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Erin Andrews
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Alex Jones
Alex Jones with us, legendary broadcaster, friend of the show. I've been lucky enough to speak to him about a lot of the crazy shit that has gone on the past 10 years. And you know, we'll just come right out with it. We want to get your read on what is going on because you know from the outside, the Trump administration campaigns on exposing this cover up, blowing the lid off this cover up and then they get in office and now it seems like they're part of this cover up. So what in your estimation has happened?
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Tim Dillon
Well, all I can do is observe from the outside. I have a lot of sources. It's been said baseball and what's happening. But the fact I know is this, 15 days ago they leaked to Axios, the Justice Department, this Epstein didn't get murdered. And he, he, there wasn't human trafficking and there wasn't any blackmail and case closed. And that flies in the face of the court cases, the evidence, the intelligence connections, everything we know. And then I came out on that Monday, 14 days ago, and I said, this isn't Pam Bondi and I'm not defending her. I agree she's in over her head. Like you said she should go back to policing jet skis in Florida. But then he comes out the next day and says on true social, no, we need the FBI to move on. I told him to do this. The next day in a press conference, he chews out the reporter when they're talking about all these issues, saying how dare you dare desecrate the graves of dead kids in Texas with the floods. Shut up. And that's uncharacteristic for Trump. He looks scared, he looks concerned. And then all the other truth social posts about if you ask questions, you're with the Democrats and this is all a Democrat made up hoax and you're just idiots when all his surrogates had promised they Bring this out. He talked about bringing it out. So this is Harry Carrey. This is Sepaku, for those who don't know. In Japanese that means suicide. And I had the head of Rasmussen Polling on the best polling agency, the most accurate on record today. He said Trump has lost 14 points with independence, five points with his main base. Like Steve Bannon said a week ago, that'll lose him. Before Rasputin reported it, his dead reckoning was right. Forty seats, probably in the midterms in a year and a half. This is Trump self harming. And from all my research, you know, he knew Epstein. There were socialites, all that, but they would have already used this, that he said they had something. The Jane does they brought out turned out weren't even real people. You know, they'd said that Melania was a hooker that Epstein introduced to her at a modeling agency. We looked into that. It was Trump's modeling agency. That wasn't true. So they're kind of regurgitating all that on one hand. So why did Trump act so panicked during the headlights and you know, come out and say there is no list. Okay, there is a list, but you're still an idiot if you look at it. To. Okay, we'll have Pam Bondi release the grand jury transcripts from Ghislaine Maxwell that Comey's daughter ran the COVID up on. And the, the, you know, the, the, the Epstein case six years ago where he died in jail. So you couldn't do a bigger Streisand effect. You couldn't come out and say, I'm more guilty than what he did and my loyalties to the truth. I'm actually autistic about it. You know, I can't even if I want Trump to succeed and Democrats are my sworn enemy trying to put me in prison. I'm just like having to report this, that, that, that this is beyond insane. Yeah, and it's like Trump blowing his feet off with a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Alex Jones
Well, we know that this was not only a blackmail operation, but it was also a money laundering operation. And we know that Jeffrey Epstein was working for billionaires like Les Wexner and many others. And we know that there's been a lot of talk about the connections that Epstein had to intelligence and moving money around the world, making sums of money disappear. Is it a complete coincidence that a lot of this seemed to happen around the time that Benjamin Netanyahu paid a visit to the White House?
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Tim Dillon
Well, as usual, Tim Dillon, you're very informed. Not as a comedian. And you've nailed it. I don't, I don't want to attack Israel. I'm not a big Israel hater. But Netanyahu is, in my view, the villain of the last 25 years in Israel, in and out of power, and definitely is the cliche of Israel trying to manipulate the United States internal politics and foreign policy, particularly the Middle East. So. So definitely Netanyahu is heavily involved in gizzling Maxwell, who was convicted of, you know, human trafficking. Though the new memos and prompt says there, there is none of that. Well, then how is she convicted? Her dad, Robert Maxwell, was on record. Mossad buried Mount of Olives with, with military honors. And MI6 and Russian intelligence reportedly fell off his yacht when all this came out. And just like when he died decades ago, all of a sudden, billions of dollars was sucked out of his bank accounts. And so from my evidence and research, it's pretty conclusive. Epstein was a junior to Giz Lane, who took over the family MI6, CIA, Mossad business, because that level, they're all inter. Interconnecting, and it was more than just trafficking underage girls. That was kind of like a side or d' oeuvre or, you know, a little rider. The larger issue was money laundering. And then now the Democrats have honed in on this. I said months ago and weeks ago that, you know, Trump needs to not just call for the grand jury stuff be released or the stuff from her trial or the trial that ever happened, because Epstein died in custody there in New York in that detention center. We should demand the billions. It was 1.1 billion right after he died, but it was actually over a billion when he was in custody five and a half years ago in New York, that was sucked out of his business account. And so we know that's at the Treasury Department. So now Senator Wyden and others, as I predicted a month ago and two weeks ago before this broke, I said Trump should release it, because I can see that's where it's going. Where did the billions of dollars go right before and right after he died? And so I agree with you. Very astute. I was going to make that point. This, this isn't even so much about human trafficking as it is about the money laundering that was going on. And then you've got Bill Barr, whose dad, Donald Barr, ran the school, that Epstein, at 20, got hired with no credentials, to be the top math teacher. And then Barr was oss, CIA. His dad, Donald Barr, then Barr was CIA, kind of the head of Iran Contra operations, the White House. And then his dad, Donald Barr, writes a book about space relations, about aliens on a planet that kidnap human girls to rape them and then they train humans to enjoy it and join them in the raping of children. This is beyond crazy. And he hires Epstein to do all this. And, and, and, and so, yeah, Trump had beauty pageants and Trump had casinos and Trump had golf courses and Trump, you know, was involved in, in sporting events. And so I thought, well, they ever had these thing on Trump, they would have brought it out as they tried with a bunch of nothing murders in 2016 and 2020. But now that he acted like this, I, I think the jury's out. But where the jury is not out is on. The majority of people on the plane on the flight logs are Democrats, are big power brokers like Bill Gates. And, and, and, and we know some people in the Trump administration have been heavily implicated. I'm not going to name names. And so you nailed it when you brought up Netanyahu. So let me, if you've got time here, I have to.
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Alex Jones
We have all the time in the world. I just want to add, when Bondi said we have 10,000 hours of video, she said, we have 10,000 hours of Video. I had dinner last week with the Vice President. He told me that that was commercial pornography. They do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position. That's the party line that they're going with. If that's the case, why would Pam Bondi call it evidence? Why would she say it's evidence? She's not an idiot. She's the Attorney General. Why would she say she has files on her desk if none of these implicated anybody? It just feels like they're, they're covering something for sure, 100%. And I feel like they're, they're telling a story and the story doesn't make any sense.
