The Tim Dillon Show

Episode 484 – Epstein, Wexner, & The Great Silverware Heist

Date: February 22, 2026
Host: Tim Dillon

Episode Overview

In this episode, Tim Dillon takes listeners on a wild, comedic journey through the news of the week, his encounters in Los Angeles nightlife, reflections on modern culture, and, most notably, deep dives into the peculiar relationship between billionaire Les Wexner and the infamous Jeffrey Epstein—culminating in an absurd but revealing discussion about trust, power, and the “great silverware heist.” Throughout, Tim blends social commentary, stand-up energy, and biting satire as he addresses the state of America, elite absurdities, and the collapsing trust in institutions.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. LA Nightlife & Fans: The Snow Strippers Concert

• Tim recounts attending a Snow Strippers concert in LA.
• Describes the unique crowd: "Transfurries, goth Mexican, trans-furry kind of community." (00:03:00)
• Reflects on how different demographics, even “Mexican trans-furries,” eventually find his show:

  “You will come to me eventually. No matter what segment you’re in, you will find the program eventually.” (00:04:20)

• Observes older, suspicious attendees at underground shows:

  “But then occasionally you will see someone there that is older than me who are clearly just trying to kidnap people. That’s an interesting segment.” (00:06:25)

• Shares awkward run-in stories with “white black guy” archetypes, noting the line between genuine and performative identity.

  “If it’s tastefully done, white black guy, I think it’s an attractive quality. If it’s tastefully done…” (00:09:40)

• Comments on the increasing difficulty in tolerating new people as he ages.

2. Hope, Pessimism, and America’s Mood

• Addresses critics accusing him of spreading hopelessness:

  “If you look at the news right now and you’re overwhelmed with a sense of hope, I don’t know what to tell you.” (00:23:00)

• Describes society’s “deflated” state—both at the concert and more broadly.
• Offers satirical takes on political optimism:

  “If minorities got more work in the shows that no one watched, no one would need health care. Everything would be fine.” (00:26:45)

3. Geopolitics: Iran and Israel

• Blasts the “boomer fever dream” of Iran as an existential threat:

  “Our country...is separated by water and we have a massive military and a nuclear arsenal...Any attack on America would sign the death warrant of the Iranian regime.” (00:35:20)

• Asserts that the push for conflict with Iran mainly serves Israel’s interests, not America’s.
• Questions the rationale and sanity behind regime change operations:

  “It’s a country of 90 million people...Supposedly, we’re going to put somebody in there who they all love. I don’t know who it is...” (00:39:15)

4. The Olympics: Apathetic Indifference

• Expresses total lack of interest in the Olympics, despite a J. Crew skiing ad he filmed:

  “The Olympics aren’t a thing, and they haven’t been for years...Who’s this for?” (00:47:00)

• Mocks the shift in athletes' backstories from lighthearted to bleak:

  “It used to be his father got him up every morning...Then it became really dark—his mother bought lottery tickets every day and now he’s going for gold.” (00:48:30)

• Roasts viral stories like the skier’s career-ending injury:

  “That doesn’t make me feel anything, and it doesn’t make you feel anything. Stop lying.” (00:50:45)

5. Hazing and Greek Life

• Downplays concern over college hazing rituals:

  “If college kids want to kill each other...it’s really the least of our problems.” (00:59:00)

• Jokes about his real “fraternity” experience:

  “The brotherhood of subprime mortgage salesmen on Long Island. Our common enemy was the FBI.” (01:00:10)

• Mocks the panic and prudishness around contemporary hazing.

6. The Main Event: Epstein, Wexner & The Great Silverware Heist

The Wexner-Epstein Relationship

• Recaps billionaire Les Wexner’s claim that he was “swindled” by Epstein, and summarizes their convoluted ties:

  “Les Wexner, billionaire entrepreneur, was taken in and swindled by Jeffrey Epstein. He gave him the largest private residence in Manhattan...gave him power of attorney.” (01:06:30)

• Taunts the idea that Wexner, with a “small army of lawyers and accountants,” could be naively conned:

  “Does anyone believe that Les Wexner, who has an army of lawyers and accountants—except the one they shot, you can Google that—that he was swindled?” (01:09:25)

• Satirically re-enacts a cold call between Epstein and Wexner, ultimately leading to giving away all of his billions after being told to count his silverware.

