Rip Rogers PART ONE - SAS CLASSIC

Summary

The Steve Austin Show – Rip Rogers PART ONE (SAS CLASSIC)

Original Air Date: December 16, 2025
Host: Steve Austin
Guest: Rip Rogers
Location: 317 Gimmick Street (Steve’s home podcast studio, Los Angeles, CA)

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Episode Overview

In this classic edition of "The Steve Austin Show," WWE Hall of Famer Steve Austin sits down with legendary wrestler and renowned trainer Rip Rogers. The episode is a deep-dive into Rip’s wrestling philosophies, old-school psychology, and hilarious road stories. Together, they break down what’s lacking in modern pro wrestling, the lost art of match structure, and how Rip went from a diehard fan to an influential teacher. This episode is brimming with wisdom for wrestlers and fans alike.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Setting the Scene: Studio Life, DIY, and Rug Shopping Woes

• Steve opens with colorful updates about construction at his famed 316 Gimmick Street property, buying a rug at Home Goods, and bizarre encounters with space-oblivious shoppers.
  • “God damn them son bitches [rugs] are higher than giraffe pussy. I just want something to walk on.” (03:39)
• Anecdotes about Etiquette and LA Living: Steve laments a lack of courtesy in public spaces, connects over shared pet stories, and details driving rituals with his wife.
  • “People got no awareness of space or etiquette anymore… it’s like there’s no etiquette or awareness. People got their head up their ass.” (06:41)

Wrestling Talk: Construction, Upcoming Events, and Guest Tease

• Excitement for wrestling’s big calendar: Steve previews an action-packed weekend with UFC 209, WWE’s Fastlane, and the looming WrestleMania.
• Guest Introduction: Steve sets the table for Rip Rogers’ appearance – touting Rip’s decades of experience as a wrestler and trainer.

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Rip Rogers Joins: Workingman’s Wrestling Wisdom

Rip’s Resilience: Surviving a Hit-and-Run (15:35–19:50)

• Rip recounts being hit by a co-worker’s uninsured car while working at UPS, the hospital aftermath, and the long-term physical effects (“a couple hips in you and neuropathy in your feet”).
  • “Some girl at work come around the corner, knocked me better than a hammer. Boom, I was down… got her license plate number… All of a sudden I was the persona non grata because it made them look bad.” (16:29) – Rip Rogers
• Humor about wrestling “angles” vs. real injuries: Steve compares this story to a staged TV hit-and-run he once did.

Gym Stories & Recovery Training (19:50–22:00)

• Rip details working around injuries with machine-based workouts and endurance sets, puking from intensity, and why he gave up heavy free weights.
  • “I’m not getting ready for the Olympia… just trying to look above average for the 63-year-old. I said, you’ll never look this good.” (20:22) – Rip Rogers

Training the Next Generation at OVW (22:00–24:00)

• Talks about his two-decade run developing talent at OVW:
  • “64 people have got jobs with WWE, ROH… started in beginner’s class. I taught ’em old-style wrestling, call it all in the ring… Everybody had to go an hour.” (21:00)
• Philosophy: Get the basics, then adapt to whatever the company needs.

Becoming a Wrestler: Rip’s Entry and Old-School Training (24:00–26:25)

• Rip describes how, with no wrestling school to attend, he learned from veterans in cars and in the ring, debuting at 22 while teaching and coaching football.
  • “I wasn’t even smart… the guy says, ‘you go over’ – go over what?” (24:00) – Rip
• Brushes with Dick the Bruiser, getting “kayfabed,” and early struggles.

Legends, Old-School Psychology, and Territory Tales

Dick the Bruiser Stories (26:25–31:30)

• Legendary aura: “He was stone cold before Stone Cold was interesting… he’d take those teeth out and he’d register and he’d spit…” (30:02) – Rip
• Infamous for riots and wild antics—throwing someone in a wheelchair, barroom brawls, banned from major venues.

Ring Structure & Storytelling: “Book Backwards” (33:10–37:44)

• Match philosophy: The purpose is to win, not to get all your shit in.
  • “Book backwards. I’m winning… I’m gonna make you look like the greatest son of a bitch in wrestling, because I’m gonna beat you decisively.” (33:29)
• Card Structure 101: Build the night, save the wild stuff for the main event, no false finishes for the openers, and always keep psychology.
  • “Everybody’s got their own niche… like when you have the first match… whatever they did, don’t do it.” (36:32)

Tales About the Boys: Rick Rude, Paul Orndorff, and Ricky Morton (39:50–48:33)

• Rude’s Headlock Spot Rivalry: “Rick the Rude come in and start getting mad at me because I used the headlock.” (39:50)
• Praise for Ricky Morton: “Working with Ricky Morton was a dream… all his shit looked pro style, snugged up. You couldn’t feel a thing. Great worker, seller, great fire, great mean streak.” (47:55) – Steve

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Wrestling Psychology, Crowd Reading, and In-ring Nuances

“Have Fun and Slow Down” (49:03–52:00)

• Realization Moments: When learning the business, it’s hard to have fun; it comes after time, repetition, and confidence.
  • “As a heel, I understood it pretty well… I had all these guys that were great pros… just shut the fuck up and watch ’em.” (50:10) – Rip

Match Adaptation: Reading the Crowd (52:02–54:50)

• Every audience is different: Sometimes they want comedy, sometimes just violence—learn to read it and respond.
  • “You gotta be able to read that audience. If he can do five things, we’re gonna do that five things…” (52:13) – Rip

Safety, Gear, and Bumps (55:57–58:34)

• Baby Oil Rant: Both warn that it makes the ropes and people dangerously slippery—hated in the old days.
• Gear Tips: Always tuck your laces in; one-in-a-million accidents aren’t worth risking.
  • “I had three guys tear their knee up because their foot got caught in somebody’s t-shirt because the t-shirt wasn’t tucked in.” (59:13)

Bumps on Your “Bump Card” (75:17–77:32)

• Longevity tip: “We all get carried away… but you’ve only got so many goddamn bullets in the gun, your body’s the same way… you can preach it all you want, but it ain’t gonna happen.” (75:29) – Rip
• Steve echoes: “First of all, if you’re really, really over, you ain’t gotta do all that shit.”

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Twitter Wisdom: Rapid-fire Takeaways (31:30–75:17, interspersed throughout)

• Heels and Faces:
  • “Let the heel be a heel… faces, never cheat first or throw the first punch.” (42:26)
  • “Don’t be a cool heel. If you want cheers, be a goddamn babyface… but I love being a heel.” (43:06)
• Booking & The Office:
  • “WWE is VKM’s [Vince McMahon’s] company… it’s his. He’ll push who he wants and do as he wants.” (44:39)
• Kickpads & Realism:
  • “If you wear kickpads… you ever think the fans know you’re trying to protect your opponent, where you’re supposed to be trying to kill them?” (62:49) – Rip

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rip on Pro Wrestling Training:
  • “This is like being a doctor. This shit is so hard… anyone can do the moves. But to please the place, the timing, the facials… takes so much failure before that little light bulb goes off.” (51:09)
• On Modern Shopping:
  • “Home Goods… rugs are higher than giraffe pussy.” (03:39) – Steve Austin
• Classic Wrestling Philosophy:
  • “The false finishes should be safe for the upper echelon matches… we’re telling a story, painting a picture.” (35:18) – Rip
• On Match Structure:
  • “If I’m the boss—nobody does the stunner except you. Nobody does the DDT except Jake.” (36:32) – Rip
• Rip’s Most Powerful Teaching:
  • “When I got to have fun, it was after ten years… but you can always still go out and shit the bed and have to learn again!” (52:00)
• Philosophy on Having Fun:
  • “Sometimes you get on that streak and all of a sudden right when you think you got it, you shit the bed…” (52:02) – Steve Austin

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 15:35 – Rip joins the podcast
• 16:29 – Rip’s hit-and-run story
• 19:50 – Training methods and injury adaptations
• 21:00 – Training talent at OVW
• 24:00 – Breaking into wrestling without school
• 26:25 – Dick the Bruiser stories
• 33:10 – Match structure and old-school booking
• 39:50 – Rick Rude and Paul Orndorff stories
• 47:55 – Praise for Ricky Morton
• 50:10 – When Rip “got it” and started having fun
• 52:13 – Reading the audience and shifting a match
• 54:50 – Dick Murdoch memories
• 59:13 – Gear tips and boot laces
• 62:49 – “Kickpads” and realism in wrestling
• 75:17 – “Bump card” philosophy for long careers

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Final Thoughts and Next Week’s Tease

Steve and Rip close by hammering the timeless truths of wrestling—basics always matter, protect yourself and your opponent, and adjust with the times but don’t lose the core craft.

Next Week: Part Two with Rip Rogers—more road stories, deep dives on teaching, and old-school knowledge.

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Further Viewing and Contact

• For classic Rip Rogers promos, matches, and lectures:
  • Search “Rip Rogers Monster Factory” on YouTube for more wisdom.
• Stay in touch with Rip on Twitter: @hustler2754
• Help Rip get a new set of wheels: GoFundMe: Rip Rogers Raw Deal

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This episode is a goldmine for wrestling fans, students, and historians—packed with salty wisdom, hilarious tales, and proof that, as Steve says, “Some things never go out of style.”

Transcript

[Rip Rogers]

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[Steve Austin]

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[Rip Rogers]

Following program is a podcast one.com production. He started in a small town in Texas, worked his ass off to become one of the most famous wrestlers of all time.

[Steve Austin]

We're gonna take care of business tonight.

