Podcast Summary: The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Episode 151: Dr. Brian Mogan, CTO of Hapbee - The Science of Biohacking Sleep Release Date: March 25, 2025
1. Introduction and Guest Background
Gary Brecka opens the episode by introducing Dr. Brian Mogan, CTO of Hapbee, highlighting his distinguished background in biomedical engineering and translational neuroscience. Dr. Mogan earned his PhD in brain-computer interfaces from the University of Washington and has extensively contributed to advancements in neural implants and spinal cord injury treatments.
Notable Quote:
Gary Brecka [02:00]: "This is the first time I've ever ... There aren't that many of us."
2. Hapbee Technology Overview
Dr. Mogan delves into the origins of Hapbee, explaining its evolution from military-grade SQUID magnetometry technology used for detecting submarines to a consumer-facing device that can mimic the effects of various compounds without introducing those substances into the body.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [12:16]: "A magnetic field is created every time an electron moves. So as even you know, these fields are very tiny, they're always present."
3. Demonstration and Personal Experience
Gary shares a personal anecdote about experiencing Hapbee firsthand during a meeting in Dubai, where Dr. Mogan demonstrated the device's ability to induce sleep and stimulate effects akin to caffeine and THC. This real-world demonstration convinced Gary of the device's potential beyond placebo effects.
Notable Quote:
Gary Brecka [06:25]: "Within 60, maybe 90 seconds, my CFO is sitting in the lobby ... falling asleep."
4. Science Behind Hapbee: Recording and Transmitting Molecular Fields
Dr. Mogan explains the core technology: Hapbee records the unique electromagnetic "fuzzy noise" produced by different compounds and retransmits these signals through a wearable device. These signals interact with the body's receptors, eliciting responses as if the actual compounds were present.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [15:14]: "Each of them is a very complex waveform... but it's an entire symphony that's capturing parts of all of that movement."
5. Applications: Sleep, Performance, Addiction, and Others
The discussion covers Hapbee's primary applications:
- Sleep: Utilizing compounds like melatonin and adenosine to enhance sleep quality without the side effects of supplements or medications.
- Performance: Assisting professional athletes with pre-game anxiety, focus during performance, and recovery.
- Addiction: Providing alternative pathways for veterans and individuals struggling with addictions by mimicking non-addictive sensations.
Notable Quotes:
Gary Brecka [40:40]: "Sleep is our human superpower and most people really struggle with sleep without getting tranquilized to go to sleep."
Dr. Brian Mogan [59:20]: "We received an award for being the most effective tool for suicide prevention from this group that works with very at risk veterans."
6. Real-world Use Cases: Non-Alcoholic Bar and Athlete Integration
Dr. Mogan recounts Hapbee's pilot projects, including a non-alcoholic bar in Dublin where patrons experienced the effects of alcohol and caffeine without actual ingestion. Additionally, professional athletes across NBA, Premier League, and NHL teams use Hapbee to manage pre-game nerves and enhance focus.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [33:12]: "We ran the world's first completely non alcoholic bar in Dublin, Ireland."
7. Future Directions and Integration with Wearables
Looking ahead, Dr. Mogan discusses Hapbee's potential to integrate with other wearable technologies, creating a closed-loop system where data from devices like Whoop or OURA can inform real-time compound transmission to optimize health and performance. Future expansions aim to include a broader library of compounds tailored to individual needs.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [50:27]: "What are the pieces of closing this loop? ... How do we take your sleep data and not only tell you what's wrong?"
8. Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Gary emphasizes the groundbreaking nature of Hapbee technology, comparing it to enhancing biohacking modalities by allowing simultaneous practices like breathwork and sunlight exposure. Dr. Mogan shares his vision of universally accessible consumer products that can rapidly improve lives without the downsides of traditional compounds.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [72:18]: "The reason for bringing it out into the consumer space ... how quickly can we affect everybody's lives?"
Final Guest Reflection: When asked about what it means to be an ultimate human, Dr. Mogan highlights continuous improvement and personal agency as key components, emphasizing the device's role in empowering individuals to enhance their health and performance.
Notable Quote:
Dr. Brian Mogan [76:41]: "Having the ability to always be improving ... and agency being able to do it in the way that you want to do it."
Key Takeaways:
- Hapbee Technology: Utilizes electromagnetic fields to mimic the effects of various compounds without ingestion.
- Applications: Enhances sleep, boosts athletic performance, aids in addiction recovery, and more.
- Personalization: Users can tailor settings based on individual responses and needs.
- Future Potential: Integration with other wearables and expanding the compound library for diverse applications.
For those intrigued by the potential of biohacking sleep and optimizing health through innovative technology, this episode offers an in-depth exploration of Hapbee's science and real-world applications.
Learn More: To explore Hapbee technology and its offerings, visit Hapbee.com and Hapbeetech.com.