Jake Tapper (3:42)

Yeah, I was on Megyn Kelly today and we discussed that part in part, among other things. But did he ever really say I'm sorry he said it. I mean, he may have called Laura Trump up, but did he ever say to an audience what I told you was untrue? It was clear to me that he was mentally challenged, cognitively in decline, and I attacked people who said that. And I am sorry to all of you, that was unprofessional. I don't expect him to do the proper thing and resign because he misled the country with catastrophic effects. If you think of the border and Afghanistan and the auto pin part, all the terrible things that Biden did, well, I shouldn't say Biden did. Somebody did in his name. So he didn't do that. He did say he felt humiliated. But here's my point. Why has he said anything about that? He was fooled or he was mistaken. And the answer is pretty clear. It's for two reasons. One, Joe Biden is out of power and more importantly, he hasn't been president since June of 2024 and he has no power to either punish or reward Jake Tapper. What I mean is the if you flip that over in the converse, if Joe Biden was president right now, would he have said that? No. If Joe Biden had stepped down and Kamala Harris was the candidate right now, would he have said that? No. So he was lying when he knew he was lying. So then the question is why did he say it now? And the answer is that he has a book out. The second thing is his publisher has told him you wrote this book quickly, but we didn't realize all the time on tape that you said the very opposite of the book. The book is accusatory of the media class for not detecting this. But you were one of the kink men. You were A debate moderator. So we're going to have to square that circle. So we suggest you go. I'm just imagining what they told. So we suggest you go out and you not only say you were mistaken, you try to say you're humble or you hire a media consultant, which he did, to handle the incoming flack. So my question is the same as Russian collusion, laptop disinformation, 51 intelligence authorities, thousands of files that were classified at Mar a Lago. Do they ever apologize? No. Do they ever learn from their lies? No. They just go on to the next. So why would I believe that when he was lying then he's telling the truth now? I don't believe that. I don't believe he feels humiliated. I feel believe he saw that he had a chance. His co author and Axios author actually had more integrity. He did criticize the media cover up, but he was not going to get a contract because he didn't have a marquee name. So he, Tapper just kind of married himself to this, this other guy's book project and now he's going to make millions of dollars after deceiving the American people. And he doesn't seem to be upset about it. I'd like him just ask him some questions. Jake, would you just please tell us, since you wrote the book and I haven't read it and I'm not going to buy it, who was the person who conducted the auto pin pardons? Who was the one that came and said schiff needs a pardon, Fauci needs a pardon, Millie needs a pardon. Here, here's what we wrote. Just auto pin it. That's what happens. Can he ask that question?

Megan Kelly (7:00)

I, I don't think so. But that brings us to the second topic, which is there's more that has come out and I'm not sure. I think you and Jack talked a little bit about it. Joe Biden's prostate cancer has been announced this last week. And so he had not just cognitive problems, but he had this physical debility as well, which probably, I'm not a doctor, but it probably augmented as soon.

Jake Tapper (7:23)

As you mention it. And somebody wrote and said, well, you're not a doctor, stay in your line. I don't have to stay in my lane, I'm not stup. But anybody knows that if you're president of the United States and even if the medical consensus said after 75, you might not want to take a PSA test, Donald Trump took one. And the president, who is the most important man in the world and the most medically observed should take a psa. But according to them, we're supposed to believe he didn't take a psa test for 11 years. He took one in 2014. And then we're supposed to say, well, he's over 2014. This is 11 years ago. He was 70. What is. He was 71. So if he has cancer, he will die with it rather than from it. Well, you don't know that. You don't know that. He was a vice president. So he took a PSA. So my question would be, why don't you call Dr. White House? Dr. O' Connor put him under oath and said since he has been president the last four years, given it's the consensus of the urologist that have weighed in on this subject that he did not get a metastasized tumor from prostate cancer suddenly since he left office, he had to have that. So you're telling me that when he complained of symptoms, he just now complained of. So would you please testify? We're going to ask you one question. Did you ever give the president United States in the last four years when you were attending to him a PSA test? I'm not talking about. Did you ever record it? I'm not talking about. Did you ever include it in your summary? Did you ever give him a PSA test? And I think that could be discoverable. I don't think. I think he did. I think they did and they monitored it. And I think Joe Biden in 2016 made a joke about prostate cancer. He said something to the effect, well, I told Barack I would be as president as long as I could unless I had prostate cancer. So there were all these questions. And we all know that that type of virulent cancer doesn't appear on the spot. And we all know the president's state is monitored for every simple symptom. So we all know, according to Mr. Ezekiel Rahm Emanuel's brother and an architect of Obamacare, that he believes he could have had it for 10 years. And it surely he said he was the most likely scenario. And I think Dr. Hamadi, who was on Fox, who's also a urologist, expert surgeon, said that the chances are very likely that he entered the presidency with it. And you're telling me that his doctor didn't know about that. So that's the second thing, that they not only took a cognitive decline declining president and used him as a veneer to usher in a left wing agenda, but they knew that he was sick and they did not want to disclose that to the people because if they had disclosed it, they're not sure that Kamala Harris at that point could do the job. So that was an ultimate from the Democratic Party is really not a Democratic entity. They have not had an open nomination in eight years. They did not nominate him through a free process. They took Jim Clyborne, pushed the data up of South Carolina so it would be the first primary you'd vote. Then he had lost the New Hampshire. Biden had lost the New Hampshire and Iowa caucuses to Bernie Sanders and Pete Buttigieg. There was Elizabeth Warren. And then in a 35 day process they all mysteriously left. And then they were left with Joe Biden. Remember Cory Bookie Booker? Cory Booker in one of the debates basically said, I don't understand what he's saying. His cognitive decline was clear in 20. But they used, they thought, you know what we can use good old Joe Biden from Scranton. He's a veneer and we can push the farthest left agenda we've ever had and we can get away with it because we change the voting laws under the guise of COVID for so that 70% of the votes cast in the swing states shall not be in person votes as they had. We're going to flip it so they're going to be mail in and they're going to be early balloting and there's going to be less effort, less ability, less certainty that they're all going to be verifiable. And then we're going to put Joe Biden in the basement or maybe kind of like a drive in movie scenario where he's in a car and they all honk their applause but he's not going to campaign. And then we're going to get him president. We know he's cognitive decline and rather than be a disadvantage that's useful because he can be a useful vessel and put a moderate veneer on this hardcore neo socialist agenda. The only thing we have to do is watch Joe so that he's able three days a week, four hours a day to pull it off. And B, he's always been a cranky mean SOB and he is vicious and we can't let him go. Get off my grass rants. And they pulled it off to give them credit for three and a half years and then the whole thing collapsed. And they said to Joe, well Joe, we created you, we insider donor class and we gave you the nomination. You and Jill had a grand old time Dr. Jill had her moments of glory and fame and you'll make money. And now we're done with you. You're no longer useful, so get the blank out. And in 24 hours, they canned him. And then they thought, well, we didn't really have an open primary in 2020, and we had a fake campaign, so we'll just have no open primary in 2024, and we'll just pick you, Kamala. And then somebody said, well, what do we do? The narrative was that we couldn't get rid of Biden because she's an incompoo and she's unqualified. Well, we have 48 hours. Now we make her into Cicero. She's eloquent, she's vivacious, she's charismatic, she's dynamic, she's young. And we'll raise a billion dollars. And that's what they did. So they're not the party of democracy.