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Tim Dillon
Perfectly said. So again, there's so much data I have, it would take 100 hours, but we'll go as long as you need. Here's what I'm trying to say, Bill. There are two main tracks here, okay? Incompetence by bonding and Patel and Bongino, or a mix of that, or pure cover up. But undoubtedly there's a cover up. So, so here's what we know from the timeline. And I'm not trying to gonzo journalism, write myself into the story. I just do this seven days a week. So I broke most of the different developments that happened in the last six months. So here's what we know and you give me your conclusion. Trump surrogates say they're going to release it. They get in in March, they're given this old Epstein information of that press conference with the stupid binders. And a day and a half before that happens, I have o', Boyle, who is the main, you know, one of the top FBI whistleblowers exposed so much. And he says, my, my New York sources say they've got massive Epstein videos and files that the Democrats are suppressing and not giving to Trump. And Bondi's been set up. We're meeting with her tonight, my sources are, and she's gonna expose the fact that she's been set up. The next day she comes out and on the COVID sheet of the binder says, this is phase one. I learned there's a lot more in New York with Comey's daughter and Comey running it, which we know control the fall the whole time. If they don't give it to us in 24 hours, we're gonna go grab it. 24 hours goes by, they go grab it. They, the head of the FBI in New York resigns. The guy that said, dig in, don't do it. And then they're given these files. But that's the setup, obviously. If the Democrats before Trump and after Trump and now controlled the file and James Comey and Maureen Comey controlled it, are they going to leave stuff in that is incriminating? No, it's logical to say they're going to probably drop a dime on themselves. Not that my whistleblower was bad. They're going to drop a dime. Oh, we've really got the real file. So Trump's like, yeah, go get it, grab it, get them. They get the file. And then I talked to FBI sources, multiple ones, Call Serif and others showed me the text messages. This is in late March. Days after that, indeed. The way the FBI works, the top of the FBI doesn't do investigations. They get the truckloads out of New York, they send it all over the country to field offices and say, do what you want. Then the FBI, we confirm this, looks at it, it's got all this stuff about Trump in it. Whether it's true or not, Bondi and them come back and say to Trump, it's got all this about you. Then you see the deer in the headlights interview two months ago with Bongino and Cash Patel on Fox. Really, like they're hostages. They're like, no, you can trust us. He killed himself. And Epstein acted alone and didn't do anything. And case closed. And I said, this Before Trump said it a week, a week and a half ago, I said Trump has learned or this is a big possibility, they've spiked it with poison pills. They're not just going to take out bad stuff about them. They're going to add all the innuendo, all the Jane does, all the stuff recycled in. Then Trump comes out for social last Saturday, eight, nine days ago, Saturday before last and says hey, they control the file. Not saying EPC doesn't exist or wasn't bad. That's how the media spun it. He says they put a bunch of bull in there which I was even able to predict. So that's one track of what it is and why he acted so scared and hysterical. The other track is he was a big playboy, he was hanging out with Epstein, he was running beauty pageants. Maybe he did some stuff he wasn't supposed to. He had some deep. And now they're bringing out. So now the jury's out on Trump. Now he's got to be suspect. But, but the same people that run Crossfire, Hurricane, the fake Russia Gate, Obama, Clapper, Comey Brennan that did all this, who are known fake frauds, who are known to be all over the Epstein file, who are known controlling it on the US side. Anything they tell me suspect. So I don't believe it right away. Then you bring up Netanyahu and that's the key. So anytime Assad is going to operate like this on domestic soil, they're going to need a CIA agreement and pass this goes on for decades. And then you've got Maxwell's dad, that was MI6 Mossad on record and KGB triple agent, highest level. The rural agents are triple level or your quadruple level. So you have Trump. Yeah, grab it, do it. He gets it. Oh my God, I've been set up. Then he's mad at Netanyahu. I know from behind the scenes sources we're not attacking Iran. Months ago Netanyahu shows up. Suddenly Trump 180s searching whatever Netanyahu wants and we know who has the full file of all the hidden cameras and all the stuff at Little island in, you know there in, in the Caribbean, at his facility in Zorro Ranch, New Mexico in New York. And it's and we had ehu Barack there photographed dozens of times, you know in 30 something meetings there in New York as all of a sudden you get a 180 as soon as Netanyahu shows up. Now Trump learns what's in the FBI file right after that. Then Netanyahu comes and tells Him. And I don't believe from my sources, and this is high level FBI, that it is Trump, but it's people in his administration, including a top financial advisor that's heavily involved. Trump wants to get his agenda through of jobs, 15 trillion investment coming in, 3 trillion already here. He wants to stop World War III. I'm not defending this. I'm saying the thinking. I've been told. Yeah. And so he goes, oh, my God, this is a giant new Russia gate set up. He comes out and says to my list, to his supporters, would I be crazy?
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Alex Jones
When you say a top financial advisor, are we, are we talking about Epstein's neighbor?
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Tim Dillon
We are.
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Alex Jones
Okay, interesting. And that makes sense.
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Tim Dillon
Here's how informed you are. And I'm not trying to be a mean person. Yeah. Because he may even be innocent. We were talking about Ludnick.
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Alex Jones
That's right, Howard Ludnick. Don't sue me. Kidding.
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Tim Dillon
Well, it's just, it's beyond suing. This is like, yeah, they're going to find me in the pool.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, you're right.
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Tim Dillon
Now, let's just say you brought it out. You're smart to figure it out. Nobody else was. I'm sure it's true. Yeah. They're blackmailing him with Ludnick. I've confirmed that from the FBI. And it's not that love did anything wrong. But yeah, and yeah, here's, here's my question.
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Alex Jones
We have just Lane Maxwell sitting in a jail, I believe, in Tallahassee in Florida. We have Alex Acosta, who supposedly there was an unsourced or privately sourced, unnamed sourced person that Vicky Ward quoted saying, Alex Acosta said, I was told to stand down. Epstein belonged to intelligence. That is why he was not prosecuted.
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Tim Dillon
That was the federal, federal, federal prosecutor. Right.
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Alex Jones
To the fullest extent of the law. Why do we not? And by we, I mean the Trump administration, the American people demand that Maxwell testifies in front of Congress and that Alexander Acosta testifies in front of Congress about whatever this oper. I think me and you have a good idea about what it was, but it was, it's a vile operation. It destroyed the lives of children. No civilized society can exist ignoring things like this. And it also opens up many questions about a financial system that we barely understand that involves oligarchs, criminals, human traffickers, drug smugglers, and our own political class. By the way, this is why Nancy Pelosi has been so quiet about this, let's be very honest. Because she has no problem with, you know, obviously making lots and lots of money and Lots of our politicians, I mean, Barack Obama, you know, these $30 million homes in Martha's Vineyard or whatever they are. Why do we demand that they testify?
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Tim Dillon
Alex? Well, and you know, Tim, I don't do this in regular people interview me. I'm not kissing your ass. I was about to go before you said Ghislaine Maxwell testify. I was about to go to this. So that's where I was going next. Yeah, you know, here's the issue with that. She's in prison for human trafficking and you've got these lawyers connected to Epstein saying months ago, Alan Dershowitz, Trump better pardon her. And even before Elon came out and said, hey, Trump's in the list, you're never going to see it. Which then has a lot more credibility now because of this. It doesn't mean Trump did anything wrong, but he's implicated, he's embarrassed by it. The issue with Ghislaine Maxwell is she's in prison for decades. So you can't trust somebody to testify who has already not implicated other people. But now that she's convicted in prison, will maybe she'll say that I was involved. I'm being sarcastic, but my point is, is that pressure mounts for Ghislaine Maxwell to be released to testify before Congress. I am of the thought that full disclosure is the way to go. From all my research and sources, Trump wasn't actually involved in any of this and they're going to be able to continue to blackmail that they don't. So I think justice be done by the heavens fall. But the thinking is if they implicate all these big tech titans like Bill Gates that was heavily involved in all this and his wife left him over it and said he should have to answer those questions. I'm not saying what he did. If all these Silicon Valley people come out and things Trump's being told, this will crash the stock market, this will bring down America. This is a setup and I'm not defending that decision, but I can logically, from a sick position, get it. I agree with you. I think the world will think we're back in business if we actually exercise all this, these demons, because this stuff's going all over the place as well. The EU has been caught in giant pedophile.
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Alex Jones
This is driving people insane. And I think it's justifiably so that people at the highest levels can get away with stuff like this and that it can be covered up forever. And I think a lot of people.
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Tim Dillon
It'S the two tiered justice system. Right. It's emblematic of everything.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, it's emblematic of everything. What I told Vance, I said, if you don't disclose everything, you're done. I mean, nobody will support you guys. You are fully and completely part of this cover up. If everything doesn't come out, I think it paralyzes their presidency.
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Tim Dillon
And what advance say he believe?
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Alex Jones
He agrees with me. He agrees with me. You know, like it, it really is.
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Tim Dillon
David, Mike Johnson came out a week ago and said release it.
