436 - Andrew Schulz

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Tim Dillon Show - Episode 436 with Andrew Schulz

Introduction In episode 436 of The Tim Dillon Show, host Tim Dillon welcomes comedian and Netflix star Andrew Schulz as his guest. The episode, released on March 22, 2025, delves into a wide array of topics ranging from international comedy tours to intricate discussions on U.S. housing policies and societal dynamics.

1. Andrew Schulz’s Comedy Journey and Netflix Special Tim Dillon kicks off the conversation by highlighting Andrew Schulz's successful arena tours, including extensive performances in Middle Eastern countries. Dillon remarks, “You do loud in the Middle East stadiums... It’s wild” (00:43). Andrew shares his unique experience being the "only Schulz" performing internationally, emphasizing the cultural adaptability required for such tours.

2. Navigating Cultural Sensitivities in Comedy The discussion shifts to the challenges of performing comedy in diverse cultural landscapes. Andrew mentions avoiding sensitive topics such as “Mohammad” to prevent backlash, saying, “Don’t talk about mo... like, I think that’s the, like, the basic rule” (02:10). Dillon adds humorously, “I thought you meant Mohammad. I'm like, he's that big threaten you” (02:15), illustrating the delicate balance comedians must maintain.

3. Anecdote: The American Woman in Pakistan A notable highlight is the story of an American woman in Pakistan seeking $50,000 to "fix Pakistan," aiming to improve infrastructure. Dillon critiques the entitlement by stating, “That’s a crazy. We’re building airports... And she just met a dude online” (03:20). The conversation underscores the absurdity often found in extreme fundraising efforts abroad.

4. California Wildfires and Real Estate Implications Tim Dillon shares his experience photographing the aftermath of California wildfires, questioning the wisdom of rebuilding luxury homes in high-risk areas. He muses, “I don’t think they will ever. I don’t think we will ever... build another $20 million house in an area where that could happen” (07:46). This leads to a broader critique of the U.S. housing market and government policies.

5. U.S. Housing Market and Government Policies Andrew and Tim delve into the mechanics of the U.S. housing market, focusing on Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Tim explains, “They create these asset bubbles where houses are worth an absurd amount of money” (09:16), highlighting how government interventions have inflated home prices, exacerbating wealth inequality.

6. The Ruling Class and Wealth Inequality The conversation turns to the influence of the current ruling class, with Tim stating, “The richest, most powerful, politically connected people in society” (13:18). They discuss how wealth concentration among elites, including tech moguls and billionaires, perpetuates economic disparities and political manipulation.

7. Cultural Shifts in Los Angeles and the Rise of Cults Tim expresses concern over Los Angeles’s cultural evolution, predicting a rise in cult-like environments as traditional values erode. He speculates, “The culture we are right on the edge of a thriving cult environment here” (37:48), suggesting that societal instability may foster extremist groups seeking purpose amidst chaos.

8. Societal Overreach and Family Autonomy The duo critiques the overreach of public institutions into personal lives. Tim emphasizes, “You can’t tell people that their children are the property of the state” (26:44), arguing that such intrusions breed resentment and weaken family autonomy, contributing to societal fragmentation.

9. J.D. Vance and Political Philosophies Discussing political figures, Tim compares J.D. Vance to Donald Trump, labeling Vance as a "trained operator" with high emotional intelligence. He notes, “J.D. vance was out there going, the elites have destroyed the country” (21:26), reflecting on Vance’s strategic approach to addressing economic and social grievances.

10. Cultural Observations: Japan and Beyond Tim offers a critical perspective on Japanese culture, particularly its rigid social norms and impact on personal relationships. He states, “They’re not allowed to be elegant and beautiful... it is oppressive” (53:08), contrasting it with the more relaxed American approach to love and individuality.

11. China-U.S. Technological and Economic Competition A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the escalating competition between China and the U.S. in technology and AI. Tim predicts, “It could become a vassal state of China” (11:14), highlighting concerns over technological supremacy and economic dependency, while calling for strategic investment to regain competitive edge.

12. Investment Strategies and Economic Policies Andrew proposes innovative investment ideas, such as government-funded investment accounts for newborns to foster economic involvement from birth. Tim supports the concept, suggesting it could “make people more secure” (87:05), advocating for policies that reduce wealth inequality and promote broader economic participation.

13. Conclusion and Final Thoughts As the episode wraps up, Tim reflects on the importance of personal purpose and genuine interests over collective societal pressures. He encourages listeners to cultivate individual passions, stating, “What’s interesting is, like, figuring out how much you can develop yourself as a human being” (32:53). The conversation underscores the need for personal fulfillment amidst broader societal and economic challenges.

Notable Quotes:

• Tim Dillon ([00:25]): “Andrew Schultz is with us. Your new special out on Netflix right now.”
• Andrew Schultz ([01:27]): “They think it's amazing. They welcomed her.”
• Tim Dillon ([09:16]): “They create these asset bubbles where houses are worth an absurd amount of money.”
• Tim Dillon ([21:26]): “Where are the elites all over the place.”
• Andrew Schultz ([87:25]): “Compound interest... I just had money, like, sitting in a bank account.”
• Tim Dillon ([113:05]): “You need a country that works for as many people as possible.”

Conclusion Episode 436 of The Tim Dillon Show with Andrew Schulz offers a deep dive into contemporary societal issues, blending humor with incisive commentary on culture, economics, and politics. From international comedy nuances to the intricacies of the U.S. housing market and the looming China-U.S. tech rivalry, the conversation presents a multifaceted exploration of the challenges and absurdities of modern life.

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Timestamps:

• [00:00] – Introduction and initial banter
• [00:43] – Andrew's Middle Eastern tour experiences
• [02:10] – Cultural sensitivities in comedy
• [03:20] – Story of the American woman in Pakistan
• [07:46] – California wildfires and real estate
• [09:16] – U.S. housing market and GSEs
• [13:18] – Discussion on the ruling class
• [21:26] – J.D. Vance vs. Trump comparison
• [26:44] – Societal overreach and family autonomy
• [32:53] – Importance of personal purpose
• [37:48] – Cultural shifts in LA
• [53:08] – Observations on Japanese culture
• [87:05] – Investment strategies for newborns
• [113:05] – Personal development over societal pressures

Transcript

[Tim Dillon]

Take me out to the ball game. What are you doing? Did you know DirecTV has the most MLB games? So you're singing. Yeah. They put your favorite teams front and center. Right. When you turn it on, buy me some cold cuts and Flapper Jacks. Those aren't even the words. I'm allergic to peanuts.

[Andrew Schultz]

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[Tim Dillon]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Availability of RSNs varies by zip code and package.

[Tim Dillon]

Andrew Schultz is with us. Your new special out on Netflix right now.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yes, sir.

[Tim Dillon]

Title Life.

[Theo Von]

Life. Life.

[Tim Dillon]

You did a huge tour, arena tour all over the world. A lot of Middle Eastern countries.

[Andrew Schultz]

A lot.

[Tim Dillon]

You're loved there. You feel?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I'm the only Schultz.

[Tim Dillon]

You do loud in the Middle east stadiums. In, like, in the wildest. You'll be, like, in a soccer stadium in, like, Bahrain. You're like Qatar. It's wild.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, if you do a decade of, like, women are Ann swing jokes, you really can gratiate yourself.

[Tim Dillon]

A decade of. Get in the kitchen. People start to go, we like this guy. What is different? Is there anything different about doing comedy over there? Or is it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Honestly, they're all educated in America. It's, like, more similar to doing, like. You've done Europe, right?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you know how, like, there's. They're, like, aware of. But they also have their own TV shows, so, like, they. They're also not aware.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Whereas in the Middle east, like, they get all of our shit because they're not making their own TV shows really.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So they're way more aware of, you know, just random references. And, like, they all get educated here and not at fucking nyu.

[Tim Dillon]

Do you get a taught. Is there any. Because I've never done anything over there.

[Andrew Schultz]

I told them, don't tell me. So they come to you. Like, Live Nation comes to you, and then they'll come to your manager and shit, and they'll. They'll say, hey. And I just say, just don't tell me.

[Tim Dillon]

Don't say xyz.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just don't.

[Tim Dillon]

Gotcha.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, But I just don't want to.

[Tim Dillon]

Know because that was my question. Is there something where they go, don't. Hey. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, don't talk about mo. Like, I think that's, like, the. The basic rule.

[Tim Dillon]

What's that, Mom?

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, you can't.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, right. Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, like, I even had some, like.

[Tim Dillon]

I thought you meant Mohammad. I'm like, he's that big Threaten you. They're like, do not speak about him. I'm like, that's interesting. But that makes sense.

[Andrew Schultz]

But besides that, like, I had jokes about, like, Muslims and, like, that they were cool with it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

They've all. They all went to school at, like, Central Tennessee State. Like, they know. Yeah, they know. America. America.

[Tim Dillon]

Right. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

So they're. They're not at all, like, worried about it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

I was in Abu Dhabi, though, so it's maybe a little different than if you're going to, you know, Saudi Arabia.

[Tim Dillon]

I want to do. I want to just do. Because I'm not going to be able to sell the tickets you sell, but I want to do Pakistan. Like, put me in real kind of small.

[Andrew Schultz]

You got to get that black.

[Tim Dillon]

I want. I don't want any westernized. I want radical places where I can go where it's, like, real deal nightmare. Did you.

[Andrew Schultz]

Did you cover the story of the chick from Brooklyn who was in Pakistan? She was the story in Pakistan.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, you know, it's amazing. And get. Get some of her up, because that's, to me, is what the Costco family should have been. Like, that woman that, you know. You know, the Costco, obviously, the cookie people. Double choc chocolate cookie.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, the boom or whatever.

[Tim Dillon]

Fumos.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

AJ And Big justice and the whole gang to. It's my Costco family was this woman who went to meet a dude in Pakistan, and they were all being nice to her. They're buying a McDonald's. Like, the Pakistani people kind of absorbed this.

[Andrew Schultz]

They thought it was amazing.

[Tim Dillon]

They welcomed her.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And she went over to meet a man.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And then she wanted 50 grand.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

To fix Pakistan, though. She was like, give me 50 grand. I'm going to fit the roads, the railways.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

We're fixing Pakistan.

[Tim Dillon]

That's a crazy. We're building airports. And she just met a dude online. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That she catfished. And then. So when she. He was down until she pulled up.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah. He thought she was different.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

He thought she was a different thing. Yeah, yeah. This woman. Yeah. I mean, she looks so cool. I love the way she looks. She just has, like, a. Get a video of her up because she's making demands of the Pakistani government where she's like, I saw her sitting over there. Yeah. There you go. American woman who arrived in Karachi. Did they. Then they flew her home.

[Andrew Schultz]

I think they flew her to Dubai. And then something happened in Dubai.

[Tim Dillon]

She might only tolerate that for so long before, you know.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Here she is, an amazing woman.

[Andrew Schultz]

That y'all gonna give us money tomorrow.

[Tim Dillon]

Or by the ending of this week? We need 50k music. We need 50k. It's the most American thing to show up to another country and then ask for money to fix their country. There's nothing more American than showing up, going, like, I'd like to fix your country.

