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April 12, 1927. Downtown Shanghai.
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Dawn.
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China's biggest city boils with tension. Chiang Kai Shek and his Nationalist army have for a year swept aside the region's ramshackle warlords. Their goal? A united China run by Chiang and backed improbably by the Soviet Union. But Shanghai still stands in his path. On paper, Chiang rules everything except the city's international settlement. But Communists and trade unionists have run riot, striking and marching and sacking foreign businesses. Allow these shenanigans to continue for long, Chan reckons, and the Chinese Communist Party, the ccp, will soon pose a far greater threat than any two bit warlord. So Chiang reaches out to Shanghai's other great power, its underworld. More specifically, the Green Gang, a former secret society led by the unprecedentedly powerful
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mob boss Du Yue Sheng.
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Big ears Du, a man as ungainly looking as he is ruthless, willing to do anything to maintain his own grip
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on the city's booming trade in vice.
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The Communists have angered do too, tearing away his access to Shanghai's poor and desperate labour force. Men who once made perfect pimps, drug dealers and doormen are now rallying against imperialism.
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This, Du decides, will not do.
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The two men hatch a plan. Du will mobilize a gang army of his own, slipping amongst the leftists, and cause havoc. When it's over and you're leading China, he tells Chiang, you make sure you remember old Big Ears. Chiang agrees. On April 11, Du's men slaughter one of Shanghai's top trade unionists. Then, early the next morning, 2,000 more of them change into denim overalls and filter into crowds thronging Shanghai's city centre. The stage is set for mayhem. At dawn, a bugle and a gunboat siren play simultaneously the sign. The Green Gangoons whip out knives and other weapons and attack anybody they see. Protesters are rounded up and shot. Men beheaded in the street. More thrown into the flatbeds of trucks and led off to prisoner camps. A rumor even spreads that railroad workers
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are being burned alive in their train.
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By nightfall, the Green Gangsters have murdered as many as 5,000 leftists across Shanghai. Several of the CCP's top brass escape, but the massacre will kick off a period of bloodletting known as the White terror. And only 10,000 of China's 60,000 CCP members will survive.
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1927.
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The Chinese Civil war has truly begun, and Du has played its key role, butchering Reds. And coming out of the massacres, Shanghai is one true king. Chiang, true to his word, brings the Green Gang into his nationalist firmament, which Dou leverages into commanding businesses in banking, commerce, even education. Shanghai, Pearl of the Orient, now belongs to the mob. And Big Ear's Doo might just be the most powerful gangster on the planet. How long can he stay on top? Well, that won't depend on him for much longer.
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I'm Sean Williams, writer, based in Buenos Aires, Argentina, and I am joined by
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documentarian and co host Danny Gold in New York City.
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That's it, guys.
Dale
That's.
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That's the show.
Host 1
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Danny Gold
Yeah. Remember Covid? That's when we started.
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A lot of comments, special opinions, and there's a hell of a lot of them too. Yeah.
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yeah, that. That'll be it. Unless you want to say something funny. But people don't like that, do they?
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So we better just do the story.
Host 1
No, they don't.
Danny Gold
No, no, they hate that.
Sean Williams
All right. So today's episode is the third in a mammoth three parter on the green gang and the rise of Du Yue, Shanghai. He's possibly. I mean, I'm convinced after reading all
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these things on him, like one of
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the biggest gangsters in history. Huge historical figure in China, as you just heard. Not a nice guy. But in many ways, Du is the
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part of the story of modern China
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you barely ever hear about. And that is pretty strange given that
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he straddles so many key moments in the 20th century.
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And Shanghai, this heaving metropolis, home to about 2 million people in 1927, I
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guess 1,995,000 by April 13, given the cold open you just heard. It is in the middle of a
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massive crazy boom period. Its population is going to surpass 3 million in the next few years. Most of them live in the vast
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poor Chinese administered area.
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But there's also the International settlement in the French Concession, home to some of
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the richest foreign businesses anywhere on earth.
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Vice everywhere. Crazy place. You might, for example, remember this scene from Movie Law.
Host 1
Dale, do not post it. It's, you know, we're going to get. That's one of the. They protect their ip. We're going to get demonetized. Dale, I want you to just come in right now and narrate what's happening in the scene for the audience. They love you anyway.
Danny Gold
That would be cool.
Dale
Okay, so first, Harrison Ford, like throws some water or something in his face and then just, I guess he's a Chinese guy comes in with like a Tommy gun and he's shooting. They're like in a club. Oh, it's called Club Obi Wan. It's in China, I guess. And then there's this giant gong and the Chinese guy, it's a Party and the Chinese guy shoots at the gong and the gong falls off. It's like holder. And then Harrison Ford's like running behind the gong and then the gong. Oh, he grabs this woman, I guess Harrison Ford knows her. And then they're running behind the gong like hiding from the Tommy gun. And then the gong knocks out a window and they jump out the window and they like fall through an awning and then they fall onto the streets of Shanghai and there's like a lot of neon and like old cars and the little kid short round and. Yeah, then they're in Shanghai I guess. And that's what Danny and Sean wanted me to tell you.
