← The Thyroid (and Hormone) Fixer Podcast: Thyropause, Menopause, Metabolism and How to Fix It
The Thyroid (and Hormone) Fixer Podcast: Thyropause, Menopause, Metabolism and How to Fix It
603. The TRUTH About GLPs and What You Can Do When They Disappear, How to Hack Muscle Growth and How to Really Anti-Age
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There's people in groups, forums with doctors talking that they have a license to sell retrutide to people. And that because it's made through this compounder or whatever, and it's like, no, you don't. But there's so much misinformation, and I think it's a perfect segue about peptides online and on the Internet right now because there's just so much confusion and so few people really know what's going on.
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Welcome to the new and completely reimagined Thyroid Fixer podcast. A podcast that refuses to sound like every other health show out there.
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A
There.
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B
We're here to disrupt this entire space. And now you are part of that disruption. If you're listening right now, it's because something inside you finally said, I'm done being ignored. And I'm here to tell you good, because this is where everything changes for you. This is where you say, no more. No more being dismissed by your doctor. No more being told your labs are normal. No more recycled medical advice. No more recycled biohacking advice. No more being told you accept what you know isn't right here. You'll get truth, you'll get clarity. You'll get information you can actually use, tools, strategy and guidance you can apply right now to take back your energy, your hormones, your metabolism and your life. Every episode will give you something real, something that moves you forward, something that reminds you that you were never the problem the system was. This is the Thyroid Fixer podcast. This is your turning point. This is where you rise. Get ready. We're about to disrupt everything you thought you knew about thyroid and hormone health. Let's go. If you've ever walked out of a doctor's office being told your labs are normal, but you're exhausted, gaining weight, foggy, frustrated, then this is for you. Being told you're normal doesn't mean you're optimal. And it definitely doesn't explain why you still feel like something is wrong and feel like garbage. That's exactly why we created the Fixer Lab Test plus consult. It's affordable, often less than ordering labs on your own from places like LabCorp or Ulta. And it includes comprehensive thyroid and hormone testing, plus a full hour long consultation with one of my highly trained team members. We walk you through your results line by line and explain exactly what they mean for you so you can finally understand what's going on in your body and what your next step should be. So if you're done being told that you're fine and you're ready for real answers. Then go to fixerpowerlab.com that's F I X E R P O-W-E-R-L-A-B.com and get some help that you need. So you've heard him on the show before. One of my favorite people in the biohacking longevity peptide metabolic space, Jay Campbell, who is a colleague, a friend and just a freaking brilliant mind when it comes to all of this. I wanted to bring him on today to really talk about peptides in general. You guys all have so many questions about GLPs, right? I'm going to call them GOP ones because now there's one, two, three questions about GLPs, questions about peptides, questions about how to properly anti age and not get sucked down rabbit holes of doing some wackadoodle things that influencers are doing on Instag Instagram right now. So Jay, thank you for coming on and just keeping it real and no bullshit on the podcast.
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A
Dr. Amy, it's always great to see you. Thank you for having me. My wife and I love you like a sister and it's always an honor to be able to speak to you. And as I was telling you off air, it's an interesting time to be in the quote unquote peptide GLP space because as of Today, which is January 26th Monday, the Empire has struck back. And I would call the empire being the pharma overlords, but they're going after anybody who is selling GLP peptides. And by the way, not just GLP peptides from a marketing standpoint or promotion standpoint, but anything peptide related if you're talking on Meta or Instagram and TikTok too. As I was telling you, a bunch of people won't mention their names because hopefully they'll be back by the time this podcast runs. But they had their accounts deleted today and they're just literally deleting and striking posts off of the social media platforms left and right if you're talking about peptides. So, you know, why is that happening? For the people listening to this is basically pharma from a standpoint of Lilly and Novo, which are the, you know, the majority of the revenue generated by GLP peptide manufacturing and distribution. They're done with anybody selling their products without they think, an approved license, which is pretty much everyone. I mean, I have people messaging me. I know I told you this when I saw you last, but when I walked through the Longevity Fest booths in a month after you and I saw each other in December in Vegas, I went to Every single compounder. And I was talking to them and I asked one specific question. One question was, what does GLP1 peptide stand for and not one booth new. And then the second one was, how many of you guys are selling rotatrutide, which, as you know, is not an approved drug yet. It's a research chemical. And there were so many of them, Amy, selling it that it blew my mind, which is an absolute felony. And then, you know, I see people, because they message me all the time. There's people in groups, forums with doctors, you know, talking that they have a license to sell retrutide to people. And that because it's made through this compounder or whatever. And it's like, no, you don't. But there's so much misinformation, and I think it's a perfect segue about peptides online and on the Internet right now because there's just so much confusion and so few people really know what's going on. But basically, you know, this is now the time where Lillian Novo and through their attorneys are going to enforce a very heavy hand with like, if you're selling a GLP peptide, we're not going to allow you to sell it. We're either going to shut you down from a credit card processing standpoint, or if you're a 503B or C, we're going to say you don't have the right to do it. And so not only are we going to shut you down from a credit card processing standpoint, we're going to raid your facility and shut your doors. So that's where we are in today's day and age. And it's really unfortunate.
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B
Now, the 503 CB, these are compounding pharmacies. These are where like women right now are getting their hormones compound.
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A
Exactly, yes. Tons of manufacturing going on there.
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B
Okay, so wait, wait now, Big Pharma, you're already making a bajillion dollars off of your GLPs, and these compounding pharmacies are. They're little guys just trying to help.
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A
Exactly.
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B
People, let's say, like myself, that wants to micro dose. I don't want an Ozempic pan. I want your store pen.
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A
Exactly.
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B
So what's their thought? Is this about monopolization of the market?
