Goldberg PART TWO - SAS CLASSIC

Summary

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The Steve Austin Show – Goldberg PART TWO – SAS CLASSIC

Episode Date: January 22, 2026
Host: Steve Austin
Guest: Bill Goldberg

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Episode Overview

In this highly engaging second installment of Steve Austin’s illuminating sit-down with wrestling legend Bill Goldberg, the two icons reminisce about their respective journeys through wrestling, delve into their signature personas, discuss the business's competitive landscape, and branch out to talk memorabilia, movie roles, MMA, car culture, and more. Recorded at Goldberg's garage, the conversation retains the raw, unfiltered energy Steve’s listeners love, blending heartfelt storytelling, comedic asides, and deeper reflections on wrestling’s culture and legacy.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Wrestling in the WWF vs. WCW—“Square Peg in a Round Hole”

• Goldberg reflects on his difficult transition into WWE, describing it as never quite fitting in, compared to the more comfortable, team-oriented WCW locker room.
  • Quote: “It was a square peg and round hole. ...I always felt as though I was a football player at a frat party, right? That. To me, that's a pretty fair analogy.” (09:46)
• The perception of Goldberg as an outsider led to him having his own locker room—often misunderstood as arrogance but rooted in his desire to avoid unnecessary conflict.
  • Quote: “If a caged animal, if a Tyrannosaurus rex chooses to be in a room because he knows that the path of least resistance is much more favorable in everybody's outcome, then so be it.” (11:43)

Comparisons, Competition, and Respect

• Steve and Bill joke about routinely being mistaken for each other in airports during the Monday Night Wars era, illustrating the heated—but respectful—competition.
  • Goldberg: “At a casual glance, yeah, I could see the similarity. ...But, you know, I'll be perfectly honest with you, it made me want to rip someone's head off when they ate Goldberg. I mean, hey, Austin, I was like you.” (16:22)
  • Austin: “The competition between the companies was a shoot... That was competition. Absolutely. I enjoyed...” (15:28)

The Persona and “Entrance”—Origins and Impact

• Austin dissects what made Goldberg’s persona so magnetic. Goldberg describes himself as “the lion,” a moral enforcer in the ring, entirely rooted in reality, not an exaggerated character.
  • Goldberg: “In the days of old, when used to throw people to the lions. I was the lion...I wasn't there to impress you with my moves. I was there to say ...I'm here to fucking make sure that you don't ever do that again. That was me.” (19:57)
• The story behind “Who’s Next” is revealed as a chance remark from a waitress, highlighting how Goldberg’s catchphrase and entrance were spontaneous and organic.
  • Quote: “The waitress comes up. She looks and she goes, 'Who's next?' And that was it. I swear to God.” (36:48)

The Heel Turn That Wasn’t

• Goldberg recounts how briefly turning heel in WCW deeply conflicted him due to the effect it might have on children and Make-A-Wish kids he worked with.
  • Goldberg: “It did. Because ...the best wrestlers are the ones that make the turn from baby to heel and back ...to get people to invest in who you are. ...I knew it would crush these kids' hearts.” (23:39)
  • He reveals he quit the heel run almost immediately: “I told the guys, I said, I'm done after Baltimore. I'm going back. Dude, it ain't working, it ain't happening.” (25:37)

Learning from Legends—Hulk Hogan and Bobby Heenan

• Goldberg credits Hulk Hogan for teaching him “less is more” in wrestling and acknowledges him as a pioneer of the business:
  • “Less is more is the biggest thing that I learned from Hogan, period. End of story.” (27:37)
• He reflects warmly on Bobby Heenan’s influence both inside and outside the ring.
  • Quote: “He helped me tremendously. ...It was an honor, a privilege, and he was fucking hilarious.” (38:03)

Crossover to MMA and Combat Sports

• Steve and Bill analyze the unpredictability of MMA, including Michael Bisping’s upset over Luke Rockhold and parallels with upsets in wrestling.
  • Goldberg: “It's a chess match. ...so one time when you think you look at a guy's record and he has no shot whatsoever...it's completely dependent upon the style.” (30:12)
• They discuss Ronda Rousey’s future, combat-sports crossovers, and the business motivations that drive fighters’ choices.

Hollywood Stories—Behind the Scenes of “The Longest Yard”

• Both recount their experiences filming “The Longest Yard” alongside Adam Sandler and Burt Reynolds, sharing tales of on-set camaraderie and hard-partying nights.
  • Goldberg: “I'll tell you how stupefied they were. ...on the bar are two gentlemen ...passed out ...Kevin Nash and [Steve Austin].” (44:45)
• Sandler is praised for his kindness off-screen as well:
  • “So I called Adam, and not only did Adam get on the phone with [a sick kid], but Adam drove down there and saw him.” (47:47)

Car Culture, Stunt Driving, and the Goodwood Festival

• Steve and Bill geek out over Goldberg’s car collection and motorhead exploits. Goldberg shares his thrill about driving a Craftsman truck at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in Europe.
  • Goldberg: “I'm driving Mike Skinner's backup truck in the Goodwood Festival of Speed. ...It's the coolest thing that I've ever done in a car or vehicle.” (49:14)
• They talk performance driving schools, rental car shenanigans, and the evolution of their love for speed.

Chopper Stories and to Ride or Not to Ride

• Both discuss the realities—and perils—of custom chopper culture, including the pains of owning and rarely riding big custom bikes as priorities shift with age and family.
  • Goldberg: “With this rigid and the monstrous rear tire ...this is a spine buster. ...Let somebody else have fun with them. They're badass. ...But it's not enjoyable anymore.” (59:52)
• Both reflect how, for safety and family, their joy has shifted from two wheels to four.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Goldberg on his wrestling character (19:57):
  “I was the lion... I wasn't there to impress you with my moves. I was there to say …I'm here to fucking make sure that you don't ever do that again.”

• Goldberg on the heel turn and kids (23:39):
  “All the kids that I did so much stuff with, it meant so much to them, and they didn't get it. ...I knew it would crush these kids' hearts.”

• On “Who’s Next” origin (36:48):
  “The waitress comes up. She looks and she goes, 'Who's next?' And that was it. I swear to God.”

• Steve on the Monday Night Wars rivalry (15:28):
  “The competition between the companies was a shoot... That was competition. Absolutely. I enjoyed…”

• On “The Longest Yard” set (44:45):
  “We were walking through the lobby ...on the bar are two gentlemen ...passed out, and one was named Kevin Nash and the other was ...looked just like you [Steve].” – Goldberg

• Goldberg on Bobby Heenan (38:03):
  “He helped me tremendously. ...It was an honor, a privilege, and he was fucking hilarious.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• WWE vs. WCW locker room dynamics: 09:33 – 12:55
• Being mistaken for each other in public: 14:10 – 16:43
• Defining the Goldberg persona & entrance: 19:57 – 23:08
• Goldberg’s ill-fated heel turn: 23:31 – 26:41
• Relationship with Hulk Hogan: 27:37 – 29:08
• Discussion of MMA upsets (Bisping/Rockhold, Holly Holm): 30:12 – 32:15
• Origins of “Who’s Next” and entrance security: 35:05 – 37:18
• Filming “The Longest Yard” stories: 39:34 – 47:47
• Goldberg at Goodwood Festival of Speed: 49:02 – 50:22
• Chopper and motorcycle stories: 57:25 – 64:36

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Tone, Chemistry & Style

The episode is a freewheeling, often hilarious and sometimes heartfelt exchange, with Steve Austin’s straightforward, blue-collar charm matching Goldberg’s mix of humor and depth. There’s mutual respect but also plenty of ribbing, illuminating what made them megastars. The conversation jumps seamlessly from wrestling shop talk to life lessons, shared regrets, and the joys (and pains) of aging out of certain “badass” pursuits.

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a treasure trove for wrestling nostalgists and newcomers alike, offering authentic, behind-the-scenes insight into an era when wrestling was at its commercial and creative height, as told by two of its defining tough guys. It’s peppered with stories about adapting to change, the burden and privilege of stardom, and finding new passions while staying true to one’s roots.