[Andrew Schultz]

What? That's so funny. Like, why did we react like she was doing something so crazy?

[Tim Dillon]

No, this is all we do. This is Iraq. This is Iraq everything.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is the most.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, we're just like, you need our shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You just need what we got.

[Andrew Schultz]

And we just need 100 grand. That's all.

[Tim Dillon]

We need a little money to give you what you want.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. And that's what we do. That's our game.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can I ask you a question, Tim? Have you spoken on your show about your recent photo shoot? Have you. Have you talked about it yet?

[Tim Dillon]

No. The one in California.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, the California photo shoot. Because I saw it proliferating the Internet, and I was incredibly impressed.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, people don't think of me as a model, but the definitions are changing, and I wanted to go down and see the devastation of the California wildfires. And because, again, I sold my home here. I was lucky enough not to have a house burned down, but that doesn't matter. Doesn't really matter, because, like, a casino, anything can happen to anyone at any time. I've paid taxes here. I've lived here. I've participated in his culture.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I wanted to kind of spend some time with the nightmarish reality of what fire can do. So I went down there, and the National Guard has stopped you in the Palisades, and they stop you going into Malibu, and you got to have. You got to take out your license, and you got to have a good line of.

[Andrew Schultz]

And so you had. How'd you get in? What was.

[Tim Dillon]

My producer is sitting in the front row of the front seat of my car. And. And. And he looked like a junkie because he's from California. So they look like drug addicts. They have long hair, and they have a stupid look to them, and they're all glazed over. And I. And. And I. He actually said to me, he goes, just say you're dropping me off at a sober living.

[Theo Von]

Ah.

[Tim Dillon]

And I go, wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So we stopped. The National Guard guy stopped us, and he goes, what are you doing? I said, we're taking. We're taking this kid to a sober living. And they were like, good for you. And I went, yeah, it is.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is, actually.

[Tim Dillon]

And we drove there and I just started taking some photos in the wreckage, which I think we can find pretty easily. Yeah, they were nice.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, any specific homes? Like were they. No, they were.

[Tim Dillon]

No, they were just things that I saw that caught my eye. I don't think they'll ever rebuild it there. I don't think they will ever. I don't think they will ever. Like, I mean people are saying that they'll rebuild it, but would you rebuild it? Would you build another $20 million house in an area where that could happen?

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay. All this is so interesting that you even say this. I was talking to the all in guys earlier and I think it was Chamath was saying this like, this idea that there's like a home on like 0.4 acres that's worth $100 million.

[Tim Dillon]

It's crazy.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's just these crazy ideas that we need to completely rethink, get rid of.

[Tim Dillon]

I agree with you.

[Andrew Schultz]

And they were, you know, speaking in economic terms that are like far beyond like my understanding.

[Tim Dillon]

Shit.

[Andrew Schultz]

But just this idea that like, it's.

[Tim Dillon]

Far beyond their understanding. Fair enough, people. But I'm kidding. I like them. I like those criminals.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they, they said an interesting thing. And you probably know about this from your time doing mortgages or whatever that like, like pushing the American dream of like purchasing a home. Right. And that the, I guess the US government has inflated, I'm gonna say inflated the market. But in, in an effort to push people and support that market. Essentially not letting that market fail.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Which it would suck if it would fail. Obviously. They've inflated the prices of these homes and essentially priced out the first generation of people to buy homes.

[Tim Dillon]

For sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Now they're much more expensive.

[Tim Dillon]

They've done a lot of things. It's the main thing in our country is the main dream is that everyone owns a home. Yes. So number one, we're one of the only countries with a 30 year fixed mortgage. Nobody takes a loan out and gets 30 years of stability at one rate. And the reason that we're able to do that is the government came up with these things called GSEs. Government Sponsored Entities. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And they're. And they, they give what they call an implicit guarantee.

[Andrew Schultz]

So they back it no matter what.

[Tim Dillon]

Back it. And even though it's not explicit, it's like implicit understand that it's going to be okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

It creates a security necessary for the market.

[Tim Dillon]

Exactly. So it allows a bank to go out and lend a 30 year fixed mortgage at a favorable rate. They also Depress interest rates so that people can get in the game. And then they create these asset bubbles where, like, houses are worth an absurd amount of money. And, you know, I mean, look at this. Right? So this is a car.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, people just left. This is how quickly these things came on. Yeah, that's a Bentley burnt. Go to the next photo. That's someone's house.

[Andrew Schultz]

You look slim burnt.

[Tim Dillon]

I look great in that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I really think you do.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I, I, I think that's a great photo of me. And you know what it's worth whatever happened in the background, I think so too. And look, so take a look at all of this. Here's my question, here's my issue. You really start to realize once these houses are gone, it's kind of interesting. It's like la, when Hollywood is, is kind of died, it's like, it's almost like this town is now like Cinderella. You know, it turned into the pumpkin and she's like, so what? It's a pumpkin? And you're like, no, it's supposed to be a carriage. We're supposed to believe it's a carriage.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You look at that shoreline. I don't think anything on that's worth anything.

[Andrew Schultz]

Isn't it funny?

[Tim Dillon]

You look at that and you go, what the is $80 million to live here?

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Somebody spent $70 million to live on that shoreline with that gray water and that overcast sky.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like when crypto hits zero and you just go, oh, yeah, that's how much it should be.

[Tim Dillon]

Right. And then the only reason Malibu was ever Malibu, Hollywood was in la. So you wanted to be two out or an hour or an hour and a half, depending on where you were from. The epicenter of Hollywood.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And now you're like, well, if Hollywood's not centered in LA and it doesn't have the same, then Malibu, it's still, It's Malibu. Might not be Malibu anymore.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

People might just go it. I'm gonna get, I'm gonna get a beautiful home in Mexico. I'm gonna get a beautiful home in the Islands. I'm gonna go somewhere else. Because the world now is smaller and people are more comfortable going other places. They don't need to be an hour and a half.

[Andrew Schultz]

So what do you think happens with la? Like, give me the next, like, five, ten years.

[Tim Dillon]

It becomes, it could become a vassal state of China. Meaning, like, and I'm kind of for that, where Chinese billionaires come in and just buy all the real estate.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, like Vancouver.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah, that's what it is.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Canada's the future of a lot of things where Canada, it's peaceful, it's calm.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

No one's getting rich. Yeah. It's full socialism where people get mad at me for saying that. But I don't mean in, like, the economic sense. I understand that it's capitalist, whatever, blah, blah, blah. But I mean, like, no wine bar and get pizza. Nobody cares. No one's trying to.

[Andrew Schultz]

The supermarket, there's two types of peanut butter.

[Tim Dillon]

It's a soulless corporate hell.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And you walk around and it's just like, you know that I was kidding around. Like, they should have places just called warm. It's warm in here. Like, there's nothing unique. There's nothing interesting in most parts of Canada. It's just natural beauty.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

That's kind of what I worry about with la, because there is. You know, the only thing that made LA interesting at all was the fact that it was the home of myth. It was the home of pretend.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a city with a college football team.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what Hollywood.

[Tim Dillon]

That's. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then if the football team leaves.

[Tim Dillon]

The city, it's over.

[Andrew Schultz]

So what do you think happens at Columbus, Ohio? If Ohio State leaves.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right. And Les Wexner. If Les Wexner and. And Ohio State leave is over.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give him immunity.

[Tim Dillon]

Shout out to less.

[Andrew Schultz]

Give him immunity. You think he talks?

[Theo Von]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's 90 years old.

[Theo Von]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

What does he have to lose? He's 90 years old.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, here's what they have to lose. Why let him win at 90? Why open your fat yap at 90?

[Andrew Schultz]

So you could do you die with some peace.

[Tim Dillon]

Peace.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, I don't think he wants peace.

[Andrew Schultz]

No.

[Tim Dillon]

What does he want is. I think he's gotten a piece. I think he's got more than one piece.

[Andrew Schultz]

Probably it.

[Tim Dillon]

I think these guys. And it's fascinating because if you look at the ruling class, you go, the vast majority of them have no idea what's going on. They just know that the shrimp is good.

[Andrew Schultz]

Who is the ruling class to you now?

[Tim Dillon]

Me. You, Theo Vaughn, Joe Rogan. No.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, is it still the Vanderbilts, the Rockefellers?

[Tim Dillon]

It's just, you know, the richest, most powerful, powerful politically connected people in society. Like, this guy owns a bunch of companies. He's a big political donor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

He's got a lot of friends, you know, you would.

[Theo Von]

So.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So are the Ivy League Nepo babies. Are they like. Are they masquerading as the ruling.

[Tim Dillon]

They're all like, in trouble. They came to my party in Hamptons. They don't want to be, like comedians and writers. I mean, it's. They're in trouble.

[Andrew Schultz]

So that's. That's the thing I was wondering.

[Tim Dillon]

Like I said, dropped dead. When you walked in, I go, your families killed people. They go, that's Andrew Schultz. I'm like, what happened here?

[Theo Von]

So.

[Andrew Schultz]

So there's this, like, I saw this post oldest hotel in the world. Like, in Japan. It's like, started in year 703, and it stayed in the same family for 52 generations.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you look at that, you're like, well, that's kind of impressive because you look at these American families, and within three or four generations, all the wealth is completely gone. And you're right. They all want to be comedians and writers and all this famous because they've been rich.

[Tim Dillon]

So they're bored. Yes. And they go, they want to be famous.

[Andrew Schultz]

And also, we got this thing here, which it's like, you know, follow your dreams and do whatever you want, which I think we need to push. Don't get me wrong. But there's like, a little. There's. Yeah, but what we don't have any of here is what is that thing where it's like, my dad was a cobbler and I'm a cobbler.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is that called?

[Tim Dillon]

I agree with you, but you're right. And I don't know the term for it, but it's certainly a. It's number one. It's a respect for history. It's this idea that you and your family specialize in something that you must carry on that tradition.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's, like, societal utility in it. And you're not a loser for following in your family's footsteps.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're actually doing something honorable and carrying on.

[Tim Dillon]

That's why Succession was such a good show, because the whole show is Logan looking at his firstborn son and going, you're a. You'll never be able to do what I do. You'll be eaten alive out here.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And a lot of these guys, the less waxers. Now he has kids. I'm sure they're lovely people. But he's probably looking at them going, you guys are soft.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You're never going to be able to put a Ukrainian woman in a crate. You're never going to be able to do it now. So what? So what? And it doesn't mean they're bad. They're not bad people, the kids. But I think Les Wexner looks at Them and goes. You'll never be able to do what I had to do to get here.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You're never going to have to watch. You're never going to be able to sit in a room while the mafia torture some guy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

To get him to do something like, you guys don't have it. You grew up watching Degrassi.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And your sweet kids. And I think there's part of that because.

[Andrew Schultz]

But do they want them to do it? That's the thing that.

[Tim Dillon]

No, probably not.

[Andrew Schultz]

They don't. So there's all this, like, ego in it where we're like, you're a pussy. You can't do what I do. But I really don't want you to do what I do.

