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The Victor Davis Hanson Show
Trump Fixing It and World-Class Criminals Championed by the Left
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Jack Fowler
Hello, ladies. Hello, gentlemen. This is the Victor Davis Hansen Show. I'm Jack Fowler, the host. You're here to listen to the star and namesake, the happy man. If you're looking at this on YouTube, the very happy, well rested man. Okay, after we're finished, Victor, take a pill. Victor Davis Hansen, who is the Martin and Neely Anderson Senior Fellow of the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marcia Buskey Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. He has a website, the Blade of Perseus. I'll tell you why later in this episode. You should be subscribing. Victor is. We're recording on Sunday, 27 April. Victor's fresh off an airplane, just where he likes to be.
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Unnamed Speaker
I wouldn't recommend it for a sinus infection, but maybe, who knows? Everything's counterintuitive. Maybe it's the way to cure it. Get it up into your ears and then you can get out your ear.
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Jack Fowler
It's like the tariffs.
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Unnamed Speaker
Tariffs is to you as a bad humor. A bad combination of fire, water, earth and air. Maybe it went out my ear, but it didn't sound like it felt like I had a balloon that blew up. Somebody was doing a sinoplasty when I was landing on my head. Anyway.
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Jack Fowler
Okay, well, Victor, we're going to do one show today and this show comes out on Tuesday the 29th. And plenty to talk about Trump's polls. Trump was at the Vatican the Pope's funeral. He met Zelensky there. We got Victor's take on where he thinks the Ukraine, Russia, war is at. We have a judge in handcuffs. Rightly so, methinks. What's up with Pete Hegseth? What's up with David Hogg? And maybe we have time to talk about a congresswoman, a Democrat congresswoman who had the nerve to vote for the SAFE Act. She's out in Washington state and she's getting vilified. All that Victor's wisdom will be coming at us right after these important messages.
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Jack Fowler
We'll return to our program shortly, but first, an important message about your financial future. Have you noticed gold's remarkable movement? While headlines focus on record gold prices, what's really happening is our dollars are losing value at an accelerating rate. Gold isn't expensive. It's doing exactly what it's done for 5,000 years, maintaining consistent purchasing power while paper currencies weaken. It's like a financial measuring stick showing the truth about our shrinking dollar. Many investors hesitate, thinking they've missed the opportunity because gold seems high. This fundamental misunderstanding keeps them from acting until it's too late. When currencies begin to falter, gold doesn't inch higher. It typically makes dramatic moves that leave unprepared investors behind. American Alternative Assets created a free wealth protection guide to help safeguard your retirement savings. Call 833-2-USA Gold or visit victorlovesgold.com today. That's 833-287-2465 or victorlovesgold.com protect what you've earned before the opportunity vanishes. Foreign Victor Davis Hansen show once again. We are recording on Sunday the 27th. Victor, I am deeply appreciative that you are doing this today, given what you've been through and what you continue to go through.
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Unnamed Speaker
Now, week six, week seven, I want to thank everybody. I've had every single theoretical cure for chronic sinitis of two months. Everybody. There's something I believe me. I've tried everything. Yeah, but antibiotics don't work. I can't take steroids because of my eyes. But pressure. But anyway, Victor, I got off a plane from Arizona and I heard some very interesting speeches. Most of them were pessimistic, but I wasn't. And the keynote whose name I won't mention, he's a big entrepreneur, world famous. He was overwhelmingly confident.
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Jack Fowler
We are talking about the Trump policy, trade, economics, right? Yes.
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Unnamed Speaker
I think every, just as a preface for our discussion today, Trump is right on the precipice. We'll get to the Ukrainian discussions. But it's turning in a way that, you know, David Ignatius is a big liberal. You know what I mean? He's always, he's Mr. Insider that always has the ear of Obama or Biden. And then he sort of, that's his trademark, his brand that I ingratiate myself with left wing presidents. But he wrote an article today and it's basically what we have talked about. Everybody talks about it. It's what Graham Allison, the liberal Harvard political scientist said. It's what my friend Jacob Gregel said. I've written it a hundred times. The settlement is Crimea is never going to get back into the hands of Ukraine. Obama let it go. Biden let it go. Trump's first administration. He said, I'm not going to get near that. Donbass has already been appropriated. They have checkered histories. They were both part of the Soviet Union and prior to the Soviet Russia, they had a majority of Russian speakers. They've been in the hands of Putin for 11 years. So it was just a question of having a DMZ 38 parallel, like break a commercial tripwire, zone of rare earth. And then they may get into the eu. More power to them. They're not going to get in NATO. That wasn't Donald Trump that did that. That was on the sly. A lot of Europeans whispered in Trump's ear. You're supposed to say that they're not going to be in EU, but we don't want them in. I mean, in NATO. So, Mr. Trump, you take the rap. You say they can't be in NATO, but I don't want them in NATO. We're not going to drop our cappuccino cups in Florence and run over there and fight the Russians, believe me. So. So they didn't want it. And the only other. There was only two other issues, and that is. I never understood this. Well, how are you going to deter Putin? How do you deter anybody? It's like saying, how do you know it's not going to rain in a week? He's always on the prowl. But Europe has got, you know, it's got 500 million people, it's got a GDP that just dwarfs Russia. It can easily deter him. Sweden's got the Finns, have the best artillery per capita in the world. The Swedes, my ancestors, they are very adept at fighter aircraft and they're very militant now, in the positive sense of that word. The Europeans said they're going to send. I did some interviews with Europeans. They always said, we're going to send 40,000 troops. 40,000, okay, send them. We need backup. I think Trump will give you backup. And there's a deal. If Trump solves that, he'll save a million casualties in the next two years, and that will be something even the left and David Ignatians will have to. So my point is, he's on the precipice. China. Gordon Chang. Jack, did you see that article he wrote? I mean, he's very anti Chinese, as all of us are Communist Chinese, but he said that the Chinese have come over and they're not talking about it, but they've asked Donald Trump if we can make a deal. And some very key exports that they need, like parts for their aircraft that they can't fly without, and there's nowhere else to get them. They're willing to have zero tariffs on a number of products. So the discussion is basically, will the Chinese extend their zero or low tariffs to other products that are not essential to them, like AG stuff. But the things that are essential, they can't do without. And so they're willing to have zero tariffs to get them in. So we're close to a deal. If he gets a deal with China and India and Japan, the Europeans will have to make a deal. And then you've got a very interesting thing, because all the economic indicators, the job growth, the corporate profits, the inflation rate, the oil prices, they've all been good. And so.
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Jack Fowler
And yet Trump's Numbers are.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes. Well Friday they were 49, 49 in Rasmussen, but he was down four or five in the aggregate. But I looked at them and all the liberal ones had him down 6. Insider Advantage Morning Consult, they had him down by 3 or something like that. So he's not, I think everybody on the right or the conservative side should remember when they, when everybody says the Democratic party's gone from 29 to 27 to 23, that does not mean the Republican Party has got a shoe in. It just means people don't like what they hear from the Democrats. But the Democrats are suicide bombers. I'm using that metaphorically. They're causing so much chaos and so many crazy things that makes their brand look terrible. But when they blow themselves up, Donald Trump is near them and he's getting, they're driving his numbers down to the media.