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A
Basically, it's totally monopolization, cannibalization, eradication of competitors. This is literally a gigantic. Again, this is the Empire Strikes Back. No one can sell our products. You know, as you know, we paid a billion dollars for R and D. I mean, I mean, think I Mean, think about it. Let's talk about that for a second. Think about what kind of a joke R and D is in the FDA developmental drug pipeline right now. And by the way, you know, you're a physician. I mean, I just act like I am when I talk on these podcasts. But the truth is, is that no one in the in 2026 should be subjected to 10 years of medical review and oversight to pass a drug. Because again, look at road of true time, right? It's been as research chemical drug since early 2023. So people like me, like you, like, like other people who are smart and know what's going on, have already been using retatrutide in microdoses. You know, we all know somebody if it's not ourselves. And we've all seen the profound weight loss, the metabolic transformation, you know, the elimination of food noise. I mean, I could go on and on. I write about all these things in the book and yet the medical industry still has not approved the drug. I mean, in what world are you guys functioning in when the research chemical industry is already on to better things, right? Look, my company, Biolongevity Labs, is coming out with a super retrue tide. Yeah, It's a small molecule called Lepto gr and it will shit all over retru tide. Right? But yeah, these guys are like, oh well, it's Eli Lilly, right? So this is our drug. And you know, we've been in trials for nine years or eight years or seven years, whatever it is, it's a joke. We spent, you know, $1 billion in testing it to bring it to market. But it's just the whole pipeline of R and D and testing and all this is not relevant in today's, you know, hyper information age where all these people are already using it and experimenting with it again. Doctors are prescribing it. Compound pharmacies are illegally manufacturing it. It's not approved. So the whole system is broken. And now Lily, because you said it, they're the T word. They're a trillion dollar company and so they can do whatever they want. They have so many lawyers on patent on retainer, they can go after every pharmacy, every compound or every research company and no one can battle them. You don't have the pockets legally to defend yourself on them coming after you. So now they're basically, like I said, this is the Empire Strike Back. You can't sell our product. If you sell our product, we're raiding you, we're going to sue you, we're going to come after you for selling it illegally or without a license. I mean, see, that's what's happening now is if you get rated and you're a 503 B or a C and they find that you're selling Lilly's unapproved drug of retrutide, which again, many of them are, Amy. I mean, all. It doesn't take much to ask these people, hey, do you guys have an underground list? I mean, they're no different than a drug pro dealer. Right? So it's like if they find out that you're selling retrutide, you're in serious trouble. Yeah, that's like six, seven felonies. That's you transferring unapproved drugs across state lines. You're selling a drug that's not FDA approved as a pharmaceutical manufacturer. I mean, there are so many things that they can come after you now, but I mean, look, we all knew this day was coming. I've been telling people this for a year and it finally happened today. Well, and now they're going out for.
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B
Evidence for so long it's been threatened. And I heard that one compounding pharmacy, strive, is now countersuing Lilly, which it's like when you're talking about the big T, trillions of dollars versus a combating pharmacy that, hey, maybe they're, you know, a few hundred mil, but they're not in the T's. How is your little compounding pharma, a big little compounding pharmacy going to fight big pharma?
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A
They're not. I mean, they can get lucky at the appellate level in states and probably, you know, extend the life of them being able to do what they do. And look, I take obviously the side of the small compounder, even the 200 million strives, you know, the billion dollar empowers. I mean, these guys have paid a lot of money to build their companies. They've spent millions on payroll, on employee development, on doing all the things that you have to do in the compounded pharmaceutical chain of command world. And if you remember, and this is what makes me laugh the most, they were also given express use, right, to manufacture when Lilly couldn't keep up with the demand of Tirzafatide.
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B
Yes.
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A
So think about that. So they're like, oh, we need you guys to help us out. And so they're like, let them do it. And then one year later, oh, you can't do that anymore. In fact, if you do that, we're going to sue you. We're going to take you down. I mean, it's so incestuous and insidious, what goes on in the pharma world. But this is now what's happening, Amy. And so I don't know what they do. I mean, I think they hope that they get injunctions or that they get, like I said, state level courts to block things. But, dude, Lily, again, being the T word, they've got a lot of power. And look, this is exactly what Cali means. Told me when I saw him in Las Vegas at the Longevity Fest. We spoke for 30 minutes, which was an honor for me because, you know, the fact that a guy like that, as busy as he is with ear of RFK. Talk to me for 30 minutes. This is exactly what he said to me. He said, look, you and your teams of people, your industry, the ruo, call it research use only, slash direct to consumer. You guys don't have a seat at the table. Lily owns the table. I mean, that's what he told me. And he's like, look, man, he's like, rfk loves peptides. He uses therapeutic testosterone. He uses therapeutic peptides. He probably uses research peptides if he's smart. He is. Right? Yep.
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B
Yeah.
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It's like. But he doesn't have that kind of power and control. He's like, until you guys form a pact, get lobbying power, which again, as you know, just money.
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B
Yep.
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A
You don't have a seat at the table. And so these people are so out of touch and old and clueless. They don't give a shit about peptides or hormones. You know, all this. I mean, it looks like they're going to get rid of fricking desiccated thyroid.
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B
I know.
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A
I mean, all this is insane to smart, educated people like you and me who are in the trenches day in and day out. But like, these guys are so far removed from reality. And Lilly is literally writing the laws. Do you realize that every single statute that has come up to attack the pharma space, meaning the compounded space, has all been written from the state of Indiana, which is where Lilly is headquartered. Lilly owns the state of Indiana, Congress and Senator, the legislative side. So everything that they write, if it's not instantly vetoed, it automatically gets built in because they just pay so much money for people to sign.
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B
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. It is insane. And I don't know if you've seen this commercial out. It's by Lily. And my husband and I have been trying to decipher it now for the past, like five times we've seen it. It's a obese, I mean, visibly obese guy. And he's talking about, like, loving his body and don't judge my body. And that something at the end that really puts about, what the hell is that for? Is that Lilly's subconscious way of pushing their GLPs or what?
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A
What it actually is. And I write about this in the book. And look, this is the truth, you know, because people will come at me and do all the time about, like, how can you go after pharmaceutical companies when they're the ones that created GLPs? Because you rave about GLPs. And I'm like, you're right. But you have to understand, Lilly did not make GLPs to help the American public.
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B
Right?
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A
If they did, they would never in a million years. Because, remember, the chemists that they employ at these companies are the best in the world. They pay these people a lot of money. They're really, really smart. And they clearly understand that giving a titratable dose of 6 milligrams and then go to 12 or 15 or whatever to start people, they know what happens to the receptors on these people, and they know that they blow them out. They know that they cause metabolic damage and haywire and thyroid dysfunction and wegovy neck and face and butt and, you know, collapse of muscle and catabolism and all these different things that I write about in the book. And they don't give a shit. Because the truth is that they sell these products at a high markup and a very difficultly insane margin to saturate people's receptors, to get people hooked on them and desperate for them and to sell them at an escalated stairstep dose. And they don't care, because the way they look at it is like, there's just. What was it PT Barnum said? For every fool who grows wise to the ways of the world, four suckers are born a minute.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So to them, it's a numbers game. I had a podcast earlier today. I said this, and you know this. If Rettrutide was made affordable and accessible to the entire world, we could eliminate obesity. We could absolutely eliminate obesity in literally six to eight months if we made that drug affordable and assessed possible to the world. But they're never going to do that. I mean, Amy, the way they want this to go is they want to, especially now, getting rid of research. Because let's say this right, like a reason again, we don't sell this anymore, but when we did, you could get retrutide in 10 milligrams for 149 bucks. Okay? Now, granted, there's cheaper Research companies out there, you know, I've seen it as low as 89 or 99. You and I both know that's not real. It's probably, you know, mannitol and HCG or who knows. But it's not actual retreat because I know what it costs and I know what the profit margin is on it. But the bottom line is they're going to sell it for 1500-2000 for a 10 milligram bot versus $149 on the research miles. So. Right. So it's who can afford in the world a vial of retatrutide for 1500 dollars, 10 milligrams or higher? Nobody. A small portion of people. And I would argue that the people that can afford it are going to be looking at that being like, what is this? Yeah, like I used to go to Bio Longevity Labs or Peptide Sciences or Core and I would buy this before they took them off for 150 bucks. What, what kind of a scam is this? But again, they don't care about us. They only care about the sheeple. Realistically, who will be getting subrogated through their health benefits plan because as you know, it'll be 249 and then it'll be 399 and then it'll be 699 because they're escalating dose and so they just get those people hooked and it's all scammed through insurance and so you'll end up keeping it. Not to mention that they could keep it out of the hands of anybody who's not a type 2 diabetic too. Right. Because they can do that.