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Anyway, if you are not getting it
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from Dale's beautiful description. Yes, that is 1984's Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.
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That that scene was actually filmed in
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Maau, not Shanghai for I guess obvious reasons given the weird legal status of Maau back then.
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But Shanghai really was that wild a
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place in the 1930s when the movie is set. And it was largely down to Du
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Yue Sheng as early as 1927 when the Shanghai massacre takes place. Du has already dismantled any rival gangs
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or political enemies to become the underworld authority.
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He has his own version of plata or plomo, keeping corrupt officials on board by an honor system called Guangzhi.
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Something we've explored in those money laundering Chinese episodes.
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For anybody else there is a slightly different approach. Writes the website. Damn interesting.
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Which I know you are all reading right now. Quote.
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By 1927, nothing criminal, illegal or even questionable took place in Shanghai without do say so. And any crook who dared to knock over a safe, rob a well heeled westerner or run a quiet numbers game without giving the Green gang their cut was liable to end up shot, kidnapped for ransom with their tendons sliced apart
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with a fruit knives.
Host 1
Remember websites? I know, I know you still go to some websites. I don't go to that many, but I know you like the ones with X at the beginning or hub at the end. Right, like that you still regular?
Danny Gold
Regular. Great. Yeah. I have to verify my age these days. Which is. Which is. Which is not cool when you. When you're lying on your own in a hotel room in Cuba.
Sean Williams
I mean what are you talking about anyway?
Danny Gold
No, I don't know what you're saying. I have no idea what Danny's talking about there.
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However do remember him.
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He does the mafia's horsehead thing in style as well. He sends actual coffins to the home of anybody he wants to stop doing what they're doing.
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And few on the receiving end of
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that little stunt fail to get the message.
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His great power is to unite Shanghai's
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disparate criminal powers into one giant cartel.
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Before he had done this, Shanghai crime is divided amongst gangs from different regions.
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One group, for example, are the feared kidnappers.
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Others are the armed robbers. As Shanghai merchants grow terrified of these twin specters, a cottage industry of gang affiliated bodyguards and security pop up too. They provide intel to the gangs while
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coining it from the rich industrialists.
Host 1
So he basically like Amazon's organized crime in Shanghai, just takes over everything they're doing, everything they're selling, everything they're committing, everything. And he's the one in control.
Danny Gold
He is, yeah. And as we're going to learn, his labor law practices are pretty iffy too.
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So there are darker sides to the
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city's thriving kidnapping black market. As if you can imagine that.
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And they don't just affect the rich and powerful. Some groups in Shanghai focus on trafficking boys to monasteries or businesses outside the city.
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Something called lifting rocks or. I mean, I know you know this, but I'll tell you anyway. Ban Shitu girls meanwhile are kidnapped into the sex trade. Something gangsters call pretty grimly plucking mulberry
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leaves or xia xiangjie.
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Yep, sorry about that. I don't even think I got the letters right there.
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So prevalent is this kind of bleak act that Western philanthropists establish an anti
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kidnapping society in China which manages to save almost 4,000 children across a decade.
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Du doesn't mind getting involved in his fights.
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It's just another market. His Green gang underlings manage to consolidate under his rule. But nothing propels him more than than the Shanghai massacre.
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For one, he's just become a truly
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pivotal figure in Chinese history.
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By April 13th, 1927, his denim wearing assassins have left 5,000 dead and kicked
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off the white terror.
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A years long pogrom that'll kill up to a million Chinese leftists. Almost.
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I mean yeah, history tells that story. Almost wiping out the Chinese Communist Party altogether.
Host 1
Yeah, that's a crazy story. The comeback they made. What? I mean that's a pretty. That's like being down 3 0. That's the Red Sox, Yankees and was a 2004. Anyway, you know there's like that Internet joke about how Chinese history are full of little known to us events called things like the Sad Year where just 15 million people die for like a massacre or like a famine or something like that.
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Yeah, I think reading this stuff that
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would be called the happy year. I think just after this happens there's like a massive flood that basically wipes billion people off the face of the earth.
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But so Yeah, I guess 5,000 being
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stabbed and beheaded in a major city center is small change perhaps.
Sean Williams
Am I allowed to say that?
Danny Gold
Yeah, that's fine, isn't it? It's been long enough.
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Anyway, Chiang Kai Shek, remember him? He then welcomes Du into the hierarchy
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of his Nationalist Kuomintang or the kmt, China's ruling party.
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Du and fellow Green Gang leaders are handed honorary major general roles in Chiang's army. Du then pays a massive bung to
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the leaders of Shanghai's international Settlement, which
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gives him the right to manufacture and
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sell drugs within its borders.
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This convinces the French authorities in their
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own concession to buckle under Doo's increasing criminal demands.
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They extend Due's opium selling licenses, further guaranteeing his drug laden riverboats the protection
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of the French navy.
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Writes Brian Martin, whose excellent book the Shanghai Green Gang, I read, enjoyed, read again and read it a third time
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because it's so cool. Yeah, I used it a lot for this trilogy.
