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The Restoration: The First Order of Business for the Trump Administration
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Jack Fowler
Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen. This is the Victor Davis Hansen Show. I'm Jack Fowler. Still elated. Jack Fowler, the host here to ask questions of the great Victor Davis Hansen, the namesake of the show. He is the Martin and Eli Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne Marsha Busky distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. He's a best selling author. One of his books was called the Case for Trump. Victor, I think a lot of people maybe bought that book and learned from it.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I hope so. There's a new edition out with a new forward.
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Jack Fowler
So it's still, still worthwhile because I think though the case for Trump will have to continue to be made over the next.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yeah, I've had a couple people have wanted me to. I just talked yesterday with my literary agent once, something called the Trump Rebound and the, or the Trump Renaissance and his agenda. Something like that. Trump and his Renaissance agenda.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, it's. You're a machine when it comes to writing.
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Victor Davis Hansen
It's not always good.
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Jack Fowler
Well, keeps you, keeps you out of, out of trouble. We are recording on Sunday the 10th. This particular episode will be up on Tuesday the 12th. In between will have been Veterans Day. So a hardy, well, appreciation for all of America's veterans. God bless all we've got. So much to talk about today. I know we're going to record two shows today, but we're going to start off with something I did not get to in the last time we talked, Victor, and that was to look at this election in terms of 1865. We talked about it in terms of 1980 and how, how there were some echoes there, but kind of echoes we don't want from 1865. We're going to talk about Trump's agenda role, some of the military already talking about how they're, how they might try to block whatever Donald Trump wants to do, how deportation should be handled, and then hopefully we'll have time for it on this episode. The terrible, terrible, let's call it what it is, a pogrom in Amsterdam. We'll get to all of this in Victor's wisdom when we come back from these important messages.
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Jack Fowler
We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show. I forgot to mention, Victor's got a website, the Blade of Perseus. The web address is Victor Hansen dot com. I'll tell you why at the end you should be subscribing and also want to plant the seed. You know it's you Always seen that the Christmas ads on television. I think sending a subscription to the Blade of Perseus would make an excellent, excellent Christmas gift. Victor, let me. Let's start off getting your thoughts on this. And this is what I had written. We didn't get time for it. The last show. I want to know, Victor, would you caution to America remain on your guard? Richmond fell April 3, 1865. And there was, of course, euphoria at the time. There was the opportunity then to take this broken America and heal it and make it great. But two weeks later, April 14, 1865, Lincoln was shot. He was dead the next morning. And America was set on a very different and in many ways very bad path as regards a bitter and often murderous reconstruction. So here we are in 2024, today's euphoria. And I'm euphoric still. You know, just a great, great outcome this week. It's honest and it's deserved, but there are still very, very, very bad actors around and they are keen to do bad things. Some of them are foreign, some of them are domestic. Victor, your thoughts on that?
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Victor Davis Hansen
Well, I mean, Trump was criticized during the campaign. They asked him what would he would do if he ever would call out the National Guard military. And he said, if they're going to have like they had, they're going to have violent protests, as they did when he was. I think we forgot. But in 2017, they did, and everybody went crazy. But then the thing about the left is after going crazy because somebody thinks they're doing something, they only confirm that they're doing it. So they had this big protest the other day, and the organizers promised to have the biggest protest in history on Inauguration Day. Okay? And then everybody said, he can't call out the National Guard. Well, if he had called out the National Guard or had been able to sooner in May, June, July, August, September of 2020, we wouldn't had $2 billion in damages, 35 dead, 1500 police officers injured, a courthouse, church, police precinct torched. And we got to remember, the left never said anything about calling out the National Guard in the past when Rodney King riots took place. Colin Powell, who was kind of iconic at the end of his career among progressives because he was so adamantly anti Trump, but He sent George H.W. a note and said, I've got 5,000 Marines and they're ready at your call. And that's what exactly Bush did. He sent the Marines, not the National Guard. The US Marine Corps went into South Central LA to restore order. So this is not some Trump wild dream. But and then we hear these military officers supposedly are going to, I mean they, they're like the quote attributed to Talleyrand. They have forgotten nothing, they have learned nothing and they have forgotten nothing. They have, they're back right back in time to 2017 when Rosa Brooks, 11 days after the inauguration said in foreign policy, I think it was or foreign affairs, she said we have to get rid of the guy. There's only three ways to do it. Let's impeachment would take too long. 25th amendment take too long. And they try to do both. Remember? Right. And then so a military coup is the answer. And then that was a self fulfilling prophecy because that's what Millie did actually when he called up the head of the PLA and said, you're my counterpart. If I get an order that I deem as doctor, psychiatrist, psychologist, Millie, the I seem as too unstable, I will inform you first. And then he should have been fired. But he, I guess Trump didn't know it at the time. Then he violated his oath of office that says he's only in an advisory capacity. Then he basically staged a coup and said that the theater commanders were not to report to the Department of Defense, I. E. The secretary, but to him that should have been grounds for immediate dismissal. I think even Venman wrote that, that it should have been. Well, here they are again. Now they're. The grandees are reportedly talking about what to do if Trump issues in order. It's not their, it's not their duty as psychiatrist to psychoanalyze what the order is. If it's, you know, you can refuse an order, that's illegal. But Millie had no business trying to subvert the chain of command.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And so the military should realize that Donald Trump didn't cause 45,000 fewer recruits. They did. They did it by two things. By disparaging white males, as I keep saying, died at twice their numbers in the demographic in Iraq and Afghanistan, in front of Congress, in the nation. That was Lloyd Austin and Milley and the head of naval operations that kept saying white rage, white rage. They suffer from white privilege. White privilege, white privilege, white supremacy, white. Nobody wants to go into a military when they're demonizing the largest group of people who are in combat units. And then they had a DEI promise promotion and retention policy. And then they had a force multiplier of drumming out 8,500. Many of them were officers and the majority of them were white males. And they didn't want to get either a booster or the original VACCINATIONS and many of them, many of them, not all, but many of them said, I have had Covid, I test positive my for antibodies. I have immunity. And that we, immunity that we know now was as good or better than supplied by the vaccinations. So they've got a big problem with the military. And then, and I would suggest, kind of as I drift into the agenda, all Trump has to do, he shouldn't be talking about big deportations, shouldn't. Largest deportations in history. Mike Davis, one of his lawyers, said, we're going to go after the fat ass of Latita James. No, don't talk about it. Keep very quiet and just say we have a theme. We are going to correct the lawlessness, the lawlessness. We are going to restore the sanctity of the law. And that is going to apply into many different disciplines. Now, let's take the border. We did not let in 10 million, 12 million people illegally with over 300,000 violent felons. They did. If you do not want to deport them, then you are breaking the law. Because you broke the law once when you let them in. You broke the law twice when you allowed them to reside here, and you broke the law three times when you didn't deport them.