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B
Yeah.
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So you can limit and still make a fortune as they do through insurance. It's just like when Trump came out in December and he said, oh, we're going to nationalize sema, Blue Tide with Govi and the same thing with Manjaro and we're going to lower people's prices and we're going to have them paying a premium and the government's going to subsidize the rest of it. What they don't understand, don't tell you, is that Lilly and Novo didn't agree to lower their prices. This is just the American government subsidizing through taxpayer dollars all these fat, inflamed, insulin resistant dumpster fire people.
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B
Yep.
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A
So, dude, it's just a giant scam and they're now taking away, again, call it the middleman's opportunity to use these drugs at an affordable cost. And obviously, as you know, to use, as you said, earlier in the show to microdose them, which is by the way, the only clinically and scientifically observed way to make them work and not cause addiction. Lifelong use receptor blowout. Again, all the symptoms and side effects that we've heard about ad nauseam for five years.
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B
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And they've been helping so many people. So everyone that is listening right now that is literally having a panic attack because microdosing GLPs have changed their life. I actually interviewed a woman that was on the Biggest Loser Season 3 and her whole story of obesity her entire life really was, was, I mean, just so impactful. What she went through in the Biggest Loser and gained all of it back plus £100, the whole deal. It wasn't until she heard a pod, I believe it was you and me talking about GLP on one of my shows. She's like, I broke through that mental barrier, the GLPs are cheating and I tried it and she's microdosing. Whole life has changed. She's like, I got my life back, I can live again. I'm not literally. She would gain weight if she had a bite of anything. Yeah. So what are these people like her going to do now that they have found something that has given their life back? What's the answer? So a few months ago I hit that frustrating place. A lot of women I know, you know this know way too well. Just the low energy, losing strength at the gym, which sucks. Workouts feeling harder, not better. I'm only doing like 1 push up instead of 10. That is when I decided to bring in essential amino acids eaas. Now I was getting lax with mine so I needed to remind myself how important they are. Essential amino acids are literally the building blocks your muscles actually need. And they're also broken down so you can use them immediately. No digestion stress, no extra calories, no bloating. And they are far more efficient than relying just on food alone to get your amino acids. I gotta tell you, almost immediately I noticed a difference. Just better pumps, more strength, better recovery. I feel like I'm holding on to my muscle. I can do more push ups and most important, consistency. I could show up and actually feel good doing it. I wasn't skipping my workouts because I felt weak and fragile. This is exactly why I choose kion Aminos. Their EAAs are sugar free, non GMO, vegan, incredibly easy to digest. I mix them right in my water, throw em in my water all day long. They taste amazing. My favorite by the way is mango right now, although the berry is a rock star as well. So I take em every single day and what did I notice? Have I noticed better energy, better recovery consistency in the workouts, Just feeling leaner, stronger. Even on rest days or if I skip a meal or if I'm counting calories or if I'm fasting, I still take them just to stay on track and protect my muscle. So if you're trying to lose fat without losing muscle and for goodness sake if you are on a glp you had better be using kion aminos. It has to be part of your everyday routine. So go to getkeon.com that's G-E-T-K-I-O-N.com forward slash thyroid T H Y R O ID and that is going to give you 20% off. 20% off. So you can try them yourself.
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A
I mean dude. Well first off congratulations to her. One of the parts of my book that makes me so excited and grateful about putting it into universe is I have a chapter on transformations and it's, I mean do the transformations are mind boggling like 425 pound guys to 1A, 320 pound women to 125, 130, you know, fat with rolls to six pack abs. I mean the transformations are so amazing but it's not the physical and before and after physiology changes that are so amazing to read about. It's what happens to them in their lives. And that's what's so amazing about these drugs is as you know they literally change brain wave patterning. Yeah, they eliminate alcoholism, porn addiction, obsessive compulsive disorder, smoking again. All these people whose minds are, you know, call it addled by consumerism. It corrects it.
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B
Yeah.
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So it's just this amazing thing and this amazing tool. But to your question, I honestly think, and this is horrible but I honestly think that there's going to be a horrific black market that is going to basically become about because of that. And it's going to be just like when anabolic steroids were outlawed and it went underground. And you are literally going to be playing Russian roulette with your health. I mean you know, my good friends will say, you know the cartel and the Russians will own the black market and there will literally be fentanyl true tide. There will literally be fentanyl true tide out there. So it's a really unfortunate situation. I mean I will hope and pray that you know, my attorney and the people behind the American Peptide association shout out to Jeff Cohen can get this pack built and can get us quote unquote a seat at the table.
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B
Yeah.
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And can allow the direct to consumer model to thrive. And look, I can explain it, I mean as we hope it's propagated, but I think that it will eventually just be a person will have to vet themselves to the company that they're buying online. They'll have to upload their identification, they'll have to be 21. There'll be nobody under 21 that can buy. Yeah. And then you will literally have to answer, you know, a handful of questions and it'll be similar to a telehealth platform. But what it won't be, you know, because obviously, as you know, peptides are not controlled substances.
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B
Right.
