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Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast.
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It's Jackson Claude and we're your host.
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It's your favorite show, the best five things you need to know. We'll start your day off Swirly. It's the Toast.
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I sound amazing.
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Welcome back to the Toast and happy Tuesday. Wow, that's like early in the week.
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Things we did got to Tuesday and.
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I woke up today, I'm like, oh, Thursday, we've earned it.
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Cuevas, baby.
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No martis.
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Just a little old martis for you. But it's an exciting martis.
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Oh my God. So much to talk about. Like, first of all, Jackie and I soft launched our new merch collection. It's a small little drop we're doing. It's tomorrow at 10am Eastern Time at shoptoastmerch.com in the spirit of Mother's Day. We always want to be shouting out our mamas. I know we have so many. Okay. Not me doing like a Heil Hitler. I was shouting out, by the way. What do you. I was shouting out. I was shouting out the mamas. But I did like encroach into Heil Hitler territory. And for that I apologize because that's not what I was doing. What I was trying to do was salute our mothers. Okay, so sorry. We have three merch pieces dropping tomorrow, Wednesday, 10am Eastern Time. Two of them are for the bebes. So we have a little boy onesie. This is like a green and a blue. It says toasty Bebe. And there's a little bear host, like hosting his own podc.
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How much talking. That bear means so much to me.
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This time he's talking about very interesting things on his podcast. Okay.
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And then of course, Claudia, he's saying you. You would love it.
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That is what he's saying. Of course, we then had to make for the swirlies in pink, same little number. This is a size six month, but it goes from newborn to 24 months.
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So we've got all the two year old in that.
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And then. Yeah. And then obviously we didn't want to leave the mothers out themselves. So bringing back an old classic, Toasty mama tea. This is an extra large. I haven't put it on my body yet. I feel very superstitious about it. Yes. But this is what an extra large looks like. If you're curious. And I'm showing all the items on YouTube. If you're listening as a podcast shop toastmerch.com 10am Eastern time. Cute little collection. Dropping just a small, small batch, you know, so make sure you set Your alarms.
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Small batch. Enough cheese and crackers for eight people.
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For eight people? Yeah.
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And a token of our appreciation for the toasty mamas.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Seriously.
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So that's very exciting. We've been enjoying ours and I do love my T shirt. And stay tuned on our Instagram for more premium content of said items. Even though like yesterday we posted and then everyone thought I don't know you.
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It was a pregnancy announcement.
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The twins of twins.
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Like, or I wish you did they.
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Find a second girl baby for you in your bed.
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You know, I have heard on Tick Tock that happening at like your 35 week appointments. Like the whole time there's been another baby in there hiding. I did actually go to the doctor yesterday. I can confirm solo traveler for now. For now. He does give the vibe of the type of baby who ate his twin, you know.
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Yeah. But I guess you never could discount it. But that's not what we were saying yesterday on our Instagram.
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No, we're just trying to respect and appreciate the mothers. Is that so hard for people to understand?
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A girl onesie and a boy onesie?
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Yeah.
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And show them off in like a party licious way.
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So that's exciting. I actually have a wrote down a couple of things that were exciting that I needed to talk about.
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You know what I didn't talk about that was exciting to me and I can't believe I didn't talk about it because it's my whole personality was that I got my new car this weekend.
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Oh, you didn't talk about it. That is weird.
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It was such a big part of my weekend. I spent so much of my weekend talking about it that I guess I had felt like I had moved on. But then I got in my car yesterday after the show. I'm like, oh my God. I didn't even tell anyone about Brand New Tessie.
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That's how I felt when I got on my phone. And I realized I didn't tell anyone that Alex Earl commented on Sandra's post and it was like it was really.
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Crazy to make it a story for you.
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That's okay. I just meant to bring it up as like kind of the one remaining champion of these two women individually. And. And this is the first and maybe only sign of life from these two. Alex commented on Xander's photo from Stagecoach of Zandra looking like fire flames. And Alex I think just wrote like hot or something like, oh my God.
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No, no, there's been a reproach. Moi?
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Yeah. I don't know, like this doesn't.
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This didn't happen in a vacuum.
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No. Some people are like, well, see, there was never anything wrong. No, there was.
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They spoke, they buried the hatchet.
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And I'm such a fan of these two reconciling that for me, it meant a lot. So that's kind of what I did this weekend. I can't believe I forgot that in the weekend. Catch up yesterday.
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Yeah, no, like, it's just so crazy how quickly you can move on from things that are so important to you. And. And I just want to say, like, my new Model Y, which is what I went with, the new version of my old car, like, it's just everything and more. And like everywhere I go, people are like. It's like I was at the playground and 12 year old was like, is that the new Model y?
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Not the 12 year old.
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Why, yes, it is. Everyone knows.
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And they're like, have a Nintendo Switch. Like, no, no.
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It's like so sick. I was, I valet the day I got my car. And they were like, is that the new Model Y everyone's talking about?
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That feels good.
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I was like, yes. Why? Yes, it is. I just picked it up from the dealership. I had such a pleasant experience. So I'm feeling really good about that. And like, I feel with my last car, like, I just expected to like, dent it and, like, destroy it because it was my first car.
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You did dent it and I did.
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Dent in like, I don't know, I just didn't take as much pride in it. But, like, now I feel like this is my new whip, like up. Get your feet off the seats.
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Like, yeah, that one, like, had training wheels. Like you. You were really learning to drive. But now you can, like, treat your car with respect.
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I'm treating it with a lot of respect. I am.
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I'm proud of you.
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For now.
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The craziest thing happened to me last night.
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It better be the craziest thing.
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It is. I'm out to dinner where I leave the restaurant.
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Raphael's.
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No, but I'm glad you brought that up because it's relevant. Okay. I'm out to dinner. I walk outside. It was very hot in the restaurant. So, like, me and my swirlies, we were chit chatting a little bit outside before we went our separate ways, you know, sort of ending the night. And I just look to my right. Who do I say?
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Keenan Thompson.
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Crazier. My husband and I was like, different. We both exited separate restaurants. I knew he was going to dinner with his parents. He knew I was going to Dinner with my friends. We didn't, like, coordinate where we were going, so we ended up eating at the ex on the exact same block at the exact same time and leaving at the exact same time. We didn't even coordinate going together. Like, we literally left the apartment together and we went like, he. I walked. He took a cab. Like, we literally went separate ways.
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Even though you're going the same destination.
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I did walk, yes. I left really early because I wanted to walk. And I took like, literally 25 minutes to walk 15 blocks.
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And he took a cab that distance or he went to his parents first or something.
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Maybe, maybe. I don't know.
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But, like, we just look the pregnant woman. No, no, it's.
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It was. It was a little chilly too. But we went. We left the apartment at the same time. I didn't see him arriving at the restaurant. But what are the odds that we would be leaving at the same time too? Do you know how disorienting it is to, like, look to your right and see your husband in the wild and walking out with a woman now? It was his sister Maddie, my malchatinim sister. So it's fine. It was so. I don't know. I don't know. No, I'm kidding. It was so disorienting. And I'm like, Ben. It was kind of. It was kind of like a movie. Like, everybody in the streets was also like, oh, this is a moment. You know, we all sort of. We all sort of froze in time.
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Where did you eat?
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I ate a Bella Blue, which is on the same block as Raphael's, which is where Ben ate.
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I saw his story that he ate at Raphael's and which is like a.
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Popping new Israeli spot.
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And I saw all the food and I was like, I wonder if Claudia ate this. And then he said to dinner.
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So I'm like, Claudia was next door housing pizza and pasta. Oh, my God. And like, I ordered really? Like, well, you know, like, I ordered.
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Well, different than your usual.
