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Victor Davis Hanson
Hello and welcome to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor is the Martin and Ellie Anderson senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marcia Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale. You can find him at his website, victorhanson.com the name of the website is the Blade of Perseus. This is our Friday news roundup. So we're going to look at the news of the day and we'll look at Vance making trade deals with India first. And Earth day is today. So stay with us and we'll get back with those stories. Shopify helps you sell at every stage of your business. Like that.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Jack
His wife is Indian. So that was a false force multiplier and it's good to see people that are not involved with the special envoy. Well, J.D. vance's wife is Indian and it's, it's very important that he steps up because Steven Wyckoff, the special envoy, he's got too big of a portfolio. He's got the Ukraine war, he's got outreach to Russia, he's got the Iran nuclear deal, he's got the post October 7th wars, and he's got these trade negotiations individuals. So we need to re establish the primacy of Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State. He's been weighing in on reforms at the State Department and also illegal immigration. But his portfolio should be the most important of these. Either the Middle east war or as I said to Jack not too long ago, or the Ukraine war. And here's what's happening. The European Left and the EU and aggregate runs about a $200 billion trade surplus with us, by the way. That's one of the ways they rationalize their similar 300 billion trade deficit with China. Their attitude is, well, China's running a trillion dollar surplus, the United States is running a trillion dollar deficit. We're getting taken by the Chinese, but we'll just kind of take the Americans. And So we lose 300 to China, but we make 200 with the United States. So they're not going to cut a deal. And the pressure is mounting. They are. Of all the countries and blocs in the world, they are the closest with the American left. They're similar, almost joined at the hip. So you have all of this anger among the American left and the libertarian right. I've mentioned the Wall Street Journal, every headline is Trump apocalyptic. Apocalypto. I mean, it's. They do not like Trump. They hate him, can't stand him. So what's happening? The Europeans are working with the left in a way, and they're not. They don't want a trade deal. And you get the EU commissioner, you get all the. Except for Maloney maybe, and some Eastern Europeans. Their attitude is we'll just wait him out because the American left is putting so much pressure, he's going to cave. And the longer this goes on, I mean, if you lose 10%, 12% of the stock market, people start to get paranoid. So there is a time element here. Can Trump's last and not crumble and get the trade deficit down? More foreign invest, get a better deal. Nobody's asking for complete parity or no, that would be nice, no tariffs. But he's trying to improve the situation and the left does not want that to happen because they think he'll get a big political benefit from that as the midterms come and the Europeans don't want that to happen because they get, they're taking us to the cleaners as a way of making up for being taken by China. In a perfect world, as we said once, they should say join with the United States and said, you have a 300 billion, we have a $300 billion deficit with China. Let's join forces and if we each don't trade as much with China, we can trade more with each other. But they're not doing that because they can't stand. They hate Trump as much as the left does. So this is very. The attention then turns to Asia and there's about five to six players, both iconically and really in terms of GDP that are big in trade, and that's India. We'll put China in a special category. Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, lesser the Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia and then Australia. And if he can get just one big deal, and he's already said the person who gets the first big deal gets the first best deal. In other words, the first cohort that comes in gets a more lax or a more compromised trade deal. So this is very important. If JD Vance is correct and India would fall, if I could use that term, fall the first domino, then Japan, Japanese are saying, the Americans keep raising, you know, changing the goal polls they keep. And then the Americans say, don't believe them. They just don't want anybody in that closed command economy. That will be the most difficult. South Korea I think, will be more pliable because there's a national security dimension. They do not want to anger the United States when they've got a lunatic with nuclear weapons. And the only thing that's stopping him is the nuclear shield of the United States. So all they need is India or South Korea as a big economy with big trade to be more fair rather than just free trade and have parity. And then I think there'll be a rush. But the question is, can he do this before the stock market goes berserk and the left and the Europeans basically caricature him as destroying the American economy, even though it's. The inflation rate has been good, the jobs reports have been good, the oil prices have been good, everything's been good. But they're talking themselves into a recession.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, since we're on India and this is a news roundup, I just want everybody to know also this week in the news is that that in the India controlled Kashmir region, there was a Islamist, Islamist attack on Hindus that killed 20. So India does share a significant problem with the west, which is Islamicism as well.
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Jack
They have a troubled border with China, so does Russia. And that's one reason that Donald Trump wants to get a settlement in the Ukraine and doesn't want to be friendly as accused with Putin. But he just wants to go back to the Henry Kissinger, no better friend, no better enemy with China versus US versus Russia. And if he can, and he's trying to say to the Russians, you're underpopulated, you got this big border with China, you have a big border like India. So we're natural allies.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, Victor, let's turn to Earth Day then. And I brought a few things. Sorry if I have to read a little bit here, but it is Earth Day and Earth Day Earth Day was started in 1970, and today we seems to have brought out all sorts of demonstrators who have done a lot of damage on the streets in New York. And they've also painted the bull on Wall street and written on it, greed equals death. But I wanted to read to you some of since Earth Day was created in 1970, that would make it, what, 55 years ago. And here were some of the predictions that were coming out about problems with the climate and the environment. Kenneth Watt, an ecologist, said, we have about five more years at the outside to do something. And Again, these are 1970s predictions. George Wald, a Harvard biologist, said civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immed action is taken against problems facing mankind. BARRY commoner, Washington UNIVERSITY Biologist we are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation and of the world as a suitable place for human habitation. And lastly, the New York Times editorial said, on the first Earth Day, man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence, but to save the race from intolerable deterioration, imposs, extinction. So those were some predictions made 55 years ago. And I was wondering your thoughts on that.
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Jack
Reminds me of the bet with the British economist and businessman who bet Paul Ehrlich about the price of commodities, see what would happen. And after a number of years, and he was right and Ehrlich was wrong, when you raise this argument to the left, they say, well, we had to be extremists and alarmists. Now we're recycling plastic. We have electric battery cars. It was only due to us and that extremism and that doesn't fly. I can remember it very well. I was a junior in High School, 1970, and our student council heard about Earth Day. And it was as I remember, we got kind of a form fact. They didn't have facts, but it was like a communication that all the high Schools should participate in this new ecological. And it was Senator Gaylord Nelson. And the thing I remember about the co founder was Ira Einhorn. And he would brag that his name was Unicorn in German. But the point is he was a murderer and he killed his wife. And I think he. So I think he's still alive and he's still in prison. But my point is this, that there was all this alarm. So we at Little Salma Rural High School decided you didn't know what to do. And somebody suggested, well, go out to the evil body and fender and mechanic shop. So we went out there and there was the teacher there and he said, I don't know what the hell, excuse me, you guys are doing, but I got an old straight eight and we worked on. I want to get rid of it and I don't want to take it to the dump. So why don't you guys dig a big hole and ceremoniously bury my engine. So we thought, wow, this is a good idea. So he was kind of using us because he did a spot. So we. It's still there in Selma. I don't think anybody knows it. 55 years later. We dug down 12ft and we did it all day. And we finished at 7 o'clock and we had it all dug. We had to put tarps over the dirt. The principal came out so nobody would fall in. We had to put sawhorses around. And then at 11 the next morning, the whole 800 students would come out. We'd have an assembly. And then we had. This guy was coming up with a. The engine was there and he was going to get a crane and drop it in from the truck, you know, a little tow truck. And we were all going to clap that we had declared the death of the internal combustion engine. So we got, we went home. I was really tired. My parents go, what have you been doing? I said, we've been digging a big hole 12ft deep into hard pan. And he said, why? I told him, he said, this is ridiculous. I said, it's all done now. The dirt's there. All we have to do is go tomorrow. And that's loose dirt. So I get a call at 4:30 in the morning from one of the organizers. He said, victor, get up. My dad got, you know, you don't answer your own phone. We have one party line. And so my dad goes, some guy wants you to get up and go to Selma High School. Don't ask me. So a local group of people from another high school supposedly had heard about it. And snuck in that night and filled up the entire hole with all the dirt. So we got there. I got there at five in the morning and we dug for like five hours. We had baskets with ropes on them and we got it all out just in time. We were all dirty and then we dropped the engine in and we all clapped and said, this is 55 years before. 50 years before the advent of Elon Musk. But it was kind of what I'm getting at. It was all ceremonial. It was all kind of the Vietnam era was still going. The war was going on. We hadn't got quite Vietnamization. There were hippie movement. We were always about five years behind the coast. So the Summer of Love 68. That came to Selma around 1971. So. And we always got the downside of the hippie movement. They got the flowers and the hippie. We got the hard drugs, I think. I don't know how.