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Jack Fowler
Well they're going back to one of their old favorites again, Victor, and that's impeachment today. I don't know what he was on ABC Aware but Chuck Schumer, the minority leader, Senator from New York was talking about yeah, let's, we take over again. We are going to impeach Donald Trump.
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Unnamed Speaker
Well he, he, he knows he can't impeach Donald Trump. He's in the Senate. It has to come from the House and I have to win the House. They may and he's only saying that because he's terrified that he voted in a wise manner to ratify the budget and then he's going to be primary by AOC and he's got to get radical. He reminds me of, I've mentioned before, Euripides Bacchae. There's a character, Pentheus and Cadmus, these old men and they put on kind of hip little garments and they act like they're cool. That's what he is like he's a septuagenarian like myself. His time is over and he's afraid that the youth are kickmet so he's going to try to out radical them. We're going to impeach him. No good deed goes unpunished. Remember Jack, when the, the Democrats got, I mean the Republicans had the House during Biden's period the last actually four years, two years, I guess. No, four years. And there was a discussion what to do because he didn't enforce the border, he deliberately destroyed federal immigration law. So they impeached Majorcas. Why didn't they impeach Biden? And everybody on the Romney McCain wing said let's be sober and judicious. Let's not get tit for tat and descend in some of our former friends at national, our current friends, but former colleagues at National Review. Let's not get into a tit for tat. The problem with that is that they do all the tit and we never do the tat. So then they do more and more. And I think it was a 50, 50 proposition. They should have impeached Biden for that, for destroying the border. But I guess they felt that he was so decrepit and he was a waxen effigy, that it was better to have him in non compos mentez rather than to embarrass him further and give him empathy. But they will impeach Donald Trump if they win the house. That is for certain. And I don't know if it will backfire on them. I hope it will. But they gotta be very careful because everything is 50, 50 now. The border is closed. But the deportations, they gotta figure that out. They're close to a piece in Ukraine. It could blow up. But if it, if it goes, Donald Trump's going to. All the economic indicators they said are good, most of them. The Wall Street Dow Jones is back to 40,000. It's right where it was in August. Jack, I got to ask you a question. I mentioned this to Sammy. Why does the stock market and the investing class, the 10%, who own 93% of the value of all the stocks, why do they take the highest point, say, in November, December of 4400, and they say, that is an amber, it's fossilized. That is my money. And if it ever goes down low, I lost $10 trillion. That's Trump's fault. Why don't they ever say it's gyrating? Why don't they ever be a farmer and say, the plum price is 8 today, 12 tomorrow? I don't know what the plums are worth. It's whatever on any given day. But I don't have a birthright to the highest price. And when it goes from $12 a box, I'm speaking the truth. And when I was farming in 1983, it went down to four. The box cost two, the packing was two. So it was a question. Should you let the fruit rot on the tree or pack it and get back your harvest cost, etc. But I never said, oh, it was 12 last year and it crashed. They stole all this money and it didn't go back to $12 for 10 years. So I don't understand this class. They're Completely neurotic. They think that when it gets to 44,000, at that point, that is my money, it should be insured. And anybody that goes low lost me trillions of dollars. But they never say it was 38, it was 36, it was 30 and Donald Trump got it up 65%. They never say that.
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Jack Fowler
Well, they will tell you that in one way they'll say invest your money here because over time, yes, there'll be fluctuations, but over time it will the.
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Unnamed Speaker
Gravity say that to us north.
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Jack Fowler
But then when it fluctuates, yeah, they, you know, they'll soil themselves.
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Unnamed Speaker
You know, I go into some local stores and a lot of the Hispanic community watch Fox. So sometimes the people come up and talk to me. I can think in the last 50 people who came up and you know, about Trump or whatever, the conversation was not 1 0, nothing Navajo have ever said. I'm worried about the stock market. Not one, it's jobs. Price of gas can't pay the PG&E bill. So these are the 50% of America that have 1% of the market capitalization. The other 40% have 7. And I think the stock market is critical to our economy. But this idea that you go into a complete panic because it goes from 44 to 40 and then the, every single day, the Wall street, today the Wall street, this is the worst start in January in history. Well, yes, it went up to a record 44,000 after people got elected Trump. So of course it was at an all time high, had nowhere else to go. But it's. And then you know what's going to happen if he cuts these deals and you get all this investment starts to come in and reified, it's gonna go crazy. The stock market. Yeah, but I don't want to keep hitting the Wall Street Journal. But today, Sunday as I'm speaking, I never read Hard Copy, but I was at a hotel speaking and I read the Hard Copy, Washington Post and Wall Street Journal. And it was just every. You know what I did today, Jack? I looked at the news. You know, the reporters for the Wall Street Journal. I won't mention their names out of deference, but then I, I hit them and looked at the articles they'd written prior and then I googled some of them. I would make the suggestion that they are to the left of the New York Times reporter.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah.
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Unnamed Speaker
The editorial page is Libertarian. It's not conservative, it's Libertarian.
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Jack Fowler
It's a schizophrenic enterprise between its news and its. I didn't read what did Your friend. What did our friend Peggy Noonan have to say this week? Was she lamenting?
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Unnamed Speaker
She was talking about the next Pope.
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Jack Fowler
Oh, okay.
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Unnamed Speaker
I have nothing against her. She's very nice person. But I don't read one word she said, because I would if it was consistent. But it's. One day Donald Trump is elected and we've got to worry about the. The lost interior of the country, and we've got to be more empathetic, and that's what the election's about. The next thing, it's racism and divisiveness and all that. You know what I mean? It's just.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, I could give a treatise on.