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So it's not like you're buying thyroid or testosterone, so you don't have to see you. It'll just be one of those what they call Async, right. Where you'll, you're on the deal and you know, you answered the questions, you verified your identity and now you got to wait 25 or 30 seconds for them to say, okay, you can buy it. Now what I don't know and what Jeff doesn't know and what really nobody knows is like how much are they going to make people pay to access these, you know, again, call it direct to consumer. Are they going to continue to give like research prices or are they going to make everybody go through four standardized American synthesized facilities and buy from there? Because if that's what happens, then you're going to be looking at a 503A situation and the prices are still going to be outrageous.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So we don't know, but we hope that they'll be able to keep the prices competitive because if you're a lawyer, and obviously I'm not, but obviously I talk to them now very regularly, you're going to argue that the entire research use industry, the research use peptide industry, was founded on the theory of open market competition and that the pharmacy world, or the compounded world, or even just the direct to manufacturer, you know, the Lillys and the Novo world was so outrageously not compet pricing that the RUO market just developed naturally as like an offshoot. Right. Of pressure of like, well, wait a minute, people still deserve to be able to use these agents, but they're going to get them cheaper. But obviously, as you know, the dichotomy always was that the pharma group or pharma provided products could provide them ready to use, whereas the research, you have to, you know, reconstitute them, you have to procure insulin needles. And you also have to be smart enough on understanding dosage between milligrams, micrograms, reconstitution, et cetera. So that was always kind of the basis legally from a legal opinion on the difference in price. And that's what they, if you talk to the smart attorneys that are involved in this now, they say the same thing. They say that that's going to be the variance is, hey, if you go the research route, you can get it cheaper, but at the same time, you have to have a lot more knowledge because you can't just do this. And I think you know this because how many people have told you, oh, you know, I heard you doc speak about peptides, or I heard Jake Campbell speak, or I heard Ben Greenfield speak and I went and to this company and I bought all this stuff and then it just sits on the shelf of my house because I don't know what the to do. Right. So it's like you hear that too. So, yeah, there is a reason that people will go the compounded route, you know, and pay eight to ten times the cost because they don't know what to do. And they feel more comfortable if the quote unquote Dr. Or the NP or the PA would send them the instructions with the stuff already reconstituted so they can just inject it. You know what I mean? So there is, there is that play. But thankfully there are enough people now who are like saying, you know what? Know what? I'm hip to that deal. I can do this myself. I can reconstitute this myself. I can use a peptide cheat sheet or a peptide calculator.
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B
Sure.
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A
And I can figure this out. It's not hard. It does take some time. It's like, you know, like, you know, this what people, men and women, when they inject themselves for testosterone, Right. It's like brushing your teeth. The first couple times you're afraid of the needle and then you get used to it. The needle doesn't hurt. You're like, oh, this is nothing.
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B
Right.
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A
It's the same thing with peptides.
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B
It is, it is. Now, I thought you were going to say, and these people go to these random, never heard of peptide types. Because we know there's a lot of those out there too.
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A
We should talk about them too. Because as you know, I think right now, and this is my opinion, and again, I've been in this space since 23,003, I think that 80 to 85% of research chemical companies are selling fake products. Yes. Yeah.
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B
Because they popped up Everywhere, Jay. I mean, the only place I buy my peptides is from my longevity labs because I know the quality. You don't know the quality of these, these random no name places that are popping up left and right.
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A
Look, there are some big name companies which I refuse to name that you and I know that I won't mention because I've had the same conversation with you before that I've tested and they never test any higher than 80 to 85%. So that doesn't mean that you're getting a peptide that's ineffective. You're just getting a low dose peptide. So you are right, it is totally buyer beware. But the good peptide manufacturers are making them in the same facilities. FDA registered sterility process and approved GMP practice. Again, not FDA approved, just FDA cleared at FDA registry. So it's free of contaminants, free of endotoxins, free of lipopolysaccharides, free of all the shit that people like Andrew Huberman say is in them. And so there's no difference in any of those. But you have to be smart enough and do your due diligence obviously on the companies that you can do that. And like you said, you've got to buy from a company that will, will provide you a lot number. And obviously a certificate of authenticity says here it is, go test it out. You want to call the testing facility and verify you can do that, right? But I mean, dude, you know this. I mean there are now so many influencers that are selling shit out of their basement, the back of their car. I mean, it is insane what I see. I mean, look, there are people out there, Amy, counterfeiting FLGR 242 and Faust. I mean Clotho right now. Like it is a massive problem. Like our chemist is sending trademark infringement letters on a daily basis to so many people. So we're just in the wild, wild west of peptides and small molecules and bioregulators right now. And there's so many scumbags that are trying to cash in. It's really, really unfortunate. But like you said, do your homework and know what company you're buying from and stop trying to save 25 or $30 on a vial of peptides because we both know you're literally getting fake or bad counterfeit stuff.
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B
So it's the same thing I've always talked about, about supplements, right? People who go to Costco and they'll get their vitamin D for $15, but they won't buy that vitamin D for $30 because, oh that's too expensive off of a legit website. Okay? You did not just save $15, you wasted it at Costco on a piece of shit product that is nothing but garbage.
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A
So how many times have these people told you, Amy? Oh, I tried Peptides and they didn't work. And you're like, huh?
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B
Yeah.
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A
But then you realize that they bought them from a company that literally was fake.
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B
Exactly, exactly.
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A
It's so prevalent out there. And you know, again, obviously I'm an owner with borrowings every lab, so I don't want to sound like a shill, but we continually get validation and verification from the biggest names in the industry. Before I got on this call today, I literally got an email. I'll read it to you from Brad Leggett, who is the founder of the NFL Pro Players Business Network with 16,500 pro active and former NFL players who are all using peptides and they want to set up a giant distribution partnership with us. So it's like when you get that kind of validation, you know that people are testing our products with independent companies and they're coming back super high. There's actually, I can't tell you who this is, but there's a very, very powerful testing company in Texas that tests pretty much all of the quote unquote drugs of the pharmaceutical industry and all of the research peptides. And they sent us an email on Thursday of last week saying that they want to meet with us because they want to possibly get involved in a distribution deal with this big network in Europe that wants to sell our products. So again, I don't want to sound like a shill because I am an owner in the company, but we definitely spend a lot of money ensuring that our products are legit. And by the way, we've had problems. I think, you know this Biogut Pro, which has the strongest over the counter dysbiosis peptide synergistic blend in the world, the sodium bicarbonate was expanding in cold temperatures in the last two months and blowing up capsules. So there's been a lot of people that bought that product and were like, motherfucker, you guys scammed us. I've opened it. I had nine capsules with powder everywhere. And we're like, look, it's. We didn't do this intentionally. They were fine at the facility. But this is kind of the wild, wild west. Also, a peptide manufacturing is. You don't know what's going to happen when you send the areas that have frigid cold temperatures versus South Florida where it's still 80 degrees, you know, you don't know what's going to happen until you're in that environment.
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B
Right, exactly. But to your point, when you are purchasing peptides from a reputable company, from an owner that actually cares and has his name behind it, I think it's fantastic that you own BLL because I always say this with supplements too. It is your name. It is my reputation behind Fixer. It is your reputation behind the ll. So if something goes wrong, it comes back on our reputation and we have enough integrity to make that situation right. As opposed to the no name big corporate guy that you don't have a fricking clue who he is or what he does.