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Alex Jones
I mean he agrees with me. The, the, the calls are coming from inside the house. We know that Benjamin Netanyahu shows up. We, we then immediately see an about face which is completely crazy by the President of the United States. And again, I'm not a paranoid Israel hater, but their activity over the last six months is completely insane. They're bombing churches, they're starving people, they're shooting people that are, they bomb.
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Tim Dillon
They bombed Syria today. Here's the deal.
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Alex Jones
Yeah.
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Tim Dillon
I've studied who the main threats. Us, Communist China, big financial interest. I'm the guy that everybody said was defending Israel. No, I was just saying they're not the most important bloc. They're varied. But absolutely, because we've knocked out the Democrats to a great extent because they've cut off the USAID money and the deep state money, Israel with Netanyahu sees a power vacuum and is definitely trying a hostile takeover of the administration. So that, that, that's 100% going on.
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Alex Jones
Are you worried about these connections with, with Palantir? With Able using technology to merge Palantir technology to merge all of the different departments so that if you have information on you with the IRS that's now merging with, you know, your arrest record and if you've attended a protest and whatever the case may be, we see in the UK people are getting sent to jail for tweets we see all over the world. And we know of course the Chinese social credit score system. This feels a lot like a precursor to that. Steve Bannon has said that he thinks that these tech people are the biggest threat to the stability of the United States going forward because they have their own agendas that they're cloaking in this MAGA movement. Do you share that view and do you think that Trump has allowed these people to get a little too close and exercise a little too much power in the White House?
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Tim Dillon
Yes, I think Palantir is a threat. And then I've been criticized by people that just want to try to make scores by being nuanced about it. Let's explain what's happening. Oracle, who's also in with Trump, which is a bigger threat than Larry Ellison's. Way bigger than Palantir, Microsoft and Amazon. People think of Amazon as packages. No, Amazon runs more servers for the CIA, the NSA than anybody. Then Microsoft is second. This is like a fact. People can look this up. They've already integrated all the databases. They already have all that. Peter Thiel and Alex Karp. Who said Alex Karp? I help the EU censor conservatives. You know, my main threat is Christian conservatives. Just like trouble starting to fight. So. Right. I'm not an apologist for Palantir, but to my listeners, I've got to give them a real answer. So you notice the New York Times, the Washington Post last year were all about Palantir. And it doesn't mean Palantir isn't an issue. It's that. Why does everybody know about that? Because the corporate media started it. So Palantir has come to Trump and is a big backer of ants. Not saying he's bad either.
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Alex Jones
Right.
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Tim Dillon
And they have said to Trump, we know how to come in and tell you what's really going on. Let us have the Ring of Mordor and we will fix all your problems. And my point is, they are a small little tech who wants to come in and has the technology do what's already been done.
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Alex Jones
Right.
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Tim Dillon
So the idea that this isn't already integrated, that. It is. It is. It is Amazon, Google and these other.
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Alex Jones
Groups, Amazon, Alphabet, you know, those company. Whatever it is. Meta.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, I mean. Yeah, I mean, Alphabet's above Google. Exactly. Right. So. So it's Google. It's Google. It's, it's, it's, it's Amazon. It's all. Yeah, so. So they're the ones that are currently doing it. It's not like it's coming. So I just told people in their lexicons, like you have flashcards for a kid. Here's a tiger, here's a bear, here's a bunny rabbit. And now they go, here's Palantir. Ooh, that's the big tech takeover. No, that's a group that thought with their angles with Trump, they could come in and be put in charge of the thing that's already there. So I'm telling people, no, it's not that it's coming. It's already there. But Palantir is just as dangerous as Google or as its parent company, Alphabet, or as Microsoft or as Amazon. It's Microsoft, Google, Amazon. And I'm saying, if you look at the statistics, they're 90% of it. The grid's already there. Palantir is a usurper, an upstart, a pretender to the throne, trying to come in to give Trump control. Because the US Government's been directing the Googles and the Microsoft's and the Amazons to already create a few system that we already have. Does that make sense?
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Alex Jones
It absolutely makes sense. The reason that Palantir is always a red flag for me is it when Peter Thiel's asked things like, should the human race exist? And he kind of stutters and stammers and doesn't really seem to have a. That one seems easy. And he doesn't really have an answer for that. He's also suggested things like maybe people went to Epstein's island because they wanted Epstein's, like, advice on their divorce and stuff.
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Tim Dillon
It just says. He also says, you know, we need to do what I'm doing to stop the Antichrist. Right.
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Alex Jones
So it just feels to me that, yes, they are part of a very large group of companies I don't trust. But it is, it is worth noting that this company is, you know, they want to start helping to surveil Americans more than they already are. I mean, that's sort of, or, or, or help, you know, concentrate the information or help merge, let's be clear.
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Tim Dillon
Oh, you said a key point. You hit a key point. Google 6, 7 years ago wouldn't even give the Pentagon access to AI. They give China that. So that's the key just hit. Palantir is offering to Trump. But like, look at Denver already has US funded license plate scanners. Right. But a month ago, when they were to use them to rusty legals, they turned it off. Yeah. So Palantir is offering to use the grid that's already in place for Trump's aim. So what I'm trying to say is it's not a defensive Palantir, it's that we're way. We're saying we're 2025, we're in the year 20, 2050. I'm saying it's already there. The Palantir thing is a fight about Trump coming and saying, okay, I'll hire you to explain how this works, to give me access. I'm saying it's already all there.
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Alex Jones
No, and I understand that and I think that I listen, I don't trust Elon Musk. I don't trust any of the. I don't trust Sam Altman. I don't trust. I don't trust Mark Zuckerberg. It's not because I believe they're inherently evil people. Although they say some things that are inherently evil. I believe their agendas are radically different than if you took an American off the street and said what are the things you value? Very few of them are going to go, we want to terraform Mars and merge with AI and destroy the human race and all of this stuff. So I do think that the tech community, it's important to have a thriving tech community, but it's important to not turn our country into a digital police state or a Chinese style surveillance state. And I think a lot of those people would probably want to create something like that in our society. You know, that does seem like they would prefer that.
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Tim Dillon
I want your viewers and listeners understand something. Let's just say Palantir is the most evil thing on earth ever seen. It is. Is the devil. Why do we all know about Palantir.
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Alex Jones
And not the other?
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Tim Dillon
We don't know.
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Alex Jones
Yes, you're right.
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Tim Dillon
We don't know about Microsoft, Google and Amazon that are 90 plus percent of the grid that's already there. Right. So we're all learning about surveillance and AI and social credit score and biometrics and. And social credit. We're already doing it. They're just bidding to get into the trough as a junior and so I oppose what Palantir is doing and everyone else I oppose.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, everyone else, of course.
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Tim Dillon
I'm just saying it's become a distraction into only them.
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Alex Jones
Understood. Disclosure, your sources, people that, you know, how damaging is this if this all comes out? Do we think that this is a watershed moment for the United States and you know, Israel? Does this come out that this is a what many people feel it is, which is a Mossad CIA blackmail up or is this basically not. We're never going to definitively know that. Or will we?
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Tim Dillon
Will we.
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Alex Jones
We have a lot of conjecture. We have a lot gun to my head. That's what I believe it was. There's enough evidence in my book to say that's what it was. But is the disclosure not only will it be embarrassing to people, but is it going to suggest that one of our allies has been using these types of methods to gain leverage and control over our politicians? And is that one of the big reasons that they do not want it out?
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Tim Dillon
Well, that's all true. I mean, look, Michael Winsky was the Mossad operative. Really? Yeah. Yeah, let's come out. They were tapping the White House. So. And they don't want to hit us on some big corruption deal because a bunch of Israeli operatives are involved in all the corruption with our people as well.
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Alex Jones
Right.