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Jack Fowler
Aiding and abetting.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yes. So all we're going to do is we're going to first maintain your safety. So we are going to, in a visible manner, go after the felons, and we will deport them if the countries don't want, want them back. We have methodologies to make them want them back. We can put trade embargoes on them, we can put tariffs on them. We can declare them terrorist organizations in the case of the cartels or Venezuelan gangs. And then we're going to warn everybody, if you came here illegally during the Biden administration, knowingly as part of that huge influx, you can go back to your country now. We urge you all to do it peacefully, voluntarily, and reapply for a green card. But you're going to have to do that, because if you come into contact with any US Agency, any agency, we're going to have to invite you back to your country. And that's all they have to do. Instead of saying, we're going to go have big deportations, don't brag about it. Just say, we're going to get the people who commit crimes first. And then round two, we're going to tell people, please, please, we do not want to have a big deportation. But if you come in contact, you get A parking ticket. You could get any type of law enforcement. We're going to have a national, a national reporting complex. We're all going to report people who are not here. If you come in contact. And we don't want you to have to be deported summarily. We would like you to plan for it. So do it now. Do it now, peacefully and orderly.
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Jack Fowler
You would think Victor leftists would like this. Didn't they love to support people that didn't wear masks? Or they.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Exactly. That's exactly. It's what my point is. And then they should say we are going to force enforce the law. There are 600 sanctuary city jurisdictions, whole states, cities, counties. You are breaking the law. You are denying the federal government's right to apprehend people who have broken U.S. immigration law or federal law. And you are holding them and in your jails or you arrest them and you will not allow us to deport them if that's what you want to do. And be a neo Confederate entity, whether you're trying to emulate South Carolina who said that they were not going to honor tariffs, they weren't going to enforce them, or you want to be 1859, when a lot of jurisdictions in the south on the edge of the Civil War said, you know what, these federal institutions within our jurisdictions have no power over us. And then they began to ignore them or even confiscate their properties. So we're not going to be neoconfederates. So we tell you, please honor federal law. And if you don't, we don't want to. We, we hate the idea of it. But we will cut off highway funds or whatever government assistance that you want. And then we need to tell the military again. There is a uniform code of military justice. We didn't write it. You did. You wrote it after the MacArthur period when Douglas MacArthur was insubordinate and he was a national icon and nobody did anything about it until Harry Truman fired. We don't want to do that. So you officers who are three and four star generals, you know that you can, you're not supposed to insult the commander in chief and call him Hitler and Mussolini and a liar and an insurrectionist and a architect of Auschwitz like cages on the border. I'm quoting verbatim. General Hayden. So please go back to the way you have treated Joe Biden and you've called me all sorts of names. General Kelly has called him a fascist and we hear that General Milley has been calling him a fascist. That's okay. When he's out of office. He's not out. He's not going to be out of office. And General Milley and General Kelly, as retired officers, if you continue to call him a fascist or a Nazi or whatever disparagement you do when he's the commander in chief and you are subject even as retired officers to the uniform, then you're going to have to be disciplined. And there's all kinds of gradations of discipline, and you know them better than anybody else. Why? Because in the case of, just as in the case of honoring federal law and on immigration, just in the case of honoring federal law on border enforcement, we want to enforce existing laws. The people want it. That's why they voted for FOP 36 in California, to stop looting. That's why they got rid of the Soros prosecutors. I think they voted out of office 12 of them. There's a yearning to honor the law. And as far as all of you people in the intelligence Committee, community associations, whatever they are, if you lie to the American people and it's just demonstrable, you lie and you go on television and you say the commander in chief is a Russian asset, as did James Clapper. Are you round up 51 intelligence authorities, many of them, contrary to what you said, were retired, had active contractor agreements, business with the CIA, and if the former interim director of the CIA helped organize these people for their sole purpose of telling a lie and trying to interfere and disrupt an election, when the FBI had the laptop in their possession and knew it was authentic and there was good knowledge circulating that you knew it was authentic and you deliver, we're going to take away your security clearance if you do that. If, if you go on television and violate. If you're a military officer and you're in the intelligent d, the Director of National Intelligence, you're a former military officer, I'm talking now about James Clapper. And you go on television and say your commander in chief is a Russian traitor asset, then you're going to lose your national security and, and just go across the board on everything. Don't try to say, well, when I go out and deport everybody. No, just say the laws have been broken in a multitude of fashion. And all we want to do is. We don't want to, we don't want to cause any extremism. We want to bring everybody to normality, moderation. That's what we're doing, restoration. So Trump should be saying, we are trying to have a restoration movement, a return to sanity, a return to legality. So please sanctuaries cities, officers who violate the Uniform Code of Military justice, people who knowingly, if you're in Homeland Security, broke your oath and did not enforce federal law for you. People who may or may not have colluded. Colluded with the Department of Justice. I'm talking about you, Fannie Willis. I'm talking about you, Alvin Bragg and Letitia James. We might have to find out what you were doing. Was this a conspiracy to go after a political candidate? We're not going to have retribution. We're not. We're going to restore law and just do it very quietly and method. Methodically and then don't even wag. I'm going to break in on that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You say we please do not break the law. Do not overwhelm local law enforcement. We do not want that to happen. But we are going to protect innocent civilians and property and the rule of law. And if that entails that local law enforcement needs federal help, we' reluctant to do that, but we might have to be forced to buy you and that's the way you should approach the whole thing.
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Jack Fowler
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Victor Davis Hansen
No, absolutely.
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Jack Fowler
Springfield, Ohio. I mean, I would, I would think there should be some focus on, on those.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I think some towns not too far from where I live are overrun. If you, if overrun means that facilities that are usually designed to accord to the health, education, legal housing, food needs of US Citizens have been so overrun that these citizens don't have an adequate, don't have adequate access to their own country's facilities. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. And there is one thing, though, that I think he needs to do, and that is of these, look, people talked about 21 million illegal aliens before the 12. So we have 33, 35 people like the Pew poll organization or various government agencies or universities, biased though they are, suggests that there might be 55 to 65 million people who were not born in the United States of varying statuses. So there's going to be at least 5 or 6 million people who are here illegally that have been here to 10 to 20 years. Their children may or may not be illegal, depending on how, what court cases. I mean, you can't do it retroactively, I suppose, but they were born on US Soil to parents who were here illegally. And I think one of the things the Trump administration is going to try to do is get a court ruling or some type of law to clarify the status of anchored children. There are no anchored children. I think in Europe, maybe two countries, it's one of the rarest phenomenon in the world. Here in the United States, contrary what the left says, that it's the natural order of things. It's not. But my point is this. If you are here for 10 or 15 years, if you are employed, if you are not on public assistance, if you haven't committed a crime, then I think that the US government should go after the first 20 million and leave that 10 million and then try to find some type of pathway for citizenship. Again, people who are undocumented, unlawful and let's be honest, illegal if they haven't committed a crime, if they're employed, if they're not on state assistance, then they should have a pathway not to citizenship but to get a green card. And I think because those are the least of our worries right now, the first 20 or million are the people that are problem, they just came here, are committing crimes or have not had a history of work. And I think there'll be broad public support for it. And these countries that deliberately, deliberately sent people and empty their jails are going to be shocked because they say we're going to take them back. The United States government has all sorts of ways to make a country comply with it, whether it's the banking system, declaring an organization a terrorist outfit. And for those who say that's too mean, what's mean is killing 100,000Americans with fentanyl across an open border. That's what's mean every year. What's mean is, is sending thousands of people to small communities so that their own citizens and residents do not have access to health care. That is mean. What is mean is allowing thousands of felons to come in here and murder, rape and terrorize people to the total indifference of the left. That is mean. So this is a return to normalcy. It's not abnormal, it's not a police state. And the degree to which Trump can successfully restore the border with a wall ending, catch and release refuge strategy status has to be applied in your home country. Depends on the public relation and optics. And he has to couch and locate the entire topic. And reluctantly following the law. I'm not a crusader that wants to round up everybody and send. I want to follow the law. In these past years, we have not been following the law and it's destroyed the integrity and the sanctity of our legal system and it's going to stop. And now I think he would get people 65% if it's couched that way. But I will issue a warning to everybody. You haven't seen the left. When you start deporting people, even with a criminal record, they're going to be on CNN weeping and crying, they're going to be on the Internet. No, this is like Hitler. So brace yourself.