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Quote, the largest chunk of Money do
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sent up river to Chang.
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The first of many illicit paydays and
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the start of a beautiful friendship. Of course, if you've listened to our other shows about the kmt, whether they were in Taiwan or Myanmar, they quite liked getting involved in drug money.
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Anyway, Doux then opens five massive gambling houses in the French Concession protected by an army of 500 gangsters. The biggest of these is a three
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story foreign style house known as number 181 for its address, of course.
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Continues Martin Quote it catered to all types of Western and Chinese forms of gambling for whose use do paid 4,000
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silver tiles each month. Yeah, in case you like me, don't have a clue what a silver tile is.
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Turns out it's this weird conch shaped
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ingot used as currency in Imperial Japan.
Host 1
Yeah, I still don't know after you describe it, what it, what it, what that means?
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Imagine.
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Imagine little tiny silver ears that you've got and then. And then you pay for prostitutes with it.
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Imagine that.
Host 1
Yeah, now you're painting a very vivid picture. Now I got it.
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There we go.
Host 1
Just should have led with that.
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There's websites again. Anyway, on with the quote quickly as possible.
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Besides such prestigious locations do also controlled
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innumerable gambling dives catered to working class gamblers.
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In the words of Britain's Consul General in Shanghai.
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Very British words, I should add. Apologies for that.
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The Green Game bosses are quote, extremely
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useful intermediaries in dealing by Chinese methods
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with any Chinese troubles which arise. Whether political, industrial or even peace and good order in the French Concession. They can continue their opium dealings just so long as the concession benefits very materially and is spared much of the
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trouble to which foreign authorities in China so often heirs. I am partner with a diplomat who writes diplomatic cables, so I'll probably shut up at this point, but yeah, the writing needs an editor.
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Anyway. With Du suddenly the toast of the KMT and protected by every fat cat
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in Shanghai and there are quite a few of those there, he doesn't miss the chance to live the gangst the high life.
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Gone are the fruit stalls and peasant clothes of his youth. Dude pours his cash into building a grand mansion on one of the city's main Spalding avenues and a wardrobe of incredibly lavish clothes, including a robe adorned.
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Yeah, this is pretty nuts.
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With three preserved monkey heads.
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Quote for luck. Something not even Rick Ross has come close to outbinging since.
Host 1
Although Cameron does have that lie about his zoo being a closet. You ever. Dude. I mean, his closet being. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's a Great line. But what I don't. I'm having trouble visualizing. Is it like three, like their head? First of all, two makes sense, but three, they're like literally just heads attached to like the collar. Yeah. Like I have a fur collar that's dope as hell, but I feel like a head would smell A and B just not look good.
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Well, I was imagining them perched on
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the back of like a kind of Star Trek style like, collar.
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But maybe he has some like at
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the end of his sleeves, like little mittens and he can.
Host 1
Foxes, like when they have like the fox. The fox head thing. Yeah, yeah, I like fur, but I think the fox head, it's too far, man. Don't.
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Yeah, I know.
Host 1
Anytime you get the heads involved. Not good.
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You heard it here first, folks.
Host 1
Yeah, let's leave the heads out of this, folks.
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Minks, foxes.
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Yeah, all of that stuff. Yeah, don't do it.
Host 1
Leave the heads out of it. Yeah.
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Anyway. Yes. You know what they say about guys with big ears, Danny?
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You don't, do you? No. You never heard that before?
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Anyway, do likes the honeysuckle. By that I don't mean he's Winnie the Pooh. He's a serial polygamist with four wives
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and several more concubines in his mansion, bearing him a total of eight sons and three daughters.
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This happy household is protected by heavily armed Chinese bodyguards and an extra squad
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because why not of Russian bodyguards.
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When Du heads to a nightclub or a casino, he usually gathers 3 or
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4 quote sing song girls decked in mink. There it is again.
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And diamonds.
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I hope they didn't cross your head rule there.
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He's still chuffing on opium like it's
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tobacco, of course, and that is going to catch up to him in due course.
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But right now, at the end of the 1920s, du is on top, if
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not of Shanghai, then the entire world.
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He's able to launder and reinvest his vast narco gambling and prostitution money, largely because he spends the majority of his
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post Shanghai massacre time buying up legitimate businesses.
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In 1928, for example, he controls the French Tramways Union, which despite its name,
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also works on Shanghai's water and electrical grid.
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He buys food and fish concerns and he takes controlling stakes in the regional
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logistics and shipping industries.
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Du also pumps money into local initiatives and charities that boost his image as a.
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Wait for it, Robin.
Sean Williams
I don't know, maybe not quite, but he was looking to cement his image. Same thing as something called.
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Oh yeah, Danny already knows what the hell jar is.
Dale
Is.
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Yeah.
Sean Williams
It's the honorable outlaw hero.
Danny Gold
Yeah, that is. That is Robin Hood. It is exactly the same thing. Sound the Claxendale.
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Anyway, Du builds an orphanage, a retirement home, and two schools, which is something he's particularly interested in, given that his
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own pecuniary upbringing had robbed him of his own education.
