Hanging Out In The Valley with X-Pac PART 2 - SAS CLASSIC

Summary

The Steve Austin Show – Hanging Out In The Valley with X-Pac (Sean Waltman) PART 2 – SAS Classic

Released: November 6, 2025 | Host: Steve Austin | Guest: Sean “X-Pac” Waltman

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Episode Overview

In this classic episode, Steve Austin sits down with fellow wrestling legend Sean “X-Pac” Waltman for a lively, candid discussion about the evolution of professional wrestling, stories from their time in the business, the changing landscape for athletes, tough road tales (including wild hotel wrestling bouts), and the enduring camaraderie among wrestlers. The conversation is peppered with humor, nostalgia, and real insight into the wrestling world—both past and present.

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Key Topics & Discussion Points

1. The State of Pro Wrestling Today & The Indies

• Wrestling Boom & Indie Resurgence
  Waltman describes the current era as the “beginning of a wrestling boom” (00:36), though not identical to the one from their heyday. He believes the excitement is fueled by fans wanting something different from mainstream WWE, likening it to a “punk rock mentality.” (00:36)

  "I think it's at the beginning of a wrestling boom...It's almost like the punk rock mentality. And I think that's kind of fueling that whole indie, you know, pro wrestling like resurgent renaissance." – Sean Waltman (00:36)

• NXT as Refreshing & The Evolving Main Roster
  Austin says NXT is “very refreshing,” and comments on the “hungry cats” coming up through the ranks—the women included. He sees more talent “over now within that system than there was before.” (01:33)

  "...man, that tag match, knock it out of the park. The two women, knock out of the park, Ricochet. That roster, man, that's a bunch of hungry cats really coming up." – Steve Austin (01:33)

• Faster Pace, Shorter Attention Spans
  The hosts agree wrestling has gotten much faster, mirroring other sports. Austin jokes, “Everybody's trying to put ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag.” (02:32)

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2. How the Business Has Changed: Then and Now

• Old School Simplicity vs. Modern Athleticism Austin reminisces about the “old days” with slow, story-driven matches and minimal false finishes, contrasting it with today’s athletic displays (03:19–05:44).

  “…Back in the old days you could lay in a headlock or rear chin lock damn near all day…” – Steve Austin (03:19)

• Evolution of the Athlete Both agree today’s wrestlers (especially women) are “way better athletes” than their era. Austin says, “The guys are so much more athletic than I was or Triple H was.” (04:49)

• Source of Talent Waltman asks if the improvement is due to wrestling drawing from other sports. Austin attributes it to “evolution of human beings and the evolution of the business.” (05:37)

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3. Rewatching and Learning from Old School Wrestling

• Appreciation for Simpler Storytelling Waltman shares his love for early ‘80s Georgia wrestling for its “real simple” but gripping style. He singles out Buzz Sawyer’s intensity as something that made wrestling look “real.” (06:25–07:53)

• Buzz Sawyer Anecdotes The two reflect on why Sawyer wasn’t a bigger star: “that’s the reliability or personal issues. Well, dude was a little bit out there.” (07:53)

• Commentary on Online Criticism Austin dismisses critics who predict wrestling’s demise because of today’s high-risk style, stating definitively:

  “Business ain’t going nowhere. It's just gonna be whatever it is.” – Steve Austin (08:59)

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4. Mentors & Evolving Attitudes: Terry Funk’s Legacy

• Terry Funk as a Role Model, Not a ‘Bitter Old-Timer’
  Waltman strives to emulate Funk’s supportive attitude toward younger wrestlers:

  "I'd like to be more like Terry Funk than the old bitter sour grapes, this shit nowadays guy." – Sean Waltman (09:51)

• Moonsault Stories & Wrestling Innovation They discuss the shift Funk made into “death matches” in his 50s and the innovation of moves like the moonsault. Waltman credits The Great Muta as the first he saw do it in the U.S. (11:16).

• Austin’s Fake Moonsault Tale Austin jokes about doing a moonsault from the top of a cage in MSG, only to admit: “No, I’m lying.” (11:43)

  "You did?" – Waltman
  “No, I'm lying.” – Austin (11:41–11:45)

• Color Commentary Moments Austin describes how awe-inspiring it was watching Benoit and Kurt Angle work up close while on commentary. (12:19)

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5. Giving Respect Where It’s Due

• Realizing a Peer’s Greatness Austin and Waltman talk about how competitive top wrestlers can be and the moment you truly appreciate someone’s skill after facing them yourself. Austin’s example: Shawn Michaels, who was far more than “just a spot guy.” (13:54–15:12)

  “This ain't just a high spot guy. This guy is awesome in every single facet. Of the game. From timing to lock up to psychology, execution, selling fire, whatever it needed to be, the dude had that plus 100% more.” – Steve Austin (14:38)

• Ric Flair's Greatness Waltman and Austin both recall working with Ric Flair and realizing why he’s considered the greatest. (15:18–16:38)

  "Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's the greatest. And then you go, okay, now I know why he's the greatest." – Sean Waltman (15:18)

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6. Tales from Japan – Wrestling Abroad

• First Tours and Culture Shock
  Waltman recalls his early-’90s Japan tours: “I thought I was way better than I was.” His spectacular style caught attention, but he lacked ring psychology and match structure. (19:25–20:40)

• Austin’s Japan Tour, Working While Injured
  Austin recounts tearing his tricep early in a tour, but still wrestling nightly—a sign of the era’s toughness. (21:18–24:53)

  “Dude, back in the day, when you tore your tricep off your arm, you didn't go home. You wrestled every single night.” – Steve Austin (24:53)

• Never Working ‘Strong Style’
  Both clarify that the idea all Japanese matches are stiff is a misnomer—top guys worked hard, but the real issue was always about fan engagement. (25:19–26:14)

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7. International Styles & Mentality

• Comparing Mexico, Japan, and U.S. Mindsets Waltman shares that, in Mexico, it’s “me, me, me” versus the U.S. where they try to make the match and their opponent look good. (27:16–28:08)