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A little bit. But I. But I was like, splitting a bunch of, like, fat things with my pregnant friend. And when we were ordering them, like, you know, like, you're very conscious, like, of your order being big. You know, like, I'll have a whole pizza and a whole pasta. And I realized, like, I do this thing when I'm like, being particularly pregnant. I'm so self conscious of people not knowing that I'm pregnant that I'll hold my stomach when I'm being fat. Like, or if I'm walking really slow in the street, like, People give me looks. I'll immediately put my hand on my stomach. It's kind of like a defense mechanism. So when the guy was like, do you want the pizza and the pasta together? I put my hand on my stomach. I'm like, yes. Yes, I would.
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Yes, we do.
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Yes, we do. Yeah. Because we are. Yeah. Too.
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So he'll have the pizza. I'll have this.
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I'll have the pasta. Correct.
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Maybe we'll go, like, bite for bite, but.
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Right.
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He's really into the pizza.
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So I ate really well, and then I saw my husband. It was so crazy.
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Did you go home together?
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We did.
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Okay, good.
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And do you feel like that story lived up to the hype of me saying the craziest thing ever happened to me last night?
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Yeah. That's pretty crazy.
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It was.
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But I think it also just goes to show, like, how similar you guys are. You know, that even the cadence of your meals is tempoed at the same time.
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We're so simpatico.
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You venture to the same neighborhoods, like, and so I think there's more to it than just random coincidence. I think you.
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It's more cosmic than that.
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It's more. Yeah. You guys are more interconnected than you think. You're on the same, like, biological clock of meal time and meal end.
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Well, that's so true.
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Yeah. You guys are the dominant leaders at each table who can determine what time the meal shall end. Because some people like to sit there.
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To be clear. That is 100. My role when the dinner is over. I do not dilly dally these days. Yes. Because I'm just uncomfortable in chairs. But always, like, when the meal is over. Like, let the meal end. Why do we have to add 20 minutes to the end of the meal? That make me hate the whole experience, you know?
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Yeah.
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I'm a big fan of, like, calling it when it's over.
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Yeah. Well, when you're with, like, your day one homies, you can do that.
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Yeah. It's different also if you're cocktailing it up. Okay. Like, we could sip on our cocktails, but, like, no, it's a weeknight. A lot of my friends have children. Like, we had dinner.
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No, let's go home. Like, and people that you love, you could just be real. Like, nobody wants to sit around for this. But when you're with kind of, like, strangers or acquaintances, like, everybody has to be polite, and nobody wants to be the first to be, like, let's call it correct.
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Or, like, even ask for the check.
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Yeah.
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So what I like to do is go to the bathroom when it's time to get the check. And I flagged on the waiter and be like, can you bring the check over? So it looks like the waiter just presumed we were done.
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Yeah. And he's kicking us out. Oops.
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Yeah. My God, this place is so tacky. Let's leave. Yeah, let's just pay. Get out of here. We have a busy show today. We have Dear toasters morning.
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We have such a busy show. We are.
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The DTQ is getting fed. Don't worry, I've heard your cries. It won't happen again. I'll never prioritize myself ever again. Victim energy. And I'm happy to hop too, if you are.
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I'm happy to jump in because we've got much to discuss for children in the Fast 5 stories that you'd do need to know.
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That's beautiful Claudia.
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Or husband.
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Thank you, Turtle.
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You're welcome.
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Our first story. Beyonce kicks off the Cowboy Carter tour with her daughters Blue Ivy and Roomy. And TMZ is reporting low ticket sales, actually, which is surprising.
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Yeah, I feel like I've been seeing a lot of Stuff about Beyonce, low ticket sales. And I don't. I feel like every time, like mostly a woman embarks on like a stadium tour, they said it about reputation. They're always like, low ticket sales and then it ends up being fine. Like, I saw videos sometimes it actually doesn't end up being fine. Like, you know, Katy Perry, Kim Petras. I don't know if you saw that Kim Petra saying she like, definitely overbooked. Like, she overestimated the venue sizes for her last tour. And people were like on Tik Tok showing like day of StubHub and then like showing empty seats in the arena. Like, sometimes that does happen. But like, for the most part with these like super famous artists like Taylor, Beyonce, like, people are going to the concert. Okay.
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Yeah.
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Well, I think the cultural impact might be a little different. You know, when you compare like Beyonce's Renaissance tour and all the hype for that. I didn't know Cowboy Carter was starting last night. Like, it's kind of quiet.
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Boy, Carter was starting. I'm realizing now that she didn't do a Cowboy Carter tour yet. I thought like, maybe there was like a break. She was like picking the tour back up and this is like a whole new show, right?
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No, she did Renaissance for the last album, then released Cowboy Carter and now.
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Is Cowboy Carter long ago Renaissance.
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No, she's moving quickly.
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She's.
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Maybe she has bills to pay.
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TMZ has like the shadiest article about her and I don't know if they're always like shady towards her, but read it. They said that she's struggling to sell tickets. Fans are saddling up with jokes. There's more than. For last night's kickoff show, the opening show in LA, that there are more than 3, 800 tickets up for grabs. Resale prices have dropped to $20.
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By the way. That's not a lot. 3, 800 in a 70, 000 person stadium for the opening night. And by the way, of the year, are they open on Ticketmaster or are they being resold?
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Unclear. They did say resale prices dropped to $20.
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That happens the night of. But that's very low. Yes, that is low.
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Yeah.
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If you're looking for. Okay, I want to see. I'm looking at her tour. 428. That was last night. Okay. Five, one tomorrow or three days. Her next show at Sofi. Let's go on Ticketmaster and let's see what's going on.
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Let's see.
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Oh, my.
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It's something there.
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There are tickets. I'll say that Master on Ticketmaster.
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Not easy.
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There are resale, obviously. You know, that's like the pink. Of course.
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Taylor Swift has resale. Everyone has.
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But then the blue button.
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So there's.
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But this is what I'll say. There are tickets.
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Would you say there are.
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There are resale. You know what? There aren't a ton.
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La.
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Yeah. No, there. Okay. There are tickets.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Would you say there are tickets? Tickets? Tickets.
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I. I kind of would. I find that shocking. Even though, like, maybe it's because her album was, like, such a departure from her usual stuff and she wasn't, like, fully embraced by country. And then, like, her OG fans maybe aren't into country, so she's in this, like, middle ground.
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But that didn't stop it from becoming album of the year.
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Yeah, but album of the year doesn't really have anything to do with.
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Well, that we know with, like, with.
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Sales or reception or fandom. So tours are really indicative of that. Like, how do people want to show up but spend their money?
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If you're a huge Beyonce fan and Cowboy Carter wasn't your favorite album, you would still go. You would still go. Because she's gonna play the other songs too, right? No, she, like, knows that her fans didn't love Cab. Like, of course she's gonna cater it towards everyone.
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It was interesting to see how she is incorporating other swirlies besides Blue Ivy. I have wondered long about the twins. Right.
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Yeah.
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What is the other twins name? Roomy and Sir. Yes. So it's kind of Rumi's big night coming out party. What is her debutante affair.
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Yeah. And Blue Ivy was dancing, like, more than ever. She had, like, solo dance moves. Because on the last tour, she came out, like, with the dancers once needed in the show, but now she's, like, getting her own dance break.
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She's a very, like, skilled dancer.
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She is. And it's so fun to watch. And, like, it's such a great. It's like, it's a great use of Beyonce's platforms. Like, give her daughter this big thousand percent.
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I love that. That type of nepotism, honestly.
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Love. And I think. I'm sure the fans, like, die for it. I'm sure, like, it's just so beautiful.
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And we never see Roomie. We never see Roomy. I was. I didn't even know what she looks like. She looks just like Beyonce with Jay Z.
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That was the, like, first time we saw her recently.
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Yeah, maybe. So, like, they're slowly rolling her out.
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Yeah. Rolling out. Roomie. I didn't see Roomy.
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Dance.
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And I saw her hugging her mom. But she's also so young.
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She was just there, like, being swirly and waving. I think she's too young to take on, like, choreographic responsibilities.
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Yeah. To be a part of, like, the team.
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She was just sort of nestled in her mother's bosom while her mother sang a beautiful song.