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Quote, this is the place where I
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studied as a child. He says, after one opening, the monthly
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educational fee was 50 cents.
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My family being poor, however, on the
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fifth month, they were unable to raise
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the necessary money, and so my studies came to an end.
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In fact, Du remains illiterate all the
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way up to the mid-1930s, when he hires a bunch of scholars to teach him the basics.
Host 1
Amazing. Just running hundreds of businesses, doesn't need an mba, doesn't even know how to read. And just making it happen, man.
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Yeah, maybe all those YouTube adverts, they're right. Maybe I should click on them.
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Anyway, Du also gives two hundreds of the poorest homes in Shanghai a monthly
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stipend to help them survive.
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He is the president of two hospitals for which the government appoints him deputy chairman of the Chinese Red Cross, which
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is pretty hilarious, given he's just butchered thousands of people in broad daylight.
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And he provides relief during humanitarian disasters
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such as the 1931 Yangtze flood. To go back to your earlier point,
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Danny, perhaps the deadliest natural disaster in
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human history, killing 3.7 million people.
Host 1
So I am not well versed in Chinese history, I can admit that. Never heard of that. I don't know. Is that, like, it could be one of those things we learned in school and I just wasn't paying attention that day, or I forgot it. Like, I forgot everything else, but I. Did you know about that before you read this? Read this right now. Did, like, were you.
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No.
Host 1
Is there anything.
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No.
Host 1
Yeah, yeah.
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And then when I looked it up, it was like, only narrowly less people
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than the, like, 1932.
Host 1
Chinese history is crazy, dude.
Danny Gold
Yeah, it is absolutely mad.
Sean Williams
Some people go from calling do big
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ears to big philanthropists, which they do not do that.
Host 1
No one does that.
Danny Gold
No, no one does that.
Sean Williams
According to a local phrase, he, quote, scatters gold as if it were dirt,
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which, you know, there's Chinese phrases. I can imagine that. But yeah, you're right. No one's calling him big philanthropist.
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That is because has got.
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Well, I mean, you guessed it by now. A lot of gold to be scattering
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about by the end of the 1920s. Do is worth around a billion US
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dollars in today's money.
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And the main catalyst for this isn't any of the stuff I just mentioned, but that in 1929, do opens his own bank called Zhonghui. Not only is this the most perfect money laundering system in the world, but it will also allow do literally to
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manipulate Chinese markets in his favor. This of course, just makes him more outrageously rich.
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But it also leads to one particular moment that's pretty funny. When Chiang Kai Shek nationalizes most of Chinese commercial banking sector and Du gets
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wind of the yuan's future foreign exchange rate, which isn't going to be good.
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But do misreads the tip and buys
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a huge amount of yuan.
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And when do realize he's messed up, he goes to the guy who gave
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him the tip, who's another top banking official, and tells him to reverse the deal. When the banker says no, do reverse
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the type and sends a coffin alongside
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six funeral attendants to the banker's home.
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The banker then calls a special meeting of the Board of Directors of the Central bank of China.
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Du, by the way, for context, has
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just been appointed one himself, where everybody agrees the state should take responsibility for
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Du's stash of worthless Chinese money.
Sean Williams
So you may have realized by this point, if you're best buddies with the President of China, you run the biggest gang in China, possibly in the world. You run the world's biggest opium trafficking operation. You own Shanghai shipping, water, electrical grid and other businesses. You're worth over a billion dollars and
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you're literally on the board of the Central Bank. And I'll add one in for luck. You've got three monkeys on your coat somewhere. You're quite a big deal.
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A Polish journalist who interviews do calls him a quote, combination of Al Capone
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and John D. Rockefeller.
Host 1
Yeah, I'm surprised no one's borrowed that. That's pretty good.
Danny Gold
That is good. It is very good. As he stared into one of those dead monkeys eyes doing his weirdest interview.
Sean Williams
In a city whose richest inhabitants are usually foreign, Shanghai's Chinese adore their compatriot
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dues rise to such giddy stratospheres.
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In fact, so admired is he by this point that even his rough peasant
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Pudong dialect becomes fashionable in central Shanghai.
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Writes a fellow Green gang member. Quote, loafers and their friends could all say a few sentences of Pudong dialect
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in order to show off, implying that
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they had connections to Do's group and
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that they were not alone in the world. I've showed off a lot of my own Pudong dialect over the years, but it's never got me this this far.
Sean Williams
According to a couple of sources I read there are as many as a
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hundred thousand gangsters in Shanghai by the turn of the 1930s.
Sean Williams
That is higher than the ratio of
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podcasters in New York.
Host 1
Just barely.
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Just barely. Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Sean Williams
But of course, this being China change,
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and violent change at that, is never not just around the corner.
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And this time it's not the British, the Americans or the French. It's Japan. A smaller but vastly more technologically advanced nation, hyper nationalist, with its eyes firmly
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set on building an empire across east Asia.
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In mid-1931, Du, his old buddy Huang Jinrong and their Green Gang comrades helped launch an anti Japanese boycott among Shanghai's business leaders.