[Tim Dillon]

I don't want you to have to do it. Just go and do something nice. Make your mother happy.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Because I believe, last and again, no shade. No shade. No shade at all. Shade to less flex. No shade. I think he's one of the guys who whatever he did, didn't do. There are people that I believe are operators. I don't think it's most of those people. I think most of the people are like, we're rich. This is good.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I have a. I work in this thing. I work at this bank.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

My wife is cool. That I disappear occasionally.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And I come back. I think there are guys, though, that know how things work and can make things happen. Yeah. To a degree.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're talking about, like, real power.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Those guys who, like, there's money and then there's power. Yeah. There's probably 10% of the rich people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

That are kind of going, hey, let's, you know, make something happen.

[Andrew Schultz]

Let's. Yeah. Let's move industry in a way that's favorable.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. I mean, there's probably a lot more bad money mixed in with good money than people think. I think people think. They look at drugs and weapons trafficking and human trafficking, all these things, and they kind of. In their head, they put it in one group.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

As if that family is different than the Sacklers or something.

[Tim Dillon]

Or if that money and. And Wall street money ain't all fudgeing together.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And if all this money isn't to get, like, all this money's hanging out together. Money's friends with money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, oh, so a cartel boss, you're saying, might be friends with maybe not the boss of the cartel, but whoever's managing the money at UBS for the cartel.

[Tim Dillon]

Thousand percent.

[Andrew Schultz]

He's also managing the money for the MIT endowment or all these Guys, now.

[Tim Dillon]

With the Epstein case, they all have to come out. These guys, it was just a guy in Europe that had to do it, a guy in the uk. And he goes, I. Because he was managing all the Epstein's money and it was for Credit Suisse or something, I believe. Get this, right, because I don't want to piss. I want to get killed by the right people. But they were. And they were going. You had this business relationship with. Yeah, this. Yeah, right. So this is, this is a guy here, just Staley style. Staley. And he was basically, they, they said to him, they go, hey, man, why are you still working with Jeffrey Epstein long after you knew he had all these problems? And the guy's going like the, the real answer is the money's green. Yeah, but he can't say that. He has to go, well, I don't, you know, I mean, it's hard to. Well, I mean, you know, and. Yeah, but the reality is the, the, the. The money's green began his second day in the witness box at his appeal against a proposed ban. 1.8 million pound fine, saying he had no idea about the late financier Epstein's quote, monstrous activities. So everybody's just got to run around now and say, hey, we're sorry we took the money. But everybody takes the money.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do we even care that they took it? I feel like we're just looking for somebody to punish. So now we're just going down the ladder and we're like, okay, you're. You're your assistant. You knew.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, there's. We want to, we.

[Andrew Schultz]

We want justice.

[Tim Dillon]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Another question, this is different. What are your thoughts on JD Vance?

[Tim Dillon]

Smart, very smart. Had him on the show.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, you spoke to him?

[Tim Dillon]

Had him on the show, Interviewed him. Yeah. What was your election?

[Andrew Schultz]

How prepared was he for you?

[Tim Dillon]

I think prepared like he was acutely aware. Yeah. I think J.D. vance is a guy who's wanted to be at the highest levels of political life for a very long time. Like Kamala Harris.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

They're not, they're not dissimilar in that way.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

Whereas I think Donald Trump's kind of a guy who's like just this wrecking ball of fame and you know, interesting, these raw political instincts. J.D. vance is a trained operator.

[Andrew Schultz]

Operator, Emotional intelligence through the roof.

[Tim Dillon]

Very high. Knows what he's doing. Has the tech people, has the Catholics.

[Andrew Schultz]

Disarming.

[Tim Dillon]

Disarming.

[Andrew Schultz]

Got a little bit of that. Like Clinton disarming with the accent I.

[Tim Dillon]

Think understands a lot of where what is motivating and incentivizing people right now in the political sphere.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Now what they do in the next four years and how it plays out is going to I think determine his future because he will, I think to an extent own whatever Happens.

[Andrew Schultz]

So here's the thing. What does he believe? That's my only concern with him. Like, I mean, yeah, I'm impressed with the guy that like, comes from like a really tough family situation. Broke, goes to Yale, navigates the Ivy League thing without having any sort of like familial connectivity to it and really nothing to offer in value. It's not like I can understand if he was like a brilliantly talented minority or something and There was like 10 currency there.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, wait, did he. What did he.

[Tim Dillon]

No, I'm saying if he was.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, yeah. If he was an athlete or some. Right. Manages that says some crazy about Trump, ends up being the vp. Like, clearly this guy knows how to make people feel comfortable. That's why I'm asking him, when he's with you, is there like a. In the pre. Conversation, is he doing things to disarm you?

[Tim Dillon]

No, no, it's. It's all very, I think it's very. There's, there's largely an understanding of, of the messaging and the messaging on that campaign was, from his perspective, pretty, pretty tight. Trump was all over the place. Because Trump can be all over the place. J.D. vance was out there going, the elites have destroyed the country.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Class war.

[Tim Dillon]

Class war. Yeah. They've betrayed American working people with endless immigration, bad trade deals. Yeah. The liberals are out of touch socially, culturally, with the public.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

He hit a lot of those notes. I think they were accurate at the, you know, at the time. What the solutions will be is then. That's the question. But he understands what was motivating people, just like Trump did, I think.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You know, and part of me speaking to Steve Bannon, it was very interesting when the Democratic Party became largely a party of college educated, coastal, you know, people.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

There was a pretentiousness.

[Tim Dillon]

It was a pretentiousness. He would talk down to people and it didn't mean that there aren't elites all over the place. Right. Musk is an elite. All these guys are elites. But there was a certain.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they're embarrassed about it. When you're, when you're like a little bit elitist in, like the south, there's that thing. Don't put on airs. You know that.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, there's that, but there's also. There's a clownishness that almost saves Musk from being. He looks half the time. So it's almost like he's can't. It's not that he's talking down you. Yeah, he's crazy. And I think that, like, not that And I've. I haven't said a good word about him recently. But, like, there is something about that coastal elite ism, that when you talk down to people and you people just recoil at that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, we, yeah, they hate it. And you can also, like, see the pendulum swing to the middle. Like, yeah, American culture, like country music is the most popular form.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, it just like when we were growing up, it was the heyday of the coasts, right.

[Tim Dillon]

And yeah, we.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do we call them, flyover states? Like, we really felt it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't know if you felt it growing up, but like, we even felt it in the city.

[Tim Dillon]

Right. Like, if you're from Long Island. So it's a little different. We were a little bit more.

[Andrew Schultz]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Tim Dillon]

Half and a half.

[Andrew Schultz]

It wasn't even like, Tennessee is a flyover. You're like, oh, you're from the outer boroughs.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're from something. So there was this constantly what I, I imagine, like, drove people crazy, but I guess maybe there's like an aspirational quality too. You're like, I, I'm going to get there one day or I'm gonna get that crazy house.

[Tim Dillon]

I think it, you know, it's a lack of. In. It was a little bit of a lack of investment in those regions. And we kind of letting those pe, you know, shipping their jobs overseas and then letting them kind of fester and not caring about them and then, then going, why are they all pissed?

[Andrew Schultz]

But I also think like, the, the, like letting. It's not like, I don't want to say letting.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But you know, when they dropped interest rates to like zero or whatever, and then you have all these tech guys take out loans at 0% and then dump it into the market after the crisis and then make insane amounts of money. I think the rest of America, who, like, financially illiterate like me, you have this feeling you're going like, hold on, why are they getting so rich?

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm not getting anything. And you have this runaway train where American excellence and opulence is leaving you behind. So I understand the resentment of that.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you have to find a way to include those people in it.

[Tim Dillon]

Yes. You, you, you have to have a country that works for as many people as possible, and you have to have a culture that does. Yeah, that's the other thing. You can't dictate to people deeply personal things.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think that's become apparent.

[Andrew Schultz]

What do you mean by that?

[Tim Dillon]

Meaning you can't tell People that their children are the property of the state or the education system. And, you know, for example, if a 7 year old feels weird about their gender, you know, having a public school teacher tell them how things work is never going to make people happy. People really want to parent their children. And I think that the overreach has been creating this, you know, cultural space where, like, you are. Feel like you're losing control of your family values, whatever they happen to be.

[Andrew Schultz]

Just the autonomy of your family, the.

[Tim Dillon]

Autonomy of your family to public institutions that you may or may not agree with.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then you're going to naturally resent.

[Tim Dillon]

Those public institutions and you naturally resent them. So it's a lot of it's overreach. It's like, like it's never enough. No one gets power and goes, I'm good.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's always like more.

[Theo Von]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And it happens on the right, it happens on the left. It's just people want more of the thing that they have. It's just human nature to try to go, oh, it's this way for me. Well, it's going to be this way for you.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think I've never been interested in that. Our job is a weird job because we're outside a little bit.

[Andrew Schultz]

We just get to make fun of who's in power.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's very fun.

[Tim Dillon]

We get to. Well, we also just kind of like we don't depend on the structures other people depend on.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's in a different way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

To me, we're not at a corporate job. I don't know what a human resources meeting is. I don't know what a educate college, you know, board it. Like, it's, you know, we're just kind of accountable to the people that listen and come to see the shows.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So. But people that are in those environments felt this stuff more than I did. Like, a lot of the stuff that was coming in over the last four years, they kept having meeting after meeting after meeting.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And then they go to a meeting and you would show up to your job and they'd put you in a meeting and go, all right, so tell the whole team the last time you were racist. And you'd be sitting there and your black colleague would be looking at you like, all right. And smiling. Because a lot of people were like, this isn't for us.

[Andrew Schultz]

This is hilarious.

[Tim Dillon]

So it's this weird thing. Like, I remember DiStefano was on his show. I forget. It was like the backyard bar wars or something.

[Theo Von]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And then like in the beginning of the Backyard Bar war show, where they're reviewing tiki bars built in people's backyards.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

One of the producers was said, let's have a moment of silence for Asian hate.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And he had to kind of stand there and then they would go, okay, good. All right. Anyway, this tiki bar. And I'll tell you why, bro.

[Andrew Schultz]

Every time I'm up in Canada doing like a show on, like native land or whatever, you have to do a land acknowledgment.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Have you done this? When you're.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course.

[Andrew Schultz]

And they get up there and they go, hey, this is. You actually sometimes have to say, you're like, this used to be native land or whatever.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I always felt like this feels like we're rubbing it in a little, like.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. It's a weird thing when you land in Australia. They're like, we like to give, you know, we like to acknowledge the past, present and future guardians of the land, the elders, the tribal.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you're like, isn't acknowledging it the least you can do? Like, the least. It's just for you. They're not happy with the acknowledgement.

[Tim Dillon]

The least you can do. But we're also living in a time now where it's almost like if. If that's what you want to do. All right. Yeah, I don't. Don't. Leave me alone.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Leave my money alone. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Is that your only idea? Okay, we'll do that. We're going to do that. Because the next idea is going to be, by the way, where's all your money?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And it's not going to go to help anyone. It never does. It goes to fund some bullshit thing that, you know, pays a bunch of six figure salaries to people to study problems and never solve them.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But yeah, it's like there is just a certain amount of, like, it's like you would say grace. And I'm not denigrating grace or religion or whatever, but that's kind of what it feels like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's like you say grace, then you eat. It's like, oh, we landed in Melbourne. Okay, great. We're gonna just say this. Hopefully it's good. Yeah, hopefully it's good. It's weird.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you think that. Yeah, I'm trying to think. Yeah. Like the performative measures. I wonder if that goes away.