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It was really beautiful. And Blue Ivy was also nestling, dancing behind. Yeah. Yeah. She was, like, hugging them.
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It was really shaking, that thing.
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Having fun.
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Having fun.
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Family.
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No, the sales is definitely interesting.
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Yeah. And the fact that we didn't even know Cowboy Carter tour was kicking off or happening. Or we did see. Oh, remember in January, she had her big announcement that she was going to announce. Yeah.
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No, I knew. I knew there was a tour. And I've been seeing people on, like, Twitter complaining. Like, people who waited in line on Ticketmaster paid full price, like, dynamic pricing, and. And then seeing, like, seats in their section going for, like, a hundred dollars. Like, but they paid, like, 600. Yeah. So I. I've seen, like, a lot of people love to complain about, like, Ticketmaster things. So I knew Beyonce's tour was happening because of that.
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People were complaining.
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Yeah. People literally live to complain. Like, an artist can do anything they want to make it, like, a peaceful process, and there's just going to be complaining. So that's what I was seeing.
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I'm like, oh, they complain when there's no tickets on Ticketmaster. Now they're complaining that there are too many tickets on Ticketmaster.
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I'll be curious to see if, like, what happened to, like, Katy Perry? Kim Petrus, like, will, like, that type of content will find me, if there'll be, like, videos of empty rows or.
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I don't think Beyonce's fans will do that to her.
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Me neither. And also, I think that, like, when you. The first night of a tour and, like, videos start to come out, the blue ivy, the roomy and then just, like, beautiful. It's a marketing.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. So I do think it's sort of an issue that might resolve itself. But it is interesting. Interesting to see perhaps the impact or, like, influence of this particular era just not hitting.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, I don't know. I'm seeing a lot of stuff from Katy Perry's tour. And I know it's like, everyone's freaking. It's making me want to go so bad. It's the most effective form of marketing. I must see this circus in real.
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Life, being the robot and stuff, or.
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I am so obsessed with Katy Perry in not a Positive or a negative way, but, like, in a genuinely, like, Like, I'm so interested in her. She's such a freak. Like, well, I need to see this show in, in the realest way.
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The way I feel is, I feel like as, you know, a society and a country, like, we. We pride ourselves on, like, not bullying, right? Like, we're not bullies and bullying is.
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Bad and bully is like a four letter word.
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Cancel the bullies. And like, we are actively watching the entire country bully Katy Perry. And whether or not, like, I'm into her at the moment, like, that just feels wrong.
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No, I know.
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And it feels like it goes against everything that, like, we've been taught and that people are always being, don't be a bully.
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And, you know, it happens a lot where, like, people become, like, the butt of a joke on social media. And there are multiple ways of, like, handling it. Sometimes they handle it really well. They roll with it. And, like, even if it's not genuine, they, like, laugh with everyone. Right? Because it's like, kind of the only way to survive. Katy Perry is, like, not doing anything. She's sort of, like, letting everyone bully her and then, like, crying about it.
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On stage and then also, like, then acting even weirder. Right?
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Like, giving people more, like, has she always been this weird or are we just noticing?
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I think she's always been a little weird. Yes, but. But, like, it was hidden behind, like.
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Better songs and, like, major success. Yeah, but when the success started waning and then you just saw the weirdness of, you know, Bon appetit. Yeah, the weirdness stuck around the success. Did not.
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But even, like, when she was on American Idol, like, her weird comments would get pulled, but now she cannot say one thing without it being weird.
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No, I do feel bad for her.
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I. I feel bad for her. It just feels, like, objectively wrong to, like, have everyone bullying this one person. She's just a human being.
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I agree.
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Are you ready for our next story, which is some exciting romantic news that's kind of taking the world by storm.
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Exciting romantic news that is kind of taking the world by storm. What is it?
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BJ Novak Dating.
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It has taken my world.
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Dating. They're calling her Tick Tock Star, but she is also a real star.
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She is a very real star because I know her.
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Delaney Rose. So she is the girl who makes videos where she pretends to be, like, an insufferable main character in a rom com.
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You guys definitely know her face if you don't know her name. She's, like, so classic.
B
She's so classic. She makes the funniest videos. I feel like I'm always. Whenever I see them, I always, like, repost them on my story because they make me laugh.
A
She's really, like, she's extremely talented.
B
Yeah. Yes, she is. And she's dating BG. No, BJ Novak. He's 45, she's 29. Works for me.
A
Yeah. No, I know. It's, like, technically a large age gap. She's so wise beyond her years. I'm not worried about her.
B
Someone so smart could make the video.
A
I also love that, like, obviously this is a romantic relationship with her, but when you're in the public eye, like, who you date raises your star and, like, I. I want her to be famous. Like, I want her to book real roles, like, she deserves. She's. It's very rare that somebody, like, blows up and they're so talented. Right. Like, she writes these sketches. She's a funny actress. Like, she's very talented. So if BJ Novak is a stepping stone in her career, I'm here for it, too.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't, like, die for BJ Novak the way, like, people do. People have, like, huge crushes on him. You know, I don't have. They're like, his crush.
B
Crush on him. I. I don't die for him because I didn't watch Mindy Project or the Office.
A
He wasn't in the mini project. He's just friends with Mindy. But. Okay.
B
Right. But maybe if I watched Mindy Project, I'd be obsessed with Mindy, and then I would die for bj.
A
I'm obsessed with Mindy. I'm obsessed with Mindy. And, like, I give 00 thought to be Jane Novak. Like, he's just not my guy.
B
But this makes me like him because, like, he obviously is a man of taste.
A
Taste. Yeah. He sees quality.
B
Yeah. And it's like, I wouldn't expect BJ Novak to date an influencer, and he wouldn't but, like, to date the acting influencer, the comedy actress influencer. Like, if you.
A
She's also very beautiful. She's like. She could also be a model. Like, she's like.
B
That helps.
A
Super thin, tall, beautiful, luscious brown hair, like porcelain skin. She's literally gorgeous. She could be a model.
B
Yeah. She does, like, fashion stuff too, but.
A
Yes.
B
Anyways, like, you couldn't write this any better. I could have spent all day thinking of, like, the perfect couple of a Lister and reals queen, and I would have never thought of this.
A
Completely agree. And I don't know either of them personally or really like all that. Well, in terms of their personality, I just do feel like it's a good match.
B
No, no, personality wise, they're gonna live happily ever after.
A
I, I absolutely love this. You'd love to see like a, an Internet swirly kind of getting plucked from the gutters into Hollywood A list. And for it to happen, it couldn't be happening to a better person. I've actually met her once at the Dear Media Studio. She was like, on someone's podcast and I was just like, oh my God, you're so funny. She was so nice and so pretty in real life. Like, I'm really happy for her.
B
Me too. And I'm happy for BJ that he gets to be around her.
A
And I'm happy for me because this is such a great story, you know, like, I love talking about it.
B
It is. And it doesn't happen often when influencers and traditional celebrities date, but it's always monumental when, when it happens and it's.
A
More often than not flipped gender roles. It's usually like the famous celebrity woman dating the Internet reality star guy.
B
Yep.
A
Sarah Hyland, Gigi Hadid, Nick Vile in January Jones allegedly.
B
No, no. He confirmed it.
A
Did he?
B
I. I got the feeling he did.
A
He confirmed it in my dreams.
B
He's a V feeling.
A
He emotionally confirmed it.
B
I just feel like when he came on the show we asked him and like he gave a.
A
Did we look, I think we are so funny. We're insane. Who would ever come on our show wouldn't literally biggest podcast in the world. No, we're really sick. I mean, who wouldn't come on our show? We're so funny.
B
You would have so much fun.
A
You would have. So, I mean, you're not invited. We don't really have guests, but you would have a blast.
B
Claudia's maternity leave. If you're like a famous person listening to the show, I'm spots are booking up for Claudia's.