Host 1
Can you just briefly, real quick, explain why they launched that boycott? Like what Japan was doing, what was going on with Manchuria, stuff like that?
Sean Williams
Yeah, I mean, Manchuria is the sort
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of northeastern part of China and Japan
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is sort of desperately trying to set
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up its own puppet state there so they could spread its empire and mostly get a bunch of metals and minerals out of the ground, which Manchuria is very wealthy in, so they can kind of fuel a future war effort.
Sean Williams
On September 18th that year, so that's 1931, Japan detonates some dynamite beside a railroad track near the Manchurian city of
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Mukden, now known as Shenyang. Probably like 50 million people or something.
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The explosion is weak, but Tokyo accuses Chinese of carrying it out and fighting breaks out between Japanese Imperial troops and
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soldiers belonging to Chiang Kai Shek's kmt.
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This event, the so called Mukden incident, is a massive false flag.
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Of course, Japanese officers have planted the
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explosives to blame China and spark an invasion of Manchuria, rich in the minerals
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it needs to fuel its imperial war machine.
Sean Williams
This, by the way, is what many historians consider to be the true beginning
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of World War II.
Sean Williams
It might even be the origin of
Danny Gold
the like the phrase false flag. I can't verify that. Please email and send loads of comments, especially to Facebook.
Sean Williams
Anyway, a few days later, Du is appointed to the board of a group
Danny Gold
called the Shanghai Municipal Resist Japan National Salvation Association.
Host 1
Man, those guys, they just love their incredibly long group names with like just nine letter acronyms for anything. Huh?
Danny Gold
It's probably just like five dashes on a piece of paper as well.
Sean Williams
Anyway, Green Gang leaders, following Du's previous philanthropic lead, provide aid to Chinese refugees
Danny Gold
fleeing Manchuria, which is getting quickly overrun by the Japanese. And if you thought that organization name was good, try three more do founds.
Sean Williams
Number one, the secret investigation group for National Salvation and Resistance against Japan, the Blood and Soul group for the extermination of traitors and the National Salvation Assassination Society.
Host 1
Okay, those are. Those are kind of tight, those last two.
Danny Gold
Yeah, the last two are fantastic, actually. Yeah, just get rid of the first one, mate.
Sean Williams
Now, some of these great organizations, some of what they do is genuine resistance
Danny Gold
against the Japanese invasion. The last one, for example, the Salvation Assassination Society.
Sean Williams
Yeah, that does actually employ gangland snipers
Danny Gold
to shoot Japanese troops landing near Shanghai.
Sean Williams
But in reality, Green Gang members have had a back channel to the Japanese consulate in Shanghai for months, discussing the
Danny Gold
possibility of creating a Japanese concession in the city ruled over by their mobsters. Cheeky guys.
Sean Williams
And to police in the French Concession, the Green Gang stronghold. These apparently patriotic groups serve merely to
Danny Gold
extort cash out of Shanghai's business community.
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Welcome to the I Can't Wait I Can't Sleep podcast with Benjamin Boster. If you're tired of sleepless nights, you'll love the I Can't Sleep podcast. I help quiet your mind by reading random articles from across the web to bore you to sleep with my soothing voice. Each episode provides enough interesting content to hold your attention and then your mind lets you drift off. Find it wherever you get your podcasts. That's I Can't Sleep with Benjamin Boster.
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By the end of February 1932, Japan has taken over Manchuria and installed its
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puppet state of Manchukuo.
Sean Williams
It's at this point that its own
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nationalist gangsters, the Yakuza, get to work on Tokyo's behalf.
Sean Williams
Right back in one of our first
Danny Gold
ever episodes, we discussed, for example, how
Sean Williams
Yakuza boss Yosho Kodama himself, having come
Danny Gold
out of a hyper right wing secret group called the Dark Ocean Society, makes a fortune selling opium to Chinese in Manchukuo.
Sean Williams
Kodama also mints a band of gangster spies for Japan and trades Chinese minerals on behalf of the emperor, writes the Yakuza historian David Kaplan, quote, kadama operated as a sort of Imperial Japanese version
Danny Gold
of Catch 22's Milo Mindabinda, buying Tunsten
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here, guns there, reselling them and peddling
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vast stores of radium, cobalt, nickel and copper.
Sean Williams
He obtained the materials in China and Manchuria, forcing the Chinese at gunpoint to sell at pitifully low prices. It was an incredibly lucrative effort, one
Danny Gold
that might easily be termed looting. And if you just type Yakuza into the search for this show, you're going to find like half a dozen historical episodes about that exact thing, which is
Sean Williams
really fascinating and one of the reasons
Danny Gold
that the Yakuza became so rich after the war.
Sean Williams
Doom, meanwhile, focuses on spreading the Green Gang's opium business outside the French Concession and Shanghai. In 1932, he secures an opium poppy farm way outside the city. And with the Embassy KMT increasingly desperate for for his cash and manpower, DO grows even more powerful than he'd been
Danny Gold
before the Japanese invasion.