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A
They don't give a shit either. Hair. Dude, I'm not kidding you. Like in the last week I was in Mexico with Monica and she was like, I was so stressed. I mean, we started getting these Tuesday and Wednesday, these notifications from people saying that they're selling fake FLGR 242. And of course they're selling it for like half the price that we're selling it for. And as you know, we don't have a huge markup on our products. I mean, we're making them accessible to the whole world. I mean, there's no one selling Clotho in the medical community in the world that I know of for under 2,400amonth. Month. And we're selling it for $400 a month for supply for men and women. Right? Yeah. So we are making it affordable and fair. And these low lives in China and India, I think it's actually the Middle east. It's probably Dubai. We're already flooding the market with counterfeits. So it's like, this is the world that we live in. I mean, you know, we live in a world where it's like you make something really good and you make it accessible and affordable to intelligent people, which as you know, is still a small percentage of reality. But then you have the people like that who literally now take advantage of the people that are buying it. And they're like, you know, I mean, dude, I probably got a hundred messages between Tuesday and Wednesday of last week telling me they're like, dude, what is this? You're scamming us. What is this? And I'm like, what do you guys talk about? And then you start seeing them coming in and it was clearly they were counterfeits. But dude, these people are good. I mean, they've got like exact replica holographic seals of the BLL logo. The BLL vial Wrap with the lot number. I mean, I'm telling you, the counterfeiting capabilities of these people in Dubai and China is unreal.
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B
So how do we make sure that they're getting. Just buy from your site?
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A
The only way we can do it is we know where they come from. From a distribution channel. Like, we know who we've sold to, and we have complete control of that. And we just have to hit them with a. With a trademark. I mean, they get sued instantly and they're. They'll take a them down. But as you know, if they get three days, they may be able to siphon, you know, 10, 20, $15,000 out of people.
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B
Right.
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A
And look, if you buy from these people, you already said it. They're not going to send you anything.
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B
No.
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A
They're just going to take your money.
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B
Yeah. And then shut down.
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A
If you're that stupid to pay half price for a product that you already know or should know is already extremely affordable, then you're. You deserve to get your money taken from you. Yeah, I mean, I hate to say that maybe, but it's just true. I mean, again, it's the law of the. It's the law of the fittest. The law of survival. Survival of the fittest. I mean, you know, if you're that stupid, then you know what? You deserve to get it. It's just like people that buy renatru tide for $69 and they say to me, like, how do you not sell it for cheaper when these people do? And I'm like, bro, that is not Retitru tied.
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B
It's not. It's not real.
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A
Too bad.
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B
Real. Now, what about for Retta? Will that be available, like, kind of be able to bypass big pharmas?
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A
Yeah, it's a small molecule, so that's a great question. So the way this is going is if you want to stay viable and keep selling your products, you better not be selling anything that's down the GLP pipeline, because that's where they own the patent. And so what's happening now is, again, the smart people are looking at ways to molecularly alter the GLP formulations. But even if you do that, they're going to come after you. And so what you have to do is, and this is interesting, and this is brand new as of today. So the. What you can do is what is now called a right to operate study. And what that means is it's commonly known as a freedom to operate analysis or a clearance study. And this is what is considered. I'm just reading this to you is a crucial intellectual property. So IP assessment to see that if a new product, process or service can be made, used, sold or imported without infringing on existent third party patents or IP rights. So let me explain what that means. If you want to sell Retitrutide first and again right now, you can still do it. I mean, they'll come after you, but you can still do it legally because obviously Lilly has not approved it. Right? So right now, if you sold it as a research chemical, there are many people still doing it. They are going after you if you are, but they're still legally able to. To do it. But believe me, Lilly is going to get their pound of flesh if you're doing it.
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B
Yeah, you would.
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A
Then legally you would have to have this right to use or freedom to operate license granted by an attorney and a copyright holder, that you molecularly altered the drug, meaning to call it the GLP peptide. Again, we're talking about Retrutide in a way that does not, quote, unquote, compete with Lilly's actual reticrutide product. Now, here's the catch. It will if it does the same thing or something similar. But you can technically get away in court until they shut you down. But if you have. This is crazy. But if you have that right to operate license, they can't prosecute, so they can only shut you down. So think about this. And again, we're not doing this, but we've just found out about this in the last couple of days. You could technically make millions of dollars before Lilly's patent attorneys would shut you down. But you would not be prosecuted or put in jail because again, you would have what they call a right to operate until they would shut you down. Because again, if you were infringing on Lilly's patent, which clearly you would be, if you're selling a product that is competitive in the GLP pathways, they would eventually shut you down. But again, if you're a big peptide manufacturer, you could make a viable argument that says, well, look, Jay, let's just say this. I have six months until Lily approves the drug. So if I continue to sell it with a carbon bond removed or ha. Hyaluronic acid or something like that added to it. And I had six months until they approved it. I could legally operate with that case. I think you got to pay 25 or 30 grand to get this express use. Right? It used to be a lot more, but now AI Right, AI can speed up the process. So you could technically make an argument that if you were selling Run and True Tide in two to three to four million dollars a month increments. And you had, I mean, do the math. And you had six or seven more months. I mean, fuck, you could literally make an extra 20 to 25 million dollars if you were in that space. So I think people are actually doing this. We have no business and do not want to mess with Lilly's patent attorneys. We have no interest in doing any of that. We're doing fine without that. But I think there are people doing that because our attorneys have told us that that's the, the path that they're going. But again, it's the path of least resistance in that you could get away with it until they approve it. Okay, but once it's approved, you will definitely not be able to sell it in that kind of way. And if you did, you would lose fast. So. But again, if you're an owner and you're like, hey, they can't prosecute me, but they're going to have to pay money to shut me down in court, you know, if you're making 3 or 4 million a month, you're probably going to do it. I mean, again, we're not doing that, but I could see an argument where people are going to do that. But look, Lilly is not stupid and they have covered all their patents are very widely, you know, applicable. And so you're not going to be able to get away with that kind of stuff unless you get away with it for a short amount of time. Again, just to make a little bit of extra money. And hopefully. Well, it's not hopefully. If you have it, they can't prosecute. So basically they just shut you down and then you're done. But they can't come after you and say, hey, you need to pay us back taxes because you never had the right to use it because you had the express right to use it.
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B
So what about something like Tessa Fensing? Is that a viable alternative if they pull the GLPs and they're no longer available? I know you have that in one of the BLO products and I don't know if it exists on its own, but I know it's in a combo blend. Is that. I don't know. Is it good enough? I mean, it's not a glp.