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Jack Fowler
The Ford foundation will dump, yes, absolutely, millions into legal support for each and every.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And if you say that a sanctuary city is not going to get. If it insists and it will not get certain types of federal funds and people say, oh, my daughter was killed on the freeway because it wasn't fixed right, the same left wing mind that looks over here at high speed rail, this Stonehenge six miles from my house, $15 billion. Fifteen billion nothing. And there's the most dangerous freeway in the world parallel to it, the 99 in places, just two lanes in each direction. The major north south lateral in the entire state right down the middle of the state. And guess what? It hasn't changed since 1960. And yeah it is. And because why? Because money has been siphoned off from the highway funds and put in into this boondoggle. And no one said a word. That is criminal. That really is because thousands of people have been maimed and injured on this freeway in the last 15 to 20 years.
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Jack Fowler
Well, I have. Victor, I have one more deportation question to pose to you and that may have to be very provincial for me, has to do with the Bronx. And let me ask you about that when we return from these important messages.
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Jack Fowler
We're back with the Victor Davis Hansen show again. We are recording on Sunday, November 10th and this particular episode is up on the World Wide Webs on Tuesday the 12th. Victor, I totally get your proposal and the mindset and the temperament of it, but I do have one. Just throw this out here as a political angle on this. Let's take the Bronx and these locations where Trump's numbers went up dramatically. And I do think in part it's because the typical Democrat voter who's living in whatever neighborhood in the Bronx is seeing the neighborhood and the county and never mind the city being taken over by illegals housed in hotels, provided food, et cetera. They're setting up illegal businesses, including, you know, drug dealing, prostitution, etc. Is there maybe some test case obligation to say, you know, what to the. And to folks who have. We voted for you in part because we want you to clean this up. I don't know how polling, how clear that is in polling, but I think that's part of the reason Trump's numbers rose dramatically. Should there be some effort there to pick a city and say, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do this here, we're gonna try this here. What do you.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yeah, I think, I think they should pick San Francisco.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Okay.
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Victor Davis Hansen
My, my colleague at the uber institution, Neil Ferguson, wrote a really good article. He just said it's a disaster. And Kamala Harris represents. She was the city attorney, she was the county attorney. She was the attorney general of California. Gavin Newsom was the mayor of San Francisco. Lieutenant Governor Jerry Brown was the mayor of Oakland. And the governor on two separate occasions. 16 years. So they all. And Nancy Pelosi represented a prime San Francisco district. Her husband got fabulously wealthy, allegedly because he had good knowledge of federal contracts down the pipeline. And of course, she was speaker of the House. Barbara Boxer had a long, powerful career. She was a Bay Area person. And then let's not forget the late Dianne Feinstein, who was head of the Senate Judiciary Committee. And she was a San Francisco resident. So the reason that that city is destroyed is because of those Bay Area politicians. And the reason that they didn't do anything about it was they were all sitting next to a $9 trillion capitalized Silicon Valley. So they had money and they were all. Everybody I mentioned was wealthy or had contacts with wealthy people. And was the point I'm making. They were insulated from the consequences of their ideology and they destroyed that city with crime, filth, homelessness, you name it. Infrastructure collapse, deficits. They destroyed it. And that would be a wonderful place for the federal government to partner with the city and the state. They have a new. They have a new mayor. They got rid of the radical leftist London breed. They got rid of. They had gotten rid of earlier by Chelsea Bodine, the radical Soros prosecutor. So they have some good people there and they can start over from scratch. And what are they doing instead? Gavin Newsom says we might as well lead into that topic. He said yesterday that he is going to call a special session of the legislature to defend California values and he wrote a letter or a statement of consciousness and he had in it, Jack, that he's not going to allow the federal government to politicize the use of disaster aid money. He's just not going to do it. And what are we reading about right now under the Biden administration? That in hurricanes, disaster areas, that one of the regional directors of FEMA ordered people in writing to bypass. People that had what, pump signs out in front of their lawn? We don't know. That could have killed somebody. We don't know if people were inside, they were cold, they had no food, and she just said just bypass. Is that what Gavin's talking about? Why doesn't Gavin Newsom say, I'm not interested in the hypothetical, I'm interested in the real. So, President Trump, I want to partner with you on disaster relief and ensure you that California will not do what other left wing politicians do in the federal government. And I know you won't do that. That was a Biden administration operation. Alejandro Mayorkas, and we're not going to do that. But no, you know, he just demagogues instead. And you should read that entire agenda for a special session of the legislature and he says, we're going to protect California values. Could you, Jack, let's go through California values. Okay.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I'm doing this all without prep on the top of my head, but I've written so much of it, it's like imprinted on my brain. We have a 13.3 income tax, top rate. That is the highest in the nation.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
We have the highest gas taxes, more than Pennsylvania and the continental United States. If you look at the sales tax in most counties, it's up there at about fifth or sixth in the country. Yes. Prop 13 limits 1%, thank God, of your property tax assessment, but we have the highest assessments in the United States and we have local counties that override that 1%. So we're ranked about halfway up on property taxes. Now what do we get for that? What do we get for that? If you look at Transportation association rankings or places like Forbes, we rank somewhere around 45 to 50 in infrastructure in terms of the safety per miles driven of 101 of i5 and of the 99. These are our three north south laterals. And not one of them has a continuous six lane trajectory. Not one. They all go from six to four. Smash, crab, blah, explosion, and then back to six, then to four, then to six the whole way through California. We don't have east, west lateral. Yes. We have 80 in Northern California. Yes. You can Go around the Sierras. But it's almost impossible from mid November to mid march for 300 miles to get out of California on a road. Every time they've tried to make an all weather freeway they have been stopped. But we have this $15 billion boondoggle. We used to be among the top. Top 10 in eighth grade and high school test scores. We're in the bottom 10%. Bottom 10%. We spend almost. We're about number three in per capita student spending and yet we're at the very bottom of test scores. We have the most homeless people of any other state. 1/4 of the population. 1/4 of the California population are illegal aliens. Illegal. We have 22% of the population under the poverty. We also have the greatest number of billionaires and the most zip codes out of the top 10 in terms of per capita income. The rich in other words. So we are a medieval society. One out of every three people in public assistance lives in California. I could go on but here you diabetics.
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Jack Fowler
Yes. The health of the 1/4.
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Victor Davis Hansen
1/4. 1/4 of all people admitted to a hospital for any reason are found to be pre diabetic or actually suffering from diabetes. We have a epidemic of obesity in California. Nobody talks about. We all talk about hunger. That's not what's killing California Union.
