The Story – Trump’s Ceasefire with Iran: What’s in It and What Next
Podcast: The Story
Host: The Times (Manveen Rana)
Date: April 9, 2026
Guest: Catherine Philp, World Affairs Editor, The Times
Episode Overview
This episode explores the dramatic announcement of a two-week ceasefire between the United States and Iran, unfurled after weeks of escalating military action under President Donald Trump. Host Manveen Rana and guest Catherine Philp analyze how the ceasefire came about, what is included in Iran’s 10-point proposal, and what this turning point means for regional stability, U.S. global standing, oil markets, and alliances worldwide. The episode also questions the durability of the ceasefire and reflects on the broader geopolitical consequences.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Breaking News: The Ceasefire Announcement
- Ceasefire Claims: Both the U.S. and Iran declare a two-week ceasefire, with each side claiming victory ([01:24]-[01:41]).
- Iran’s Narrative: “Iran has won the war because first of all, Iran did not surrender to American terms. And it is the site that is providing the terms for discussion about the ceasefire.” – Catherine Philp ([01:43])
- U.S. Claims: Trump claims the U.S. achieved its military objectives.
2. Negotiation Process and Pakistan’s Mediator Role
- Timeline: Negotiations reignited after Iran resubmitted a previously rejected proposal. Pakistan relayed Iran’s message to the U.S. ([03:34]-[04:56]).
- “Pakistan who relayed those [talks] to Trump and asked him to postpone his threats of targeting Iran’s civilian infrastructure…” – Catherine Philp ([03:49])
- Pakistani Interests: Pakistan’s mediation driven by strategic energy dependencies, ties to both Iran and the U.S., and regional ambitions ([06:32]-[08:00]).
- “Pakistan does love to get one over on India to look indispensable on the world stage…” ([07:54])
- Personal Ties: Trump’s rapport with Pakistan’s military chief Asim Munir is a factor ("Trump calls him my favorite field marshal") ([06:53]).
3. The 10-Point Ceasefire Proposal: Iran’s Wish List
- Major Points Discussed:
- U.S. commits not to attack Iran again.
- Iran continues uranium enrichment (in Farsi version, not English).
- Iranian control over Strait of Hormuz.
- Lifting of primary and secondary sanctions.
- Removal of all related UN Security Council resolutions and IAEA findings.
- War reparations from the U.S.
- Withdrawal of U.S. forces from the region.
- End to hostilities across all regional fronts (including Lebanon) ([09:40]-[11:02]).
- Contradictory Messaging: “Donald Trump has called it a workable basis for negotiations. On what grounds? I cannot reconcile that with his positions before the war.” – Catherine Philp ([11:13])
4. Ceasefire Realities & On-Ground Risks
- Delayed Implementation: Continued strikes after announcement due to Iran’s decentralized military command ([05:06]).
- Israel Excluded: Israel’s ongoing war with Lebanon not included in the framework ([05:38], [19:24]).
- Uncertain Control of Strait of Hormuz:
- "Who goes first down sniper's alley?... It's not closed, it's selectively closed." – Catherine Philp ([17:27])
- Iranian forces let through favored tankers (Pakistani, Chinese, their own), hinting at a future 'toll booth' system ([18:05]).
5. Winners and Losers: Strategic Assessment
- Iran’s Gains: Now in tighter control of Strait of Hormuz; negotiating stronger terms than before hostilities ([12:48]).
- “Iran was not exercising control of the Strait before... you managed to give away to them during the war.” – Catherine Philp ([12:48])
- U.S. Global Credibility: Major damage to international standing, alliances, and perceived dependability ([13:34]-[14:45]).
- “This is a Suez moment for America… they've done something extraordinarily reckless and blinked in the face of it." ([14:12])
6. Oil Markets and Global Economy
- Strait Reopening: Mixed – “The only thing prohibiting transit… is Iran shooting at shipping… Iran is proposing it effectively erect a toll booth on the Strait.” ([17:19], [18:05])
- Oil Price Volatility: Brent crude falls after ceasefire, but real flows are slow to resume; long-term disruption possible ([18:49], [19:01]).
7. Fraying Alliances and Fallout
- Israel’s Anger: Netanyahu faces backlash at home, frustrated by U.S. ceasefire ([19:46]).