And that's the bottom line.

[Rip Rogers]

And now he's dominating the world of on demand audio and he's doing it.

[Steve Austin]

For the working man. This is a damn good outlet for me to spe the bullshit off my brain.

[Rip Rogers]

This is the Steve Austin Show. Unleash.

[Steve Austin]

All right everybody, welcome to Steve Austin Show.

I'm coming to you from the mean.

Streets of Los Angeles, California.

Today I am over here at the house next door to 316 Gimmick street podcasting my ass off, opening this show like a motherfucker. Holy shit, man. The construction crew continues to work over at 316 Gimmick street when the guys were tearing out all the walls and shit in one of the rooms, they noticed that where one of the light fixtures was, there was a leak coming in the house. So the contractor called his roofer over. Roofer looked at the house and said, hey man, we need to take all them fucking shingles off and put some new shit down because they had jerry rigged part of my roof from way back in the day when whoever put the roof on it was anyway, God damn, it's you know, pretty good roof repair and it's a pretty good damn check. I'm going to have to write These son bitches. So anyway, I'm going to get my roof straightened out. They got all the tiles off that some bitch over there walking on top of my house. The construction's going on. I got the tile in my bathroom ship whereby I ready to start painting and then they'll throw the floors down. Probably about another three weeks worth of work I'm hoping. But goddamn, you never know. But it's looking good over there, man. Shit, my bathroom is going to be badass. I'm looking forward to it and get my office all settled down over there. But right now I'm podcasting out of my little gimmick studio over here next door. I went down to Home Goods the other day with my wife and bought an area rug, 8 foot by 10 foot. I wanted one that was about 10 by 11 because this room is 11 foot by 11 foot 3 inches. And I wanted to cover up as much as that damn wood as I keep the sound from vibrating too much echoing and bouncing off the walls. But I tell you what, 8x10 rug cost me a couple hundred bucks. The rugs over at Home Goods are a shit pile cheaper than them some bitches over at Home Depot. God damn them son bitches are hiring giraffe pussy. I just want something to walk on. That looks pretty good. That'll kill the sound from bouncing off all the walls. I still got to hang some shit up to jigget the walls from settling down. But little carpet cost me a couple hundred bucks. Looks good, feels good. Hershey the Wonder dog came in here and started rolling it all over it, marking it up, walking on her side like damn Curly from the Three Stooges used to do. So she's already claimed this fucking carpet as her own. I got my little chair set up here in the corner. I just need a table to put right over here so that when I got a guest coming over, I can use this as my podcast room. And as soon as I get finished doing the opening of this podcast and sending it to Stacy in the 90210, I'm going to head back over 316 gimmick street and get into my garage and get some more of my neon signs to put over here so I can put a little atmosphere in this.

Son of a bitch, man.

When I went over to buy this rug at Home Goods, if you ever go buy a big ass rug, they got it like it's like a. You know those things that hold the rugs up vertically and it's like just thumbing through like an Old memory book, except the pages are 8 by 10 or 10 by 12, some big ass rugs. And I went over and goddamn, it's just me and my wife looking for a rug. And I'll be damned if here comes these two ladies and they gotta stand and park their damn shopping cart right where we at. And they start looking at the exact same rug that I'm looking at. And I've been looking at this motherfucker for about five minutes. Done opened all the damn rugs, looked through all of them, and I'm back to my original rug. 8 by 10, $299. I'm fig, okay, this is the sum that you want. And I'll be goddamn if these ladies start fucking with my rug. And I'm, you know, I'm not gonna say anything. Maybe she's gonna buy the son of bitch from under me. And anyway, they move on to a different rug. And so when they moved on to a different rug, I went back over there, look at my rug, and here they come over here again, and they gotta put their shopping cart right in the middle so you can't flip through no more rugs. I was already looking for plan B. You know, maybe this ain't the best rug in here. Maybe I can find one that's a little bit bigger. Maybe it's a little bit better. And I moved over about eight foot down the road. And sure enough, they parked her goddamn cart right where I'm at again. So I whispered in my wife's ear, I said, man, what the fuck these motherfuckers doing? It's almost like they trying to run me off. It was like I started looking around. There gotta be a hidden camera in here somewhere. Fuck. And then we went to another department. And I'll be goddamn if the ladies didn't come over. And every time we went somewhere in the store, them ladies was in the way. I don't know what's up with that. And then we went to Whole Foods, and the same shit happened there. I'm sitting there at the edge of the damn fuck the potato aisle. I was getting some potatoes and some sweet potatoes for my carbs. Lady just out of the blue pulls her cart right up in front of mine. And she just standing there, and she got sunglasses on.

She's an older lady.

And I'm thinking, why the fuck does she got a puller cart with a big ass whole food store and a lady got a puller cart right in front of mine and just kind of stand there? And I'm thinking, to Myself. What the fuck is this lady doing? My wife's over grabbing shit and putting it in bags. You know how you put your vegetables in bags and stuff? So I'm just standing there, just waiting for this lady to move. I can back up and go around her, but it was almost like a rib, so I was going to rip her. I said, I'll just stand here and see how long she stays there. She wasn't moving. So, fuck. I backed my goddamn card out. And as soon as I started leaving, she pulls her card out of the way and starts moving down a different aisle. I think people was intentionally trying to fuck with me while I was buying my goddamn rug from a podcast studio and trying to buy my fucking vegetables from a goddamn eat and diet. I got over here, son of a bitch. People got no awareness of space or etiquette anymore. And the two ladies that was looking at the rugs, they were speaking, they didn't speak English. They spoke, man, I don't know where. Somewhere in Europe. It was a different kind of language I never heard, so. But obviously, whether you're from a foreign country or not, you gotta understand that you're in somebody's space. I was there first. Had the ladies been there first, I'd have been working around them. And then the other lady, when she pulled her shit up next to my cart, man, I don't pull my cart up and block somebody in. Nobody gives a fuck anymore. It's like there's no etiquette or awareness. People got their head up their ass. I don't know. Anyway, shit, we drove home and I told my wife when we left the home goods, I said, man, I said, you can go ahead and drive. And my wife goes, oh, you want me to drive? I said, yeah, normally I'm. I got to be behind the wheel of a car. I always like to drive. But I was having one of those days where I just want to kind of chill out and relax. I said, no, you drive. Because every time we get in the goddamn car. Basically what I wanted to do was flip a script on my wife. And because she always bitches about me going too fast, this, that, whatever. And I was just acting like I was being chauffeured around, riding in the shotgun seat, just chilling. And I said, you know what? As a global icon, a national treasurer, it's kind of nice being driven around for once. And then when we came into the damn home goods parking lot, every time we go somewhere, most times my wife has to give me directions. If I don't know exactly where we're going, because I don't remember my way around Los Angeles. So I'm okay where they're giving me directions, but then once we get to the store that we're going to, she's got to point out, out of thousands of parking spots, she's got to park out the slot that she wants me to pull into. And I'm always like, goddamn, it's okay for you to give me directions to get here, but once we get there and I can see the store, Home Goods, for example, I can pick out a spot on my own. I'm not that fucking stupid. So anyway, to reverse the rib, soon as we got to Home Goods, I started pointing to my wife. No, take her right here. Take her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How'd you like that when I flipped a script on you? Well, that's what you are. You're very annoying. I don't mind you giving me directions around Los Angeles because I don't load my ass from a hole in the ground in this city. But when you get to the parking lot, I can find a goddamn empty parking spot on my own. So how'd you like that? Touche. My damn wife. I just sent a picture out on my Instagram account. Steve Austin, bsr. That's a picture of my wife taking Hershey the Wonder Dog and Moolah to the vet for a checkup and driving my trusty tooth 2003 Ford Focus. I was reading some of the comments on there. I said, God damn. He goes, austin, you got a keeper. And then because my wife's driving a 2003 Ford Focus and someone else said, God damn, dude, why don't you buy your wife a new car? Hey man, that Ford Focus ain't got but 65,000 miles on it. That some bitch is probably good for 300. Shit, I bought that motherfucker from my mother in law a couple months ago and I put a car cover over it when we went hunting in South Texas for two, man, I pulled that car cover off it started right up, took it down, just knocked a little bit of the dust off of it. So that's our car that we use to take the dogs to the vet because it's so low to the ground, it's easy for. I still got to put Hershey in there because she's getting older. Mula fuck. She could jump in a 4x4 with a lift kit. She's got them springs on her because she's young, but it's easy for her to get in there. And actually that little Motherfucker's fun to drive. It's front wheel drive. Got a little fucking four cylinder automatic. It'd be cool if it had manual transmission. I like shifting them gears, but goddamn, man, that's a great little errand car. Motherfucker runs like a champ. Shit, I drive that motherfucker all the time. Anyway, hey man, enough about all my bullshit. I got my podcast area getting set up over here at 317 Gimmick street need to get me a table, see if we can get some guests coming over here. I got Zoltan Bathory, a five finger death punch. I went over boat and talk to him. Rip Rodgers is on today. I appreciate talking to Kevin Owens. Got a lot of feedback from the conversation with Kevin Owens. Talking about the scientific and molecular level of giving a stone cold stunner and see how he absorbs that information. Man, we've got a real big weekend coming up. We got UFC 209 and that's going to be a hell atious event. And then on Sunday, goddamn WWE got Fastlane. Last pay per view. Jesus Christ. Last pay per view before WrestleMania. I cannot believe WrestleMania is already here. It is almost upon us and it seems like that other one just happened. And man, it was just like going to the Staples center the other day, man, all those guys, gals, you know, the boys, the girls coming in the damn dressing room. Been on the road, traveling. It's a rough grind and this is always the crescendo. Getting to the biggest show of the year. Packing people in that stadium, hoping for that damn sellout. People coming from all over the world. It's a global happening. It's a big fucking deal and they've been working their ass off. I'm looking forward to watching it. We're going to see what happens on Fastlane. Hopefully it's a great pay per view. I'd love to break it down and I'm going to watch it and see how it pans out. See what they're going to do to put the final pieces on the chessboard and they'll have a couple more weeks to start rearranging those things as well. But kind of really get some matches on the card that you can really promote. You've had a few that you could talk about, but now really hammer the card down and make the final push into WrestleMania and looking forward to big things from everybody on the roster. Man, that's the place. If you can, if you can get off at Mania. You always want to get off. You always want to have a badass match. But WrestleMania is the ultimate proving ground and it's a chance for big things to happen and it's the biggest stage that you can perform on if you're in the business of pro wrestling, or as they like to call it, sports entertainment. Nonetheless. Hey, man, like I said, I got Rip Rogers on the podcast. But before we get to Rip, I need to take a minute here to thank one of the fine sponsors of this here podcast.