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Victor Davis Hanson
That's weird, huh?
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Jack
I must have had five or six people in my class or the class ahead of me died of overdoses.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Jack
I have never been to a dermatologist today and in my life. And I went today and they had a little, you know, they take a little biopsy or something of a little growth. But in 2014, I had a catastrophic bike accident of carbon fork broke. My fault. I'd had a minor accident and I had a hairline invisible crack in the car. When I was going, I fell over, head over the handlebars, my teeth went through my Lips separated them. I knocked out all four teeth and my head hit. I got knocked out the pavement. Long story short, I got 150 stitches. This is on my face all around here. They sewed my lips. Anyway, so I go there today, and when I was in the emergency room, I won't mention too many details about the ER surgeon, but she was talking on a phone while she was doing this on speaker with her mother. And anyway, there were some big gaps here. Just whole chunks of skin were torn out. And my lips were. One side was here and here. And so she was sewing my lips together and everything. And she didn't really make a tight fit. And I had to lead a hundred people to Europe in eight days. And I was knocked out. And they told me not to fly with a concussion and everything. So anyway, long story short, I just had her do this. And I didn't go to have it followed up later. I did. And he said it was too late to redo it. Although he said he'd do a plastic surgeon. Plastic surgery and say it was. It was emergency fix job. I could get a good fit. But anyway, my point was that here, here, here, here, here, they didn't close. So they had this blue. Blue scar tissue here on the nose. Black, blue. And then I had embedded asphalt. She didn't get all the parts out, so both sides. So anyways, he's looking at this and he says, today there's a blue phenomenon in your skin. And then I guess there is some type of weird, I don't know, cancerous or weird sting tradition that has an off color, bluish tinge. So he was saying, this could be disturbing unless you had an accident. And I said, I not only had an accident, I had a rush job to fix the stitches. 150 stitches. And then he started looking at it and said, oh, my God. So that was my first appointment with. And there was a wonderful plastic surgeon in Visalia, California. And after I came, he redid it. When I got back from the trip, he said, if you just had not gone on your trip. And by the way, everybody, if you get a concussion and they tell you not to fly, listen to them. I was fine when we had a very compressed. A new 777 with good. I didn't get headaches. And then I went on a regional jet. And my gosh, for the next 10 days, I thought I was. I don't know what I thought I was.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Okay, Victor. So let's turn. Yeah. So let's turn. And we're still on Vance. Since we started with Vance's first segment, and Andy McCarthy wrote a searing critique of Vance. And he's I, I, I. And I don't know if our listeners out there feel this way too, but I can't quite make sense of this deporting to El Salvador. Abrego Garcia. So I'm going to tell you the four things I picked out that I could tell that Andy McCarthy was trying to say Vance did wrong or the Trump administration did wrong. So first off, he said, and the administration illegally deported Albergo Garcia, and it's responsible for his being detained in El Salvador, that they violated an earlier judge's decision to withhold removal to El Salvador. I think that's why all these news people are saying, well, they could have deported him to any other country, just not El Salvador. And then finally, Trump did not comply with scotus. And this is a display that he has unchecked power, according to Andy McCarthy.
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Jack
Well, Andy should recall what Joe Biden said when the Supreme Court said that the cancellation right before the midterm elections of student debt was unconstitutional. And remember what Joe Biden said. Well, you know, they wouldn't let me do it. I got a way around it. I went around it. And then we should remember Chuck Schumer at the head of a wild abortion mob at the doors of the Supreme Court. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, you reap. You sow the wind. You're going to reap the will. You're not going to know what's going to hit you. And then people swarmed the justice's house, including an assassin who wanted to kill Gorsuch but called his sister and she talked him out of it. And then in addition to that, in addition to that, they wanted to pack the court. So there's been a war. And I know Andy McCarthy and like him, but I think the emphasis. If you ask yourself who is waging war against the legal system, the left has. They were the ones that went after the court. They were the ones who tried to take Trump off the ballot. And all of those four indictments, those four local, state, federal prosecutors, every single one is facing real problems. Fanny Willis was taken off the case for the Nathan Wade unethical. She's under investigation. She was by the Georgia State Legislature. A committee is investigating her for unethical and maybe illegal. She was just fined over $50,000 for refusing to turn over documents. She's like, that whole thing is just a collapse because she is facing chart probably charges. And then Jack Smith got $140,000 in free legal fees. He never reported. He was the federal prosecutor. Then we go to Letitia James, who said that Donald Trump had fraudulently conspired da da da da da. To fill out a real estate form. And now we find out that's exactly what she did. She said she was married to her father, said she lived out of state as her primary residence, and then she lied about her kind of apartment units. She did everything that she accused of Donald Trump. So my point is that they have systematically abused the legal system, the left. So Andy is now mad that Donald Trump, but he doesn't quite get the political nature. And this is what a Harvard Harris poll just showed. 