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225. Noah Laith: On Peptides, Gut Health and Microplastics Detox
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Noah Lathe
All diseases start with the guts and end with the guts. There are seven stages of diseases. Stage seven is cancer, autoimmune disease, neurogenic disease, diabetes. Stage one is gut problems. Just by studying your gut, we already know in X years it's going to go to stage two.
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Gary Breca
I agree with you that the gut can be the root of all evil. Like our gut should not be something that draws our attention to it. During the course of a normal day.
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Noah Lathe
92% of your serotonin is created in the gut. Your hormones, your energy in the gut, you clean that suddenly you have more energy to fight any other problem yet you have.
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Gary Breca
And sometimes you use peptides to optimize hormones. I had a very scary moment with my mother. She got put into a rehab facility. So she laid in bed for 45 days. Her cognitive function declined so quickly. One of the peptides that I used to walk her out of this was cerebral lysin. I cannot tell you the change in her. It was like the lights were off and they came on.
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Noah Lathe
Before actually taking peptides, you want to make sure your body will actually accept it and make it stronger. Peptides are messengers, molecules. While if you take hormones, it overrides your own biology. Peptides don't override, they bring it just back to how it should be.
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Gary Breca
So for people that are looking to improve cognitive function, how are these peptides administered?
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Noah Lathe
If your hormones are not imbalance, my advice will still be.
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Gary Breca
Ultimate human.
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Breca, where we go down the road of everything, anti aging, biohacking, longevity and everything in between. And this is a special podcast coming to you live from Dubai, United Arab Emirates. And I have found some of the most unique and qualified individuals in the world on this side of the planet. And, and I've spent time with them, I've gotten to know them. There is so much advancement in modern medicine, the way that modern medicine thinks on this side of the world, because of the buy off that you have from the regulatory authorities, that you have from royal families in this region. And this guest today is one of those podcast rare podcasts that I think I'm going to go back and watch and probably end up taking notes. This man is an absolute wealth of knowledge in topics that I am deeply interested in, that you're deeply interested in, not the least of which is peptide weight loss hormone therapy for younger, the younger generation that wants to be on testosterone replacement therapy, but it's too early to start them. Guys, buckle your seats this is going to be an incredible ride and I think you're going to get as much out of it as I intend to get out of it. Welcome to the podcast, Noah Lathe.
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Noah Lathe
Thank you, Gary, for having me.
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Gary Breca
You're, you're an, you're an amazing human man. I've. We just left Noah's clinic, a longevity called the Longevity Clinic here in, in Dubai. He's got a number of these around the area and I did in use Pheresis. And why don't we, why don't we start by, you know, describing the procedure that I just did. It's a blood filtration procedure, has to do with the plasma. But what can I expect? What did I experience and what was the objective of what I did today in your clinic?
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Noah Lathe
So, yeah, that's actually a very good question. You see, there is a delay of, between medical science coming mainstream and becoming discovered. And the average delay is 17.2 years in one of them. It exists for a couple of decades.
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Gary Breca
Right. Plasma change has been around for forever.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly. The difference between TPE and is that it doesn't take anything from your body and keeps it away. It brings it everything back. Right? So albumin and all the other biomarks, it keeps it in your body. The only thing that it takes, which you can see it is the microplastic, the, the inflammatory protein and heavy metals and other toxins. And you could see a lot about.
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Gary Breca
This on my platform too.
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Noah Lathe
And, and I like, because, you know, not everyone has two, three, four hours a day to work on their health. So I like to work on the Pareto principle. Of the Pareto principle. What is the 20 of the 20% that you can do that that will optimize your health, your energy, your brain, whatever you want to optimize. And taking toxins is one of these five elements that I believe and push into our patients to do consistently and systematically.
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Gary Breca
Right. Because, you know, we live in a toxic world. Right. And you know, what was astounding to me and continues to just blow my mind are the, the toxins that are found in my blood. You know, glyphosate. It's not a shocker, but I, I am very diligent about what I eat, but I do still do eat out in restaurants. I travel quite a bit. I do my best, but I, I had high amounts of glyphosate in my blood. Lower now thanks to things like in, in.
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But also things like jet fuels and butyl and these flame retardants, fire acc.
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Know these chemicals like yes, I Fly commercial airplanes, and I, you know, sometimes fly private and I walk out on the tarmac. But I mean, it can't be the amount of jet fuel. It's got to be coming from the aerosols in the environment.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly.
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Gary Breca
Yeah. And so in fesis, you know, they, they put a line in one of my arteries and, and into another one. Veins, both sides. And they took the blood out, put it through a filtration machine, and then put it back in. We were done. And I'll post pictures about this. We were done. You, you actually could see at the bottom of this big triangular bag of fluid the heavy metals and the microplastics. So I'm not aware of a microplastic detox other than something like this.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
Are you?
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Noah Lathe
No. That is, there are some slower binders to microplastics, but not, not so heavy and so intense. And it's, it's created obviously, for acute. In, in hospitals, for acute intoxications. And that's why now we use it as preventive.
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Gary Breca
Right, right. So, yeah, I, I, you know, I've read some studies that estimate that we have more than a credit card of microplastics in our bodies at any given time. Enough that if you were to pull it all out and, and melt it down. Yeah. You'd be able to make your own credit card.
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Noah Lathe
And microplastic actually is one of the. From. We have a couple of oncologists and neuropathologists that study how toxins affect mutations and cancer. And it's one of the.
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Proofs that microplastic does induce or help proliferate cancer faster in your body.
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Gary Breca
Yeah. And also that it's a part of the plaquing process. You know, that's also what's fascinating. This fibrinogen bonding that occurs when cholesterol is oxidized and begins to make these plaques that narrow our arteries. You know, they find heavy amounts of, of microplastics in these, in these plaque formations. And so being prophylactic and preventative about getting these things out of your body already, as we sat down today, I said, man, I'm, I, I feel really clear, and I kind of feel good all the time. I'm, I'm kind of a bad test subject because I have energy all the time, and I, I feel pretty good most always. But the, the, the reports that come out that I see when these filters are flushed and the contents that are coming out of the vast. I mean, you've never seen anybody do this treatment and not have no.
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Noah Lathe
Something as we Joke leave is not how much toxic you are. But. Yes, but it's not if. But it's more how much.
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Gary Breca
Yeah, right.