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Tim Dillon
They want to hit you on some limited little sexual thing. And so, yeah, no, I mean, absolutely. Epstein was mainly a Mossad operative. Ghislaine Maxwell, her dad, all Mossad on record. The media just keeps this debate going. Is it Mossad? Is it Mossad? Well, he wasn't officially Mossad. Any real operative at the highest level is an operative. People think it was an operative. Lower level. No. A lot of times, they're the boss. But he himself was just a manager because Lane was the case manager. This is all basically come out. And this is the leverage that Israel is using over Trump right now to do all this. And my information is it's not Trump himself. He's just all this other stuff to try to embarrass him. Beauty pageants, you know, flying twice on his plane from New York to Palm Beach. And again, Trump was all, release it, release it. Till he got that meeting with Netanyahu that you nail. But what's more important is this has captured the public's understanding and imagination. And so it's all about integrity. It's all about getting rid of the deep state and Trump joining with it and defending it. I had my show today. Mark Mitchell, who is the. Yeah, hands down, you know, they have the best record daily elections, not just here, but around the world from Rasputin Polling. And, you know, he said, I'm not a Republican Democrat, but I care about the voters and freedom in the future. And he said, I mean, again, the exact numbers, like 14 points lost with independence.
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Alex Jones
It's a collapse.
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Tim Dillon
5, 6.
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Alex Jones
It's a collapse.
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Tim Dillon
It's a collapse. 5%, 6 points. Lost his most hardcore base. I mean, this is a disaster. Steve Bannon, without seeing polls a week and a half ago, said, we'll lose 40 seats.
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Alex Jones
It's an. Also, it's overshadowing another interesting and important story. That's that Comey, you know, Brennan Clapper, all these guys essentially participated in what was kind of an attempted coup with, you know, manufacturing this evidence that Trump was installed by Russia.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, Crossfire Hurricane. And. And that's the key. That was my whole show today, was Crossfire Hurricane is proven. Crossfire Hurricane is confirmed that not just Obama giving orders to Clapper, BRENNAN Comey, before 2016, they knew Trump was running. They put him under surveillance. The documents are out. They created the sealed dossier. They didn't just let the intelligence out and then not report it was fake. They created it. As Tulsi Gabbard said Last night on Fox. We already have the documents. That's true.
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Alex Jones
Obama was, is a CIA operative from birth. His mother worked for usaid. His mother was born in Hawaii. I mean, because, oh, Obama weirdly comes up all the time as this guy. And I always think these politicians are middlemen. And I imagine that Barack Obama would be like a similar politician, like a Clinton type where like they know what's.
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Tim Dillon
Going on, but they're not, they're not driving it.
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Alex Jones
Yeah.
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Tim Dillon
Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton come out of the CIA and, and the Dixie Mafia and the Chicago Mafia. There's whole films made by Joel Gilbert which I researched. It's well known. Obama's grandfather was the head of the CIA in Hawaii. His mother was a CIA sex operative. His real father was not in Kenya, but was the head of the Communist Party usa. Heather, major newspapers. Frank Marshall Davis.
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Alex Jones
Where do you think he was born? If you had to take a guess.
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Tim Dillon
He was born in Hawaii.
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Alex Jones
Oh, he was, yeah.
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Tim Dillon
It was Obama in four different videos when he was a senator. Yeah. Saying I was born in Kenya. I'm back at my home country as a fake cover story. And then that guy, you know that sub Saharan Africa, that looked nothing like him. You look at Frank Marshall Davis, it's him. And he wrote in Dreams of My Fathers. I spent summers with Frank Marshall Davis in Hawaii. He was friends with my grandfather. He felt like my real father. And it's Frank Marshall Davis. Then his mother in Bette Davis. What's that woman with the dark hair? The famous bombshell 50s Rita Hayworth. No, it's the one that did soft porn. It'll pop my head in a minute. The point is they did that style. And in the famous porn that Frank Marshall Davis released in the same house, that's in photos of Obama with the same couch with the same pictures with his mom and Frank Marshall Davis visiting Frank Marshall Davis, it's her with women on the very same Betty Page. It's the very same couch. And it's in famous private porn collections that his mother was, you know, in all of this. Well, she was a famous CIA sex operative.
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Alex Jones
So you're, you're saying that Obama is in it from an intelligence family?
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Tim Dillon
Well, you said CIA baby.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, no, that, but that's what I feel as well. I mean, I, I, I.
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Tim Dillon
And then, and then Frank Marshall Davis, the main publisher of communist newspapers world, you know, all over the US Is a famous pornographer. Right. Obama says in dreams, my father's, he was like my father. I stayed with him in the summers. He was friends with my grandfather and his dad's the famous CIA banker.
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Alex Jones
Well, I know people in Chicago that have said that Obama essentially had led kind of a secret double life his entire life. And they were shocked when he was. Was polling so well in the. In the election. Obviously, he was a brilliant politician, but that the media didn't go near any of his secret life the way they didn't go. You know, there's a lot of people that obviously the media is told to stand down, but I know people in Chicago, these large financial institutions that knew him, that were shocked that more details about his private life weren't emerging.
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Tim Dillon
Well, yeah, and, you know, he says every young boy, you know, needs a gay man to help lead him. Now, I'm not against gay people or anything, but, I mean, it's well known how he's being controlled. And so you very astutely said, a baby of the CIA, he is literally a Manchurian Candidate.
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Alex Jones
People with secrets are seemingly the people that always lead us, it seems to be whether you're. If you're in the closet, if you have a problem with your drugs or money or something like that, leverage is always being used on different people. So to control them, because you're compromised a thousand percent. So Trump, in my estimation, has to just. Just let everything out, no matter how embarrassing it is.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, I mean, he does. And I mean, look, the Democrats are trying to put me in prison. They're openly horrible people. Trump represents a lot of good constituents. I don't want Trump to fail. You know, I got accused by a lot of influencers and people in the last few weeks. I'm on every channel and does nothing for me to be on cnn, ABC News, I care less. They have tiny audiences. I don't like to have to come tell the truth on air and have them spin it and use it against Trump and maga. I. MAGA is great overall and is definitely a force for good. And Robert F. Kennedy Jr. And Tulsi Gabbard and Tom Homan, and I mean, they're doing amazing things. And so I don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. I don't do this because I can attack Trump, which I never do, and then, you know, get publicity out of it. I did it because I have to keep my integrity. And I don't know if Trump can course correct from this. I had the head of Raspberry polling on the day, you know, some of us bounced back. But, you know, you look at bombing Iran, you look at Israel, you look at Kennedy. Got it. Where they were taking fluoride out of the water. The DOJ blocked the lawsuit that banned it to keep fluoride in the water. Kennedy blocked basically glyphosate. The Trump administration's keeping it. It's almost like the Trump admin brought in Kennedy so he can menace the chemical companies in big pharma and then big pharma will just come make bigger donations. And, and I don't know.
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Alex Jones
I'm going to, I'm going to say something very interesting. I think obviously poison food in America needs to be dealt with, but Kennedy was talking a lot about these vaccines were mandated and had a lot of adverse effects. Pam Bondi is now not following up the Pfizer thing, you know, maybe know more about than I do, but I.
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Tim Dillon
Saw that her and the White House chief of staff run now only 10 years ago, didn't exist. The biggest consulting firm and their main clients, Pfizer.
- [38:51]
Alex Jones
So Pam Bondi and Susie Wiles, who's the White House chief of staff, run a consulting firm and their biggest client is Pfizer. Well, that's not great.
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Tim Dillon
And even today the lawyers came out, all the people involved, you know, even in Congress, and said that Kennedy's not even being consulted now. So people get pissed at Kennedy. He's like, yeah, we're banning that MRI shot and then the White House somehow overrides it. And I'm not. Yeah, it's, it's, it's Kennedy from, from.
- [39:29]
Alex Jones
People that I know. I think Kennedy feels like he's frustrated. I also think, yes, get the poison food out. But also Kennedy was coming in there saying, listen, we, we had these mandatory vaccines. A lot of them had adverse health effects. And now that's not being talked about. Everything's about food diet now, by the way. Get the food die out, sure. But let's not indemnify companies like Pfizer and all these people going forward. I mean, big, big pharma, it's the biggest.