Megan Kelly (13:20)

And I'm sure Jake Tapper participated in the brilliance of Kamala Harris.

Jake Tapper (13:25)

Right now he has a new little mem that. Well, it's very well known that both the Trump campaign and the Biden campaign didn't like me. No, nobody knows that. They liked you. When you tore apart Lara Trump and slandered her as cruel and said that she was making fun of Biden's stutter, you knew that wasn't true. You were an operative for Joe Biden, and you don't have the guts to come out and say, you know what? I'm at a point in my life that I did something very wrong and I misled the American people, and that had cosmic consequences. I'm going to have to resign. And the very irony was that people have been interviewing him that have suffered, right? And they have suffered their careers during me too. There's a lot of them. And they lost their everything. And yet they're interviewing him, who created a far grievous offense against the American people than they ever did. And they must be thinking, he gets all free and makes millions of dollars on a books, and they destroyed our careers.

Megan Kelly (14:22)

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Jake Tapper (15:36)

When I mentioned that last comment about reporters that had their careers ruined and interviewing, the best example I'll be explicit was Mark Halpern. He was me too. Do you remember that during the hysteria I don't want to comment on whether he was culpable or not. But he lost everything and he apologized and he lost everything. And then he created a new career as a podcast interviewer where he was empirical and he's very good. He's not partisan and he's analytical. And so I'm saying to Jake Tapper, look at Mark Halperdon. He resurrected his career. He was done an injustice. You weren't done an injustice. So you're basically not going to resign and evading coming to terms with what you did to someone who did come to terms with what he did and learned from it and now is one of the premier journalists in America, I think because he's honest and so he should take that as a model. I really like Mark Halpern.

Megan Kelly (16:37)

What I noticed about all the coverage was this week is they, they of course have been asking well who was making the decision since obviously Joe Biden was having a lot of trouble in that. But what they're not saying or what I think is kind of striking is that given that he was so bad off cognitively and he had such physical debility, it really tells you something about Kamala Harris that even they didn't want their DEI violence vice president to step into a presidency. They would have kept anything rather than have common house.

Jake Tapper (17:10)

She was DEI is because she'd never really. She had the most left wing voting record to the left of Bernie Sanders. She was on record protesting against deportion, deportation of any illegal alien. She was on record of being against fracking, she was going to ban gasoline cars. Every radical left wing position. So they thought, you know what, she's incompetent, she's not very bright and she cannot speak. Anytime she gives, there's a moment she'll go into a word salt. They knew that. So they said she is the Spiro Agnew of our era. Just like Nixon was under assault because of Watergate and they wanted to get rid of him. As long as Spiro Agnew was there, the people said, oh, my God, we can't have Agnew. And so they, they got rid of him. They cooked up he had done some things wrong as Maryland of government. They were going to impeach him. He's. He pled no, no lo contendere. They sentenced him and then they brought in Jerry Ford. And everybody said, good old Jerry Ford from Michigan, he'll work. We can get rid of Nixon. So that's what they, that's what they were thinking. When they use this wax and effigy, we'll get diversity. And Joe Biden had cooked his own goose because he had in advance said he was going to pick a black woman when he got caught up in the euphoria of the George Floyd riots. And everybody thought, okay, Stacey Abrams, Maxine Waters, London Breed. San Francisco Mayor Karen Bass, L.A. mass. She's got a great career. She has a rendezvous with the fires. So they did that. And then when they, they thought that they would never have to deal with her. And then when they dealed her just on spec, she started talking and they said, oh, my God, we were right 48 hours. They said, oh, this is so great. They were so giddy to get rid of Joe and she'll be a very effective wax and effigy. But then they said, oh, my gosh, she can't talk. I know what we'll do. We will put her on ice. She will have no interviews. She will have no press conferences. She will have no extemporary speaking. That's exactly what they did. And finally the media goes, but how about us? We don't get any exposure interviewing her. And then she had those softball embarrassing interviews. And then she started hiring Beyonce and.

Megan Kelly (19:17)

Al Sharpton and anybody to distract from her.