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Noah Lathe
It's that's especially with microplastic. And also we get a lot of people that wants to be on hormones or peptides or whatever treatments. Cleaning your receptors, which is detoxifying metals and toxins and microplastics will make the procedure just much more bioavailable and better absorbable.
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Gary Breca
Well, we know that if you clean the terrain before you do any procedure like a stem cell procedure or an exosome or natural killer cell, you know, you have less distracting the immune system. I've been talking a lot on my platform lately about this, the theory. It's not really a theory. It's proven scientific fact of immuno fatigue, you know, slow, progressive overwhelming of the immune system over time. And these microtoxins are one of the things that do it. And now at least we have mechanisms that can remove these from the body. You talked about five other pillars and you said one of them was things like blood filtration.
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Noah Lathe
No, so, so the five elements to, to never be sick, to always be on. On high level of output is taking out all the elimination of toxins, microplastics and toxins.
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Gary Breca
Heavy metals.
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Noah Lathe
Heavy metals. And that's one fundamental element that will, that is the 20 of the 20%, let's say.
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Gary Breca
Okay, and then what are the other four elements?
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Noah Lathe
So the second. Yeah, definitely the second thing that we focus on our clients, on the family and friends, is your gut. You know we have this, you know, Hippocrates said it. We always also said starts with all diseases, start with the guts and end with the guts.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
And, and actually there are seven stages of diseases. Seven phases. You know, the, the stage seven is what we called the fungation stage and stage one is innervation. So stage seven is like cancer, autoimmune disease, neurogenic disease, diabetes, all the nasty diseases. Stage one is gut problems. Gut problems. It can be as simple that I'm not going having a bowel movement every day. It can be that the look out of it and how it comes out is not ideal. It's too hard or too soft or too strong or small pieces. Just by studying your gut, we already know that in X years if you continue like this, it's going to go to stage two. And that's why we get people and they said I don't understand my father, how he got cancer or how he got a heart attack. He trained five times per week. He eats Quite healthy. But suddenly this happens. Well, no, he didn't quite eat quite healthy. You know, there was some processes beforehand that he did not listen to it because we forgot to listen right before to listen on the symptoms.
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Gary Breca
So where does. Because I want to focus on the gut. I spend a lot of time talking about the gut. And I happen to agree with you. I think all things start and end with the gut. I was first turned on to this by a doctor named Dr. Perlmutter. He wrote a book called Grain Brain and he wrote another one called the Gut Brain Connection. And it was the first time that I really drew my attention. This was years ago, more than 10 years ago, 12 years ago drew my attention to just a vast array of issues that human beings suffer from that come from the gut. You know, in eczema and psoriasis, there are these specific classes of bacteria that are missing in the vast majority of these patients. In. In autism and neurodevelopmental disorders. You see very similar classes of bacteria in Akkermansia being linked. Deficiencies in akromancy being to make, you know, linked to cancer. So where does a good gut protocol start? Because I think people have paralysis of analysis over how do we treat?
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Noah Lathe
Yes, yes, yes.
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Gary Breca
How do you test it? How do you fix it?
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Noah Lathe
Yes, yes, That's a very good question. So first, just to reply what you said, for example, autistic children, the protocol will be totally different than if it's just someone who has d. Constant diarrhea or constant constipation, which by the way, diarrhea is another form of constipation. So for we did it with 82 children where we did stool transplantation.
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Gary Breca
Fecal transplant.
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Noah Lathe
Yes, exactly. And the effect were amazing. But no one has to go to that level. Right.
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For a normal person is first studying his gut. Studying his gut means seeing what kind of parasite there is, what kind of bacteria overgrowth. There is doing some tests like sibo, like. Like breath tests. And you can do.
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Gary Breca
You. And you do with the breath test is for sibo, but you do these through a stool test. You take a stool sample, you send it into a lab.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly. But sibo, now they have a cheaper way to touch just to a breath.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
So that's on one hand if you just wants to make sure everything is okay.
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Gary Breca
I'm saying if I'm starting my journey, you would say start with a stool test for the gut. Get that information.
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Noah Lathe
If you have problems, if you don't have problems, like if you come in a room and there is mold, there and there is garbage everywhere. You don't go there and say, let's test what kind of bacterias are on the floor. No, just clean the room.
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Gary Breca
Right, right.
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Noah Lathe
And that's it. That will do 99 of the. So what you want to do is clean once or twice per year. Your guts. Like, how many times do you brush your teeth per year? Stupid question, Noah. Every day, of course. Well, how much do you do that with your guts? Oh, I never did it. Okay, well, let's start doing that. So how do we do that?
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Gary Breca
Yeah, is.
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Noah Lathe
It's very specifically, very specific. It's a whole protocol where we clean first, we pause, we give a break, a vacation to your guts. Which means on a three, four days water fast. Right. Huge fan that already will calm the system, will kill and clean up the zombie cell, the senescent cell. And then we add very specific herbs and specific protocol where five, six times per day you drink a glass with bentonite clay and psyllium husk and adds all these compounds, herbs that clean the gut and scratch the walls of your intestines. And when you scratch the walls of your intestines, suddenly after day three, four, five, there is the mucoid plague that comes all in one out of your body.
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Gary Breca
And really, not to be too gross, guys, but this is literally like having a shedded snake skin really come out of the back out of your body. And it panics people and freaks people out, but, you know, they're on the inside luminal wall of your gut. I mean, there's only a single cell layer separating your.
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Environment. And this gets coated with these mucoid plaques.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
And. And if you think about that, that's. That's not allowing us to absorb nutrients.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly, exactly. And, and, and it's like painting a filter. And the old nutrients that you ate that got stuck between the mucoid plaque and the walls, and they start there to, to mold and to create a lot of this balance, this biosis of your gut. And when, when we take it out, people, they told me that they got food out of their body they didn't eat for seven years, 10 years.
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Gary Breca
Wow.
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Noah Lathe
It was stuck on the, on the walls of the, of the gut, of the intestines. So just cleaning that is a great habit.
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Gary Breca
So silo husk, benzonite, clay, which is a binder.
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Noah Lathe
Yeah. But all type of binders and some hers. But I will advise you always to do it with someone that has experience in this, because you're going to have a healing crisis and some people are going to have a healing crisis. What does it mean is you go, you do that, and then on day two or three, you feel worse than day one and you think, this is not working for me. No, it's actually working. I always congratulate patients when they're feeling worse. Means the body is working.