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Tim Dillon
I mean, I mean, I mean, the big HHS doctor Robert Malone, a veteran of RNA that violently exposed it all, he came out today and said, no, I've seen the documents. The FDA and all of it authorized these new MRNA's. They literally didn't even consult Kennedy. And somebody giving Kennedy a pass, I mean, this is going on. So it's a big giant operation. Susie Wells gave him the organizational skills that Trump needed to win. So it's the devil you need, the devil you don't need. But who was she the chief of staff for in his last election? Where does she live part of the year? She works for Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Alex Jones
Susie. She. She works for Netanyahu.
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Tim Dillon
She was his chief of staff and his campaign manager.
- [40:48]
Alex Jones
Interesting. I did not know that we.
- [40:51]
Tim Dillon
That keeps coming up. Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, listen, I'm not anti Israel.
- [40:58]
Alex Jones
No, no, listen, we don't even have to keep saying that we're not anti Israel for it.
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Tim Dillon
I just, I have responsibility.
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Alex Jones
You do.
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Tim Dillon
Like a Jack in the box Netanyahu. Jack in the box Netanyahu. Remember Netanyahu, back during the COVID thing, said, I want Israel to be the headquarters of human testing. We don't know what this is going to do. We offer the Israeli people to be guinea pigs to be tested on. Well, that violates the Nuremberg Code. So I'm not anti Israel. I'm saying, of course, pull it up. Netanyahu says Israel's a guinea pig, and I think Netanyahu's a villain.
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Alex Jones
I have great friends in Israel and in America that are Jewish people that are religious. Some aren't. And a lot of them think what's going on in Gaza is atrocious and that Netanyahu is a criminal and should stand trial. But it is interesting to see that, you know, this administration is starting to spin out of control. It feels like that.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah. That's a good way to see it. The first five months or so, it was, like, almost perfectly on track for what. And then it just started going sideways, and now it's moving very quickly, the wrong direction, and I have no interest in them failing. My God, the Democrats are literally trying to put me in prison and suing me and all this other. I mean, I, I, I mean, it's like my lifeboat I'm in is Trump, and then he's poking holes in the bottom of the boat. And then, I don't want to be enemies with Susie Walls. I don't want to be enemies. And I can tell you a lot more. I mean, I've, you know, I've had the White House call up and be like, the last week, what do you want? Yeah, I'm like, oh, you think I'm doing all this just to get something? I've never asked for anything. I want you to do what you were elected to do. Yeah, so. So it went from, you're bad. We're gonna have our influencers attack you two weeks ago to, what do you want?
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Alex Jones
Yeah, well, they wanted to go away. They want this to go away. And you, I've been listening to you since I'm 12 years old on The GCN network. I remember listening to you before 9 11, by the way. And then direct. No, no GCN network. We're talking like fucking 1999.
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Tim Dillon
We're talking eight bit Internet.
- [43:09]
Alex Jones
I mean, unbelievable. And that's, I believe that was a network you're on. Was gcn?
- [43:15]
Tim Dillon
Yes. Yeah.
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Alex Jones
So that's how long I've been listening to you. And that's why I bring you in when stuff like this happens, because I often get confused because we all basically say to ourselves, what the hell's going on? It's almost like the gaslighting is so crazy because it's like you start, they start going like, who said Epstein was a blackmail operation? They're like, who said any of this? And you go, why would you suggest he's connected to the Mossad or anything? And you go, wait a minute, hold on. We, this has all been kind of decided. There's mountains of evidence. So to, to, to attack supporters or, you know, people that are just raising questions, of course you're going to have to go out and say, hey guys, we know what you're doing. For whatever reason, you want this to go away. It's not going to go away until you disclose the information you have.
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Tim Dillon
And that's the problem. The CIA was involved, MI6 was involved. Mossad was the main group from all our evidence. And now that they've implicated people in Trump's circle, he's doubled down. He's totally pick at it. It's a strength and a weakness. And so the polls show it from raspiness and all the other polls show it. This is a death spiral and it's so sad. And you got the Democrats that are openly with 350,000 kids, smuggled across a bunch of them in sex slavery, slave labor. You have Tom home and they already saved 35,000 kids, prosecute over a thousand human travelers. All this good's happening and I don't want to see this happen. But the way this works, and I'm surmising this, I don't know this is true. But if Trump makes a deal, the deep state to leave him alone on the Epstein thing, it's implicates intelligence agencies. They go, okay, you got to have Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and all you go out and say there's nothing there. And this is what Kyle Seraphin, really smart FBI whistleblower said months ago on my show. They're being given bad advice to go out and do stuff that discredits them by the very same people. Acting like they're on their side. So it looks like they made a deal to deep six this for whatever reason. And then the very same media and Democrats then turn on them and now hanging around their neck. And notice the Democrats say they want Epstein declassified. They only want stuff with Trump in it. I say release it all. Release it all.
- [45:32]
Alex Jones
Release it all is the only way. And maybe depose Alex Acosta and let's find out who told him that.
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Tim Dillon
And that's the again U.S. attorney that prosecuted him 15 years ago that said he was told go easy Intelligence.
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Alex Jones
Yes. I mean, let's find out. And you know, at the end of the day, I think that, you know, I'm not naive. You're not naive. We know that there's serious players behind the scenes that are exerting pressure on all kinds of people. And I know that you can't wave a magic wand and make the deep state go away. And you can't, you know, throw them all in jail overnight. But if there's no accountability for this type of, of, of criminal activity that everybody knows about, the, the lack of, of credibility is going to eat away at not only this administration, but at the government and the justice system in this country.
- [46:26]
Tim Dillon
No, you're right. You're absolutely, you've hit the key here. Go as long as you want.
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Alex Jones
We're gonna wrap up in a few minutes.
- [46:32]
Tim Dillon
Yeah, my bladder is about to bust. Can I just run pee and I'll come right back?
- [46:35]
Alex Jones
We'll run pee and come back.
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Tim Dillon
I'll just pee on air. I know, go.
- [46:39]
Alex Jones
You can run and pee and I'll vamp while you're there.
- [46:41]
Tim Dillon
I'm good at, I talk my whole.
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Alex Jones
In Moscow, I learned how to do this with you. I just talk. I don't even have guests.
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Tim Dillon
No, no, no. But what I was going to say is just like the made up stuff, Trump being peed on, that was all fake. So the other side, I have such no belief in the, in, in, in the establishment media because they've lied so much. But back in one minute. Yeah, yeah, as long as you want. I got more stuff to add.
- [47:02]
Alex Jones
Go pee.
- [47:02]
Tim Dillon
I just can't think.
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Alex Jones
I understand. Alex Jones is taking a pe pee break, ladies and gentlemen. And now it's time to tell you about Athletic Greens, the company that dropped me for use for talking about Alex Jones. I did one ad on my show about athletic greens many years ago and we did it from Alex's studio and they dropped me. So here's what I'd like to say about Athletic Greens. You know, one day my friend took athletic greens and he died. He put athletic greens in a water bottle and shook it up, and then he drank it, and now he's dead. Athletic greens killed my friend. I don't know why it happened. Maybe it was an athletic greens. Maybe it was just some type of a random medical emergency, but I bet it was the greens. He was frothing at the mouth. He goes, oh, no, what's happening? And it was green. Stuff was coming out of his mouth. He was going, I can't believe it. It's athletic greens. I'm dying. It's killing me. I knew it was fake. This is as he's dying. He goes, I knew it was fake. Anyway, you don't get healthy by putting a vial of green shit in water. It's a lifestyle. I knew it was fake. I just thought I'd take the easy way out. And then he just started going, and he was having a seizure because of athletic greens. Now I'm just saying, they can sue me. I'll sue him back. But I'm just saying, it's comedy show. Everything I'm saying is a joke. Of course. Obviously. Full disclaimer. Did kill my friend. They did drop me. We tried to get them back. I performed at Carnegie Hall. We said, how about you guys come? We'll give you free tickets to my show. We're sorry. Who do you think's taking athletic greens? You think they're all offended by Alex Jones? Who do you think these people are that drink this? You think you're offended by this? All right, thank you. Come. Thank you. Welcome back, Alex Jones. I was just on an advertiser who.