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[Rip Rogers]

Steve Austin unleashed.

[Steve Austin]

All right, here we go.

I'm sitting here at 317 Gimmick Street. God damn. I always like to talk about the business of professional wrestling. And man, I was on Twitter the other night and I found Rip Rogers Twitter account. Hustler2754. I'm guessing that's your birthday. February 7th, 1954. Rip Rogers, how are you?

[Rip Rogers]

Yes, that's right. Twitter, baby. @ hustler 2754. That's right. 63rd birthday the other day. Still kicking, ain't croaked.

[Steve Austin]

Yet. How you.

[Rip Rogers]

Feeling? Oh, shit. I'm living the dream, baby. You know. Hell, you know when you get run over and have a couple hips in you and neuropathy in your feet, it don't get no better than.

[Steve Austin]

That. Hey, man, just to bring me up to speed, you just turned 63 and you were telling me other day when I called you on the phone, you was down there. Well, shit, I guess she was in Louisville, Kentucky. I guess you're training ovw. You got hit by a car and left. Was it hit and.

[Rip Rogers]

Run? Yeah, it was hit run. At the time I was OVW was developmental for WWE and I was driving down To Louisville every day and excuse my French, but they wouldn't give me any insurance. So I had to have another job at UPS at night to have insurance. So some girl at work come around the corner, knocked me better than a hammer. Boom, I was down. I got her license plate number and the two time employee of the month. All of a sudden I was the Persona non grata because it made it made them look.

[Steve Austin]

Bad. So what happened? Were you in a car or you got hit by the car? Just your.

[Rip Rogers]

Person. Oh hell, I was what I was come out of the office and stepped into the road in the parking lot and one of their employees driving somebody else's car with no insurance, no. Etc license or anything. They ran me over and took off and I got their license plate number. That was.

[Steve Austin]

Lovely. Now years ago we worked an angle. I had to go get my neck cut on, had to get C3.4 fused. So we did a little gig in the parking lot where somebody come by, clipped a stunt double. All of a sudden we stopped rolling film. I laid down, we start filming and all of a sudden somebody ran over stone cold to get him out of the picture. Okay, R.I.P. that wasn' angle. And you saw the bump that that guy took if you saw it or whatever. But how fast was this lady going? What'd you do? Did you flip over the hood like a damn movie star? Did you go underneath the wheels? What happened? Because I'm sure glamorous as they would like to make on.

[Rip Rogers]

Tv. No, I wasn't expecting to bump. So I did put it over a little bit but then I jumped right back up and I had the adrenaline in me. In the meantime I'm trying to get to go to work and people are looking at me. I'm walking in there and I'm fucking adrenalized up. So hell I just thought was another night the office. I just knew everything was hurting. But anyway, a day in the life of the hustler, I.

[Steve Austin]

Guess. So what they do, you take it down to the emergency room. What was.

[Rip Rogers]

Diagnosed? Oh yeah, buddy of mine that worked next to me there in small sort he. He took me to the emergency room. So I got, I got out at about 1:30 in the morning. But the next day I was down, excuse me, in a goddamn.

[Steve Austin]

Wheelchair. Hey, but that doctor told you something back in the day. He goes, you'll probably be all right, but this thing's going. This is going to hit you down the road. You told me you started feeling it.

[Rip Rogers]

Finally. Yeah, I finally did. All of a sudden my hips Is throbbing. And my thing like you do your knee pull ins and tendons right there. I'm just killing me. I didn't know what the hell it was. I thought I'd pulled some, but I ain't got nothing to pull anyway. But all of a sudden I had to have one hip done and the other hip done. And then the colts doctor, he did me the one hip and it's a shits now, of course. And then some. Some little redneck doctor from Seymour, Indiana, did the new style and it's not like new, but it's. It's twice as good as the other one. So. Small town over the big city, boy, once.

[Steve Austin]

Again. Hey, man, how your knees doing? And your.

[Rip Rogers]

Shoulders? Oh, I got two torn rotary cuffs. It don't matter. I've been to. I already got my three hours into gym today, doing my nothing but reps with almost no weight and don't care. Get that little pump going and all of a sudden £5 feels like 50. So. So what the hell.

[Steve Austin]

Right? Hey man, I was reading one.

Of your tweets you sent out and I think you were working out and we were talking just the other day you said you're doing sets of 100 and so forth. Said you went to the bathroom because you had to.

Puke. Dude, I ain't puke from working.

Out in a long time, so maybe I need to pick up a little intensity tips from you. What did you do to make yourself puke from working.

[Rip Rogers]

Out? Just push faster and don't have any.

[Steve Austin]

Rest. How much weight you got on the.

[Rip Rogers]

Bar? Oh, I use. They're all machines. All machines and.

[Steve Austin]

Cables. So you got away from the free.

[Rip Rogers]

Weights? Oh, yeah, because it was just, it was just killing me. The free weights were. I'm not getting ready for the Olympia, so what the hell, I'm trying to look above average for the 63 year old. Of course, the gym says, oh, you look great for 63 year old. I said, you, you'll never look this good. You're in the prime of life. Go.

[Steve Austin]

Yourself. Hey, so how long you been teaching down at ovw? Still doing it.

[Rip Rogers]

Right? Yeah, I'll be down there Saturday and Sunday. Hell, it's been about, about 20 years. I'm thinking close to that or whatever. So l 64 people have got jobs with WWE, Rohtna, whatever. They come to the door in a beginner's class. Not the guys they chose, you know, that you're our super stud, but guys that come in off the street, starting beginners. Well, hell, that Was like Santino was one. Mike Mondo was one of the Spirit squad, jtg, he was one. Armando Estrada. All these guys come in beginners class, got into my class and then I taught him the old style wrestling where you. Everything was called in the ring and everybody, and everybody had to go an hour. And that's the way it was. And I said, if you get this shit down and you get a job, forget everything I got down. Told you. And you got this. Do as you're goddamn told. But. And that's what that if you can get the heart, if you can learn this, when all of a sudden you have your what I call the pre arranged bullshit matches of getting all your shit lined up, then you'll be able to handle.

[Steve Austin]

Anything. If you were to get back in the ring, say everything was all copacetic with your body, would you be able to go into the ring with.

[Rip Rogers]

The prefab match with people line their shit up? Hell no. No, I'm a, I'm an artiste. I'm a heel. Calling this son of a bitch. I had guys doing two hour matches, you know what I mean? Just unbelievable. And they get this shit because I tell them I can't watch tv because you'll be confused. But those guys are rich. So what the hell, that's what you want to be. So. But learn this shit from the ground floor. Nothing but the nuts and bolts, the basics. And it's practice, practice, practice. And you get this shit down. Pretty soon your body language will be there, your facials will be there. You'll get all this shit. No matter how tired you you are, you'll be able to think and you'll be able to exercise. So it's a labor of love. Not, not very. It's not helping the pocketbook very much. But I'm. I'm spiritually cleansed by it. How's.

[Steve Austin]

That? It's obvious that you still love the business. You still teach, you still caring. I mean, most of your tweets are about wrestling. You love the business. When did you start paying attention to the business? Did you watch as a.

[Rip Rogers]

Kid? Oh my God. When I was five years old, my grandpa taught me to see Dick Bruiser vs Cowboy Bob Ellis at the high school where I grew up at, in, in Seymour, Indiana. Then I was a member. And I got all the magazines. They used to have a whole shitload of magazines. About seven or eight of them would come out once a month. Hell, I was a member of the handsome Jimmy Valiant fan club. And I'd watch Dick The Bruiser Wrestling. I'd adjust those. The Antenna. I could get the Sheiks Wrestling out of Cincinnati. I could get Louisville Wrestling. Then I could get. On a good Saturday night, I could get Buzz Benson All Star Wrestling out of Paducah, Kentucky. Damn it. Don't get no better than.

[Steve Austin]

That. Oh, shit. Hey, word on the street is you never went to a wrestling school. You learn from the guys in the ring, on the road, listening to cars. What age did you make your.