- “To give up at this point, it is very problematic… this is an enemy, Iran, that Netanyahu has built his political career on for over 30 years." ([19:46])
- U.S.-Israel Rift: Reports of high-level U.S. frustration (JD Vance shouting at Netanyahu) and fractured trust ([20:46]).
- “It depends on what Israel asks of America next and how America responds…” ([21:17])
- Gulf Allies Shocked: Disillusionment with U.S. reliability after lack of consultation or protection ([22:51]-[24:05]).
- “The Gulf has got to live next door to Iran, and that’s why they didn’t want to see a decimated, chaotic Iran…” ([23:44])
8. Europe and International Law
- Allies’ Perception: Trump’s unpredictable actions are shifting global perceptions of America as an unreliable, even dangerous, partner ([24:29]-[25:22]).
- “It cements that the US is a dangerous and unpredictable ally who cannot be trusted.” ([24:31])
9. Durability of the Ceasefire: What Next?
- Negotiation Stalemate?: Risks of repeating Gaza/Lebanon stalemates; Iran’s control of the Strait is a persistent economic lever ([25:22]-[26:52]).
- Domestic U.S. Outlook: Trump increasingly isolated; potential for opposition to curtail his foreign policy moves post-midterms ([27:23]-[30:03]).
- “He has created a disaster for himself… painted himself into a corner he cannot get out of.” ([27:56])
10. Final Outlook: Are We Still on the Brink?
- Short-Term Calm, Long-Term Risks: Experts worry this ceasefire may merely pause rather than end hostilities.
- “David Albright… said that he was concerned that the 10 point plan… was more likely just to bring a break between two wars rather than the end of one.” ([30:24])
Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments
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On Iran’s Win:
“Iran has won the war because first of all, Iran did not surrender to American terms…”
– Catherine Philp ([01:43]) -
On U.S. Credibility:
“This is a Suez moment for America. This is a point at which they've done something extraordinarily reckless and blinked in the face of it. And lots of people who wish them ill are watching.”
– Catherine Philp ([14:12]) -
On the Ceasefire’s Fragility:
“It's the fact that nobody either could stop him from posting it or even thought they should, because it was fine.”
– Catherine Philp (re: Trump’s “wiping out a civilization” comment) ([28:23]) -
On the Strait of Hormuz:
“The only thing prohibiting transit in the straits right now is Iran shooting at shipping. It is open for transit, should Iran not do that.” ([17:19])
– Catherine Philp, paraphrasing U.S. officials -
On Global Alliances:
“It cements that the US is a dangerous and unpredictable ally who cannot be trusted. And whether that changes when Trump is gone is an open question.”
– Catherine Philp ([24:31])
Important Segment Timestamps
| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 01:13–02:07 | Ceasefire announcement and competing narratives | | 03:34–04:58 | How the ceasefire was brokered, Pakistan’s role | | 06:32–08:44 | Why Pakistan is involved and its interests | | 09:40–11:02 | Iran’s 10-point ceasefire proposal detailed | | 12:48–14:12 | Consequences for US strategy, global image | | 17:11–18:49 | Status and future of the Strait of Hormuz | | 19:24–21:17 | Exclusion of Israel, U.S.-Israel friction | | 22:51–24:05 | Gulf states’ view of the U.S., future alliances | | 25:22–26:52 | Risks of repeated stalemate and economic fallout | | 27:23–30:13 | Trump’s prospects, U.S. domestic fallout | | 30:13–31:16 | The future threat of war remains |
Summary Takeaways
- The U.S.-Iran ceasefire, engineered with heavy Pakistani mediation, rests on a disputable 10-point Iranian framework and represents a strategic climbdown for Washington.
- Iran emerges with strengthened leverage over oil chokepoint the Strait of Hormuz — a development that could destabilize energy markets and future negotiations.
- The ceasefire has exposed and aggravated fractures in U.S. alliances (with Israel, Gulf States, and Europe), undermining perceptions of American reliability.
- Trump is seen to have struck this deal under intense domestic and international pressure, raising questions about his leadership style and the sustainability of the peace.
- Experts warn the ceasefire may be merely a pause, not a resolution, in U.S.-Iran tensions, with continued risks of escalation looming over the region and global economy.
Further Inquiry
The episode closes with cautious optimism tempered by warnings from nuclear experts and ongoing distrust among allies. All eyes now turn to the upcoming Islamabad talks, the midterm elections, and the fragile peace in the world's most volatile arena.
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