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Jack Fowler
It's obesity, lack of water. We have bureaucrat fueled fires.
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Victor Davis Hansen
We had. We've had some of the worst fires. Destroyed 60 million trees. And we said to ourselves during the Jerry Brown and Newsom administration we don't want timber. They cut trees down. Now we want wood for our homes but we'll import it from some other illiberal state. But you know we're not going to clean the forest up either because you know, grubs and worms and bugs they kind of like trees that fall down and brush on the floor. The old days, those old guys in the 1950s, those old white guys, you know they had this thing called conservation and they would go in and clean the forest up. Then they'd work hand in glove with the timber industries and they would just go through and paint a little tree here and there and then clean the forest out. And we didn't have for that was the wrong way. Forest fires are good. The problem that's bad people live in the foothills so we're going to make it very hard for power companies to serve them. And if there's fires, well can't quite get up there, can we?
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Jack Fowler
Haha.
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Victor Davis Hansen
That's their attitude about it. You can't really buy insurance from a private carrier anymore in the foothills or the Sierra Nevada mountains of California, trust me, you can't do it. And if you want to get the fair plan, that's called the California unfair plan, you will pay triple the premium what you used to do. You will get about 60% of the coverage and you will have about 10 times the deductible. It's a deliberate policy to get people out of the foothills and get them into high rises. So this is a dysfunctional state. And I'm not even getting into the looting and the feces and the syringes on our streets or what looks like, like the moonscape that is downtown San Francisco and Los Angeles. So this is the, this is the situation that Gavin helped create. He inherited it. He amplified it, along with Jerry Brown, along with Dianne Feinstein, Barbara Boxer, Camila Harris, Nancy Pelosi and our judiciary. So my point is this, this is a mess. And he's saying to Donald Trump, if you, heck, if you try to tamper with my mess and the destruction that we did, if you come into our medieval world where there's no middle class, 245,000 people leaving per year, and a population that's actually declining, if you try to break up that beautiful experiment, we're going to fight you with every bone in our body. I don't think that's going to go well. This election. Nine counties flipped from majority Biden voting in 2020 to 2020 24. Trump voting nine. And by the way, we haven't even got Jack. We're 62%. Ten days later, 62% of the vote has been counted in most, most precincts. 62%. And so everything about this state, and the funny thing about it is they inherited two things. They inherited God's beautiful country, the most scenic, beautiful, naturally rich state in the union. It had everything. It had the most. It had the port of Los Angeles. It had the best port in the world, San Francisco Bay. It had a snowpack next to one of the most fertile areas in the world, the great Central Valley with natural snowmelt and irrigation water. It had, in addition to that, a beautiful climate. It had some of the most brilliant people in the world. In the 1920s, 30s, 40s and 50s, they created the interstate highway system, intrastate highways. They can created the cloverleaf Los Angeles International Airport. SFO were models. They were written up as the eye with the airports of the future. They had the best university system in the world, the tripartite junior colleges, CSU campuses, UC campuses. They had the California Water Project and the Central Valley Project, they were the most innovative water projects in the world. And the pen stocks that go from south of Bakersfield over the Grapevine into Pyramid Lake and on into the Calif. Los Angeles Water District street, they are the still the highest lift of any pen stocks in the in the world. Everything was here and it wasn't just Ronald Reagan. It was Edmund P. Edmund Brown, Jerry's dad. There were Democrats, but those Democrats were conservative, right? And so what I so I get very angry when I hear lectures to Donald Trump from Gavin Newsom. Don't tamper with our values.
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Jack Fowler
Well, I have a question about noosom. What's going on in his mind here, Victor but let me just first say a word, put in a good word for our friends@besthotgrill.com Football is back. So is tailgating. Whether it's Friday night, light Saturday, college or pro Sunday, Solaire Tailgate Infrared grills set up fast and heat up quickly. Only three minutes to searing hot temperatures. Just like the big backyard Solaires. A Solaire grill will make you the master of the tailgater with the juiciest, most flavorful food in the parking lot. And the fast grilling times leave you more time to enjoy the pre game festivities. They also cool down fast so you won't miss a minute of the game. The USA made Solaire anywhere, everywhere and all about Infrared grills are portable and perfect for any grilling on the go. From picnics to camping RVs to boating, but especially tailgating. Amaze your tailgating friends with the great food you grill with your Solaire Infrared grill. Learn more about these fantastic grills and Solaire's Try before you buy Demo rental program at best hot grill.com that's best hot grill.com best hot grill.com and we thank the good people from Solaire for sponsoring the Victor Davis Hansen show. Victor, I don't know. Is Newsom a complete political boob? Whereas the country. And as you just said, you know, so many of the California counties are flipped, have flipped. And he's trying to become the even greater patron saint of leftism.
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Victor Davis Hansen
No, no, no, no.
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Jack Fowler
2028.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I watched, I watched him my entire life. You know what he does? He puts, he, he, he has an animal cunning. Not, not like Trump's, not nearly as broad and deep. But he does have a cunning. And what he does is he surveys the left liberal landscape and he finds out where 51% of public opinion is. 51%. And then he tries to go two or three points beyond that. So he's been in California and He understands that 60, it's here. 60 or 70% of the people were hard left, utopian left. They had, but they had so much money with Silicon Valley and the natural wealth of the state, they could afford to be nihilistic and suicidal. Now it's caught. And he led that charge. He was the one that said during COVID I'm giving half a billion dollars to illegal aliens. He's the one that said if you get out of the quarantine, I'm going to outdo other countries in the quarantine. This at the time, Nancy Pelosi was secretly sneaking around getting her hair done and he was at the French Laundry with health lobbyists yucking it up without a mask on. But anyway, he knows where the, the, the centrifal forces are of a political movement. Then he tries to be a little bit ahead and now he's confused because he looks at Prop 36, which he supported, which says we're going to stop this nonsense. If you steal something that is not taken, if you take things that aren't yours, if you loot, you're going to be prosecuted. There is no more $950 exemption that passed by 70%. Camilla one of the things that destroyed Kamala Harris, I can't even count all of them. But right on the eve, I think it was the Sunday before the election, she said, have you voted? Yes, I've voted. Did what did you vote on 36? Well, I can't tell you. I don't want to tell my vote. We haven't counted them yet. Now on abortion and anything else, I'll tell you whatever you want, but not on 36. Basically what she was saying, I voted to ensure people could keep looting and so did he. So now he's confused because he woke up and he looked at this Trump landslide. He looked at this map of California that has, it was bright blue and it had little ribbons of red along the Sierra in the Central Valley. Now it's got red hodgepodge all over it. And he's worried because his constituencies that he's pandered to the Latino community, which is almost half the population is split down the middle. There are the people who are here illegally and they're the people who are here as citizens, multi generational and they feel the people who came in illegally and they're not all from Mexico, they're from Venezuela, they're from Honduras, they're from Guatemala, they're from Chile, they're all China Africa. They feel that these people didn't do what they did. They came legally or they found legality. So Newsom doesn't know what to do now, but he still thinks that to get elected or to get nominated or to be successful in California and in 2028 in the Democratic Party, he cannot leave its lunatic base. So what he does is he's a schizophrenic. He says to the lunatic base, just like Kamala Harris did, we're not, you know, we're not going to allow fracking. Reparations are good. And then he says to Donald Trump, I just don't want to, you know, put a stick in the spokes of your wheel. I'm not going to do that. And he tries to act as if he's reasonable, but