75% of Americans want illegal aliens who have committed crimes, are involved in criminal activity to be deported. And their way of thinking goes like this, Andy, Joe Biden broke the law. Alejandro Mayorkas was impeached for breaking the law. A federal law says you cannot cross the border of the United States when you please and illegally enter. You can visit the United States if you have a passport and you're from a country that does not, you know, require visas or we don't require that country, or you can come through at San Diego or other legal points and visit. You cannot just walk across. You can't do that with any country. Somewhere between 8 and 12 million people did that. Now, Andy says that J.D. vance was exaggerating with 20 million. I think J.D. was talking about the 20 million. He got confused. There was 20 million here already, and Andy says 10. No, 10. Now there's 20. No, there was 20 here. Yale studies showed that years ago. So now we have probably 30 million. But the point is, most people, as the polls show, said, well, wait a minute. None of you people who are suing on the left were bothered that they had destroyed the law. In other words, you allowed illegal aliens to come across and you didn't enforce the law. You were subversive. You were insurrectionary. Same thing with sanctuary cities. They break the law. And so in the American mind, the collective American mind, it goes something like this, Andy. It goes like this. Somebody comes across illegally without permission, then he resides illegally. He has abused our legal system. He has stuck his thumb nose up. We don't like you. We don't even want to get near you. When we get a court hearing and they pick it, we don't go. Then all of a sudden, when he's deported as he should never have been let in, then all of a sudden, we have to give the legal system to him. As if the Constitution is a Suicide pact. The other thing is that Andy made the point that he was with gang members at Home Depot. They had drugs and money. There were informants that said he was. There were two prior justices. He made the point. They weren't justices. They were arbitrator immigrants. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And they said that there was good reason, given that he had a nickname, a gang nickname. He had gang insignia tattoos. They thought it was good enough to deport him. And then another judge on appeal held that. That he shouldn't be deported to El Salvador because he might be in danger. Didn't say he couldn't be deported. And. And then there was a traffic incident where Tennessee patrolman pulled him over. He had seven people all registered at the same house. They wouldn't give accurate information. He had a suspended driver's license. He was breaking the law. He should have been deported. Right. Then they called him and wanted to deport him. The FBI wouldn't let him do it. They asked the FBI if they would indict them for trafficking. They didn't want to do that. And then, of course, the piece de resistance was his girlfriend. And he beat her. He tore her clothes off. He hit her. And so the American people say, andy, we let in by mistake a spousal abuser who hits women and beats them up and makes hit her in the eye, and was probably trafficking and was known among most people as a gang member. And you're asking, well, was he ever indicted and convicted and sentence? And the answer is no. He's right about that. But the answer, the American people would say is, I don't care. He's a guest to my house. If somebody comes in to my house and breaks windows, I don't have to evict him, pending a policeman to come here, investigate and say, victor, there's good evidence. He broke your windows, and we're going to arrest him. And then I wait and wait and wait while he's in my house, and then he's convicted a year later. And then I say, now you have to leave. No, I just kick him out. I didn't invite him. That's the thinking. That's the thinking behind what the. That's why 80%, almost 75% of the American people want him gone. The other issue is he's not a Maryland man. He is an El Salvador citizen. He is. Was in El Salvador and he fled because of gang affiliation. It's controversial whether he was just an innocent person who never tattooed himself. He never had gang insignia originally, but he was driven out by gangs who were threatening his family or he was in a gang and that was a gang. Anyway, he left and then he was deported. Now he's back. So he's a citizen of El Salvador. So you have this Orwellian situation where you have all these democratic grandees as if they're 19th century Yankee imperialist, traipsing down to a Latin American company country and then taking it over, kind of just going in there and saying to the president, hey, your citizen, we want him. It's almost like you've got to deport your citizen. Because we want him and we don't want him to put him in jail. We want him for political purposes because we're running a campaign against Donald Trump. So he's very valuable to us. And then they don't get. The final thing about this is why would he wear a short sleeve shirt at this margarita party with Senator Van Hollen? Why wouldn't you cover up all those tattoos? Did you see them? They were all visible. So he's there and he's having. I don't know whether it was a setup or they ordered margaritas and then they had thought better of it or the waiter didn't like them and just put them there for profit. But it was really bad. And then it just resonated. What is it with you people? Why do you ignore the people in the Rio Grande Valley and in New York City that have been victimized, whether financially or shortage of dearth of social services by illegal aliens? Why do you always get excited about a criminal? He is a criminal. He's been engaged and you make him the call celeb and then he's a referendum on law firm, not Fannie Willis. Not trying to get Trump off the ballot. Not what Chuck Schumer said about the court. Donald Trump is the threat because he deported somebody, probably mistakenly. They didn't know. They just looked at him and they saw the gang insignia and they looked at his prior record and they didn't see that there had been a hold on him not to go to El Salvador. What they, I think they should do is say, okay, bring him back for a day or two and redeport and then send him back. But. But El Salvador has a say in it. It's their citizen. We don't have people from Germany telling us we don't go to Germany and say we had a German guy living in the United States. You got to make him come back here because he wanted to. And Germany says no, we think he's a gang member and we want to Put him in jail. We say, well we didn't convict him. And Germany says, I don't care, he's a German citizen and he's on German soil and we're going to investigate him. Well no, we're the United States. We found out that he had criminal behaviors but we didn't indict him. So you give him back to us. And they say Germany says, well wait a minute, he's not even got a green card. He didn't even apply for citizenship. He's a German citizen and you're coming on our soil and telling us what I have to do to a German that I don't like one of my own people because I think he's a gang member. That's what it's colonialism. I don't know how the left gets itself into these situations where they come across so illiberal that this is a losing issue from them. And there's already been a commercial cut by the RNC or New York Post where come to Salvador and see all these pictures of democratic people. Come to beautiful ganglands, wonderful prisons. You'll love it in El Salvador. I don't know what I understand Andy's the law, the law of the law that the final verdict was he should not be until it was firmly established that he was a known, proven, certified gang member, etc. And had violated this. And then, but they'd done that so much due process. But he was looking at the ultimate, not the penultimate or the earlier rulings.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Senator Kennedy made that point in saying that when they were talking because it's all about due process. And Andy also talks about that. But Senator Kennedy said not only has he had due process, meaning all the courts that he's been in so far, but it's probably cost the American taxpayer like $5 million. I don't know what his figure was.