Jake Tapper (19:23)

And the donor said, we'll take care of it. We'll outraise Trump. We have. The Democratic Party's got the money, not the Republicans. And they were right. And she lost. And then they cheated the entire thing. We now know that all of her pollsters were telling her and her handlers, you're going to lose. You're going to lose big. You're going to lose the Electoral College, you're going to lose the popular vote, you're going to lose all the swing states. Every one of your issues is losing. And then she said, but that's not what NPR says. I'M going to win by four points. That's not what the Marius poll says. That's not what Gallup and CBS Harvard. So they were, they were worse than her internal polls and lying. All of those pollsters who are now telling us that Trump has a very unpopular approval rating 100 days, he doesn't. But they were lying through the whole campaign. So the money, the billion dollars, the fact she was di. All of the polls that were rigged and it didn't, it didn't help her. Finally, the American people said, I'm done with all this. I can't take it anymore.

Megan Kelly (20:20)

And they turned on a commendation of the American people, to be sure. And what's strange is all those lies escalated and they keep escalating. Even Jake Tapper is just clinging to. He's just once again, you know, oh, I didn't know. I have humility, but I really didn't know. It didn't come out until later.

Jake Tapper (20:42)

And I tell you, I was on Megan Kelly's for almost two hours that she. And I just watched her clip. She held him to count. She was tough on him and I thought she was wonderful. That was the first time anybody has ever done that. And the only reason he went on her show was because she's like number two or three in podcast glam. So he knew that he was thinking, what are the chances that I will sell 50,000 more books versus a little hour of pain? And maybe I can sound contrite. She didn't even let him do that. She tried to. But why? You know, it's. And then we get into the other peripheral very quickly. We mentioned Joe Biden, but why did Joe Biden announce. Because we're supposed to feel, and I do feel bad for him. I would not want to have. I have a urology appointment tomorrow. I hope I get good news. Now that I think of it, at 8:45, I haven't had one in a long time. But my point is, why would they announce that Joe Biden suddenly now has metastasized cancer three days before this blockbuster book comes out? It couldn't be that they would be leveraging his illness and say, you know what, let's take attention away from Jake Tapper's book and then put it toward Joe Biden. So if you think you're going to criticize Joe Biden, you can be like David Axelrod. Yes. But now that he's got a possible terminal illness, we just gotta lay off. So the left. Everybody should remember they're capable of anything. This comes on the Tail, I thought. Did you learn anything about Russian collusion? Did you learn anything about Kevin Kleinsmith forging documents for FISA courts? Did you learn anything about the crooked career of James Comey? Did you learn anything about lying about the laptop saying it was Russian? Did you learn anything that the FBI had it for a year and didn't tell any anybody? Did you learn anything that the FBI partnered with Twitter to suppress the news? Did you learn anything that Anthony Blinken helped round up 51 people to lie their heads off, the American people, that the laptop was made in Russia or something? Do they ever say, I'm sorry, we're just supposed to. Well, that was then, now they're telling the truth. No, you lie, lie, lie, lie. And why do they do all this? Because they hate Donald Trump because he is the first Republican in my lifetime that is waging a 360 degree 247 counter revolution. What do I mean by that? It's not that I'm going to close the border alone. It's not going to get away do with a racist di do away with it. It's not that we're going to try to restore deterrence abroad. It's not that I'm going to address the transgender. I'm going to address the mechanisms by all of which this aberration happened. I'm going to look at the court system and lawfare. I'm going to look at the foundations that fund all these people and say they're nonpartisan. I'm going to attack some of them. I'm going to look at, especially at the universities are getting away with racism, taking foreign money, not declaring it, not respecting the first Amendment, the fourth Amendment, fifth Amendment, sixth Amendment. I'm going to look at the whole student loan process. I'm going to look at violence committed against students, dorms, racists. And I'm going to look at the media, npr, pbs. So he's looking at all the institutions that allow these crazy ideas that don't have any popular support to be mainstream and that's why they hate him so much. Reagan didn't even do it. Neither of the Bushes did it. There's not going to be, I don't know, I don't see any way out that either one side is going to win and the other is going to lose. I don't see a compromise.

Megan Kelly (24:15)

Well, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit about South Africa. Stay with us and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hanson show. You can find Victor on X. His hands handle is Ed Hansen and on Facebook at Hanson's Morning Cup. So if those are your social media channels or platforms, please come join him there. So Victor Lott with South Africa. Just recently, in fact, the South African president and I hope I get his name right here, Cyril Rama Ramaphosa. Ramaphosa was here to talk with Donald Trump in the White House. And I listened to that interview and it was very interesting. Donald Trump did not let him off on the murders that are occurring with farmers. Yeah, he did. And then he had a whole bunch of papers with stories about all these people. But I just want two things so you can go off on either.

Jake Tapper (25:16)

So I had the golfer to testify that also brought with him and the guy basically said, well, I'm a guest to show the government wants me to show that this is exaggerated, but in fact it's not. And then he gave examples of how reverse racism, if that's the word.

Megan Kelly (25:31)

Yeah, okay. And then the second thing that you can comment on, either President Trump and the South African president or Rubio who was torn into by Senator Kaine and he held his ground about the South African refugees being special cases and that they weren't doing this for other people. That should be refugees.

Jake Tapper (25:55)

No, they weren't doing that. Except for 3 million of them. Of the 12 million that came in that didn't even have to as a South African, was it 48? So the 48 people have had, are in danger and they have applied for refugee status in their country and they are granted 48 people, but because they're white. These left wing people say that it's racist, but it's not racist to open the borders and have 12 million people all non white by design, I guess. But more importantly, refugees who don't even apply for refugee status are economically challenged, but not politically. And then you give them status so they won't be deported without any verification. But they don't get it. They don't even apply to. They're already illegally broken the law. What if the 48 had flown and said, oh, I lost my passport. Donald Trump, can you give me rep? They didn't do that. They applied. So it's even worse than that. And Marco Rubio just said, the only reason you're upset is they're white because that's your whole party's racist. And he didn't back down. He just, he said, well, you know, I wouldn't have Senator Rod Holland, I wouldn't have voted. I wouldn't have voted to confirm you. And he goes, I wouldn't expect you to, given you know who you are.

Megan Kelly (27:08)

He said, that's a commendation of how well I'm doing my job. The fact that you regret it.