the. So the answer is he has no ideology, which is kind of good compared to the hard leftist. He just reacts. But the problem also is he thinks he's always on the vanguard, but he's not. Not, he's not. He doesn't understand that there is a wide spread revulsion toward the left multifaceted. And he's, he's kind of worried right now. He doesn't know how he can capture that, that revulsion or that pushback and yet keep the base where, who the base is. What gives him his money, all of these San Francisco generational wealth and the Silicon Valley grandees, they give him all the money, money. So he doesn't know what to do. And that's why he sounds so schizophrenic. That's why one day he'll put on his aberrant combi and get vest and he'll go down to that mess in LA at the train depot and he'll, he'll, he'll go out and pick up trash for an hour. That's why after his policies ensure devastating, devastating, lethal forest fires, he'll go up there and walk around with a rake and kind of rake up some coals. But yeah, he thinks he's going to be present. And he's slick. He has always, when he speaks, he has about, I don't know, eight or nine minutes. He's kind of like a security camera that has a memory bank. And then when it's out, it just doesn't function well. After about eight or nine minutes, he has nothing to say. So he had that hair and the tortoise debate with Ron DeSantis, right? You know, he looked so slick. He looked dynamic. He was good looking looking. He clobbered Desantis with All these little eyes. Oh, you know, that's more people are leaving Florida and coming to California than by first complete lie. But he did that. And then after his 10 minutes for the next hour, Desantis, you have the highest taxes in the United States. You have the worst infrastructure, you have the largest number of poor people. You have the largest number of just, just totally destroyed him. Then he looked around like hey, what do I do now? And so we'll see. That's what he's trying to do. He's walking in tight wire. I, I've got to get right where the Californians are and I see that they're pushback. So I'm going to mouth now, mouth off a little bit about the need to change and you know, go to the center. But I'm not going to ever offend that base yet. I don't I got to know where the money is. Is Peter Till is, you know, David Sachs. Are these guys, Elon Musk, are these guys willing to work with a guy like me? Are they the majority of capital, the David Horowitz Andreessen's are they the more the money guys are they really conservative? And how, how do they stack up against Mark Zuckerberg and you know, the Google people and Reid Hoffman and all I got to find out where the money is is. So he does that. He tries to find out where the money is, where the political power is, where everything is.
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Jack Fowler
Well, he seems, I agree, walking a tight rope. I believe you totally. Victor, your analysis. I just want our listeners to know they can go find the proclamation he issued which calls for the special session that will take place on December 2nd. And the things he cites, he's still like re fighting the election that migrants.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Migrants, yeah.
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Jack Fowler
Repealing DACA is bad. Continuing assault on reproductive freedom, undoing clean vehicle policies as you mentioned before, withholding disaster relief based on political retribution and then politicizing grant programs. So these are the motivating factors for him to call the special section.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Well, he's very paranoid right now because was he went to this wind and solar and he wared on fossil fuel production of electric generation and he warred on nuclear we. And he's wor. He just blew up three dams. Wasn't a lot, but it was about 80 or 90,000 homes had clean hydroelectric power. And then he went out and said everybody's got to buy Teslas. And not Teslas anymore but EV vehicles and incentives. And now we. And we're spending these money losing, spending vast sums on money, losing inefficient solar and wind. And we're producing more electricity than we need during the day and we have not enough at night. And he's. And then he drove out most of the refiners. We only have two or three refining companies left. And then he said, well, the price of gas is going up. They're hoarding, they're manipulating that, just like Camilla said about food price. So now he's passed legislation that said that they have to keep on hand an enormous amount of gasoline. You know, so that's a lot of infrastructure that they have to invest in and then start refining around the clock. And there's not very many of them and they're going to be watched carefully by all these consumer and state watch group. He's basically saying, I drove you all out because I hate gasoline and we're trying to eliminate it, but I got a problem because we consume more gasoline per day than any other state by far. So therefore I need you people to do it. So when the prices go up because we have too many vehicles that are demanding too few supplies of gas and we put all this clean stuff mandates on the gasoline composition and mixtures, we have the highest price of gas in the world and we have the largest number not in the world, but in the United States, and we have the highest number of poor people than any other state. So what am I going to do? And I know what I'll do. I'll make these remaining refineries store gas so there won't be shortages, no panics. Well, the very fact that these companies probably will not want to do that or there's uncertainty, the price of gas has already gone up, as I said, on a pod, I think it was with Sammy. I paid $5.83. Right. Last week. And yeah, in Palo Alto. And I was in Malibu two weeks earlier teaching at Pepperdine, and it was 575, 575 a gallon. It's going to get up over on the coastal elite areas. It's going to go over six, it's going to be five here, 550. It was about 479 yesterday in South. So it's. He's got a problem. He's going to get gas up to six or seven dollars here and it's not going to be shared nationwide. And people are going to look at this state and Donald Trump's going to remind him of this state. And the other thing he doesn't understand is if he keeps warring on the Trump administration and screaming and yelling about them, Donald Trump doesn't Have to get angry and yell back or anything. He just has to shrug his shoulders and say, well, couldn't help you. You've got too many sanctuary cities. Your whole state's a sanctuary state. I'm just going to have to slow walk your federal money until you follow the law. You're breaking the law. This is not the Civil War. You are not the Confederate States of America. You can't violate federal law. So I don't think he's going to be in a good position, but it all depends on the tone of Trump and the people around him. So when Mike Davis was a good, you know, he's been a sharp lawyer, but he says he's going to go after Latita James. Fat ass, I think he said.
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Jack Fowler
I mean, it was funny kind of.
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Victor Davis Hansen
But yeah, it was. And he was replying.
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Jack Fowler
He said, listen here, sweetheart, we're not messing around this time. We will put your fat ass in prison for conspiracy against rights.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Well, all, all he had to say say she started it because she bragged. But all he had to do was if he wanted to make a statement, he just said, attorney General James, like other Attorney generals and federal prosecutors and local prosecutors cannot collude with each other to create laws that they have not applied to other people, all for the purpose of going after one person. So we are going to investigate. And if we find out there were communications or there were synchronizations, oh, I don't know, like Nathan Wade going to the White House and talking to Joe Biden's counsel the same day that Joe Biden's Attorney General appointed Jack Smith, the same day that Mr. Coangelo left the, the Department of Justice to go to work for Alvin Bragg. If we find that that was synchronized in, in a way to target an individual who otherwise wouldn't have been targeted.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Maybe, maybe we would reluctantly have to look at it. That's all he has to say. They have to stop the braggadocio and be methodical. Methodical, soft spoken and tough. And that's.
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Jack Fowler
Trump was right. Success is the best payback.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Exactly. He's right about that. He's right about that.
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Jack Fowler
Temperament temperamen has a role in success.
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Victor Davis Hansen
So. And he, he can, he's got to be very careful abroad, though, Jack, because you saw everybody is kind of ecstatic about how the world and the America. It confirms your cynicism about human nature. All of a sudden the Houthis say, you know what, we're done with the Red Sea. I don't know what happened. We just woke up this morning, after the election, there's nothing, there's no coincidence. And we decided.