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Jack
Think about the other thing. How many engineers from India, from Taiwan, from Indonesia, from Belgium, PhDs, MA, all these people, MDs from Ukraine, all these people want to come in here and they are applying legally and they've never committed a crime, they've never been near a gang. They're self supporting, they have real assets and they want to come to the United States and we won't process them. And this guy just cuts in front of the line and then he abuses our hospitality by beating up a woman and trafficking and with gang affiliations by. With a gang that's a terrorist. The State Department terrorist designated group. And so I don't, I understand the law, but I also understand the left doesn't. I would say to Andy, when you write this article, why don't you write one right next to it? I don't have a problem with him if he wants to write that. But J.D. vance was he. I thought it was too ad hominem that he was a demagogue and all of this, but why don't you write an article right next to it and say the abuse of the law by. And he, Andy was a federal prosecutor, so he could say that Robert Hur had one set of laws that Jack Smith did not follow. Robert Hur found that Joe Biden, In I think four on secure locations going back at least 30 years, had classified documents. He also found out that Joe Biden never willingly offered to come forward and point that out to federal investigators. He only did so when he had appointed a special counsel. And then when somebody went to him and said, if you appointed a special counsel to go after Donald Trump for improperly taking out documents, do you think you ever did it? Because somebody will find out, oh, yeah, I'll come forward, but I'll volunteer, so it'll be different. And then third, after he went through all of this, he found out that it was illegal. And then unlike Donald Trump, I mean, they had said Donald Trump was crazy. Remember that? That he had to take the. He took the Montreal cognitive assessment. That was what. And Rod Rosenstein was going to wear wire with Andrew McCabe and find him, you know, crazy. So, so if they thought Joe Biden was crazy or demented and that therefore he was not criminally liable, maybe they could have said that about Trump. Maybe Jack Smith could say, he's kind of wild. I don't think he knew what he was doing, because I have to say that, because they just said it with Joe Biden and used. And no prosecutor is supposed to be a psychiatrist. He's supposed to take the case to the jury or the grand jury or whatever. You don't have 21. I understand they have to get a case they think they can win, but they could have won this case. But he's psychoanalyzing that people would see Joe and they'd see he's enfeebled. He was a tired old man with a bad memory, and they'd be sympathetic. And then the final proverbial cherry was that the ghostwriter who was writing the memoirs was given classified information by Joe Biden. Kind of spice up the memoir, make it saleability. And then he got panicked when Joe went forward, so he destroyed them. And then Robert Hearst said, I Want those tapes because they will show that you were discussing without a security clearance, which is a felony, classified information, knowingly so. Oh, I destroyed them. Okay, you destroyed federal evidence. You can imagine if Donald Trump destroyed a bunch of them, he'd be in jail. So then they said, why did you destroy them? Hur said, well, I was afraid that I was doing it for the good of the country. I was afraid somebody might hack the information. So it was so contorted and it was such an abuse of the law and there was so asymmetrical treatment of two a president and an ex president. Given what Smith was on his vendetta and twisting the law and Robert Hur was twisting the law or under pressure to twist it, that is that compared to this guy, you could write a whole book on that, and you could write a whole book on the 25 states that tried to get him off the ballot. And you could write a whole book on Alvin Bragg and Fanny Willis and Jack Smith and Letitia James and E. Jean Carroll.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Apparently, there are several whole books coming out about Joe Biden or with information about Joe Biden.
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Jack
So my point is that this, it's not a cause celeb. It's not a hill to die on. This guy is a thug. And yes, let's follow the niceties. So we respect the law and let's not say like Joe Biden did. I got around the court and bragged about it. But it's something that is a losing situation because, you know, it's Luigi Mangione, it's Carmelo Anthony, it's Mahmoud Khalil. They have a fixation on people who are unsavory. One kid is alleged. Alleged. Just got angry and pulled out a knife and stuck it in somebody. And why was he carrying a knife at 17? Stuck it in the chest of somebody, then took off and ran. The next person was the point person for Divest, a violent group of students that took over halls at Columbia, disrupted classes, shouted and praised. October 7th. Why do we want that guy here? And then, of course, the assassin. He was an assassin who killed it. And they're all the people the left has canonized in one way or another. And I don't understand it. Why don't they worry about the people who are the victims of all these people?
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, well, it seems to me that they're going to be losing most of their constituency unless they somehow manage to turn it around from these extremists. But let's go ahead and take a break, Victor, and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about the Department of Defense and Pete Hagseth. Stay with us and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor is on X. His handle is at VD Hansen. He's also on Facebook at Hanson's Morning Cuff. And like I said, you can come join his website, victorhanson.com the name of it is the Blade of Perseus and you can join it for $65 a year or just try it out for $6.50 a month. So Pete Hegseth is busy dismantling DEI in the military, looking for expecting accountability for Afghanistan, rebuilding our defenses and he's got morale up as it hasn't been in many years. And yet in the Senate Tim Kaine is criticizing him for having poor judgment professionally and personally and for gaffes that he's making and he feels like this is justified critique of Pete Hegseth or I hope I didn't get it wrong, Department of Defense.
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Jack
I'm not saying what about some but did Tim Kaine say anything when the former chief of defense went AWOL for seven days and never told anybody he was in serious health and tried to cover it up? Did Tim Kaine ever say, let me just put it all in perspective. Is firing two or three of your top aides a cause for dismissal? Or overseeing the entire collapse of the American project in Afghanistan? The murder killing of 13 Marines, the surrender of a billion dollar embassy, a 300 million dollar retrofitted Bagram Air Force Base and the entire 50 billion dollar munitions stash from planes. And they're all in terrorist hands down, the international terrorist market. That's what Lloyd Austin did. I didn't hear anything from Tim Kaine. So why is he firing people? Because there and I wrote about it in the New Criterion about the paradoxes of the MAGA movement. The MAGA movement in theory says we are Jacksonian and some of the MAGA people interpret that as neo isolationist. We just the Middle east isn't worth it. Nobody. It's not worth the bones of one. To paraphrase Bismarck, one American Marine to go over there. They're all hopeless. Let's just keep out, build our fortress America. And the other is, well, we don't go nation building after the disasters. But we're Jacksonians. No better friend, no worse enemy. Don't tread on me. So we're like a tiger, we're crouching and you screw around with us. The Houthis you tell you say you're going to get a Bomb and destroy our friend Israel. You go slaughter a bunch of people on October 7th. You hit installations in Syria, we're going to hit you hard. And that's the tension. So he's got the MAGA people telling Pete Hegseth, are you with, we want to know, are you with JD Vance or are you with Waltz and the interventionist, or are you neutral like Marco Rubio? And when you had that leaked conversation, he went back and forth, it kind of ended up more with the J.D. vance people. But he's also a Jacksonian. So the people who want him to be Jacksonian and retaliate or, you know, have a big presence around the world and don't take crap from anybody and restore deterrence. They're leaking about the MAGA people and the MAGA people are saying these are war hawks. And some of them have gone to Tucker Carlson and said, I was some. I think two of the three were MAGA people and I think one of them may have been a counter casualty who was a hawk. But they're going to people like Tucker and everything and saying the war people want to go. And when I define hawks versus neo isolationist, the issue that everybody's discussing in the Defense Department as in the State Department is whether to preemptively take out the nuclear program in Iran. So there's people in the Defense Department as well as the State Department. They're going to heccsef and they're saying, look, no one has ever, ever trusted the Iranians. They are pathological liars. They are in the most vulnerable position in their entire history. Their air defenses are a shambles. The Houthis are emasculated. Hamas is almost non existent. The formidable Hezbollah, they're in disarray. Their client in Syria, Assad, is kaput. If you're ever going to stop them from the bomb, given their line and duplicity and look at the Obama deal. It was completely crafted to let them have a bomb in 10 years. Now is the time you can join the Israelis and you can go in there and bomb it and get commandos and just wipe it out. And that might cause internal revolutions. And then there is the other side and said, first of all, it's none of our business to go in there and interfere. And if they say that they're going to get rid of the bomb, they're probably lying. But we can deal with it when they get a bomb. And that's Israel's problem, not ours. That's the tension. So each side are leaking to make the other side look like they're ridiculous. And he's new, he's only been there 90 days. So he's got to decide where his president is. And Donald Trump is in both camps.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Donald Trump is always in both camps, huh?
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Jack
Yeah, he is.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah, he's in whatever camp.