[Rip Rogers]

Debut? I was 22. I was teaching school and I was a football coach. But all I wanted to do was get in the wrestling business. Now I'm going, how in the hell do I get in the wrestling business? I mean, it was so. It was closed. It was kayfabe. They k paid me down at the matches at Indianapolis. I went and saw the commissioner. He was trying to help me out with Dick the Bruiser. Of course, he was pushing Bruiser so that automatically Bruiser hated me because you didn't tell Dick to Bruiser anything. So a buddy of mine, now this old guy had a. This guy that wasn't even smart. Had a ring at a VFW club we got into a couple times, and I sort of. We sort of broke in, but. Okay. But he didn't prosecute. But this buddy of mine named Steve Cooper, he had him. He got me. He went down to WO A Y in Beckley, West Virginia, and had a TV match. I didn't believe that asshole, so he taped the son of a bitch on the telephone of the audio part. So I got booked the next week. So that. And then this is an hour and a half story. What you're not going to do. So here I am, my first match. I got my. My knee specials, my car and Hildegard stuff, my $52 boxing boots, my. My five zero trunks. I'm dressed to fucking kill. And I just know. And I'm not even smart. And all of a sudden the guy says, oh, you're. You're Bill Good. You go over. I'm going down. Go over what? Right, he says, now you get the pencil, you go home. Holy. You know. So I'm wrestling some guy and he tells me what to do. And I said, you grabbed my arm. You. You know. So it hits me. Boom. I'm over. I didn't even hurt. That's a bitch. Ain't got a punch at all. Then he hits me again. Oh, right near son of a fail. I said, sell what you know. But anyway, I made it through that one. And I'm watching Him before the max he's got. He's cutting a goddamn blues Aid up.

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Rip Rogers]

Yeah. So I'm sitting there, holy shit, this motherfucker is gonna fucking carve me up. I'm scared shitless. So anyway, so you can imagine what I went through. So. But from there, I got to go to Sheep's TV, Nick Goulas's TV, Bob Goggles TV in Kansas City, St. Joe, and in the Chase Hotel there. And then a couple weeks later after that, I went dead to WW WF TV at the old Philly Arena. So, shit, I was on fire.

[Steve Austin]

Baby. Man, tell me a few stories about Dick the Bruiser. Because I've only heard about the man, and he was a little bit before me. And I didn't get that reason of tv because I grew up in South Texas. But I have a picture on your Twitter account of him back when wrestlers used to look tough and Dick the Bruiser looked tough. I know he's a big draw. What was it about Dick the Bruiser that drew.

[Rip Rogers]

Money? That son of a bitch. Well, it's like he said, you don't cover anybody. Let's finish. Nobody kicks out on the Bruiser, right? Unless it's a Texas death match. And he dropped nine falls in nine minutes. Adjusting his tights the whole time. You're covering him, right? All but, but he was. He was just a physical freak. He could walk on his hands and shit. And he was. Hell, he was probably legit 5 11, probably weighing up to 275 at one time, you know, played in the NFL and he got kicked out of three colleges. And he was. Let's just. He was mischievous, let's put it that.

[Steve Austin]

Way. Well, how do.

You. Mischievous in what.

[Rip Rogers]

Way? This is sort of a PG show, isn't.

[Steve Austin]

It? No, this is unleashed. You can say whatever you want to.

[Rip Rogers]

Say. Oh, it's unleashed. So when they. He went to court for something and they said he was accused of having performing fellatio or fellatio being performed on him or whatever. And he said, I don't know, Judge. I just know the bitch was giving me a blow job. So that's DB Dick Bruiser, baby. So he would be driving down the highway and his fucking big ass Lincoln or whatever I just knew was some expensive car. And I'm driving in my fucking Pinto. All of a sudden the lights are off and he's tapping me. Boom. From behind. I'm scared. What the fuck is it, right? And there he was. That was D.B. dick Bruiser, baby. But he had a He had Indianapolis and then he was partners with Ganya in Chicago, see, so there's that big payday. Then he was a big ass card in. In St. Louis for I don't know how many years. And then Flair said he knew he had it made when he sold out the Checker Dome with. With Dick the Bruiser. Bruiser wasn't going to sell. He might register and that's the way it was. But he was a. He was a hell of a draw. And he got banned from Madison Square Garden for life and 57 for having a riot. He got banned in Saint. In Cincinnati for throwing some woman that wasn't a plant in a wheelchair. He threw her out of the fucking wheelchair. And his mother was, I think the head of the Democratic Convention or the Democrats in Indiana. So let's just say he got away with a lot of shit. Which. Which it was me. And then he ran Barnett out of town and he took over Barnett, went off to Australia and Bruiser and Snyder took over Indianapolis. And then he also took over Louisville and Evansville. But he was too lazy to promote him so he rented them out to Jerry Jarrett. So Jared was kicking back 10%. So Bridger was sitting back getting paid, doing nothing. That went on for a while with Jared. Finally said, no, that ain't happening no more because. But that was that. And you worked Jared's territory. So years ago, Louisville was on fire. Evansville was always a good club. But I'm rambling. Okay.

[Steve Austin]

Sorry. Hey, so what was. What was Dick's basic repertoire in the ring? Just a lot of offense and.

[Rip Rogers]

Registering. Hey, he was stone cold before. Stone cold was interesting. He was. He was an aggressive look. Like a goddamn human bowling ball. He was so round, you know, I mean, then he'd take those teeth out and he'd register and he'd spit and he'd hit whenever. He was the only guy. Whenever he hit Heenan, he bled. Nobody else ever touched Heenan but the Bruiser, whenever he hit blue, hit Heenan that some bitch was bleeding. And what a goddamn worker was. Heenan was. When he was young. I mean, when he got to wwe, he was. He was old, you know, for. For a performer. But when he was young, that son of a bitch could slip, he could flop like a fish. He used that blizzade. He was bloody, had blunt that ice white hair and. And that was the good rib. Bobby the brain had a 9th grade education, so God damn, he was good. He was just. Oh, man, I remember he went to Atlanta and he was off TV and He come home in the Apples after like three years just to see his mother. He just hung out the matches. He stepped his head out of the dressing room. All of a sudden, the whole fucking building just started. Boo. And screaming and yelling shit. He just shook his head, smiled, went back and dressed. Once you're over, you're over. Steve Austin.

[Steve Austin]

Unleashed. Hey, let's talk about your Twitter account a little bit at hustler2754. I just pulled off some of the tweets that you've been sending out. You want to go through some of those and expand upon.

[Rip Rogers]

Them? Sure. What happens, Steve? I'm usually on the bike at the gym for an hour, so I got an hour to kill, right? So I do that or I'm on third shift where I'm working and I got a case. A better. Supposed to be working, but I'll be hitting, hitting some tweets on that.

[Steve Austin]

Too. Before we get to Twitter, tell me about these damn workouts. You. The other day you told me you said you worked out three times in one.

Day. What the fuck you.

[Rip Rogers]

Doing? Yeah, well, it's pretty simple because you just push yourself to the max, okay? It's like I run in the fucking gym and I got 30 minutes, okay? And then here's this son of a bitch, he's on my goddamn cable thing. So I was just going to do a hundred reps, 100 reps, but right bicep, hundred reps, left bicep, hundred reps, triceps, push down, 100 shrugs in a row, hundred front raises in a row, hundred side raises, okay? Then you go in 100 leg extensions, hundred leg curls, hundred presses, hundred lat pulls, 100 butterfly things for your chest, and 100 machine presses. That takes about 30 minutes under perfect conditions. And you're always pushing yourself, but you just. You walk out of there in 30 minutes just exploding. If you can explode at 63 years old with no testosterone and just feeling great, there ain't nothing then nothing better than working out. Shit, shower, shaver, and you're ready to kick ass and do whatever your real job.

[Steve Austin]

Is. All right, we're going to come back to this in a little bit. When you got to your bodybuilding, some of the contests that you enter, we'll get into that. But let's go through some of these tweets. Check this one out. You said the object of wrestling is to win the match, not get all your shit in like a mark. You.

[Rip Rogers]

Winning?

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. Make your foes shine because you're.

[Rip Rogers]

Winning. Well, when I Get finished. As I said. Look, you stupid son of a bitch, book backwards. I'm winning. I'm winning. So I'm gonna make you look like the greatest son of a bitch and wrestler in the fucking world. Because I'm gonna beat you decisively, so I want to beat somebody. And now if the roles were reversed, if you're going to win, if you're going to beat me, and decisively I'm gonna beat the shit out of you. Because I'm gonna be King Kong and you're gonna beat King Kong decisively. So I know what you can do. But we don't need all them stupid false finishes that mean nothing anyway just to get your fucking shit in and it ain't gonna goddamn happen. I hate that shit. Because the false finishes should be, they should be safe for the upper echelon matches. The first so many matches you should never have an object touch the fucking referee. Stay in the goddamn ring. We're painting the boring thing of basics. We want basics. So if the first match is a sunset flip in the main event, they can use that as a false finish. At the second match, if the finish is a goddamn o' Connor roll up, we can use that as a false finish. So we can take all these finishes we use underneath and we can use them as false finishes in the semi main event and the main event. And then nobody ever goes outside until the last goddamn match. We're telling a story, we're painting a picture. This ain't for you. This is a team effort. It's like in baseball. The guy is supposed to get on the second guy, bunch him over the second, and the third and fourth hitter is supposed to, to drive that some fitch in. And that's. And that's the way it is. So this is a team effort. Everybody with no ego does what's who's told. Does what the best you can do to get this product over so we all have a job, so we can run more towns and make more goddamn.