Jake Tapper (27:13)

The only, My only slight criticism of him, he said, you had a margarita with a person who was a trafficker, a gang banger and an illegal alien. We could have added, what spousal abuser. Remember his. His wife said she felt afraid he was going to kill her. And you went down there and had a margarita with you. And then you were basically telling the El Salvador governor, I'm a Yankee imperialist. And even though you're a sovereign nation, I am ordering you to take one of your citizens, free him from your jail, and tell you that I think he's not a gang member and you don't know gang members like I do in your country. And then I'm going to steal him from your country and send him back to my country. Country. And they said, what are you, a running dog? Yankee imperialist, we're not going to do that. I was such a loser. Loser, loser. And the fact Tim Kaine is. Something's wrong with him, to think that he's going to bring that up.

Megan Kelly (28:04)

And then, yeah, South Africa, and then.

Jake Tapper (28:08)

That was Von Holland, and then Tim Kaine did the South Africa thing and the two of them made fools of themselves. It just reminded me what a. Gosh, they're so lucky to have two people in that administration, Scott Bessant. Bessant and Marco Rubio. Because not. Not saying that the others are not good. But what they do is when they have a controversy, they explain it. They show you what the truth is. But most importantly, they don't raise their voice. They're calm, they're exacting, they're analytical, and they're far smarter and better spoken than their critics. And you can see why on the tariff, the trade, the Treasury, Bessant's portrait, his profile has really gone. It's risen. And this should remind everybody. Marco Rubio, when they were claiming that Trump wanted to invade Panama and he wanted to tear up the treaty, they sent him down there and, you know, he spoke Spanish, and after he just kind of clapped his hands and came back and said, well, we got an opportunity for BlackRock to buy the entry and the exit, and we're trying to wean these people off. They know what they're doing. They may say, oh, Yankee imperial, but they know what they're doing. They invited the Chinese, they got the money from the Chinese. They were distance themselves from us who built the canal and gave it to them and helped engineer the independence of their country in a kind of a Yankee 19th century move. So my point is he's very valuable. My only suggestion would be, you have an existential war with Putin and Ukraine, you have an existential negotiation with Iran and nuclear arms. You got an existential what to do with Hamas, Gaza, the hostages. And it's white Witkoff. I think that's too much for one envoy and I think it should be. Those envoys should be returned to the State Department because Trump trusts Marco Rubio. Every time today in our interview, it came out every time Trump has been asked about a third term and he denies it now. He was kind of trolling them, but he always says there's great people. There's J.D. vance and Marco Rubio. And I think Megan or Mark Halburn said today, oh my, he didn't say who was going to be the top. It he goes, I don't think you could beat J.D. vance and Marco Rubio as a 12 ticket because of the experience they've had and how well spoken they are and how they deal with the media. So his profile is rising. But I would, because he agrees with Trump. He's a Jacksonian like Trump is. Trump is not in maga. He's not in the completely in the JD Vance wing. He's not a nation builder. He blasts at that. But he understands to have deterrence, every once in a while, you gotta deal with a Soleimani or a Baghdadi or the Wagner group that's attacking you and you don't have to do it much, but you have to be disproportionate. So if the Wagner group thinks they're going to go bully an American installation in Iraq and you've got to destroy it utterly. And he did. And he did the same thing. If the people say, oh, you can't touch Baghdadi, he's gonna. You get rid of him. Oh, Solomonia, he's sacrosanct. And then you don't have to be interventionist. And so he squares that circle and Rubio has squared that circle. So I would suggest as a nobody from Selma, former raisin farmer, that he might, just might want to entrust all of the envoys under his direction because he agrees with Trump and Trump trusts him. Trump should just say, you know, Marco, we got all of these crisis and wars and we want to solve them all. Just get me somebody to help Witkoff. And you control it. You make and you report to me. But let's get discipline and not just take one person and make him go all over the world. You know what I mean? I think that he can do that.

Megan Kelly (31:47)

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Jake Tapper (33:34)