• Bruiser Brody Anecdote Austin thanks Blue Meanie (Brian Heffern) for sending him a Brody documentary and recaps infamous stories about Brody’s death, referencing Tony Atlas and Dutch Mantell. (28:08)

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8. Getting Paid (or Not) on the Road

• Challenging Payment Scenarios Waltman recalls pro wrestling’s sometimes sketchy, dangerous payment culture, especially in Puerto Rico—insisting on payment before performing and finding stacks of small bills as his pay. (29:17–30:49)

  "I’m not putting my gear on until I get my money." – Sean Waltman (30:27)
  “Billy was there with me. Let's just put it that way.” (30:49)

• Comedic Story: Billy Gunn’s Strength Austin recounts wrestling Billy Gunn, ending up in a crushing side headlock, and using creative wordplay to wriggle out of a promise. (31:29–33:35)

  “Billy can hurt you just by shaking your hand.” – Steve Austin (31:05)

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9. Drunken Wrestler Brawls & Road Life

• Drunk Takedown Tournaments Waltman and Austin reminisce about late-night hotel “takedown tournaments” with guys like Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, and Lex Luger, highlighting the brotherhood and wildness of the road. (34:29–35:21)

  "It was just all just a big drunken mess. And it happened all the time. It was like a bunch of big kids." – Sean Waltman (34:34)

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10. Podcasting, YouTube & Favorite Wrestling Video Wormholes

• Waltman’s Podcast & YouTube Channel Waltman plugs his podcasts and new YouTube ventures, aiming to preserve and share old interviews and add new content. (37:09–37:43)

  “All the shows are going to live on there from now on...And there's going to be some other stuff I'm going to be putting on there, too.” (37:43)

• Austin’s YouTube Habits Austin confesses he watches the same wrestling and music videos almost every night, defending his routines to his wife. Favorites include “The Silvers” and old NWA matches. (38:01–39:31)

• 'Wrestling Rabbit Hole' Mystery Science Theater-style Show Waltman mentions a new project where he and Kevin Undergaro commentate on classic, often obscure wrestling clips. (39:29–39:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Wrestling’s Future:

  "Business ain't going nowhere. It's just gonna be whatever it is." – Steve Austin (08:59)

• On Working with Shawn Michaels:

  “This ain't just a high spot guy. This guy is awesome in every single facet. Of the game.” – Steve Austin (14:38)

• On Evolution of Athletes:

  “I think it's the evolution of human beings and the evolution of the business just getting a little bit more, I don't want to say acrobatic, but athletic is probably the best way I could say.” – Steve Austin (05:51)

• On Getting Paid in Puerto Rico:

  "I'm not putting my gear on until I get my money." – Sean Waltman (30:27)

• On Drunken Hotel Wrestling:

  "It was just all just a big drunken mess. And it happened all the time. It was like a bunch of big kids." – Sean Waltman (34:34)

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Recommended Timestamps

• State of Wrestling/Indie Boom: 00:36 – 01:33
• Old School Match Format vs. Today: 03:17 – 05:44
• Buzz Sawyer, Old School Realism: 06:25 – 07:53
• On Critics & Evolution: 08:14 – 08:59
• Terry Funk & Death Matches: 09:51 – 11:36
• Shawn Michaels/Wrestling with Greats: 13:31 – 16:38
• Japan Tales & Learning Curve: 19:18 – 24:53
• Getting Paid in Puerto Rico: 29:17 – 30:49
• Billy Gunn Headlock & Drunk Brawls: 31:29 – 35:21
• X-Pac’s YouTube/Podcast Info: 37:09 – 37:43
• Favorite YouTube Viewing: 38:01 – 39:31
• Wrestling Rabbit Hole Project: 39:29 – 39:54

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Conclusion

This episode is packed with wrestling wisdom, humor, and the hard-earned perspective that only decades in the ring can provide. From deep dives into wrestling psychology, athlete evolution, international ring differences, and legendary road stories, it’s a must-listen (or must-read summary!) for fans of classic and modern wrestling alike.

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Find Sean “X-Pac” Waltman at:

• Podcast: “X-Pac 12360” (Westwood One, AfterBuzz TV, YouTube.com/xpoc)
• YouTube channel for full interviews and new content

Find Steve Austin:

• The Steve Austin Show, Tuesdays @ PodcastOne
• Social: @steveaustinBSR

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End of summary. This covers the important segments, personalities, quotes, and timestamps, in the hosts’ voices and with a clear structure for both wrestling aficionados and newcomers to the show.

Transcript

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[Steve Austin]

This is the Steve Austin Show. What do you think the state of the business is right now?

[Sean Waltman]

I think it's at the beginning of a wrestling boom. It's not going to be like, I don't think it's going to be comparable to the one we went through, Steve, because I don't, I just think that landscape is too different. But I can't help but feel that like just because like I'm out there, you know, and I feel that the excitement that's getting picked up and you know, I honestly think a lot of it is the people that are frustrated with the WWE project product, the ones that, you know, you're not gonna please them no matter what. Maybe, I don't know, they just, they just want to be the, they just want to be the counterculture. I don't know, almost like the punk rock mentality. And I think that's kind of fueling that whole the end, the indie, you know, pro wrestling like resurgent renaissance. I don't know what you want to call it, but you know, I mean there's a lot of guys out there doing well right now. Maybe not getting rich, but it seems.