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Jack Fowler
Changed my mind. Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And Hamas. You know, I think I, I guess the war is kind of over. Let's just stop. And then Iran said, we have no problem with the United States. And then Russia said, well, I'd be willing to talk to Don. That's what Putin said. And then the crypto market said, ah, this is pretty good. And so did the stock market. And then all of a sudden the Europeans said, hmm, we might as well buy American liquefied natural gas. It's. That's our friend.
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Jack Fowler
So didn't Mexico stop us? Yes, yes.
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Victor Davis Hansen
They turned around a caravan and Donald Trump said, we will tear a few. He has so much leverage over Mexico. That was what's tragic about the incompetence and the conspiratorial nature of the Biden administration. He was humiliated by Obrador. Humiliated. And they wanted to be humiliated. They just, they could have stopped that in two seconds. All he has to do is finish the wal now, just go. As soon as he gets in there, just build it like crazy. And then he's got to just get rid of an executive order, catch and release another second executive order. You, if you're a refugee, you're not going to apply here. After you broke our law and came in, you apply back home. And then he has to, he just simply has to tell Mexico, if you allow people to come through your country and swarm our border, we've got some very good things we're going to do. Number one, we're going to declare every one of your cartels, Sonola, all of them, a terrorist organization. Number two, we are going to tax all the 60 billion you get from expatriates in the United States and we're going to tax it high 20%. And that'll be about 12 billion. And I will pay for the wall with that 12 billion billion. I'll keep my promise that people suggested I had not. And then we're going to put a tariff on. And all you have to do is patrol your side of the border and don't let anybody in and help us stop the hundred thousand deaths in our country. When your country houses, encourages, turns away, sometimes ignores whatever verb you need. The Chinese who are sending vast amounts of raw fentanyl, so your people are packaging it into seven receptive mannerisms and to look like candy, look like prescription, look like over the counter drugs, and then you're sending it with the full knowledge it kills a hundred thousand people. We're not going to allow that to happen anymore. And that would be something that would be good for Mexico. It would be good for Mexico. And another thing he's going to say is, you know, you've got a lot of felons you deliberately sent here, so there must be that 350,000 violent felons. There's probably 200 from Mexico. 200,000. They're going to go back. And how they go back and under what conditions they go back will depend on your behavior. And he really needs to tell them that. And then when, you know, when Obrador and the new one shine bomb, they get that revolutionary communism. You don't temper an internal affairs. I'm like, oh, and you know, we are long history with gringo imperial. You just say, you know, whatever, whatever. That's very interesting. Yeah, whatever. We heard it in the 1960s. I don't want to hear any more mythology about the mythical state of A and all that stuff. Your people want to come here. And the only people in our country that want to go there are rich people to build mansions on your hilltops and your beaches. Otherwise nobody wants to go to Mexico. Your own people want to come here. End of story. As long as that's true, we're not going to listen to any more of your 60s boilerplate. And he needs to tell people that. And he, he has so many people that support that now. And they want the American people. I think they don't understand what this election really was about. It's. It's a yearning for people who are saying, you know, I'm not right wing, I'm not extremist. I just want to follow the law. I want the laws to be enforced. I want a normal, normal environment. I don't want to get a memo from my boss that says they there's he. I don't want to get that under the name. I don't want to have to produce that craziness.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I. I don't mind people who have sexual ambiguity. If that's what they want to do, go ahead and do it. But I don't want my daughter going to. In the shower with somebody with hair curlers and makeup and fake eyelashes and testicles and a phallus. I just don't. Not. Not my pre teen daughter. I'm sorry, it's not going to happen.
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Jack Fowler
So normal is the enemy of woke. I mean, yeah, so rest if he keeps to the.
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Victor Davis Hansen
That, that kind of. I don't want a culture war. I don't want it. I just want to go back to normal. We are going back to normal. And if you don't want normal and you break the law to enforce the abnormal, then we're going to have a problem and you're going to start it, not me. So I think that's, that's the message that they should have. That's what I agree.
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Jack Fowler
And it's a powerful message and it as clearly is resonating.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I don't think the Democratic Party understands, Jack, that they are on the precipice of being utterly destroyed. They're like the 19th century wig party, right? They're just about ready to go out of business.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we thankfully, you know, we're going to record another podcast after that. We have some ample fodder for you to comment on about the just not getting it aspect of the, of the intellectual leadership and I think the political leadership of the party also. But Victor, we have to have one, we have to, we have to have one more little break here. And when we come back from that, we have to talk about another thing that's, that's sadly normal and that's the persecution of, of Jews in Europe. And we'll get to that. Get your commentary on that, Victor, when we come back from these final important messages.
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Jack Fowler
He came by my school for career day and said he was a big roas man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laugh at me to this day.
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Jack Fowler
We'Re back with the Victor Davis Hansen Show. I do want to let folks know when we began today's podcast, Victor was talking about the US Military leaders and there is a piece. It's, I think it would be pronounced D News but D N Y U Z is a website and it has an article, US Military leaders strategize on how to respond to orders from Trump. And here's a quote. You know, we are all preparing and planning for the worst case scenario, but the reality is we don't know how it's going to play out yet. This has to do with if the military was asked to participate or have some role in deportation. So this is, you know, if you're, if you're interested in, you know, seeing what Victor was referencing, go to that Dnyuz website and it's a piece dated from the 9th of November, Victor. And this is, you know, it's not, we're getting to it at the end. Like there's some prioritization of topics we talk here because this certainly is of the things we're talking about today. I think this is as serious, if not more serious. And I'm sure listeners have heard about what happened in Amsterdam the other day where fans from Israel went to see a game in Amsterdam, where Tel Aviv, a Tel Aviv soccer team was playing a local team and there was a Jew hunt that went on. This was, this was strategized. This was planned. This was using Uber drivers. I'm not, not knocking Uber, but I'm using that as a, you know, kind of a stand in. But this was a very calculated event. Event's the wrong word. And torturing and brutalizing Jewish fans to make them say, you know, beating them bloody till they say free Palestine, etc. The local police were slow to respond. And it's a surprise, surprise. Yeah. Your thoughts on this, Victor, about that?