They have a right to request from an agency special treatment because they're an overseer of that agency as a legislative representative. They don't have a right just to join. You can't just say and go into a prison or a police station. And she thinks she can. She's very entitled. The Democrats have told us. Alvin Bragg said it, Letitia James said it, Fanny Willis said it, Jack Smith said it, Judge Engoron. And they said no one is above the law. No one is above the law. No one is above the law. Of course no one's above the law. So she thinks she's above the law, that she gets to go in and push her way and assault. I don't know how she thinks she's going to win, especially if they go to a grand jury. It's just there she pushed the guy and she assaulted him. If you get pulled over and you try that with a policeman, you're going to be in big trouble. That's a felony. And I think she does it because she's seen what they have done. She saw that January 6th people were convicted of felonies for walking and charged with what? Illegal parading going into the Capitol. The ones that didn't do anything but violate, you know, they went into a building where they didn't have public hours. So she looks at how they treated them and then she looks how they let off most of the people of the 2020 riots. She saw that the Hamas people swarmed the rotunda, the same rotunda, to protest and shut it down. Remember, an AOC was talking to them and Rashida Tlaib, they thought that was wonderful. And she saw what happened to represent Representative Bowman, who committed a felony when he set off the fire alarm to delay a congressional. And they only gave him a little tiny censor. So she's thinking, they're not going to do anything to me. I can do whatever I want. I'm a representative. I don't know where that's a sense of entitlement. And then when, of course, they did do something, she, she played the race car. But as I said, the race card is not working anymore. It's not working for a variety of reasons. To go back to that Rasmussen poll of the first hundred days, 62% of Hispanics thought Donald Trump was doing a good job and should continue doing so. 39% of African Americans agreed. All the other left wing polls, that Trump is suffering from historic anger. He's not. And the point that I'm making is part of his support is people are sick of racial divisiveness. They're sick of the DEI canon that says if I'm part of the 30% Marxist binary oppressed victimizers, then by definition I cannot be an oppressor and I cannot be a victimizer. So now we have this whole explosive idea of race, race, race, race, race. Fannie Willis, remember when she got in a jam? Well, you don't understand black people. We use cash all the time. So of course I don't have receipts, even though I hired my boyfriend and we toured the country and on a cruise and we build the government, my agency. But you're racist for thinking that. You don't understand that blacks always pay cash. And then we go to Letitia James, a proud black woman. Yes, I said that my father, I was married to him. And yes, I tried to claim a two different residences to get a tax break. And yes, I lied on a loan application, which I find Donald Trump $375 million for. But I'm a black, proud black woman. And there you go. So, people. And then we had the Caitlin Clark, Angela Reese, little Tiffany. When Angela Reese kind of threw down, hit somebody and knocked her down. So then to stop her from scoring when she was undefended, Caitlin Reese did what they all do, they just slapped her on the arm so she wouldn't score easy and got a foul. And then Angela Louise then started chasing her, didn't she? Yeah, well, and then she commented in the. They have a real problem. If you think about the Women's Basketball association, the majority of players are black, but with the entrance of Caitlin Clark, the majority of. Of the spectators are now white. And it's not because she's white. It's because she's probably the best woman basketball player in a generation. So she's bringing in enormous revenue. So what are they going to do when all of these PC overseers of these national professional leagues, they always say they're so take a knee. We know the NFL does it. They're all di. So what are you going to do when you have a black woman who used a racial slayer, White galaxy. And why did she do that? Because the left feels that victimized people, by statute or by de facto can do anything they want. They can never be victimized. So we have Jasmine Crockett saying, you know, they don't. Basically, she was in an interview and she's thinking, brilliant people like me won't ever be nominated. She didn't mention that AOC right now is leading in the polls for their future standard bearer. So she says they're just looking for a. A safe white boy. Just a safe white boy, white boy. What if they had said they're just. What if you. Instead of saying that Kamala Harris was a DEI candidate, you just said, oh, they just wanted some old black girl, what would happen to you? And then we had that tape that came up from Ilyan Alma or about white men or a terrorist. They were the. They're. It was racist. I could go on, but you're getting this new frustration that after all the DEI and all the special preferences and all the exemptions, people are tired of it. And so now they're ang. They think it's fine to use racial epithets and slurs. White boy, white gal, white terrorist. And it's. It's only going to dig deeper. People are going to. They've already lost the white working class, they'll never get it back. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is saying, it's class, it's class, it's class. I'm your. I'm your huckleberry. If you're a Hispanic painter, I'm your huckleberry. I shouldn't say huckleberry. That's kind of your foe. But I'm your hero, because I have more in common with the white working class than the white working class has with Chuck Schumer. I have more in common, and I'm going to help you more than the Hispanics class, than aoc. And I have a lot more empathy and worry more about the black inner city and middle class than does Jasmine Crock. And he's taken race out of the equation and created class. And the Democrats go, oh, my God, we've so slurred, victimized the white class and made fun of them. They don't like us anymore. They're voting 57% against us. So we need 90% and we don't have it anymore. If Trump can get a signature peace deal in Ukraine or the Middle east or with Iran, somehow and the economy takes off with all this investment, he could actually pick up seats, which we haven't seen since 2002 in the midterm.

Megan Kelly (40:20)

Yeah, that's probably true. But he seems to also be in his new Zen, I would call it, where if you watched him today with the president of South Africa, he just was like, blasting him with videos on the killings going on and a whole bunch of printouts of articles on the people that were dead and the most Zen, like, voice, pleasantness and like, I can get along with you. You too, President.

Jake Tapper (40:48)