[Steve Austin]

Like the rosters coming around on the main roster and the NXT thing is very refreshing to me because I don't watch it on a regular basis. And I got a chance to watch, man, that tag match, knock it out of the park. The two women, knock out of the park, ricochet. That roster, man, that's a bunch of hungry cats really coming up. When I look at the main roster, there's more to me, there's more guys over now within that system than there was before. So it seems like everybody's coming around and I think it's the experience, I think it's a year or two or more has even passed and the work is getting better. You can always improve and, and there's always gonna be some young guys. It's a hurry up system because man, they're trying to get more and more talent up there, get ready for the big program, for the big show. And so it is what it is. But to me now, some of the guys have been there, some of them for over 10 years and then the other ones they're coming around going into year five and six and I still have my peccadilloes about some of the telegraphing and stuff like that. But that I think that goes along with the business speeding up. Like they've sped up the game of baseball, football. They're trying to hurry up all this stuff and it's short attention span theater. Everybody's trying to put ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag, more so than they used to. I don't know if you remember this back in the early 90s when we were going to TV tapings in WCW. I don't know where you were at the time, but the way things work back in. Did we be at center stage or Anderson, South Carolina or Dothan, Alabama or any of those.

[Sean Waltman]

Gainesville, Georgia.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, any of those towns about 100 mile striking distance Atlanta. You go to TV and the business was so simple back in. And you're a student of the history of the business. Back in the old days you could lay in a headlock or rear chin lock damn near all day. You could almost do that in the early 90s to a degree. But you only got for the most part the way WCW worked back when I was there. You got a one minute, go home, Cue. And that's why there was no really tremendous comebacks by and large. I'm just not a blanket statement for most of the matches unless guys are really thinking or ahead of all the rest of the boys, which I wasn't. You got a minute, go home Cue. Guy started, Babyface started his comeback and you went home. You can watch that shit. There was not nearly as many false finishes back in those days as there are in the last 10 to 15 years.

[Sean Waltman]

But especially now, no big Pat Patterson, 15 minute finishes.

[Steve Austin]

You had Eddie Graham in Florida who was doing lights out stuff. But that might have been more house show oriented. But as far as the television product, my point is that's how simple it was back then these days and more power to the generations that have come since. You and I have been out of the game for the most. Everything has kind of evolved and dude, not, not even Ricochet. Well, Ricochet is probably like said the last week on my podcast, probably the best athlete I've ever seen in a ring.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But hard to argue that a blanket statement. I think that the guys and girls, especially the girls obviously because there wasn't that many when you were you and me were around Sensational Sherry, I mean Medusa. And then we had, you know, the generation of women that we were with. But man, the women are obviously way better athletes. But dude, the guys are so much more athletic than I was or Triple H was. Sean would be at the head of the class as well. You were a really good athlete, but no than it was from the 70s to the 80s. And when I say that you always had your dynamite kids, people like that, who are badasses and great athletes. But, but the athletic ability these days, they're much more well rounded athletes than we were.

[Sean Waltman]

Do you think that it's because we're like the business, the industry's attracting.

[Steve Austin]

More.

[Sean Waltman]

Of the world class athletes from different sports now? Or is it just the evolution of human beings?

[Steve Austin]

I think it's the evolution of human beings and the evolution of the business just getting a little bit more, I don't want to say acrobatic, but athletic is probably the best way I could say because I mean, dude, you know, back in the day, from your, your dick, the bruiser days, Crusher man. What are the guys locking up? Grabbing headlocks.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

You know, send a guy in for a tackle, no one's going down. Yeah, you lock up, grab a headlock again. I mean, yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a whole different ball game.

[Sean Waltman]

I really, Steve, I've been going back on YouTube and somebody put up some early 80s TBS wrestling like, you know the stuff Gordon Soul used to commentate on Georgia Championship Wrestling and then it turned into World Championship Wrestling, man. Like I was watching some of that, I've been watching a lot of it and it's real simple and all that and you know, there's a lot of walking and talking in there. Uh, but man, some of that stuff is great. Like, like Buzz Sawyer in his early days. Wow. I, I. Have you seen any of that stuff?

[Steve Austin]

No, I don't know if I know exactly what you're talking about, but I mean, I remember it's just all the old shows, but Buzz Buzz Sawyer was like, this was when probably before the business got exposed. But did you thought Buzz Buzz Sawyer was told. Shoot, yeah. Yeah. And from, from the accounts that I've heard of, Dude Brother wasn't all there.

[Sean Waltman]

No.

[Steve Austin]

Well, he was all over the place because of certain things, but certainly a mad dog.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But if you're, if you're gonna be flipping channels on TV and Buzz was on and someone had told you wrestling was fake, you would see Buzz go, no, it Ain't.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. Not that one. Yeah. No, I. To me, I don't know what brought me down, why brought that up. But his stuff looked as good as anyone's in the business to me at that time. It was crazy.

[Steve Austin]

I thought he could have been a bigger star than he was.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But that's the reliability or personal issues. Well, dude was a little bit out there. I'm not speaking disparaging.

[Sean Waltman]

No, it's pretty well known. Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. Because dude, I mean, he. He jacked a couple people for some money.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. Magnum.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

Different people, I think. Taker, even.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

Geez.

[Steve Austin]

He was. He was a little bit out there. I was on my Twitter account the other day and I had said that I think it was Ricochet and Adam Cole had ripped it up.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And then I got a response back, you know, one of these armchair quarterbacks saying, gd, Steve, if they keep doing this, where's the business? The business ain't gonna be here in 15 years. I'm thinking myself, dude, what are you gonna do? I'm just commenting on, well, you know, how badass and precise and athletic and psychologically what a great story these guys told. And here's some guy crawling up my ass about the business gonna be gone in 15 years. Business ain't going nowhere.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

It's just gonna be whatever it is.

[Sean Waltman]

This guy can go back on YouTube and there's all those old Georgia championship wrestling shows on there now. He'll love it. I don't know, Steve. I'm one of these guys. Like, look, there are things about Wrest and there's certain things that I'm not a fan of, but I'd like to try to be more like Terry Funk than, than the bitter. This, these, this shit nowadays. And these guys are going to business. Terry was never like that. If he had a criticism for anything, like, he was real good about it and he was uplifting to all the young guys and he wanted to help, like, you know, and he tried to evolve himself. He was doing acai moonsaults, like, you know, when he's over 50 years old. So I'd like to be more like Terry Funk than the old bitter sour grapes, this shit nowadays guy.