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Transcript

[Steve Austin]

Alright, it's Thursday and that means this is Steve Austin Unleash Podcast, where anything and everything flies, including my favorite four letter words. You guys ought to know by now the first thing I do on podcast recording days is take a couple Alpha Brain and a few swigs of coffee. Then I fire up the Zoom H4N to lay down some audio whoop ass just for you. And today I got a little help in that department from my good friend Bill Goldberg. It's part two of our illustrious conversation that happened at the Goldberg compound a few weeks ago in San Diego, California. Anyway, as I said, I don't podcasts without Alpha Brain because I need to be sharp as a razor and laser focus behind the mic. And that's what Alpha Brain helps me do. So, another swig of coffee for Onnit, the fine folks who make Alpha Brain. And if you go to onnit.com steve to get some mouth brain for yourself, you can save 10% off your order. You can save 10% off anything you [e-mail] Steve. So yes, you can get 10% off Shroom Tech Sport. Shroom Tech Sport will give your workout a boost. It helps you go longer and recover faster. Yes, you can get 10% off T T increases strength and power. It will improve your athletic performance and it's safe to use if you're competing. So go take advantage of this 10% discount off your order. Just go to onnit.com Steve and another great thing about Onnit and all their products is if they don't work the way they're supposed to, you can get all your money back. No questions asked money back guarantee. So go to onnit.com Steve to get your 10% discount off all supplements. That's O N N I-t.com Steve to get 10% off. Your following program is a podcast one.com.

[Bill Goldberg]

Production he started in a small town in Texas, worked his ass off to become one of the most famous wrestlers of all time.

[Steve Austin]

We're gonna take care of business tonight. And that's the bottom line.

[Bill Goldberg]

And now he's dominating the world of On Demand Audio. And he's doing it for the working man.

[Steve Austin]

This is a damn good outlet for me to spew the off my brain.

[Bill Goldberg]

This is the Steve Austin Show. Unleash. Unleash.

[Steve Austin]

Un. All right everybody, welcome to Steve Austin show why I'm coming to you from the means Future Los Angeles, California. Today I'm sitting here in my office at 316 Gimmick Street. Getting ready to head down to Huntington Beach, California, about a 40, 50 mile drive and talk to legendary car designer Chip Foose. Man, this guy had one of my favorite shows on television called Overhauling. Used to be on the Learning Channel and it went to Velocity. And I think I've been watching reruns because when I was doing my research on Ship Foose, I found out that the last episode of overhauling aired on November 18, 2015. I'm one year behind the times. Hell, I thought the show was still in production. Hell, that's one of my favorite shows on tv. So I'm gonna ask Chip what happened to this show. When you think about it, if the show was running for about 11 years, give or take, that's a hell of a damn run. And man, they brought in some badass cars or some junk cars and turned them into some badass street machines. So anyway, I'm heading down there to talk to Chip Foose. And then tonight, after I get back from Huntington beach, guess who's coming by the crib? Yep. In Hodgkinson. Vampiro from Lucha Underground on El Rey Network. We're going to talk about everything. Lucha. We're going to talk about pro wrestling. We're just going to shoot the breeze. Because El Rey Network, Lucha Underground, has their Ultima Lucha 2 coming up. And it starts on July 6th and runs through July 20th, ending in an epic main event, pitching Prince Puma versus the one and only Rey Mysterio Jr. So after I talk with Chip Foose down there in Huntington Beach, I'm coming right back here to 316 Gimmick street to talk to the one and only Vampiro. Now, y' all remember last time I talked to Vampiro, it was a great conversation. I think we went about two parts. It was fun talking to him on the phone because we just hit it off naturally with great chemistry. So I'm looking for good things out of that. And hell, who knows what we're going to talk about. I'm just looking forward to talking to the cat and talking about Lucha Underground because I've been watching a lot of that show lately. I binge watched it to catch up, to see the storylines that Prince Puma was into. Some of the things that he was doing, of course, check him out as Ricochet, but I really enjoy that show. I like the way it's presented and they just pull you right into the storylines. You're willing to suspend your disbelief, or at least I am, and to buy into the storylines. And so they got a bunch of great cats over there. And it's been interesting to see the success of Marty the Moth, Son of Havoc and Ivelisse. I guess that's all from the tough enough 2011 class over there, but all over there kicking ass. Got good spots, especially Ivelisse, but they're all doing great. And it's funny watching the Son of Havoc promos because they dub in that voice behind him. And Marty, you know, he's doing the Donny Osmond, as Bill called him during the 2011 tough enough season. He's kind of got this off the wall character. But anyway, looking forward to talking to Van Bureau and that's going to happen tonight. But anyway, hey, quick checkup on me. Everything is going good. Shoulder rehab. God damn it. I just went to rehab yesterday Tuesday and I'm at 10 weeks out and they told me two more weeks of passive range of motion exercise that's going to put me at 12 fucking months. I'm about to go crazy. I'm training like a banshee with my left arm doing, you know, just bent over dumbbell rows, dumbbell bench press, incline, bench press, shoulder presses, lateral raises. I'm still not really working my legs yet. I need to, but that right side is still atrophied pretty bad. It is what it is. It was a hell of an operation that they went under. I remember rehabbing my left shoulder back in 2011 and, you know, I rehabbed that myself and it went at a much more rapid pace, but this was a much more extensive surgery. So to answer all the questions coming into the email, I'm doing good. I just rather get back to training with all the limbs in my body so I can kind of generate a little bit of a God dang stimulus, you know, when you're not doing heavy squats, when you're not doing those heavy deadlifts and not doing those heavy cleaning jerks, presses, stuff like that. It's just using that one arm, it's kind of hard to tax your nervous system. But hey, I'm doing the best I can. The shoulders coming along for what it is. Just using it to pick things up, right, and eat and brush my teeth and all that other bullshit. I'm doing just fine. So I appreciate all the emails that you guys have been sending in. And I'll tell you what, I'm looking for you guys here in part two of my conversation with Bill Goldberg.

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[Bill Goldberg]

Steve Austin unleashed. Unleashed.

[Steve Austin]

I'm sitting here at the Goldberg's garage. There's a sign in the corner that says that. Let's move over here. Bill, I want to talk to you about a few automobiles in your possession.

[Bill Goldberg]

My wife's possession.

[Steve Austin]

We're walking and talking right now. We're in. What would this be? The southern wing, the eastern wing?

[Bill Goldberg]

I don't know know, man. I've been hitting the head too many times to know what direction I'm pointing.

[Steve Austin]

So check it out.

[Bill Goldberg]

This is the, this is the upper level.

[Steve Austin]

Hey, before we start talking about these automobiles, I left the fans last week hanging on a cliffhanger. You said it just wasn't fun for you anymore and you were elements of it.

[Bill Goldberg]

What weren't fun for me anymore? See, every time I, I make a comment, I have to backtrack and understand that people are going to take certain elements of it the wrong way. So, you know, certain elements of it were negative. You know, the fans reaction, the ability to pick guys up and smash them in the face without getting put in jail. That was awesome. Other things, interacting with wonderful superstars and idols of mine such as yourself.

[Steve Austin]

He rolled his eyes.

[Bill Goldberg]

You.

[Steve Austin]

He rolled his eyes at a global icon.

[Bill Goldberg]

The good thing is that I do things to guys like you that, that most nobody would ever do. And that evokes a humorous reaction from you. Therefore, I've succeeded that that's my.

[Steve Austin]

At the end of the WWE run, you came in there, dude. It just didn't seem to me. It seemed like maybe the, the run was shutting down. Or was it a square peg in a round hole?

[Bill Goldberg]

It was a square peg and round hole. I don't think. I thought, you know, I'm not going to speak for anybody on their end, but I don't think from the beginning That e. US Gave it a fair shot. I mean, I don't know. I. Like I said, I mean, I had a predisposed idea of what I was going to encounter.

[Steve Austin]

What was that predisposed idea?

[Bill Goldberg]

Negativity, period. End of story. Whatever it may be, whether it be because of what I ask for, because of what I say, because of what I do, because of what I don't do. Everything, honestly, I'm not trying to be vague. Everything. I never thought as though. I always felt as though I was at a. I was a football player at a frat party, right? That. To me, that's a pretty fair analogy.

[Steve Austin]

What was the. The difference in the vibe? WCW to wwf? Was it WWF at the time?

[Bill Goldberg]

I mean, I remember I was in.

[Steve Austin]

You were the bad guy.

[Bill Goldberg]

I was in Europe doing my book signing, and you guys were having the fight with the W. The World Wildlife Federation.

[Steve Austin]

So anyway, you come in and it's like, what was the difference in the locker room? Because if you were the bad guy back in the day when you got the monster push, now you come in and there's job security on the line for top guys. Because here comes Goldberg. And so some. Some guys are gonna perceive you as a threat. You and I have been friends for a long time. I just say, hey, man, here comes Goldberg. I don't know what's gonna happen. Like I said earlier, I'm on the way out here pretty quick. Quick. So I was way cool with you coming in, but what did it feel like to you, just on a personal level, being in that different vibe?

[Bill Goldberg]

It was different, man. It just. It was. It was never like the football atmosphere, the football locker room where, you know, I. I don't know. I. I can't. I mean, there are a lot of things that I could.

[Steve Austin]

You weren't at home. You weren't. You weren't at home.