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A
But is it good? It's not. I mean, let's go back to GLP reta, or it's called Lepto gr. So that will be the super retatrutide. So that will actually be a small molecule that is injected. It's possible that it could be orally consumed, but that is probably a year out. So the fastest way to make this and you know, avoid keeping China from re engineering it and under eight months is to do it injectable. But the way it will work is you only have to inject it once a month. And perhaps if you're a small person or a woman, you might only have to inject it once every six weeks. Weeks.
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B
Wow.
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A
So it's a really, really powerful product in that it binds up to six to ten times harder than the current version of retrutide. So you would just still take a tiny micro dose but it will improve insulin signaling and upbreak metabolic rate that much better than the current version. So you would just take a tiny, tiny amount. What we don't know yet about it, we know it's going to be better than Retro trouton. I know that's a strong statement, but we've seen the studies and we've seen the binding affinity. What we don't know is what it's going to cost. We do know. I talked to the chemist this morning and he said that it's extremely expensive to manufacture because of the way they have to distill the fatty acids to keep the chain stable for as long as they do the half life is as long as it is with the linker and the fatty acids. He says he doesn't know what it's going to actually cost. But we assume that you'll be able to get this for probably about 250 bucks. Right. So that would mean from bll that you probably end up paying if you had a sale or a discount like 169 to 170. So somewhere around the lungs of what retatrutide is. But here's the thing, you won't have to use as much, right? So it's going to last longer. Right. So you'll probably get one vial will last you six months, you know, maybe four months. Yeah. So I mean that's where this is all going is it's going to small molecules. Everybody knows that you can't mess with Lilly and Novo in the patent space anymore with GLP peptides. So you gotta start looking at other avenues. And I write about this in the book. In fact, the bonus chapter of the book is all about what's in the clinical pipeline. And I swear to God, I'm not joking when I tell you this, Amy. Like the book is profound and I'm like in love with it and it's so good it's so technically deep and it covers everything. But, like, I actually say that I. Very truthfully, in two years, this book could be irrelevant because that's how fast this golden age of pharmaceutical and pharmacological development is happening. When it goes into this space with, like, metabolic upregulation. And look, I do want to talk about Follistatin on this podcast, because it's absolutely. Dude, it's. It's the most insane thing. I mean, if I can't, because I don't want to get in trouble, but I have people messaging me every day right now, sending me before and afters, women and men. And by the way, just so you know, this shit works better in women than it does men. And we didn't even realize this until now, like, eight weeks into the experiment, because women have less myostatin inhibition, right? Because women don't have the genetics or call it the androgen receptor sensitivity that men have. So this product works better in women than it does men. Women put on more muscle and get tighter, harder, and leaner faster than guys do. So like I said, I have all these pictures of people that are like four to six weeks in, and they're. It's insane. They're, like, adding four pounds of muscle, losing four or five pounds of fat, no change in diet. Just picture. Here is when I started. Look at me now. It's like, dude. So, like, I can't wait until we can sell this other product, which I was telling you about a while ago, which is called Slim Assist, which is basically going to be 1 milligram a week of Follistatin, which any woman can take while they're taking a GLP peptide and absolutely not have any muscle loss. It will prevent muscle loss in, like, instantly.
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B
Okay? And also for the listeners that just heard women putting on muscle, we're not talking about.
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A
Right.
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B
Bodybuilder, steroidal muscle, just to be clear. Right. Just to clear that up.
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A
Yes. You'll look better in a bikini with falls dead. That's literally what it's going to do. It's going to melt fat and make you harder and more toned. But, yeah, there's. I mean, you know, I remember Monica was like, oh, I'm not going to do it. I was like, dude, it's not a hormone. It's not going to change you. It's not going to make your clit grow. Your voice get like this.
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B
Right?
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A
You know, Exactly. Doesn't do that. But, I mean, it really is. I think, Amy, I'm not speaking hypothetically on This, I think it's going to be the greatest performance enhancing drug ever. I think that in three to four months, once the world finds out about it, we're not going to be able to keep up with demand. Because again, I'm telling you, I have pro bodybuilders that are four weeks into this and they're like, do I just stop using steroids?
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B
Oh, my God.
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A
No. That's. That's what this is. I mean, we. I talked about this last night with a, with a chemist. I was like, where is this going? Is this going to change pharmacological and performance enhancement permanently, like, at its core? Because as you know, you know, anabolics have a place and they build muscle, but every single one of them does deleterious effects to some form of a biological system or organ system. It doesn't matter if you're using 5 milligrams of Anivar and you're a woman or 10 milligrams of Primobol. And as a woman, all of them do something deleterious. If you, if you dig into the labs and you see the inflammatory markers and you look at apo and apob and all the small particles, somebody somewhere is getting negative effects versus follow statin, there's nothing. It doesn't enlarge your internal organs. It's again, due to the binding of albumin. It only binds to androgen receptors in muscle. So all it does is it makes you more muscular, more lean, harder and more dense. If you're training and eating right and doing all the things, you always say that, doing all the things. And that's what will happen. And like I said, I mean, I have all these before and afters of women who have literally took it for 12 weeks. There's only, there's only two, but there's some women that are on four to six. But the two women that took it for 12 weeks had like six pounds of skeletal muscle net gain and eight pounds of fat loss. So they just work harder and better in a bikini.
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B
Okay, now I have to ask this because I want to try it, but as we know in the world of HGH growth hormone, all of that, if you have had cancer like I did, now I got to stay away from the HGH because I don't want to kick up cancer cells to grow. Any correlation with Follistatin and Cancer Safety Profile?