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To clean itself. And when I got married to my wife.
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Our honeymoon, we did a cleanse.
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Gary Breca
Okay.
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Noah Lathe
And on day. On day. On day three, she got eczema all on her body. And she said, I'm not sure if you, like, really love me or not. You know, like, why are we doing this?
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Gary Breca
Sounds like a great honeymoon to me, man.
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Noah Lathe
It was because I wanted to start our.
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Future in a clean on a clean page. Right, Right.
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Noah Lathe
So if you want to think about making someone pregnant, if you have brain fog, if you have, if you're tired, if not building muscles, if you have erection problems or low libido, like anything, start with the gut. Yeah, right. You clean that, suddenly you have more energy to fight any other problem yet you have. But you and I get a lot of clients that have emotional responses, like the big guys that are crying suddenly for nothing. Yeah, because they released so much. There is a reason why we say my gut feeling. Well, is there actually a really connection as you said, with, with the, the writer, with your brain?
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
92% of, of your serotonin is created in the guts.
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Gary Breca
That's true.
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Noah Lathe
And guess, guess what? Serotonin is a precursor for melatonin. So your sleep is regulated in your gut. You have 400 times more receptors, melatonin receptors in your gut than your brain. So if you cannot sleep, optimize your guts, your hormones in the guts, your energy in the guts. So everything is in the guts.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
So that's why.
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Gary Breca
So first it's like this. Sorry, go ahead.
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Noah Lathe
Yeah, so that's why you, you, you want to focus on the needle mover. And your gut is a needle mover. And if you do it twice, one, twice per, per year is my advice. Not more than three days. To be honest, you. There are some people who do seven, 10 days. We see a lot of sarcopenia or like loss of muscle mass if it's too long, not needed. Your optimal 3 days, 3 day water fast with a, with a protocol.
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Gary Breca
So glad you said that. I take people through three day water fasts all the time, so I'm happy you support that. So three day water fast. Then begin this protocol to cleanse the gut asylum, husks, herbs, binders.
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Noah Lathe
With someone that infrared sauna you can add. So you can stack many things. Yeah, you can stack many things, but the, the root is cleaning your guts. Combining this with hydrocolone therapy, definitely adding hydrochlone therapy to it, which is colonics. It's different than colonics. Okay, what is the difference? Hydrochlorine therapy is, is a, is a bit deeper. And my preference is not machine because you, you cannot feel the pressure on the machine. I prefer self regulated because you feel when something is stuck and then you can massage it and then take it out slower than a machine, which is better.
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Gary Breca
And so this is like coffee enemas.
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Noah Lathe
It can be. I start always with coffee enema in the first days and then transit it to wheat grad juice or, or any other type of, of added.
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Binders of, or added feeding nutritions.
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Gary Breca
Now if, if somebody's gonna, you know, that's a home therapy. So how many days of these colon hydrotherapy do you do? So so you've done a three day water fast and in combination with using the xylem husks and the binders which are actually working your way through the small intestine and haven't dumped into the Colon yet?
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
Colon hydrotherapy is only going to work on the colon. Right? That upside down. You. That's that ascending transverse descending colon. And you use these home enemas.
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Noah Lathe
Well, I don't use home enemas.
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Gary Breca
Okay.
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Noah Lathe
I prefer to go to a place to do it.
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Gary Breca
Okay. Because you can't do it to yourself.
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Noah Lathe
So you can like when you're lying, you're lying. You. You want to push your, you massage or someone massage you or massage yourself to, to bit open the, the, the heart stool and it's black when it comes out. It's black. It has been there for many years. Right. So. So you want to push it sometimes with the herbs and the hydro. Colon therapy is just makes everything easier.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
And, and you, you going to be tired. You're going to be to feel slugged. There are some healing symptoms that you're going to have. You want to have a team around you that do it. You can do it at home. I did it many times at home.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
But I prefer to do it at a place.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
And the water fast is three days. But the whole procedure is seven to 10 days.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
Because how you enter such a fast is as important and how you go out of it.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
So I usually start with two days only bone broth.
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Gary Breca
This guy just read my, my fasting guide. No, that's exactly what I do too.
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Noah Lathe
A lot of people do juicing like vegetable juice or fruit juice. Not my advice.
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Gary Breca
Not my advice. Too high on the glycemic.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly. That's if it's fruit juice and too much oxalates. If it's only vegetables. Right. So. So I prefer bone broth first two days while doing colon hydrotherapy, while doing. Taking herbs to, to make everything softer and just to. Because what's, what happens is when you stop using digestive enzymes, the digestive enzymes, they are on the bench and they say, hey guys, we're not doing anything. Let's change our function to metabolic enzymes. And they start repairing your body.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
While you are in bone broth phase and then you go in water phase and then you got out of it the same how you entered again another two days of bone broth.
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Gary Breca
Two days of bone broth going in, three days of water, two days of bone broth coming out. Exactly. And during that time you're doing colon hydrotherapy. And during that time you're also taking herbs and binders to, to rest and.
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Noah Lathe
You'Re going to sleep way longer because your body is, is really working. You're going to. Might have eczema. Because your body is detoxifying so fast, the organs are not keeping up, and then they use the skin. It's. I always congratulate our patient when that happens. It means you had a lot of things stuck and it's going out of you and you need to keep continuing it until it stop getting your. Your eczema and things going out of your.
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Gary Breca
Wow.
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Noah Lathe
Yeah. And. And, you know, sometimes I feel much more tired, but sometimes, like I'm at midnight, open my eyes and I said to my wife, let's go out for a. For a walk. And we went out for a walk because we had so much energy because the body was in Homo stage and it had the energy.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
And we went and we. We hear suddenly in the forest. It was in Thailand party. We went to that party. It was middle of the jungle. We partied harder than people. People came to us and said, what you have? Can we have it also.
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Gary Breca
Take, you know, what we call in hydrotherapy. Bro. Some bentonite clay and bone broth. Yeah. You're not. You're not the life of the party bringing bone broth to a rave. So, you know, and then. And coming out of the. The bone broth on the other side. And now it's time to go in and repopulate the gut, I would assume.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
And what mechanisms are you using to repopulate the gut? I mean, I'm a huge fan of like, you know, fermented vegetables, things like that, but.
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Noah Lathe
Yes, yes. So that depends of where you are in your life. If you come to us and you have hashimoto, if you come to us and you have leaky gut ibd, then we're gonna put you on a severe gut reset protocol, which we start with it, but we will add BPC157. Oral, not injection. Yes, oral.