Sean Williams
As he'd done previously, uniting fellow and rival Green Gang leaders. Now do goes several steps further, uniting the Green Gang with corporate fat cats and even rival triad groups under something
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he calls the Endurance Club, another good name.
Sean Williams
This move curries do even more favor
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with his buddy Chiang Kai Shek, who
Sean Williams
is trying to head off the Japanese and Chinese Communists.
Danny Gold
Remember, he is still slaughtering Reds as part of that White Terror by integrating corporations into the state, something Mussolini, one of Chang's heroes, is doing at that moment in Italy, writes Brian Martin, quote,
Sean Williams
By the end of the year, therefore, DO has succeeded in reaching an agreement with the Kuomintang authorities that not only allowed the transfer of his narcotics operation from the French Concession to Chinese territory, but that also gave them a semi official status. He was the only Green Gang boss to respond successfully to the new political realities in Shanghai.
Danny Gold
And he was able, as a result,
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to achieve a position of dominance over the various Green Gang groups, as well as to play an important role in
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the politics of the city.
Sean Williams
I mean, I don't think another gangster
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has run a city as sort of wholesale as this guy has.
Sean Williams
At this point, the only powerful enemy
Danny Gold
Du has are the French.
Sean Williams
They have only now realised the Green
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Gang's power in their Shanghai enclave.
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Despite him being a famous gangster who owns banks, cozies up to the Chinese
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president and wears robes with monkey heads on them.
Sean Williams
Maybe they're on a wine break or something.
Danny Gold
Either way, in 1932 they move to shut down opium and gambling dens across the French Concession.
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Du responds by organizing a strike at the French Tramways union he controls. Remember, those are the ones who also
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control the water and the concession's electrical grid. But he follows it up with something even more sinister.
Sean Williams
One night, three French officials are holding
Danny Gold
a banquet, one of whose dishes contains mushrooms.
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Within a few days, all three men are dead.
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Poisoned, it's assumed, by Doux mobsters.
Sean Williams
Shortly afterwards, a French journalist had been boasting about imminently publishing a scandalous story.
Danny Gold
Most likely the mushroom poisoning hops aboard
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a boat bound for Europe. But it catches fire shortly after setting
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sail and sinks in the Indian Ocean.
Sean Williams
Bad publicity dealt with. Dew carries on expanding the Green Gang. And despite the French police setting up
Danny Gold
an anti gambling squad in 1934, they are too late. And big ears do is too big to fail.
Host 1
Wait, so. So hold on. He kills them by slipping them poisonous mushrooms. Which like, seems complicated. Like same thing with burning an ocean line. Why not just kill the guys in a dark alley and dump the bodies? There's no CCTV during this time.
Sean Williams
I mean, have you seen or met French people?
Danny Gold
I mean, just sort of putting poison in butter is probably enough to kill half the country. And another day I'll tell you all about my thoughts on French cuisine.
Sean Williams
Anyway, in the course of the 1930s,
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writes Brian Martin, old friend Do Yue
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Sheng had successfully remade himself.
Danny Gold
Look, I'm just saying, you can't just
Sean Williams
say that you're the best people at
Danny Gold
cooking in the world if you just drown everything in butter. That's not.
Sean Williams
That's not cooking.
Danny Gold
That's just butter. That's just. Shut up, man.
Sean Williams
Oh, God. No, no, no.
Host 1
You don't like a steak. Fruits. That's a top tier. That's a top five meal.
Sean Williams
Yeah, it's great. But did the French invent that or did the.
Host 1
I thought it was a French thing though.
Sean Williams
It's just French for fried steak a
Host 1
lot and you kind of. No steak.
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Sean Williams
What does the poivre.
Danny Gold
What does the poivre mean?
Sean Williams
Is that the same pepper?
Host 1
Pepper sauce.
Danny Gold
Oh my God. Well done. To the French. Well done. Pepper and cream together.
Sean Williams
Anyway, yeah.
Danny Gold
Moving back to Chinese organized crime, probably on sort of a more sound ground there.
Sean Williams
Do you a Sheng, I'm quoting Brian Martin here had successfully remade himself. Although he remained the head of the most powerful organized criminal syndicate in Shanghai. This was no longer the only or
Danny Gold
increasingly the most important element that defined his power in the city.
Sean Williams
It was the creation of his own
Danny Gold
political networks and his involvement with the politics of the city and indeed the Chinese nation that enhanced and consolidated his influence in Shanghai. He had become, in other words, a leading political figure in his own right and a powerful ally of the Kuomintang state. But Shanghai's party is coming to an end.
Sean Williams
In August 1937, Japanese and Chinese Nationalist troops showdown in Shanghai, fighting a three month battle that ends with the Japanese
Danny Gold
capture of the city.
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Adds for I might quote. As Japanese forces poured into the city in early November, do knew that it was only a matter of time before
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stiff necked officers would come calling to either persuade him to join them or or to snatch away his properties.
Sean Williams
Do quietly took inventory, calculating which opium dens, gambling venues and brothels were likely
Danny Gold
to be seized by the occupiers, assigning trusted lieutenants to the remainder to keep his cash flowing.