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Tim Dillon
Dropped me because we're talking about athletic greens. I took athletic greens and my dick got three feet longer.
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Alex Jones
No, they dropped me. I drew. They dropped me because I said athletic greens on the show with you years ago.
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Tim Dillon
I got an airpay salmon. I ran.
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Alex Jones
Okay, all right.
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Tim Dillon
But back to the incredible thing you just said. Yes, yes. This is a benchmark deciding issue because they killed Epstein. All the coverage people learned about it, and then now Trump made a big issue, and I'm sitting the obvious here. So him saying, don't look at it. Don't talk about it. He's not that stupid to do something like that. And. And. And. And so the whole thing makes no sense. It is a disaster. We need change. He's brought in a bunch of good people. It's so sad. But because of integrity issues, I can't sit here and play along with it. And all the evidence points towards Mossad blackmailing Trump. And I just wonder how we're supposed to get out of this. And I hope he can fix it, because normally a incumbent president that wins the first election, they lose the House and Senate. The numbers, according to the pollsters, we were trending to win. He was getting, you know, record numbers with everybody.
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Alex Jones
A lot of this fundraising came from very big donors, people like Miriam Adelson and stuff like that, that have a lot of political connections in Israel, obviously. And I think there's probably pressure from that, from that, from that avenue as well, of people that spent a lot of money to help Trump get elected, that are probably telling him, let's make this go away. Let's not have this be an embarrassment or worse.
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Tim Dillon
Video cut out of you there. Sorry. Yeah.
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Alex Jones
Did you hear me?
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, he's coming back.
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Alex Jones
Am I back?
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Tim Dillon
You are back.
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Alex Jones
Okay.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, most of that. What is that? Is that a devil on your. Is that Hillary Clinton on your. On your.
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Alex Jones
No, this is a lobster. It's the summer.
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Tim Dillon
See, that's like a.
- [50:57]
Alex Jones
It's the summer.
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Tim Dillon
It's like those ink. Yeah, it's like those ink blots. See, what does that say about me? I don't see a lobster. I see a devil.
- [51:07]
Alex Jones
I like. It's the summer. So when, when the lobster's over and it goes to the fall, we put a pumpkin.
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Tim Dillon
I like it.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, it's. We try to make it nice while we talk about international, you know, sex trafficking, cults and this, that and the other thing. By the way, Hollywood stands to probably get very embarrassed if this comes out, too, because this is not just political. There's probably a lot of big people in Hollywood.
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Tim Dillon
Let's talk about who we know is heavily involved. You had a clear blackmailing operation against high tech people, science people, vaccines, genetic engineers, Harvard massive Hollywood, the Clinton Steve Jobs wives, the Atlantic Monthly owner, Atlantic magazine, all those people. And that's my big frustration is that we know they're all in there. We know it's all going on. And by Trump doing this, he's now joining with them. And he did it in such a terrible way as saying, you're not part of our organization. If you question this, which then backs up the left's claim that MAGA is a cult. Well, I'm not in a cult, so how are you processing this? Because I'm not a lesser two evils guy. But overall, Trump administration is a lot better. I think the Democrats. But at the same time, there's an integrity issue because I become an accomplice, by extension, Terry, you might join in on the COVID up.
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Alex Jones
Agreed. I process it the same way you process it. I think securing the border, having an account, you know, getting, having the American working class regain ground and, and trying to provide a standard of living for people and not opening the borders. They've done that in the uk. It's caused tremendous strife. They're now putting people in jail for tweeting about social and cultural issues in that country.
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Tim Dillon
He's gotten 15 trillion committed. 5 trillion is already flooded in. I mean, he got in this new economic deliberate line here. The Federal Reserve. Yeah. The establishment won't give him interest cuts. I mean. Yeah, I mean, he is still the maverick. Here's what I know, and I'll give you the inside baseball. And I hate to do this.
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Alex Jones
Do it.
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Tim Dillon
I started hearing this about a year ago from people really close to Trump. He was 78 then. He's 79 now. And then all the trials, all the pressure, all the demonization, he doesn't crack up. But at a certain point, he becomes a really grumpy old man. And now I knew this months ago and I kind of mentioned it, but I didn't want to attack him and give them fodder. But it isn't issues that incriminate him. It's not Epstein stuff. It's not something that could be a problem. They'll bring in some side issue and he'll scream at them and say, I only want to hear about stopping World War Three, bringing jobs back, securing the border and defeating election fraud. And he gets really mad. Now, he didn't used to do that. And other people that talked to him a week and a half ago saying, sir, you got to stop defending this and you got to stop the Epstein cover up. And these people he's known for 30 years, 50 years, he'll just say, fuck you then and hang up on him or kick him out of the Oval Office. So it's not just that he blew up about this. He's been. And it's good to have a guy that doesn't give a crap at a certain point for fighting corruption, but when he doesn't give a crap about his constituents, we're kind of experiencing, you know, what the establishment's experiencing. So I love him doing that to them, but with us, the optics are really bad. Who is he listening to?
- [54:22]
Alex Jones
Who is he listening to? People say Stephen Miller and Susie Wiles have the most outsized influence in the administration. Do you think that's true?
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Tim Dillon
Yeah. I'm not defending Stephen Miller, but for my sources, he basically has the beat on the border and domestic stuff. It's. It's Susie Wiles and, and I hate to demonize her, you know, I'm not trying to come after her. I was warned up front she was bad news and anybody that wants anything has to go through her. I just know her consultancy firm has gone from small to number one.
- [54:57]
Alex Jones
And, And Bondi and her good buddies, very tight. Is that the case?
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Tim Dillon
Absolutely. Well, then they were the same consultancy, right?
- [55:07]
Alex Jones
Is it weird that they have a huge consultant firm, but they're also both in the White House?
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Tim Dillon
It's a major conflict of interest.
- [55:16]
Alex Jones
Yeah, seems so.
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Tim Dillon
So it's not quite. It's not quite Hunter Biden level stuff or 10% for the big guy. And again, I'm not trying to say they're the only problem. It's just that it. Look, look, a lot of it is. It's complex, it's huge. A lot's going on. And Trump is trying to be pragmatic, but if he thought he could make deals with the deep state and like, sir, the CIA and Mossad are implicated. Let's shut this down. They walk into the trap and now, oh, by the way, that stuff we raided for the Democrats, it's all about you. And it doesn't mean it's real. I already predicted it's recycled. You know, it's recycled BS about Trump. And that's why, I think that's why.
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Alex Jones
We'Re seeing there's any part of him that says, they'll kill me because they tried to. You know, they maybe tried to in Pennsylvania, you know, where very few people are satisfied with the explanation of who that, you know, would be assassin was Thomas Matthew Crooks or, you know, he had no online footprint. We didn't know that much about him. The media has only recently started to kind of put out a narrative about him, but that was clearly a big brush with death. Do you think that there's any fear in that sense that Trump goes, you know, that people are playing for keeps?
- [56:34]
Tim Dillon
I mean, I think that's at the end of the day, I mean, I mean, I think overall, Trump wants success for America and he's pragmatically trying to pick the best direction. But there's a new video out that's viral everywhere about. Look, on July 13th. You saw that?
- [56:48]
Alex Jones
Yes.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah. On July 13th, you see the film crew being waved up after he shot it shows his production. Well, anybody that's been a presidential speech of Trump or Obama or any of them, which I've been to. Or Bush W or any of them. I've been to all those. You have the Secret Service directing, press up, directing, press back. They tell you when you can be there, when you can. He gets shot, he falls down, they wave him back, he pops back up. They let the press in. These are TV productions. So people seeing that production and then thinking, oh, it's fake. No, the whole thing is a production. But I know ballistics, I know rifles. They didn't have real people shooting at him. And then they just perfectly grazed his ear. And you can't fake real like that. You can't fake the acoustics of another shooter or a guy getting killed or other people getting shot in the background. I mean, I mean, the greatest directors all fused together. Steven Spielberg, you know, Francis Ford Coppola.