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Gary Breca
Huge.
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Noah Lathe
To rebuild the lining of your gut. Right. We're gonna add L glutamine to it because we've seen huge benefit. 1/1 becomes 15 once you add BPC without glutamine.
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Gary Breca
Without glutamine, yes. Wow. Yeah. And why is that? That's an amino acid.
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Noah Lathe
Yes. I mean, that rebuilds the lining of your gut.
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Gary Breca
Okay.
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Noah Lathe
It's very interesting. We've seen great result with that. We will add essential amino acids. I see you have it here. We added injection way just to. If someone is sick. If not. This is super.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
So we will add a whole couple of things to rebalance if they have an overgrowth of parasites, you know, we will. We usually add always during that period, parasite cleanse usually herbal.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
But if someone has a big overgrowth of parasites, then that's the only moment where, sorry to say it, we go chemical.
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Gary Breca
Yeah, yeah, you go pharmaceutical. And I'm actually a fan of fenbendazole and ivermectin and you know, because, you know, I've seen miracles with these. Yes. And there are countries all over the world that have been using these for decades that very safely. And they do regular parasite cleanses.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
In fact there's a, you know, there is a theory, a well documented evidence based theory on multiple sclerosis that this is related to parasitic imbalance. You know, when, when we lose our healthy parasitic flora.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
You have an overgrowth of the pathogenic parasites. Not all parasites are bad. Right. I mean some of the parasites, that's, that's a misconception.
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Noah Lathe
Yeah, that's, that's. Oh, parasites create cancer. Parasites creates a lot of diseases. No parasite profilterate. When your body is weak, which is when you have cancer and Ms. And other things. So they, they. Yeah, you wanna, once you are there, then we go chemically.
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Gary Breca
Yeah. So, so and again, this information is coming from a stool test. So if you get this stool test back and you have all these parasitic floors, then all of a sudden your, your need to do an intense parasitic.
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Noah Lathe
Cleanse is, becomes and we advise PCR ST testing like DNA of the parasite you. Because parasites are amazing in, in playing hide and seek.
- [26:41]
Gary Breca
Yes. So you have to actually look at the exudate from a parasite, the, A parasite stool, if you will.
- [26:47]
Noah Lathe
Yeah, parasite stool.
- [26:48]
Gary Breca
Yeah. Because these parasites, they outgast, they create all kinds of other compounds those go into the stool. And if you send it through a PCR machine, this polymera, polymerase chain reaction machine, which is the same way that they test for Covid antibodies and I mean the COVID virus, you, you get a very accurate profile of what it is, you know, the species and the genus and everything. You can go right after.
- [27:09]
Noah Lathe
Yeah. And once you know which type, you can also.
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Create a protocol that's faster for that type.
- [27:16]
Gary Breca
Right. And then, so now you handle the parasites. Where do the probiotics come in? And then walk me through a, you know, a diet that you would recommend.
- [27:27]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
For these kinds of.
- [27:29]
Noah Lathe
So, so that's a, a very important topic. Probiotics and prebiotics. We get a lot of men and women. Oh, I'm already on probiotics, so my gut is good. I don't understand why I have diarrhea all the time. Well, because too much of Everything is too much. Right. So. So we get a lot of women who have candida from taking probiotics.
- [27:49]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [27:50]
Noah Lathe
So you want to supported with some probiotics. I prefer just natural. If you're healthy and you just want to optimize after a cleanse. Natural root, which is natural root. I always add fermented food in every meal. It's better for digestion, it's better for your prura and fauna. It's better. And it has been in our lives for thousands and thousands of years. And I'm a believer in the marriage between science, evidence based science and my great grandmother recipes. Why? Because you have to think like this. The older the food, the older the habits, the more our body has adapted to it. Carrots are 300 years, bananas are 700 years. But Chlorella and bone broth exist for millions of years. And we have adapted to that old food. And like fermented food is one of them much longer. So our body has adapted to it much longer. That's why we absorb 98% of. Of of algaes comparing to 17% of carrots. Right. It's because our body has adapted.
- [28:59]
Gary Breca
So you, you would very often put them on a cholera or chlorella.
- [29:04]
Noah Lathe
Chlorella. We have seen huge benefits for people who don't want or can't do in aspheresis or other things. And within two years you can take 98% of the heavy metals if you have the right type of chlorella and the right type of protocol.
- [29:21]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [29:22]
Noah Lathe
So for me, for reversing or maintaining chlorella, protocol is amazing.
- [29:28]
Gary Breca
Do you take chlorella?
- [29:29]
Noah Lathe
I take chlorella, yes.
- [29:30]
Gary Breca
And how do you take it? In a capsule form or.
- [29:32]
Noah Lathe
No, that's the. No, that's not how you want to take it.
- [29:34]
Gary Breca
Okay.
- [29:35]
Noah Lathe
You wanted that. The cell membrane is broken. It's organic and powder form. Powder form, Powder form. One tablespoon. Perfect.
- [29:42]
Gary Breca
Doesn't need a little bit of water.
- [29:44]
Noah Lathe
Yeah, with water? Yeah, yeah, definitely with water.
- [29:45]
Gary Breca
Mix it up and just mix it.
- [29:47]
Noah Lathe
Up and drink it. And then don't take any supplements or minerals before 30 minutes. Before or after.
- [29:52]
Gary Breca
Okay. And you do this daily?
- [29:55]
Noah Lathe
I, I do that. No, I do, I cycle it three months on, three months off.
- [29:58]
Gary Breca
Okay. And so, and then now that we've walked them out of there and they're probably feeling a lot better, the skin clears up. Yeah. Having irregular bowel movements, which, you know, I think is, is one of the easiest ways to determine whether or not you're metabolically healthy is whether or not you get up and within 45 minutes of waking, you're having a bowel movement. Because if you're not, something's something, something, something is wrong. Or if you have those irritable bowel syndrome, like, you know, symptoms, the gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, irritability and cramping. We're not actually supposed to ever be paying attention to our gut. Like our gut should not be something that draws our attention to it.
- [30:36]
Noah Lathe
During the Course 38, until 1938, colon hidden therapy was a room in every hospital in the world.
- [30:45]
Gary Breca
Really?
- [30:45]
Noah Lathe
Yes. And they, they took it out.