[Tim Dillon]

I wonder if that.

[Andrew Schultz]

With this administration.

[Tim Dillon]

I think it will go away. I think a lot of that will probably fade because it's like, it. Culture moves quickly, and I think that people are just going to get bored and. Of pretending.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I think, yeah, there's an exhaustion. There's an exhaustion.

[Tim Dillon]

It's exhausting. And I think that the. Hopefully where we find ourselves is a nuanced place where people realize the world is complex, people are complex. And we go back. Like, my dream is to go back to the 90s. My dream is to go back to, like. Yeah, you're an individual. You sit on, like, a clunky big couch.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You drink a cappuccino out of a big fishbowl. You listen to music, you tell your friend about it. They don't like it as much as you do. That pisses you off a little bit. You don't let them know.

[Andrew Schultz]

You think we're too invested in politics now.

[Tim Dillon]

Not only are we too invested in politics, we're too invested in the collective. In, like, my business is your business, and you got to do what I say. And. And to me, that's uninteresting. What's interesting is, like, figuring out how much you can, you know, develop yourself as a human being. And I think that gets really lost when you're constantly in these, like, collectives with people. That's what I like about LA la still comedically, you go in, you do your spot, and you. You kind of just go, thanks, everybody. There's no hang.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And you miss that. Sometimes in New York ago, there's more of a hang in New York. But sometimes it's really good to not have 20 people in your ear. Sometimes it's good to be like, let me just use my own brain, figure out what I think and figure out what I think independent, without the social pressure of being. And social media has made that harder.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, that's a good point. Social media, it's created, like, in these, like, digital hangs that are informing your opinions about the world. And there are people who are terrified if their opinion goes against their, like, hang group or whatever.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that can. And that's kind of how you saw comedy come up, where each scene had a style.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it was kind of like everybody fit within the style. Like, I remember when everybody was doing a tell in New York. Do you remember when everybody sounded like a tell?

[Tim Dillon]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And there are people listening right now that probably know comedians who came up under a tell that might not even be familiar with a tell.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they're, whatever, gremlins off his back or whatever that is.

[Theo Von]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's interesting.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, there's a Colin Quinn school.

[Theo Von]

Yep.

[Tim Dillon]

There's the Tel school, Tree school, Patrice school. Like, there's all those different things. And, like, it's. It's impossible to not be influenced by people. I just think right now it's like, there is something nice about just going, like, being a product of. Not a political reality, but of a culture and an environment. Going like, oh, I'm from Louisiana. We eat this. This is what we believe. We like getting drunk.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

We. This is what we value. Not like, oh, I'm a fucking, like, communist, socialist, fascist, Marxist, Democrat, Republican, libertarian. Okay. Yeah. But tell me more about your life. Where'd you come from? I wonder if, like. I wonder if that's more what I'm interested in. But.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, but that's also probably more your life. Like, you're a gay guy who is. Could. I don't even want to say. You're conservative. What do you consider. Yeah, like, a gay guy who's a.

[Tim Dillon]

Nazi is really what I. That's kind of what I'm feeling.

[Andrew Schultz]

Nazi, Jew lover.

[Tim Dillon]

I like a little Jew money. Gotta watch him. Hey. Yeah, it's.

[Andrew Schultz]

You don't know where Dove is right now?

[Tim Dillon]

I love the Jews, but I feel it's like a dog at a park. It's like, are they getting into something?

[Andrew Schultz]

Huh?

[Tim Dillon]

So that's the thing. Dove is rented out. The other half of the studio right now. Someone else. There's three tailors.

[Andrew Schultz]

But. Yeah, yeah, I hear what you're saying. Like, your life is probably more individualistic.

[Tim Dillon]

I have a weird life. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I think you. You embrace that, obviously.

[Tim Dillon]

I think it's. You're not.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're not trying to conform.

[Tim Dillon]

No, And I conform to certain degrees.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, like, what? I don't think you conform in the way you dress, I don't think.

[Tim Dillon]

No, no. I'm pretty wild in that. But I think we all. We're all products of, like, I want to do well.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is that conforming?

[Tim Dillon]

No, maybe not.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, the people who reject. I mean, we talked about this a little before. Like, the people who reject, like, wanting to do well or trying. Or trying. It's just like, you're afraid of failing, and that's okay. Like, we're all afraid of failing.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Fail. Pussy. Like, don't. It's okay to try. It's okay to make a sick studio. It's okay to also have a sick one in New York.

[Tim Dillon]

It's like, right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trying is cool, and we admire that.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, like, doing the Trying is gay thing.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I can't wait till culture moves past that. Like that I think is the most un American thing in the fucking world.

[Tim Dillon]

But I, I've always thought interesting people to me are interesting and that's what makes life worth it. Not groups of people or even the political realities of like this way or that way. To me it's like I like to meet a person who's weird and like one idea doesn't correspond to the other. And you, how'd you get there from there?

[Andrew Schultz]

But are you getting that in la? I feel like there's. I feel like the no is like the epitome of group think out here.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's a star driven town. Everybody gravitates to the heat. I feel like New York is a little bit more where the misfits can kind of.

[Tim Dillon]

New York is more unique, thrive. New York is more unique. But I'll give LA this as it craters to earth like a asteroid. Yeah, it will develop more of that. Yeah, it will develop more of that. It from. For a long time it had the cockiness.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And now it doesn't. It's kind of interesting now it's depressing and horrible. But there is something interesting about seeing a town like this get really humbled.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And the people here are not. There's bad vibes everywhere. You go to a coffee shop, all these people, they just feel bad. They know they're writing a script no one will ever read. They know they're in a relationship with someone who doesn't love them. They know that being fake doesn't even help anymore. They know that it doesn't even matter. The political stuff you post on social media because nobody even cares. They know that none of it matters anymore. They're simply going through the motions. They go to Pilates, they walk out.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

They know the homeless are barely into it now. You know the homeless with the knife is like barely chasing everybody is I think going through the motions here. And it's interesting. And nobody good though.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like la, LA people, I mean America in general runs on the idea that everybody's going to be a millionaire.

[Theo Von]

Yes.

[Andrew Schultz]

And LA runs on the idea that everybody's going to be famous. And the second they stop thinking they'll be famous.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

When shit gets a little rough, that's.

[Tim Dillon]

When the cults start.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And that's why I'm still here. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Are you waiting for the cults?

[Tim Dillon]

I will put 50 people in a backyard. Don't think I will not put 50 people in a backyard. The culture we are right on the edge of a, of a thriving cult environment here. Yeah, the conditions are ripe. Yeah, the conditions are right. If you are a 20 year old actor.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Let me help you. If you're a male. We don't, we're not going to do the females in the cult. It distracts it. So it's a male cult of people in their early 20s who have dedicated their life to fitness and acting. And if it's not working out, there's other places we can go. Vibrationally with energy. Yeah, vibrationally with energy, you know, but no, there's going to be cool. I'm telling you my prediction. When you say what's going to happen in la.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Vassal state of China with the real estate. Because they're going to come in, buy all the real estate and then colts as far as the eye can see. I mean, you want cults like you. I mean cults like these fuckers will be in the backyard of a coffee shop in a. In a thought circle. There'll be rampant meditation. Some will go into Islam, bitches will have burkas walking around. We ho. They are going to find this is going to be. It's like Scientology had the whole monopoly on culture for a long time, but now it's go. It's like in Chicago they bulldozed this big project, Cabrini Green. And what happened was you had lots of smaller gangs. They put all the people that had ran that for a long time in jail. So then all the younger guys was like, well, I'll just start a gang on every street.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And then it got crazy. That's going to be cults in la. I believe the future is cults like this because people. The cult was famed. The cult was sex. The cult was money.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

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[Andrew Schultz]

What's Joshua Tree?

[Tim Dillon]

A dump. It's kind of a disk. It's where people go to take a bunch of shrooms and go, why isn't it working? I'll tell you why it's working. Palm Springs, you're bad. If you're bad, they go to commune with these entities and these entities get so bored.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's a little my thing with like the ayahuasca and shit. It seems like there's like quick fix, like you're depressed.

[Tim Dillon]

First of all, ayahuasca was not invented so you could get a Range Rover. That's not what the Incans were doing these things, ceremonies. It was not so you could strategize how to get a walk on roll on Hack Season 4. It was so that you could commune with elders that had left the physical reality that you were in. It was the whole point.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's so funny.

[Tim Dillon]

So all these people take it if.

[Andrew Schultz]

You'Re doing ayahuasca to get a job.

[Tim Dillon]

No, if your shaman is named Jessica. She's not a shaman. She's a white chick from Phoenix. You're a junkie. You're a junkie. You're doing ketamine therapy. You're a junkie. And there's nothing wrong with it. Just admit it. We get it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So people go to Joshua Tree. It's pretty and whatever, but they're going there to have some experience.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I see people from LA like, treating it as. They're like getaway. They're two hour get. I want to say, look at this.

[Tim Dillon]

Is what they want. Look at that. It's not nice getaway. It's called Iraq Bagram Air Force Base. They go out there and they take a bunch of psychedelics and then they. They communicate with some entity. And the entity goes. It's the entity so tired at this point. And they're. Because the entity is in the realm and the entity is like, hello. And then you're like, UTA is kind of. They're kind of hip pocketing me. And the entity goes, you're not bringing anything to the table. There's nothing for you. And no, it. Listen, it's a town about making the unbelievable believable. So you got to go into the desert and take a bunch of drugs. That's okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Tim Dillon]

Nothing wrong with it. No, nothing wrong with it. That's where I got banned from Airbnb. I'm. I can no longer. I can never rent an Airbnb in my life. I cannot put a property I own on Airbnb because of the two lesbians in Joshua Tree still to this day. To this day.

[Andrew Schultz]

And have you had any communication?

[Tim Dillon]

I had Rogan ask the CEO. He's like, no, we're not putting it back on.

[Theo Von]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I'm gonna change that for you.

[Tim Dillon]

I would love that. But I. I also say a lot of negative things about Airbnb and we'll continue to.

[Andrew Schultz]

All right, well, I might not change that for you.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What is this?

[Tim Dillon]

What is that? Is this Joshua Tree? Is it people tripping out?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Some guys on shrooms in a Joshua Tree. Airbnb.

[Theo Von]

Welcome.

[Andrew Schultz]

Please take a seat. Join us in the world's very first room. So we're at Petite Noir, one of our properties, and we decided to make this room into your own Sanctuary in Joshua Tree. We made this room.

[Theo Von]

Room.

[Andrew Schultz]

So people can just, you know, place.

[Tim Dillon]

Is this a joke? Is it a sketch?

[Andrew Schultz]

Enjoy the serenity and peacefulness of Joshua Tree. And it might be a polarizing thing.

[Tim Dillon]

For many people, but we know that's.

[Andrew Schultz]

How close we're getting.

[Theo Von]

Ryan.

[Andrew Schultz]

Where the sketches and the actual promotion.