- [57:57]
Alex Jones
Anybody, Right, Scorsese.
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Tim Dillon
Nobody, nobody can do that. Nobody can, you know, carry that out. That was real. His ear got grazed. These Democrats hold up the cartridges in the bullet and go, something this big hit, you know, it's this big. And when it grazes you, that's exactly what it does. And because, long story short, I got shot with.22 caliber pellet when I was 11, and it hit my ear and butt a lot, but the hole was closing like a day. Just went right through the side. I had the same thing happen. Kid named Mike Hamby shot me. It was an accident. But the point was, is that my grandmother's ranch? The point is, no, no, that was real. And all the law fair and all the indictments and the mug shot and the persecution I've gone through was real. And because of that failing and because of what happened, they're now trying to spin that and make it go away. But people then see, oh, they push the media back. Well, there, if you go to any debate or presidential deal, they tell the media come forward, they tell them to come back. And then once Trump pops back up, they're like, okay, he's okay. You come back forward because they're producers, they're, they're, they're filmmakers that run this. They're trying to get iconic shots for videos are put out for Trump. And so they all seem shot, they get scared and run back. Then he pops back up. It's normal, okay? They creep back up, bring the cameras back up. You got a bunch of Pulitzer Prize winning photographers there. But they've got to do what the Secret Service says. So people go, oh, that's a production. Well, when Trump goes, the NFL game or the World cup game, that's a production doesn't mean the game didn't play. Doesn't mean it wasn't real. So. So yeah, you know, it is a production, but it's a production that is of a real event that's happening.
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Alex Jones
Before you go, what do you think Netanyahu wants? I mean, they bomb Syria today, the Gaza things, insane. They seem to be hinting that they're not done with Iran. I've heard from people and there's articles out. I mean, it's just not a secret that they don't, I don't think they feel like enough damage was done. They want to do more. What do you think ultimately, in Trump's four years, they would like to see, Netanyahu would like to see. Like, what would be their goal here? Would it be to recon, you know, to reconfigure Gaza in the image of what they would want? I imagine that's on the table. Is it another attack on Iran? What do you think it is?
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Tim Dillon
Well, this I'm an expert on. How much time do I have any.
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Alex Jones
As much as you want.
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Tim Dillon
Oh, all right. Benjamin Netanyahu has been in power off and on for 25 years. And previously he represented the most right wing, aggressive Israelis. And when Yasha Ramin got in their way, it's on record, group associated with him killed him. And now they've gotten Israel so radical, we can call it right wing is what the media calls it. Just, let's just say Israeli supremacist.
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Alex Jones
Yeah.
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Tim Dillon
So you, you, you know, I'm trying to compare it to Hitler, but the closest thing you're going to get is like racial supremacy. You know, we're, we're over.
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Alex Jones
It's ironic for sure.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah, yeah. We're the master. Right? Well, look, they're going to drive a group out of their homes into the desert. That's what Pharaoh did the Jews 3,000 years ago. I mean, it's like the pilgrims, you know, that was wrong to the Jews. It's wrong here. I'm not saying the Muslims a little angel cakes are perfect either. Believe me, they're not little angel cakes.
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Alex Jones
But I get it.
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Tim Dillon
Yeah. The optics are not good. Right. And so a lot of the Israeli leadership was like, you know, quit. Even Michael Savage is American citizen, great guy, pro Israel, but he came on my show two weeks ago and said Netanyahu needs to go. Right. According to all his sources, I mean, they've taken Israel from being one of the most popular countries in the world to the most. Did you know Israel and international polls is the most unpopular country in the world.
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Alex Jones
Yeah, they've had a rough couple of years in terms of their.
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Tim Dillon
What's going on with Netanyahu. Netanyahu, until three years ago, on record, you pull up articles, was the main funder of Hamas. Right. Israel set up Hamas and funded their creation to discredit the plo. So if you got one group you don't like, put a new more radical group in that challenges them and then people forget about it later and you blow them up next month. Like I said eight months ago, when, when NATO, Turkey and Israel on record overthrew Assad after 18 years of trying, or 17 years, that I said, I bet in six months they're trying to overthrow the new Al Qaeda later. Well, Israel's now bombing, trying to take him out, which is a one dimensional thing. Sounds good. I don't like the leader of Al Qaeda in ethically cleansing non radical Muslims and Christians and Druze and others. But Israel literally ran field hospitals for Al Qaeda and bombed for them and put them in as a destabilizing force. Just like Netanyahu's predecessors, Likudniks, when they were in power, put Hama, created Hamas. So then you have October 7th and this stand down, this little armed camp, incredible Israeli intelligence, one of the best militaries on earth. That's not hype. Seven and a half hours. Nobody responds to Hamas breaking across the fence and grabbing all these Jews, right? I mean, my God, you fart in Israel, they'll shoot a missile up your ass. So, and Netanyahu admitted there was a stand down. The army blamed him, he blamed them. That was, you know, a couple of years ago. He said, when the war is over, we'll investigate. Well, for Netanyahu, in power 25 years, serious heart problems, indicted. He stays in power by having crises. And so it really comes down to him and his party. And they don't. Can't have elections for five months under emergency declaration. They can't even have elections because of this emergency. So he stands to gain. The weapons makers stand again. With billions a week in weapons being spent. Iran's no angel cake. I'm not them. But, but, but if you go back to Wesley Clark twenty something years ago, he goes to the Pentagon, which is declassified now they go the next five years, we're taking out seven countries. Iran's the last. Well, they got Syria eight months ago. The last one is Iran. And it's not just about getting that Gaza Strip, right under international law, Israel gets 12 miles out and they've got one of the biggest gas fields on Undrilled, because the conflict, I mean, it's more rich than, you know, off the coast of Texas or Louisiana. And so there's trillions of dollars. And they've already built a pipeline up through there that goes up to Turkey. So Turkey is involved. Erdogan acts like he doesn't like Netanyahu. Those guys are on this. They're Siamese twins. They're joined at the hip. And so it's all. And the US Is involved, wants to act like it's not because it wants to stop the Belt and road out of China and all the way through into Russia and Europe. They want this other pipeline they're building up into Europe out of there. And there's gas all the way up from Israel, Lebanon, Syria, all the way. And so Israel wants to build the main industrial shipping hub for shipping liquid natural gas. And the pipeline up to Europe, it's got probably more gas than fricking Alaska. I mean, it's got more gas than Kuwait, more gas than, you know, areas there where Russia intersects with Ukraine. This is one of the richest gas fields in the world. Trillions and trillions of pure liquid natural gas and oil. That's an air surface, by the way. It's not deep. And so it is a gold mine. So you hear Jared Kushner, oh, I'm going to build condos here. And you know these weird AI videos with Trump, oh, it's going to be so beautiful. And Saudi Arabia wants to come in and offers to pay to make it all nice. And you give all the Palestinians jobs. That's all a cover. The hotels in the. And the swimming pools and casinos are nothing. It's that hub. Because the southern hub, you can say, well, there's natural gas all the way from right there in the Mediterranean up to Syria, but you got to have the hub at the start of it for the pipeline to come up out of Israel. Right? So this is not even debated. So we're talking about. They're saying like, $7 trillion in current numbers just off the coast of Gaza. You add it all up, it's over 20 trillion. You can leverage that. Then you have the military control. Israel is never actually, other than that, by Tel Aviv, they've never had a proper port. And so this is about strategic alliances and control and blocking China. So I don't want to just blame Israel and all the. Israel. Yeah, no, no, for sure. It's all about the US Acts like Trump. Oh, please do a deal with Gaza. Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb. The next Week, you know, eight years ago. Yeah. Does it again. Oh, please don't hit Gaza. Blah, blah, blah. No, the US and its interests are absolutely aligned with Israel.