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Victor Davis Hansen
It's going to continue because there's no deterrence because people from the Middle east that migrate or reside in these Western European countries put their finger up in the air and they think, you know what? These people are 50, 50 on Israel, if that. And we, I have no fear of them or respect for them. So if I break their laws and go after Jews, they'll either do what the Germans did in the 19th German citizens did in the 1930s and say, well, it's kind of extreme, but I don't really matter because I'm not a big fan of the Jews. That's what the Dutch maybe be thinking, or the military or the law enforcement. They're afraid of this radical group, kind of like the German military and the German police forces and law enforcement were afraid of the brown shirts and then the black shirts and then the Nazis. So that's what we have. It's a larger. This kind of goes back, though. To the. What we were just talking. What people are tied. Tired of. They're tired of the hypocrisy and the irony and the paradoxes. If people come from Iraq or the west bank or Syria or Egypt or Jordan or the Gulf and they migrate out because of those failed societies or they feel those failed societies have no freedom, they have no tolerance, they have no middle class, so they go on to go to Europe. And if they want to go to Europe to get a better life, okay. But if they're, if they're going to go to Europe, then they're going to have to follow the rules. And their rules are that you have to, you know, you can't have a clitory on your daughter when she's 13 years old. You can't have an arranged marriage. Sharia law does not apply. It doesn't override Belgian or Dutch law. And you have to follow. Follow the law. You can't just take the law in your own hands. And you don't go after various particular groups. And if you don't like that and you want. And you want to import your culture, then go back home. There's no problem. But don't do both. Don't do both. Don't come over here and want our prosperity and our security and our Western system of success and then prey on it or absorb it and then keep your characteristics or your habits that lead to what you have left. So do you understand when you're an Uber driver and you chase people and make them go into canals, that that's a very behavior that explains why Libya is a hellhole or Syria's a hell hole, or Iraq's a hellhole. That's why it is. That's why you left. So why would you want to create hell in heaven? We're not going to let you do that. All you have to do is articulate that. But no politician, Gert Wilder is the only, only one that will articulate that. But once you tell, and that applies to here in the United States, we have about 200,000 students from the Middle east. Plus, all you have to do is saying, you know what? You're welcome to come over here. You're welcome to get an education. You're even welcome to apply for a green card if you want to stay. However, you have to follow our protocols. And one of our protocols is you don't chase Jews into a library and threaten to kill them. And you don't write stuff on colonnades about praising terrorist killers or you don't chant in front of Everybody that you want the Jews dead. That's all you got to do. And you don't break the university's rules. Just do that. But if you, if you come over here and you do all that and you want to implant the values and the protocols of Gaza or Hamas or Hezbollah here, then we, we just reluctantly, we don't want to do it. We're so sad. But you have to go home. Go home and think about it and then try it again sometime legally. But right now, you break the rules, you go home. And that would be a powerful deterrent. And Trump is. That's one of the, that one attitude and law in itself would stop all of the campus, because people who were out destroying campuses and harassing Jews in class, if they knew, if they broke the law and if they were found guilty of breaking the law, and if they were reported to ICE that their student visas were no longer valid, then the people around them who are citizens, who join in and egg them on or in turn are egged on by them, would say, oh, I better not do that. I'm going to get my friend deported.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And it would make a big difference. It really would. I, I'm not talking about issues and truth and justice. How can you be that way? Don't they know the history of anti Semitism? Don't they know what happened in Italy? No, I don't. They don't care about that. You know, and then the other problem is these historical ignorant people, this Jennifer Rubin character from the Washington Post tweeted out that we have Hitler in America. 19. We're 1933 with Hitler, I. E. Trump is an American.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And she tweets that out right during these pom groms in Holland. You'd think, no, you, if you were worried about Hitler, you better go over to the Netherlands and stop it. Yeah, but have you, have you seen Donald Trump do that? This is the person who is one of the most popular presidents in history in Israel. 65% of the Israelis poll that they like. They don't. Do you really think that in 1935, Jennifer, that the population, the Jewish population of Germany said that 65 to 70% approved of Hitler? I don't think so. I don't think so. So, Victor.
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Jack Fowler
I just want to add, this does not necessarily have to do with anti Semitism, but you mention all the idiocy on campuses, and I think you might have talked about it with the great Sammy Wink the day after election. Campuses having to take no classes at Columbia, few other places, Georgetown. And I was Just curious. I went on Georgetown's website and I googled war memorials and There were about 170 Georgetown alum alumni I who died in action in World War II. And there's a memorial to them and similar memorial for alumni from World War I. And you just think of the caliber of the mindset of what it meant to be a student to at the time leave to go put yourself in harm's way to fight for something and pardon the technical term, the candy asses. On campuses today. On many campuses. Campuses. There are many good campuses.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Jack, are you trying to suggest. Jack.
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Jack Fowler
Sorry, Victor, go ahead.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Are you, Are you, are you trying to suggest to our distinguished listeners.
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Jack Fowler
Yes.
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Victor Davis Hansen
That someone, 1952 who was at Harvard and was drafted to go to Korea and fought at Chosan Reservoir, or someone at Stanford who was drafted or volunteered to go to KS on 1968. They have the moral integrity, the courage of the people who after the election identified themselves for milk, cookies and Lego relief sessions on our major campuses. They were given puppies to pet, chocolate chip cookies and Lego and Tinker Tor boys. And you're suggesting those sophisticated bright people are somehow not up to snuff of these warmonging people who went out and fought.
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Jack Fowler
I apologize.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Okay, okay, I'll get it done.
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Jack Fowler
Scap.
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Victor Davis Hansen
I didn't see any of that at Stanford. I didn't. I didn't see the milk and cookies tables, but maybe they were there and I missed them. But gosh, what a group. What a generation. And you know, it's all. No, nobody ever writes this, do they? When Trump lost, Jack, do you know, I know that there was guys that got angry, Stop the steal. But on the campuses, was there any conservative people said, I need to have milk and cookies? I don't think so. I don't think so.
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Jack Fowler
Hillsdale shut down for a week. No, it did not happen.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yeah, you're talking about a particular. This came up when I was a professor at Cal State and we had a strike, right. I didn't participate in it, but the students were came to class and one of them said, this isn't fair. I get punished when I don't go to class. I said, yeah. And so he sat down. I said, I'll tell you what, you tell me how much you paid. Because they all had different sliding scales for tuition. You know, they had student assistance and scholarships, but how much money are you out of pocket? And then you're taking my class for three units. They had to take, say take 15 units, five of these. Sometimes they took 12. There were four, four unit. They took three four unit or four, four. Anyway, anywhere from 12 to 16 units. They figured it out. And it was at, at cheapo Cal State, it was still about 300 bucks a class. Right? I'm sure at these places if you do the math, it's, it's 2 or 3,000. And the guy said, where's my refund? And I said, well, you don't understand professors. We are a protected class. So if you go, you're a secretary or you work at McDonald's and you just say that you're not going to show up for class for work, you're going to be fired because you don't have a PhD and you're not a moral and intellectual giant like we are. So we can just arbitrarily say, you know what, once we're not going to teach speech. Maybe it's a moral question. We're so upset about the election and we're so traumatized. We're not going to show up to work. We're just going to stay home and play video games or something. And for you students who paid us $1,000 an hour for the class, screw you. Ha. That's their attitude. Yeah. Every, every student should prorate the cost of one hour instruction. See how many hours of instruction they lost because these professors didn't show up. And Sen. Send the university a bill. Yeah.