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Jack
I mean, Tulsi Gabbard will go say we don't want endless forever wars. And he'll say, I'm not, they're bad deals, Tulsi. You spend too much money. That was a disaster in Iraq, it was a disaster in Afghanistan. And then the next day somebody like Waltz will go say, the Houthis are laughing at us. They've taken over the Red Sea. We can't put a ship, this little two bed outfit of thugs and terrorists is trying to attack. And Trump said, do they attack an American ship? Go bomb them. And that's, you have to reconcile those two positions.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, let's turn to another senator and left wing individual who's often in the news and she's in the news a lot this week, Elizabeth Warren. Apparently the agency she helped to create, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, has been regulating Native American financial institutions. And the Native Americans are very angry at our Pocahontas. And then the second thing is she's angry at Trump for collecting on student loans. And so I was wondering how you.
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Jack
Believe everybody's talking about the rule of law. They're talking about poor Mr. Garcia. We must, we must honor the rule of law to the letter. Well, the letter says if you take out a loan from the, and it's guaranteed by the federal government and you non payment, it's about 13 or 14% of all the federal loans. And the whole loan portfolio is up to $1.7 trillion. And so a lot of people are just paying interest with no principal. But 10 or 12% just said, forget it, they'll never do anything to me. Because Biden started giving rolling amnesties which were illegal. He can't just by arbitrary fiat cancel a federal contract. But that's what he did. And so she's really basically saying, what is she saying? She's saying, well, we have a $2 trillion deficit. We're $37 trillion. What's another trillion? Let's just give it to them and then they'll be happy. And I can run on, you know, I'll run for senator saying I, Elizabeth Warren gave you free stuff and you got it with them. But if you look at the dynamics of it, the bulk of the loans are not Joe working class student who took out 25, 30,000 and can't pay it back. There's a lot of those, but it's mostly people in medical school, law school, business school, education professionals who have good incomes now. And they just are sitting on 30, 40, 50, $100,000 of loan, and they don't want to pay it back. And some of them have the ability to do it. So I think. And then the other subtext is, Donald Trump hates the Ivy League and he hates snooty higher education. He's basically saying to all these people, you're just an indoctrination factory. All you do is teach hatred and you're biased and you defy the Supreme Court on affirmative action, and you're woke. And you have segregated graduations. You have these big endowments. Just guarantee the loan. These guys are so great. And you'll think they'll pay it back. Harvard just say $5 billion of our endowment is now dedicated to guaranteeing our student loans. So they can borrow the money from banks. And instead of the federal government, Harvard will guarantee it. And then you know what will happen? They will graduate in four years, and Harvard will steer them to a lucrative major, that will be a lucrative lifetime career. And Harvard will get them. They'll go after them. Unlike the federal government, Harvard will go after them. And so that's what Trump is saying.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Even more so than Trump is by expecting repayment.
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Jack
One last afterthought about Elizabeth Warren. She wrote a book, I actually looked at it, about how to flip houses and make money. And then she wrote also a cookbook, her Indian Native American recipes, many of which she lifted and stole from other people. And then she's in the Harvard directory as the first Native American law professor she came from. I don't know, was it Baylor, University of Texas or somewhere in Texas. But my point is this. It's demonstrably true that her whole career changed when she was hired as a Harvard law professor. That put her in the nexus of the Boston to Washington power corridor. Had she not got that job at Harvard Law School, we would never be talking about her right now. That launched her career. But my point is this. That career was launched on a fraud. It was launched on the idea that she said she was a Native American, and they liked that because they couldn't find any Native American law professors. So here was this blonde, kind of attractive woman in her 50s. Oh, wow, she's Native American. She's got high cheekbones. It was all a fraud. And if you follow the fraud, then her Harvard law professor was. Was a fraud. Her senatorship was a fraud. All of it was a fraud. Nobody would ever dare say that until Donald Trump came by and he just said one magic word, Pocahontas. And that just, it just, it was a word that he picked because it deliberately irritated the political correctness, because they hate Pocahontas. She's a Native American sellout by having a romance with a white colonialist. So, oh, my God, he's still bringing up Pocahontas. And he said, and then he said, just take a DNA test. And why did she do it? She did it. And it was like point one or something.
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Victor Davis Hanson
She should have stuck with the high cheekbone story.
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Jack
My three children have more Native American. I asked them. They did 20. Yeah, they did that. They had more Native American heritage than she did.
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Victor Davis Hanson
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Jack
Government a million dollars and be given a lifetime exemption from plagiarism. Where is Claudine Gay today? She was president. She had every. I think she was probably with her portfolio and her salary over $2 million. And then she was fired because and that's so terrible. It was so hard on her. And then she went into political science, and people said she's a plagiarist. Her whole career is based on plagiarism. And they said she was Harvard president. End of story. That's not such a bad life. There's somebody listening to me right now who is on a D9 all day long, and he's making $22 an hour in the snow, working right in the Midwest. And you say to him, it would be a terrible job to be president of Harvard. You only make a million dollars. So this is insane. And if it's such a terrible job, I think in my career at different universities as visiting Professors, Cal State, U.S. naval Academy, Pepperdine, I would say that I have met 50 faculty members who wanted to be deans, 30 deans that wanted to be vice provost, 20 vice provosts that wanted to be provost, 10 provosts that wanted to be president, and five presidents that want to be chancellors. So if it's so bad, why do they all want to do it? And they all want to do it because they love the big, beautiful university residents, they love the salary, and they don't really want to make change. The only president I ever knew that shook up things and really did things was Max Nikias at usc. He worked like crazy. That's one of the reasons they got angry at him. Him. Because he was. But the point is, don't feel sorry for these Ivy League presidents at all. They're running something that's so disingenuous. And as I said before, it's a mossy rock. And you turn over the rock, it looks nice on the surface. And then there's crawling animals underneath. And they are segregationists. They have everything segregated by race. Dorms, safe spaces, graduation. Oh, no, Victor. They're auxiliary. They're by choice. Then you go to those things. I used to go to some of them, and they're all one race. And the dorms. Oh, this is the theme house. There's no white guy in the black theme house. There's no black guy in the La Raza theme house, unless he's from Latin America. And the weirdest thing is, if somebody said there's 20 or 30% white guys at the Ivy League, they're going to have a European something that would. I think that would be insane. They would go ballistic. The whole thing is a fraud. And then they're having remedial courses because they got into George Floyd Panic and they thought they were going to out. We were the first to get rid of the sat. Well, we were the second to. No, no, you were the third. To get rid of Comparative Adjudication of high school GPAs. We dropped all that. So if you got a, I don't know, a 4.0 at Selma High School, that was the same thing as Prep School 4.0. That's what they were doing. And everybody's going to learn about it. They're going to learn about the student loans. They're going to learn about the bias faculties. They're going to learn about the segregated spaces. They're going to learn that if you. There's about three things at a university. If somebody comes up anonymously and says Victor was. Victor was a sexual harasser or Victor said a hate speech word, they're going to call me before a forum. There's going to be no. They're going to tell me no counsel. And I'm going to say, who said that? Can I relate you a story? It's very relevant from. Okay, go ahead. I was at a university that'll be unnamed, and I had a colleague who was up for tenure. I won't mention her, and I didn't. I was going to vote for her tenure, but I didn't think she was an impressive candidate. But I thought, given who was tenured, she met that lowest bar. She filed a complaint against me because she said she was walking down an outside corridor and we had heavy steel doors at that place I taught, heavy steel doors outside. There was no interior hallway and it was loud with students. And she said for some reason, she put her ear to the door and I had to share. And she said that she heard a colleague say to Victor, that wasn't that person very unattractive. And I said something to the effect that she was. I've never mentioned. Of course, this was all made up. So she went and reported me for sexual insult. Imagine that, walking down a corridor and saying, it's very noisy. And some administrator never. So I went in and the person, the vice provost for personnel, said, this is very serious. Professor Hindson, I know you think you're a hotshot with publishing books at this place, but we've got a serious. I said, what is the complaint? The complaint was that you said something that was derogatory about a colleague and it was off color. I said, well, who is the person? I can't tell you. I have to protect her constitutional anonymity. And I said, well, I don't even know what you're talking about. And I said, well, how did they. Well, apparently you and your office mate were talking in the interior. So I said, apparently we talk sometimes in our office when we're. And he said, yes. And somebody was walking by. And I said, well, who is it? Is that the person that's the complainer? I can't give that information. And so. But it was of a derogatory sexual nature. It was something that she was so unattractive that nobody would want to. I can't even think of it. And I said, so how did she hear though? Because it's out in the middle of the public. Well, she knew that you might be involved in her tenure decision, so she put her ear. So I said, so she was eavesdropping through a steel door outside and she claims she heard this, but I don't even know who it is. I knew who it was because he gave it away. But then my point is, I said, and you're going to investigate me? So you know what I said?