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Unnamed Speaker
Her, but that's why I really like this speech from this. And I don't want to give the game away, but he's probably after Elon Musk, the most famous entrepreneur in the United States. And he gave a lecture that was stunning about why we should be confident, why Doge is necessary, why the type of investment and the magnitude of foreign investment that's coming into the United States in high tech, bioengineering, genetics, cancer research, improved crop species. AI my gosh. And you know, what was the theme of the whole thing? American nationalism. It reminded me. And he mentioned. I've written all this about. He had a lot of things that I had written about. Not that he. I mean, I don't think he was influenced, but they were parallel. He was talking about the World War II Production Board. And I mentioned that a lot. You know, William Knudsen, that these people, they're very strange, especially the younger entrepreneurs. They've been told, go out and make money, and we're not going to regulate you. And we're going to do two things. We're going to protect you from those Europeans, and we're going to make sure China doesn't screw you over. But we only ask one thing in return. Protect your fellow Americans. Make Americans stronger. Make the most sophisticated weapons in the world to deter our enemies, make sure we win. The AI. At one point, the speaker said, somebody said something. You get the impression that everybody picks on Elon. And he came up. It wasn't a hostile question from the narrator. It was a good question. What is. And you know what he said? How many satellites does China have? How many satellites do the EU have? And how many satellites do the United States government have? And how many satellites does elon Musk have? 2 to 1. He's got twice. All those people put together, I'm getting. You know, when I hear Jasmine Crockett and all Those people or Jamie Raskin or who are Elizabeth Warren, these non entity mediocrities attack Musk all the time. And you think that he, if he cut off this, if he didn't give Starlink to Ukraine, they would have lost that war. If he didn't come in and get Starlink with all these hundreds, thousands of satellites and the SpaceX, the NASA brand would be worthless if he hadn't gone up there and rescued those people. They probably would have been dead if he, he single handedly created a patent battery that is like no other in the world. I was in, speaking not too long ago and a guy had a beautiful Mercedes and I said, you can probably go 300. No, I can't. I can't go as far as a Tesla. Why can't you? The batteries aren't as he did all of that, this Tesla that my wife has, it just sits there at the charger. And then the next couple of days it's like your phone, it's been super, you know what I mean? Downloaded and it's, it's as sophisticated as the new model. My point is that he's, he's done so much for this country. Yeah. And to hear all these people, I know that he might have a touch of Asperger's. Like all these geniuses, do they. That's how they filter out all the noise. I think their brains are just fixated on science, physics, math. And they don't have the distraction so they're, they can be socially awkward. But my God, you compare what he's done for the United States and then you see these, these intellectual midgets that get up there and call him all these names. I don't want to make fun of little people.
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Jack Fowler
No, no, you're making. I wouldn't use the word intellectual with lack of their. By the way, Victor, I was reading Epoch Times or Epoch Times depending on how you pronounce it. And there was some article about him and it was talking about. We know he has a company that's tunneling company.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, boring company.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, boring company. And something about boring a tunnel from the US to Europe that would then have pneumatic travel of an hour. And I'm reading it sounds kind of, you know, Flash Gordon or space age, whatever. But I'm thinking, well, I bet this guy could do that. I didn't take it as absolute fantasy.
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Unnamed Speaker
Well, I remember when Tesla was. Another little bankrupt company took it over and he said something that. He said something to the effect that all the things that bother you about your Car are going to not exist. There's not going to be, it's not going to overheat. It's not going to have a radiator, it's not going to have all this oil changes. It's not really going to have brakes. It'll break on its own, you'll have brakes, but it's not going to be like you have to change brake pads every 20,000 miles. Your tires will go 70,000. It was, it was like, oh, yeah, yeah, right, right, right. And it all came true. And yet just because he weighed in, they didn't mind when he was, when he voted for Hillary or he said he voted for Biden, people said he voted for Biden. I don't know if he acknowledged that everybody was happy with him. And now he, you know, he endorses Trump after the first, the first assassination attempt. That was the first time he did. And then Doge. And he's spending all this time trying to find he's never going to get a trillion. It's impossible to cut a trillion dollars out of a five point something trillion dollar budget in one year. But he may get 200 billion. He's at 150. But they hate him. And then they hate everything he's done. But he's done more for us than any other. Albert. You know, Edison had genius and invented the light bulb. And then he had this electric company that had a lot of manifestation. Bell invented the phone with help from others. And then he had, you know what came. Bell, Kaiser Steel. He was a brilliant guy. Henry Ford, the assembly line. But I don't think we've ever had anybody who was engineer, scientist, entrepreneur and then did the whole automobile and then the whole way we communicate online and then the space thing and then social media and revolutionized all of it. Joe Biden spent $7 billion for the chargers and there's only like 10 of them. Suddenly Elon's got Charger in Selma, California. There's Tesla, there's a whole bank of Celsius. They're everywhere. How do you do that? I don't understand how he did it, but he did it.
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Jack Fowler
Plus he's leading the world himself.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, you drive in your Tesla and you put, you know, just on your phone, all of a sudden all the chargers and stations on your way pop up and you can reserve. It's just incredible. And the idea that that nincompoop Jasmine Crockett would say we're going to take you down with her fake southern inner city patois after she went to prep school or that Elizabeth Warren with Pocahontas. Hey, Victor.
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Jack Fowler
Victor, I got to ask you about. I've got to ask you about the unnamed speaker. But first, we have an important message for our listeners about their financial future. Have you noticed gold's remarkable movement? While headlines focus on record gold prices, what's really happening is our dollars are losing value at an accelerating rate. Gold isn't expensive. It's doing exactly what it's done for 5,000 years, maintaining consistent purchasing power while paper's currencies weaken. It's like a financial measuring stick. Gold is showing the truth about our shrinking dollar. Many investors hesitate, thinking they've missed the opportunity because gold seems high. This fundamental misunderstanding keeps them from acting until it's too late. When currencies begin to falter, gold doesn't inch higher. It typically makes dramatic moves that leave unprepared investors behind. American Alternative Assets created a free wealth protection guide to help safeguard your retirement savings. Call 833-2-USA Gold or visit victorlovesgold.com today. That's 833-287-2465 or victorlovesgold.com protect what you've earned before the opportunity vanishes. And we thank the good people from American Alternative Assets for sponsoring the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor, are we allowed to say, are you allowed to say what the venue was, that this.
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Unnamed Speaker
No, it was, it had something to do with my job and it's an annual retreat and there were a lot of my colleagues speaking, but there was kind of the piece de resistance with the last speaker. And I had, I mean, I have followed him, but it was just stunning. It was just stunning to see someone who is second perhaps to Elon, and maybe I don't mean that in a derogatory, but I mean, he has the same type of renaissance skills and to see him to be so he was so confident. He was just like what we've been talking about, Jack, that things are going well.