[Bill Goldberg]

No, man. Because that's why. That's why, you know, and because of maybe the position that I was at. That's why at times I had my own locker room. And that was looked upon in a negative way. But I always felt as though if you keep. And I'm not trying to be a badass, you know me, dude. Okay? I mean, honestly. But if you keep a. If a caged animal, if a Tyrannosaurus rex chooses to be in a room because he knows that the path of least resistance is much more favorable in everybody's outcome, then so be it. What's wrong with that? You know? And it wasn't because I couldn't coexist with people. It wasn't because of this. It wasn't because. It was just because, man, I. I came in, I did my job, and I felt as though that if I contributed in that respect, I didn't have to go interact with this guy and that guy, and I just. I was trying to be business, man, and if people looked at that in a negative way, then I'm sorry, man, but it was something that I always looked at, was always looked at in a negative way. But, I mean, I.

[Steve Austin]

Well, let me. Let me digress a little bit and backtrack.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'll never forget times. There were wonderful, wonderful times in the wrestling business. For me. The. One of the most wonderful was meeting you for the first time. I can't remember where it was, but I remember it was at the meal before the match. And I. You know, it was. It was. It was cool, man. It was cool. I'd heard so much about you and I'd seen so much about you, and obviously, we've always been compared against each other, but to shake your hand and look you in the eyes and hear you talk to me and call me kid, and. And it was an honor, man. It was cool. It was really neat. So, I mean, times like that, and. And obviously, I'd known taker for years prior to that, so, you know, times like, there were some really cool times in the business.

[Steve Austin]

We got to go back now because you got some old memories going, and, dude, this is just you and me shooting the breeze in your garage. You should have heard the conversation. We took a little beer break while ago. That's total kayfabe. We'll keep on. Yeah, but, dude, when you used to go through the airports and you would hear stone cold. Hey, stone cold Austin me when I was walking through the airport. Goldberg.

[Bill Goldberg]

What do you mean?

[Steve Austin]

What? Goldberg. There's Goldberg.

[Bill Goldberg]

I think it happened to me every time I go everywhere. But here's my question. I'm gonna. I'm gonna cut you off with a question for a question. What's your. What's your. What's your top comeback? In one sentence, what's your top come. Or in one word, what's your top comeback? What do you do? What? Don't say the feeling that you evoke that evokes you. What do you say?

[Steve Austin]

I didn't say. Come on, man. Because, I mean, if I did, it had to be you, but I just never registered if it did, I can't.

[Bill Goldberg]

Have to be you. Well, you know what mine was?

[Steve Austin]

What?

[Bill Goldberg]

I say, he's my sister.

[Steve Austin]

You. I just saying put my eyeglasses.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'm just saying, man.

[Steve Austin]

Hey, we're being real. I got two pairs. I got a pair of sunglasses, night glass on my table. I just put them on.

[Bill Goldberg]

Those are bifocals, man. Those are eyeglasses.

[Steve Austin]

Rotator cuff. No, dude. It used to make me madder than a hornet. Because here's the deal, dude. The competition, and we're friends and always respect.

[Bill Goldberg]

I always looked at it as an honor. But what I still tell people, I mean, because I'm so skinny now.

[Steve Austin]

But here's the thing. Well, I'm fat as. I gotta get back to my A gym. But here's the thing, dude, you. You were newer to the business, but it was straight up. The competition between the companies was a shoot.

[Bill Goldberg]

So for me to be mistaken by second, you guys used to do the same.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, but I mean, it just. It angered me because, I mean, no, that was. That was competition. Absolutely. I enjoyed. And here's the thing. You didn't get a chance to watch every single thing I did, nor did I get a chance to watch every single thing you did. Glimpses. Hey, dude. Black truck, black. We look alike. You're a little bit more jacked up than me, so I can understand why a wrestling fan who's flicking back and forth would get confused. But the competition was so heavy back in the day between the companies, that was a shoot you and me put up.

[Bill Goldberg]

And it was ironic that, you know, two of the very top guys looked, you know, quite similar. It hadn't, you know, look was completely. I mean, if you look closely, we were completely different. We still are. We always will be. We're completely two different characters. But at the. At a casual glance, yeah, I could see the similarity. But, you know, I'll be perfectly honest with you, it made me want to rip someone's head off when they ate Goldberg. I mean, hey, Austin, I was like you. You, you know, because, you know, only because I'm. I was like 300 man. And I had traps and I was like, ah. All the time. And I'm like, what am I shrinking? So basically, that was the only thing. But other than that, other than physique.

[Steve Austin]

Wise, you're just on me in your garage.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'm not on you. I'm just saying the reality is. And this is how look, I look at everything. What was the heaviest you were when you looked the best?

[Steve Austin]

Oh, 255.

[Bill Goldberg]

Thank you. Yeah, that's reality. I was £300. So that's the only thing other than that was 1% of it. Other than that, the fact that anybody would think that I was somebody who was one of the most successful guys who ever laced up the boots. It was a huge honor, but I couldn't acknowledge it and go, oh, God, thank you. I'm Goldberg. I eat Stone Cold. I can't go, you know, yeah, man. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. But I'm Goldberg, and you know, I'm emasculated again.

[Steve Austin]

Goldberg has about, I don't know, 20 cars. There's enough for a 20 by 20 squared circle. We're about to have a goddamn match. I'm gonna get some railroad ties. We're gonna make a ring. This is gonna happen right here. Going to be a shoot. I'm kidding. What we are going to do, though, is take a minute so I can thank all the fine sponsors of this podcast. So shout out to Dollar Shave Club and of course, shout out to y' all for supporting my great sponsors. And to show my appreciation, I've worked out a special deal with our friends at Dollar Shave Club and arranged for them to give new members a month of the executive razor for free just for buying a tube of Dr. Carver Shea Butter. So there's no excuse not to join the millions of others who've joined the club. DollarShaveClub.com Steve delivers amazing razors right to your front door for about a third of the price of what those greedy razor corporations charge. That means when you become a member of DollarShaveClub.com Steve, you can afford to shave with a fresh blade anytime you want. We all know how great it feels to shave with a fresh blade. I've got the executive blade, and when you pair it with Dr. Carver Shave Butter, it's about the smoothest shave money can buy, and that's without breaking your wallet. And Dr. Carver shave butter ain't your average shave cream. It's a unique formula made with natural ingredients that will leave your skin feeling soft and smooth. So join dollarshaveclub.com Steve now and new members who buy a tube of Dr. Carver Shave Butter get a month of the executive razor for free. Take advantage of the special offer today. Go to dollarshaveclub.com Steve that's dollarshaveclub.com Steve. When people mention the name Stone Cold Steve Austin, or when people would see Stone Cold Steve Austin, or if you say the Rock or if you say the Undertaker, you know who and what they are from a gimmick perspective or their Persona that they played in the ring. Stone Cold is me turned up all the way to 12. And so it was, hey, fuck you, beer drinking guy. He's pissed off at the system. He's going to raise hell. If you fuck with him, he's going to kick your ass. You knew what's going middle fingers. So that was kind of the long story, short definition of my character. There was much more depth to it than that. But just on the surface, that's what you think. You always see a hell raising, badass, redneck kind of guy that's gonna beat your ass if you piss him off. When you say Goldberg, I mean because, dude, you were so over. And I want to get to your entrance in a minute. But how would you define the Goldberg Persona slash gimmick? Because I was a hellraiser. You would be the what we're talking shop.

[Bill Goldberg]

In the days of old, when used to throw people to the lions. I was the lion. In the days when, from the inception of professional wrestling, when the word gimmick has always been looked upon as a definition of a wrestler or a character. There has been from time to time, I'm so eloquent at times. There's been from time to time people that are far from reality in that they are quite ridiculous. I was the fucking opposite of that in that I wasn't there to impress you with my moves. I was there to say I saw you walk into that restaurant and there was a 75 year old woman that walked behind you and you didn't think enough to turn behind you and, and open the door for her. And she couldn't see and she didn't understand that the door wasn't open and she ran into it, fell down and broke her ankle. And now she's on her way to the hospital. I'm here to fucking make sure that you don't ever do that again. That was me. But after I show you that, teach you that lesson, I can step out of the ring, take a deep breath and grab someone's baby and take a wonderful picture with them and have them not think that I'm gonna eat them. You know, I was, I was the. I could be the. I was the person who could be the most unforgiving. I was, I was Brody in a completely different. I was Brody and what's his name from wcw?

[Steve Austin]

Nikita Koloff.

[Bill Goldberg]

I was, I was, I was Hawk. I was Nikita, but I was, I was a football player and I was. I don't know. Those are the, those are the two that I could compare myself to more than anyone though it Be the look and the way that they performed in the ring with their mentality, as far as attacking an opponent. But I had remorse, and no, I didn't have remorse. If you, if you, if you cross me, then I was going to eat you. If you were an ally in any way, shape or form, I would put my life on the line for you. I was the eternal good guy. You know, if anybody needed help, I was there to help them.