People didn't mention that one of the reasons he got a deal from China wasn't just that anybody who has a $1.1 trillion deficit like we do, what more can they do to us? But if you have a $1.1 trillion surplus and your economy depends on it, you are vulnerable. Number one, there's 11,000 students in China. Americans, there's 300,000 here. They don't have to be here. They're here for one purpose. The Chinese government pays their way, so they bring back technological expertise, and they don't have to spend as much on R and D because they're getting it from US And Europe. There's thousands on green cards, and thousands came illegally. So Trump is just sitting there thinking, now let's think about South Africa. There's a lot of students here in the United States and South Africa. There's very few of us over there, if you are white, would you want to go over to that country? It's got one of the highest crime rates and it seems to be race specific, especially. And number two, do we need South African students here? Do we need their market? They're going to shut us out of the South African market. Oh, my God. Oh, maybe they have oil. No, they don't. So what is there? So Trump is thinking, well, why do they have this sense that they just come over here and tell me, you know, what to do? And they lie and they just passed a law that said there's not going to be any compensation for. There's not going to be any compensation for confiscated land. It's aimed at the white farmer class. And the only reason. And then they're going to say if it's in the imminent domain. And he said, well, that's like the United States. No, it's not like the United States. If you want to build a highway through somebody's property, it's adjudicated high speed rail. Made a lot of farmers millionaires here in the valley because they had to compensate. You're not going to give them anything and you know it's going to be. And their problem in South Africa is, number One, there are three generations from our apartheid, two and sometimes three. So they, these young kids, 30, 40 were children when this thing happened. So they're going to condemn them on the sins of their fathers or grandfather, great, grand. And some of the families are nine generations. But number two, they look at Rhodesia and they think, well, they had land confiscation. They slaughtered a bunch of white farmers and they killed them off or drove them out. And they had the largest, they had the, one of the largest per capita economies in Africa. They were a food exporter. They had one of the most efficient agricultural sectors in the world and they destroyed it. And suddenly they were starving. And that. Do we want to do that? And so they don't know what they want to do. They know what they're doing. They can't stop it. And Trump is just saying, you know what, I looked at your votes in the un. You're one of the most anti Israeli, anti Semitic peoples in the world. You really are. You just damn Israel for everything and you're anti Semitic and you're hostile to the United States and you want to come over here and cut a deal with us. I don't have anything against you, but, you know, you're not Nelson Mandela. Nelson Mandela told the west that even though he was present by an Apartheid government, that he was not going to play tit for tat and do to them what they did to him. And that was the promise of South Africa. You broke that promise. You're just emulating the tactics of apartheid. Only even apartheid, they didn't just go out and murder people. I mean, they're individuals, but the government, some of these gangs are sponsored by political parties. So what I'm getting at is that the world needs the United States more. And that was the big contribution of Donald Trump. He said, we don't have to apologize anymore. Reagan said that, too. But he basically went one step further and he said, you know what? We are the strongest country in the world, but we are not using all of our resources. If we use all of our energy and we use all of our technology and we protect it and we don't give it away, and we stop funding people around the world with us ID that hate us, there's nothing we can't do. We're the place everybody wants to come. So, you know, you want to come and talk to me, fine. Don't lie to me that there hasn't been 50 or 60, 70 farmers every year that are murdered for their race and their property. Just don't do it here. And if you don't like it, leave. And that's the same attitude toward the Chinese, the same attitude toward the European. You know, he basically said, we're. We're subsidizing NATO. You still got eight countries that won't pay their 2%. Canada, you don't want to pay it, that's fine. But when you get in the jam, don't call us to go bail you out. 80 years after World War II, and now Europe is in a bind because Putin has now rebuffed Trump. Trump. And Trump has learned that Putin caused the war. And Putin is terrified to go back to his apparat, the military industrial complex, the generals and the oligarchs and the communist leftovers and all those cutthroat people in Russia and say, you know what? I had a brilliant idea of invading Ukraine because the Donbass and Crimea were not enough, and I was going to take over all of Ukraine. And now I've lost a million Russians dead, wounded, and missing, and our economy now is finally hemorrhaging, and I've wrecked the military for 10 years, and I've made the Ukrainians the largest army in Europe and one of the most sophisticated drone adversary, and I can't conquer anymore. So I got to justify to you why I did all this. So I institutionalized Crimea. They might have taken. No, Vladimir. That is not enough. Why institution institutionalized Dombass. We don't have to get. No, Vladimir. Not enough for that cost. Well, I'm 60, 80 miles from the border. No, Vladimir. But I got him the promise. I'll never be in NATO. No, Vladimir, you better do better than that. Well, what do you want me to do? We want you to keep fighting and get a. Get either win the war or resign. And you know what happens if you resign. That's what he's terrified of. He's got to get something more for to explain the blunder that he committed. And I don't think he's going to get it.

Megan Kelly (46:36)

Yeah, there's nothing more to get without doing the Ukrainian.

Jake Tapper (46:40)

Don't Trump everybody. They're all critical of him. But he was, as I said earlier, is the only person that talked about the Stalingrad like cost in human terms of how horrible it was. A million and a half dead, wounded and missing. He's not going to just cut Ukraine off. He's not going to because it would be like Afghanistan on his watch. He's not going to do that. He's not going to fund them to go to Moscow, but he's going to find a way of making the Europeans pay more and then they'll keep them viable. And he has one ace in the hole that no one's ever used. Used. I think they use it against South Africa and they might have used it in Turkey after. So. And that's a secondary boycott. If you tell the Russians, tell the world, anybody who buys Russian oil, anybody. China, you're not going to be in the banking system. You're not going to have any commerce with the United States. That would shut down the Russian. That would be dangerous to do because Russia would have no alternative either to be humiliated and back off or to escalate.

Megan Kelly (47:37)

Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and talk a little bit about Elon Musk, who is. I think he's had a little bit too much of politics. So stay with us and we'll be right back. Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. You can find Victor's podcasts on video, on YouTube and on Rumble. So please come join us there. And on Spotify it is. The Victor Davis Hansen podcast on Spotify is the name of the channel. So, Victor, what do you. What are your thoughts on poor old Musk? He's said he's not going to be so involved in politics in the future.

Jake Tapper (48:23)

Poor almost well, spiritual 350 billion. He's still the richest man in the history of civilization and more importantly his mind is intact and he's young and he will be very wealthy again very quickly. And all these people who hate Teslas now when I drive down the road I look in the windows, some of them look pretty left wing and they know that for all their, that Tesla is by far the best EV on the market. It's not even close. So he said he'd done enough, he's exhausted. They just trashed him and the left. I don't think he ever thought that after. I think his way of thinking was I provided free Internet for the people of Los Angeles when they had no, no, no Internet. I parked a bunch of cyber trucks with Starlink stations so that everybody would have Internet. I saved Ukraine by giving them Internet that powered all their drones. I saved NASA. It was a disaster. I created the most powerful rocket. I just saved Americans trapped in outer space. I saved social media. It was completely a left wing dominated, censored, discredited fora now it's just a free everybody does what they want. And so he looks at X, he looks at, at Starlink, he looks at SpaceX and he looks at Tesla and he's bewildered that people hate him. And he came late to the game of politics. He didn't endorse Trump until after he was the first assassination. And he voted, probably voted for Biden. He doesn't talk about it, but it's pretty clear people have said he did, he voted for Hillary. But the left is unforgiving. You have to be 100% servile or you're an apostate. So he looked very troubled, especially when South Africa doesn't even want him to give them from Internet because he, he has to have 30% black owned. It's kind of. They copied that from us by the way. Well, we have public projects where a certain number of the contractors have to be a certain color because we're still in our racial throws, racialist throws.

Megan Kelly (50:19)

Oh, you mean the Obama library is the thing that we've seen that most.