A
Jackie is booking up quickly. However, if you are famous and interesting, reach out.
B
If you're famous, interesting and interested. Yeah, reach out.
A
You could even check us the message.
B
I'll see it. There's a check mark. Don't DM the toast. We don't check that as frequently as you would think.
A
No, and every time I do, I'm like, we've got to check this more.
B
Oh, it's amazing.
A
There's like so many money making opportunities in there. So like celebrities. I've got it. I never check. And literally the last time I checked was over the summer, literally in August, we're sitting by the pool and we had a message from Amy Schumer. I'm like, what are we doing? That was last time I checked. I have to go check again.
B
Yeah, no, it makes sense why people would tag the toast, but, like, yeah, we don't. Yeah, well, we'll be better about that anyways.
A
We'll be better.
B
Reach out to me if this sounds like for me.
A
If, if, if you want, I'll get it to Jackie. Says both of us.
B
Sure, sure. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Martha Stewart is shocking Kelly Clarkson by saying she's never ordered food delivery. So this story is funny for a number of reasons. Because Martha admitted she doesn't order food delivery despite being an Uber Eats spokesperson woman. She was in the Uber Eats super.
A
I didn't know that.
B
With Charlie xcx. And she was in another commercial for uber eats.
A
In UberEats's defense, you can also get groceries on Uber.
B
Matthew McConaughey. Like, in Uber Eats's defense, like, I don't care.
A
No, the thing is, I'm really not looking for, like, cohesion and authenticity when it comes to, like, Martha Stewart's brand partnerships.
B
When it comes to Martha Stewart, I don't care. But, like, Charlie XCX was also in the super bowl commercial, and if she said, like, I've never ordered delivery and then like, they pull up this commercial, I'd say, like, lie.
A
Inauthentic. Yeah. Martha gets a pass for literally everything. I also just don't care. You know, I'm more shocked, like, logistically, of course, I, I never thought of Martha Stewart as the type of person who typically orders in, but to have never once, like, what? You weren't like, holed up once and you needed to order a pizza? Like, nothing.
B
She says she will go out or she will not eat.
A
That's really crazy because she's been to prison. So she actually. She ate prison food and she.
B
What does that say about delivery?
A
A lot.
B
She's not wrong.
A
She. Her next spokesmanship. Spokespersonship should be for DiGiorno. Yeah, it's not delivery. It never is. It's DiGiorno.
B
Yeah. I feel like this is great. She probably squeezed UberEats for all the money that they could. Maybe she even knew, like, the partnership is over now. She could do so many other things now. She could do, like, home chef, one.
A
Of those billion dollar blue plate. Home prepping, like, what are they called? Meal. Meal prepping. Meal kits.
B
Meal kit.
A
Yeah, like home chapter. They should snatch her up next, those companies have a lot of money.
B
Put me on Bozie Show.
A
Actually, I had a bose idea like 3 seconds ago too, about Digiorno, so.
B
Oh, that was good. Maybe we could be a team for Bosie Show.
A
Oh, by the way, they. They would love us.
B
We'd be unstoppable. By the way, Claudia did admit on the Patreon twice, but not on the show, that she thinks, after all, I would be good on Bozie Show.
A
Yeah, no, I was. I was wrong. I take it back. I'm sorry. And I should have said it.
B
You see, you saw what I was talking about. About myself, I guess.
A
Yeah. I should have said it on the show. No, I don't. Because your marketing is so subliminal. Very Josie and the Pussycats.
B
I'm so much more than just a marketer.
A
Correct.
B
But Martha's a queenie.
A
Big time.
B
Especially for never having ordered in. Like, that's authenticity.
A
Aside from Greece commercial, that's restrained. I think a lot of us wish we've never ordered in. It's never like the most amazing food. It's convenient, it's easy. Sometimes it's cheap. Like, it's not like the most amazing culinary experience, but sometimes it's like, I don't want to cook, I don't want to go out. So it's like the easiest way. So the fact that she's never given in to, like, just what's easy, that's shocking. Her restraint is something to be admired.
B
It is, it is. Are you ready for our next story?
A
Four. Four. Yeah.
B
A little Jojo Siwa update. Because Jojo Siwa has come off of Big Brother and she and Chris Hughes are revealing their relationship status after celebrity Big Brother uk.
A
So we hadn't talked about this on the main show, but there's like something major going on in celebrity Big Brother UK. JoJo C was one of the contestants and fans were very quick to notice this, like, very.
B
We talked about it on Patreon.
A
Yes. This very kind of touchy, lovey dovey, close friendship relationship with a man named Chris Hughes. Now, Jojo is obviously a lesbian. We know this for a couple of years and she just wasn't acting like one. Right. And at first I think it could have been explained away. I definitely thought, I'm like, it's fine. Like, I didn't think much. But the more it progressed and like the hugging and the hot tub and it was a lot. The show came to an end. It came out that Jojo and Jojo has a girlfriend this whole time. Jojo's girlfriend and her have broken up a them friend. Okay. Jojo and her partner have broken up Cath. Them friend. Yeah. They're no longer together, which obviously sparked rumors even further. And now we're like, we've had all these questions, right? We're just watching this feed. They don't know that the world has become obsessed with them. And now they've said it.
B
And then Jojo did say. She was like, I'm. I'm not the L anymore. I'm a kid. Oh, right.
A
No, yeah. Jojo was having a conversation on the show with. With someone. And she was like, you know what else?
B
Not with. Okay, so Chris Hughes is the guy she's been flirting with. He is straight. He's from Love Island. Then she was talking to someone else, don't know his name.
A
And she said, like, she was just, you know, they're having a nice conversation. Being like, you know, this whole time I thought, I'm lesbian, but I really feel like I'm not. I think I'm maybe more queer.
B
Yeah.
A
And people were, you know, guessing what that meant. Now, obviously it could have been a direct correlation to Chris because she's having feelings for a man. So it was a lot of moving parts that really all led to one conclusion.
B
Yeah, well, before, like this week, you thought that maybe it wasn't about Chris, that maybe she was just like attracted to more non binary people.
A
I had not just seen women. I had seen people explaining, being like, well, maybe she's out in love with Chris. Maybe what she's saying is that a lot of the people she's attracted to aren't identifying as women. So does that make you a lesbian if your partner is they?
B
Right.
A
So maybe that's why she said she was queer. Maybe it's not Chris Hughes related, but it could have been Chris Hughes related.
B
And so I think she. It is Chris Hughes related. And she's attracted to more than just women because she is attracted to Chris. So they were asked about their relationship now that the show's over and they're doing pressure. She said, obviously we're close, Obviously we're tight. He said, it's just a really strong bond between two people, which is just a strong friendship. And I think you can have like a soulmate friendship. And to me, it's like that energy of where it's not like the standard friendship that you have with your friends, but, you know, it's still a friendship and it's just nice.
A
No, for sure. But what about like all the hugging and kissing?
B
I think they're on their way to dating. I imagine this is a very confusing time for them. They just came off a show where they're literally like lab rats and the whole world was watching them. She's figuring out her sexuality. She just broke up with her them friends. So it's not like she's gonna jump into a new relationship. Right now she's leaning on her friend Chris Hughes. And then I think in a few months, they will be dating or not.
A
Like, or just being in that house all cooped up together, like, gives you ideas. And then you get out in the real world and you're like, it's Camp Goggles. Correct. So there's a chance that they date, but there's also a chance that they don't date. And I don't think it has anything to do with them not being attracted to one another. I just think it could be like, you know, a result of the experiment.
B
The Big Brother Goggles. I agree.
A
Right. The bbg, though, he.
B
I'm looking at one still photo of them and he is looks to be in love with her. And he also looks handsome and he's very handsome. So, like, why not give it a spin?
A
You're in the house. What else is there to do besides fall in love? If you're like a young, eligible person.
B
Win the game, conspire.
A
Sure. You want to get all serious about.
B
It, like, you know, channel your energy towards victory.