[Steve Austin]

But see, here's the thing. I just never understood when, When Terry started doing all the moonsaults and the death matches. Yeah, like that. Because. And Terry Funk is one of my all time favorites. And if you're any kind of wrestling fan, everybody respects him. So here's a guy who was a traditional old school wrestler.

[Sean Waltman]

Yep.

[Steve Austin]

Well, he Was second generation or third. I know Dory Sr. Wrestled, and then, you know, there was Terry and Dory.

[Sean Waltman]

Jr. And then there was Hoss Funk.

[Steve Austin]

But nonetheless, you know, the Funk family's one of the great wrestling family. So.

[Sean Waltman]

No, I didn't mean Hoss Funk. I meant Jimmy Jack.

[Steve Austin]

Sorry, yeah, that one doesn't work. My point is, dude, old school wrestler from, you know, traditional values and then at 50 plus starts going into the death matches. Yeah, I mean, because, like me, that'd be like me if I decided to get back in the ring and I say, okay, well, I could wrestle, but piss on wrestling. I'm gonna do the death match and start doing all the hardcore stuff. I mean, he started, you know, beating the hell out of himself when everybody kept saying retire.

[Sean Waltman]

I think there are. I think there are a lot of Terry Funk fans that. That's the only Terry Funk they know. They don't know that. They don't know that Terry Funk from. So. And somebody asked Terry one time, hey, how come, you know, didn't do moonsaults back when you. He's like, they didn't have them back then.

[Steve Austin]

Who invented a moonsault?

[Sean Waltman]

The first person I ever saw do it live was Muto. But like, I saw like, you know, first person I saw in the States do it was Muto. It was on Battle of the Belts too. He worked with Denny Brown.

[Steve Austin]

But that's funny to hear that. Why did you do Moonsauce back in the day? I didn't have them. But that's a shoot.

[Sean Waltman]

That's a shoot.

[Steve Austin]

But then he started doing them. Dude, I'll never forget, I did a moonsault off the top of the cage in Madison Square Garden.

[Sean Waltman]

You did?

[Steve Austin]

No, I'm lying.

[Sean Waltman]

Oh, man, you got me, dude. I swear to God, I'm like, whoa.

[Steve Austin]

God dang. But one time, here's a shoot. I was doing ringside commentary with, I guess Jerry Lawler and Jim Ross and Chris Benoit and Kurt Angle were working. And, dude, it's one of those things, like you've been up close and personal in a lot of matches, but I mean, I'm talking about, you know, matches that you're not in and not. Not even standing there on apron in a tag. But when you're just ringside doing commentary or I've reft a few matches that kind of where you ain't thinking about shit, but you're just watching the match.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And man, I'll never forget doing a color commentary because I guess I was going to wrestle whoever won the match. I don't remember what the storyline was. The point is, I was watching Kurt and Chris do work, and, man, they were just having this ball buster of a match because Benoit was always a badass, Legitimately tough, but just a tremendous worker inspired by one and only Dynamite Kid. And here comes Kurt Angle, gold medal Olympic wrestler who caught a hold of the business faster than anybody in history and turned into one of the greatest of all time. Those dudes are out there doing work, and then all of a sudden, Kurt goes to top for that frigging Moonsault. And I guess Chris missed Chris. I guess Chris moved or whatever. But my point is, man, when I was at the try and do commentary, yeah, but I was so blown away by how badass the guys were in the ring and being able to sit there and focus and not have to worry about anything. Dude, it was such a treat. You remember that match?

[Sean Waltman]

I don't remember that, but I know how both of those guys are, especially Chris. You know, I haven't been in there with him, and knowing how his.

[Steve Austin]

His style of work, who was the guy that you got into the ring with and, like, just kind of blew you away as far as, hey, man, this dude's good.

[Sean Waltman]

Ooh. Wow. You mean that I didn't already realize was that good.

[Steve Austin]

I'll give for an example, you know, how competitive the boys are.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And sometimes when I'm watching pro football, baseball, or NBA, you know, they'll ask, you know, one of the top guys, whether it's LeBron or Kevin Durant or someone like that, and they. They'll put over their opponent, but not very much.

[Sean Waltman]

Gotcha.

[Steve Austin]

Because that's how competitive it is, dude. Same thing with the pro wrestling business. That's the way I always took it. So, you know, it's like when I was, you know, C. Sean, I was always in different federations. I was coming up in Dallas, I was in Tennessee, I was in Atlanta. He was in New York. I mean, he'd already been everywhere.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And he ended up in New York. You know, he was Shawn Michaels, a heartbreak kid. And, you know, you see how good he is. He's number one rated guy and back in. Because the business is so competitive, you think, oh, man, dude, just. He's just a spot guy. Yeah, spot guy. High spots. Yeah. You take away all the high spots, you ain't shit. Well, all of a sudden, I got a chance to work with Sean.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

You come to that meeting real quick.

[Sean Waltman]

Yes.

[Steve Austin]

This ain't just a high spot guy. This guy is awesome in every single facet. Of the game. From timing to lock up to psychology, execution, selling fire, whatever it needed to be, the dude had that plus 100% more. So working with Sean, I already knew he was good, but I didn't want to admit it because, dude, we're not competing for the same job, but it's a competitive business. I didn't really give that guy props until I got into the ring with him. And that's when I knew what time it was. That's what I mean. Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

And I can honestly, this might sound silly, but Ric Flair.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, definitely, Definitely.

[Sean Waltman]

Because even though, okay, yeah, he's the greatest and all that, and it's just like, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, he's the greatest. And then you go, okay, now I know why he's the greatest.

[Steve Austin]

Dude. We was going back to one of those little television tapes I was just telling you about, and I do believe it was Anderson, South Carolina. It was myself, Ric Flair, I think it was Arn. It was like a six man match. And back then I was supposed to be the next Ric Flair, right? Yeah, I was more scientific wrestling kind of like a chicken shit heel. Dude, all I was doing was copying Flair. I didn't have his moves, I didn't have the turnbuckle flip over. I wasn't getting, you know, thrown off the top. I wasn't doing his move set.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. But the template kind of.

