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The Two Trees Podcast
Hosted by Jon Dillon · EN
We want to help modern people read an ancient book. We’re here to help you get over being bored with your Bible, how to see the patterns and the literary designs the ancient authors of scripture used, as the Holy Spirit led them to write the Bible, Most important of all, we're here to show you Jesus as Deuteronomy 10:17 describes Him: the Lord your God is the God of gods, and the Lord of lords, mighty and awesome.
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Seventy Nations, One Story
2d ago01:02:48Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWhy does Genesis include a long list of ancient nations, and why does the Bible keep returning to the number seventy? In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the Table of Nations, Noah's tragic fall after the flood, and the symbolic world of biblical numbers. Far from being a dry genealogy, Genesis 10 presents a breathtaking vision of humanity united under one Creator, while the recurring pattern of seventy points toward God's sovereign claim over every nation on earth. By tracing this theme from Noah to the Feast of Booths, the seventy elders, Jesus' seventy-two disciples, and beyond, we'll see how Scripture tells one unified story of humanity's rebellion—and God's unrelenting plan to reclaim the nations for Himself.
Transcribe →But God remembered Noah
1w ago01:05:51Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailThe story of Noah's flood is far more than a tale of judgment and an ark—it is one of the most carefully crafted narratives in all of Scripture. In this episode, we explore the remarkable literary design of the Flood as a chiasm, revealing that its turning point is not Noah's faithfulness but God's faithful remembrance. Along the way, we discover Noah as a new Adam, a priestly figure who points beyond himself to the One humanity truly needed. Ultimately, the Flood is not simply about surviving judgment but about God's plan to bring a renewed creation through Jesus Christ, the faithful and final Adam.
Transcribe →Invasion or Incarnation
2w ago00:58:47Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailThe ancient world celebrated stories of gods, giants, and mighty heroes. Genesis tells the story differently. In this episode, we explore Genesis 6 and contrast divine invasion with the incarnation—the powers come to take, but God comes to give.
Transcribe →They worshipped the Creation instead of the Creator
3w ago00:49:26Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailBefore we can understand the strange story of the sons of God and the Nephilim in Genesis 6, we need to learn how the Bible speaks to the ancient world around it. Pagan cultures told stories of gods, divine-human unions, and mighty heroes from the distant past—but Genesis tells the story differently. In this episode, we explore how the Bible confronts the pagan world not by saying, “None of this is real,” but by exposing an exchange of truth for a lie: creatures worshiped instead of the Creator, rebels followed instead of the King, and a world of violence remembered as an age of heroes.
Transcribe →What exactly is the book of Enoch?
Jun 3000:40:17Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWhat is the book of Enoch? Should we be afraid of it? Should we be adding it to our Bibles? Or is there another option? Let's take a look.If you're interested in the Book of Enoch, here are two helpful books.https://www.amazon.com/Watchers-Holy-Ones-Evangelical-Reading/dp/B0CD9BBBS8/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1QTBJMRWE5SIO&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.CUUG-XhF1-OcBHLI9ABGR1E5V5Nevv52FI_GePYnLZjtSHTaAuGG5jvbRvqefg62-a1tFb_EPwOQo1-ZdmMJwoXcT8qWSYTdUQ2Ko7QYDgaNmSLjTRC18if_p6Qe8O7hAaOzlcSWcg2I5tYIOt_VZnhy-54PawUpVXgNWffN7-7sKx8H6HhTj1CjNji5PpkePIKhUr6D-GTm5nt7oiR3uDOIGl6-9p4loOIDTdYZS_g.5oVhfAE-lk3KO73uOOYNNBgfgypCAWfnEJfKWCvnf1U&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+watchers+and+the+holy+ones&qid=1782780560&sprefix=watchers+and+holy+%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-1https://www.amazon.com/Companion-Book-Enoch-Commentary-Watchers/dp/1948014300/ref=sr_1_1?crid=37GOM4I1PDDT4&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.UYmuvLbRmSbEAx5Gvt73EQpdHlk5i5g91aosU9wcXd8J4CeMqPWszFsZHZ34SBgwyFH1lIVDhKwxMahCXAAHaIoNcKwwtDaj-2OEHxdu6UWfXjArBSkG2lQO_Kp2Bcj7t5M_vX-XTf9NVlF-0MZgBX2MC5ytgO2IWfABjjVrTGnErKX65Qx_hruRdIzVWdkyacXCiznU-WYOYLtn2J9R_dt1EOVIJ7CYXSO6FudnGfs.V_rtF0nZ1FEof2ztDZux9gvHhuln-aKSPCEfNb46OFg&dib_tag=se&keywords=michael+heiser+enoch&qid=1782780633&sprefix=michael+heiser+enoch%2Caps%2C202&sr=8-1
Transcribe →Thoughts on Genesis 5
Jun 2300:59:33Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWhat's going on with all these lists of names? Join us as we explore Genesis 5 and how it connects with the larger themes of scripture.
Transcribe →The Memories of the Nations
Jun 901:03:26Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailWhy do cultures around the world preserve stories of a great flood, divine beings, giant heroes, and a forgotten age before history? In this episode of The Two Trees Podcast, we explore the ancient world behind Genesis and the shared cultural memory that flowed through the civilizations of the Fertile Crescent. Drawing on the concept of the "cultural river," we'll examine how Genesis engages the myths and traditions of the ancient world—not by borrowing from them, but by correcting them. Rather than celebrating the mighty figures of old as heroes, Scripture exposes a story of rebellion, spiritual corruption, and God's judgment. Join us as we consider a biblical alternative to modern theories of Atlantis, ancient aliens, and lost civilizations, and discover how Genesis reveals what was really happening behind the stories the nations remembered.
Transcribe →The story is in the names.
Jun 200:59:27Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode, we explore the meaning in the genealogy of Genesis 4, and how Scripture traces two competing ways of being human: one built on self-preservation, power, and vengeance, and another built on forgiveness, service, and self-giving love. Most surprisingly, we discover that when Jesus tells Peter to forgive “seventy-seven times,” He is answering the song of Lamech with a better song—one that calls humanity back to bearing the image of God.
Transcribe →Cains Children
May 2601:09:37Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailIn this episode of the Two Trees Podcast, we explore humanity’s calling to image God through cultivation, beauty, and stewardship, while tracing how exile distorts even mankind’s greatest gifts. From Cain’s city to Lamech’s song of violence, this conversation examines the tension between creative genius and spiritual rebellion—and the hope that God will one day restore creation and teach humanity to turn swords into plowshares.
Transcribe →Cains City
May 1901:01:10Tap to summarizeSend us Fan MailMartin & Jon explore the meaning behind Cain’s city east of Eden and what it reveals about humanity’s attempt to image God outside of the garden. Rather than treating cities merely as population centers, the ancient world saw them as places of protection, power, and spiritual authority. Tracing the story from Eden to Revelation, this episode examines how Cain rejects God’s provision and builds an “Eden of his own making,” establishing a pattern that echoes throughout Scripture—from Babel and Nineveh to the redeemed city of New Jerusalem. Along the way, we ask what it means to trust in human power rather than God’s presence, and how God ultimately redeems even the symbol of the city itself
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