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A
No, absolutely not. And again, I can give you two links to two podcasts I've done with the chemist that actually engineered the product and has been using it for a year. And, you know, did tons of studies and rodents and horses and cats and dogs and obviously now humans. And he's been using it for eight months on himself. And I've been using Follistat now for close to four months on myself. I mean, I am a totally different person. I mean, I know I'm covered up today. It's cold in Tampa. But my shoulders and my arms and my upper chest is never. I've never been this big dude. Like, I made a bunch of videos over the weekend in. In a tank top in Mexico. It was actually on Friday before we came back. We flew back on Saturday, and I said to my team, and they're like, bro, what are you on? And I'm like, volstatin. And they're like, holy. Yeah. But everybody who's on this is getting bigger and denser. And like I said, I have not been eating to gain muscle, right? So I have probably put on a net four to five pounds at times. I've been up eight pounds, but I probably have gained four or five pounds because I've lost fat, right? So I've gotten thicker, harder, and leaner. And that's what's happening to women, too. Monica, by the way, has only been on it for three weeks. This is her third week. And you really don't start noticing anything. And by the way, she's taking one form, a fourth of a monthly dose. So a woman basically 5 milligrams. You get two vials for a month for a man to start, and that's 2.5 milligrams a week, is 5 milligrams a vial. We recommend that women do one fourth the dose. So basically, you can either do one vial will last you a month, or you could actually do one vial to last you two months if you want to really, really go low, which would, like I said, be one full the dose. And that's what Monica's doing because she wants to see how it works. Here's the crazy thing, Amy, is that according to the chemist, he's like, you can do this ad nauseam, odd infinitum until you basically get to where your body is. Okay, I don't need to be any more muscular. You know what I mean? So you could literally, like, right now, his preferred dose for dudes and women would be one half or one fourth of this is 2.5 milligrams a week for 12 weeks. 5 milligrams a week for 12weeks. And then if you really want to be a bull, take 10 milligrams a week for 12 weeks and then see what happens. And obviously, you know, do dexos, do in bodies, do prenovos or whatever, you know, get your inflammatory markers measured. I know. We've already had people, Brian Moscow, the gorilla chemist, and Matt Christman, who both work for bll. Brian's our chief science officer, and Matt is our head of affiliate marketing. And both of them have done tasks and both of them put on eight pounds of skeletal muscle in 12 weeks. Now, remember, these are guys who are competitive, big bodybuilding bros. So for them to put on that kind of mass in 12 weeks, it's insane. It's. It's not even precedented. I mean, Brian is already out there when they don't delete his account, telling people this is the greatest drug in the history of performance hazmat. And he's like, I will debate anyone anywhere, and he's a pretty smart guy. But we just don't have it in circulating, you know, out there, you know, in the commons marketplace yet. Because, as you know, we sold out in one week of our supplier.
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B
Is it back up now or. No, still not ramping.
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A
I wish we. So we expect. We had our call today. We expect that we'll have 5,000 units of Slim Assist, Clotho and follow Statin by February 15th. It's possible out of five days earlier than that, but it's most likely by February 15th. But the waiting list is so massive that all I can tell you is, is that our expectation is that by the middle of March, we should not have any supply constraints.
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B
Okay.
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A
That we should be able to keep up with demand. I mean, you know, I'm concerned now with this NFL players group that they want to do a big deal. And we're talking to people right now in Europe, too, that want to do massive. So they're just waiting for the CAS number for Clotho, because we have the CAS number for Follistatin, but they're waiting for the CAS number for Clothe. And if that happens, we could be looking at. Dude, we could be looking at people wanting to manufacture 20,000 bottles of Clotho a month.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know what I mean? For Europe. And look, there's tons of people on Clotho. I've been very, very. We haven't talked about it. I've been very outspoken about me and Monica's use of Clotho. Me and Monica are sexually like, we're 25 again.
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B
It's amazing.
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A
Like, it is the best thing that I've ever used. I mean, both of us are like. I mean, again, we've been in a 14 year monogamous relationship. I mean, obviously we're attracted to each other, but when we have sex now, it's like we're attacking each other, right? So it's making a younger biological age. And obviously it's improving endothelial tissue sensitivity. So everything is enhanced erection strength, vaginal moistness, orgasmic power. I mean, everything is just. You're younger as a, as a biological being and so you have all that effect of just feeling better and stuff like that. It's very subtle. I'm pretty sure your brain expands too. You definitely are having faster brain speed. You know, a lot of people commented to me when I spoke at Hack youk Health that I just gave this incredible presentation on peptides. It was an 85 slide deck in 30 minutes.
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B
You were amazing. You know, I was there, blew it away.
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A
It's so crazy. It's like I didn't even realize I was going that fast. And I was actually capable of disseminating it in a way that wasn't too fast. I mean, I thought it was going too fast, but so many people told me, they're like, no, bro, it was amazing. I think that's probably due to Clotho, because that was in my second. I was two and a half months into Clotho when I was doing that, but that was probably when I really started to notice my brain getting better. But I mean, honestly, there's no person that I know who's over the age of 40 that can't benefit from Clotho.
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B
All right, well, expand a little bit because now you've teased the audience. So Clotho.
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A
So basically, Clotho is an endocrine protein. It's essentially a synthesized peptide that all the longevity research for the last four, four and a half years has been going into because they discovered that the Clotho protein, slash, endocrine hormone, was responsible for so many cellular aging systems and processes. And so if you give a call, it an optimized supplemental amount as you're aging. And again, we know that it's 7 to 12 micrograms is circulating freely in the body between 40 and as we get older, it obviously goes down as we get older. But if you give like 10 micrograms over two weeks, which is how we dose ours, so you take one shot every two weeks, you're putting your body in a range of again, where you're just simulating a younger, healthier cell. And so it improves kidney function, it improves heart function. Again, the endothelial tissue sensitivity improvement is profound. I mean, everyone feels that that's where you feel the sexual dude, your sense of smell is enhanced. Okay. Like, I've always had an insane sense of smell where I could, like, walk into a room and I would know every woman that was menstruating. And now, like, I can walk into a room and I smell like, sometimes I'm like, we gotta get out of here.
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B
Yeah, yeah. Way too overpowering. Yeah, I just heard it smoke, though. I just heard it like a month ago.
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A
So improving everything that you really want to improve. And again, all the research, there's tons of research on clients. Clotho, it tells you about what it's responsible for. So there's no reason to come off a Clotho. You would just take Clotho for the rest of your life as long as you can afford it. And it will make you younger biologically. It's that simple. And, you know, again, our chemist, Mike Farber, shout out to Mike. He's creating compounds that he thinks, you know, stack with each other from a longevity perspective. So obviously Follistatin, because, as you know, I mean, what is the number one reason people. People die and they get older? Women break their hip.
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B
Yep.
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A
And once they suffer a spiral hip fracture, everything breaks down in the central nervous system and they die. So if you could strengthen bone mineral density, strengthen musculature, strengthen tendons, which again, you know, avoid sarcopenia, avoid osteopenia, you're going to live longer. So obviously that's what follow statin is doing because it's literally improving myokine, improving contractile tissue function and form. So if you lift and you're doing all the things I love when you say that you should be able to put on two or three pounds of muscle and lose two or three pounds of fat every time you cycle it. And again, Mike doesn't really know if there is a time where you should ever come off of it, but we think that you probably should do cycles of 12 weeks, take 3 or 4 weeks off, do another 12 weeks, take 3 or 4weeks off, do another 12 weeks. It really just depends on who you are. I think a few fat person, an insulin dysregulated, metabolically deranged person, could use Follistatin at a high dose with a good microdose strategy of a glp and probably lose all their fat and get down to a very, very healthy, good, slim, trim figure. And it would be in a way that they don't suffer any of the metabolic damage or haywire that most people who use GLPs do it. Because as you know, they're very powerful.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And people do lose muscle on them, especially people that are not hormonally optimized. Optimized. They don't listen to people like you and me. They just go and they just take them. But if you're on Follow Statin and you're taking Clotho and you're using a glp, it's very unlikely you're going to lose muscle.