Sean Williams
Then, with one of his wives in
Danny Gold
tow, he left town. God, that must have been an awkward afternoon. Choosing which wife to go with.
Sean Williams
Do swaps Shanghai for the British colony of Hong Kong. There he supports the Chinese war effort, providing relief for refugees through the Chinese Red Cross and quarterbacking spy and resistance
Danny Gold
networks through the gring gang.
Sean Williams
By 1943, with war raging across the world, Germany occupies France and installs its
Danny Gold
puppet regime centred on the town of Vichy.
Sean Williams
These quislings then hand over the French Concession to the Japanese puppet state, ending
Danny Gold
almost a century of French rule in Shanghai. Japan loses the war, in case you didn't know already.
Sean Williams
But China quickly descends into civil war
Danny Gold
between the KMT and the Chinese Communist Party.
Sean Williams
Du decamps again, this time to the Chinese mainland city of Chongqing, which I think is now the biggest city in the world, where in 1948 he meets
Danny Gold
personally with Chiang, whose Nationalists are getting battered by Mao Zedong's ccp.
Sean Williams
Whatever happens during that meeting between Du and Chiang, Du's downfall begins later that year when his son Wei Ping, the stockbroker on the Shanghai Stock Exchange, is arrested on Shang's orders, accused of stock manipulation and paraded about in handcuffs over 20 years earlier. A moment exactly like this has sealed
Danny Gold
Huang Jingrong's position at the top of
Sean Williams
the Green Gang, handing the Baton to Du Yue Sheng. Now Du is going through the exact same thing, bearing the shame of seeing his son branded a criminal in newspapers
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up and down China.
Host 1
Did he do something to piss off Jankai Shack? Like why?
Danny Gold
What?
Host 1
What he just wanted power was a power struggle. Like what are we talking about here?
Sean Williams
Well, I mean, I guess like Chang could have just found out that he was chatting to the China, the Japanese
Danny Gold
behind his back for like 10 years. Maybe that sort of swayed it.
Sean Williams
That would have definitely done it.
Danny Gold
Or maybe they just like, you know,
Sean Williams
just fell out, just like old friends
Danny Gold
do, just like we never have. But you know, people do over the years.
Host 1
We do every day pretty much. But we always come back.
Danny Gold
We always somehow, somehow come back.
Host 1
Make it work.
Sean Williams
The CCP declared victory over the KMT the following year.
Danny Gold
So that is in 1949, establishing what we all now know and love as the People's Republic of China.
Sean Williams
Writes a New York Times reporter, quote, the few remaining foreigners left the country, closed off from the outside world with which it had become so comfortable, Shanghai fell into a deep sleep. Fashion, music and romance gave way to
Danny Gold
uniformity and the stark reality of communism. That's the kind of lion that you just do not get away with these days. Chiang Kai Shek retreats to Taiwan in December 1949.
Sean Williams
Du declines an offer to join him there, heading instead back to Hong Kong, where he lives in relative obscurity with
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his fifth wife, a Beijing Opera star.
Sean Williams
On August 16, 1951, at age 62,
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dude dies, reportedly of chronic asthma, a result of his decades of opium abuse.
Host 1
Do we know what he was doing? Like where he was?
Danny Gold
Do we know what Du was doing at the do? No, not really.
Sean Williams
Again, like, his last few years are pretty murky.
Danny Gold
I think he's like living in pretty awful health. By all accounts. He's been smoking opium since he was like 4 years old or something. So I think that is quite bad for your health two years after he dies. So in 1953, those remains are brought to Taiwan and interred in a private cemetery just outside Taipei, the capital of Chiang Kai Shek's New Republic of China.
Sean Williams
An inscription above his tomb speaks to
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the man's honour and loyalty.
Sean Williams
But Mao's CCP clearly don't agree. Still angered by his allyship with Chiang and the death he'd wrought in the Shanghai massacre, they make it a criminal
Danny Gold
offence to publish books or newspaper articles about dou at all.
Sean Williams
When the country opens up economically in the late 1970s, however, this edict is relaxed. And that is when a mountain of
Danny Gold
literature about the so called Emperor of Shanghai rebuilds the legend of Du Yue Sheng.
Sean Williams
His Green Gang, meanwhile, sputters gamely on. But leaderless, rudderless in array amid the
Danny Gold
Communist takeover of China, they're swallowed up
Sean Williams
by a variety of smaller local gangs in Shanghai. Their command of the opium trade, however, means that many Green Gang members are coveted by organized criminals as drug manufacturing experts.
Dale
Drugs.
Sean Williams
And there are rumors that Green Gang narco labs may have been used by
Danny Gold
Chinese mobsters all the way up to the 1990s 90s is crazy, dude. It is crazy.
Sean Williams
And I'm wondering if there's a link between these guys and the Taiwanese like
Danny Gold
chemists that are commonly used by all of the sort of meth cartels in the Burmese jungles. Because that that was what I was told when I was there. That they are all Taiwanese.