[Steve Austin]

Question. You never turned heel, did you?

[Bill Goldberg]

I did, man. I mean, that's a whole nother podcast. But I did. But that's a whole nother story.

[Steve Austin]

Didn't work for you, did it?

[Bill Goldberg]

I did. I always told you, I always told everybody, and I told you earlier that I'm a performer. I'm a. I'm not an entertainer, okay? I'm not a booker. I don't know what's right. I know that if you give me something, I can make it badass. I can't write the whole story because I don't. That it's not that I'm creative enough. It's. It's that I probably am not. I'm not.

[Steve Austin]

No, let me. I think I can interject here. I mean, like, you're friends with Kevin Nash, as am I. Kevin Ash. He's a big picture, and he can book completely different. Me, I'm salt pepper guy. If you give me an idea, I can make it better by putting salt and pepper spices. So I'm not a big picture guy, but if you give me a situation, I can go with it and then make it better.

[Bill Goldberg]

Exactly. And I can make it as.

[Steve Austin]

So what happened with the Hill run? Well.

[Bill Goldberg]

The kids, man. The kids. It was.

[Steve Austin]

Hurt you on a shoot level.

[Bill Goldberg]

It did. It did. Because it's a. It's a. It's a work. It's. It's a work. But watch me on Povich. Watch me on Povich with Elijah. You know, I can't remember his exact name, but, man, it was like 20 years ago, bro. And all the kids that I did so much stuff with, it meant so much to them, and they didn't get it. They didn't get that. You know, the best wrestlers are the ones that make the turn from baby to heel and back and can fool people and can take them along with that ride and sell merchandise the entire way and be successful the entire way and be able to make that transition and carry people because they care about who you are. Whether that, you know, because to, to get people a successful, whether it be wrestling match or. Or fight, is to get people to invest in who you are. Whether they want you to win or lose, they don't give a shit. Then who give you. You lost, right? Period. End of story. Floyd Mayweather, I can't stand him, but man, he draws more money than rain. There you go. So Conor McGregor, you know, I have the same thought process on that one, but the heel run, you know, I didn't want to do it to begin with because of the kid thing. I did so much with Make a Wish, I did, I did a lot of stuff, man, to where I knew it would crush these kids hearts. Ironically, the night that I turned heel, I had a make a Wish girl that had cancer. Okay, so what's the night that I turn heel? What did I do? Do you remember?

[Steve Austin]

No.

[Bill Goldberg]

I wrestled Hacksaw. What did Hacksaw come back from? Thank you very much. So what effect do you think I had on that little girl when I came into that locker room? Whether it was a shoot or whether.

[Steve Austin]

It was a work or whether I.

[Bill Goldberg]

Was getting paid millions of dollars, I still got a heart, you know, a big heart. And everybody who can't see beyond, you know, the things that they read, because I. I really don't care about those people, but I really am a very caring person. And that tore me apart. So I remember we were Baltimore the next night, and I told the guys, I said, I'm done after Baltimore. I'm going back. Dude, it ain't working, it ain't happening. I know it would be badass. I would have been one of the fucking most ruthless some bitch fucking heels ever on the planet. I would have been you at £300, you know, and I swear that it like Brock and his decision to go back to the ufc, it'll haunt me, you know, from now until the day I die, that I didn't fucking turn heel and give the fans the ability to see that part of me. Because, man, there's that wild animal in me that wants to just completely break loose and be lawless.

[Steve Austin]

But the personal side of who you.

[Bill Goldberg]

Are, I couldn't do it and go there. I couldn't do it, man. I couldn't.

[Steve Austin]

How much control did you have in that decision? Was Eric running the show at the time?

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah, but I had, I. I obviously had come. I mean, I don't remember. And I'm not looking back and saying, yeah, man, I was a man and I obviously had all the control. Well, I obviously had control enough to say no, because I went back immediately.

[Steve Austin]

To being and man, speaking of control, I was Trying to talk about cars, but we keep talking about wrestling. And I want to talk about your entrance, but when you talk about control, it jars my mind of Hulk Hogan, who always had creative control. One of the smartest guys in the business. People always knock me that I don't give the guy enough credit. I got a ton of respect for Hulk Hogan's career in the ring. So sadly, that just seems to be what's true. There's no heat between myself and Hogan. I'm asking you, what was your relationship with Hulk Hogan when you were down there in wcw? All of a sudden, you shoot through the goddamn roof hotter than a firecracker. Y' all do some business. What's the relationship? What's the dynamic?

[Bill Goldberg]

Well, he's Hulk Hogan. He's gonna do his thing, right? I'm the guy coming in. I'm his. I'm a. I'm a worthy nemesis that's gonna make everybody a lot of money, which, fortunately, ultimately makes the company and everyone else who falls under that umbrella a lot of money. But, you know, I mean, hey, Hogan helped me out a lot because through osmosis and that. It was not what he told me, it's what he did. And I watched. Less is more is the biggest thing that I learned from Hogan, period. End of story. Less is more. Throw out every bit of the rest. My relationship with him was. Was superficial in that I was the guy and I was money in that, you know? But I. I like Hogan, man. I mean, he'd done.

[Steve Austin]

He's.

[Bill Goldberg]

He's. There's something about those Florida guys, man. He. Knobs and all those goofs, man. There's something wrong with him. There's something that they got going with this. I don't get it. But, you know, I like Hogan. If it wasn't for guys like him to pave the way for guys like me and you, it's like Don Frey paving the way for, you know, Chris Weidman. You know, it's. It's. He. Whether it be the wrestling business or the movie business, I mean, he's done things and broken barriers that I'm very appreciative of. But, I mean, he's part of the business. And when you mention Hulk Hogan and when I say he's part of the business, I do nothing but smile, giggle.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, you brought the name Chris Weidman, man. He had to bow out of a title fight trying to get his belt back from Luke Rockhold, who dethroned him several months back. Michael Bisping gets put in the picture. You watch UFC 199, just like I did. All of a sudden the bell rings. I thought Luke Rockhold looked a little bit overconfident, lackadaisical in my opinion. And I say this with all respect to Luke Rockhold, who I met many months ago when I was interviewing Daniel Cormier down there in San Jose where they trained. My point is, what were your thoughts on that fight? Because a lot of people thought, you know, Bisping coming in on two weeks notice, didn't have a chance. I've always maintained that while Bisping may not be heavy handed, he does have power in his hands. A lot of people consider him more of a volume guy. I didn't see him winning this fight. He's got the bad eye. He comes in there, fights a smart fight. I thought maybe Luke Rockhold took him too lightly and boom, two shots, we've got a new champion. What were your thoughts on that fight? What he's got brought to the Octagon.

[Bill Goldberg]

What I bring, the thing that I bring from it is that Bisping walked through Rockhold's offense. His attempted offense was precise and coming two weeks off of having a fight. So he's still on, or however many weeks it was since his last fight, he's still in shape to fight. And technically he's a very good boxer. At the end of the day, man, it's a chess match. And these guys who do mma, they're all nuts. And it's styles make fights, period, end of story. So one time when you think you look at a guy's record and he has no shot whatsoever of fucking beating another dude, I mean, it's completely dependent upon the style and, and obviously the matchmaker who wants the guy. I mean, you know, it's the same thing. Right, right.

[Steve Austin]

I know what you're saying.

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But then dude, anytime you get into a knocked gun and just this is me as a super fan, when they close that, that door, anybody's got a chance. No matter if you're ranked number one.

[Bill Goldberg]

Or you're the champ, pretty much.

[Steve Austin]

I mean, pretty much you have your chance. Yeah. If you connect. And I'm not knocking Michael Bisman, I'm just saying I think he came in what he was, what he Maybe is ranked 7 or 8, I can't remember, but I mean that's a guy that when he first look at Holly home.

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah, you know, my brother was in Vegas and said, hey man, does she have a chance? And I'm like, I didn't know shit from Shino as far as like Making a. Making a good decision, telling my brother when he's got money on the line. And I said, I mean, I really don't know, but I don't. I don't think she's got a shot. Well, I didn't know a lot about Holly. I didn't know who she was. I didn't know how to mentally she was going to prepare and how.

[Steve Austin]

Or how decorated she was from her boxing career.