[Steve Austin]

I got labeled with being. And, dude, no one ever wants to get labeled as the next anything.

[Sean Waltman]

That's right. Kiss it, Flair. Kiss it, Death.

[Steve Austin]

But that was the guy that had my crosshairs on.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

So all of a sudden I'm thinking, man, this guy's getting older. And he wasn't real old at the time. And I was probably 26 or 7. And I'm thinking, hey, man, this guy ain't shit. We go out there and it's a television tape and.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And Flair starts off the match and he tagged either me in or in, or I think probably tagged in Arn. Dude, I'm sitting there on the apron watching this guy. Guy just do his, you know, apply his trade.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And I'm thinking, yep, you know, there's a reason everybody's talking about this cat being as good as he is. And that's why the legend of Ric Flair is what it is. Dude. When you're just sitting there with your thumb up your ass on that apron, watching the man do work. Yeah, yeah. You don't, you don't want to be compared to that because all of a sudden you tag in, it's like, well, what the, what I do now? Yeah, Flair just tagged out. How am I going to top that?

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, it's probably not actually.

[Steve Austin]

How many tours did you work in Japan?

[Sean Waltman]

I don't know the exact. I'm going back in about a month for the first time in 16 years by the way, but probably about maybe 20, something like that.

[Steve Austin]

Did you ever get a chance to work with Benoit, Malenko, Guerrero?

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, all of them. Yeah. Because yeah, the date the same year that Vince hired me was the same year that New Japan hired me. Masa Saito me. Right. Rest in peace. He was an awesome individual. I love that guy. Yeah, he brought me there for the Super Junior Tournament 93 which had Benoit, Eddie Guerrero, Dean, Malenko, Scorpio. Oh, Finley. My first match in New Japan was with Finley. It was great. Yeah, no, I worked with all those guys over there.

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[Steve Austin]

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[Sean Waltman]

Mmm, I've been working like three, four years.

[Steve Austin]

So mechanically you're pretty proficient.

[Sean Waltman]

Yes.

[Steve Austin]

You probably thought you're better than you were.

[Sean Waltman]

Way better. I thought I was way better than I was.

[Steve Austin]

So how was it when you went over there and it was kind of a different atmosphere than being in the States because of the way that the Japanese crowd watches the matches. Also with respect to the work that was going on there. Because dude, those guys working at a high level over there.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, well, luckily just, you know, the, the things I did were pretty spectacular for the time.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

So that made up for lack of, you know, any real direction in the match. It was kind of just, you know, go out there and I just kind of got my, my shit in and got to the finish, you know. But so, and, and when I first went over there, Steve, it wasn't your new Japan style company, it was Universal, which was a Japanese lucha company. Like they brought all the big name like lucha guys. That's where Asahi, you know, Ultimo Dragon. Yeah, that was his home company before he went to work for Tenrou. But so it was a mix, kind of a hybrid Lucha Japanese style.

[Steve Austin]

Well, did you ever get into a situation where you had to follow a match because with your moveset you could follow, you know, like a Dean, Malenko, Chris or Eddie. But dude, when I went, this is my first extended tour and it didn't help that I took. It was a three week tour and I tore my tricep off my elbow on the third day. So all of a sudden, you know, we're out there in those first few shows and on my first match over there, me and Arn had flown over from the United States on the same airplane. Ron Simmons was there, myself, Arne, Mike Enis on that. Yeah, yeah, okay, well over there. Yeah, he just did.

[Sean Waltman]

Well, yeah, because actually when he got back from that, he told me he was over there with you and he was, he was just singing your praises like there was no tomorrow.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, that's cool. But, but anyway man, sorry like fish on the way over there and all of a sudden we go to our first television tape and basically almost as soon as you, you know, check into the Keel Plaza, you're on a bus going to show. God dang, dude, both of us blew sky high. It was hotter than blazes friggin building and I wasn't worth the shit. Of course, dude, I'd been working for three or four years. Yes, I didn't really know how to officially get over. Whereas Arn had probably already been a 10 year veteran and dude, much more polished, much more seasoned, much more better at the presentation. Yes, and there's a difference. So you know, Arn got over. I was just trying to hustle along. But anyway, we got some of those house shows over there and whether it was Malenko working with Benoit Guerrero or any combination of those two. And I'd be out there watching every single match. And I'm sitting there in the back thinking, dude, how in the shit am I ever going to follow these guys? Because I can't do that. And it wasn't like Dean wasn't a guy that took a bunch of crazy bumps. Dean was just Mr. Scientific, man of a thousand holes, whatever his gimmick was. Benoit was just super intense. Also could do a bunch of stuff off the top rope. Eddie, master of everything, especially the subtleties and the nuances. But when any of those combinations tied together, their chemistry was so off the charts. Here's how you follow a match like that. You don't. Yeah, they just did their shit. So you go out there, whatever. As limited as I was back in, well, I never had a big move set anyway. But my key was just to be stunning. Steve Austin, or I would have loved to go to Stone Cold. Never did. But you get. You just got to stick to your wheelhouse. But until you figure it out, and it can't take you long to figure it out, but you better and go out there and just do your shit because you ain't going to follow. None of the guys that I just mentioned.

[Sean Waltman]

Right. Kind of like Khari Sane and Shayna Baszler went out there and they didn't try to follow it. Doing the same. I mean. Yeah. And Steve, I've never gone to Japan and not blown up on the first night.

[Steve Austin]

Like blown about it.

[Sean Waltman]

Yes. It's the jet lag. It's something. And even, even the second night, it's, it's a little bit of a problem. The third, the third night, usually I start if that's, if I'm in singles matches, it's a, it's an issue. Like I can, I can figure it out in a tag match.