[Tim Dillon]

Material, you know, I don't know what it is. I love that they put up shroom wallpaper. They're like, we've created a sanctuary. People out here are different, and that's the problem.

[Andrew Schultz]

What else have you been plugged into recently?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I'm really interested in the. What I'm really interested in now, actually, is, like, the people that are obsessed with living forever.

[Theo Von]

Oh, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And, like, superfoods and, like, the way they're all trying to hack immortality. Obviously, there's that Brian Johnson or whatever his name is, who's, like, taking his son's blood.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But there's also a lot of other, like, cottage industries popping up right now to just increase more to, like, people that are just like, I'm. I want to do it forever.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So that's kind of interesting to me. That's the ultimate hubris to me, is that you'll beat death.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

That's fun to me.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I like that. I like when human beings get silly.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And. And. And it's a little silly to me to go, I'm gonna beat death. Yeah, that's a fun one. I like that. That's interesting. I know a guy who was a producer, and now he's, like, up in, like, Santa Barbara area, and he's, like, like, you know, doing superfood stuff to try to like, hack biohack immortality and, like, you know, live to 130. So it's interesting.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

That stuff is fun to me.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I sat down with the Brian guy.

[Tim Dillon]

What did you think about him?

[Andrew Schultz]

I thought he was interesting. Like, he believes it. Like, that's the thing with a lot of these guys. Like, whether it's, you know, aliens or, like, there's. There's certain people who. They don't believe it, but they're making money on it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then there's certain people who believe it, even though we might believe they're crazy. Crazy.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I like the people who believe it a little bit more because now they're not con artists. It's kind of nice. So I don't think he's a con artist, but he is, like. I think he was, like, a pretty devout Mormon that went through some Crazy. I think he's kind of replacing that. The void that leaving the religion has created has maybe been filled with. I'm gonna live forever and help everybody else live forever.

[Tim Dillon]

That's right. And interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

I also think there's, like, there's virtue in it.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I'm gonna help everybody else be healthy and I'm gonna.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, there's also. It's God complex. It's a way to give yourself a purpose.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And a discipline and a. That's what I think a lot of people in life lack is purpose and discipline is. Is. Well, yeah, you gotta. You gotta. We. We tell people, you gotta get rich, gotta do this, you gotta do that, whatever. But we, We. We should be telling people that they should develop genuine interests.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And those interests may or may not correspond to financial gain.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And those are two different things. But you should be a person who has interests and cares about things and has hobbies and has a full life. And like, you know, you don't have to be rich. You don't have to be. You know, it's nice to have more money than less.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But like, you know, I think what happens is. It almost feels weird to me. This guy goes, I want to live forever. But. But what about the quality of life?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

What exact. For what?

[Theo Von]

Yeah, that's.

[Tim Dillon]

That's a question.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's what we asked him. It was just like, is this worth it? Like, you might live forever, but the life seems horrible.

[Tim Dillon]

It seems odd to just want to live forever without a purpose.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I understand people that go, I want to live forever because I'm finally going to do this thing. And when I. There should be something that you can accomplish where then you go, and now I'm ready to die.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

If there isn't. Life has absolutely no meaning if there's not one mountain to climb. You know what I mean? There's got to be something you can say where you go, I did it. I did it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm cool. Even though.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I'm good at the end of the day, there's got to be something there.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

What about the people that don't have an interest? I think that's the tricky thing about.

[Tim Dillon]

About.

[Andrew Schultz]

I guess maybe I don't know if it's like the dreamer culture in America is like, not everybody got a fucking dream, of course. And then they feel like losers when they don't have a dream.

[Tim Dillon]

Those people, I think, can be the happiest people in the world if they not only accept that.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But they. Then they have to Develop. Because not everyone has a dream or a purpose. That's cool. But everybody has things they like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Exactly.

[Tim Dillon]

So.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Things they like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

But it. But here, if. If the thing you like doesn't make you money, then you're just like a loser with a hobby. When in reality, you could be the happiest person on the planet.

[Tim Dillon]

You could be the happiest person on the planet.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

There are people I know who just, for whatever reason, have a few things they like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And their lives are arranged around how often they can do those things.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And some of those things are narcotics. Some of those things are cheating on.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you can't tell me they're not the happiest people.

[Tim Dillon]

Some of those things are marital infidelity. Some of them are narcotics.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Some of them are driving under the influence. Whatever you're doing. I know, but I do think you got to arrange your life. You know, like, I have friends that just love. Like, to travel. Travel to me, and this is a take that people get mad at me for. Is the most overrated thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

Oh, why?

[Tim Dillon]

I'll tell you why. I always have a reason. You never have to ask why. No, I think it's the most overrated thing. The least intelligent people I know are the most. Well traveled all the time. It's this subtle travel. It's the sub.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, absolutely love it. It's. Well, okay.

[Tim Dillon]

It's fine.

[Andrew Schultz]

But maybe you're the exception. Okay.

[Tim Dillon]

Go, go, go, go, go. And I think you probably are the exception. Most people who travel feel that it is a substitute for having a genuine personality, a genuine perspective, genuine takes. They never spend long enough in a place to learn anything valuable. It is the aesthetic of going, taking a few photos, throwing them up on social media. For example, my grandmother lived in the Same Town for 50 years, went to one or two different countries. There were 200 people at her funeral. I guarantee she had a fuller life and knew more about the world.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

From watching that town change over 50 years than somebody who takes photos. We know comics. And they'll be like, when I was in Kuala Lumpur, and I'm like, you're homeless.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I know that you traveled there, but now.

[Andrew Schultz]

So.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're talking about, like, Instagram travel, for sure.

[Tim Dillon]

A little bit of that. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, you're doing that. You're performing for people. You're doing something in the country.

[Andrew Schultz]

I like traveling in general, but I also have, like, a real curiosity about these places that for sure. So there's certain places I'm gonna go where I'm like, this looks like an awesome hotel. Like, like the Ammans are the best hotel I've ever been to in my entire life.

[Tim Dillon]

Great.

[Andrew Schultz]

Unbelievable.

[Tim Dillon]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

And. But outside of that, like, just going to these different places has been fantastic. But I'm like a nerd about travel. Like, I get like a tour guide to take me around the city and teach me everything about that. I'm in Istanbul with a tour guide, me and my wife. And we're just walking around and then I'm asking questions or writing notes.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

So, okay.

[Tim Dillon]

If that's what you do. Well, that's terribly annoying.

[Andrew Schultz]

It seems horrible and I'm sure that, like, it drives my wife crazy at times. But for me, like, if I'm diving, like when I went to Japan, right? Everybody goes to Japan. They're like, oh my God, it's the best place in the world. Japan is torture to me. It is absolute fucking torture. It is.

[Tim Dillon]

People are gonna hate this, but yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because they don't understand life. Like, that's why I've never been.

[Tim Dillon]

I. You could be right.

[Andrew Schultz]

You'll have the best pizza you've ever had in your entire life. You'll have the best steak you've ever had in your entire life. They're done with their culture now. They're just refining other culture shit. And they have this like beautiful cultural specificity where they have to make everything perfect. There's a shame in them. Like, you know how everybody in America turns 30 and they want to be a DJ? There's no shame in us. We have no shame to do something mediocre.

[Tim Dillon]

I know.

[Andrew Schultz]

Matter of fact, it's to the not try hard thing we were talking about earlier.

[Tim Dillon]

Sepu.

[Andrew Schultz]

They kill themselves if they're not they.

[Tim Dillon]

I know. I would.

[Andrew Schultz]

I would rather be dead than the shame. Yeah. Right now what they have is there is no love in the culture at all. So you go there for a few days, you take your pictures and you're like, oh, this is awesome. You see a little Hari juki girls and stuff like that. You don't really notice much. And then you leave and you're like, Japan is the coolest place ever. That you don't see a single women stop aging at 13 years old. They're not allowed to be elegant and beautiful. They can be cute. You go to every. Any clothing store. Their every skirt is at their knee or they're dressed like a cartoon character. Like it is. I've been to a bunch of places. It's by far the most sexy place I've Ever seen in my entire life. And like oppressively sex. Like, I don't even, I don't even know if a single woman in Japan has had an orgasm with a Japanese dude.

[Tim Dillon]

Dude. Okay.

[Andrew Schultz]

Because it's just not part of like, oh, we need to do that.

[Tim Dillon]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

I was speaking to these women, they were like, we went out to eat with a couple people and they're like, it's the most absurd thing you've ever like, dating here is unbelievably painful.

[Tim Dillon]

Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

They gotta like develop cultural mechanisms for them to meet people now, right? Like knocking on a wall.

[Tim Dillon]

A lot of people just go to the sex cafe and jerk off with the cat.

[Andrew Schultz]

They've just, they've like.

[Tim Dillon]

But that's what they're doing, I think. And I think that's good actually.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they've like. Yeah, they've, they've. What is it called? Uh, they've like monetized every little aspect of culture that you can eat. Oh, you need a nap. Here's a nap. Like there's no. Just like a free willingness that you might have in like in Italy or even like the Caribbean. This like natural love. You have a kid around and everybody starts coming around and saying hi and pinching a kid's cheeks in this love, right? So I'm in it. I got scolded. Me and my wife are in like an underground illegal bar and I kiss my wife and the bartender scolds it. We're at an illegal bar and she.

[Tim Dillon]

Says, you're not allowed to kiss your wife. Wife.

[Andrew Schultz]

The dude. Oh, the bartender.

[Theo Von]

Wow.

[Andrew Schultz]

So it's just this, we have this idea of it and they have a beautiful thing. You're have the best of the best.

[Tim Dillon]

But is there honor in what? I don't know, that it feels like an honor bound culture. This is honor.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I feel like people say that, but like honor for what? It's like, I don't know.

[Tim Dillon]

You're saying there's no love. Is zero love. What'd you say?

[Andrew Schultz]

Zero love.

[Tim Dillon]

But is is. Maybe there is. Is what we're recognizing as love. Like the ooey gooey American kissy huggy love. Do they have honor instead of love?

[Andrew Schultz]

And I think, I don't know, better word is sacrifice. And I think that the culture is built around sacrificing like what you want. Like maybe we're the complete opposite where we like don't want to sacrifice at all. What makes me feel good, Give it to me, inject it into me. Right, right. And just seeing. Yeah, it's so, yeah, just seeing it, it was, like, really hard to be in.

[Tim Dillon]

Can you play this? Play this woman. I want to hear what she. This is kind of interesting. I. I've never been. So I think you.

[Andrew Schultz]

You have dated American person, right?

[D]

Yes, yes, I've been a relationship with American people.

[Andrew Schultz]

Dating culture in Japan, in the States. Any differences?

[D]

Yes, I would say my Japanese ex boyfriend, I had to assume a lot of things because they are not really communicative. So we assume something, you know, testing the water. But like, in. In America, you have to say whatever you have to say. I learned myself a lot through the relationship because sometimes I have to bring up something that I don't feel comfortable with. My ex boyfriend says something that makes me feel uncomfortable, but because of that, I get to learn about myself a lot.

[Andrew Schultz]

So you're open to date Japanese person or date American person? Or do you have any preference right now after dating?