[Steve Austin]

Money. If you work in a card first match, stay in the ring, whatever they tell you to do. 8 to 10, 10 to 12, just go out there, get, get the match, get the people off their ass, have a good match, but have a good back and forth match, whatever it is, finish and then get out. Let the next guys come in there. They don't need to be going outside the damn ring, fighting, brawling, using the chairs, using the stairs, all the cliche stuff. They need to keep their ass in the ring. So you can build to the main event. So Talking about all the false finishes, especially in the last few pay per views I've seen. You know, everybody's using everything but the kitchen sink. The DDT has been so. Jesus Christ, the ddt. And it's sad that there's a poison named DDT because of the finish. When Jake the Snake Roberts used that motherfucker, I mean, holy smokes, it was lights out. And now it's basically used as a real weak or lame false finish or even a transition into something. But it's been bashed, dies so damn bad there's no use in even hitting it because everybody knows it's not going to work. Whether it's done in the middle of the ring or off the second rope into the.

[Rip Rogers]

Ring. Well, you're right, but that's on the office and it's their money if I'm the boss. Nobody does the stunner except you. Nobody does the DDT except Jake. Everybody's got their own shit and you stay away from it. If somebody accidentally does it then the announcer buries them saying, well he don't do it as good as Jake. So all you're going to do is get the guy that his signature move. You're just going to put them over. Unless we would bring in a stunner versus let's, we worked a six month program word stunner versus stunner, something like that, you know, I mean but everybody's got their own niche. And like when you have the first match, I said okay, you just watch the first match. The second match, whatever they did, don't do it. The third match, you've seen two matches. Whatever they did, don't do it. The fourth match you've seen all them together. Whatever they did, don't do it. If you have a problem with that, then you have no business being a professional wrestler. You're supposed to be fucking good. You're supposed to be pro. You're supposed to be the cream of the crop. You're supposed, this is supposed to be your goddamn dream and you should have dissected this with no ego. Every kind of wrestling psychology there fucking is. I can fucking wound up on this shit.

[Steve Austin]

Sorry. You know, there's a lot of, a lot of guys back in the when we'd be working whether it's USWA or World Championship Wrestling or even WWF way back in the day they'd be fourth, fifth, sixth on the card and wouldn't watch matches. And you know, sometimes rip, you roll up and just everybody's working arm all of a sudden the main Event gets out there. They didn't pay attention to what was going on in the first seven, eight matches. And all of a sudden they're working arm and the crowd's done seeing it, you know, probably five times. And all of a sudden they're doing the same shit. So if you haven't been watching the card, okay, arm, leg, back, neck, you got to pick something different, because every now and then, it's one of the boys will just get on a. Just. Just by happenstance, everybody works arm, everybody works the leg, and then everybody's doing that the whole night. So the main event gets out there and shit, guess what? They've already seen this set six.

[Rip Rogers]

Times. Well, you're right on all them. But I got arm, leg, neck, stomach, back, or brawl, baby. So everybody what. When I. I would tell everybody, you know, if I'm. If I'm writing them down and I'm booking, I said, work this body part. Use this is your anchor. Get your heat on this body part. So everything was different. And then that way, nobody stepping on any toes. Nobody. I remember one night, Rick the Rude come in and start getting mad at me because I used the headlock. I said, well, goddamn, Rick, I didn't know you had the goddamn patent on that. Son of a bitch. Don't you know more than a headlock? Please. Jesus.

[Steve Austin]

Christ. I was going to ask you about Rick. Root in the headlock spot and a couple questions. I'm glad you went there. I was on a hunting lease in South Georgia with Rick Rude and Paul Orndorff. And goddamn, we had a blast. We didn't kill any deer. We just. We had fun. Three guys in a cabin in the middle of nowhere was badass. And those two, especially Rick Rood, were real characters. What was your relationship with that guy? The thing I appreciated about Rick was, hey, he was right up front. He would tell you right to your face what was on his mind. He wouldn't mince words. He wouldn't stab you in the back. He was a man's man. You can't say that about a lot of guys in the business. What were your thoughts on.

[Rip Rogers]

Rick? Well, when I first met him, I was working for Bill Watts, and Watts paid me well to teach guys, like. So I was working underneath, and I had black hair. He said, you try and get over, I'm firing you. I said, don't worry, I can be as boring as the rest of. So Rick came in. I guess he had hepatitis or something. And hell, he must have weighed about 190 lbs. Or something. And this was. He was really looking because he was a. He was a tall.

[Steve Austin]

Guy.

[Rip Rogers]

Yeah. And then he was like, skinny as a rail. His first match back, he was just really, you know, nervous, and the skills wasn't there and everything, but. And then. But he sure picked up the game after he got out there. And I think we talked about the story with it coming out of the base front center, and the goddamn. The Lincoln was gone from info. He come in from Memphis to Tampa, and then all of a sudden didn't make. He didn't make the payment. He come out after the show, and that stuff. Bitch was gone. Oh, man. I remember working with Paul down there for Cornet and Smoky Mountain. So I'm working and hell, I went. Used to go down the matches when Paul was starting down there with Jarrett and how he was like a goddamn icon in Tampa. From Tampa, football and shit and just a fucking stud. And I just fucking laughed. We got in the ring, didn't prearrange nothing. And it was just. All them guys from Tampa were just so fucking great. If you. If you got trained in Tampa, you. You got that. You know what I mean? He was so fucking good. So goddamn light. We had so much fucking fun. And it never touched in the ring before. It was just. It was just so much fun. And you sit there and shake your head when you get two guys in there that have paid their fucking dues, had all your fucking. How many thousands of matches. You can have so much fun and not break a goddamn sweat. And the business is just so much fun. Oh.

[Steve Austin]

Shit. You're working the people. I feel like today almost the people are working the boys. But let me digress. Let's get into this next tweet you sent. He said, baby faces, Let the heel be a heel to make the match easier. Faces never cheat first or throw the first strike. Heels don't be a cool heel. Talk about the first. Well, let the heel be a heel to make the match easier. And faces never cheat first or throw the first.

[Rip Rogers]

Punch. Okay. It's like, let me get my entrance in. Let me be cocky or what I'm doing. You're the good guy. Let me be. Let them people hate me as much as they can. Don't threaten to punch me. I'll threaten to punch you. Then you ball your fist up, and I'll back away and bitch about that. So let me be the bad guy. You be the good guy. I'm a heel, but I'm not going to be a cool heel. I don't Want cheers If I want cheers, be a goddamn baby faces. Get the hot women, the food, the better payoffs and sell the goddamn gimmicks. But no, I want to be a heel because I love being a.

[Steve Austin]

Heel. When do you think the first cool heel. Who do you think the first cool heel was? Or when did that trend start to happen? Happen in your.

[Rip Rogers]

Estimation? I don't know because I don't watch tv, wrestling, anything I'll do, I'll see something on my phone or something. But I know guys, I understand the wrestling heel that starts out patting himself on the back and then the baby face catches up. Then he starts surpassing. Then he gets rugged with him. I understand all that, right? But the business has changed. It's like when they had the shield going, walking through the crowd. Then motherfuckers would have beat me half the fucking death and kicked you and thrown shit at you and tried to hit you with a chair and shit if you'd have walked through that fucking crowd like that. Just exposing the business and. And when the biggest company in the world exposes the business, what are you supposed to do? Say oh no, they're lying when they show you how they do it and they're showing how Harry Houdini does his tricks and shit. And then you just got to go with it because that's just the way it is, you know, so. But you still try and have some psychology with it. But now I'm talking rambling against.

[Steve Austin]

Each. Well, you brought up a WWE, so there's my next tweet. WWE. Well, it's your next tweet. WWE is VKM's company. It's his. So he will push who he wants and do as he wants, just as you would do if you were in his shoes. Reality. That's what you.

[Rip Rogers]

Tweeted? Yeah, that's.

[Steve Austin]

His. Is that a response to all the people? Is that in response to all the IWC talking about they want so and so pushed or you're pushing so and so too.

[Rip Rogers]

Hard? Yeah, that's it exactly. That's it exactly. Just sit back and enjoy the product. If you don't like it, don't watch it. Then if he decides to change something, he will. But you don't tell him what to do. You wouldn't be taught. Say fuck you, you goddamn mar. Don't fuck yourself. This is my company. I got long range plans, which I'm not sharing with you. It's my.

[Steve Austin]

Company. But people need to watch the. If you want to watch wrestling or watch wwe, whether it's Raw Smackdown. Whatever show you're watching, watch it for the sake of what's going on the screen. Don't concern yourself with the riding aspect of it. Watch the product.

[Rip Rogers]

Right? That's like everybody that watches NFL football, they think they're smarter than the coach, you know, because they watch. They're in fantasy football and they watch NFL every week. So hell, they know what's going on more than the coach does. You know, he's only around those guys in film 20 hours a day. So what the hell does he know when the fans know more than he does? And wrestling the same way, you know. So the thing about it, it used to be electricity in the air. It was like a UFC atmosphere. It was a contest you could. It was like a goddamn. Since I'm from Indiana, iu, Purdue, Gay. Where the depends where it was at, where you had who's ever was the baby faces and who was heels. But they loved the baby face and they hate the heels. Now you go to it. Now you go to an event, it's sort of like the Ice Capade or sort of like the Harlem Globetrotters. Hahaha. Or we can get on TV if we do these yells and shit and let's steal the show and we can be over and I'm districtly old school. I'm too old to change. I know what I like. I know it would still work because people are still basically the same. So that's.

[Steve Austin]

That. All right. You said your strikes are supposed to look vicious without hurting your opponent. Not look phony and knock the shit out of them. Learn your craft, practice. I understand what you're saying there. Can you give me an instance of somebody whose shit didn't look great but hurt the fuck out of you and vice.

