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The Two Trees Podcast
Hosted by Jon Dillon · EN
We want to help modern people read an ancient book. We’re here to help you get over being bored with your Bible, how to see the patterns and the literary designs the ancient authors of scripture used, as the Holy Spirit led them to write the Bible, Most important of all, we're here to show you Jesus as Deuteronomy 10:17 describes Him: the Lord your God is the God of gods, and the Lord of lords, mighty and awesome.
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The Memories of the Nations
5d ago01:03:26Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWhy do cultures around the world preserve stories of a great flood, divine beings, giant heroes, and a forgotten age before history? In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the ancient world behind Genesis and the shared cultural memory that flowed through the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent. Drawing on the concept of the "cultural river," we'll examine how Genesis engages the myths and traditions of the ancient world—not by borrowing from them, but by correcting them. Rather than celebrating the mighty figures of old as heroes, Scripture exposes a story of rebellion, spiritual corruption, and God's judgment. Join us as we consider a biblical alternative to modern theories of Atlantis, ancient aliens, and lost civilizations, and discover how Genesis reveals what was really happening behind the stories the nations remembered.
Transcribe →The story is in the names.
2w ago00:59:27Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode, we explore the meaning in the genealogy of Genesis 4, and how Scripture traces two competing ways of being human: one built on self-preservation, power, and vengeance, and another built on forgiveness, service, and self-giving love. Most surprisingly, we discover that when Jesus tells Peter to forgive “seventy-seven times,” He is answering the song of Lamech with a better song—one that calls humanity back to bearing the image of God.
Transcribe →Cains Children
3w ago01:09:37Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode of the Two Trees Podcast, we explore humanity’s calling to image God through cultivation, beauty, and stewardship, while tracing how exile distorts even mankind’s greatest gifts. From Cain’s city to Lamech’s song of violence, this conversation examines the tension between creative genius and spiritual rebellion—and the hope that God will one day restore creation and teach humanity to turn swords into plowshares.
Transcribe →Cains City
4w ago01:01:10Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailMartin & Jon explore the meaning behind Cain’s city east of Eden and what it reveals about humanity’s attempt to image God outside of the garden. Rather than treating cities merely as population centers, the ancient world saw them as places of protection, power, and spiritual authority. Tracing the story from Eden to Revelation, this episode examines how Cain rejects God’s provision and builds an “Eden of his own making,” establishing a pattern that echoes throughout Scripture—from Babel and Nineveh to the redeemed city of New Jerusalem. Along the way, we ask what it means to trust in human power rather than God’s presence, and how God ultimately redeems even the symbol of the city itself
Transcribe →The Mark of Cain
May 501:04:22Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the story of Cain in Genesis 4, asking what it means to bear God’s image outside the Garden—and what happens when that calling is rejected. Tracing Cain’s motives, his refusal to master sin, and his failure as both priest and brother, we examine how the ground itself becomes a witness to his rebellion and how exile shapes the biblical theme of wandering “east of Eden.” Yet even in judgment, God’s unexpected grace appears in the mysterious “mark of Cain,” not as punishment but protection. This episode challenges us to look beyond the mark itself and wrestle with the deeper question at the heart of the story: why does Cain choose violence, and why does God extend mercy to the undeserving?
Transcribe →Story time with Pastor Jon
Apr 2800:18:22Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIt's a dark and stormy night here in Ohio, and Martin and Jon use the opportunity to read and discuss some of Jon's book, "The Way of Eden. https://www.amazon.com/Way-Eden-Resisting-Darkness/dp/B0G9HLLMZ6/ref=sr_1_2?crid=WL0H54WXN4V8&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Q1rmWAhwAQcqjZIU9FL5-NXnPumP_Nj34IthV0lQFCcIBGlFZ8lcu4MURp8ZC4dqBQgep-vfArcV9cCxTpyaL9M1Rq7lm5a48dSQzWQ9TkPuhpkapGFxfRgRIJsftCDyqcFOEs6rn3u-PaxZHD9aD7DpY9wWTzTG9yGWNhnxJpK9Tv4PcR5SWNgVsuXGmCpdGwMiEmERZUAfJRamaDBC6e3BmZkhXD0l6WWsuDFDJd4.oe3iFPTu3Cw6WfBLi9N98o39IS6o6W2sePjqOj9GM40&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+way+of+eden&qid=1777330814&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=%2Caps%2C378&sr=8-2
Transcribe →Cains Sacrifice
Apr 2101:01:12Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we step into the haunting story of Cain and Abel in Book of Genesis 4:1–16 and explore what lies beneath the surface of the first recorded act of worship—and the first act of violence. Why are these brothers bringing offerings in the first place, and what makes Abel’s sacrifice acceptable while Cain’s is rejected? As we trace the role of Eve as life-giver and namer, we begin to see early echoes of civilization, vocation, and identity taking shape east of Eden. But at the center of the story is a divine confrontation: God’s warning that “sin is crouching at the door,” inviting Cain—and us—into a deeper question of what it means to rule or be ruled. Is humanity destined to be a victim or a predator? This episode invites you to wrestle with the tension between calling and corruption, and to consider how the story of Cain is not just about one man’s failure, but a mirror held up to life in exile.
Transcribe →Adam the Namer
Apr 1400:59:23Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn our previous episode, we explored how names in the world of the Bible were never just labels—they carried identity, authority, and relationship. But what happens after humanities fall into sin? In this follow-up episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we trace the story forward—from Adam in Eden to Adam in exile, still speaking, still naming, but now in a fractured world. Drawing from the ancient Near Eastern understanding of names and the biblical story itself, we explore how naming was meant to bless, order, and bring life—and how it becomes distorted after the fall. Yet even east of Eden, Adam names again, calling his wife Eve, “the mother of all living,” a surprising act of hope in the shadow of death . From garments of grace to the guarded tree of life, this episode invites you to consider how humanity still bears the calling to speak life in exile—and how that calling ultimately finds its restoration in the name above every name.
Transcribe →What's in a Name?
Apr 700:58:37Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn the world of the Bible, names were never just labels—they carried identity, authority, and even power. In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore how the ancient cultures surrounding Genesis understood naming as an act of ordering the world, and how that context reshapes our reading of Adam in the garden. When God brings the creatures to Adam, this is more than observation—it is a divine invitation into stewardship, priesthood, and participation in God’s rule. But what happens when that gift is distorted? From the blessing and cursing of the tongue to the deeper meaning behind renamed figures in Scripture, this episode invites you to rediscover the weight of words and the calling to speak life in a world shaped by exile.Authors note:. I MADE A MISTAKE. Around 53.26 I said Adam called his wife Ezer that is incorrect he calls her Isah which means woman Ezer is the word translated helper in verse 8. It's the word what describes what the Isah is suppose to be. I apologize.
Transcribe →Martin attends the Theater....and other shocking truths.
Mar 2400:56:39Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWe finish our discussion of Adam's exile from the Garden of Eden, and Martin tells us about his new love of theater.
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