[Theo Von]

Both?

[D]

I don't think I have preferences, but I would say at least showing interest in Japanese culture or Japanese language would be really big for me. Or like, Japanese people who speak both languages. Because I'm bilingual, I don't really see myself feeling super comfortable only speaking Japanese anymore. I like. Like to mix the language. You know, it doesn't really matter. They're Japanese American, but if they're bilingual or biculture, I feel more comfortable being around them.

[Andrew Schultz]

Coming on board, bro?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, they want.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're coming on board.

[Tim Dillon]

They want to. They want the Americans. It is interesting. Where would you say your favorite place that you've gone is? You've. You've now just destroyed Japan as a loveless.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, we went to, like, Kyoto. That's another thing. Which is like a Disney World. Like, people, like, love. It's like, oh, it's ancient Japanese. You have these little geisha girls walking around. It feels so performative. Nonsense.

[Tim Dillon]

It's, like, interesting. People do love it, though, so they.

[Andrew Schultz]

Love it because they don't.

[Tim Dillon]

Right? I'm. I'm not disagreeing. I just have never.

[Andrew Schultz]

They love it. Like, they love Austin. Like, you don't really love it.

[Tim Dillon]

First of all, Austin's the greatest city in the world. Okay?

[Andrew Schultz]

I agree completely. It's amazing.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, it's great. Well, I like. Here's what I like.

[Andrew Schultz]

You come from a place that doesn't have a restaurant, and then you move there. You're like, oh, my God, the trees.

[Tim Dillon]

Are dead in all of the seasons.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's the beautiful thing about it. Why do you want to see life?

[Tim Dillon]

Sometimes trees have leaves, and then they go away. But in Austin, they're just always, always dead. I like it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And it's too windy to eat outside. A tomato fell out of my salad because of the wind. It hit me on the chest.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, that's where we should eat out. You're down one tomato, but you're also down listeria, which you would have gotten from it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, that's a good point.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, there's.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're assuming I didn't eat it.

[Tim Dillon]

The produce is not washed.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're assuming it's from Mexico.

[Tim Dillon]

It's unwashed. It's good, though. It is good. Best place, Best place.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, it depends what you want, but, like. Like, indulgence. France, 100%.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. South of France. I love the south.

[Andrew Schultz]

France is amazing. But. And it's like whatever pretentious thing. I don't give a fuck.

[Tim Dillon]

You love Italy.

[Andrew Schultz]

I love Italy, but I also like. For different reasons. Like, the French are like, hey, listen, we are done with anything that is inconvenient to us. It gotta smell the best, it's gotta taste the best, it's gotta feel the best.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's got. The bed has to be the most comfortable. I'm not gonna be inconvenienced in any way. I have to work how many days? We're not gonna do that.

[Tim Dillon]

We're not doing that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, the whole culture is built around. Make me feel good in the moment. So if you want to go someplace for three days and feel good in.

[Tim Dillon]

South of France, you can go there.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's very nice. Italy, amazing, obviously, just, like, raw passion about everything.

[Tim Dillon]

Turkey, love the history.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Turk, that's like. That's some cool. If you want to get into the history, I think that's some cool Italy.

[Tim Dillon]

You love the. All of the.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, what's Italy? What was surprising? Dessert ass.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. Because they use oil and not cream.

[Andrew Schultz]

You're such a. You're a culture for a guy who doesn't travel, you're a real culture.

[Tim Dillon]

That's why the guys at the stand, whom I love, stop with this whatever you're doing there. I've given you 50 suggestions about what desserts to do, and they still bring out, like, Nona's olive oil.

[Andrew Schultz]

Can you. Can you break this down to the people out here who might not understand? Just because the pasta and the sauce and these things are delicious doesn't mean you have understood dessert.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Remove the ego of the olive oil. We get it. It's good for your like. Or some.

[Tim Dillon]

Get it out of there.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's dessert. We're not caring about our heart. When I choose dessert, they, you know.

[Tim Dillon]

Their whole thing, I think, is it's a little tiramisu gelato, but it's not.

[Andrew Schultz]

You know, but look, you name the two things that got cream.

[Tim Dillon]

That's two things. With cream, everything else is not good.

[Andrew Schultz]

If it doesn't have milk in it, we don't want to have it.

[Tim Dillon]

By the way, here's the other thing I have. You know, are you a guy that says Italian food is in Italy? How much better is it than an American?

[Andrew Schultz]

I don't like this idea that it's like that much better.

[Tim Dillon]

That's what I agree with you.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's. This is the other thing where it's like some, we often say things, right. That, like, people will agree with us and then cheer. It's like the idea that New York doesn't have comparable food. It's like what I will say is the regular mom and pop restaurant on the side of the road in Italy is better than the regular. But if you're going to elite Italian.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I'm honestly, it's probably better in New York. It might be a crazy take, but. Right. It might be better in New York.

[Tim Dillon]

New York's your favorite city.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, it is the best. It is.

[Tim Dillon]

It's the best in the world, but.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is the best. And it's not even like an argument.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm not arguing with you, but who would.

[Andrew Schultz]

What would be the argument against it? That's what I'm trying to understand. Knowing that you can go out east if you want to.

[Tim Dillon]

There's a certain feeling in July when you dip into Lake Austin in the green. In the greenness and the brain eating amoeba swims up your nose and attaches to your brain. You have 48 hours to live.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And you spend that 48 hours on 6th street watching horse fights. Cops on horses fight with people and paralyzed frat kids who are fighting. It's just something special. It is 190 degrees and they're just having a nice refreshing slab of brisket. Oh.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, that's the perfect food when it's 190 degrees.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's. No, I. Listen, respect. I like Dallas and I like Houston and Austin. You know, it's. We, we have our. We have our things. We like to visit.

[Andrew Schultz]

Comedy.

[Tim Dillon]

I love Joe.

[Andrew Schultz]

If we didn't love comedy, we wouldn't love it. We love comedy. We love for comedy, we love to do comedy. And we love our friends, our brothers.

[Tim Dillon]

This looks insane. Here it just looks like a mate. You know, the fights on the street. It's a melee. Yeah, it's a melee.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's fun when you're 19.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah. It's like when you. It's like somebody took New Orleans and was like, hey, how about no culture? We'll just do this. I've.

[Andrew Schultz]

I've said the exact same thing. It's a cleaner New Orleans.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And what's nice about New Orleans.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Is it's dirty.

[Tim Dillon]

It's dirty.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's interesting and it's cool.

[Tim Dillon]

It's cool.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's history.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I like, I like New Orleans.

[Tim Dillon]

Where's a guy like, you think about. Do you ever think of, you know, a lot of New Yorkers have, like a spot in a Garden District and live in New Orleans, but that's too much, like, occasionally going down.

[Theo Von]

Maybe.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, I just like it. Maybe it's a visit.

[Tim Dillon]

Too many actors I know have done it. It just feels too.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's like it's hack. Now you're saying it just feels.

[Tim Dillon]

It's just. I don't know. It's a certain type of person who's doing it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

You know?

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

I just, like, I, I don't like. I feel like it is large. Like, when I lived in Texas, I was like, they don't want us here and I don't want to be here. And it's not because they have a culture that I respect and actually like.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, I like Texans.

[Tim Dillon]

I love Texas and I love their culture. And I don't. I, I feel good visiting and appreciating it. I don't want to pretend to be it.

[Andrew Schultz]

I. Yeah. What I talk about is, like, when we have these conversations where people start pretending it's like, on the level of global cities as, like, no Paris or Mexico City.

[Tim Dillon]

Psychotic people. Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Maybe in a, you know, 400 years, maybe we'll be there.

[Tim Dillon]

I like, I just, you know, I, I like cultures to be their thing and I like to appreciate. I like to go to Paris and go, man, I, I appreciate this culture, but I'm not going to go there and put on a beret.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't need.

[Tim Dillon]

That's the thing.

[Andrew Schultz]

We don't need to do that.

[Tim Dillon]

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[Andrew Schultz]

Here's a really fucking pretentious one. Yeah, but some. I mean sometimes they get it right these rich.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, a lot of times.

[Andrew Schultz]

A lot of times.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like Saint Barts. Have you done the same Barts?

[Tim Dillon]

I never have. I've seen you do it. I've never done it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And this I'm.

[Tim Dillon]

I'M like, I'm sure they've gotten it right.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I again, I tell you, like when I experience something I'm not like on some gatekeeper. Like I love being the guy who has nothing. Not nothing. Obviously I was good, so. But like compared to these billionaire motherfuckers, right. I like going to their shit and then just telling everybody about it and then ruining it.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So I like. You go like, I like to be a guy that has not. You're like a famous multi millionaire. I like to be a guy that has nothing compared to them. Finds myself.

[Andrew Schultz]

No, I mean like, I could never, like my family would never be able to go to St. Barts or something.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course.

[Andrew Schultz]

But then look at it.

[Tim Dillon]

Stunning. Pretty.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's interesting. So this island, right, it's actually kind of up. But like all the islands in Caribbean had like people there.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

And here's the one that like miraculously didn't.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

I wonder where they went.

[Theo Von]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

Anyway, like Norway owns it or something like that. Then France gets it and France just goes, yo, we're gonna make south of France on this island.

[Theo Von]

Right?

[Andrew Schultz]

But there's no indigenous population so we don't got to feel bad about like oppressing a group of people who already live here and like eliminating their culture, right? So they just made south of France on this island so that when it's cold and they can't be in south.

[Tim Dillon]

Of France, they go there.

[Andrew Schultz]

They go there.

[Tim Dillon]

I gotta try it. I've never been. It's really pretty. You would love it.

[Andrew Schultz]

Also, like the people there obviously all like. I'm sure all your fans know this now, but like the elites love you and you like roast them more than anybody on the planet. But they love you for some reason. Maybe it's like a self loathing or something.

[Tim Dillon]

Thank God. Well, I have no power to do anything to them.

[Andrew Schultz]

But they love you. They.

[Tim Dillon]

I'm not Lena Khan who's gonna bro antitrust break up their companies every time. I can't let this idiot with sunglasses say whatever he wants.

[Andrew Schultz]

Every time I go to Polo Bar in New York City.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

The whole staff is like, yo, when is Tim me coming in?

[Tim Dillon]

That's very well, that's sweet of the staff.

[Andrew Schultz]

And I keep telling them.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

That you're gonna come and then what happens?

[Tim Dillon]

No, I, I never go. I should go. Yeah, I have my weird spots. I'm a creature of habit and I go to like a few places actually.

[Andrew Schultz]

I feel like you really like that. You like.

[Tim Dillon]

I love it.

[Andrew Schultz]

You like a wasp.

[Tim Dillon]

It's important. It's important we have people who don't cry and are stoic and that. We need a little bit of that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do the Jews in the Northeast want to be WASPs?