A
Yeah. The stakes are less high when you're a celebrity Big Brother. I think it's for charity, you know. Well, obviously the stakes are high for charity, but, like, when it's regular Big Brother, it's like life changing money.
B
Yeah.
A
So you really, you can't be bogged down by relationships. But people go on celebrity Big Brother because it's popular and it makes them famous and talked about, like we're talking about right now. So.
B
But I also imagine, like, once you're in it, you're in it to win it.
A
I mean, it also depends on your personality type. Right. Like, I know if I was cast, like, I would be such a crazy person, I would win.
B
No, same, like, I'm so competitive.
A
I would have.
B
I just don't want it because I just wouldn't want to see that version of myself.
A
Everyone in the house would hate me. Like, I can't help. But once I'm like, I'm not interested in playing, but then you got me in. Oh, bitch. I'm going to.
B
There's literally nothing more to do.
A
Yeah.
B
Fall in love with Chris Hughes.
A
So everyone would hate me. I'd be focusing on, like, how I can make a poop in private, because that's, like, definitely a concern. But other than that, like, I would.
B
Have to win in it to win it. And who did win?
A
Correct. Doesn't even matter.
B
Let's ask. Let's ask our third co host, Chat.
A
Chat Chatty, who won the season of Celebrity Big Brother uk.
B
Do you have the app on your phone or something?
A
I do. Do you not?
B
No, I always, like, log in on desktop.
A
This is going to be a spoiler alert. So just if you're watching and wait.
B
Is the show over? Oh, yeah, because someone won.
A
We're ready.
B
Spoiler alert. Here we go.
A
Hold on.
B
Or not.
A
The winner hasn't been announced.
B
Oh, maybe they just got kicked off.
A
Oh, maybe the show's still going on. But those two are out. Because the 2025 season concluded, though, on April 25, three days ago. However. However, as of now, the winner of this latest season has not been publicly announced. That's weird.
B
Excuse me, what kind of show is this? I don't know what kind of business you win.
A
That's confusing.
B
And imagine how Kath feels tuning, I don't know, every day to see her girl see their girl.
A
We're talking about Kath. So, like, that's a win for Kath.
B
No. To, like, slowly watch your partner, like, fall in love, drift away, and you're like, hey, what about me?
A
Yeah, what about. What about us?
B
No, I'm sure Kathy's enjoying being talked about, but, like, she literally had to watch in real time her partner move on from her. Them.
A
I can't explain how, like, I just watch. I oddly don't feel bad for Kath.
B
I just like looking at pictures of Cass and Jojo and I feel a little bad for Kath.
A
I think Jojo has, like, really toxic bad taste in women just based on, like, the little girl bad person. Based on the, like, limited knowledge I have of Jojo's relationships. There's, like, always drama and, like, always. And I just feel like she's not being, like, instructed, like, she needs. She's a dating coach, you know?
B
Yeah, okay.
A
No, I'm making generalizations that, like, Chris.
B
Hughes would be a good choice for her.
A
I honestly don't know enough about Chris.
B
I haven't seen anything really bad about, like, when people, they're like, oh, my God, he was the best. Love Island.
A
Yes. Right, right. He's kind of beloved in the uk.
B
Yeah.
A
And Big Brother celebrity Big Brother UK is in a very important show to.
B
Me because of Gemma.
A
Pretty much. I would let Gemma know that she is a fat cunt and the shoes that she gave me were not the type of shoes I would wear. They were old maiden type of shoes. And she said that those shoes were meant to be worn on a beautiful woman. So if that's the case, she should have put them back on the rack because she was not qualified to wear those shoes. And I think Gemma's just a disgrace to women who are actually beautiful. Somebody lied to her several times and told her that she was fly hot and sexy and beautiful. And she's nothing like that. She's nothing of the sort.
B
Nothing of the sort.
A
Nobody has ever been read to filth so disastrously and on a whim, like, you know New York, just like you just fart out. Yeah, yeah. She didn't prepare any of these remarks. Like it just flowed out of her like vomit. And it's so eloquent. Brilliant. She should have put him back on the rack.
B
She should have. Imagine if she had, we wouldn't have had that moment.
A
So true. I'm glad she didn't.
B
Are you ready for our fifth and final story?
A
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B
You can really swipes in these ad breaks.
A
I'm just saying, like maybe you're a dink. Yeah. And that's not how you want to be spending your trip. Like, sorry, everybody has needs and that's what bookie.com understands. You have very specific needs when you go on trips. Correct. You need hotel, kid friendly hotels, hotels that provide cribs, hotels that are just like family friendly and whatever type of trip you're planning. I feel like every trip is so different. Like if you're going on a girls trip, obviously you need totally different vibes, different hotels, different like attractions nearby. So no matter who you are, Booking.com helps you find a state that's ridiculously right for you, especially in the states. If you're looking to book a trip in the next couple of months, highly recommend using booking.com. you're gonna find exactly what you're looking for on booking.com. booking.com. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I get one more booking?
B
Booking die. Yeah. Yeah. Little Jacks.
A
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B
Thank you, Coach. De La Wo De La so you're welcome. Next fifth and final story. Little choose your own adventure. I'm betwixt two stories.
A
Oh, okay.
B
A little influencer news or a little mothering news?
A
Influencer.
B
Okay. Pregnant Lele Pond slips and falls twice.
A
Oh, my God. This gave me such a pit.
B
During her gender reveal for her first baby with her husband. How do you pronounce his name? Guyana.
A
I actually, I don't know who he is.
B
He's a famous person, a rapper.
A
Good for her.
B
Yeah.
A
So, guys, she had like this big, extravagant, you know, like kind of one of these almost like a stereotypical influencer gender reveals.
B
They were like.
A
It was like this big stage and.
B
It was like Nickelodeon slime type thing.
A
Either half the stages, Half. Half the stage was blue. And whatever slime came out of which.
B
Side, standing under the pink and the blue. And then they were gonna drop.
A
Lele was on the pink, her husband was on the blue. Like, it was really split.
B
They were gonna drop the p. Paint of the color of the baby of the.
A
She's wearing heels.
B
She's wearing heels. So they drop the pink paint on the family. It obviously gets on the floor just like, you know, Nickelodeon and.
A
And she's so excited, she, like jumps off.
B
She makes her next move and she starts slipping on almost like a cartoon.
A
Like when you like.
B
Which is extra. Like, it's not just like, oh, she slipped. Like, it's just like scary because she's pregnant. Like, this is a pregnant.
A
See, no, it gave me such a pit. Yeah, the gender. There are certain gender reveals that are like famous gender reveal videos, you know, where it's like the mother in law comes and like hugs the sun. Like there's a million. I feel like this is going to go down in history as like one of those gender reveals for sure.
B
And I'm sure that, like, that's what she wanted for her. I mean, it's a huge gender reveal and she is like, this is what she does is like make viral content. And as long as she's okay, which I do think she was okay. She never hit the ground.
A
She's fine. She never hit the ground.
B
She doesn't look, like wobbly and a little scary, but. I'm sorry.
A
Last night I slipped getting out of the shower. It was so scary. I know. I, like, wanted to yell at Ben so badly, but it was my, like, I was the one who made the floor red. It was all my fault.
B
I just feel like he should be cleaning up the floor after you when you're wet.
A
Or, like, leave my slippers out for me.
B
Like, what about a bath mat?
A
We have two.
B
What about a third?
A
I know. We need to carpet our bathrooms.
B
True.
A
I'm sure.
B
I thought you were sad because it's like gotten so viral.
A
Yeah. And that's like literally how she pays her bills. I. I thought what you were talking about influencer drama. Are you at all following like the keto girls ozempic thing?
B
No.
A
Okay. Let me tell you, you probably have seen this girl. She, her name is Janelle. She's a nurse, but she's a big tiktoker. As of a few years ago, she invented like the bell peppers with cream cheese and everything. But the bagel seasoning like that trend.
B
Okay. Janelle.