- [30:49]
Gary Breca
Who? The Rockefellers.
- [30:51]
Noah Lathe
Not mentioning names.
- [30:52]
Gary Breca
Okay, yeah, probably Rockefellers. Sorry, guys. Yeah, so, so I, I, first of all, I agree with you that the, that the gut can be the root of all evil. You know, another fascinating area that you and I overlap in a lot. I think you have a greater depth of knowledge than even I do is in the peptide world. I've been a fan of peptides for well over a decade. I've done a lot of studying, researching on, on peptides. It's nice to see now in the United States, our federal government is beginning to widen the lanes for peptides. For a while there, the, the, the lights were getting very dim on peptides. But for I, I think everybody listening to this podcast has heard of peptides. Walk me through what they are, what they do, and then let's take some classes of goals that people have, okay? Burning fat, building lean muscle, improving their skin, brain fog energy. And then, you know, the folks that just want to be on the longevity bandwagon, Telomerase lengthening pellets, peptides and what have you.
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Gary Breca
Well, let's start with the big one, which is fat metabolism. Because nobody that says I want to lose weight means anything other than I Want to lose fat, Right. That's really what.
- [32:53]
Noah Lathe
That's exactly it. Because sometimes we get patients. And I said, well, you're not going to lose weight because I'm going to make you build muscles and muscles weight more than fat.
- [33:04]
Gary Breca
Right?
- [33:04]
Noah Lathe
Right. So that's very good point. You say fat loss.
- [33:07]
Gary Breca
Right?
- [33:07]
Noah Lathe
Right.
- [33:09]
I mean, look, peptides are like the biblical medical description is that there are between 2 to 50 chains of amino acids. Right. The truth is we have also some that are 60 and 70s.
- [33:23]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [33:23]
Noah Lathe
But let's say 2 to 50. And what do they do? They actually don't do anything. They don't add anything to your, to your body, except they are messengers, molecules. So they tell your body to bring your body back into.
- [33:40]
Equi. Balance. Right. While if you take hormones, it push your biology, it overrides your own biology. And peptides don't override, they bring it just back to how it should be.
- [33:55]
Supplements, minerals or vitamins. They are building blocks, Right. Peptides don't build anything. They just tell you, buddy, go on. Lower inflammation, higher blood pressure, lower blood pressure and they bring it back to homeostasis.
- [34:08]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [34:09]
Noah Lathe
That is, that is what peptides are. So why is it you cannot do anti aging without using peptides? Is because as you get older, you have 250,000.
- [34:21]
Peptides in your body. We have only synthesized 7,200 of them. And we produce in our lab 82 of them. And these are when you get older. The reason why, for example, your son is if he had an injury, he will heal much faster than you and me is because the amount of peptides and the activity of his peptides is way more than yours and mine. That's why we have to take it in an exogenous form.
- [34:51]
Gary Breca
In exogenous forms, which from outside the body.
- [34:54]
Noah Lathe
Yeah. Will reignite our own production.
- [34:57]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [34:58]
Noah Lathe
So whenever someone comes to me and said, hey, what is the peptide I should take? I said, you should not take any peptides. What do you mean you sell and you produce them? I said, well, I don't know anything of you. And peptides are magnifiers. If you have, for example, there are peptides that will induce the production of your own growth hormone.
- [35:19]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [35:19]
Noah Lathe
Like epomeron and cgc.
- [35:21]
Gary Breca
And I've been on those for years. Yes, on and off.
- [35:23]
Noah Lathe
Yeah, exactly. But if you are, if your own bank account of growth hormone is zero, they're gonna ignite something that is not existing.
- [35:35]
Gary Breca
Right, Right.
- [35:36]
Noah Lathe
So whatever you, when you want to go on peptides, there are a couple of things you want to pay attention to as a foundation number one is do blood work with a doctor that understand preventive medicine and understands peptides. Why? Because you can take peptides and they can be not working. And then you come to me said oh this, they're not working. Peptides doesn't work on me.
- [35:57]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [35:57]
Noah Lathe
That's because you have zero on your bank accounts. There are supplements that down regulate peptides. There are supplements that upregulate peptides. There are peptides that down regulate other peptides. Right. So all these protocols before actually taking peptides, you want to make sure your body will actually accept it and, and make it stronger.
- [36:18]
Gary Breca
So what are some of the ways to do that? Looking at like your IGF one many. Looking at other markers, hormones. Okay.
- [36:25]
Noah Lathe
Is the foundation of pushing peptides. Peptides is like money. It will magnify who you are.
- [36:31]
Gary Breca
Right, Right.
- [36:32]
Noah Lathe
So, so peptides, if you were, if your hormones are not imbalance, if you have too low hormones or too high because of cortisol, then peptides. My advice will still to be taking peptides to do symptoms but not the root. The root will still be first to optimize your hormones. And often we do it parallel just to have fast result. Because people think oh wow, everything is working. So you want to do it parallel.
- [37:00]
Gary Breca
And sometimes you use peptides to optimize hormones. Yes. To be.
- [37:03]
Noah Lathe
If you are depends of your age. Yeah, but we always tell them, look, the reason why you have solar hormones is not because you have low peptides, because you're doing other things. Maybe stop sleeping at 2am and let's go to bed at 10pm Right. Maybe you should stop drinking seed oils or eating them. Maybe you should stop eating some things, adding some supplements. We do the foundation first and then adding the peptides. And we have a lot of patients that look, no, just fix me. I just want peptides. I'm not going to change my life. Fine, we're going to do it. But we have to educate you that the foundation is xyz.
- [37:41]
Gary Breca
Right, Right.
- [37:41]
Noah Lathe
Which is what you're talking about. The gut, the sleep, sunlight, the grounding, the training, the strength training. We build that and then we add peptides and then you can add stem cells and gene therapy and whatever you want on top of it.
- [37:53]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [37:54]
Noah Lathe
But the foundation is, is you want to work first on the foundation.
- [37:57]
Gary Breca
So let's, let's talk about some broad categories of peptides. So, so fat burners like walk me down the road of MOT, C AOD maybe something like 5Amino, 1 MQ.
