless you verbalize that to them. And that was a hard thing for me to learn because I felt so needy texting a few of my friends and being like, hey, I really need something more, you know, Like, I just have never been that type of person. But I was like, I'm sitting at home almost hurting my own feelings because I feel like these people aren't showing up for me. But how would they know that they need to. How would they know? They've never experienced this. Or if they have, they had a wildly different take on pregnancy than me and I need to express that. And so it's. I've always been a very vocal person. Not with that though. And so I feel like regardless of if you're going through pregnancy or not, if you're experiencing grief or like, you know, there's marital issues or family things or body image issues, like expressing that to the people around you and calling on them for help is so crucial. And that has been like such a big learning lesson for me throughout this pregnancy.

[Taylor]

Yeah, no, it's, it's so good. And I feel like I'm still learning it. And I think that's something that I'm gonna take too, like into motherhood and into just honestly, like life. Like, I can't expect people, like, I feel like we talk about it the most, like in marriage, like, you can't expect your partner to like, read your mind. Like if there's, you know, they keep put leaving their dirty socks on the floor, you can't expect them to like, know that bothers you or like, pick it up if you're not voicing that. So I think we need to carry that into, like, our other relationships as well. I'd say my biggest lesson also, while

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[Taylor]

Like, I, like, literally, it kind of scared me. Like, my arm, like, moved.

[Amy]

No way.

[Taylor]

No, literally, they're getting really big. But I think my. I think my biggest lesson is that it is a hundred percent perfectly normal and fine to be so grateful to be pregnant, but also not, like, being pregnant for sure. And I've obviously, like, opened up about this on, like, social media. I feel like I've actually talked about it in a few podcasts now. But I really think that a positive and a negative, like, can be true. And we need to just. Just, like, as a society, accept that.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Taylor]

And just because I don't, like, you know, I'm not thoroughly enjoying being pregnant, like, and what it's doing to my body doesn't mean that I'm ungrateful for this little thing that's kicking me, like, during this. You know, Like, I think both can very much be true, and I think it's honest. And I think a lot of women

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feel like they can't voice that because

[Taylor]

they don't want to, like, sound ungrateful. But that's just, like, that's the reality. Some people, like, I have people who love being pregnant. They're glowing. They feel the best when they're pregnant. Like, they would be like a surrogate. They love being pregnant so much. And so I think it just really. Everyone is different. So it just is really what. It really is true what your body likes and.

[Natasha]

Or also not feeling guilty about that feeling, because that was something I felt so early on was like, why am I not as excited as I should be? Or, like, why am I not glowing in this joy and, like, this gift of life? But I'm struggling so much, and I felt really guilty, and then that would make me sad. And then you're like, in this cycle of I'm trying to be happy, but there's all these reasons of, like, why I feel like crap. And so.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Natasha]

Yeah. Even just, like, internally coming to.

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Yeah.

[Natasha]

Grips with that.

[Taylor]

I guess. I love that. Well, this will be the first of many bum club podcasts because I am about to click stop on the cameras, and then we're gonna keep recording. So there will be another episode coming soon, but I'll leave links to Amy Natasha's social so you can see all of our fun. Our fun pregnancy. Yeah. Content. We honestly, I am so proud of us. We filmed. We probably filmed like, 15 work day.

[Amy]

Like. No, we really did. I was exhausted after.

[Taylor]

We were so efficient. We really were, like, bouncing around.

[Amy]

I was proud of us.

[Taylor]

I love that. If you have any other questions about pregnancy or something that you're going through and you want our take on, leave a comment down below. Or you can always, like, DM one of us and we'll see it and answer it. But yep, we'll see you guys next time. PE Break now.

[Natasha]

Bye.

[Amy]

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