[Steve Austin]

Did you ever go over and just get your clock clean? Because you know the, the deal was back in the day, said, hey man, they tell you lay your in.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Or these guys going to take you to town.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And dude, I never got stiffed or strong armed by anybody. I never got tested by anybody.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But you know, we was working with, you know, Hiroshi Hasi. What's the name?

[Sean Waltman]

Hiro Hase.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, Hase. One of the moto.

[Sean Waltman]

One of the best they ever had over there.

[Steve Austin]

Who's that?

[Sean Waltman]

Kanzuki Sasaki, Kensuke Sasaki, Hashimoto, guys like that.

[Steve Austin]

All those guys.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And you know the top guys work.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

To that mid. They're out there beating the trash out of each other. So it was funny, after I tore my tricep, that one night, guy moved out of my way. He was supposed to. I just my arm bent too far up underneath me. So he started putting me in a lot of tags and 6 mans to help me out. Dude, back in the day, when you tore your tricep off your arm, you didn't go home.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

You wrestled every single night.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And so I'll never forget sitting on that damn turnbuckle, sitting on the apron. Standing on the apron with Arn Anderson as Ron Simmons tagged in. And Ron Simmons went in there and dude, he was slingshot sending those guys in, you know, whatever he was calling they were doing. And those guys, their eyes were this big and orange, just looked at me and goes, God damn. He goes, I'm glad I'm not on the other side with that other team. Ron was lighting everybody up.

[Sean Waltman]

But I, dude, I never not hurt him.

[Steve Austin]

No, no, no. Not hurting him. But I mean, everybody knew that Ron was the man. Don't mess with Ron. But I never had to work strong style because as much as I had heard about it, none of those guys.

[Sean Waltman]

Ever tried to sniff me because, yeah, those guys don't work like that. That's a big misnomer. Like you said, those younger guys. And I think it might have something to do with. Once the people care about you and they're making that much noise in your match, you don't have to pull all that stuff out, right? Like you don't have to kill each other. The occasional well placed potato. You know, my. I never minded it, but like when people are making that much noise, like I think, you know, a lot of times. Well, for me, I remember like when the crowd would be silent, like I would get kind of like panicky, frantic.

[Steve Austin]

We lost him.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, yeah. And then you try to do whatever, you start hurting each other or, you know.

[Steve Austin]

And I was watching a. I get on YouTube almost every single night and I'll either watch music or old matches and I still go back and I watch a lot of stuff that Stan Hansen did and Bruiser Brody. And when they're working with a lot of guys, they're beating the shit out of the guys. I mean, they're laying the dude and they were the kings. But all of a sudden, man, it was Stan Hansen and Brody versus Terry and Dory.

[Sean Waltman]

Yes.

[Steve Austin]

And all of a sudden there was so much respect Garb. I saw that those guys have been down the road so many times together, but they were. Everything looked good, but it looked like even a more professional product because they weren't beating the shit out of each other. So it actually looked better. But, man, dude, the whole climate changed because the shit was still on. It was Hanson and Brody who damn near owned Japan and the Funks who were, I dare say, right at that level. Yeah, especially respect wise at the very same level. But Hanson and Brody were such a force. I think they had a little bit of the upper hand. But, dude, when you go back and watch, those matches are nothing but pure badass.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, it might have something new. Like, okay, when Hansen and Brody are working with the Japanese guys, there's a little bit of a language barrier maybe, and they feel like they got to go out there and fight for it more. Whereas, like, you know, when you work on what the other guys, like we're working with, we're trying to work for the match, I think there's different mentality. Like in Mexico. There's a different mentality down there, Steve. Like, you know how we have this just thing like, okay, we're going to work for the match. Like, I'll go into the match, like, trying to figure out how I can make my opponent look good, coming up with stuff, thinking of what their, you know, their signature moves are and trying to come up with cool stuff for that. And they're doing the same for me down in Mexico, maybe in Japan. There, I think the mentality is me, me, me. Like, what can I do for to make me look good?

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Sean Waltman]

And I think it matters.

[Steve Austin]

I've been talking about Bruiser Brody. I got to thank. I got to give a shout out real quick to Blue Meanie. Brian Heffern just sent me a documentary of Bruiser Brody. I've been talking about Brody on a podcast every here and there. And he just sent me a documentary on Brody because I didn't think there was ever one made on him. So I got to check that out. So, Manny, I appreciate you sending the Bruise of Brody documentary to me. You'll hear about it here on the podcast here.

[Sean Waltman]

And it's new, right?

[Steve Austin]

I guess it's new.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, I guess it's new, dude. I still. I was just listening to. I get on. Like I said, I get on YouTube a lot. And I listen to Tony Atlas Retail. That story about him dying. Dutch, tell that story. Did you ever go to Puerto Rico?

[Sean Waltman]

I did.

[Steve Austin]

Did you like it?

[Sean Waltman]

Sometimes. Sometimes, like, there was a couple times where like, if. If I ever have to ask for my money, I don't like it. And then one time. So. Okay, so Then the one time when I did have to sit there at the end of the night wait to ask for my money, I got that guy coming in and asking me if he could talk to me in the shower like it's some kind of a goddamn joke. Oh. And I'm like, we can go in the shower as long as we get my money.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

You know, like, is this supposed to be funny or something? Because, I mean, I'm not particularly concerned. It's just stupid.

[Steve Austin]

Asking for your money in Puerto Rico in a shower is a little bit different than going to PWG and asking for your money in a dressing room.

[Sean Waltman]

Right.

[Steve Austin]

I'm giving a shout out to pwg. I'm just trying to give a for instance.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

It can be pretty intimidating over there.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, sure.