- [38:09]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [38:09]
Gary Breca
We love that I love 5 minutes as well. And, and, and, and, and then, and then we'll shift to some other categories because I have seen for example, my, my production manager, Max, as you, as you know, he fell and, and broke his collarbone here in Dubai at Ski Dubai, skiing in the middle of the desert. And you know what's so funny is every time you tell somebody he broke his collarbone skiing, their first question is, are you a good skier? I'm like, well, obviously not. He just, just told you he injured himself skiing. So, so I'm, I'm loading Max up with, with, with peptide and any guys, young healthy guys. So you know, CGC 1295 and IPOM, Morlin, BPC157TB500GHKCU, copper peptide. The things that are really good at wound and tissue repair. He had a metal plate put in. So now you've got soft tissue damage, you've got bone repair, you've got connective tissue. So you have a lot of different structures in the body that need to heal. So, but let's, let's start with, with fat metabolism. Okay, where, what are some of your favorites? How do they act differently and is it okay to pair them together?
- [39:20]
Noah Lathe
Yes, yes, very good question. So GLP1, for example, is how many people know about fat loss? Like, right. Tirzepatite, semaglutide, retatutide. I don't like to prescribe that unless someone is morbid.
- [39:36]
Gary Breca
Morbidly obese. Yeah, morbidly. It can be life saving. Sure.
- [39:39]
Noah Lathe
Then can be life saving.
- [39:40]
Gary Breca
Yeah.
- [39:40]
Noah Lathe
But if not, there are many other peptides that will make you the powerhouse of your body and the energy efficiency much higher, which is your mitochondria. Motsi is one of them.
- [39:53]
Gary Breca
Yes.
- [39:53]
Noah Lathe
And if you pair MOTSI with NAD plus, not IV, but micro injections daily.
- [39:58]
Gary Breca
Micro injections, 50 milligrams a day. Yeah. 15.
- [40:02]
Noah Lathe
Yeah. Or you can do it three times per week, mega dose, depends of your receptor sensitivity. You, you have way more benefits. And then you can add SS31, you can add AOD, you can add many other, but the foundation is usually on mitochondrial level. And that's why Motsi and SS31 together with an NAD plus are amazing for that.
- [40:26]
Gary Breca
Okay. Motsi, which is a true mitochondrial peptide. There are only two of them, I think.
- [40:29]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [40:30]
Gary Breca
So Motsi, SS31.
- [40:32]
Noah Lathe
Yes. And NAD plus and micro injection to feed the mitochondria on a daily day to day basis.
- [40:39]
Gary Breca
So that would be, and I hate to keep trying to make you say Something you don't want to stay. But that would be like a favorite. It's my favorite burning peptide stack.
- [40:47]
Noah Lathe
Yeah, it's my favorite because it's efficient, it's effective, it work fast and it works on the root cause. And as a byproduct, you feel good, you feel energy. Yeah, I think it's amazing.
- [40:59]
Gary Breca
And when you do them in the morning.
- [41:00]
Noah Lathe
Yes, you wanted Motsi, you wanted to do it. So you actually want to take every peptides on a fasted.
- [41:09]
Gary Breca
Basis.
- [41:10]
Noah Lathe
Basis. The reason is because you don't want other elements to compete with the pathways.
- [41:16]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [41:17]
Noah Lathe
And that's why, especially with blood sugar.
- [41:21]
Gary Breca
Yeah, yeah.
- [41:21]
Noah Lathe
So that's why Mutsi fast always and plus fasted.
- [41:24]
Gary Breca
So can you take any of those three peptides orally?
- [41:28]
Noah Lathe
Whoever tells you I have oral peptides that are as powerful because it's a new technique, a new science. He is BSing you. Yeah, except BPC157.
- [41:38]
Gary Breca
I agree.
- [41:38]
Noah Lathe
Except KPV.
- [41:40]
Gary Breca
And accept another good one for the gut.
- [41:42]
Noah Lathe
Yes. Another one with the guts and cerebrosin. These are only the three that I will vouch that they can work orally.
- [41:50]
Gary Breca
And cerebral lysin is. The Russians did the vast majority of the research on this peptide. I've used that peptide on my own mother. I had a very scary moment with my mother. She, she had bilateral knee replacement and.
- [42:06]
She got put into a rehab facility, inpatient rehab facility to rehabilitate her. You know, gait and everything to get her back walking. This facility did not get her out of bed for 45 days. So she laid in bed for 45 days, except they would hobble her over to basically wash her down, shower, she would get out of bed, go to the bathroom, get back into bed. Her cognitive function declined so quickly that.
- [42:34]
When I walked into the room with my children, and I'm an only son, she barely recognized me, barely recognized my children. Felt like she was being held against her will. She was very confused. It was a really, it was an awful lot time. I started peeling back the layers of what happened. It, you know, turns out she was sedentary for this long period of time. She had been sedentary before the knee surgery. But one of the peptides that I used to walk her out of this was cerebralysin. And I, I went through some channels and got real Russian cerebral icin. I used the injection and then maintained it with the oral cerebralysin thereafter. I cannot tell you the change in her in just a few weeks.
- [43:18]
Noah Lathe
It's amazing.
- [43:18]
Gary Breca
It was like the Lights were off and they came on.
- [43:22]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [43:23]
Gary Breca
So I have a deeply personal experience with that. And. And of course I'm not licensed practice medicine. So when I say I've used it in clients, the physicians I've worked with, I've used it in my clients and with some pretty phenomenal results. So. So fat burning peptides. Let's move over to cognitive peptides.
- [43:42]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [43:42]
Gary Breca
Because we're going there anyway.
- [43:43]
Noah Lathe
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- [43:44]
Gary Breca
Cerebralysis.
- [43:45]
Noah Lathe
Yeah.
- [43:48]
And again, it also depends what kind. For example, with children that are autistic, we use CMAX and Clank with huge amount of success.
- [43:59]
Gary Breca
Autistic children.
- [44:01]
Now Selenk is an anti anxiolytic. Yes, right, yes.
- [44:05]
Noah Lathe
But both work very powerful when they are used together for neurogenesis, for neuroplasticity. Yeah, it's very. We've seen very beneficially, especially if you add heavy metal detoxifications with autistic children.
- [44:22]
Gary Breca
I totally agree with that. Wow. Yeah. And I want to get into heavy.
- [44:26]
Noah Lathe
Metal details and then you add the goods, the guts, what you said call it stool. The fecal transplant.
- [44:33]
Gary Breca
Yeah.
- [44:33]
Noah Lathe
I mean, we have seen up to 90% that you will not recognize the child anymore that he has any type of autism.
- [44:40]
Gary Breca
Wow. Now I want to talk about that for sure. But getting back to the cognitive peptides. Celanx, cmax.