[Rip Rogers]

Versa? I don't want to mention any name. I understand that some guys looking like it knocks your dick off and they don't fucking touch you. Lanny Papo could punch you right in the jaw, right in the mouth, right in the nose with that big right hand and. And not fucking touch. You'd look like it knocked your fucking head off. I can't help that they didn't if he didn't get the push or whatever. But as far as the video, that fucking punch that some bitch practiced that son of a bitch on me for I don't know how long before he got that thing down. And it is. It's just a work of art. And then you have some. There's nothing worse than a punch that looks phony and knocks your dick off. Right, Just like I would call it like the Bulldog Brown kick, you know. Rest in peace, Bulldog.

[Steve Austin]

Baby, you.

Know. Another guy like Lanny Poffo was Ricky Morton of the Rock and Roll Express. They're fixing to go into the hall of Fame for wwe. I don't know if you heard that or not. That goddamn working with Ricky Morton was a dream. Just because, oh, there's a tweet about it later on. Because I think you love working with Ricky too. Because here was another guy, he goes, ricky's not worried about getting his shit in because he's going over. But that was the guy. All his shit looked pro style snugged up. You couldn't feel a thing. All his punches were dead on and they looked amazing. He was just a fantastic worker, fantastic seller, Great fire, great mean streak. He had it all. He was.

[Rip Rogers]

Amazing. He got it. What can you say? He got it. Most guys don't get it, but he got it. Of course he was, he was a wrestlers kid. He was around the business his whole life. But then again, some guys still don't get it. So I don't know. But he was just really easy to work with. We'd work and we just, just call in the ring, he just. We just fucking laugh the whole time. It was just so much fun. We knew we could give the people a guarantee. Ladies and gentlemen, there'll be no violence in this match. We guarantee.

[Steve Austin]

It. Hey.

Rick. Hey.

Rip. When was the first time you realized you could actually have fun inside the squared circle? Because as I was coming through the business in USWA and then in World Championship Wrestling in Atlanta, man, I think it was about four or five years in because, you know, I was so caught up in the grind of learning the mechanics, just learning one on one psychology, you know, you're serious because you don't know that you can actually have fun. And all of a sudden I'm out there with Jesus Christ. It was Brian Armstrong, Road Dog. And we were out there in center stage having a TV match and there was some shit going on. And I'm telling him, hey man, look over here. There was this hot girl in the crowd and he goes, where? I repositioned myself right there he goes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So we went over, fought outside the ring, over to the guardrail, I dropped him on the guardrail. But after I realized I could have fun out there, it really took the pressure off of me. And this was still in the days where we're calling every single thing in the ring and basically finish everything. When was it for you that you realized you could have that fun, because that really lifted a load off my mind, the pressure and just.

[Rip Rogers]

Performance. Well, when I started, I was just so fucking rotten. And I tell everybody every mistake in the business I already made. So don't feel bad. You're all better than me when I started. So when I turned heel and I teamed up with Randy Savage in Nashville, I started getting it. And then after that, it wasn't any problem understanding anymore. I was. I was a whole. The world's horriblest baby face. But as a fucking heel, I understood it pretty well. For my experience, of course, I was surrounded to hell. I had the oppos, I had Ronnie Garvin, I had Boris Malenko, I had Randy Orton's dad, I had Bob Root. I had all these guys that were great pros, and all I had to do is shut the fuck up and watch them and listen to them. So I was in, like, in hog heaven. I knew I was just shits compared to these great fucking wrestlers. I just wanted to be hopefully as good as them maybe 10 years from. From now, because this is like being a doctor. This shit is so fucking hard. It's like, oh, the moves are irrelevant. I mean, anybody can go on a diet. Anybody can work out. Anybody can look good. Anybody can do the moves. But to please the place is shit. Where you need to. To learn the fucking facials and learn all the fucking. The movements, the body language. When, how, when, who, when, where, what? Why. Why are you doing this? At what speed? To learn all this shit takes so much failure before you pull that little light bulb goes off in your head and you finally start to understand that shit, you'll be going back. You'd be smiling. I finally understand what the hell they're talking about now. Holy moly, was that fucking.

[Steve Austin]

Fun. You know.

What? Sometimes you get on that streak rip, and then all of a sudden, right when you think you got it, you just swell of confidence. You go out there and you shit the bed. You damn near kill.

Italian. Like, what the.

Fuck? I thought I was picking this.

[Rip Rogers]

Up. Oh, yeah, yeah, that happens. What happens a lot of times is we get pigeonholed into thinking every audience is different, right? And you have to fucking be able to read that audience. They said, no, they don't want comedy. They want a wrestling match. They want some fucking violence. You know? I mean, so you got to be able to read that some bitch. I got to be able to take that baby face and pull the best of what he can do. And if he can do Five things. We're going to do that. Five things. And he's. And we ain't going to shoot for an A, but we're going to shoot for C plus. I'm gonna make these fuckers believe this. Some bitches is competitive and that's all we want. And we do whatever, finish the office.

[Steve Austin]

Once. You know, it's funny how some of, some of the crowds are, you know, when you go to whatever loop you're on, whatever territory you're in and first match goes out there and they come back, well, most everybody's watching, but if they're not. Hey man, how's the crowd? Oh, man, they're popping on everything. Basic shit. I mean, so, I mean like depending on where you are or how long it's been since you've been there, I mean, sometimes it's the gaga that works. And that's what I'm talking about. Test of strength, the.

[Adam Carolla]

Ye.

[Steve Austin]

Boo. I mean, I'm talking about bullshit stuff. Some people, I mean, you know, they want, they want the main event shit. Or they're ready for just wrestling in general. But you know, just by that, listen, that first match, go out there. Oh, fuck. Or, or it could be the opposite. These motherfuckers are dead. I don't even know why they bought a ticket, but you got to read that.

[Rip Rogers]

Crowd. Like he said, what I tell everybody, I said the first spot they haven't seen anything is a tackle and sell the son of a bitch. What happens? Oh, tackle, drop down, leak, frog, three arm drags, drop kick, go the floor. Nobody. They don't take none of it in Cellify. I remember me and Dick Murdoch had the whole. Every spot was attacked and every tackle knocked me the floor and he just fucking laughed. And I call, I said, I told him, shut the fucking jabroni. You're the goddamn baby face on the heel. I'm leading this son, bitch. He's laughing. And then he was supposed to brain buster me and he wouldn't. He said, no, I ain't brain bustering you. Fuck you. We did the old. The greatest finisher of all time, the roll.

[Steve Austin]

Ups. Hey, how was Dickie Murdoch to work with? Because, man, I watched, you know that guy? Of course I got a chance to meet him and talk to him a little bit. But this is when I was just, hell, I don't even know if I was stunning Steve yet. Everybody knew that guy could work his ass off. And a lot of people considered him, you know, world champion.

[Rip Rogers]

Material. I thought he was world championship material. But then again, you Got to remember, where did he break in at Amarillo? Right here we got all those. From Brody to Hanson to tito Santana to DiBiase. All those guys, right? Manny for all the. All those guys, everything.

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Rip Rogers]

Right? And here. And here he is. He could work like a. He was a huge man and he could work like a small guy. And then during these match, when he's selling, all of a sudden he'd have to throw some Three Stooges comedy shit in there, and that would just turn them fucking Eddie Graham's and the goddamn Sam must make him go crazy and shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, but he was so good. But I work with him in St. Louis TV at the Chase when I was double fucking rotten. And I said. I said, murdoch, you fucking cocksucker, you about broke my fucking jaw. And goddamn the chase. And I didn't tell him how rotten I was. He goes, well, hell, I remember that. You moved. Holy.

[Steve Austin]

Shit. Hey, Rip, tell me about this tweet. Don't use baby all in the ring, period. You're asking for trouble. Either you or your opponent can slip and get hurt. Be safe at all times. Please tell me about baby oil. Because I hated it when motherfuckers wore that.

[Rip Rogers]

Stuff. I wouldn't if guys had baby oil. I make him go out. I know, but I tell them. But don't put no that shit on. I ain't gonna be there. Fuck you. I'm not gonna get hurt. You're not gonna get hurt. Slip off the fucking rope. I go to fucking Slam, you slip off. Something's going to be screwed up because you're too goddamn lazy to go on a goddamn diet. Do your fucking canon and shaving and shit. Just fucking do it. I said, you're not training for the Olympia anyway. You're the baby face. It doesn't matter. But no fucking baby oil. Just a little, because you're gonna fucking sweat out there. I don't even like the water because. Because you're gonna start sweating soon anyway. But baby all, I've seen too many guys get goddamn hurt with that shit. And it's just. It's just something. It's just something we don't need. Because if I get hurt or you get hurt, hell, in the territory days, they'd float you a day or two, then they'd just fire your ass because you couldn't perform. The show must go on, you.

[Steve Austin]

Know? And I'll tell you the thing about that baby oil or the hot stuff, the vasodilator you used to bodybuild you know about that hot stuff. The guys would spray it on and make their veins come on and come out. And that was just. It was like. It was like baby oil on steroids. So. And it made your eyes burn. If you got in your eyes, and you're working with these. These guys, so inevitably it's going to get in your eyes. But those ropes are taped up with tape. And to the listeners out there, as you well know, Rip, if those.

Ropes get all that oil on them.