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Alex Jones
Well, no, yeah, and in that sense, I think you're right. What is the end game in the Ukraine? We are still cutting big checks. We're still spending a lot of money. It seems like we're trying to get that country nuked that. I mean, hopefully there'll be a deal in place. The Vice President said he thought that was a very big possibility, but it seems like the policy of America is to push Putin into a corner until he uses some type of tactical nuclear weapon. I mean, I can't see any other endgame here.
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Tim Dillon
Well, as usual, your analysis just, you know yourself is accurate. The head of France's finance, the head of their military, the head of Sweden, Germany, the UK have all said the last two years, you look this up. They said our business plan is a 20 to 30 year conventional war with Russia that will bankrupt Russia, will finally break Russia up in five parts. Well, that didn't work. Russia's outperforming weapons production, conventional munitions, artillery shells, three to one, drones, three to one. So that's not working. And so the EU's collapsed financially. It wants this. And you've got just like Vietnam turned out with McNamara. He later admitted this before he died in the documentary. Oh, it's just a big war game. And to make money, they wanted a place where they could have won very quickly. Bombing the north, they could have won, you know, destroying it, but they never did that because it was just a way to pump. I mean, LBJ made like back then, like 20 billion now like 3 billion himself. Right. Just off dredging out the ocean and, you know, putting in ports. So it's all a giant war game. And you've had for 15 years the US and Soros overthrowing governments, Ukraine stirring it up, poking the Russians, and then they don't care as long as they can keep it going. They've laundered $300 billion in just the last few years. And it's all a big weapons laboratory. And so to them, they don't care. And it's. I mean, they're talking about 30% of the EU budget now going to Ukraine, psychotic for the next. Yeah, so. So a war is a big black hole that you can launder money through. And at the end of the day, Putin's more popular than ever, that he's in a war. Like, it's not like the Iranians and Netanyahu go wink Wink. The mullahs are super unpopular now. They're popular. You know, Putin was already popular. He's even more popular, right? It's not like they go, wink, wink. But war is the health of the state. You know, if you go back to the movie on Henry VIII called the King, which is a true story, he finds out at the end that his ministers have a rebellion in England with the Scots and the Irish and the Welsh, which is all true story. These letters are public now. They've been public for hundreds of years. And his French cousin, they're really all just Norman from William the Conqueror. They're not even French or British. They're all Vikings that conquered France and England. And they don't tell the new young king because his other brother, you know, died. So they had to have him when his dad died. This is a true story. And, and, and, and, and so he goes and has to have a war with France, and all these, all his buddies die. He wins. And this minister comes to the end and says, you did a really good job. We staged all this. That's why he, you know, he meets with the King of France, even though he killed his son. He goes, great job. You're really a real leader. And then he meets with the head minister, and the Exchequer head goes, we staged all this for you, sir. Now you've put down all the rebellions. You are now the true king of England. And he kills him, which is a true story. He pulls a dagger out because his best friend died. It stabs him to death. Learning this whole thing was staged. Real people died. It was a real war, but it was totally staged to put down rebellions in France and in England. And now that's how the real world works.
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Alex Jones
Psychotic. Unfortunate. I hope the Trump administration comes clean. It's the only way forward. People in this country need. You cannot have the abuse of children go unchecked. You cannot let foreign governments have leverage over our government and influence that, you know, makes us, you know, completely ignore all of our principles. Not to say that we are passive or that we are little angel cakes, as you would say. We're certainly not. But everybody, we need to get all the information out. And I appreciate you. I think you're doing an amazing job. And I, I, I, I love that you, you, you still come on my show. And I really appreciate you and a.
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Tim Dillon
Lot of people I've been begging to come on your show. I wish you come to Austin. But let me just add this final point.
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Alex Jones
Yes.
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Tim Dillon
These Machiavellians think, because they think in all this twisted 10D chess that they're smart. No, it's sick. You already. You said it earlier. You know this big economist Martin Armstrong says we're very close to nuclear war. Ran corporation does we understand conquest. We understand duplicitous. But with nuclear weapons and with biological weapons and with 9 billion people, we have to stop the conquest economy. We've got to have real peace. Yeah. And we keep hearing about all this peace, but it's not. It's got to stop because it could get out of control. You ask, will there be nuclear war? Yes. On the threat escalation ladder, it goes from 1 to like 44. In the rand corporation, everybody uses the same model. We're like 35 now. A few more. Remember two years ago, Biden said we can't give F16s and Abrams tanks. That's World War 3 because it goes up the escalation ladder. We're now to Trump met with Zelensky two weeks ago and said, maybe we'll bomb Moscow so they'll stop. You see, it just goes and goes and goes, going.
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Alex Jones
And the elites would rather destroy the world than. Than sacrifice their positions of power.
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Tim Dillon
Exactly. They've got their bunkers like Dr. Strangelove. Based on a true story. When Curtis LeMay and the chairman of the joint Staff llemser come to the movie came out in 64, made in 63. It's all declassified. And I know Vivian Kubrick and all the inside stuff, but it's just a film's main on this is a final thing. Curtis lemay, the deputy head of the joints of staff and the joints of staff Llama, sir. Look this up, folks. They come in the last year of the Eisenhower administration. Supreme ally Commander super hardcore, you know, was mad at the Germans and said, well, there's only food for other people. We'll starve 2 million to death. Wasn't like he was a. At the end of the war, they come to him. They say, sir, we're gonna bomb our own military bases and shoot down our own planes and we're gonna blame the Russians. And said, the Cubans did it. We've got a plan to sneak attack Russia. And we think we'll only lose 20 million Americans in their nuclear response. But if we wait a few years under mutually assured destruction, they'll be able to take us out. And he fired them. Yeah. And then they tried to come back and Kennedy fired them. That's Operation Northwoods. The movie. Dr. Strangelove was leaked basically to Kubrick. And he made the Film to show what happened. They were literally in meetings talking about mine shafts and how he get gross domestic product up. Even in the worst case scenario. They knocked out most of the population. And they came to Eisenhower and then he tried again. Guess who the adjunct of L.L. emonster was like 27? Donald Rumsfeld. Wow. So, so when you see 911 in the project American Century it's the same people. And then Dick Cheney he brought in. So this is literally the ghost of ll Emit, sir. And the ghost of, of, of Curtis LeMay. The movie Dr. Strangelove is a documentary of what almost happened. The Cuban Missile Crisis declassified. The US put Nike missiles on the border of Russia in several places including Turkey. Medium range nukes. Russia put nukes there. I'm not a Russian or been to Russia. The point is is that they were all told in school books oh the Russians put medium range nukes in Cuba because they're assholes. No. Khrushchev was on TV saying get your missiles out. But our media was so controlled, nobody knew we put missiles on their border. So it's the same story. It's not the average American's bad. It's not that Eisenhower is bad or Kennedy was bad. We have these crazy power mad generals and now what have we done? We've put missiles on Russia's border. That's what Russia said a year ago. They said you've already are hitting us every day with medium range hypersonic missiles. We can't stop. If you hit us two or three a day, we won't respond. But if we see a large aeronautic attack of hundreds or thousands of missiles, we have to believe it's a nuclear stick attack. Because that's how they can shoot. Mach 5, Mach 10. They can take out all the Russian bases. Most of Russia's weapons are in the west. Most of the Russians live in the West. They say if you shoot a bunch of these, we got to go at nuke you because we've got to believe it's a nuclear sneak attack. That's why we're so close. You ask are we close to nuclear war? The atomic Energy, you know scientist group out of Chicago, the most respected that looks, has said we are the closest to nuclear war. The CLO. Remember you heard two minutes to midnight. It used to be two minutes to midnight. We're something like 20 seconds to nuclear war now. Yeah. So with the Cuban Missile crisis, that's two minutes to midnight means total nuclear war. The last time I checked were 20 seconds from midnight. That's your answer. Follow me at Real Ox Jones on x infowars.com show and I love you Tim Dillon.
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Alex Jones
Love you Alex Jones. Thank you so much Alex Jo everyone. Thank you.
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