Podcast Summary: The Thyroid Fixer, Episode 557
Title: How Big Pharma Plans to Erase Your Thyroid Treatment and the Receipt History to Prove It
Host: Dr. Amie Hornaman
Release Date: September 2, 2025
Episode Overview
This episode dives deep into the recent moves by the FDA to ban natural desiccated thyroid (NDT) medications and glandular thyroid supplements. Dr. Amie Hornaman explores the historical, financial, and political forces driving this trend, highlighting the significant role of pharmaceutical giants like AbbVie (owners of Synthroid and Armour) and the implications for millions of thyroid patients. Drawing on both history and current events, Dr. Amie details how regulatory actions threaten patient choice, optimal health, and set a precedent for future supplement restrictions.
Key Discussion Points and Insights
1. The FDA’s Attempt to Ban NDT and Glandulars
- Background: In August 2025, the FDA sent a letter to all natural desiccated thyroid medication and glandular supplement manufacturers, including Dr. Amie’s own company, citing the presence of T4 and T3 as the basis for seeking removal [12:00-15:00].
- Red Flags: Dr. Amie cautions listeners to be skeptical of claims that bans are “for your safety,” suggesting financial motives behind such regulatory moves.
- “Right there. That should raise a red flag in your mind that there are some money being exchanged and dollar signs behind the statement.” [05:33]
- Implications: This move is essentially about removing patient choice and funneling everyone onto FDA-approved drugs, primarily Synthroid.
2. History of Thyroid Medication and FDA Regulation
- Desiccated Thyroid as the Original Treatment: NDT was the first medication used for hypothyroidism in the late 1800s.
- Synthroid’s Rocky Past: Synthroid was on shelves for 40 years unapproved. In 2001, the FDA almost removed it for being “unsafe,” but it was rushed through approval due to industry pressure [24:00-27:00].
- “Synthroid had been on the shelves for 40 years. Unapproved.” [23:52]
- Parallel Today: Now, NDT is in the same position Synthroid was in two decades ago.
3. AbbVie’s Monopoly and Clinical Trials
- ABBVIE’s Business Moves: AbbVie owns both Synthroid (T4) and Armour (NDT) and is organizing clinical trials comparing their products.
- Clinical Trial Critique: The current trial only enrolls patients with “normal” TSH on T4, setting the stage to show “no added benefit” for Armour and justify removing NDT [29:10-31:25].
- “It’s really designed to show no added benefit from Armour because, here’s the thing, they are looking for proof that Synthroid is the be all end all.” [31:05]
- Goal: If Armour can be “proven” unnecessary, it opens doors for T4-only protocols to dominate.
4. The Medical System’s Treatment of Thyroid Patients
- Dismissal of Patient Advocacy: A 2019 PubMed study reveals that 46% of doctors see patient requests for thyroid tests beyond TSH as a “barrier.” [37:40-39:00]
- “‘Adherence to patient requests may lead to harm.’ That really highlights the medical system’s dismissal of your own patient advocacy.” [38:10]
- AbbVie’s Role in Test Accuracy: Recall of free T3 test kits in 2018-19 potentially led to artificially “normal” results, silencing complaints about low T3.
5. Market Manipulation by the FDA and Pharma
- Nature-Throid and NP Thyroid Pulled: In 2020-2021, these NDT brands faced recalls and stricter regs, shrinking patient options [43:00-45:30].
- Smaller Manufacturers Shut Out: The cost of FDA biologic approval is only manageable by large pharma, effectively locking out smaller companies and removing many supplement options.
6. The Financial Incentive: Beyond Thyroid Drugs
- Antidepressant Angle: AbbVie has recently bought rights to a psychedelic antidepressant, just as they move to limit patients’ access to optimal thyroid meds [52:00-55:00].
- “AbbVie buys the rights to a new novel psychedelic for depression…What’s going to happen when we pull that and ban it and you’re forced to use T4 only?” [54:25]
- Implication: Poorly treated hypothyroidism increases depression, driving up the market for these drugs.
7. What Patients Should Do
- Action Steps:
- Get current labs and document how you feel on NDT [01:02:00].
- Advocate for yourself and join informed communities (e.g., Dr. Amie’s Facebook group).
- Stock up on bovine thyroid glandular supplements—there are no legal restrictions (yet) on supplement “expiration” for home use [01:11:40].
- “When they’re gone, they’re gone. I’m telling my patients to stock up.” [01:09:38]
- Don’t let doctors or the system bully or “gaslight” you; seek new care if dismissed [01:16:30].
8. The Broader Precedent
- Supplements in the Crosshairs: Dr. Amie predicts other glandular supplements (adrenal, liver, spleen, testicle) will be next if the FDA is successful with thyroid glandulars.
- “They are going to start getting their greedy little hands into other areas, especially if a supplement can be a drug.” [01:14:24]
- Patient Empowerment: Dr. Amie calls for “loud patient advocacy”—keep demanding full thyroid testing, and don’t be silenced.
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
“If the government comes out and says, ‘This is for your safety and the safety of your children,’ it’s a red flag. Look for the dollars, just follow the money trail.”
— Dr. Amie Hornaman [46:30]
“You are not a tough case. I always say that. But it is time to put you first. Because like I say, we only have so much time on this planet. Let’s live it in optimization land because you deserve to be the badass human that you’re meant to be.”
— Dr. Amie Hornaman [07:20]
“The system is designed to keep you sick. So we have this 12-month transition window right now. Here’s what I’m going to encourage you to do: First of all, get current labs and document your response to natural desiccated thyroid medication. If you’re on it right now and you feel great…Document it.”
— Dr. Amie Hornaman [01:02:00]
“Continue being that loud patient advocate that demands additional testing. And if your doctor thinks you’re a burden or your ask is a barrier, it’s time to get a new doctor.”
— Dr. Amie Hornaman [01:16:39]
“ABBVIE wants Synthroid to be the be-all end-all. And there’s another reason why—they want to restore Synthroid profits. They want to crush NDT medication. So stock up on the bovine glandulars.”
— Dr. Amie Hornaman [01:09:15]
Important Timestamps for Key Segments
- FDA Letter and History of NDT Ban: [12:00–20:00]
- Pharma Control and Clinical Trials: [27:00–34:00]
- Gaslighting in Medicine & Patient Advocacy: [36:30–41:00]
- Recent Market Shifts & FDA Moves: [43:00–48:00]
- AbbVie’s Depression Drug Acquisition: [52:00–56:00]
- What Patients Should Do (Action Steps): [01:02:00–01:13:00]
- Future Supplement Restrictions and Call to Arms: [01:14:00–01:18:00]
Conclusion
Dr. Amie Hornaman delivers a passionate, evidence-backed warning about the systematic erasure of effective thyroid treatment options under the banner of “safety.” She exposes historical regulatory patterns, highlights the self-interest of pharmaceutical giants, and empowers patients to document their progress, stock up on supplements, join support communities, and—above all—advocate for their own well-being in the face of a system designed to limit their choices and vitality.
To stay updated or get support, join Dr. Amie’s “Just Fix Your Thyroid” Facebook group and subscribe to her newsletter (links in show notes).
Tone and Language:
Direct, passionate, sometimes irreverent. Dr. Amie blends “tough love” with humor and frankness, centering the listener as an empowered, “badass” patient who deserves to feel optimal.
For those seeking practical steps:
- Document your current thyroid management and symptoms.
- Stock up on glandular supplements before potential bans take effect.
- Stay involved in patient advocacy communities.
- Be vigilant for regulatory changes and keep demanding comprehensive thyroid testing and proper treatment.