Jake Tapper (50:23)

Of the federal projects are that way. But he looked really troubled and bewildered, like what did I do to you people? I don't, I've never met him, I will never meet him. I have nothing to gain or lose by saying this. But if you calibrate all of his endeavors in electric vehicle, space, Internet, social media, neuralink, you can make the argument that he is the greatest inventor, entrepreneur, renaissance man in the last 500 years. He's Henry Ford, he's Henry Kaiser, he's Alexander Graham Bell, he's Thomas Edison all in one. And, and the idea that you would turn on him and hate him and try to destroy him and threaten him and destroy is just sick. What he's done for the United States is incontestable. I think everybody, the left is really, I don't even recognize the left. It's not even the peace and hippie freak. I know there were terrorists like Bill Ayers and all that, but the 60s hippie left wing nihilist movement was kind of pathetic, but it degenerated into terrorists and killers, but like Cymbeline's Liberation Front and all that. But I don't remember the Frankenfire. So full of anger and hatred and bitter Claire McClaskill, you know, she's so mad she can't get over the fact she lost her Senate seat. And she said the American people were stupid to vote for Trump. They're just not smart enough. No, they were smart enough to get rid of you. That was a smart thing they did. And they were smart enough not to be governed by Kamala Harris with another 12 million illegals. So.

Megan Kelly (51:52)

So Victor, let's go ahead and turn to a few cases and maybe news to the people and your comments on them. The first thing is Project Homecoming has taken home voluntary deportations. The first 64 this last week. I was like, I know it's not much, but maybe it will start a flood. You never know. Yeah.

Jake Tapper (52:18)

Especially if they say if we catch you and we're going to catch you, you can never come back here again in, we'll put you in jail and we're not going to let you in. So I, Donald Trump said something today that was profound. He was kind of startled when they were talking about Biden's illness and all of this. He said, who was in control? Who would do this? All that legislation with an auto pin. Who would ever do all this? He couldn't even imagine what they did at the border. Who would destroy the sovereign border of the United States? Why, it's going to take a generation to find those violent people. They'll never find the 10 million. And then the idea that the court system is going to make to adjudicate almost every one of those cases which they didn't care one whit how they came in without adjudication. Every one of those people that they think suddenly has to have a drawn out multi million dollar trial broke the law and they don't care. It's, it's Just incredible.

Megan Kelly (53:15)

Know, it's a start. So the second case before the United States was, were criminal charges against the mod ranchers, the family mod. And they had criminal charges drawn, put or against them for a fence that had been on government land apparently, but near their own land for since 1910. And the Biden administration raised, instead of making it a civil lawsuit and, you know, wreck reconciling it, they made it a criminal lawsuit. And then so Trump has decided to roll back on the criminal charges. So that was a good thing.

Jake Tapper (53:56)

Classic cultural divide in this country. So you have these people that, well, five generations, four generations, they work the land, they're good custodians of federal land. They utilize it and produce things on it. They take care of it. And then you have some arrogant, sanctimonious, self righteous, probably Ivy League lawyer, you know, an environmental epa, and then they have all the power of legislative, executive and judicial at their fingertips. And they look at these people and they look kind of like working class people. And they think, you know what? I'm going to destroy these people. I'm going to go after them and I want them off. I don't want any humans on federal land except me. And I'm going to go after them and I'm going to bankrupt them. They're not going to know, to quote Chuck Schumer, they're not going to know what hit them. And it's good to see there's justice done by Trump.

Megan Kelly (54:53)

And the last one was just Kash Patel has come out to say that Jeffrey Epstein in fact did die by suicide. And I know there were a lot of people that were worried about that decision. Do you have any thoughts on that? I thought it was interesting.

Jake Tapper (55:08)

No, I can't because they have so much more information than I do. The only thing that I was troubled by that is there is information that the people that were monitoring the jail remember that, that they were asleep or.

Megan Kelly (55:19)

On computers in some fashion, okay, looking.

Jake Tapper (55:22)

For things to buy online on Amazon or something, I don't know. But he had no future ahead of him. And he had, he was going to have to start atoning for his lifelong record of criminality and they were going to take all of his precious money away from him and recompensate his victims. So I can see why he would commit suicide. But it's funny how he got away with committing suicide. That's what I don't understand. And Cash Patel is, it's, he's smart.

Megan Kelly (55:49)

So I'm gonna say he's analyzed the.

Jake Tapper (55:52)

Case and I said that when they appointed him, I said they don't understand how bright he is. And they don't understand. They went after him, tried to destroy him and like they did Tulsi Gabbert. She's also very bright. So he's closing down the FBI building. But it's, it's, I don't understand how it's only 50 years old and structurally unsafe, safe. Who built it? And then, you know, we've talked on this broadcast forever that they should relocate the FBI headquarters and get at least a third of the workforce out of Washington where the real hard criminals are not that they're not. Somebody wrote and said, victor, there's a lot of criminals are just not as violent as you think in Washington third of the country. Maybe so, but the point is that he's going to disperse that nexus that gave us in succession Robert Mueller, James Comey, Andrew McKay and Christopher Wray with little cherry on top, desserts of stroke page, Kevin Klein Smith, etc. What a, what a character. What a cast of characters destroyed the FBI.

Megan Kelly (56:58)

And the last thing in the news before I get to some comments on your articles and podcasts. Bill Maher seems to be trying to tell the, the, the Democratic Party to get beyond their caricature of Maga as somehow very stupid and very racist. As we saw with Tom Hanks caricature on Saturday Night Live. Bill May said that that that caricature of MAGA is a he. His words were zombie lie. He's telling the Democratic Party. You need to figure out that that's not the only type of person lie.

Jake Tapper (57:34)

The polls show it's a lie. I wish Tom Hanks would come to the south western Fresno county and talk to the Hispanic community and ask them who has done more for you, Donald Trump or Joe Biden. He'd be, he'd be surprised at the answer. But then again they don't live in Malibu or wherever he lives. So these people are totally, you know, I just watching all this Robert De Niro, God, he can't finish a sentence without full of hatred and vitriol. Then we've got Bruce Springsteen who's he's worth a billion dollars. So he puts on working class clothes, he plays as if he's a working class person and then he just. I don't mind if he's left wing. I don't mind if he endorses Kamala Harris. I like his songs, I always have. But this going overseas and then telling everybody that this guy's a dictator and destroyed America and then Losing. All of them have lost their mind and it's because they're impotent and no one listens to them and they think they should have authority and influence because they're so sanctimonious, self righteous and narcissistic and nobody cares anymore. They really don't. And they, I think the biggest anger is they're afraid that it's all going to work. Trump is going to be successful and help the country and they just can't stomach that.