[Steve Austin]

Because dude, you're in no man's land way in America and all of a sudden due to the climate over is pretty damn tough.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. So you want me to tell you a real quick story about my last experience here? Yeah. I got a call and I can't remember who the promotion was. There's different little things pop up here and there. Somebody with money also wants to be a promoter. So it was down there and road dog couldn't make the show and like it was like a buddy system. Hey, can you help replace me? So not only was the money like not what I wanted the money to be, I was fine, I'll go do it. But I'm getting my money before I put my gear on. Okay, no problem. I get down there and Billy's down there. I'm teaming with Billy and come time from the show, then my then get close to the match. You go him ego like the match is coming up. Where's my money? Oh, we'll get after the club said no ain't happening. I'm not putting my gear on until I get my money. And there was a big to do over it and they were pissed and but and I got my money and there was ones fives, you know, like because I looked out that went out the door, you know, into the crowd and there was none.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

So I'm like, if I don't get this money, might not ever get it. Yeah. And I got it. But I was really happy that Billy was there with me. Let's just put it that way.

[Steve Austin]

Bill is great to have it.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Because Billy can hurt you just by shaking your hand.

[Sean Waltman]

That's right.

[Steve Austin]

That big brick handed sorry bastard. I know he listens to the podcast. I always look forward to shaking his hand because We've had this feud going for years and years just with the handshake and we used to travel together. Did you hear the story when I jumped on his ass in New Orleans?

[Sean Waltman]

What do you mean you jumped on him?

[Steve Austin]

Man, me and Billy, we used to travel together. And he was one of the greatest traveling partners I ever had. Every time, you know, if he was getting to rent a car, he'd show up and there'd be a pack of Levi Garrett, a red man on the seat with a bottle of water. And he'd always have some good country music CDs going. And so we'd be riding down the road and. You ever remember going to New Orleans and going to the daiquiri hut?

[Sean Waltman]

No.

[Steve Austin]

All the boys used to go to the Daiquiri hut. And I think those drinks had a little bit more than whatever they make daiquiris with, but they were pretty stout. So we go in New Orleans, we wrestle. I can't remember the name of the building. And there ain't a hotel room in sight. That whole friggin town is booked. Somehow, some way, we'd met a daiquiri hunt. We're shit faced, we find a damn hotel. It's the last hotel room in town. And it's a big ass room almost, probably a little bit bigger than this area we're in right now. This is a big ass apartment. And then there's a bedroom over there. And so, man, all of a sudden we opened the door, we'd put our gear up already and I had my gold necklace on that Brian Pillman had given me.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And man, as soon as Billy opened that door, I jumped on his back, we started wrestling around. Dude, this is a damn near shoot now. I was working.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Billy of course, was trying to shoot.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And that sorry son of a ended up getting in a bad big side headlock. People thinking a side headlock is a work move. Horror shit. Not when Billy Gunn has your head squashed like a grape up against his God dang ribs. And so finally said, all right, God dang it. I said, shit, enough. I said. He goes, you done? I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I'm done. So he let me go. Jumped right back on his ass, beating the shit out of him for a little bit. And sure enough, he grabbing that side headlock again. He goes, he goes, God damn it. He goes, I'm tired of this blown up, tired drunk, already been working on the loop. And he goes, are you done? I said, yeah. He goes, you swear on your kids? I said, yeah. So he let me go. I jumped back on him again. He goes, I thought you swore on your kids. I said, I had a. I said, I got a billy goat, like a kid.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, billy goat. Gotcha.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, so anyway, I jumped on his ass again. Anyway, long story short, we finally stopped wrestling and shit like that. We go to the shop the next day, and men are dressing him like, I'm grabbing my neck, dude, you ever wore jewelry and all of a sudden you're trying to find your shit and it ain't on? You keep grabbing your neck, man, that's my favorite necklace in the world. Turns out we had lost it during all the roughhousing. It had fallen behind one of the Chester drawers, gimmicks, whatever you call it, there in the hotel room. And hell, I thought one of the damn people that cleaned up the hotel or stole it or whatever. Sure enough, we were back at the hotel the same night and end up finding my gold necklace, buying the gimmick after I'd raised a bunch of hell.

[Sean Waltman]

Oh, man.

[Steve Austin]

The moral to the story is, if you're traveling with Billy Gunn, don't cough with him.

[Sean Waltman]

Right?

[Steve Austin]

Leave him alone. Yeah, but that's just been as. I drew a lot of.

[Sean Waltman]

Those takedown tournaments in the drunk. Takedown tournaments used to happen all the time, Steve.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, really?

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, I remember in San Francisco at one time, it was like my first road trip in. No, it wasn't my first one because Johnny or Scott Levy had been in. No, it was my first one because he was. Started together. Anyways, it was Kurt, Lex, Scott Hall. Like, I remember Scott hall came up behind Lex, and Lex just accidentally threw Scott into bed of rocks or something. Scott's like. And just Kurt going behind Nash, taking Nash down. It was just all just a big drunken mess. And it happened all the time. It was like a bunch of big kids.

[Steve Austin]

But it was the thing that's like. God dang, man. We was riding up down the road back in the day, and it's like, you just do stupid to entertain yourself. I don't know.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, I mean, I've never seen. I mean, we're always messed up when we did that. It was never.

[Steve Austin]

Oh, yeah, dude, I was blasting my gourd.

[Sean Waltman]

It's the only reason didn't get hurt.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, if I had. If I'd been stone cold so bright, that would have jumped on Billy Gun.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

But anyway, man, I'm gonna jump out and get back on the mean streets of Los Angeles because I told my wife that I would take her to a certain destination. Tonight, where they have a pretty good margarita. But I'm gonna make a case that my margarita is so good right now, I might not even need to leave the house.

[Sean Waltman]

So your margarita games on point right now.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, I got the. I brought the best margarita in the United States of America. As a matter of fact. Forbes, the magazine you heard of. Yeah, they wanted to interview me about my margarita mix.

[Sean Waltman]

Is this another you doing a moonsault story?

[Steve Austin]

Hey, where can people find you and listen to your podcast? Because the The X back 12360 show is kicking ass and I know you've got a great guest coming up this Tuesday.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, I just don't know who it is yet.