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Jack Fowler
And well, Victor, as we head to the home stretch here, I do want to mention one other thing related to the anti Semitism that's going on so many places. There was also a news story came out yesterday that the IDF found a cache of videotaped torture sessions of Hamas torturing Palestinians. I think it's from 2019 in typical like tie them to the hands to the ceiling, legs spread out, whipping, etc. So when our campus protesters are screaming from the, you know.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yes. Well, you gotta remember that they, you gotta remember something about the mind of the leftist protester on any of these wars or struggles between west and non west or Westernized and non Westernized. Their attitude is very racist, condescending, chauvinist. It's. And they don't. They would be shocked to hear that. But they basically start out with this assumption that I am a sophisticated intellectual and moral person. Widely read, deeply contemplative, and I live in, you know, I live in Atherton, I live in Woodside, I live in Cambridge, I live in Malibu. And I am around similar people. And I, I'm just an exalted soul and intellect. And so I will criticize Israel if they violate human rights. But these people, well, they get a pass because. And officially say they get a pass because they're victims, they're victims of imperialism and colonialism. But privately they get a pass because they're just, they're just savages. They're noble savages. That's how I look at them. That's how the left looks at it. They really do. So they never hold up Hamas to the same standards they do the idf. So if you want to go to torture people or kill them or do terrible things like in Iraq, lower the sex AIDS, what to 9 the age of consent. 9 years old is what the. That was our example and I support it shamelessly. So I looked back at it. But the idea we were going to go in there and spend a trillion and a half dollars and make everybody in Iraq a, you know, a Democrat from Kalorama or something, it didn't work. And the point I'm making is that when that, that same society low lowers the permissible age of sexual intercourse to have it be perfectly legal to have intercourse with a nine year old preteen, that's pretty sick. But we don't criticize that. We would. We do not criticize that because we don't expect much and we don't expect much of the Hamas terrorists. But they have to do that. That's fine. We don't say we don't expect much, but that's what our thinking is. And we, it's either because we so hate ourselves. Right. Wacophobia. Or we are basically left wing as a psychological mechanism to hide our deep racism and cultural prejudice and bias. In other words, we so despise the people on the west bank in Gaza that we have developed a very sophisticated anti Western mindset. It doesn't affect our perspective life. Of course we're very materially opulent. We do whatever we want. But in the abstract and we virtue signal and we performance art are caring for the poor people of a mosque now if they're tortured, that's what they do. Of course they do. They're not us.
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Jack Fowler
And we have same mindsets applicable to Chicago and they same thing.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Same thing with the wealthy white liberals. Oh, 21 were killed in Chicago this weekend. That's not too bad. It can be higher. Oh well, those are just poor black inner, you know, inner city. They kind of do that stuff and I, you know, I can't do anything about it. I don't live there. I don't want to hang out with these people. But I do vote for Kamala Harris and she's half black. And I do vote for Great Society vestigial ossified programs even though if they make it worse, I don't care. I just want to be by. I want to say this Jack, because it'll fin you but I do my middle evil indulgence and penance sign a contract and that's what they do. They don't buy one stone on the dome of St. Peter's but they do buy a abstract absolution. Yeah, by being so left wing then they don't have to deal with the. The concrete pathology and try to help people.
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Jack Fowler
I have. I have actually bought bricks at a monastery that's being built. So I'm hoping it keeps me gets me into purgatory. Victor hey, we've come, we've come to the end here. Almost the end. We have to note two things. One, actually three things. One, Victor's website, the Blade of Perseus and the web address is Victor Hansen.com you should go there regularly. Victor's articles that he writes for American Greatness and a syndicated column. Find them there. Archives of this podcast. Victor's other appearances. For example Uncommon Knowledge, the great Hoover video series that Peter Robinson runs is a terrific show with Victor and Neil Ferguson and Andrew Roberts talking about history, World War II. Check that out. You'll find a link to it on the website. Victor's books and Ultra articles Ultra are the two or two or three times a week that Victor writes articles exclusively for the Blade of Perseus. To read them you have to subscribe. 5 bucks a month, $50 discounted for the year. So check that out. I want to thank the folks who have signed up for Civil Thoughts. They go to civilthoughts.com just sign up. Simple, easy. What are you going to get every Friday in your inbox? An email from ME which has 14 recommended readings of great pieces I've come across across the previous week. I think you'll enjoy it. Not selling your name, it's totally non transactional. Simplets.com Ben many people rate this show on various platforms including Apple. Victor's 4.9 plus percentage of thousands of people who have rated the show zero to five stars. Some people leave comments and they also leave comments on Victor's website at some of the articles. The piece the other day has, you know, over 50 comments on it. So we're going to read one from your website today. Victor and this is from Virginia SOM and she writes thank you Dr. Hansen. For the past four years I pretty Much tuned out the mainstream media and relied on your thoughtful commentary. There seem to be a very few journalists who are original thinkers and writers and who are not regurgitating Democrat propaganda. Thank you, Virginia, for that. Thanks everyone else who leaves comments. We read them all. And Victor, thanks to you. You were terrific today.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Can I just add, could I add one last thing? I was thinking of show you do whatever you want as we leave today. Have you watched this? We talked about it earlier, but it kind of gained momentum. Jack, since I've talked to you last about the Lissa Lissa strata sex strike that.
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Jack Fowler
Oh, blue hair and the blue.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yes.
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Jack Fowler
Now.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yeah, they're wearing them or whatever. So if you're a white woman who are under suspicion because 51% white women apparently voted for Trump, you wear a blue bracelet to show that you were not one of the bad women.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
But you're also on a sex strike. But my point is this. If you were going to publicize your sex strike and you were going to get members of the striking women who were going to not have sex with men, there's two things I, I think I from my 30 years on campus and when I visit big cities and I see this single, unattached, childless woman anywhere, what would she look like?
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Jack Fowler
Victor?
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Victor Davis Hansen
Well, my point is this. They don't have sex with guys that look normal. Right. They, they, they.
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Jack Fowler
Unless you're into nose rings and nose.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Rings, antifa arms and everything. Everything. So, and then why wouldn't. So first of all, the only people they're going to hurt are their, their own little people who look like them.
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Jack Fowler
Right.
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Victor Davis Hansen
But my point is these Democratic politicals are very sophisticated. They run slick ads. She can't, Camilla couldn't sneeze before. They got childhood actors, whether she was vice president, they got those kids to act out the space discussion or when she wanted to buy Doritos, they had to do several takes. Why would they, why would these left wing women go on the Internet or TV and be so unattractive? I mean it was like a person with a very jar. Wow, you know, I am not going to have sex sex with those people. They're just going to be depressed tribe. And you think promises, promises. Put it in writing. Promise. But why wouldn't they get like the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders or something? You know what I mean?
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Victor Davis Hansen
And then show some guy that was like a decathlon and say look guy, she's not going to look at you. That would be a convincing message. But when somebody is repellent and then they say they're they're, they, they're going to promise to repel you.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Well, this gets back to normal because. Right. They're abnormal. And the same thing with the guy. For Harris, they were.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Exactly. I mean, you don't pajama dudes. You don't. Yeah. I go back to the pajama boy ad where the guy had coffee and he had little putsies in his pajamas. Remember that? I think he had coco with cocoa. Yeah. I, I, I, I love marshmallows in it. I wrote a whole column about that. That or, you know, it's. The point I'm making is they're so slick and artificial and they have Hollywood in their pocket. Couldn't they have gotten, gotten some beautiful left wing women who didn't have that voice and that lecture manner and just say, you know, I like sex and then have kind of look sexy and. But I just going to pass until you men. And then they show a guy it's like six, four, you know, built, you know, until he gets wise. That would have been conv. Dancing. But yeah, otherwise it was like everybody thought, oh my God, this is kind of good.
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Jack Fowler
I'm gonna clap. And I don't.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we'll end on that. We'll end.
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Jack Fowler
All right. You've been terrific, Victor. Thanks for everything, folks. Thanks for listening. Hey, we're gonna be back soon with another episode of the Victor Davis Hansen Show.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Bye.
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Jack Fowler
Bye.
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Victor Davis Hansen
Thank.