[Bill Goldberg]

I knew she was decorated, but not to the extent that she was. And so she's been in wars before, and styles make fights, period. End of story, you know, again, so. And I met Holly, and she's awesome. And I got.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, she seemed like a classic. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens, because obviously, coming up in 200, it's going to be the champion, Miesha Tate. Here's the thing. Miesha Tate's only 29 years old. She's been around forever. So she stayed, you know, nose to the grindstone. She works her ass off. Finally was able to get that goal after being defeated twice by Ronda Rousey. Rousey hands a defeat at Holly Holm. See what she comes back with. So I think Misha fights Nunez at. Pardon me, if I'm getting the name wrong, at 200, then to see what comes out of that, whether Rousey will jump back in the title pitcher. Do you see that happening?

[Bill Goldberg]

Who knows, man? You know. You know as well as I do that we have to make good business decisions behind the scenes. And so I don't know what her motive is as far as her next fight, whether she wants to ride off into the sunset, MMA wise, and just go into Hollywood. She's the girlfriend of a good buddy of mine, man. It's funny, man. It's just funny how things are so close to home, and so you're such big deals, you know, out on the. On the. I just. In the atmosphere then, you know, I'm hanging out with Gage at one of his baseball tournaments, and there's Travis with his nephew or something. And, I mean, I've known Travis since. He tells me the story about going to my brother's restaurant, Pacific Coast Grill, when I was wrestling, and he was a little. He was a little. He was never little. He says he was a kid in the corner, and he was too scared to come over and ask for my autograph. And he's telling me this as his two kids are running around the parking lot, and he's looking down at me, and I'm going, fucking amen. I'm Old, you know, so.

[Steve Austin]

All right, let me shift back for a little bit of professional wrestling. That's enough MMA out of me. I'm a. I'm just an MMA fan. Don't know the total technicality of the sport, but I have my thoughts and opinions. I gotta ask you, man. We're here. We're supposed to be talking about cars, but, dude, I gotta ask you about. To your fucking entrance. You had one of the best entrances in the history of the business, in my opinion. That fucking music they drummed up for you. It was the right music for the right guy at the right time with the right atmosphere, the right attitude. And how did this thing become what it was? Because when you look at the great entrances like Undertaker, one of the best of all time. Triple H had a really good entrance at WrestleMania a couple years ago when Motorhead was out there playing for him. Lemmy kicked it off, and goddamn, it was awesome. I had that glass break, and it was what it was, but it was simplified. Here you are, the biggest, baddest, most jacked up motherfucker in the building, and depending on where you guys were at or how you were staffed, had anywhere from six to 20 security guards walking your ass.

[Bill Goldberg]

They were keeping everything, everybody safe with me walking in the ring. You know, here's.

[Steve Austin]

I like. I like that spin.

[Bill Goldberg]

The cool. The cool thing is. And this is. No, man, I mean, and I've said it a million times, is that it was all organic. I remember sitting. We were training one time. I was with Sting in. In the. In the trailer right inside of the building. And it was like the music vault, okay. And we were scanning through music and we picked. We picked Invasion, dude. That was it. That's. None of this was planned out. None of the, like the. Like the. The street. That was. None of this was planned out there. It's just like. It happened, and they just kind of went with it. Honest to God. You want me to. I mean, I've said it before, but you know how I came up with who's next? This is even funnier. I'm in San Bernardino, and it was. We were doing TV tapings, and this is before anything, right? I think it was dark. It was just for me to train, kind of like down in Orlando at Universal Studios. And I can't remember the name of the restaurant, so I won't get in any legal trouble. So I'm sitting down with one of the producers of the Love Boat and my brother Steve, and we're about to order, and the producer looks at me and he says, you know, you have to have a gimmick. You have to have a saying, you have to have a slogan. You got to get people behind you. And I said, you know what? You're right. You know where I'm going, don't you?

[Steve Austin]

It's Epiphany. Yeah.

[Bill Goldberg]

So the waitress comes up. She looks and she goes, who's next? And that was it. I swear to God. I looked at them and I went, that's it. Who's next? Because after I beat the first guy, it's open fucking season.

[Steve Austin]

So it's perfect.

[Bill Goldberg]

It's plain, it's simple, it's straight to the point. It's not. I don't like to be wordy. You know, it gives too many. It gives too many options to people to tear you down.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. That's how whose next was born. That's awesome.

[Bill Goldberg]

God. I'll pinky promise you, dude.

[Steve Austin]

Whose idea was it for all the security guards to keep everybody safe from Bill Goldberg?

[Bill Goldberg]

It might have been Dillinger's idea.

[Steve Austin]

It was a great idea. I mean, Doug going in business for himself. And I remember Doug, and I know he's not listening to the podcast, but, Doug, you were always good to me back down in all WCW center stage, guys. Center Stage days. So thank you very much for everything.

[Bill Goldberg]

You did for me, man. I love Doug to death, but I don't remember whose idea was. I know Shivani had a lot to do with, you know, with the streak itself. And, you know, I know Heenan had a lot to do. I mean, I don't.

[Steve Austin]

It was all organic.

[Bill Goldberg]

I don't know. I can't, man.

[Steve Austin]

No. Did he help you? Because, you know, Heenan was brilliant.

[Bill Goldberg]

He helped me. He helped me tremendously.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, he was. He was so funny, so smart. So such a worker could. But, I mean, he could work better than half the boys. He was just. He was like a utility player. But he. Whatever he did, he was a plus.

[Bill Goldberg]

I loved him. I loved him not only because it gave me the opportunity to rub shoulders and learn from a guy that I'd watched on television, you know, and thought was really cool and really talented and had me emotionally invested, who was a guy who, you know, inherently wasn't the biggest wrestling fan. It was an honor, a privilege, and he was fucking hilarious.

[Steve Austin]

I'm sitting here in Goldberg's garage. We're gonna come back because I need.

[Bill Goldberg]

To take a break because I legitimately.

[Steve Austin]

Have to take a break, too, and I'm gonna leave it at that. And we're gonna talk about cars. Hey, did you get this? There's a welding helmet or a burning helmet. What kind of helmet is this, Bill? Because it's dark glass.

[Bill Goldberg]

It's a welder, man. It's a welder.

[Steve Austin]

Where's the dark glass at? Did you get that from Jesse?

[Bill Goldberg]

Gage popped it out. No, Jesse and I aren't the best of friends anymore.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, dude. What happened?

[Bill Goldberg]

That's a whole another podcast.

[Steve Austin]

Okay, we're coming right back after a break. Apostle's cause sponsors to keep you on here for free twice a week. I'm hanging with Bill.

[Bill Goldberg]

I don't miss saying that shit's getting bad.

[Steve Austin]

God damn it, man. I just took a hell of a beer break. Bill Goldberg here, Goldberg's Garage. I thought I was going to talk about cars. And we will at some point.

[Bill Goldberg]

You took a dump that wouldn't have been.

[Steve Austin]

Start up the hairdryer. I gotta ask you about a particular poster you have right over there. It's Adam Sandler's longest yard. You and I had the spot in this illustrious movie. Did good business at the box office. And what was your character's name? Because I didn't know mine.

[Bill Goldberg]

Joey Battle.

[Steve Austin]

Did you have any creative control over your name of your character? Because no one knew with your fucking.

[Bill Goldberg]

No, but I did. I did. I did request the X. I did not have any creative control over anything. The penis thing with the jock strap at the end was a payback for him not putting me in the first couple Hanukkah songs, you know? No. No creative control. Except for stiffening a couple guys with elbows with wearing pads and the X. That was it.

[Steve Austin]

Here's the deal. It was you, me, Brian Bosworth, Michael Irvin. I don't know what Dalib sing, but we were all in the same spot. You and I all got the same doe which will go unmentioned. And so we all had that spot. How did you. Did you have to go audition? Because I did. And my part, I was a guard at the prison and I was a running back. And here's the thing, dude, I thought it was gonna be like a lineman or something. The time we did that movie, I was in pretty good shape. I was 275 and I was pretty good. 275. And I was drinking like a fish as Kevin and Nash and I. Kevin, Nash and I would stay up at the little lounge.

[Bill Goldberg]

I've got a great story.

[Steve Austin]

People were stupefied at the kind of alcohol that we were consuming. And then we were out of the house.

[Bill Goldberg]

Tell you how stupefied they were. I. You know, first of all, it's another subject, but you must tell everybody who the only actor was that did everybody Freaking football scene. It was me. Other than a couple.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, I did every football scene there was. When we had to run through all those pads and all the dummies, man.

[Bill Goldberg]

The hits and everything.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, I didn't have to do the hits, but I was running.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'm talking about the hits in the movie.

[Steve Austin]

God damn it, Bill. Up hamster. I know.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'm not going to go there. I was not. I was. Dude, I was going to glaze over. That, bro. That's like. That's like a football player going in the wrestling ring and not knowing what. It's like that you were a wrestler that went into a football.