If you're going over the top rope with a clothesline or someone shooting you over the top, you're trying to grab that top rope to protect your livelihood. Take a safe bump. You know, those things get all. Alled up, mister, Watch out. Because you might not have a chance to grab shit because you can't hang on to it because you got all that. That baby all on it. So you can't grab the ropes. Or sometimes if you go in, if the ropes are so slippery, one might slip over your damn shoulder. You hit your neck on that cable or you go to send the guy in. A lot of guys, instead of wearing black athletic tape, would use black electrical tape. Well, you put baby oil on top of black electrical tape, that's on a baby old wrist, you send a guy in, try to reverse it, and you slip, you lose grip, you blow the high spot. You look like a couple of J. Brones. It's just a.

[Rip Rogers]

Shit. Yeah. And once you do it, you don't get no do overs. So it's a whole lot easier just not to use the goddamn baby.

[Steve Austin]

Oil. Because I was so damn ashy and white, I would pour water. You weren't a water guy. I would do the water. Didn't do the baby oil. Just so I wouldn't look so goddamn ash. Ashy. But let me ask you about this tweet here. This talks about some of the equipment. Always tuck the laces of your boots in. I saw a guy blinded from a boot lace, hitting him in the eye on an inzagiri kick. What the fuck happened, Rip? I never heard nothing like that. Now when I broke in, they told me, hey, tuck your laces. I didn't know why, but I tucked them in because it was a cleaner look. I never didn't know about that safety.

Factor. So what.

[Rip Rogers]

Happened? Well, just. Just what happened right there? You know, when I got in, Randy Savage, he showed me how to do the parachute cord and to burn the ends, right? But some of the old guy. Or later on, they would have the long shoelaces Out. They might be out like 7 or 8 inches. So them things are flipping around and shit, right? And that goddamn Zarf hit the guy right in the eye, you know, I mean. Yep. So. And it was. It was probably a one in a million thing, but that's a one in a million thing that I don't ever want to see happen to me or anybody else. So just tuck your goddamn things in. That's like guys that practicing in shirts and they kick him in the stomach and their foot gets. I had three guys tear their knee up because their foot got caught in somebody's T shirt because the T shirt was not tucked in. So you learn by failure. You see all this shit of how to try to keep another accident from fucking.

[Steve Austin]

Happening. Here's a little nuance in a match. Let's talk about, you know, maybe it's. Again, towards the end of a match, you said after a double knockout, please have the heel get up first. You want to make the face the underdog as much as.

[Rip Rogers]

Possible. Yeah. So, I mean, it's so simple. As long as the heel is always up first, the baby face gets more sympathy. And it's so simple that we've tried to change shit. Now you can say, oh, yeah, the baby face could get up first and he could go to slam him and the. But he's in the hill, could kick his legs and his leg go back out. But why do that? Because he went down. Then he got strong getting up first. Now he's back down again. Just stay underneath. You're fighting from underneath because, hey, you're going to win anyway. So just shut the fuck up and do as you're told. Don't think you're a stupid baby.

[Steve Austin]

Face. Would you have to tell a.

[Rip Rogers]

Guy that when I tell a guy that. Jesus Christ, that's my fucking problem my whole goddamn.

[Steve Austin]

Life. Whether you're building a house, a story, a game plan, or a wrestling match, it all starts with a solid base or foundation. That's one of the things you really harp on and preach is basic, basic, basic fundamentals. You're not in all the fancy moves and shit. You're all about wrestling and basics. To be able to go that 30 minutes, to be able to. To go that hour, to be able to tell that story and to build that solid foundation with which then you can get to all the bells and whistles.

[Rip Rogers]

With. Well, it's just like basketball. A guy had in class, he was telling me about Kobe Bryant, how he was there four hours early doing nothing but what he needed to do. He said he had to make 800 jumpers every day. You know, I mean, because to be the best, nothing but basics. So it's muscle memory. No matter how tired you are, you still got that touch, you still got your form. And how in the world, in any sport can you play a game and not practice? You might practice in that NFL, you're on that fucking shit squad, the practice squad, and you might not never get in a game and you're practicing every fucking play just for that one time when you can get in there and it's nothing but basics, basics, basics, basics. But since we know wrestling is not real, they don't think they need to do the basics. They want to do all their cool shit to get their three. There's got to be nine flies to the floor every in each match. And there's got to be how many? 360. But let's fool the fans so we can kick out all of them. So that way we can be tough. Let's kill every. Let's kill every move there is. Holy shit. Don't give me one. Don't get me going on that.

[Steve Austin]

One. I'll give you something else to go on. If you wear kick pads, if you wear kick pads in your match, you ever think the fans know you're trying to protect your opponent where you're supposed to be trying to kill.

[Rip Rogers]

Them? That's pretty simple, isn't.

[Steve Austin]

It? You got an axe to grind about these kick pads on the.

[Rip Rogers]

Shin. Yeah. Huh. That's like. It's just like Randy Orton's dad, he would give you a knee drop, then he would pull that knee pad down. Now all of a sudden he's got bone on bone, doesn't he? Then you would double sell that son of a bitch and maybe get a little fucking gap and roll the fucking floor and everything. But here we have fucking kick pads. No, I'm wearing these pads so I don't hurt you. Well, how fucked up is that? When we're supposed to give the illusion at least we're trying to beat somebody's ass. Now what hurts more, a guy's boxer with 16 ounce gloves or guys fucking bare fucking knuckles? The same fucking shit. And this is how stupid we are. And the promoters allow that fucking shit. I'm just fucking old. I guess there's too much reality in that shit. I don't.

[Steve Austin]

Know. But that's one that I hadn't even thought of until you brought it up. I was like, that's an interesting one. I never looked at it that way. And I should have. So that's one that missed me. But I Completely makes sense to.

[Rip Rogers]

Me. But you didn't wear kick pads.

[Steve Austin]

Right? No, no, no, dude. And there's. For a while when I was a dumb motherfucker in WCW thinking I wore my knee pads just like everybody else did. And then I said, man, I'm going real old school. I'm just going to shit can these things and just not wear them. I'm wearing my short trunks and my boots. That's it. And so I did that for a couple years. And people always ask me why. And to this day I can't tell you why. It was just something I decided to do. But looking back, probably should have kept the knee pads.

[Rip Rogers]

On. Well, I had knee pads for years. You know how they lose the lacticity or.

[Steve Austin]

Whatever.

[Rip Rogers]

Yeah. And I was so fucking cheap, I wasn't gonna buy no new ones. Right then some bitches slide down my ankles all time. So Regal gave me them red ones that he sewed up for me. They weren't real knee pads, but they were just.

[Steve Austin]

Little. Like those neoprene.

[Rip Rogers]

Sleeves. Yes. So all of a sudden I wore them. Some.

[Steve Austin]

Bitches. You brought up, you brought up a common friend of ours, a mutual friend of ours, and Steve Riegel, Lord William Regal, whatever you want to call him, I just call him Steve. Where and when did you meet him? Because my first memory of Steve Riegel when he came over from England World Championship Wrestling, he worked with somebody. I don't know, he was on before I was or right after I was. It doesn't matter. And I was just kind of a mid card guy at the time. And he went out there and I watched his match and I. But God damn, he was out there selling his ass off. And when he made a comeback, he had great fire. And immediately I went up to him and I said, hey man, I said, my name is Steve Austin. And he said, hey, Steve Riegel. And I said, hey man, I just want to tell you, man, I love your work. I said that was awesome. And he's very humble. Thanks. And so me and him had become real close friends over the years, and to this day we're still friends. And he was a hell of a goddamn.

Worker. So how was it that you.

And him befriended each other? Because he always says great things about.

[Rip Rogers]

You. Well, we were in. I went in to work for Big Fat Auto, right. Otto in autobio. And he was there. Now he got bumped a year before for something, but he was there. Fit was there. Dave Taylor Was there.

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Rip Rogers]

Yep. So me and, me and the Lord, we room together and one of the. In the caravan in Hanover and, and Bremen. And then we stayed in the fucking. In the hostels in Vienna and, and Groats. And we were in, we were in Grox. I said, I said, hey, you want to go wcw? He said, what I see. Want to go wcw? I'll get you in. He says, wait, what are you going to do? I said, well, I'm going to write a letter for you. Like I'm you, but you. But I know what Bill Watts wants. So he wrote him a letter and then within a matter of days his 8. When he talked to Chrissy, she said that I hear from Bill Watts. And so he offered him a job, but he wouldn't go because he was booked. So what liked him even more because he was going to stay the whole season there, right? So that was. So. That was cool. That was.

[Steve Austin]

Fun. I've heard a lot of stories about the caravans over there in Germany. Were y' all working straight time or y' all working five minute rounds like I used to watch on World of.

[Rip Rogers]

Sport? No, it was, it was the rounds. It was the.

[Steve Austin]

Rounds. How did you like that? That sounds really tough to me to work five minute.

[Rip Rogers]

Rounds. That's the. Steve, that's the easiest thing in the world. Holy shit. Just think, let's say we're going five rounds, right? And we can, we can tell a different story every round. Can't wait. You could hurt your knee. We could work on a knee. Or you can work any. You can change everything, right? And you can have the heel barely holding on or the baby face holding on for the round, you know what I mean? And it's just so much fun. And I never got to do that before. And then I love that I started loving that style. And then they had the speaker where they find the guys, right? So Finley was so good he'd have a championship match and that some bitch make about 800 bucks. They had the evil referee finding the good guy and the marks would come out and pay the fucking fine. Then they would split it with like fit against the baby face and in the speaker, the guy who announced and the referee, they were all in on it. So they all cut that money up, right? And you could make a fussing. Got a K fab on the thing. What the fuck.