[Tim Dillon]

Some of them, but not really. I think that the WASP culture is. Is the American culture, and people don't like to hear that, but it is very much the American culture of, like, privacy, minding your business. It's not the Irish Catholic culture. The culture that I come from is, like, wailing and screaming and crying and singing and fighting and all this.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

The WASP culture is, like, stoic, Calvinist, Protestant. Like, shut up. Own your house. Keep your shit clean. Don't be ostentatious. Like, don't drive a dumb car like me. Don't wear these dumb sunglasses. Don't be a monster. It is the way it is very much the American culture. And then it's fun to these little enclaves that are not that. Beverly Hills and this and that. But the WASP culture is the American culture. And like, Tory Burch is a. Lives out in Southampton. She's a Jew that has become a wasp.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I feel like Ralph. Ralph Lauren is another version.

[Tim Dillon]

He's another one.

[Andrew Schultz]

I feel like almost like we grew up in New York City, and there's a perception that, like, those cultures have, like, molded some of them, but we.

[Tim Dillon]

Also have the loudest and most Jewish people ever in New York.

[Andrew Schultz]

Got it. Where. Where you would say that the WASP would look at that and be like, yeah, you're causing a scene. Why are you making a big deal about this?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, it's just the. The WASP things. There's a few places that they dwell and they're. It's like Nantucket and, you know, there's.

[Andrew Schultz]

Cape Cod or whatever. Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And even there's parts of the Hamptons. Like, the Southampton Bathing corp. Is very WASPy, but the rest of Southampton isn't. And the Hamptons has kind of been colonized and taken over. And, you know, there's a little bit in the Berkshires, the WASP culture, but, like, the WAP cult, the WASP culture. And there's a little bit, you know, a little bit in. In Northern California, Santa Barbara, whatever. And there's, you know, a little bit around Georgia, Sea island, places like that. Palm Beach.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

But it's dying.

[Andrew Schultz]

It is time. But I feel like the Jews have, like, embraced it and marketed it better than the wasps ever could.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, yeah, the Jews figured out how to sell it. They figured out how to sell it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you sell, like, it's amazing wasps.

[Tim Dillon]

That I talked to Tucker about this, became drunks and they didn't. And they had these fortunes that they were living off of and they all went to these elite boarding schools and their parents had fortunes. Not billion dollar fortunes. Some of them were. But a lot of them were like a lot of money. Just enough money to not try hard and not really work. And a lot of these people just retired to Maine or wherever and just kind of like.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Moved into their summer houses and didn't keep, keep. Didn't keep pace with Jewish people and Arabs and the Chinese who now are the big money players. Sorry, Irish, not you.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

So there's just not enough ambition in it, you're saying?

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, they were. It's like the old Spanish empire, living off the largesse of having gold and stuff. It's like just. And not having to innovate and just kind of becoming decrepit. I think part of that is the story of the, of the American wasp. A lot of them, you know, the government was a lot of wasps. A lot of wasps at the CIA and Skull and Bones, and a lot of them went into politics and they went into the machinery of government. And there are some great fortunes there, but not nearly as many. And none of them are new. A lot of the new fortunes are. Are the new IPOs.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And a lot of that, that's not WASPs. They're in very traditional modes of making money, which is like banking and real estate. Insurance is kind of boring. They're not as likely to be in tech or any of the, you know, kind of the new money plays.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's weird. Like, it's almost like the generational wealth in America. Like in other countries they would just like own sugar.

[Tim Dillon]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, what happened to that in America? Like, I thought all the rich people just owned the most called a commodity.

[Tim Dillon]

Resources in America can be produced cheaply other places.

[Andrew Schultz]

So those families lost their competitive advantage.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, they also don't want to pay Americans to do it. So they're like, why are we going to pay Americans to work at these places when we can. We can ship all of this stuff? And that's a lot of what JD Vance and these guys are talking about now, how they're, you know, these tariffs. It's a long play.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

To bring back manufacturing. There's going to be a lot of blood in the water. Yeah, it's a long play. But the reality is, you know, people that don't have jobs and, you know, because they worked in those, those sectors of the economy, manufacturing being the primary one that we're Talking about have been the beneficiaries of very cheap products and goods, but it still hasn't given their lives purpose and meaning. They don't have that job. They, you know, they don't have that community. Those communities got hollowed out. Those factories got shipped overseas. You know, so I think that like, that's a big reason that. And you're, you're, you're correct to notice that that, like, where is that pride in American ownership or American made stuff? We don't really have it that we just have pride in the result, the money and however it's made.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So it is interesting. I mean, this is a very interesting thing. That's why if you own assets, if you own real estate or stocks, you've made a lot of money over the past 50 years because all those things have gone way up.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Bonds, all that. If you're somebody who makes Money on the W2, if you're a wage employee, you're not really. You haven't seen your wages increase.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So. And things have gotten more expensive. So you're getting. But the people that own stuff aren't. So I think that's the challenge is to try to balance that out.

[Andrew Schultz]

Tell me about Steve Bannon.

[Tim Dillon]

Very interesting guy. Was a rich guy. Made, made a lot of money. Is a. Has been saying he's like Bernie Sanders in the sense they've been saying the same thing for 30 years. Whether you like him or hate him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Does he want to help? Does he want to just cause a ruckus?

[Tim Dillon]

No, I think he wants to help. I think that I wouldn't agree with him on all down the line, everything, but I think he understands overall, the idea that we've created a situation with China that seems untenable, meaning that we've put ourselves in this position with Taiwan with these chips which where we are vulnerable in ways that people don't imagine we are. And I think he's recognized that outsourcing all of our manufacturing, having 90% of our antibiotics made over there and things like that have made us vulnerable in ways that people don't think we are. And you know, and this idea, the trade off of like, hey, but the shirts are cheap at Walmart, isn't a trade off. That makes sense to him and it would make sense to other people. There's smart people on the other side that says, no, it is better and here's why. We have a service sector. Go be a bartender or something. I don't know. Steve Bannon's whole point is when you take the manufacturing core out of the country, and you replace it with a gig economy of people driving Ubers and doordash and Lyft. That's the. All of those people are going to need some form of government assistance because their lives have been kind of immiserated by these conditions of, like, not being able to have a steady income at a job. And I think he says, you know, he goes, that is a big problem now. The people that make a lot of money from importing people to come into America to cut grass and do nails and babysit your kids and tutor your kids, and the tech guys who like to bring these visas, there's indentured servants, and you put five guys in a room and go, just code, I don't want to pay America. Steve Bannon, whoever calls a racist, was the only person I've ever said. I've never heard anyone say there should be more black and Hispanic people in tech. And it's a crime that there's not. That's a Steve Bannon quote. That's a Steve Bannon quote.

[Andrew Schultz]

So is America first from Bannon? Is he the.

[Tim Dillon]

I think so. I think he's the one. I think he's the. The guy that put that political philosophy into perspective in a very eloquent way. There's very few people that have done it the way he's done it.

[Andrew Schultz]

How does he feel about the current administration?

[Tim Dillon]

He's very skeptical, as I am about a lot of the tech people. He thinks they're using Trump. He thinks they were Democrats till about.

[Andrew Schultz]

Five minutes ago, which seems like they.

[Tim Dillon]

Were, and then they all became Republicans, and they all have tons of money. He likens them to oligarchs. I think he's absolutely right. And a lot of them want to, you know, go to Mars or put chips in people. A lot of them are transhumanists, and, you know, their goals are pretty radical when measured against what American people are talking about right now, which is, like, better wages or health care or whatever the case may be. A lot of people are not super invested in going to Mars. So I think Bannon thinks they're laundering. They're what they want. The Bezos, Andreessen, Musk, Bezos, Zuckerberg people are laundering their true intentions through this America first thing. And now they're all like, hey, I like bow hunting, and I think we should be less woke or whatever. But Bannon's like, no, the end game for these guys is to just suck money out of the government the way the big financial institutions did in 2008 when they put a gun to the head of George W. Bush and said we need trillions of dollars or this whole market collapses. He thinks that that moment is coming where the tech people go, we need a Marshall Plan. We need all of this tax revenue so that we can go compete with China with AI. Because the deep sea thing came out and if it is to be believed that that is true, we are behind in AI. We are losing to them with TikTok. They have a much more addictive algorithm, the biggest app in the last five years, Chinese app. So we're losing to them. So he thinks the tech people are going to go and put a gun to Trump's head and go, we need trillions of dollars now. And that is going to be financed by the taxpayers. This podcast is brought to you in part by Stash Saving and investing can feel impossible, but with Stash it's a reality. It's easy. Stash is Interested in Investing app. It's a registered investment advisor that combines automated investing with dependable financial strategies to help you reach your goals faster. They'll provide you with personalized advice on what to invest in based on your goals. Or if you want to just sit back and watch your money go to work, you can opt into their award winning expert managed portfolio that picks stocks for you. Stash has helped millions of American reach their financial goals and starts at just $3 per month. Don't let your savings sit around, make it work harder for you. Go to get stash.comtim to see how you can receive $25 towards your first stock purchase and to view your important disclosures. That's get stash.com Tim that's get.stash.com Tim paid non client endorsement, not representative of all clients and not a guarantee. Investment advisory services offered by Stash Investments llc, an SEC registered investment advisor. Investing involves risk offers subject to terms.

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[Andrew Schultz]

If the tech CEOs say we need trillions of dollars, is their goal benevolent in that they want to beat China in this AI race, or is that a Trojan horse so they could just funnel that money?

[Tim Dillon]

It's a little bit of both. I think they do want to be competitive, but they're also, they've become the wealthiest people that have ever lived. They're probably going to be trillionaires very soon. And the country is suffering from a tremendous amount of wealth inequality, and that's driving people to political extremism, to fentanyl addiction, to our cities. A lot of them are unlivable. These are problems, and I think Bannon recognizes that. You can't have, you know, 5 trillionaires deciding the fate of humanity. They also want to merge with AI. They want to get rid of human beings. They want to put chips in us that will significantly alter your humanity so that you can compete with AI. They want the end of the human race. I mean, that's truly what they want. They don't really even disguise that. So. So Bannon's a devout Catholic. I'd probably disagree with him on a few things. Some I wouldn't. But I do think that he's very interested in human beings staying human.

[Andrew Schultz]

And so do you think he's been given an unfair shake by media?

[Tim Dillon]

For sure. I mean, listen, I think everyone will always be right. I don't even think it's worth even noting. I mean, listen, listen. Everyone is going to be given an unfair shake. I give people an unfair shake. It's what the job of any of us to do. Because a fair shake would be like, oh, I'm your friend, because we're all human beings and contain multitudes or whatever. I give Gavin Newsom an unfair shake.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right?

[Tim Dillon]

I just know that the fucking beach. I like to go to the beach. It's all burnt.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So I think we all give each other an unfair shake. He's talking about issues no one's really talking about that are the Most interesting things, which is the future of human beings. And everyone's avoiding that in five years when you. I'm literally taking what he said verbatim. But when people go, there's only so many openings at Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, whatever. And do you give your kid the chip and give them the advantage? And these are really interesting questions. And do you chip? You know, maybe not yourself. Maybe you goes, I'm gonna ride this out as a human being, but it. My kids are gonna have the competitive advantage.

[Andrew Schultz]

I mean, they're already kind of doing that with Adderall or whatever. I mean, it is a massive advantage.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Have you ever taken.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, as an adult, I. I took. I never took it when I was, like, younger and, like, struggling to pay attention while taking the SATs. Yeah, the reading section, like, it's a huge advantage.