[Steve Austin]

Well, here's the thing, Bill. Here's what you weren't ready for. Here's the thing, Bill. I was not conditioned. Listen to me. I wasn't a good. I wasn't as good a football player as you. I didn't ascend. I didn't get a major college scholarship to Georgia University. Wasn't widely recruited by many colleges.

[Bill Goldberg]

You're condescending in your, in your explanation.

[Steve Austin]

No, no, no. You was a bad. You played some pro football. I was good enough to get a scholarship at a Division 2 school.

[Bill Goldberg]

Football.

[Steve Austin]

My point is, I played football. I was a.

[Bill Goldberg]

But you weren't ready for the football conditioning. That's what I'm saying. So watching you go through that.

[Steve Austin]

See that wall over is 20. It's 20ft away. I was used to running to a 20 foot rope and ricocheting off of it and coming back. All of a sudden I'm on a football field and we're running 100 yards.

[Bill Goldberg]

We were playing. We were running. We. I was playing football. Then I jumped into your arena. Then we got to do the longest yard. Then we could go kind of go back to my arena so I could back up and watch you guys and kind of giggle a little bit. That's all.

[Steve Austin]

Dude. To see my crippled ass try to run through those paths. I was a running back and I was running back in high school, but I just thought I was going to be. I thought, dude, here's the thing. I always thought, you know, they're going to have a stunt guy for my shit. That was my.

[Bill Goldberg]

They, they had to at the end.

[Steve Austin]

Now, back in the old days, you know, when I was doing movies and that I had a stuntman do some of my. And I always did most of my. Because on the budget that we were on. Anyway, I pulled a hamstring. We was out there in the heat of Santa Fe. And then over there at El Camino Junior College, whatever, in Los Angeles. Did they call you? Did they say, hey, we want Bill Goldberg to play this part? How did you. You get that bar? Because I think Barry was representing me at the same time.

[Bill Goldberg]

Barry is the. Barry's the one who got the leap to do it. Yeah, because in the meeting that I had with them, I think it was the three of the producers. Adam wasn't in the meeting, but in the meeting that I had with them, he brought up the leap. I remember that. That was the most memorable thing about the entire meeting. That and the fact that I told them that I needed a week off for Sturgis and. Excuse me. Which leads me to the story reverting back to you and Kevin Nash's exploits. Because the week that I. But so my wife and I go to Sturgis and we come back and it was. It was like 4 o' clock in the morning. And I remember we walked. We were walking through the lobby and the. Adjacent to the lobby is the bar. And on the bar are two gentlemen that look quite familiar. They were both passed out and one was named Kevin Nash and the other was. What was his name?

[Steve Austin]

Could have been a dude. Looked like me.

[Bill Goldberg]

He looked just like you, but he wasn't me. And that was. That was classic. That was one of the things I bet that. Remember me driving to set on that motorcycle with a mullet with that. Yet with that. With that blonde wig on.

[Steve Austin]

You. You had some interesting moments in the filming process. You had a couple of meltdowns. What was going on with you?

[Bill Goldberg]

I don't know what happened that one time. That one dude who was your double man was. Did being a dingleberry at the breakfast at the. At the Denny's or something, and I wanted to eat him or something. I can't remember. Other than that. That was it, wasn't it?

[Steve Austin]

I can't remember. I just remember it was like four or five months out of my life. And, dude, we were on like the no punny. We were on like the no money scale.

[Bill Goldberg]

Because, you know, it was us going. Put it this way, dude, at the end of the day, it was us taking one for the team, but being a part of that team, you know, we. We can't shake that the rest of our lives. Because that was a cool experience.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, it was a great experience. And here's the thing, dude. I met a lot of guys living in Los Angeles, and I don't hang around nobody. You're a hermit out here in this wonderful compound. I'm a hermit. My little compound there on Gimmick street in Marina Del Rey. But out of all the folks I met, and I think you can back me on this, and if you've got someone cooler than Adam Sandler, throw out a name, because that dude was cool.

[Bill Goldberg]

Well, remember what Bert did for us. Remember Bert? You know, here's the thing.

[Steve Austin]

When I got a chance to go, he's talking about Burt Reynolds. I got a chance. I knew Bert wasn't feeling that great, you know, during the filming of that movie, but he was such a God dang movie star superstar back in the day. Of course, Deliverance, all the smoking, the Bandit movies, everything that Bert did, I watched. So I introduced.

[Bill Goldberg]

I got two. I got two Trans Ams down.

[Steve Austin]

He didn't know who the I was.

[Bill Goldberg]

The only. The only reason he knew who I was is because of my wife.

[Steve Austin]

Really?

[Bill Goldberg]

Really. Because she'd been in movies with him before me. Ah.

[Steve Austin]

But it was a good dude. But Sandler was good.

[Bill Goldberg]

Well, I mean, you know, we all got stories about Sandler. I mean, you were, you know, obviously had softer lips than I did. And so you've done. You've done more movies than I have, but, no, it was great. Are you kidding me? He put me in the Hanukkah thing. He put me in the Longest Yard. But, you know, the coolest thing I got about Adam is that when Gage was born, my son, you know, 10 years ago, he had a fever, and so they had to keep him overnight with Wanda. And there was a kid across the hall that had botulism, you know, the gimmick that, you know, would eat your skin. And it was just the worst thing you could ever see, man. The kid was like, 10, and he recognized me. And, you know, it turns out that his favorite guy was Adam Sadler. So I called Adam, and not only did Adam get on the phone with the kid, but Adam drove down there and saw him.

[Steve Austin]

That's cool.

[Bill Goldberg]

So, I mean, I'm not gonna go. You don't need to go any further than that.

[Steve Austin]

I'm on the topic of movies. Are you fixing to film any more movies? I've got a tap.

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah, man. September. Sometime in August. I got to go into pre production since I'm co executive producing this damn thing.

[Steve Austin]

And where y' all shooting at?

[Bill Goldberg]

We're shooting in New Orleans, man.

[Steve Austin]

God damn. God bless your heart, because I thought she was going to say, like, Budapest.

[Bill Goldberg]

No, no, that ain't happening. These movies aren't expensive.

[Steve Austin]

Croatia, which we did. The people. This podcast is worldwide. I got people from Budapest, Croatia, listen to this podcast. But I've been pitched a couple of movies that have been shot way over there.

[Bill Goldberg]

Me, too.

[Steve Austin]

You know what? Yeah. There's a lot of places I'm going to be, but a long ways from home is not where I'm going to be.

[Bill Goldberg]

No, it's about that claustrophobic, no ability to control your surroundings thing in a tube with wings.

[Steve Austin]

It's called an airplane. You don't dig it. Tell me about the movie.

[Bill Goldberg]

Hey, dude. Well, first of all, let's talk about a tube with wings. I'm going to London, and I'm doing one of the coolest things. It ranks up with two other things with Beatin Hogan in front of 45,000 people meeting you.

[Steve Austin]

Okay.

[Bill Goldberg]

And exposing to people that you don't drink all the beers that you say you drink.

[Steve Austin]

God damn.

[Bill Goldberg]

Further emasculating. You like being the only guy in the world. That's bad.

[Steve Austin]

Okay. What are you doing?

[Bill Goldberg]

I am going to Europe, and I'm driving Mike Skinner's backup truck in the Goodwood Festival of Speed. It's the coolest thing that I've ever done in a car or vehicle. It, you know, 200,000 people will be there. It's all live on ESPN, but I get to drive a Craftsman truck. Mike Skinner's backup truck, you know, where, like, Fittipaldi drives, like, Ayarta Senna's driven. All the guys who have won championships throughout the years who are alive are asked to drive certain manufacturer cars or the actual cars that they've won, you know, back in the first, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, up until, you know, even today, man, it's Jaguar, you know, asked me to drive a car up the hill, man. It's gonna be just absolutely cool. So I got to throw a shout out to Mike Skinner and Caymus. Caymus is our major sponsor. Yes. They're going with us. We're gonna have some fun.

[Steve Austin]

You talking about Camus Vineyards?

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah, absolutely. Chuck. Chuck, thank you very much, man. I can't wait. You better be listening to this podcast. Hey, dude, can't wait to drink some special reserve.

[Steve Austin]

I don't know, bottles. Myself and Kevin Nash killed of Camus during the film in the Longest Yard. Going back to that.

[Bill Goldberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And then a couple times when my. Me and my illustrious wife went to Napa Valley, stopped by the Camus vineyard and had a good time there. But, dude, when you're talking about. Are you talking about open wheel stuff? You talking about indie style cars?