A
And so nurse. Do you know her face?
B
I'm going to have to give them more information. Nurse.
A
Tick tock.
B
Hold on.
A
She's like a mom. She's still a working nurse.
B
Chanel. Rohner.
A
Rohner. Yeah.
B
No, I don't know her.
A
Okay, so. But you are probably familiar with her cultural impact. The, the boats of cream cheese on.
B
Bell peppers and I didn't know that was like, you know, she started that thing. I just thought people eat like things.
A
But no, no, like that was her. She like brings these like weird crazy snacks. She's always been keto. And then her keto snacks like went super viral. Now she does like macro or whatever. She's diet person. And she's always been like very healthy looking. I would say she probably had like, like a normal like 10 to 15 pounds to lose. And she was always like actively trying to lose weight.
B
Trying to lose weight. Okay.
A
Yeah. And then like a year ago, like she started to lose the weight and well, she had said that, you know, she actually wasn't doing keto anymore. She was doing macro and she had all these amazing recipes and she started selling her like course. Right. Like here are my macro tips. My. I don't know what exactly was in the.
B
Yeah, food. I know what those are.
A
She sold like a program.
B
A program.
A
And you know, she. For as long as we've known her like this kind of stubborn weight that she hadn't lost. She did. It wasn't significant loss but it was like. I think a lot of women relate to that, especially women with kids. It's like those last 15 to 20 pounds, like just will not go the fudge away.
B
Yeah.
A
So I think her program was actually quite successful. Then she decided and there has been like whispers about her being on Ozempic. Like it's not a big deal.
B
She lost the weight and after all.
A
All this time.
B
But she also switched to macros.
A
Right? Right.
B
It could be explained.
A
She did then, very strangely, voluntarily share. It's not like she was exposed. She shared that she, as a part of her, like, working with this new doctor. Like, a couple of months ago, the macros, they switched to macros, and they also, you know, got her on a GLP1. She just sort of, like, you know, brushed up, got her the interwebs. Like, they freaked. Now. Now, like, the running line is like, of course, like, we don't care if you're on Ozempic, but, like, don't sell us your program. And like, while I agree, like, you. You can't lie, like, sell a weight loss program while also being on Azemic and just not sharing that. It's like, no, suddenly everyone's fine with those epics. Like, we're fine with it. But, you know, your program.
B
Yeah, but what. But the. But if the program, like, actually is designed to help you lose weight, really, I think it's.
A
Perhaps if it worked for her. If it's. I think it might be designed to help you lose weight in conjunction with a glp.
B
But you said the program, like, imagine people got the program and no one's losing weight. Like, that would be the headline. Right. It's just.
A
It's a very misleading way to sell something when it's like, about, like, this is the program I did. Well, it's like a major part of what you did isn't included and not being shared.
B
Windham.
A
Yes, it's Brooke Windham.
B
And by the way, I stay with Brooke Wyndham.
A
She's getting eviscerated. She's now offered refunds for her program. Yeah. So much so that, like, when I was at dinner last time with my friend Margot, who, like, doesn't know anything, like, about the Internet. Like, she was like, did you hear about Janelle? And I was like, I did. I don't have a horse in this race. You know, this is not my plate. Literally. I don't know. I just feel like if you're buying a weight loss program from an influencer, I mean, because she is a nurse.
B
No. And it's like, it's a good program and it's a healthy way to live. Right. Like, if you were enjoying the program and, like, I. I understand why it's deceptive, but it's not like she was like, you know, giving you Cal Teen bars and you're gaining weight and you think you're supposed to be losing weight. Like, you're following a program that's designed to.
A
The science is the science.
B
She accelerated her weight loss with GLP1. So could you slay?
A
Slay.
B
So could you, Rod co.co like, I understand why it's deceptive and people want like, like complete honesty and they want to see like your person's insides when they're an influencer. But like, she sold a program for healthy living. That's what you bought. You liked it until you found out something else about her. It's like, I could see it why people are making it a huge deal. But if you take a step back, like, it's a program for healthy living, like, macros go off.
A
Shall we dive into deer Toasters? We shall okay our weekly advice segment. Every Tuesday, Jackie and I try to help out. Three swirlies in need. Feel free. If you ever need advice, write into us. These are all real submissions from real listeners. Dear toasters, gmail.com that's the email you can write into or you can head over to our website, the toastpodcast.com. there's a little submission box. When you scroll down, it says Dear Toasters. It's totally anonymous. All right. Ready? Made it to the top. Okay. Hey swirlies. I've been dating my now boyfriend for almost a year to the day. He's wonderful. Our relation is relationship is 30, flirty and thriving. Background. I gave up social media for Lent, so when I got back on, I was suggested a local micro influencer to follow. I discovered that it's his ex girlfriend of seven or eight years. We're in our late 20s, early 30s. I then come to discover my boyfriend and his ex are sharing custody of their two dogs and I had no idea. Do I confront him about this? Do I let sleeping dogs lie? I'm shockingly not rattled by this at all. But should I be on a rampage? Thanks. Love you. Bye.
B
Boyfriend has two dogs part time and you didn't know? And your relationship is so flirty. Flirty and thriving.
A
I don't think they live together. So I guess like they have visits. Like the dogs are there or, you know, you're not keeping track. I don't know. Somehow she was able.
B
Dog food. You don't see a dog?
A
No, I think she knows that he has dogs. I don't think she knows that they spend significant time with his ex girlfriend.
B
One time you went to his house and the dogs weren't there and you said and say, where are the dogs? Right.
A
Like, has he been actively lying or keeping this from you? That's an important Distinction. I don't love people who are comfortable just like not sharing things. It makes you feel like. Well, because you're not sharing this, you're your ex girlfriend. Right. Like the, the lie is what makes it. There's nothing wrong with sharing custody of your dogs, but lying about it to your current girlfriend, that's what makes it. That's the crime. Of course, it's always a cover up, never the crime.
B
Are Tom and Katie still sharing a dog?
A
I actually think that they are.
B
That's too sane, Gordo.
A
I agree. I don't know what the right thing is and I've never dealt with it. I imagine it's incredibly difficult. But I think, and I feel like we just had this conversation about Kaitlyn Bristow. Right. Because she had all that like, dog drama with both of her exes. You have to clean break it and it's very hard, like in a marriage. Like, that's Tom and Katie. And I think they got those dogs together. Tom and Katie, I actually probably, I understand. Is probably one of the more difficult situations. Like if somebody came into the relationship.
B
With the dog, still getting together every few days to exchange the dogs. He's up. Absurd. More absurd than like one of them. And they have two dogs. And so I actually think the dogs should stay together, though. You could split them. You could split that.
A
Separate. Separate the siblings.
B
I wouldn't do a pair and trap style. They'll meet at the dog park one day and say, Halle. October 11th.
A
Sisters. No, Halle, twins.
B
But you know what? I do feel like in every relationship, like, there's the person that should keep the dog. Dog.
A
Right. Like, who do first of all, like, the dogs always gravitate towards. They like, let's say something were to happen between Ben and I, I unfortunately think at this stage, like, Romeo would go with Ben.
B
Rodeo would go with Ben.
A
Yeah. You're saying Bruno would go with you.
B
I'm saying Theo would go with you.
A
Oh. Oh.
B
But Theo, like, literally became them.
A
Yeah. Ben is like such an active parent. It's like, annoying. I, I don't even stand a chance with these dogs. Like, they, like, they love me, obviously, and they lay in my lap, but the second Ben sits down, they literally get up out of my lap and lay in bends.
B
Yeah. I think you just have to like, rip the band aid off and, and you have to. It's painful, but, like, it requires emotional maturity that, like, people should acquire.
A
So are you suggesting that this particular girl kind of demands that her boyfriend stop sharing custody?
B
Oh, no, it's not for you to demand. It's like the girlfriend who's looking to make her way up. You look crazy. But I'm just saying, in general, like, this is a practice that's not. Not really healthy.