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Jack Fowler
But did it go over well with the. I assume there were people there who were policy people and then maybe some philanthropic. Well, did it go over well with the same.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes. Everybody was relieved because, you see, I work at an institution where the word tariff ends all conversation because we have renowned economists and I don't our economists essentially think tariffs are either A, irrelevant. I mean, trade deficits, excuse me, trade deficits are either irrelevant or B, there's no real opinion on they go up and down, or C, they're good. They're good. And for someone to come along like Trump and say they're bad. And especially when you have a huge budget deficit and even greater problem with the national debt. Especially as Jason Furman, as I pointed out, who was Obama's and I think the brother of Judge Furman, one of the cherry picked anti Trump liberal judges. But he wrote an op ed saying anytime that the trade deficit is greater than 3% of current GDP, you're in big trouble. And he had a long formula. But the point I'm making is we're over that right now. So I would think that a lot of my colleagues would be more worried than they are. But I gave a two talks. One was a debate with a historian, a very renowned historian, and the other was just a talk on my own and I thought I was pretty upbeat. I don't know how that went over, but there were some people there who also gave good talks. I left. I just feel that something's happened in Silicon Valley. I wasn't a big fan of Silicon Valley, but. And it's not just that Andreessen or Horowitz or Elon or the rest of them have gravitated over David Sacks, those people, but it's that they have a. There's a bunch of young anduril defenses. Drones, it seemed, you know, he mentioned drones. It was just. The speaker did. It was just fascinating that basically we're building these 150 million dollars, 200 million dollar fighter aircraft that can only, the human can only accept nine GS, you know, when they're turning at that speed. And drones can do like 15 or 16 or even higher GS. So when you put a drone beside, you know, a fighter drone and you program it, it's going to destroy the human aircraft every single time. And he had some statistics on what just off the wall. He wasn't trying to be data driven. He just said this is roughly what's the kill ratio of armor and aircraft. And it's drones, it's drones. So what his point was that we've got to really recalibrate everything and we're going to do it. It wasn't we've got to do it. We're not doing it. We're going to be able to find in five years cancer cells as soon as they appear in your system. Through this type of new AI technology, we're going to be able to grow certain types of crops that will get nitrogen from the air and not from the soil. And he said even though he was getting on in years, this was the most exciting time to be alive. And that he. And then when the Questions were directed toward Trump. He was not shy about saying that he would. He had a. Someone China came up and he just said, I would not want to take on China. I know what they, I know what they can do to people and to companies. But somebody had to do it. I'm glad I don't have to do it, but I'm glad he did. And Gordon Chang has a very good, as I mentioned, he has a good article about, I don't know if he's very optimistic. It might be triumphalism. He said that China is folding as we speak and that we haven't even got into delisting their companies that cheat and give false data on stock exchanges. Or the 300,000 students. If you cut off the 300,000 students, or you just said, you know what, for every American in China, you can have a Chinese student in America. That's fair, isn't it? We have 9,000 students in China. You can have 9,000 Chinese students here. They would be cut off from their technology in five years. They would start falling behind us.
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Jack Fowler
It would kill a number of colleges here that are dependent on their money.
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Unnamed Speaker
That's the big shoe that's going to drop. And we were also talking about that. Other people were that. And I wrote an article last week that the universities do not want to get in an argument with the federal government because they're the proverbial picturesque mossy rock on the hillside that looks beautiful. And you turn it over and there's slugs and biters and dead crap in there and fungi. And that's what they have with their racial policies and Chinese money gutter and, yeah, 500 million this year from China. Communist China. They don't give anything, listeners. You know that better than I do. They don't give anything. Gutter and Communist China, unless there's a quid pro quo. They're not philanthropic people. They want a Middle east studies program that hates Israel and indoctrinates stupid, naive, spoiled brat elite students that will be diplomats and politicians and CEOs.
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Jack Fowler
They expect a big return on their investment.
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Unnamed Speaker
And they get it. They get it. Look at what's happened.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, we're going to take a little break and when we come back from that, let's see, we should talk about Pete Hegseth and the various contretemps he's in and the pressure against him and how you think he's doing. And we'll do that. And we'll talk about the judge in handcuffs, the Milwaukee or the Wisconsin judge who was arrested for facilitating the escape of an illegal immigrant from her courtroom. All that and more when we come back from these important messages.
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Victor Davis Hansen
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Unnamed Speaker
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Jack Fowler
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Unnamed Speaker
I take it very serious. If somebody subscribes to our website. I have promised them 700 words, 6 to 800 on every Tues every Tuesday and every Wednesday. And I was doing it every Friday, but I've substituted a 10 to 15 minute video on Fridays. And in four years I haven't missed one. Not during COVID long Covid or flu or the sun. I really think it's important that if you take money from a customer, you're obligated no matter what. So last night I had this head thing was pounding and I couldn't sleep. At 2:30 I wrote my two ultras and my column. But it's really important that you do that or people, you know, you can't just say, well, I got your money and I don't feel well, so I'm just not going to write something you have to have every. So I haven't missed one in four years. I haven't missed a column twice a week, I think for five years for American Greatness. And you know, I only missed one column in National Review for 22 years. That was when I had a ruptured appendix in Libya and I couldn't get Internet service.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well, you're almost dying so that you're forgiven for that. But that was remarkable.
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Unnamed Speaker
That was appreciated by my National Review colleague.
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Jack Fowler
It was appreciated. Yeah, it was appreciated by me, your.
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Unnamed Speaker
National Review colleague, you and you alone.
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Jack Fowler
That that's not true.
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Unnamed Speaker
That is Solomon.
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Jack Fowler
Okay, bad memory lane. Let's. Let's talk about. Let's talk about Pete Hegseth.
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Unnamed Speaker
I love Pete.
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Jack Fowler
No, Pete. A long time. So what? I know him, so I love him. But he is really coming under a lot of.
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Unnamed Speaker
They think he's the most vulnerable. They're out to get him. Yeah, he had. There's this maga. I wrote something. A New Republic. Roger Kimball, who's a brilliant editor.
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Jack Fowler
New Criterion.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes, and the New Criterion about the contradictions. I don't mean it in a negative sense, just the centrifugal forces at play with the maga. The isolationists versus the interventionists and then the compromise of what you know. I think he's a brilliant writer too. Walter Russell Mead called Jacksonianism, you know, don't ask for trouble, but don't screw around with me. If I could use that term. Don't tread on me. No better friend, no worse enemy. So that was sort of the tension that is there. And this foreign policy is. It mirrors that. In that signal leak conversation, you saw that tension with Pete Hexseth. You know, he didn't really know which. You know, there was J.D. vance on one side and Waltz on the other, but he was trying to figure it out. I know there's. All the leaks have been. He's got some MAGA people around him and he let them go. They went to Tucker. They said that they did not want this administration to preempt and hit Iran. There's people on the other side that did. So you never got the story. There were people leaking. And then. This is really weird. Susan Rice, this is the woman who got. Who managed. I think it's a world record, Jack. She got on TV five times on one Sunday and lied five straight times about Benghazi and claimed that that was a spontaneous attack due to a video in the United States by a Coptic. It had nothing to do with the Al Qaeda pre command or poor preparation or. They had been prior warned. And Hillary didn't. She just lied. Lied. And they put her out there to do that. She was very. And then she lied and said that there was no WMD in Syria. Remember that? We had this red line moving around. Obama said. And we got the Russians in. We invited them in after a half century and you know, they're there and they've just heard it. And she lied about that. And then she came out and said she got fired from the Defense Policy Board and Advisory Board.