- [44:49]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [44:50]
Gary Breca
Dihexa.
- [44:51]
Noah Lathe
Yes, yes. Cerebral, obviously.
- [44:54]
Gary Breca
Cerebralysin, probably also optimizing the gut.
- [44:56]
Noah Lathe
BPC157 has a huge on effect on the guts.
- [45:02]
Gary Breca
Yes, I use it all the time for clients with.
- [45:04]
Noah Lathe
If you're talking only about peptides, we do a lot of things for cognitive. Actually, one of our favorite patients is the world memory champion, Orkan Ibadov.
- [45:12]
Gary Breca
How do you become the world memory champion?
- [45:13]
Noah Lathe
Well, a lot of people don't know that there is actually the Olympics for the brain.
- [45:17]
Gary Breca
No.
- [45:17]
Noah Lathe
Yes. Yeah.
- [45:18]
Gary Breca
For.
- [45:18]
Noah Lathe
For remembering names, remembering pictures, remembering numbers, remembering languages. Speaking language. Yes, yes.
- [45:24]
Gary Breca
Wow.
- [45:25]
Noah Lathe
There's a lady who speaks 72 languages.
- [45:27]
Gary Breca
No, she.
- [45:28]
Noah Lathe
She learned one language a month.
- [45:30]
Gary Breca
Are you serious?
- [45:31]
Noah Lathe
It. It is when, when I told him how I don't have this skill. I, I think you're born with it. He kind of killed that mindset that I had in the past, which is you are born with a good or bad memory.
- [45:43]
Gary Breca
No, no, no.
- [45:44]
Noah Lathe
No one has a good or bad memory. It's if you have a trained or untrained memory. And I know him when he wasn't world champion and he was just a normal guy with an obsession to train his brain.
- [45:57]
Gary Breca
Wow.
- [45:57]
Noah Lathe
Yeah.
- [45:58]
Gary Breca
That's amazing.
- [45:59]
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- [46:35]
Gary Breca
So for people that are looking to improve cognitive function, especially, you know, lots of us have, well, lots of us just feel like we don't have the focus and concentration that we once had. Yes. So those are non patho, pathological kinds of issues. But then there are the pathologies. Alzheimer's, dementia.
- [46:51]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [46:51]
Gary Breca
Early onset cognitive decline. And a lot of us have aging parents and we want to do something for them. So how are these peptides administered? I mean I, I have used cell length through a nasal spray effectively in, in some clients. Never orally.
- [47:06]
Noah Lathe
Yes, but orally doesn't.
- [47:08]
Gary Breca
Yeah, it doesn't work.
- [47:09]
Noah Lathe
I totally like there's injection or there's nasal. I prefer the nasal because it just go faster to the brain.
- [47:14]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [47:14]
Noah Lathe
Than injection. But some people take it as injection also. So we produce both.
- [47:17]
Gary Breca
By the way, these peptides are, are safe ways to.
- [47:22]
Enhance our cognitive function. And.
- [47:24]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [47:24]
Gary Breca
And what, what is their mechanism of action? How is cerebralysin, Celanx, C Max Dihexa? What are they doing? I mean are they, are they stimulating the brain like caffeine? Are they reducing inflammation in the brain? Are they?
- [47:39]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [47:39]
Gary Breca
Okay, what is their mechanism?
- [47:41]
Noah Lathe
They reduce inflammation, but they bring it to homeostasis. So how your brain was. It brings it back how it is the neuroplasticity, the connections and the receptor sensitivity. Some of them clean the receptors, the Russians, as you said. And that's why actually our team most comes from, from ex Soviets and Russian countries is because they have been the longest studying brain and immunology and longevity than any other country in the world.
- [48:13]
Gary Breca
Wow.
- [48:13]
Noah Lathe
Right. And they all worked with, with Flamer Kevinson, which was the private anti aging doctor of Putin and.
- [48:22]
And even Gorbachev. Up to Gorbachev.
- [48:24]
Gary Breca
Wow.
- [48:24]
Noah Lathe
Right? Yeah. God bless all. He died two, two years ago. And.
- [48:30]
For me like working with peptides as I told you, is another layer. But if you want to optimize your brain, you want to optimize Your hormones first.
- [48:40]
Gary Breca
Yes. And your sleep.
- [48:42]
Noah Lathe
Definitely your sleep. Definitely your hormones, your sleep and training that will give you. It's a slow process. Well, if I give you C Max or C Lang injection or nasal, it's boom.
- [48:54]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [48:55]
Noah Lathe
It's suddenly oxytocin, I always added as a layer also to just make you feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself, you, you learn better, you remember better, you're just more present.
- [49:06]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [49:07]
Noah Lathe
So it depends. Are you a CEO that are going public and you need that energy, or are you a mother of three and you just overwhelmed with all the, the responsibilities that you have? Right, right. So it's a different protocol because you don't want to create the perfect protocol and the person will not execute it.
- [49:25]
Gary Breca
Right.
- [49:26]
Noah Lathe
Tailored to what your lifestyle is.
- [49:28]
Gary Breca
I agree. So two more quick categories. I want to touch on muscle building. Yes. Because there's growth hormone peptides. Yes. And now there are full of statin. They're different than the full statin gene therapy. There are full statin peptides. Yeah. And full statin is a myostatin inhibitor which basically is what stops our muscles from growing, you know, after they, they respond to a hormetic stress. So in those cases, for folks that are interested in going down the road of adding more muscle, losing more fat, what are some of your favorite peptides in that realm?
- [50:07]
Noah Lathe
My favorite peptides with muscle building is definitely a combination of Ipamarin and CGC if you are younger than 40.
- [50:17]
Gary Breca
Hypermorelin. CGC 1295.
- [50:19]
Noah Lathe
Yes.
- [50:19]
Gary Breca
Yeah.
- [50:19]
Noah Lathe
CGC 1295 if you're younger than 40.
- [50:22]
Gary Breca
Okay.
- [50:23]
Noah Lathe
If you're older than 40. Because what does hypermarlin and CGC do? They ignite your own growth hormone. It's a growth hormone releasing peptides combined with a growth hormone releasing hormone. So it's, it's makes your own body secrete again growth hormones, but again if your bank account is empty because you're in your 50s.
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Gary Breca
Yeah.
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Noah Lathe
Not going to do anything. And I prefer to microdose human growth hormone to our patients who are 50, 60, 70 or 80s.