[Steve Austin]

Me and Sean were talking before we went on air. Man, I've been doing this so long. And. Sean, how long you been doing this now?

[Sean Waltman]

Two years. I just had my hundredth episode.

[Steve Austin]

Congrats.

[Sean Waltman]

Thanks.

[Steve Austin]

But it's almost like you feel like you're inconvenienced and one of your friends could be on your show. And sometimes I feel like that. And I feel like, you know, I could ask anybody in the world, but I just kind of don't ask anybody because I don't want to put anybody out.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel, too. But, you know, you can always ask me. I'm always like, happy to talk about wrestling. I know you. Yes. Yeah, I do.

[Steve Austin]

I do work at People Find yet. And then what's another wrestling gig or anything you got coming up as far as appearances? How about the podcast first?

[Sean Waltman]

It's on Westwood One and you can just find it on all the apps that, you know that people go pretty much all of them that people go find their podcasts on. We're still with AfterBuzz TV for the video. However, I have my own. I just started my own separate YouTub channel and it's YouTube.com xpoc and all the shows are going to live on there from now on. And all the interviews from the old shows are on there. They're up on my new YouTube channel. And there's going to be some other stuff I'm going to be putting on there, too.

[Steve Austin]

You do have been around for a long time. It's starting to turn into the wave of the future, man. Everybody's on YouTube.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah. Right now. I mean, there's probably some other things that are probably the cutting edge thing to get on to, but I'm not sure what they are yet.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, but YouTube just like, easy to do.

[Sean Waltman]

Easy. Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

I like about it.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

My wife gets pissed off Me, because she goes to sleep way earlier than I do. So I'll be sitting there in bed if it's wrestling, watching musicians or whatever. And I watch the same shit over and over again. And she'll get out of bed, maybe go to the bathroom or just wake up because I'm making too much noise. And she'll kind of mumble, are you watching that again? And then I'll get up in the morning. And she goes, were you watching that video again? And I said, yeah, dude, one of my. One of them. Here, I'll give you one. You ever heard of that band called the Silvers?

[Sean Waltman]

The Silvers.

[Steve Austin]

They were there around back in the 70s. Hotline, hotline. Hotline.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Steve Austin]

I watched the Silver's Hotline video then. Boogie Fever at that. But I watched. I watched that video damn near every single night.

[Sean Waltman]

What's up with that?

[Steve Austin]

Dude, I just love that song. They were just epic performers.

[Sean Waltman]

Yeah.

[Steve Austin]

And she goes, why do you watch that every single night? I don't know. I'm just. There's something. I just. I dig that performance. There's a lot of other. I watch as well, but I. I watch the same over and over again, the same matches. I mean, I still got the. The Arn and Olie against the Rock and Roll Experience Express that I watch damn near every night. Dusty and man with the hands of Stone.

[Sean Waltman]

Ronnie Garbin. Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Austin]

Against Flair and Arn. So I just got my. I think that's happened out of Greensboro as well. Anyway, that's all the stupid shit that I'm watching on YouTube. Art.

[Sean Waltman]

That's great.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, it's great. I like it.

[Sean Waltman]

Oh, that reminds me, like, I'm so. Kevin Undergarrow and I, we put a few. We're doing this show. We just put them in the can right now. It's wrestling Rabbit Hole. And it's just picking a subject and then going YouTube rabbit hole. And. And just like doing, like Mystery Science Theater, you know, commentary over it, explaining some things, you know, like just the things that I know about.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Waltman]

So, yeah, so we did Haystacks Calhoun and I forget who else we did. But anyways, it's all old school people right now.

[Steve Austin]

Dude, thanks for having me over at your crib and doing the show.

[Sean Waltman]

I'm always happy to come on the show.

[Steve Austin]

Steve, we're out. All right, everybody, give me the. Go home. Q. It's time to wrap up this podcast. Ride off in Sunset. Before I do that, I want to thank Sean Waltman for being my guest on the show and allowing me to come over to his crib and shoot the breeze with him. I know he was dead dog tired from going to Chicago, Illinois and had a good time seeing him. Traffic was a bitch though. No, that's a whole nother story for a whole nother day. But anyway, like I said, packing up, getting ready to head over to Nevada for my antelope hunt. Ted Fowler is joining us on the podcast for Thursday. You guys have emailed me a bunch of topics and questions for Ted Fowler 361 and we will see what the topic of discussion ends up being. And I will also continue to tweak and work on my Margarita formula and we'll release that as soon as I perfect it because I am close, oh so close to getting this son of a bitch ready. Hey man. Prowrestlingtease.com Steve Austin has all my Broken Skull ranch. I need to come up with some Nevada designs and just have not done so yet. But I am and I was talking to Rob Crawshaw down there at El Segundo Brewing Company. They just finished last weekend a brand new batch of Broken Skull ipa. So stop by the brewery, get some right out of the tap. Or you can find it at Whole Foods and Total Wines. If you're in Southern California, if you ain't in that region, you're shit out of luck and you're missing out on the best damn IPA in the United States of America. And that is the absolute truth. And that's the bottom line. I'm proud of this last batch. It is absolutely off the charts. Go buy the brewery, 140 Main St. In El Segundo and get yourself some. Hey man, if you're looking to get a badass pocket knife, I got two of them for your ass. Cold Steel Broken Skull knife and a new Cold Steel Working man's knife both at my new Amazon store. Just go to Amazon.com shop steveaustin or go to Cold Steel Knives website and check out all the badass knives. I want to say a big thank you to all the fine sponsors of the Steve Austin Show. That's how I'm able to do this podcast for you twice a week for free. Please support them because they support us. And if you need more info on my sponsors, check out the show description to this episode for details. Folks, I am on social media, Twitter and Instagram, teveaustin BSR and until next time my name is Steve Austin and I will catch your ass down the road. This has been a podcast 1 production download new episodes of the Steve Austin show every [e-mail] that's podcast.com this November action is free on Pluto TV. Go on the run with Jack Reacher.

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