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Jack Fowler
This was the other. Last week.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes. And he fired Pete said, you know, this is where the leaks are coming from, one source. So he got rid of all the people who were Biden, Obama, leftist. And she got so angry, she went on and said, this was a white male. What, Cisgender, Christian and mediocrity and going after people of talent. You have no talent, Susan Rice. Your record speaks that you did not tell the truth. You five times lied to the American people. You lied to it about Syria. It was on your administration's watch and Barack Obama as president, your boss, that Vladimir Putin went into, went into the Donbass and Grimea, and he did that because you refused to sell offensive weapons like javelins to the Ukrainians. You did that. And you, your team went into a disastrous Russian reset where you appeased him, appeased him, appeased him and thought you were going to. By the power of your persuasion and your, I don't know, rhetoric, you were going to make him into a left wing, progressive, liberal, humanitarian. And when he didn't want to do it, then you went the other way. But then he took advantage of you. Susan Rice, do you remember Seoul, March 2012? Mr. Medved, the President said to Barack Obama, they had a hot mic and Obama said, tell Vladimir that this is my last election. He gives me space. I'll be flexible on missile defense. And he canceled missile defense with the checks and the polls. And why did he do that? He did that so Putin would not invade in 2012 and make him look like a fool. He kept his bargain at our expense and got rid of missile defense, which would be very handy right now for the Eastern Europeans. And in exchange, Putin did not invade till 2014, but he did invade because he. Because of your. And you have the gall to get up and say, pete Hegseth is a white man and a race. It was a racist rant. His race has nothing to do with it. The other footnote to this is Lloyd Austin. You remember Jack, when He came in January 20 as Secretary of Defense. I think it was on. I have a pretty good memory. I think it was February 2nd or 3rd. It was about two weeks later. He fired every single person who had been appointed by a Republican on the Defense Advisory Board and included luminaries like Jack Keane, General Keane. He fired all of them. He fired new. He fired all of them. He did just what Pete Hegseth did. I didn't hear Susan Rice said, oh, Lloyd Austin, a man of color, hates white people, and he fired them all. That's what he did, Susan. He did exactly what I didn't hear A word. And then people are saying, donald Trump fired. Is it CQ Brown? The had a person of color who was the Joint Chiefs and he's fired a couple of more generals. He's got a lot to go because in five year period, Barack Obama relieved of command 179 officers, including the top ranking officer in Afghanistan, General McKiernan. And he, you know, McChrystal, he relieved him. He relieved everybody. He relieved James Mattis. He believed everybody who he thought would not follow the Obama, whatever the Obama dogma was. So this was just so silly. It reminds me of this. Did you see that article that David Brooks wrote about Donald Trump being an authoritarian? It's time to galvanize. I could not believe that. I thought, David, you sat there and you didn't say one word when Alvin Bragg contorted federal law as a local prosecutor to destroy a political appointment. If you didn't get that one, you could have got Fanny Willis. Is there a reason, David, why Fanny Willis was taken off the case? Why she had to pay a $50,000 fine and she's now looking at criminal exposure for not complying with a subpoena on documents? Is there a reason why Jack Smith is under a cloud of doubt that he didn't tell us that he took $140,000 in free legal fees, why he was special prosecutor? Is there a reason why Letitia James is now looking at allegations of insurance fraud, excuse me, mortgage fraud, perjury, falsification of documents. These were the people that you didn't say a word about that warped the system. If that wasn't enough for you, we've got the Mar Lago raid, we've got debaloting Donald Trump. We've got these people in solitary confinement with no charges. In January, he didn't say a word and all of a sudden it doesn't go his way and it's dictatorship because a complete thug who was a spousal abuser who was picked up in a trafficker's car, driving it with eight illegal aliens, speeding, speeding. An illegal alien who had gang affiliations and tattoos. And that's the cause that the left is going to die on. That is a civil right. No, no, no, no. Don't believe anybody should not believe any of this. That Donald Trump is a dictator, that this warping the law. He's vindictive. Jonathan Turley is really good. When he wrote about today about the judge that was arrested, that was completely out of line at what she did. And he was really good in explaining it.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, we're going to talk about that, but I have to say something.
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Unnamed Speaker
Okay.
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Jack Fowler
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Unnamed Speaker
I'm going to have to take an airplane again. I'm going to have to get a little pressurized helmet so that my sinus doesn't explode. I'm confident I'm going to. I've tried oregano sprays, I've tried Manuka honey sprays, type of silver spray. I've taken Sinopret when I was in Europe. You know, the Europeans don't believe in antibiotics like we do, right. So they have this thing, you can get it in Greece, it's German, it's called Sinopret and it's a herbal remedy of four or five decongestant. And it actually the National Institute have shown of health, Institutes of health have shown there's some value in it. So I've been taking that and I've tried every. I try to get each quackery thing three or four days and then doxacillin. That was a nightmare. And so was the Z Pak because I have this mass cytosis stuff but anyway, the point is, I will get to Hillsdale. If I have. I can drive. It's only 2,000 miles.
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Jack Fowler
Your car will tell you all the Tesla stations along the way. So, Victor, you. You mentioned Jonathan Turley in his piece. And this is Judge Hannah Dugan from Milwaukee County Circuit Court. Judge who was arrested and another Hill that some Democrats want to die on. She. What did she do exactly? She kind of played a fake game so someone could slip out the back door.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes. If anybody else did that when a person was wanted, they'd be. That's a felon felony. And she was arrested and everybody's upset. And then she boasted that she was willing to go to jail. And she's a cause. Good. Let's be a cause celeb die on that thing. That guy was also a beater. He hit a woman and a guy. They always pick the people who are the most repulsive. You know what I mean? You're gonna get. Why don't you find somebody who is, you know, he's a roofer, he's working 12 hours a day and the trunk. And he's never been arrested. He's never taken a dime of welfare, and there's a mistake and he's deported. Go get that person. But why do they keep finding all these people? I mean, they're everywhere, these criminals. Kristi Noem is in a burger house in Washington, D.C. in the professional thief sees her.
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Jack Fowler
Did you read about that guy? He's illegal from Chile. He was arrested.
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Unnamed Speaker
Professional thief.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, right. Global thief, even. Yeah, but he's here in the U.S. what was it?
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Unnamed Speaker
I have to ask to Democrats. How did you guys pull this off? How did Joe Biden open the border and get every horrendous criminal in the world to get across that border? It's amazing. They're everywhere. I have a feeling that if they just let. That these district judges will just follow law and let them be deported, the crime rate will plummet in half. They're everywhere. They kill people on the road every single day. There's a story about an illegal alien who gets drunk. Did you see that Russian immigrate? His son and his girlfriend were killed by an illegal alien who was drunk and tried to flee the scene. They're everywhere, these criminals that were led in under Biden, and there. It's an epidemic of crime. And they seem to. They want to champion these people. So this judge. And then there was another judge that said. Didn't she say she's going on strike in empathy, solidarity. That is a crime as well, for a judge not to show up and deliberately do so as a form of protest. I hope they put her. I hope they just say, you know what, what you did is comparable of going into the capitol when it was closed and walking around the Capitol. Not the people who did any violence, just walking around, you know, talking to the guards. The guy with the horns, remember him? Oh, my gosh. Viking guy. He had a lot of psychological problems, medications, and they put him in solitary. You should just be treated the same way by the federal government that those people were because you people all thought that was great. There was a lot. There were hundreds of people who committed no violence. And they were put in, incarcerated for a long time before they were even brought up for an indictment. And then they were harshly judged. I wish that they could see that. Victor, we have another judge. Jack. We had those two judges, New Mexico. Yes. He had a gang member living with him. Right. And he tried to erase the evidence on the phone. There was evidence of barbarity and crudity. Killing. You know, torture.