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B
Yeah, no, it absolutely sounds like the perfect stack. And just like Jay said on here, listen, he's the owner. I am absolutely affiliated with BLO because it's the only place that I buy my peptides and it's the only one I recommend to my patients. Honestly, I'm. I'm upfront with my patients. I'm like, you don't really want me to order this for you from our compounding pharmacy. You want to get it from Biolongevity Labs because you're going to save a lot of money. It's the same damn thing. So, yeah, biolongevity labs.com forward/doctor Amy. We're going to put that in the show notes too. And I believe the code is Dr. Amy for this. There you go. So I put that in there, too. But, Jamie, you've actually given people hope. We started with bad news, but you've provided some hope that there are these alternatives. Even if they have to wait till February, March to. To get them, they're really going to help change body composition and change longevity overall.
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A
Yeah, I mean, I'm really grateful and, you know, blessed that I ran into Mike Farber. He says he was in my audience for six years, so I believe him. But, you know, we really met each other through the Internet in April of last year. And I know I already told you that story, but it was insane because the guy was like, hey, man, I think that you and I could really help change the world. And I'm like, question mark. Like, huh. Then he sends me back another email with, like, his patent database and all the drugs and that he's formulated and everything he's been involved in, I'm like, looking through it and there's like hundreds. And, like, one of them was like, injectable Ivermectin. I'm like, holy shit. So I sent that to the partners at bll and I said, guys, I think this is a Willy Wonka moment. Yep. And they were like, holy shit. And so the rest is history. You know, he formulated these three drugs and now he's got the fourth coming, which is obviously the super retrue type. And by the way, there's a couple other ones I won't tell you right now because I just. It's theoretical right now. I'll tell you off air. But I mean, I honestly think that if we can get all these six products into, quote, unquote, the ether over the next year, I think we can change the landscape dramatically and help a lot. I mean, literally millions and millions of people. Because, Amy, I already know this. When more people find out about Clotho and Follistatin, everyone's going to be taking it. Yeah. And if it could change, call it the hormonal space for a lot of people who don't want to take therapeutic hormones. And obviously we're not saying that it replaces them. Right. Because I still think that men and women should use testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, depending on their, you know, sensitivities to each or one or all of them as they get older. And before anyone asks, Follistatin is not going to replace a deficient or dysregulated hormonal system. Yes, it could still help you build muscle, can help you burn fat. But clearly, if the hormones. And again, I know you were great at talking about this. If the hormones are dysregulated, you got bigger fish to fry.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So it's, you know, make sure that's always the first and primary route that you cover that if and when that is covered, adding in these products, Follistatin, Clotho, Slim Assist, and ultimately or eventually Lepto Gr. Which again, is super retrutide. I mean, all of those products are going to extend your life. And clearly you will live. Live leaner, longer. And as I told this woman today, and I know you and I have talked about this before, because people always ask me this question. They're like, dude, what is the one thing? And I always say the one thing is not be fat. Yeah, Right. The one thing is to be lean. And you will live statistically longer than anyone else. It's as simple as that. Because all disease comes from inflammation and all inflammation comes from too much visceral body fat and insulin resistance.
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B
Yep, yep, that's it. I'm a percentage. Agree. Totally agree. All right, so name of your book. And we're going to put all the links down the show notes for people. But name of your book and when does it come out?
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A
Yep. So the book is called Metabolic Awakening with GLP Peptides. It has an awesome cover. It has a picture of a man who transformed and a woman right next to him. That transforms. It should be out by the date of our birth, February 24th. Shout out to Pisces everywhere. So that'll be what, a month? A little less than a month away. I actually uploaded it on Saturday morning, so it was like, it'll be a month. They've already started working on it. They sent me the Amazon SEO blurb about it today. But I mean, honestly, Amy, it is a labor of love. We used no AI. It's over 720 pages. It's close to 1300 scientific references. And look, it's exhausting in some parts. And I made it so that if people don't want to get super technical, into the weeds with, like, the side effects and, like, the studies, you can just skip to the end of every chapter. Because every end of every chapter has key findings.
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B
Yep.
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A
In fact, I think what I'm going to do is I'm probably going to do a video summary of the key findings because, as you know, most people don't. They can't read.
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B
Right.
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A
They would rather. They'd be like, hey, bro, can you put it on a video? You know, so I may. I may do that. Obviously, it'll be audiobook, too. You know, with AI now I don't have to read my books. I remember back. You probably remember, too, back in the day when we had to actually record our books.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For me, I want my spin on it, but, yeah, I. I hear you. Yeah. So we will put the. All the links in the show notes. By the time this comes out, we'll be really, really close to people getting their hands on folletin and getting their hands on the book. So. Hey, I love you. I love your brain.
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A
Thank you.
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B
I just thank you for your truth, for. For living in integrity and for your truth. I love conversations with you and I appreciate you so much.
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A
And I appreciate you just as much. And honestly, I wanted to tell you, like, you made my wife feel so good about herself and I. We love you. I mean, she loves you, but I love you, too. Because, like, she let me listen to the message you left for her a couple weeks ago, and I was like, that's. I told you. I. I always used to tell Monica how amazing you were, like, way back in the day. And I know, you know, you guys just recently have met each other, like, in the last year.
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B
Yeah.
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A
But, like, I really think that you guys should probably do more stuff together because I think you guys are so aligned in so many ways.
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B
Yes.
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A
You know, so anyway, I'll leave that up to you guys to handle. But again, I love you too and I'm very grateful for our relationship.
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B
Absolutely right back at you. So everyone, thank you so much for listening and please share this episode because this needs to get out there. The truth needs to be released into the world. Whether we like it, don't like it, benefit, don't benefit. Get the truth out there and enlighten people and wake up their brains. So thank you once again, Jay and thank you for listening. The information shared on the Thyroid Fixer Podcast is intended solely for informational and educational purposes. It is not a substitute for professional medical advice, diet, diagnosis or treatment. Always consult with your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition, treatment or before making changes to your healthcare regimen, including medications, supplements or other therapies. Use of the information provided in this podcast does not establish a doctor, patient or client provider relationship between you and the host or between you and any other healthcare professionals featured on the show. Any medical opinions or statements made by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the host or affiliated parties. Statements regarding dietary supplements or health related products mentioned in this podcast have not been evaluated by the fda. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Some episodes of the Thyroid Fixer podcast may include sponsorships or affiliate links. The host may receive compensation for discussing or promoting certain products or services. Any such sponsorships or affiliations will be clearly disclosed during the episode. All opinions expressed are those of the hosts or guests and do not necessarily reflect the views of any sponsors. The inclusion of a product or service does not imply endorsement by any healthcare professional featured on this podcast.