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Victor Davis Hanson
I bet you gave him example using him.
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Jack
Yes. I said, dear Vice President X, I am going to see the provost whom I knew and liked and I'm going to tell him her the following. What are you going to tell her? And I said, I am going to tell her that I was in a bathroom stall. Yes. In the administration building and I heard some commotion in the next stall and I didn't know what was going on. So I got off out of my stall and went over to the next stall and put my ear next to it. And I think I recognized your voice and I think there was something going on with you there. And he said, that's not true. I said, I don't know. And I'm going to go make a complaint. But I'm going to say one thing. I do not want to be identified, but I'm going to say that Vice Provost X was in a bathroom stall talking about sexual things with somebody in that stall and I just happened to hear it. So I put my ear against it and I don't want to be identified, but I want action against him. So he looks at me, well, that's not true. I said, exactly. So then he said, I'm a provost. I said, vice Provost. And so I go and I said, I will guarantee you. And I was serious. And I said, It's 10 minute walk back to my office. When I get back to my office, I'm calling the provost to lodge this complaint. So that would be a lie. That would ruin you. I said, I don't care. I'm a farmer. I don't Get. So I get back and there's my little phone. We had new phones. We used to have cartridge tape for phone calls you missed recording. And it was blinking. We had these new Sony phones. It was blinking three times. And the first one was, you're going to be in big trouble. The second one was, I don't think this is wise. The third one was, please don't do this. We've dropped all charges, we've dropped all investigations against you. And that's the kind of people that academia has. And I know that a lot of you think I'm crazy, but my point is, over 50 years in academia as a graduate student, a graduate TA, teaching in graduate school, being a professor in the Cal State system, being a visitor at about four different colleges, and being at Stanford University, I can tell you my respect for academics is very low. And so I don't have any empathy for somebody who says in the Atlantic, of all places, the Lisa jobs, that we have to have empathy because these poor presidents who have allowed anti Semitism, so they are now starting to act a little bit. Harvard is, they're worried that they have a joint program with Bezier University in Palestine, which was a hate fest. You know, they have a campus, or I shouldn't say a campus, but a reciprocal agreement with a. And now they may drop it. So my point is, why are they doing all these things now? Why didn't they do it before? Why did Donald Trump have to galvanize? It's called money, money, money. They don't listen to anybody. They go up there and lie and say, well, we're doing all. They don't do anything. They disrupt classes, they don't do anything. They just yesterday Columbia had said to Donald Trump, we are going to punish disruptive students that are pro Hamas. And they just chained themselves through the gate and they said, this is in violation of Columbia's statutes, especially our newly enforced ones. And then they called the police and they unbolted them and they said, see you go away. But there was never anything. They just committed a felony by locking themselves to a gate illegally and they're going to be expelled. So it's not a hard job. It really isn't. I mean, it's a hard job, but it's not a hard job like Juan, the guy that put my roof on, and Victor, look at this and he's got 40 pounds of prudential shingles on his shoulders. He's tiptoeing 30ft above the ground on the crest of a two story Victorian house. It's 150 years old with that weight on it. I mean, that is courageous and that is hard. Or some of the people, it's not like Juan and Armando that were up in the attic at 120 degrees rewiring the house in July, you know what I mean? The poor guys that were putting, taking all the insulation out of this house and I went up there with them with a mask and there was some illegal glass insulation. There was dead mice, there was a dead owl, there was a dead cat. And they were out there and it was 140, you know, and I was bringing them water. That is a hard job. And I tip them, I try to give them as much money so that. But my point is people listening have empathy for people like that. They don't have empathy for people who go before Congress and make a million dollars and lie out of their teeth. Lie to their teeth. They don't. And I wish people would keep that perspective in academia. They are the most blessed. It's a hard job to teach and correct papers and everything. But you know, you look at how many hours you're actually in the classroom and summers, it's not, it's not driving a truck down the 99 every single day for 12 hours.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, that was my impression with that Atlantic article. I thought, wow, this is just telling us the caliber and the character of the people they have to change, choose from. If they can't find anybody to run.
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Jack
The place, once in a while they find somebody that's really good. Well, Max, John Silver at Boston, he just fired people. Max Nikias at usc. And then what do they do? They try to get. They get. You can't be that. You're not supposed to be forceful, direct and honest.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah.
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Jack
You're supposed to be double dealing and talk out of both sides of your mouth and contextualize. On the one hand, this is very important and we'll form a committee. But let's not rush to judgment. I have to hear three sides of every argument as when I. That's what they want.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about some of the Democratic senators. And one of them is Senator Warnock. So stay with us and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor is now on YouTube and rumble and actually Spotify. Our Spotify crowd is not all that large. So if you are a Spotify user, go to. I think I called it the Victor Davis Hansen Podcast Show. No, the Victor Davis Hansen Podcast On Spotify. I had to give it up.
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Jack
You don't even know my title.
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Victor Davis Hanson
No, I don't. There's other people that have. Well, legitimately John Solomon's group has the audio for that. So anyway, back to the Senator Warnock apparently has been caught or has been recently revealed that he is living in a million dollar home rent free and it is provided by his church. And that is impropriety, since you shouldn't be. That's a gift.
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Jack
All he has to do is report it and see if there's IRS implications for exceeding the gift tax. But I suggested he call a lawyer. I have a recommendation. He could call Letitia James, she could give him advice about, I don't know, real estate fraud and housing fraud and non disclosure and advise him of all the penalties that he might incur as a senator. Be a good idea.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Speaking of that, actually did you see that Carmelo lawyer come out and he said that there was a rainy day and the school should have canceled the track meet and that this whole thing would not have occurred because lightning could.