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Jack Fowler
Two headless people. Yeah.
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Unnamed Speaker
What is it? What is it? Why do these judges and all these. Gosh. What is so attractive about Khalil Mahmoud Khalil? What is so attractive about Luigi Mangione? What is so attractive about Carmelo Anthony? What's so Abrego Garcia? What is this? The pantheon of the new left?
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Jack Fowler
My God. Godless people. They're going to pick oddballs to worship. Genuflect in front of. Victor, the related topic, and I don't know if you spoke to the great Sammy Wink about this, but the. The argument on due process coming from, you know, the right also. But that old.
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Unnamed Speaker
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You're not going to get away with that little hint. You're talking about the due process from the right. We're talking about a former colleague of ours, no others.
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Jack Fowler
It's. It's broader than that. I know you went down the Andy road. I love Andy.
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Unnamed Speaker
I like Andy McCarthy. But he's been writing about the injustices done to Mr. Garcia.
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Jack Fowler
Well, this is a broader issue to me. Is the. The Judge Jackson, Justice Jackson, who said in the late 40s, some decision, you know, the Constitution is not a suicide pact. And this is. This is a suicide pact. If we believe this invasion of 12 million, which is, as you've pointed out, it's more like 20 million, is. Must be adjudicated on a one by one basis.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, the. The principle left goes by. Is it, as I said before, it is legal for Joe Biden, a Leftist to break the law and allow in 10 million plus illegal aliens. But it is illegal for Donald Trump to try to rectify that lawlessness and find the people and enforce the law. That is their primary, that's the theme, that is the policy that guides them. So you can let in 10 million people, some of them right during COVID no vaccination, no medical history, no criminal history. They all broke the law when they came. They all broke the law when they resided here. And there's no consequences for the people who deliberately floundered the law like Biden and New York. There's no criminal exposure. And each one of those who had no audit now is deserved, deservedly supposed to have a trial, even the ones that have deportation orders out. He had two trials. The only reason he wasn't deported is some judge felt that a gang and I like that logic, especially he's not a gang member. Those tattoos have nothing to do with gangs. I know there was a police report that said that he was with M13 gangs. But if he goes back there, he's threatened by other gangs. But it's only because that gang one sidedly threatened his family and it had nothing to do with him being in a gang. Oh, and by the way, most 99% of M13 people are now in a maximum security prison. And the present Bukele has basically broken M13 so he wouldn't be in danger if he went back. And oh, by the way, it's Yankee imperialism to say that, oh, we're Yankees, you know, it's, I don't know, it's 1890 and we think our little brother down in El Salvador, you know, we're ordering you to take one of your citizens out of your jail who you think is an M13 person with the other people and you have him in there. And we're ordering you, El Salvador, a sovereign nation, to send your citizen back to us after he entered illegally. I don't think we have the right to tell a sovereign nation that.
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Jack Fowler
Victor, we're going to talk about DAVID hogan, DEMOCRATIC Party we're going to do that after the break. But before we go to the break, I just want to mention get your thought on something quickly because we're talking about before tariffs and other things. One of the things Donald Trump is doing through some of his cabinet officers is addressing the regulation chokehold on America. And here's a little headline. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum to streamline permitting time from years to one month. On Wednesday, Secretary Bergam said that the department's streamlining of priority permits will bring the department review time from potentially years to just 28 days. And he's following Donald Trump's national emergency declaration, the Department of the Interior underberger moved to implement emergency permitting procedures to accelerate the development of energy resources and critical minerals. I think this is vastly important thing and Victor, we even though in a small business level, what investors, business owners are saying get the regulations off my back and I'll be able to.
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Unnamed Speaker
He's the anti Californian because here in California we've lost about 20% of our oil production. We could be number three in the country in oil production. We have the Monterey Shale natural, we could do anything. But Gavin Newsom who now he's saying that Donald Trump's tariffs have hurt are responsible for his misgovernment. But we're going to lose 20% of our oil refinery. All the refineries are leaving because of Gavin Newsom's rules and regulation. So since Gavin has become governor we have a $30 billion high speed rail boondoggle. The 99 is still the most dangerous highway per mile driven in the nation. We're cutting back on the production of oil which we have in abundance. We're not refining oil. 1/5 to 1/4 of all PGE customers have not paid their bill which has doubled under Gavin and it's going to go up again. And he took money that was designated for three critical dams for storage. We could have used them this year. We had a pretty good year water and snow wise and he blew them up. 80,000 customers lost, clean energy, hydroelectric power and he's not done yet. He is the worst governor in the history of California and it's so sad. We have everything here, Jack. We have rare minerals, rare earth mineral in our desert. You know what I mean? We could mine them tomorrow and with Wyoming we could be independent. We don't need China's rare earth minerals. We have them in places like Utah, Wyoming, California, Minnesota. Why don't we just do it? Yeah, we could do it but Gavin won't do it. And so Steve Hilton is running for governor. Did you see that?
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Jack Fowler
I did see that. Do you know him? Have you?
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Unnamed Speaker
Yes, I had dinner with him not too long ago. I like him. He's very bright. It will be a challenge for someone who was a British national, he's a naturalized citizen to appeal to the diverse population of 27% of our population. Maybe that'll help. He were not born in the United States.
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Jack Fowler
I mean an Austrian bodybuilder was governor.
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Unnamed Speaker
He did it. You're Absolutely right. He did it, Arnold. So I think that we're in a mood for a radical change. I just don't know if he were to be elected. He's dealing with the most unhinged legislature in the world. But maybe if he were to be elected, then there would be changes because these, I think they've only issued maybe 100 permits in Pacific Palisades of it. Thousands of people lost their homes. The person who was the head of water and power, who had the reservoir dry, the hydrants weren't working, she's still there. I think the deputy mayor is still there, who was under house arrest for allegations of phoning in a bomb threat. London Breed is still there. You have all of this. I don't know how you deal with all that, but it's getting to the point of a third world country. We have the largest exodus. People are leaving. And there was an interesting. I had an interesting conversation also with a person at the place I was the last four days, and we were talking about fertility. I didn't, and I mentioned it myself on here. But there are trends, Jack, below the news cycle, that we don't really are aware of, that when you have all these people, 3 to 4 million a year, leaving New York, Illinois, California, Minnesota, and then you have a very different culture. You have the professional woman, the climate change doesn't want to bring a child into the world. You have a greater per capita incidence of abortion. But the fertility rate in the red states is, you know, like point. It's not 1.6, it's about 1.8, and it's not 1.6. And the blues mean it's about 1.4. And so the families and people are going to red states and they are increasing in population and that's going to be in the next census. It's going to have maybe 10 congressional seats. But more importantly, what's the word? I don't want to use a clinical term that sounds like Brave New World Huxley, but they're outbreeding the blue states. The blue states. It's a death cult. It's a personal, sensational sensualism. I'm not going to wake up at 2 and change a diaper. I'm not going to contort my beautiful body. I'm not going to be responsible as a man to have to worry about providing for two kids. No, no, no. We're going to go out every night and party. We're going to go. We're going to do culture. We're going to do wine and nap about we're going to do all. But we don't want kids.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, well, you can't have a. I think it is literally a culture of death where you have 70 million abortions since Roe v. Wade. And you know, states are hell bent now on euthanasia for whatever reason. We're going to follow in Canada's footsteps. So layer that on top of a lack of religiosity. What else is. Are we surprised that it's come to this?