[Tim Dillon]

So that's the question that. I think the big questions that are coming up now. Now, where do we. Where do we go? The most interesting thing right now is not Russia, the Ukraine. It's not Israel, Palestine. It is and always has been China. This will be the most interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Do you believe the deep seek?

[Tim Dillon]

I don't know. I don't know enough about it. I know it's very smart people. Some of them believe that it's exaggerated.

[Andrew Schultz]

Didn't they open source it? Didn't they come out and say, hey, look at. Here's all the.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, some of them believe it's slightly exaggerated, and some of them believe, no, it's a. It's a Sputnik moment. Like, it's a real thing. That is. We are. We are way behind. And I don't. I don't know.

[Andrew Schultz]

For us to create the chips here might be a pretty stupid question, but.

[Tim Dillon]

Like, supposedly, from what I understand, it's half art, half technology. You've got to have a highly specialized training to do it. And again, everybody here wants to put their pussy on the street and be famous and be on. You know, it's the. You know, I mean, I think that it's just. We haven't steered people into that, but.

[Andrew Schultz]

There must be some sort of hardware that they have in Taiwan that, yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

We could do it here, some of it. But, I mean, it would just be. It's the same kind of question where it's like, could they set up Wall street in another city? Of course. But it's just been Wall street forever. It's like there's more that goes into it than people realize. Right. Like, I think it's. It's part cultural. It's part economic. It's part. You know, there's all kinds of things that go into the development of any industry. Could you move it to another place? Absolutely. Is Austin going to be Hollywood? Absolutely not. Hollywood will either not exist, but it will never be that. Yes, well, a few comedians get really, really big. Absolutely. And that's great. You cannot transfer in a. The movie business will just die. It's not going to Texas.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Renee Zellweger.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

Doesn't mean that Texas is a bad place. It means that they'll make some films.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're like. They make them in Atlanta. But it's not going to be an entire city.

[Tim Dillon]

No.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's revolving around.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, it's not. Maybe they'll never be another city that revolves around it again. Can. But it won't be that. You can't pick up an entire industry and just airdrop it into Bastrop, Texas and go, good luck.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

It's not the way it works. Culture develops over a very long time. You know what I mean? And I think that like, that's the whole thing. And I think that the China US Collision course is the most interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

And you think it's all going to be AI based.

[Tim Dillon]

I think it's going to be fighting for tech supremacy. I think it's going to be satellite supremacy. Fighting for the supremacy of satellites. I think we're blowing our satellites out of the fucking air. I think we're blowing theirs out. I think they're blowing ours out. I think some of those drones were them. I have good. I have good sources on some of those drones being them. Not all of them. Some of them being them.

[Andrew Schultz]

They're definitely. Did the hot air balloons or whatever.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course. I think some of those drones with them. I think they are incredibly capable. And I think so are we.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

The good news is so are we.

[Andrew Schultz]

We've got our version of the spy balloons.

[Tim Dillon]

We've got our version of. Of. Of the spy balloons.

[Andrew Schultz]

We just don't have an ability to influence culture over there like they do here.

[Tim Dillon]

They shut it down.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah. Intelligently so. And they also shut down like the tech. The. The tech guys, I feel.

[Tim Dillon]

But they weirdly need us. So it's interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

There's a dependency on our consumption. Yeah. But there's also our dependency on their creation.

[Tim Dillon]

So we're all in. We're all in this bed together, but just kind of.

[Andrew Schultz]

Good. So why we keep acting like there's like a war impending if we both need. Because there probably is like, you actually think hot war.

[Tim Dillon]

No, I Believe China feels that if they've fired a shot and Bannon talks about this, that they will have lost. They believe in insidious methods of warfare infiltrating societies. Corporate espionage is far more effective. Far more effective. That could also mean, you know, outages and you know, like electromagnetic pulse attacks, things that are hard to trace to them, things that will just make society more chaotic.

[Andrew Schultz]

But I feel like you can even do that more effectively and subversively through the social media stuff, like all of that. Yeah, like owning, like, I never thought about how powerful like our social media is disseminating like, like sexy, sugary American culture throughout the world.

[Tim Dillon]

Sure.

[Andrew Schultz]

And now that like China. Let's assume China has control of the algorithm and they can like feed different communities what they need to feed. You can sow more civil unrest. You know, you like, to me that's way more effective than a power outage. Just get people in America hating America.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, that's. They're absolutely doing that.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

And I think they'll also look at attempts to hack a grid or whatever. And I think they're also looking at corporate espionage. And they're also. I mean, I think it's all over the place.

[Andrew Schultz]

Okay, so what about this idea? Every American is born, the government puts $10,000, 2,000, whatever the it is in the S&P 500 for them. So basically open up a Vanguard account.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Right. So now every single American born is immediately invested and they can't take it out until they're 22 or something like that. Immediately invested in the success of American industry.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Andrew Schultz]

So now those like CEOs that are making all that money and that, that you're furious at and you hate that they're taking money from the regular people. Now you actually almost rooting for them because the better those companies do, the better your portfolio does. Now you're invested in the success of America.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah, I don't hate the idea of people getting some of that.

[Andrew Schultz]

I just want people to be invested.

[Tim Dillon]

In the success it. You might means test it.

[Andrew Schultz]

What does that mean?

[Tim Dillon]

Meaning like there's a lot of people who don't need that two grand grant.

[Andrew Schultz]

Even better, like do it for the people who are less fortunate, obviously. But like to me the most important thing is this huge swath of people that have kind of been forgotten about post the.

[Tim Dillon]

The question is what would 2 grand do in that span of time?

[Andrew Schultz]

Or 10 grand.

[Tim Dillon]

But yeah, and by the way, I, I'm not against that idea at all.

[Andrew Schultz]

Compound interest. I think the average American myself include I'm, like, financially illiterate. I didn't know what compound interest was and the effect. I just had money, like, sitting in a bank account. When I'd come back from, like, a funny bone every weekend, I didn't know what to do with it.

[Tim Dillon]

You're. You're. I think that's a good.

[Andrew Schultz]

You were smart. You. You knew real estate. So the second you made money, you were able to.

[Tim Dillon]

I was just in that business. I wasn't smart, but it was just. It felt like a good place to have money. Not even multiplied ridiculously. Just have it and then it could go up. But it's not, you know, crypto and all that shit is a way to make real money quick.

[Andrew Schultz]

Well, that's. I actually think what crypto is.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

On some level is Americans who feel like they've missed out on massive stock gains.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Trying to find a way to get that incredible success that they see all these other people getting.

[Tim Dillon]

Some of them are having it.

[Andrew Schultz]

And they are.

[Tim Dillon]

Some of them are having it.

[Andrew Schultz]

It's more accessible than opening up a vanguard.

[Tim Dillon]

I think that's a good idea. I think investing people. I agree with you. I think giving, whatever it is, whatever amount of money that is. I don't hate that idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

Doesn't have to be giving, but, like, how do you.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, it would be giving.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's where I would.

[Tim Dillon]

You wouldn't want.

[Andrew Schultz]

That's why I would go with it. Say again?

[Tim Dillon]

You wouldn't want it back. Yeah, 100%.

[Andrew Schultz]

But, like, I don't know.

[Tim Dillon]

I just feel like a good idea.

[Andrew Schultz]

You want patriotism. You want people to love the country. Get them invested in the success of the country. If they feel left behind, of course they're going to be resentful. When these CEOs are making $50 million a year bonuses, I think people just.

[Tim Dillon]

I agree. I think people just want a reasonable shot, lot at a good life. And I think that's gotten too difficult, and I think that you should do that. I think CEO pay is only. It bothers people in the sense that they see themselves and their families falling behind.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

So there's a way to make, you know, people, you know, more secure. I don't think they're worrying about what a CEO is making unless it's so egregious or whatever the case may be. I think the problem we play. We play a game in the financial markets where it's like, people bet their company's gonna fail. They make money off that. Like, there's all these. This secondary market where you could play a lot of games gambling. It's not invest gambling. It's. It's just. It's divorced from value. And I think a lot of people are going, hey, man, I teach your kids or I put your son or daughter in an ambulance. If they're on the road, I should be able to live. Yeah, because what you're doing, which is, you know, playing games on Wall street or whatever it has, you know, whatever, but it's like, I'm putting your kid in an ambulance.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm doing something more important.

[Tim Dillon]

In their mind.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Tim Dillon]

In their mind. It's. To me. No, but I think it's. I know, but I think it's like, it's some kind of importance. It's some kind of importance. What do you want out of the next year? You're incredibly successful. I mean, where do you go from here? Isn't it a scary place to be sold out? Arenas all over the world? There's nothing left to do. There's no place for you to go. What do you do now you're at the pinnacle.

[Andrew Schultz]

Be a dad.

[Tim Dillon]

Is it not a terrifying place to be?

[Andrew Schultz]

No, just be a dad.

[Tim Dillon]

Are you not terrified?

[Theo Von]

No.

[Tim Dillon]

This doesn't scare you?

[Theo Von]

No.

[Tim Dillon]

Aren't the worst things in the world not getting what you want and getting it. That's a line from the movie Limitless.

[Andrew Schultz]

I'm. I'm like. I don't know. I'm not like, I don't have the same bottomless pit that, like, some. Some people have.

[Tim Dillon]

Oh, we got a lot of bottomless pits. Yeah. Where it's like, oh, there's pits that have no bottom.

[Andrew Schultz]

And he just. Listen. These people complain. It's like, what are you. What are you complaining? You're. Dude, you did everything. Like, I had specific things I wanted to do. So, like, after doing them, I feel really good. And anything after that.

[Tim Dillon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

Like, oh, my God, this is like, gravy movie. I got a kid. I want to spend as much time as I can with a kid. I don't want to, like, abandon the kid. I don't want to be on the road all the time.

[Tim Dillon]

Of course not.

[Andrew Schultz]

And then. And then any other, like, creative endeavors I come up with, I just want to try to make really cool, so. But I need to, like, live a little bit. I can't be on the road all the time.

[Theo Von]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schultz]

You end up doing, like, an impression of your act if you just never stop. At least I.

[Tim Dillon]

Well, you're also. You're a dad now. You want to be a human being a little bit and just. And they have more stuff to talk about and that's very interesting.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, I think that will make the best like, I think this not. I'm not trying to like plug, but I think this thing that I made was the best thing I made because it was actually something that really impacted me and it was very important to me for sure. And I put a lot of time into it and I wasn't like, oh, I need a new hour so I can make money.

[Theo Von]

Right.

[Tim Dillon]

It was something you wanted to do.

[Andrew Schultz]

I really was excited to do it. So hopefully I take a little time off and maybe there's another thing I'm like really excited to do and that.

[Tim Dillon]

Is actually also the way Hamas feels.

[Andrew Schultz]

Yeah, that's the. I don't.

[Tim Dillon]

I think they're doing it because they love it. I think they do it because they love it. Andrew Schultz the Life Special on Netflix. Go watch it. It is great. It is different. It is awesome. And he'll be on the road again. He'll be out there. You'll see him. Go to the Polo Bar and catch him.

[Andrew Schultz]

Bye.

[Tim Dillon]

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