Sean Williams
Which would make sense with the kmt, I don't know. And that more or less is where our mammoth tale of Du Yue Sheng and the Green Gang comes to an end. Despite wishing him harm for the best part of the last few months, I'll
Danny Gold
give the final words to Brian Martin
Sean Williams
because despite writing 10 sentences where one
Danny Gold
will do, his book really does go deep on all of this and it's
Sean Williams
incredible bit of historical digging. This is him comparing DO and the
Danny Gold
Green Gang to other major organized criminal groups of the time. Quote the Mafia, far from being a
Sean Williams
single, centralized, organized and unified system, was in fact a loose network of small
Danny Gold
groups of no more than a dozen or so individuals known as koska artichoke leaves, organized around one leading mafioso.
Sean Williams
In this, it was reminiscent of the Green Gang, which itself was not a centralized but rather a loosely structured network of groups which organized around powerful individuals. In the case of the Green Gang,
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however, this structure was reinforced by a
Sean Williams
formal generational hierarchy and a system of branch or bang organizations which provided it with a relatively greater degree of organizational
Danny Gold
coherence than that enjoyed by the Mafia of southern Italy. And Martin goes on Quote the Origins
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of the American the origins of the American criminal gangs or syndicates are to be found in the ethnic youth gangs
Danny Gold
that proliferate among the immigrant communities in cities such as New York.
Sean Williams
Although these syndicates were later commonly described as the Mafia, they were not exclusively Italian, but included a mix of ethnic
Danny Gold
groups including Jews, Irish and Poles as well as Italians.
Sean Williams
The gangs themselves were loose networks of
Danny Gold
alliances rather than a highly structured organization.
Sean Williams
This eclecticism of the American gang or syndicate was also shared by the Green
Danny Gold
Gang system, as the careers of Du
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Yue Sheng and other Green Gang bosses indicate. The Green Gang organization was able to
Danny Gold
draw on a vast pool of young street hoodlums for its recruits.
Sean Williams
It also successfully absorbed into its system
Danny Gold
other well established petty gangster groups.
Sean Williams
I mean, I actually think that the closest equivalent to the Green Gang is
Danny Gold
Japan's Yakuza, which came out of ultra
Sean Williams
nationalist secret societies to become a worldwide mafia alongside the Japanese state rather than against it.
Danny Gold
If you're interested again, head back into our archives. We've done a lot of episodes on them over the years, including a recent two parter on my trip to Japan
Sean Williams
in what, October last year? But yeah, slightly short episode today, but one I hope you enjoy. Don't Instagram your crimes and we are
Danny Gold
going to see you next week.
Host 1
Triple parter on Chinese History. Well done bud. Hopefully you guys all made it here.
Danny Gold
Yeah, I'm gonna forget every word of it in a week.
Host 1
Give it two weeks maybe.
Danny Gold
All right guys, cool.
Host 1
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Episode: The Rise and Incredible Fall of China’s Mob King
Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: Danny Gold & Sean Williams
This episode—the conclusion of a three-part deep dive—charts the meteoric rise and dramatic downfall of Du Yuesheng, aka "Big Ears Du," the most powerful gangster in Shanghai (and quite possibly the world) during the early 20th century. Through gripping narration and discussion, hosts Danny Gold and Sean Williams unravel how Du’s pivotal alliance with Chiang Kai-Shek’s Nationalist government elevated him from street hustler to transnational mob king, placed him at the core of some of modern China's bloodiest and most consequential events (including the 1927 Shanghai Massacre and the White Terror), and ultimately paved the way for his tragic demise.
On Du’s criminal reach:
“By 1927, nothing criminal, illegal or even questionable took place in Shanghai without Du’s say so…” – Sean, quoting Damn Interesting ([10:15])
On his penchant for intimidation:
“He does the mafia’s horse head thing in style…He sends actual coffins to the homes of anybody he wants to stop doing what they’re doing.” – Danny ([11:04])
On Du’s philanthropic paradox:
“He is the president of two hospitals…the government appoints him deputy chairman of the Chinese Red Cross, which is pretty hilarious…” – Sean ([22:45])
On his economic acumen and downfall:
“Not only is this the most perfect money laundering system in the world, but it will also allow Du literally to manipulate Chinese markets in his favor.” – Sean ([24:15])
On cultural impact:
“So admired is he by this point that even his rough peasant Pudong dialect becomes fashionable in central Shanghai.” – Sean ([26:01])
On comparative organized crime:
“The closest equivalent to the Green Gang is Japan’s Yakuza, which came out of ultra nationalist secret societies to become a worldwide mafia alongside the Japanese state rather than against it.” – Sean ([46:07])
The episode is by turns darkly humorous, analytical, and starkly candid. The hosts blend vivid storytelling, historical research, and irreverent asides, painting a nuanced portrait of Du Yuesheng—a man who embodied “the barely visible mafias that affect all our lives, whether we know it or not.” Through the tale of “Big Ears Du,” listeners see how organized crime, state power, and global forces intertwine—forever shaping the fate of cities, countries, and millions of lives.
For further reading:
“Don’t Instagram your crimes and we are going to see you next week.” – Danny Gold ([46:33])