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Unnamed Speaker
They have no idea of the divine law of karma or what comes around, goes around nemesis. They keep judging the past as if they're their moral superiors. 50 years from now, people are going to say, wow, 20, 25, those guys had a half a million people injecting, defecating, fornicating on the street like a medieval city feces maps, man. They aborted a million people, a million live babies a year and maybe 20,000 of them were in the birth canal. This is horrific what that generation did. Gosh, the way the homeless stuff and then the racial animosity and then they libeled all these generations and called them racist. That, you know, that died in Iwo jima, Normandy Beach V17s to save these. This generation yet to be born. What an ungrateful, undistinguished and mediocre generation these, these people were. Yeah, they're going to be really seen. They're going to be really damned by history. They're going to be more damned by history than they damn history, put it that way. I don't mean. I don't mean that as a pejorative either. I mean damn since century.
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Jack Fowler
I know what you're saying. We haven't seen the last of the insanity either, at least politically. Victor. And we'll get to that when we come back from these final important messages. We are back with the Victor Davis Hansen show on recording on Sunday. Sunday the 27th of April. This episode will be up on Tuesday the 29th. Victor David Hogg. If we want to take this on quickly, here's a headline. The DNC is on the verge of civil war as Chair Ken Martin warns Vice Chairman David Hogg to knock it off. What, Knock Watt off? Well, Hogg has been talking about racing, I think $20 million to create, you know, have primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who are not liberal enough. I don't know why this is. This is what Democrats do, by the way. It's what a lot of parties do. Republicans did it too. I mean, the Club for Growth did that. But how did AOC get elected? She was a Socialist who knocked off a member of the Democrat leadership. So this is in line. But the, the. The DNC leadership for the time being, which is Hog. Will would, would knock it off. James Carville, I think, scoring a punk or something.
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Unnamed Speaker
Tweet something like that. Twerp.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Contemptible little twerp. Yeah.
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Unnamed Speaker
Anyway, I mentioned that to Sammy. What does he ever. I mean, he was a survivor of the Parkland Mass school shooting, but what has he ever done? Remember he was going to put out Mike Lindell. I mean Mike Lindell kind of. I mean, imploded sadly. But he was going to make a pillow company, wasn't he? David Hogg, with all of his entrepreneurial. Elon Musk, genius, apparently 25. He's never done anything. If you were a California or you know, Malibu billionaire and you wanted to give the dnc, would you rather give him money or Kamala Harris in the last two weeks of the campaign, would you rather pay for those private jets for those little twins corpse that were working for Harris or to pay off Oprah or Beyonce or. Or would you rather give it to David? It's a, It's a hard call, but I don't think they're going to be very successful under.
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Jack Fowler
Did you see the cattle show?
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Unnamed Speaker
We don't.
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Jack Fowler
I don't think we ever talked about when they. The DNC was selecting the.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, I did. My gosh.
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Jack Fowler
I mean, they are the gift that keeps giving. I hope.
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Unnamed Speaker
It was like the French Revolution when you in the. In the French Parliament, you know, the mountain and all the Montagnard. And then they were all screaming and yelling about the supreme ratio being. And what was the name of the new week? Is it 10 days or nine days? And how do we rename the months of the year? The days of the week? Yeah. Have you gone out to that monastery and killed all and raped all the nuns yet? It was just the same stuff. It's just nutty. They couldn't even function because they had all this pronoun and this and that and trans this and by that. It's just people don't. They don't understand. I don't think they understand. They keep thinking that because they proclaim that they're the party of the working person, the middle class. Ergo, then that's true. They have no idea what a Mexican American guy who's a painter working 12 hours a day or a white guy on a forklift or a black guy who's driving a truck down I5 or something. They have no idea. All the stuff they have to put up with those guys to make a living. And then they hear these little subsidized twerps talk about all this crazy pronoun stuff and not having children because of global warming and not, you know, not putting an offline oil refineries and stuff because somebody in Carmel doesn't like them. They're really out of touch. But they are nihilists. And so when they create all this chaos and that's what they're doing with Hexa, it's kind of like they'd like to drop bombs, but the people, I mean, they like to blow themselves up, I should say. But there's people around them that get blown up and it's hurting Donald Trump, this hysteria. It is. He's got to be very, very careful. He's on the that.
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Jack Fowler
But there's nothing they're doing in any. With David Hogg or Schumer or anything that is not quantifiable as crazy dumb the hills to die on. We're all going to go to El Salvador and we're not coming back until we bring this hoodlum back with us.
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Unnamed Speaker
Yeah, I guess it's like everybody's supposed to say, oh, man, I love those Biden years. I love that 9% hyperinflation. I love 30% on essential goods more expensive than when he came in. I love that 7 trillion build back. Better inflation reduction. I love. That was a beautiful withdrawal from Afghanistan. Oh, why didn't he get 20 million? We only got 10, 12 million across the border. I guess that's the attitude.
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Jack Fowler
Well, we dodged a bullet. You saw, maybe you did see clear clip of him at the Vatican. He went to.
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Unnamed Speaker
What was he doing? He was doing selfies.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah, yeah.
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Unnamed Speaker
He got mad at Donald Trump because he wore a blue suit. And then he had two little chairs where he was talking to Zelensky and Macron tried to butt in. He said, you don't belong here. Supposedly they read his lips.
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Jack Fowler
Vatican intrigue. So. Hey, Victor, I appreciate that you've as weary as you are that you're able to do this. So we're at the end, but I have a long reader note. A little long. And this is, I think this is from your website. This is from the Blade of Perseus and it's Dear vdh. It's from a guy named. Well, I think it's a guy. Chris L. Thank you as always for your historical and current takes on events that affect us all. On a lighter note, after listening to hundreds of hours of your personal history and academic knowledge, I Must say that folks like you were job security for me. As a 25 year paramedic beginning in 1972, it would appear you have experienced many of the illnesses and injuries that I routinely responded to. Your description of having anaphylaxis brought back many memories of many similar calls. I dealt with a true emergency with so many physical implications. I'm glad you had a knowledgeable team to deal with it. Regardless of sex and race. We are only a year apart in age and I must say that I have had. Had a much healthier life than you appear to have had. You're very correct. That foolish youthful behavior may have prevented several of your events. Aside from that, I would like to make only one suggestion.