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Jack
Have hit somebody and it wouldn't occurred either. All would have to occur was there was about five steps that he could have taken. Step number one, he didn't have to go to school to the track meet with a concealed weapon. Number two, he didn't have to go onto the wrong side of the field. Anybody who goes to high school games, junior high games, JC no, if you go and sit on the other side and yell and make it known that you're not one, that's stupid. Number three, when he was told to stop, right, he could have stopped. He could have said, yes, I'll be quiet, I'm on the wrong side and left. Number four, he didn't have to take out his knife. He could have had a fist fight, he could have. Number five, if he did take out of his knife and if he was foolish enough to use it, he could have, I don't know, stabbed him in the arm, stabbed him in the leg, he stabbed him in the heart. He tried to kill him deliberately. He's a murderer if these allegations prove true. But what's happened is, and I want to be very careful how I say that, and by the way, the lawyer and the spokesperson is a convicted felon and he's completely unhinged about race and he's trying to say that this guy is the murderer, is the victim because of racism and he doesn't understand that four, five years after George Floyd nearly getting into the fifth year, people are had it with Reparations, they're had it with tribalism. We've looked at the BLM group of women that stole all the money and bought themselves nice homes and accoutrements. That was a complete fraud. And any black leader who has used the race card, whether it's Letita James, Fannie Willis, Fanny Willis gave us, she gave the nation a tutorial on how black people are different than white people because they have a lot of cash and don't use credit cards. That day that she said that I was behind an African, one of the nicest people I've ever met, and he had two credit cards. He was using it at the food store. I thought it can't be true. Fannie said you only use cash. And then you have Letita James saying that it's a racist, racist. They're going after her because of racism. And then you have Alvin Bragg using the race card and you put all this together and people are just tired of racial essentialism. Everybody's tired of them. 26% of black males are tired of it and voted for Donald Trump, 23 to 26. So I guess what I'm saying is that once you set a precedent that because of a particular status you're exempt from criticism and inquiry and audit, then you're going to encourage, you lose deterrence. So if they, and this is what happened in the south when they said if a Southerner is in a fight with an African American or a dispute under Jim Crow, the Southerner will be believed regardless of the evidence, killing them, Kill a Mockingbird type thing. And that that encouraged that type of behavior of the white person, encouraged it. He thought that he was going to be exempt. And if you do that to anybody, if you do it, as I said earlier with Jack, if you say to a rich kid, you got into Stanford or you got Harvard because your dad cut a $10 million check when he gets to campus, he doesn't think he really has to get a work. He really doesn't think that if he gets in trouble he's going to call his dad. Any type of exemption like that. So it's a bad thing. But collectively you can see that Warnock doesn't think that the rules apply to him. Not that everybody does this, but there's a pattern now that when. And you mentioned the Camelo Anthony lawyer, that when a high profile, the juicy Smollett case, that they say things that they feel they can say regardless of the truth, these people in these high positions or celebrities or whatever, or people that have become celebrities are Nefarious. Trayvon Brown, Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Michael Ford. And they think they're going to get away with it because you don't dare do that. But that era, I think, is over with and it will be good for everybody. Everybody should be treated the same and just switch the roles for everybody. Just think about something for a second. You have an all star African American twin and he and his brother are sitting on their side at a track meet watching it, and some white guy comes, gets up, puts a knife into his backpack or his rucksack, deliberately goes over to the side where the two black twins are who are athletes, and then starts talking and cheering the other side or whatever and provokes a fight. Then the white person pulls out a knife and stabs this black twin who dies in his brother's arm, in the heart, and then he runs away. What do you think the. What would be the attitude of the black community, the white community? What would happen? You can understand what would happen. Do you think that person would be let out on $250,000 bail in Texas? What if a white judge then said, well, we usually, for alleged murder, maybe second degree murder, we usually have a million to two million dollar bail. But you know, this kid looks pretty good to me, not in trouble. So I'm just going to let him out on 250. So his parents just have to put 225,000 up. You know what? Then he's going to have a GoFundMe, oh, $400,000. Then his family is going to go rent a house in a gated community for 3,500, where they buy a 4 or 500,000. What would be the outcry? And then somebody's going to say, well, Victor, there's a legacy of we're seven generations away from the Civil War, we're 50 years getting on, 60 years from the civil rights movement. So it's time just to forget racial essentialism. It's incidental to who we are. And all of these people keep thinking that they're going to get media and money and they're going to get exemptions and it's not going to work anymore. I didn't help Senator Menendez, who tried to play the Latino card at once. You know, his wife just got indicted and convicted. Yeah. Remember, he had all the gold bars and his thing and he was a complete crook. And he's going to go to jail. I think she's going to, obviously to reduce her sentence, is going to rat him out. But just because he had a Hispanic Surname is not going to help him. I think that it didn't work, is what I'm saying. Trying to remedy the sins of the past by emulating the sins of the past.
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Victor Davis Hanson
And so it won't work. What do you think they'll charge Anthony with? Carmel?
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Jack
I think there'll be some discussion of either voluntary manslaughter because he hit him in the heart and he had a concealed weapon, or second degree murder. I would go for second degree murder. I don't know if there'll be people who will try to say first degree murder. And by that they'll mean that he planned to take a. It's a little stretch, but he planned to take the knife. He knew. He knowingly took that knife to the other side, knowing that there might be a confrontation. And he wanted a confrontation. He wanted to kill somebody. I don't know if that's. I don't think that would be a stress. I would go for second degree murder.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Would that be. If they could prove that, which I guess they probably would have a hard time, would that be first degree murder? Definitely, because that's preplanned.
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Jack
If it was premeditated, that when he went over there, he doesn't have to be that he wrote it out in a plan. It just has to be. If he knew that when he went to that track meet, he took a knife and he knew that when he went over there, if he got in trouble, he was going to use that knife. And then he chose to get in trouble and he chose to use that knife, and he chose it to use it in a manner which directed it at the heart. So it was a fatal, a premeditated idea. I'm going to kill that guy. I think a prosecutor might try to plea bargain it down to second degree. 20 years, 30 years in prison. It's Texas and so it's not California.
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Victor Davis Hanson
All right, Victor, let's go ahead and have a look at some of the comments on your podcasts in this case on YouTube. This is on the recent one that you and Jack just published on Tuesday. It says, as far as Mussolini goes. Oh, wait, sorry. This is on the one that you did. The 1930s fascism. As far as Mussolini goes, he made a mistake in aligning himself formally with Hitler. He didn't have to. Hitler would have been satisfied with a benevolent, neutral Italy. Scheier writes about this in the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which still would have threatened France and Britain in the Mediterranean. You can argue that Mussolini was succumbing to megalomania as Hitler was and it clouded his judgment. It's a counterfactual, a what if. But you could make an argument that had Mussolini chosen the same route as Franco, he and his regime would have survived the war intact and perhaps even handed off to a fascist successor. And that's the Baronetnter.net yeah, I think.