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Gary Breca
Right. How going to be micro dose is like 2 IUs.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
Not 10 or 20 IU's?
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Noah Lathe
It depends.
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Gary Breca
2.
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Noah Lathe
I use a microdose between 0.5 to 4 IUs. Depends how old their goal are they training? Are they not do have an injury? It depends of many things.
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Gary Breca
Okay. And then finally before we, before we wrap up, I want to just touch quickly on heavy metal detox because aside from in use for resis, which I did today, but can be an Expensive procedure. This was a couple thousand dollars.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
Someone listening to this podcast that is concerned about or knows that they have heavy metals.
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What would be your recommendation for how to walk them out of that? Do you use oral chelation? What are your.
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Noah Lathe
Yes.
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Gary Breca
Therapies that you use to get metals out of the body?
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Noah Lathe
Except in spheresis. You mean.
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Gary Breca
Yes, except besides. Besides.
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Noah Lathe
So besides Pharisees. I will put them on the protocol that first we test. And most doctors are not specialized in testing. They test hair. If you test your hair, you're testing the toxicity of your shampoo poo.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
You're not testing really what's in your body. So you want to test what's in your soft tissue and bones. Not urine, not blood. It's also not accurate. So how we do that, we give you a binder. We first test the baseline of your urine, how much toxicity there's in your urine. Toxins. Then we give you a binder, a strong one, and then we test again. We collect your.
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Gary Breca
All these metals out of the tissue.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly.
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Gary Breca
Yeah. This is called a provoke test.
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Noah Lathe
Exactly.
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Gary Breca
Right. You provoke the mental test. Yeah. And then it shows up in the urine. Okay. So now bang, you've got high, high lead, aluminum, mercury.
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Noah Lathe
We put you or on a. Depends how high it is. If it's very high, then we put you on a chemical collater, like dmsa, for example. Right. But if it's cadmium in your brain, then we use another protocol.
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Gary Breca
Okay.
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Noah Lathe
With the ALA and other binders, and we cycle it. It's.
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Two or three days on, 11 days off.
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Gary Breca
Two or three days. That's it.
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Noah Lathe
That's it.
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Gary Breca
Wow.
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Noah Lathe
Yeah. It's very powerful.
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Gary Breca
Right?
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Noah Lathe
Yeah. The dmsa, at least that we use, is very powerful. So it's two, three days on, 11 days off. In these 11 days, we replenish the minerals that you. That the DMSA or that the binder took out. Because it takes the good and the bad stuff.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
And then we keep cycling. 3 days on, 11 days off. 3 days on, 11 days OFF. And then usually after 8 to 12 weeks, depends where your baseline was, we retest you.
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Gary Breca
Yeah.
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Noah Lathe
And we think, okay, it's going in the right direction. Let's continue.
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Gary Breca
Yes.
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Noah Lathe
Or you're good. Usually it takes six months before someone is really clean. And often they come to us and said, no. But my aluminium and my cadmium is in. Within the reference range.
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Gary Breca
Yeah.
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Noah Lathe
Well, you're not born with aluminum, so the reference range of aluminum should be zero. Right, Right.
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Gary Breca
So.
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Noah Lathe
And same applies for mercury and Cadmium, although mercury, there is some in nature. So yeah, it depends where the devil is in the detail.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
And then after that we tell them, look, go on. A chlorella. Obviously we stop because there's a misconception from where heavy metals are coming. So we stop first the. The inbounds of heavy metals and microplastic. Not drinking from plastic, not drinking from cane cans or thin or any types of metallic boxes where food is stored, how you cook it. And yeah, it's, it's a, it's a process. And unfortunately nowadays is not.
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You kind of have to become the CEO of your own biology.
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Gary Breca
Yeah.
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Noah Lathe
And what do I mean with that is like 150 years ago, if you could read and write and calculate, big chance you can become a millionaire now. Good luck if you have a cleaning job.
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Gary Breca
Right.
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Noah Lathe
Same in the 80s if you had a master's degree job guaranteed. Now you need to have a PhD and had several languages. And so there is a inflation of everything, of relationship, of money, of education, but also of health. Because 150 years ago, ignorance was a blessing. Now ignorance is the start of many chronic diseases. So you have to know, okay, how is it coming that that's what's affecting my life? Because even if you don't care about yourself, toxins are transgenerational up to four generations. Wow. So we tested mices, we induced them with, with, with toxins and then we put four generation in a controlled environment and these toxins, that very specific toxins was up through the sperm through four generation.
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Gary Breca
Wow.
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Noah Lathe
So even if you don't care about yourself, at least care about your children and grandchildren, you know.
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Gary Breca
Yeah, no, and I think most of us do care about ourselves. No, this has been amazing, man.
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Noah Lathe
Thank you.
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Gary Breca
You're. You're an absolute wealth of knowledge. I really thank you for taking great care of me today and my daughter too. Yesterday at your clinic, I wind down all of my podcasts and. And then what we're going to do is we're going to go into my VIP room and my VIPs are the community that I'm really trying to build to really make change in the world. And if you're interested in becoming a VIP, just head over to theultimatehuman.com forward/vip. You can sign up to via VIP. You can get private podcasts, you can get open Q&As with me, just like what you're hearing today. But you can ask me questions directly. You can have the 10 month course to becoming the ultimate human. You can ask the Gary AI anything you can feed it, your labs, your genetic testing, you can ask it questions about your supplements, and you'll be a part of the most thriving wellness community in the world, I promise you. So check it out if you are not a VIP right now. But before we go, I end all my podcasts by asking my guests the same question. And that is, what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?
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Noah Lathe
That's a very good question.
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I think it's. It's a balance is being balanced about between your mind and your body that you wake up in the morning and until you sleep, you have a constant amount of energy. And when life throw problems at you, you take them with gratitude. That for me, that is. That is because the only people that has no problems are dead people. So a guarantee in life is that you're going to have problems. And it's not having problems is the meaning they are to you and how you deal with them. And to be able to deal with them in a beautiful way, you need to be physically and mentally strong.
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Gary Breca
Great answer. And like I said, there's no right or wrong answer. So that was. But that was a great answer. Noah, thank you so much for coming on the Ultimate Human podcast. I hope we'll have you back again. I'm spending more time over on this side of the world, so I'm sure our paths will continue to cross. And until next time, guys, that's just science.