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Unnamed Speaker
I'd like to take it.
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Jack Fowler
Well, here it is. Do not die. We need you around for another 20 years.
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Unnamed Speaker
You remember the end of the end of that great David Lean movie Bridge in the River Quiet with the British officer says madness, madness. That's what I think about. I think I'm going to write an essay about which is preferable to have an open surgery on your kidney for six hours or have sit in the water with the stone breaker surgery. Or my favorite is to take a tube with a laser on it up into your bladder, through your phallus bladder up to your ureter and then zap things in your kidney or ruptured appendix might be more interesting. Yeah, sinus surgery. My God. To go in and drill out the. I had one of the. I can mention his name. I don't like to get. Ma'am. I had a guy who was just. What was the word? He's an artist of surgery. His name was Jerry Hester. In Menlo park he outlined. We're going to do this, you know, we're going to straighten your nose and we're going to do drill out your passages and we're going to. Got to be careful about, you know, we're near the eye and the brain. We're going to do the turbinates, maybe a polyp. And I talked to a guy in Fresno as a series of operations, you know and I said well I guess this is going to. No, no, we'll do it in an hour. And he did it and I had five. If I wasn't living on this farm with all this stuff, I probably would have been fine. But he was a master artist. He really was. I'm seeing him again. I hope he can do it again. I'm sure he can. I've been really lucky though for all these self inflicted wounds. I Always. I always have a. Like when I was in Libya, they couldn't find any surgeon. In the middle of night. It ruptured for two, two days. I was in 105. And then this Dr. Abub showed up. He's an Egyptian guy in his pajamas, smoking. And he said, your name is Hansen. I have never done a ruptured appendix. But we don't have sodium benthol. We have ether. And we are going to sit on the table and I'm going to take it out and I'm going to wake you up and you're going to look at it. And I woke up, I thought I was in Dante's Inferno. He had a bag and said, look, I took out some of your intestine. I saved you. Your gangrene was going up an inch an hour.
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Jack Fowler
So I was always in a kind of a hospital type of clinic.
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Unnamed Speaker
No, it wasn't a hospital. It was a Red Crescent clinic. My two Russian era minders dumped me off at the doorstep and said, see, you wouldn't want to be you. And I came in there, knocked on the door at 2 in the morning, and I said in the worst English, I've got a fever. And they took. This Iranian guy was there and he took me in and he sat me and he goes, you have a rupture to pitch appendix. You're gonna die unless you go to Tunisia tonight. I said, I'm not gonna go to Tunisia. We have no antibiotics because your government, the evil George Bush, has put an embargo on all of our stuff. We have no painkillers. This is what you get when you come to our country. I said, can I have, please? So they put me on a little table and they put a bunch of ice on me. And then they called around, they said, there's nobody. We can't get you in the hospital. Da da da da da. Oh, and this guy showed up and he says, I'm Dr. Abub, and I go and take it out. I just need anesthesia. And this Iranian guy showed up that was teaching people and he had a little tank of ether. And Pakistani nurse who was interpreting said, I think you should pray to Allah. This is your time to become a Muslim. And I said, I believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ. She said, yes, he was a good prophet. Good, you'll make it. So I've had. I've had really good doctors, but it's all been excess. They were all avoidable. Every one of these things was avoidable.
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Jack Fowler
Well, it's not your fault the bike broke.
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Unnamed Speaker
No, Malaria in Egypt, that was avoidable. Don't go to there at that time and take the hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine tablets. If you got a pain in your right side, don't go on a plane. If you've got kidney stones, get out of a trench when you're digging in Corinth and drink water. I could have avoided them all. Bike accident. If your bike collapses, go get an X ray. If it's carbon, it might have a hairline fracture. So it doesn't collapse on you. No. I feel it's recklessness. It's madness.
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Jack Fowler
You're not okay. Yeah. Whatever. You've. Thank God you've survived. And thank you, Chris L. Because we do want.
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Unnamed Speaker
I appreciate that. Paramedics. I don't. Those. I. I have the. When I went into anaphylaxis with this bee sting, a young Hispanic. I shouldn't even say, it doesn't matter, but she came and I said. I woke up. I was out, and then I woke up and she said. I said, I think I'm fine. She said, you're 70 over 35. I think it's time for you to get in our truck. She says, by the time we get to the hospital, you're going to be fine. And bam. EpiPen, EpiPen, Benadryl, Singular, Pepcid, all this stuff. And when I got there, I felt like walking out like a new man. She did that. All the team did. They were wonderful. We've got really good people in the United States for our pathologies. We really do. We've got really good doctors, too. I've always, always been saved by a good.
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Jack Fowler
As long as we have meritocracy and medical. Medical training, we will have great doctors. But otherwise, we. We were cruising for a bridge.
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Unnamed Speaker
I had a great doctor, Marshall Sorensen. God, he was good. He was an old country doctor. He's my age, not old. And he kept me going for all these little things. I'd go in there and he goes, well, it's time for tuna. What do we do now? Oh, your shoulders. Separate. Oh, you've got this. We can fix this again. I wish he was still around. He retired. He was a wonderful person, too.
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Jack Fowler
Well, Victor, I want to close this out with two things. One, my friend Ken, who is. I've mentioned him on the show once or twice before. Well, I've known Ken 50 years. He wants to know what kind of lipstick I'm wearing. I'm not wearing lipstick.
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Unnamed Speaker
Your lipstick. Well, look at your lips compared to Mine, Mine, you're Red is Italian or Irish?
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Jack Fowler
It's both. You know, I happen to be both. So thanks, Ken, for your feminization of me. But the the other thing is, I want to thank A couple folks have written me this week about Civil Thoughts. And that's the free weekly email newsletter I write every week. It comes out every Friday for the center for Civil Society, which is trying desperately to strengthen civil society. That's what makes America great and exceptional, is having a vibrant civil society. So what civil thoughts? It's 14 recommended readings, great articles I've come across the previous week. To get it, go to civilthoughts.com sign up and you'll start getting it right away. Thanks to those who do such. Thanks to those who subscribe to Victor's website, the Blade of Perseus. Again, the web address there is victorhanson.com and do consider sending it as a gift to mom for Mother's Day's coming up. Victor Next, when we talk again, I'm gonna put put a pin in this. We are approaching the this week will be the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon and I'd love to get.
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Unnamed Speaker
Your I remember that watching it on TV. Gosh, 1975 as a graduate student. I was watching it. I don't know if it was as bad as Afghanistan.
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Jack Fowler
Oh my mom.
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Unnamed Speaker
They were very similar.
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Jack Fowler
Yeah. Well, we'll get your thoughts on that when we come back for next time. And we thank you Victor for all the wisdom you shared. Thanks everyone for watching and listening. Well Victor, let's say goodbye.
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Victor Davis Hansen
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