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Jack
He'S right about that. And I wrote something to that effect in the Second World War as if he had played the Swedish or Spanish card or Portuguese card and been neutral. So then the question. Because he had, after the fall of France, he had the largest fleet in the Mediterranean. It was larger than the British fleet in the Mediterranean. They didn't have good night vision for night artillery, but he had, I think six, six battleships. He had about 60 heavy cruisers, light cruisers. It was a big fleet. And Hitler wanted that fleet to go into, you know, it was, they thought they were going to take Malta and then they would have the Mediterranean, they take Suez. It didn't quite work out that way. So why did he join the war? He joined the war. Not when Hitler invaded Poland. So the letter writer is correct. He was looking at, he had his finger in the wind. So he said, well, he's in Poland. Everybody said, well, he's going to win. By the way, he was older by about, I think 12 or 13 years and he'd been in power not 10 years longer. So Hitler looked up to him as a model. So then he looked at Poland, he didn't do anything. Then he looked at Norway, he didn't do anything. Then he looked at Denmark and he didn't do anything. The big decision was France because he had been an ally of France and Britain in World War I and fought the German speaking Austrians of the Austrian Hungarian Empire. But when France started to be overrun, he thought, he looked at the map of Europe and he said, every single capital is in Nazi hands. All of Europe, everything, or it's neutral. You can go through country by country. The whole thing was in it. And I can carve up. He actually invaded France to carve some border territory. Had to be kind of bailed out by Hitler. And then he looked at the Mediterranean. He thought, Britain's going to fall because it's all alone. The United States is not going to come in. The Soviet Union is on the side of Hitler. So what's going to happen, say from late May? Well, they invaded on May 10th, but it fell in 27 days. France by the 20th day they knew. I think that's when he, he was getting courted also by the British who Wanted to use him to talk to Hitler to see if they could stop Hitler. This was not Churchill. Churchill said, halifax, if you want to go, do it, do it. It won't work. But there were clandestine negotiations via Mussolini to see if they could make some deal. And Hitler supposedly said, well, you can keep the British anyway. The point I'm making is he looked at the Mediterranean and he said that we're trapped by the jaws of Suez and Gibraltar, can't get out. So he went to Hitler and said, I will supply the fleet. I want to carve off some France. And then I am going to invade Egypt. Because he had won East Africa, Somalia, and then he had lost it to the British. But he said, I'm going to invade the British and they're not going to be supplied U boats. And he miscalculated. The British not only supplied their forces in Egypt, they routed the Italians and then Rommel had to intervene to save them. And then it was downhill from there. He just bet on the wrong horse. Had he waited to make that decision from May, June 1940, had he waited as early as January of 41 or 42, 41, he could have seen that Britain was not going to fall. They didn't have a navy to take the island, they didn't have the Luftwaffe, couldn't bomb it, and then he could have stayed neutral.
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Victor Davis Hanson
I have some other ones here. Nice. And advice for you. This one's nice. It's by Nonimus. I greatly enjoy your talks. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, experience and wisdom with us. I am praying that you will recover from your illness soon and have a lovely and peaceful remainder of your life. I just finished watching this program, Real fascism of the 1930s, and feel at peace knowing that God is in control and that he has given you to us to explain what's happening in this day and age. That was very sweet.
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Jack
I had the flu for two weeks. I got on a plane, I got a sinus infection. I thought it would go away for a month and then I took antibiotic. It didn't do it. And then I got worse and worse. And I'm on another antibiotic and I hope I can avoid, I guess, a fourth operation of counting those little stents I've had, plus a major operation, my sinuses. But that's very nice.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Yeah.
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Jack
I'm not a gift from God, believe me, if you read my email, it might be a gift from the underworld.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, some. Since you're talking about sinuses, I have some. These are all very short, but advice on sinuses. Ruth, Simon says, please try acupuncture for your sinuses.
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Jack
I do.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Very good, Ruth. He's right there with you. And angelo Carrillo says, Mr. Hansen. What? Angelica. Sorry. Carrillo. Mr. VDH. And then she says, try one ounce of tequila, one teaspoon of honey, and one ounce of lemon every six hours. And Daniel Berry says, try baby shampoo, two teaspoons and four cups of water, and rinse your sinuses with this.
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Jack
I do the neti. My problem was that once you have your turbinates cut, your septum straightened, your polyps removed, and most importantly, your maxillary tunnel passages enlarge from basically 1 millimeter. You don't have any cilia hairs left that move the mucus. And I was. I didn't. I was told by a wonderful surgeon in Palo Alto. I can name him. His name is Hester. He's a great guy. And he said, you're gonna have to do a neti pot in the morning and in the night to move that because you have an allergic condition, an immune problem. So I didn't do it. I was feeling great, and I never. I mean, I'd had maybe 30 sinus infections my earlier life. I had stents put in everything. I'd taken Levaquin. I hated that. I'd taken Augmentin. I hated that I got allergic to those. So I didn't want to do it. But then this thing came along, and I should have been doing the Neti pot. I didn't. And the flu. I got on a plane and the elevation. And I came home on the thing, and I thought, I can. I tried nose sprays. I tried oregano. I tried. You name it, I tried it. Steam.
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Victor Davis Hanson
There was another advice to use your oregano. Yes.
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Jack
I used oregano. I used the sprays. I did the neti pot, and I did the gorilla Sellin for eight days of doxycillin. I made me sick as a dog. And now I'm on a Z pack. And I'm hoping that I. This will do the trick. I have to fly in two days. I'm stopping all flying after June 1st. I have three big flights, and then I can't. 71. I said to myself, no mas, Roberto Duran. I give up. No mas. And I really appreciate that. But I think this will work. And steam is very valuable. Get a little steamer, inhale, get a little rinse, then wash it out. And if it doesn't work, the surgeon, who's a wonderful person, will do kind of a modified enlargement. And I don't want to do that, that was kind of a medieval in his hands. He reduced the normal surgery, four surgeries in once. He probably went from three or four hours down to less than an hour. He was an expert at it. My son has the same problem and I wish that he would get it addressed.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Well, Victor, thank you for everything today and thanks to our audience for choosing to join us today. Try to catch Victor on YouTube or Rumble. He's on both. And thank you.
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Jack
Yeah, thank you. One last thing. You mentioned all these suggestions. I went to my, as I said, the first dermatologist I ever had and I asked, how many operations have you had? And I didn't realize I've had eight. And I was feeling very old and decrepit. Right. But he said eight. And then I mentioned he wanted to know and I told them each one. He looked at me like I was insane. You know what I mean? How could you get a ruptured appendix in Libya? How could you get a torn ureter in Greece? How could your bike fall apart? How could you get three kidneys? You know, he didn't say that. That was the expression. He was kind of. He was a wonderful dermatologist.
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Victor Davis Hanson
He was talking to a very accident prone person.
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Jack
Reckless, reckless in my youth and even reckless reckless. All of the operations and all the malaria and all that stuff was preventable had I just been sober and judicious. So I blame myself. Don't get on a plane when you have a dull ache below your navel and say, well, it's not on the right side yet. It moves to the right side right before it bursts. Especially don't get on a plane to Libya.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Okay, thank you, Victor Davis Hanson. And this is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hanson. And we're signing off.
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Jack
Thank you very much for listening and watching.
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