[Bill Goldberg]

No, I'm. Well, Every. Go on YouTube. The only way you're going to do it justice. I can't Describe. Go on YouTube and Google. Goodwood Festival of Speed. They have every single type of race car that races from the twenties, the teens till now racing up this hill. It's an exhibition. They have a NASCAR exhibition group. You know, they have current NASCAR guys. They have Mike Skinner, who's driving the truck, up at me, who's driving the truck. I'm a celebrity, quote unquote. Driving up at Ken Block. Hawk drives up it. Every freaking European champion, Every champion. Can you know every single person, all the rally cars, the big giant diesel, freaking 18 wheelers drive this thing. It's the coolest thing you could ever.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, is Ken Block the dude that drives that gymkhana car?

[Bill Goldberg]

Absolutely.

[Steve Austin]

That motherfucker's insane. You know him?

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah, yeah, he's a good dude. I used to do some stuff with Ford when that lost. Man, that car downstairs that we can't talk about until we're standing next to.

[Steve Austin]

It, we're talking, how do you learn how to drive like that? I know you can drive, but that's it.

[Bill Goldberg]

Well, like my wife's a stunt woman. And you know, the way that they used to do it is like every stunt guy back in the day is they used to go to an unknown, an unnamed rental car company and take out all the coverage and rent a Challenger or a Mustang or back in the day a Hertz 350 Mustang and beat the dog shit out of it and not be liable for anything because you took out the $20 full coverage.

[Steve Austin]

It's true.

[Bill Goldberg]

It's true. That's how she. If you had her on here, she'd tell you that's how she learned how to drive as a stunt woman. Me, I mean, I've been afforded the opportunity to do schools throughout the years and you know, race with Dodge at Bonduron in Atlanta, wherever.

[Steve Austin]

God damn it, dude, I'm glad you said that. It's on my bucket list. I was talking about this the other day. I'm fixing to go to a neon bending class because I just love neon clocks. But one of the things on my bucket list is long range shooting. But you just brought it up. Whether it's any high performance school, I'm not singling it out, but because I know the name Bondurant, I want to go to a high performance school.

[Bill Goldberg]

I'll get you hooked up At Bondurant.

[Steve Austin]

I was going to do the 392 Chrysler class, just the street performance and then I wanted to get to the advanced level stuff.

[Bill Goldberg]

Now what you would, what I want to do, if you go, if you go to Goldberg95 on Instagram, there's my plug.

[Steve Austin]

Because Goldberg95 Instagram, that's what I do.

[Bill Goldberg]

You'll see the pictures of myself with the Bondurons. And I was fortunate enough a couple weeks ago to be invited by Dodge to go down do the Hellcat experience. The Hellcat experience is the same experience that every Hellcat buyer gets. They go to Bondurant and they learn how to go through the skid pad. They learn how to go on the track, the autocross, the braking and the road course. And you know, I mean I'm a speed junkie and so I spent all my time in the Viper, the full out race car, you know, going balls out man, because that's what I like to do. But it was an awesome experience. So you gotta go, I'll get you hooked. Great people there.

[Steve Austin]

How extensive is the class? I mean is it totally immersive?

[Bill Goldberg]

They have all different levels, all different levels from beginners.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, I'm going full bore. I want to do it all, dude.

[Bill Goldberg]

They've got stuff that puts me way above my comfort level and I've been doing this stuff for years. I'm by no means a race car driver but I'd like to think that, you know, the car is an extension of myself in certain ways and you can make it do what you want to do. You know, I've driven a number of races and I mean they believe me, there's some things there that get me on the edge of my seat and so they'll take care. Great care. Ya, you know, they'll, they'll hook you up on the podcast. You mentioned their name once or twice like I just did bond around school and I'm telling you, Justin Bell, One of the IndyCar drivers champions is one of the instructors down there. I'm telling he'll be at Goodwood racing with me. What's his name? Corolla's racing dude, obviously Leno's racing there, you know.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, we're gonna bring up Leno's name here pretty quick. Going back to Corolla, I've been to his podcast studio a couple of times, you know, big car guy, as you know. And you have garage. Yeah, he's got a lot of Paul, I guess all of Paul Newman's old race car.

[Bill Goldberg]

That's What? He's driving at Goodwood.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, that's awesome.

[Bill Goldberg]

One of his race cars. Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

You brought up a name earlier. Fell out of favor with. I used to think that you and Jesse James were good friends. And I brought this up not to rub you the wrong way. We can drop it if you want to. But I knew that Jesse would go out there and he started running Baja, running GPS with his driver. Saw a couple of his trucks that he built. He used to have a Trans Am over in Long beach before he moved over to Austin, Texas. And the back of that Trans Am said some bitch on it. And I said, goddamn, if there was ever a name for a car at it fit that car. And I guess it was probably. He had a lot of money put. I think Coors Light ended up buying that car. As a matter of fact, I could be wrong. Well, what happened with you guys? Because I thought you guys were bunch.

[Bill Goldberg]

You know, Jesse and I were. You know, at the end of the day, man, life's too short. And I. I'm. I'm all good with Jesse, but, you know, it was just a misunderstanding. At the end of the day, we like to make everybody out there and ferry, you know, and wonder and never never land and think that everything's peaches and cream all the time and that we have. We're hands on with everything. But it was an article that somebody interviewed me for. And I had mentioned that some other guy at his shop did the majority of the work on the black bike right over there.

[Steve Austin]

Right.

[Bill Goldberg]

And Jesse. And then I let them use the bike to go to Sturgis to be in their display. And Jesse called me and had a wrinkle in his underwear about it that I didn't give him all the credit. And I'll never forget, man, I had. I think Fry was over here. A couple other guys are over here. And I came down and I was talking to him on the phone and I was yelling and screaming, and I was like, my head was gonna explode. And they didn't know what the hell was going on. And I was, you know, I took offense to. Because I was at the guy's wedding, man. You know, and at the end of the day, it was. I completely understood why he was pissed off about it because, you know, I made it sound like he didn't do the bike. But, hey, man, Jesse was getting really big at the time, and he wasn't at the shop all the time. So every time I was there, he wasn't there.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. And, you know, on the other side of that. Here's my chopper story. Bill is huge into motorcycles. Anything speed related to his car collection. Man, I've been a car guy all my life. I just haven't bought a whole bunch of them. But I'll never forget there was four guys in WWF who was going to get choppers, and one of the guys dropped out. So big show calls me and says, hey, dude, so and so dropped out. We was gonna get four choppers built by west coast choppers. They're giving us a pretty good deal on them. You want to get a chopper? I'm thinking, yeah, for the money. I mean, it's still a lot of money. But I said, yeah. I mean, why not? I didn't need a chopper. You know, I like to look at choppers. Don't really want to ride a chopper.

[Bill Goldberg]

Good PR move.

[Steve Austin]

Moved. It's a good PR move. And it'd be cool to get in because we get a little bit of breaks. Okay. So anyway, I go down to west coast shoppers in Long beach, talk to dudes. Hey, man.

[Bill Goldberg]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Here's kind of what I'm thinking. The bill. The bill process starts literally. And I could be exaggerating a little bit. I just moved to Malibu. Dude, don't ever move to Malibu. Highly overrated. With all due respect to all the people that live there. It wasn't my cup of tea, but that's where I was living. About two and a half years later, here comes the delivery truck to bring in my west coast chopper to me. And this motherfucker was immaculate. It was badass. Metal flake, you know, red flames off a red tank. Skull right there where the gas cap is. No speedometer. The brake light was about the size of my thumbnail. And, you know, that fork seemed about 6 foot long. It was loud and it was powerful. So they dropped it off, they rode off into the sunset. And I get on my damn chopper, kick that thing over, start it. I can't remember what the deal was. We're mobile now. And I got on the Pacific coast highway and I rode about three miles, just going through the gear, loud as fuck. The bike was an absolute monster. I turned it around in one gigantic U turn because the forks were so long. I came back, my wife was sitting there waiting for me in the garage and. Male Malibu. As I come up the hill and came into the garage, she goes, well, how was it? I said, it was awesome. It's for sale.

[Bill Goldberg]

She said, was it a rigid?

[Steve Austin]

No, it had some. It was a rigid because there weren't no shocks in the back. And so, basically, with those long forks, it doesn't really absorb anything. Bill is unmasking a badass black bike right now.

[Bill Goldberg]

So basically, it was kind of like this.

[Steve Austin]

It's exactly like yours. It was rigid.

[Bill Goldberg]

And so. And so. So you can only imagine with the guy's birthday at December 27th of this year, when I will turn the ripe old age of 50, that with this rigid and the monstrous rear tire that you see that this is a spine buster. So this is currently up for sale, just because, you know, I'm a firm believer that someone else needs to ride the beautiful piece of machinery, Because I ain't getting on it again.