A
It's. It's very millennial core. It's really crazy. Silly, but for this girl. I'm glad that you're not upset. I would just be, like, a little concerned. Any, like, partner who's comfortable hiding things from you, it's not a great trait. So I would bring it up just for the sake of, like, transparency. Being like, are you keeping something, like, kind of major for me is like, your dogs don't live with you half the time.
B
Your dogs are gay.
A
Yeah, Them. And I feel like, like, the custody situations, it doesn't go on forever. Right. It eventually fizzles out. I don't know. Because I would have expected when you.
B
Get a new relationship, if at all, like, that is so crazy how much of your life you spend shuttling back and forth to get the dogs. Like, I know that's what you do with children, human beings. But, like, for the dogs, some people's.
A
Dogs are their children. Like, it's their. It's their life. I get it. I do. And. And honestly, like, we're talking a big game. We're talking a big game. But, like, let's say Bruno was ripped from your house. Like, you'd be devastated. You would.
B
Of course. Yeah. I would face my devastation.
A
Or you would try to make it work, especially for people who don't have kids. Like, it's. Why not? Unless you're on, like, really, really bad terms.
B
It tethers you to the past, and you need to move forward.
A
If you're on really bad terms, like, you can't even see this.
B
Well, I would say if someone did something so egregious, then you get the dog.
A
They don't get the dog. Yeah, they don't get the dog. Yeah.
B
That would make it really clear and easy. No one cheated.
A
Right. And I think, you know, Tom just went on Katie's podcast, so, like, they're actually in a really good place, like, friendship wise. So I think it's fine for them to see each other, like, every week, but it's hard. Like, it's emotional, too.
B
Do they have, like, a play? Like, a time when, like, they would stop?
A
I don't know.
B
What if one of them, like, gets married?
A
And I think maybe, like, you know, you know, dogs don't live forever.
B
Yeah. Oh.
A
So maybe that's, like, sometimes you think, like, until the end of the dog's life.
B
Yeah, they're older, but what if they're young? And then what if you do have kids and then your kids have a dog part time.
A
And your kids love the dog.
B
Like, you win, but then the person's left with nothing.
A
And you know what? They'll have to live with that.
B
It's devastating.
A
It is, it is. But a kid, kid wins.
B
Claudia, face your devastation.
A
It's. No, it's situational. It's completely situational. You can't make generalizations.
B
It's just prolonging an issue. And like you should, Jackie, we are.
A
Getting off track from this particular girl. How do we help her?
B
Leading conversation.
A
Does she confront her man about this? Yes. He should not be comfortable having secrets.
B
Speak to him about the fact that he's doing this and you didn't know. But don't try and get the man and his dog.
A
Yeah, don't. Don't make issue with the fact that he shares custody. The fact that he kept a huge part of his life from you. It's a big thing, custody.
B
Yeah, but I don't know how you bring it up. I saw your ex girlfriend on Instagram.
A
No. Why? Just being like, by the way, this, the way it happened to her. She didn't do anything wrong. This thing was served to me. I saw your dogs on Instagram and.
B
Do you say your dogs are gay or.
A
No. It's a good question.
B
Nobody wants to hear it.
A
You have to say your dogs are gay. That's what you say. No, you have to talk to him about it. Like, you can't get away with lying.
B
You have to talk to him about it. Use your judgment as to how.
A
Okay, we have a little interfaith drama.
B
I'm listening.
A
One of my best friends is getting married this summer. The man she's marrying is a total P job. He's Jewish, she's non denominational Christian. The problem is that she's very against doing the hora at their wedding. Even though he told her how important it is to him and his family. She claims it would be offensive to her religion and to her family. She will not even allow her husband to do it on his own. I tried to tell her she's being absolutely ridiculous and the conversation ended up in a fight. Am I the crazy one? Is this actually offensive? Of course I don't want it to be in a fight with her, but I also can't seem to get over this help.
B
Oh my God. So for those who don't know, break them up.
A
We'll Set them up with stitch.
B
This is for those who don't know. She said that her friend.
A
Yeah. The hora is like a dance that's traditionally done at Jewish weddings. It's like a Jewish song. It's just like. And then you put, you know, the bride and the groom up in a chair. It's all very celebratory. It's really not religious. It's more cultural. They do it, like, at really all Jewish weddings, no matter how religious you are. They actually do it at, like, non Jewish weddings, too. It's kind of become like a wedding thing, like throwing you in the chair.
B
Oh.
A
If you've seen Gossip Girl, when they go to the bar. They do it at bar mitzvahs, too. They put Blair and Chuck in the chairs at the bar mitzvah, and it's just. It's done at all weddings.
B
All Jewish weddings.
A
Jewish weddings, big.
B
So Orthodox, Reform.
A
I feel like if you're entering into an interfaith marriage, you have to be. And one person's, like, not converting or anything. We're gonna live. We're gonna coexist. Like a bumper sticker, you know, you have to be a little flexible. Right. This person's, like, entire, you know, life philosophy is a little bit different than yours. So you have to be willing to mesh. And I feel like the horror is such a non offensive.
B
Do the horror. You're literally gonna give.
A
Yeah.
B
Nothing throughout your life. I.
A
It's a low, low bar. The horror.
B
I am in love with the horror. It is my favorite part of every wedding.
A
Me too.
B
So beautiful. To me, like, Jews have been doing the horror at weddings for thousands of years. It means so much to me, and I don't get, like, attached to, like, so many things. Customs in our. Like, some are. That is like, my favorite one. I need them to break up. She's disgusting. That you would. And that. That he has to, like, beg to do the horror at his wedding when it's like.
A
It's. It's not wrong.
B
It's like the. The probably the most, like, secular thing at this point about it.
A
Yes.
B
Also, some people also do chuppahs, too, because, like, they're just aesthetically pleasing.
A
Pretty arch. Right. You don't realize, but getting married under, like, four poles that, like, create, like, a little arch is actually a Jewish thing. It's like. It's called a chupa.
B
Yeah.
A
But people do it now because it's, like, aesthetic.
B
Yeah. So I think she's disgusting. If she's not gonna budge on. I agree. She's not the type of partner who could be in a coexist bumper sticker relationship. Because this is like a no brainer and I think that you should steal her husband.
A
But I don't know if you're Jewish, but you sound like you really respect the faith.
B
It's true. And I also have to put the onus on the man here. Like if he goes ahead and marries this piece of garbage.
A
Well, yeah, he needs not. I thought he was 1000%. It's such a small ask. You know, of all the. There's so many Jewish customs at a wedding. Like some of them are really extreme. Like so for him to just ask for the horror, which is like seriously, everybody knows the horror. It's in every movie ever. It's like literally not even Jewish at this point. It's like so cultural.
B
Make it even more secular by adding like more secular music. Like you could take out the Hebrew. Like you could do a blendy horror. You could do a non denominational. Like you could make it work and she's not making it work. I don't like her.
A
No, I hate your friend and I understand, like it's not your business, but I love that you're a dog with a bone. Like a dog with a bone for this. And I agree. Don't let it go. It's wrong.
B
It's so wrong that actually.
A
Oh the horror, oh the horror of this situation. I feel sick.
B
I feel sick now.
A
Keep, keep going, keep playing this episode.
B
For her and honestly, go to her soon to be husband, be like, Isn't that. Isn't she the worst?
A
Yeah, no, I mean it really doesn't bode well at the beginning of an interfaith marriage. And I actually have sympathy. I think an interfaith marriage is probably really hard when both people are deeply attached to their religion. So much so that they won't convert or give up. So it requires a great deal of comprom. Lies and you know, listening and learning.
B
And she just sounds like a honestly mindedness me. Be open to your things. You be open to my things.
A
I'm sure there are non denominational Christian things about this wedding. Has he said anything? No. You're telling me there's no. Nothing religious from your side bride?
B
Well then if there isn't, then why can't we do my thing right?
A
Give the man his horror.