The Case of the Shot Lawyer

• Dives into the mysterious 1985 murder (unsolved) of Arthur Shapiro, a lawyer for Wexner:

  “Life’s random and weird. So this guy takes one to the head. You can't...can you predict life? You cannot. That’s life. You’re riding high in April, shot down in May.” (01:12:20)

Silverware Inventory as Financial Strategy

• Highlights the absurdity of Wexner claiming Epstein advised him to protect against theft of “forks and spoons”:
  • Memorable moment:

    “The CEO of Victoria’s Secret just said that Jeffrey Epstein was telling him to inventory furniture and forks and spoons because people might be leaving Les Wexner’s house with forks and spoons.” (01:27:00)

  • Tim riffs on the imagined reasoning:

    “Let me give you all of my money now. And then he purchased Jeffrey Epstein the largest private residence in Manhattan. And you know why? Because forks are a lot of fucking money.” (01:28:45)

On Billionaire “Victimhood”

• Skewers the notion that billionaires were tricked, presenting it as insultingly transparent PR:

  “You gotta just step back and think about how stupid they think you are...it is funny.” (01:22:30)

Lawyering and the Art of Evasion

• Describes how Wexner and legal teams avoid substantive answers in public interrogations—leading to more suspicion, not less:

  “The lawyer knows how crazy the lies are. Les Wexner’s not had to lie in a long time. His lies are crazy.” (01:31:15)

7. Conspiracies, Intelligence, and 9/11 Redactions

• Discusses the persistent redaction of key files related to Epstein, intelligence operations, and 9/11, exposing ongoing cover-ups:

  “All of the Epstein files around 9/11 are blacked out...the scam there is basically saying, well, if we put out these files, other countries will know how we get information, who our sources were and the methods we used...” (01:19:00)

• Mocks government rationales for secrecy and their contempt for public intelligence.

8. Political Bureaucracy Satire: Bongino & Patel

• Plays and mocks a clip of Dan Bongino and Kash Patel pontificating on “tough decisions” in DC:

  “What the f*** are these two people talking about? Can anyone even venture a guess at this point? They make Les Wexner look like an open book.” (01:41:00)

• Ridicules the idea that the main thing learned in high office is that “people live outside DC.”

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• On Chasing Demographics:

  “I will start making sense to you at a certain point in your life. You can’t fight it...I will wear you down with logic and charisma. There’s nothing you can do.” (00:05:00)

• On Billionaire Victimhood:

  “Just because I’m one of the wealthiest people in the country, I can’t have my friend let me down in a major way?” (01:29:45)

• On Insulting Lies:

  “The contempt they have for you is funny...it’s like when your kids lie to you about curfew.” (01:22:30)

• On Institutional Secrecy:

  “Sources and methods is a lie. You can release stuff without sources and methods...they don’t want to put it out because you’re going to start talking about what the hell was 9/11.” (01:19:35)

• On the Silverware Heist:

  “Epstein was telling him to inventory the silverware...and Les Wexner said, ‘What a good thought...Let me give you all of my money now.’” (01:27:10)

• On Geopolitics:

  “Supposedly Iran’s like five minutes away from a nuclear weapon...we have to go in and engage in regime change war, which would be like a real war. Obviously, we would win—we’re the United States.” (00:39:08)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• LA Nightlife/Early Riffs: 00:01:00–00:14:30
• Difficult People & Aging: 00:14:30–00:19:30
• Pessimism, America, and Hope: 00:20:00–00:31:45
• Iran, Israel, and Foreign Policy Satire: 00:31:45–00:44:00
• Olympic Indifference/J. Crew Short Film: 00:44:00–00:59:00
• Greek/Hazing Segment: 00:59:00–01:06:00
• Epstein & Wexner Deep Dive & Silverware Riff: 01:06:00–01:31:45
• Intelligence, 9/11, and File Redactions: 01:17:00–01:24:30
• Bongino, Patel, and Bureaucratic Mumbo-Jumbo: 01:39:40–01:44:10
• Closing Reflections & Outro: 01:44:10–End

Final Thoughts

Tim Dillon ends the episode mixing caustic humor and serious undertones. He skewers power and hypocrisy, pulling back the curtain on how easily the public is patronized by the elite—whether it’s pantomimed billionaire “victimhood,” never-ending government secrecy, or the fading relevance of formerly great institutions (from Hollywood to the Olympics to “Greek life”). All the while, Tim’s signature voice—sharp, skeptical, and unafraid—runs through every segment.

“You give me the authority to make the hard decisions and you give me the resources…Because if I didn’t have the resources to make the decisions, then someone might be walking out of my house with forks. Good night.”
— Tim Dillon (01:50:25)