[Steve Austin]

Right? Hey, but you, when you mentioned, when you mentioned Dave Taylor, Steve Riegel and Fit Finley, man, all three of those guys can work their ass off, but Fit Finley might Be one of the best workers I've ever.

[Rip Rogers]

Seen. I come back and I said, oli Anderson. I said, oli, there's this guy named Fit Finley. I said, it's a different style and it's not television oriented. I think this motherfucker is the best heel I've ever seen. And all, you know, Oli goes, well, how big is he? I said, only I don't know. I didn't even think about how big he was. I just knew that son of a was the man. Yep. And I don't care if he's 5 foot 2 or 7 foot 3, he was the fucking man. And every in every, he took control of everything. So that baby face was always an underdog. And. But when it was it. When it was time to fucking make that fucking comeback and he'd fucking staggered, kindly take that fucking bump. And man, I was just a fucking mark for him. Jesus Christ, he was so fucking.

[Steve Austin]

Good. Well, I was too. And you always talk about mannerisms, and he had the mannerisms. He was just an evil die, diabolical son of a bitch. He'd take as many shortcuts, cheat as much as he could. When he covered, a lot of guys, try to use that cross face. He did it with malice. He looked like he was always trying to inflict pain. He had a mean streak in him and he just had that posture. Everything he did, he intended to hurt you. But he took control of that ring. If there was ever a ring general in a fucking right, a technician, that was a solid 10, it's him. That's how. That's how much I respected his.

[Rip Rogers]

Work. Right. When I went over there, I was going in as a heel, right? And the first night, they were. They were. The numbers were wrong. He says, can you do a baby face, queer gimmick. I said, fuck, I work with Adrian street for saying, hell yeah. So after the first night, I said, oh, no, you do this. I said, what? I said, I'm a fucking heel. Oh, no, this is better. Well, okay, you're the boss, you're paying me. That's what you want. So I became a fucking. The shirt lifter, the book, the dinner masher. So did the queer gimmick. So. So anyway, the first time I worked with fit, he destroyed me. He gave me nothing.

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Rip Rogers]

Yeah. So I'm laying there, so I'm making him carry me out. And I said, I think he gave me too much love. Because you got to remember the English guys, it was a big deal for them to go to Germany, okay? And then and they would bring in Americans. So they would. It would cut their buddies out, you know what I mean? So they pretty much hated us. It's just like when I go up and work for Stu, they get mad because that made a local Canada boy couldn't work. And they'd bring me in there and I would be the heel to. I would take the boys out and have a good time. And then, then I was. Then I was a ringleader. But going in, they, they didn't like the Americans because it was easier for the Americans to go there than for them to try and go to a different.

[Steve Austin]

Country. Man. I'm just guessing, but the caravan lifestyle seemed like a non stop party. Was.

[Rip Rogers]

It? Oh, my God. Well, I'm not going to mention any names, but when, when I went into one guy's caravan and I've seen a lot of guys with two girls, but when he had three, that was over with me. Three of them. He says, no. I was like, oh, no, no. This is before camera phones and shit.

[Steve Austin]

Right?

[Rip Rogers]

Yeah. And I said, oh, man. Or I wish I had a Polaroid, you know, I mean, I said, I said, you are the most. Over summer. He said, no, but I was, no, no, they're all for you. And I'm going to tell everybody what a stud you.

[Steve Austin]

Are. Oh, no.

[Rip Rogers]

No. But goddamn, that was. It's just like this. Thanks, D. We was in Hanover 70 days in a row, wrestling. Then the last night they had the big show. No, that was. They had the big show and they went to the big building and did 10,000 people. They'd bring Snooka in, they'd bring the Road warriors in, they'd bring Eddie Gilbert come in and they would have. It would be like you had. They buy. People would save all year. They get season tickets and like if snooker would come in, it cost an extra four bucks or whatever. Or you'd have a chance or Fit might have a championship match. And they'd bring in Edit. He worked with Eddie Gilbert. And Eddie says, what's he like? I said, oh, you're in for rude awakening love. And he goes, I never see anything like that. I said, he's the human buzz saw. So before, before every, every match or the night Auto will go, remember, no poking in the eyes, no kicking the balls or don't drink before your match. So the first thing Fit would do was poke him in the eyes, kick him in the balls. And he'd be drinking whiskey and something else as Auto talking to him. God, he was just, he was just like the the bad boy of a movie or something. It was just whatever you wasn't supposed to do, he was going to do it. Go to the club at night. And he'd say, tell me when you have to go to the bathroom. I'd say fine, I go to the bathroom. All of a sudden he'd get up and walk towards the bathroom. It was like a parting of the red seas. All the marks would just. They seem coming. They just run away.

[Steve Austin]

From.

[Rip Rogers]

Really. Because I get. He'd always break people's thumbs and stuff. So. Oh wow. And that was. And I'm. I'm. I'm a pattern pacifist. I'm non violent. And then here's this guy. I think he will hell his. His dad was a goddamn. The wrestling coach for wherever country was.

[Steve Austin]

From.

[Rip Rogers]

From.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. Now for.

Shoot. Now how would he break these.

[Rip Rogers]

Thumbs? He just grab it and twist it and you know how. It's a tendon, Right, Right. And these guys, his thumbs would be hanging sideways and shit. And your thumbs never heal up.

[Steve Austin]

Either. That mean streak he had in the ring was his.

[Rip Rogers]

Shoot. Yes. He was just at one time. Now he's not that way anymore. But he was. He was pure evil. But he was. He was funny.

[Steve Austin]

Though. Oh yeah. You know, I don't think he made any malice by it. I think that was his. That was fun to him as fuck to him. I like how that sounds. I mean, yeah, it's kind of malicious, but I don't think he meant it in a bad way. That's just who he.

[Rip Rogers]

Was.

[Steve Austin]

Yeah. Hey, talk to me about this tweet. You only have so many bumps on your bump card. Use them wisely and sell them properly. Thank longevity. It's your body bumps on a bump.

[Rip Rogers]

Card. We all. We all get carried.

[Steve Austin]

Away.

[Rip Rogers]

Yep. And we could all take three arms, a hicc toss and a slam. Or you could take one hit, toss, crawl out of the ring. Half ass crawl. You can take one and act like it. 10. Because we've only got so many goddamn bullets in the gun and then we don't have any more. And our bodies are the same way. So it's best to learn that. You can. You can preach it all you want, but it ain't gonna happen. And I know that, but I feel better preaching it because you know, once you get an injury, like if you hurt your left knee, then your right knee becomes your bad one. You hurt your left shoulder, you compensate in the other one gets so bad so. Or you hurt the left side of your back, then the right Side get gets bad because you're always protecting yourself on these bumps and everything, and then you're pretty much completely messed up. So if you learn to sell your bumps properly, then you don't have to do as many of them. But that's what that was all about. Because guys do. We all do way too much stuff, you know, because we love to perform, we love to take bums, because when you're young, you don't even feel them. And you just love the rest of the.

[Steve Austin]

Business. Yeah, but. And that's like, you know, when you've got, you know, 10 years in the business, that's when you kind of smarten up to it. I mean, certainly maybe some people smart enough faster than I did, but you know, in your mid-30s, like, fuck, people will tell you, hey, slow down, kid. You only got so many bumps in your bump card. You don't understand, hey, fuck.

You. I'm.

Good. Okay? Now I'm 52. Now I see what they were talking about 10 years later. So it's not until 10, 15, 20 years later, you're going to feel this shit. So when guys are telling you that, they're trying to give you a little heads up, first of all, if you're really, really over, you ain't got to do all that shit. What are you doing it for? You're not working the people. You're out working yourself. You're putting yourself in a lot.

Of positions that you ain't even got to be in, and you're.

Over. So they got so many car. You only got so many bumps on your bump card. You got to take that to.

[Rip Rogers]

Heart. Yeah, that's like my mom said, jimmy Valiant, he doesn't do anything. I said, mom, that's why he's over. Everybody else wants to do everything, and he. He just sits there and bob's his fucking head and he's over. So the hardest thing in wrestling is to slow down and. And not to do so much stuff. But we all want to run instead of fucking. We all want to run down and. And fuck the one girl instead of walking down and fucking them. All right? And that's in wrestling the same.

[Steve Austin]

Way. But going off that rip reaction does not mean you're.

Over. All right, everybody, give me the.

Go home cue Summer wrap up his podcast and ride off in the sunset. Before we do, want to thank my guest Rip Rod Rogers for coming.

On the show and dropping a little bit of knowledge. We'll have part two with Rip, I believe, coming up next Thursday. And before I sign off, I want to mention that Rip Rogers has a GoFundMe account. RIP Rogers raw deal. He's trying to get 16 GS up to go buy him a new set of wheels. So if you care to contribute to that, check out Rip Roger's raw [e-mail] Anyway, thank you Rip. It was good talking to you. Hey, part two of Rip Projects next.

Week. More knowledge from the pro wrestling.

Guy who's been around the horn forever and speaks a whole lot of common.

Sense and knows the damn wrestling business in and out. As far as something to watch.

I was looking at some videos of.

Rip Rogers wrestling Lord Steven Regal down there in WCW with Larry Zabisco doing color.

Commentary. But I really enjoyed his talks when he was sitting down with Danny.

Cage over at the Monster Factory just sitting in a chair. I think it was Monster Factory episode 5. But just get on YouTube and type in Rip Rogers at the Monster.

Factory and Danny Cage.

Talks. But then Rip is out there sitting with the.

Guys. He just starts just talking about shit, dropping more knowledge and shooting a.

Breeze. So those were the things that.

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