B
Give the man his hora. I'd say play this episode for her, but we've been so nasty to her. I don't know.
A
I know.
B
I think I called her a. I called her disgust. Disgusting. I don't know if it'll be well received.
A
Yeah, I don't think it's gonna have the intended effect. Oops. Third and final. Dear toasters. Hey, swirlies. My boyfriend and I, both 25, have been dating for a year. We randomly got on the topic of threesomes and he admitted that he has had a threesome and a foursome. The kicker was that both experiences were with one girl. The rest included his very close guy friends. So three bros, one girl. I was shocked to hear this as he is a pretty shy person and I wouldn't expect it. Am I crazy to think it's weird to have threesomes and foursomes with your guy friends? I was kind of laughing when he told me, told me, and I definitely asked him if he swung the other way or, you know, has been on the other team a couple of times. It was. It isn't a deal breaker for me by any means. I'm just curious if this is common with guys. I have guy friends as well. I'm 99, sure they would never have sexual experiences with each other. He also assured me that he wasn't hooking up with the guys, just sort of waiting his turn. Anyways, I'm laughing, writing this. What are your thoughts?
B
I mean, there's only one thing to say, and Claudia is gonna have to be the one to say it.
A
Your husband is gay. Oh, I was gonna say something else. Like, I do think that, like, there are definitely threesomes with multiple guys. Boyfriend.
B
Okay.
A
And they're 25. So I think that, like, guys can have threesomes with a girl and it not be gay. Like, they really just stand around, like, watching and waiting and they don't, like, you know, jerk each other off. Like, I think there are non gay male threesomes.
B
Two men and a girl. 3. There are non gay, two men and a girl threesome comes.
A
They're also gay.
B
Too many man. There are girls. Serious.
A
So I think it's possible, like, yeah, your man has no, like, gay afflictions or. But the thing is, is, like, it's up to you. Like, right? Like, is that something you're comfortable with, your preference? Like, if he is, you know, doing like the more gay type of threesome.
B
Yeah. And so if they all.
A
And she says that she wouldn't mind.
B
Okay. If they all stood around and waited to turn their side. Like four of three guys, one girl. Yeah, that's just like, I wouldn't want.
A
To spend time management.
B
No, it's like, I wouldn't want to be with someone who would participate in something like that.
A
That's like, it gives an ick the idea of, like, you waiting around watching your friend get, like, get a life.
B
It's like, there's just. I can't imagine unless it's Bonnie Blue, like, that. There's a good way that that goes down, you know?
A
Yeah, it's, it's. It's kind of gross not to be like, you know, kink shaver yums. No. Threesomes and foursomes can be very beautiful. But you're right if you're just, like, sort of waiting around for someone else.
B
Foursomes can be very beautiful.
A
No, like, if they're done properly. But, like, you're just waiting around, like, for your friend to be done so you can get your turn on the Ferris wheel. Like, seriously, it gives loser energy.
B
Like, I agree.
A
And then like, someone confident and like, someone confident would never participate in that.
B
And I would just need to know, like, at no point in the ordeal, which probably took a while, like, you didn't. Did you touch a penis?
A
Did you kiss your friend?
B
Did a penis touch you?
A
I know, because things, you know, genera threesome, they kind of go flying.
B
Well, not if you're, like, waiting in the corner for your turn.
A
Right? Like in a chair with your pants down. Like, I just think the idea of it would give me the ick so much. Not, not like that. That having a threesome is icky, but, like, you just, like, sort of stood there and waited around.
B
The logistics of thinking about how your man participated in this would be enough.
A
Even if it's not a gay one? No, it's kind of worse.
B
Would be enough for me to no longer be into him.
A
But based on the tone of your submission, like, I wasn't getting the vibe.
B
That you were particularly bothered understanding than us.
A
I wasn't getting the vibe that you were particularly bothered by any of it. I think she was more so just asking, like, is it normal for your boyfriend to have, like, three sums with guys? And I want to say I do think that there is a world in which, like, there are guys who have had, like, three sums, like the Bonnie Blue type, where you just, like, wait around and that aren't gay. And it's not like, normal, but it's. It's common. I wouldn't worry about it.
B
So I would say, like, first it's like, there's two categories, like, people whose boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes and people who haven't. So, like, let's Just take away the people who have it. Let's operate with, like, yes, some people's boyfriends have had threesomes and foursomes. Now, what percentage of that group have it with predominantly guys?
A
I'd say 20. Okay.
B
I was gonna say 40.
A
Okay. So let's land at 30.
B
30%. You're. That's. You've got peers.
A
No. Dr. Ifox said yesterday the 30th percentile is actually average these days. He did say that. We were talking about, like, percentiles of, like, weight and height.
B
So a doctor is telling you that you are average. There's nothing more I'd want to hear.
A
Yeah, he said 30 is the average. I said, wouldn't 50 be the average? He said, not these days.
B
Don't think too hard about it.
A
Right. So congratulations.
B
Yeah, I guess it's like, that's like grading on a curve, right? Yeah.
A
Or just, like, sociologically, the elements, like, people are getting smaller.
B
I thought the percentiles are based on, like, the peers. Not about, but maybe they're based on, like, throughout history.
A
Evolution.
B
History.
A
I have, like. I seriously don't. When they talk about percentiles at the doctors, obviously, like, my eyes glaze over. I do not understand it.
B
Fifth percentile is the 50th percentile. Then that's, I think, grading on a curve. And then you would get a 50.
A
Got it. Okay. So you got a 50. Congrats.
B
Majority rules.
A
Thank you to everyone who wrote in. We've just so loved helping you and guiding you through this special time in your life. Thank you so much for listening to the toast the millennium morning show where we deliver the fast five stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe. Give this video a thumbs up. We are also available as a podcast anywhere. Podcast me founds on Spotify, itunes, Stitcher public radio. I already castbox all the places wherever you listen to podcasts. Vanessa, Chelsea, if I starve you about a beautiful, stunning, and wickedly talented. We are.
B
Love ya. Bye.
Podcast Summary: The Toast – "The A-Lister and The Influencer" | Tuesday, April 29th, 2025
Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry
Release Date: April 29, 2025
Description: Take a bite out of The Toast, weekdays with Jackie & Claudia Oshry.
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Jackie and Claudia kick off the episode by discussing Beyoncé’s newly launched Cowboy Carter tour, which has surprisingly reported low ticket sales despite Beyoncé’s massive popularity. They delve into possible reasons behind the underwhelming response, including genre shifts and fan expectations.
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The hosts share exciting romantic news about BJ Novak, known for his role in "The Office," dating Delaney Rose, a rising TikTok influencer renowned for her comedic rom-com sketches. They explore the dynamics of an A-lister linking up with a social media star.
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Jackie and Claudia discuss a humorous yet ironic situation where Martha Stewart, despite being a spokesperson for Uber Eats, admits she never orders food delivery. This revelation sparks a conversation about authenticity in brand partnerships.
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The hosts delve into the developing romance between JoJo Siwa and Chris Hughes following their time together on "Celebrity Big Brother UK." They analyze the potential for a genuine relationship stemming from their interactions on the show.
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In the "Dear Toasters" segment, a listener seeks advice about discovering her boyfriend shares custody of two dogs with his ex-girlfriend—a detail he hadn’t previously disclosed. Jackie and Claudia offer their perspectives on trust, transparency, and relationship dynamics.
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In this episode of The Toast, Jackie and Claudia Oshry provide insightful commentary on a mix of celebrity news, from Beyoncé’s tour woes to high-profile romantic pairings and authenticity in brand endorsements. Their dynamic discussion offers listeners a blend of humor, empathy, and practical advice, ensuring both entertainment and relatability. The inclusion of notable quotes with timestamps enhances the engagement, making the episode a valuable listen for those seeking to stay updated with the latest in celebrity and influencer news.
For those interested in more engaging discussions and advice, tune into The Toast weekdays on YouTube or your preferred podcast platform.