[Steve Austin]

Bill. My bike looked very similar in structure to this. The same pipes. Mine were chrome, Yours are blacked out. But basically the same layout. The skulls on the center of the tank. My gas cap was a little bit further back. Flames. And it was supreme. So shout out to west coast shoppers, and here's the deal. My wife said, how was it? Let me finish the story first. And I said, it was awesome. I said, it's for sale. And she goes, what are you talking about? It took two and a half years to get this bike. I said, kristen, I said, there's gonna be a lot of things that happen to me, but one of the things that's not gonna happen to me is getting smoked on the PCH by a car riding the west coast chopper. I wish I would built, you know, just like a. Just like a springer or just something, you know, just like a regular bike with regular shots.

[Bill Goldberg]

See that road glide over there, right? That road glides. Only been on the 15. It's. I don't think it's. It's been on the five, maybe two times. I've had this house for 18 years. I won't ride on the highway with these motorcycles. That bike right there, that's for sale. This bike right there, that's for sale. That one right there is the gold original Goldberg bike from west coast choppers. So that's never for sale, right? And so, you know, there's my wife's bike downstairs. It's for sale. My time now is predicated upon spending as much of it as with my family as possible. I can't put gage on the back of that, So I can put him in that, and I can put him in that, and I can surely put him in that. So why not get rid of these when I don't have the time to get on them and enjoy them? And when I do, they're just gonna shove My spine up and through, you know, up through, you know, the back of my head. It's not enjoyable anymore. And let somebody else have fun with them. They're badass. There's no doubt about this thing's got 160 horsepower. It's got more horsepower than those Prius things that I was talking about.

[Steve Austin]

What about, I don't know how you are, Bill. It's just like, man, I'm a brand of best for Kawasaki Motorsports. Just the Mule Pro FXT line. I got a KLX 450 that I had brand new in 2008. I still got it. That bike probably doesn't have three hours on it, but. And I didn't need a 450 because I ain't got the skill to control that thing. But they say with age comes the cage. Do you feel that? Just from a, from, from a safety standpoint. And dude, I love it. You. We both live in California. A lot of lane splitting going on here and safe rides for anybody who's.

[Bill Goldberg]

On two wheels lane, man, these people who split lanes, first of all, under 25 miles an hour, it's, or was it under 20? It's, it's, you can do it under, but you can't do it over. That's, that's, it's against the law. Correct.

[Steve Austin]

I didn't, I didn't know that because everything comes by me is screaming.

[Bill Goldberg]

Well, I'm telling you man, these guys who do that, you know, put, take their life and their lives in their hands and they may, they make it bad for guys like me who just want to go out and leisurely hang out on their bike. You know, it's unfortunate that they do it, man, but.

[Steve Austin]

Well, I think, and that's, you know, they're taking whatever risk they're taking.

[Bill Goldberg]

What they're doing is they're putting other, other people's lives in danger too. Because if a 75 year old lady looks over and sees a motorcycle like two inches away from her window, she might freak out.

[Steve Austin]

But dudes, my bike. You got that little gimmick mirror on your left hand of your steering handlebar. I had the same bullet gimmicks on my handlebar holders. I bet the, the brake light is, you know, about as big as your thumbnail and they make badass bikes. And let me say this, and, and I don't say in defensive of Jesse James, but I think you will agree, like you said, he was blowing up at the time. Did he hand build every single motorcycle that came out of there?

[Bill Goldberg]

No, but, but did they ask me if he built it? Then I'm, you know.

[Steve Austin]

Well, yeah, if they ask you that question, that's a whole different thing.

[Bill Goldberg]

That's what they said.

[Steve Austin]

But in an assembly line, yeah, he can't touch every single thing he don't have.

[Bill Goldberg]

But he never had an assembly line. You know that. And he, he, he. In the beginning, he had hands on and everything. But obviously once you get bigger and more productive, then you can't have hands on every single motorcycle. But, you know, when somebody asked me, when somebody asked me a question, then I'm going to give the answer. And Bill Dodge is the guy who mainly built the bike that in question.

[Steve Austin]

That's the guy that built mine.

[Bill Goldberg]

Thank you very much.

[Steve Austin]

Okay. I'm in a Goldberg garage.

[Bill Goldberg]

I just validated, you know, my entire fucking argument.

[Steve Austin]

Well, I'll put in some time because it's podcast.

[Bill Goldberg]

There you go.

[Steve Austin]

Do you want to talk about your cars or do you want to go hang out and just do your thing?

[Bill Goldberg]

Dude, man, at the end of the day, it's an honor and a privilege to be in the same breath that you breathe. And so the umbilical cord we talk of, such as this microphone that bonds us together right now. We may talk as long as you'd like.

[Steve Austin]

All right, we're gonna talk cars. I'm coming back. Joe Goldberg, thank you.

[Bill Goldberg]

That was eloquent, wasn't it?

[Steve Austin]

All right, everybody, gimme to go home. Coop. I'm gonna wrap up his podcast and ride off in the sunset. As you know, that means for me, take a shower, shave, get all gushed up. Go talk to Chip Foose down at Huntington beach tonight talking to Vampiro. They're both coming very soon to the Steve Allison Show. Hey, man, let me give you guys something to watch. And thank Bill Goldberg once again for his hospitality. Him and his wife Wanda and his son Gage, for being so kind to me when I went down in San Diego, I had a great time hanging out with you guys. The match I'm going to give you guys to watch is one we talked about briefly on the podcast, and it was Bill Goldberg versus Hulk Hogan. So if you just go to YouTube and type that in, you'll find this match. And I just got finished watching the match myself. And let me get back on the YouTube page. And it says, Hulk Hogan versus Goldberg, WCW Nitro 7. 061998 full match. And from start to finish, this is minus entrances. The time code is 8 minutes and 33 seconds. Let me tell you something. This is a hell of a Damn match. The crowd is absolutely white hot. Both guys were super over. Goldberg, of course, was going through the roof at this time. Hulk Hogan in this match, you know, he's making. He's having a heel run. He plays a chicken shit heel, and he plays it to perfection. A lot of people, some people, some people in wrestling, Hulk Hogan couldn't really work. No, Hulk Hogan really could work. He worked a big man style. He was the right guy at the right time and the right place, and he was super over as a baby here. He's got great heat as a heel. You know, he's starting to slow down a little bit in this match, but his charisma and his presence and his antics, and you watch him. He plays the chicken shit heeled here, but during the heat, he's very vicious. Rakes the eyes, rakes the back, pulls off the belt, goes to beat Bill Goldberg with the belt. And you know, he plays this crowd perfectly. If you scroll down and you read some of the comments, one of the comments says, this isn't a good match. Hit the mute button and watch it back. No, no, no, no. You're missing the whole point. These guys work this crowd in this building. And I would go one step further to go ahead and watch it again with the mute button on. It's still a hell of a match. It's very economic. They don't do anything they don't have to do. Hulk Hogan and Bill Goldberg are not going to go out there and do a bunch of high spots or crazy high risk maneuvers because that's not who they were. Goldberg, extreme powerhouse, of course, very athletic and capable of doing all kinds of things, but he's working with Hulk Hogan. Hogan Hulk knows his limitations and he knows how to work a crowd like no other. This is a damn good match, and I suggest you watch it. Because if you watch this match and you watch what's going on today and just kind of dissect the difference of the crowd involvement and how they're working that crowd. And Hulk gives them a look a couple of times, but he's not pandering to them. He's working them. And I tell you what, the match ends up with Curt Henning walking out. And I guess he's going to help Hogan. I guess. And there comes back behind them, Diamond Dallas Page and Karl Malone. Henning turns around, diamond cutter by Karl Malone on Henning. And then Hulk Hogan can't believe what's going on. Does a blind feed into Goldberg Was waiting with the big spear into the jackhammer, hooks the leg. 1, 2, 3. People start to litter the ring with some trash, but then the building explodes at the same time. Watch this match. This is a badass match. This is how you have a damn good match without doing a whole lot. But everything you do, it means something. They bought time. What's great is Hogan does a little chain wrestling. He'll grab a headlock, spin around into a reverse hammer lock, and Bill counters that. But this is a good match. It's a real good match and I think you'll have a lot of fun watching it because I got a smile on my face just talking about it. Anyway, hey, let's get a couple plugs in. I got some T shirts. They're over at broken skull ranch.com I got a badass broken skull IPA if you want it delivered to your house, go to broken skull ranch.com and we'll send it to you. Also, I've got a badass pocket knife from Cold Steel. You can find it @broken skull ranch.com everything Steve Austin you can find there. Hey, I want to give a big shout out and say thank you guys for supporting the sponsors of the Steve Austin podcast, because they're the ones that let me do this for you free twice a week. So big thanks to ddpyoga.com go to ddpyoga.com Austin and get 10% off anything you purchase for a limited time, including the new collector's edition of the Resurrection of Jake the snake documentary. 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