Megan Kelly (58:53)

They can't because they've been his worst critics and they want to be sure that they're right.

Jake Tapper (58:58)

Look at all the Wall Street Journal and all the bankers and all our geniuses, the best and the brightest. They told us the whole month of March that we were in a recession basically and Trump had tanked the, the entire stock market and we were never going to recover. Now we're right back to where he was on January 10th or 12th and we've got $10 trillion supposedly of foreign investment and all the indicators are to going good and yet Moody's downgraded them.

Megan Kelly (59:24)

All right, so I have some comments to finish off the show here from Billy Miles Seal and this was on your website and I think you had an article about the moving the FBI. It's. And he says I think the FBI has been corrupt from the beginning when J. Edgar Hoover was director. I'm kind of there with him. I think there was a lot of corruption in.

Jake Tapper (59:48)

But it was, I guess it was, it, you know, I can't. It wasn't necessarily political like it was J. Edgar Hoover. Basically whoever the president was, they called him in and he opened a file on him and said here's what you did. And then they said okay, you're here. That's how it was. Corrupt.

Megan Kelly (60:06)

And then just to continue with Billy's note here, perhaps the frontline agents are not corrupt but only those with a tendency to corruption are promoted until the top levels have been distilled to pure evil. I pray for Cash Patel and Dan Bongino. Thank you Billy. That was.

Jake Tapper (60:27)

They're both very bright. That's what the thing on the left doesn't understand. They think that anybody who's right wing is stupid and anybody who doesn't have degrees from their universities are stupid. I can tell you being in their universities my whole life and, and visiting them, I have not met a more mediocre group of people than the profess area. Boy, if I wanted to ruin this house right here, this 150, I would call in 10 professors and I say, could you please rewire it? Or you know what? I have a leak in the septic system. Could you go fix it?

Megan Kelly (61:05)

Not.

Jake Tapper (61:06)

Maybe I need to change these light bulbs to a more efficient. Can you do that?

Megan Kelly (61:11)

All right, let's turn to our YouTube commenters. And this represents. I read lots of them today, and this rep. Is representative, and they're both very short. One is from JunkGirl25005, and she says, I look for a new VDH video several times a day. You're the best. Signed a former Democrat.

Jake Tapper (61:37)

Oh, thank you. That's. That's important. You know, I just said something about professors. I had a professor say this to me. So he said this. I was driving by, and I saw a tractor parked with a big implement that had round circle. I said, that's a tandem disc or, you know, offset disc. So he said, but I have a question for you. How do they back up? They all have to go. They kind of just have to park, and then they just have to go straight, don't they? And I said, now, what do you mean? He said, well, if they back up, they would. The disc would. Would slow him down and it would dig in. And I said, do you think anybody ever invented a hydraulic lift that it would. He said, what do you mean? I said, maybe it would lift the disc up and then it would drop it when it needed to disc. And I said, I think that's a carryover from the horse days. You think when they hitched a horse, the horse had to backpedal? Maybe they unhitched him or something. I don't know. And that was an academic, so I.

Megan Kelly (62:34)

Think thought, oh, my gosh. And here is from Reaction. I hope I got his spelling pronounced right. Reaction. Morning, Victor. And hot coffee. Life is good. Have a great weekend, everyone.

Jake Tapper (62:52)

It's nice.

Megan Kelly (62:54)

So your listeners are very happy on YouTube, and we're happy to have every one of you. Thank you for joining us. Us. Thank you. Victor. What a great.

Jake Tapper (63:02)

Thank you for all the recommendations on sinus relief. I must have had 50 of them, and I've tried all of them. Steam, iodine, colloidal, silver, probi. I put probiotics, and it worked great for three days, and now it's. It's worse.

Megan Kelly (63:20)

It's torturing you.

Jake Tapper (63:21)

Yeah. I had the worst pain I had in three months, but I'm trying everything. But I have. I think I have a surgery date. Yes, the doctor's gonna call me. Me and finally got a date, because.

Megan Kelly (63:31)

They'Re very back, and I would like to thank you just like Jack did that it's great to work for this show, especially today. I was reminded of that as I listened to Marco Rubio all morning or for a good portion of the morning and his responses to the senators. That was awesome. I highly recommend it for anybody who likes good sport.

Jake Tapper (63:54)

They don't take anything Cash Patel doesn't take anything off anybody. And neither does Tulsi Gabber.

Megan Kelly (64:00)

And very polite. And they get. They get cut off by the senators and they just.

Jake Tapper (64:05)

RFK came a close second when Patty Murray, that relic senator from Washington started to attack him about all the things and he said, you've. You've done more to destroy health care in the United States.

Megan Kelly (64:20)

Yeah. What did I. I was watching that he said that you've done nothing to solve chronic. Chronic illness. Yeah. He says, what has she done? What has Senator Murray done about the epidemic of chronic disease?

Jake Tapper (64:35)

Well, you know what? I do say one thing, though. It is true we spend the most money per capita and we don't have. Our longevity is behind Europe and average in Japan. But a pointed person wrote me and I'm always trying to read email and text and they pointed out we have a record 55 million people who were not born in the United States. And most of them come from impoverished countries with enormous health problems. Many of them are the obesity rates of. He pointed out the obesity rates of many of the countries that people come from are higher than our own. Even so we have. People don't remember. Don't. I hadn't really calculated that. That you. When you have, you know, one seventh of the country that are not born here and they come as an adult or young person and they're coming from places that don't have a lot of investment in health care, then you do. That might account for some of it.

Megan Kelly (65:33)

Definitely. Well, thank you, Victor. Thanks to our audience. This is Sammy Wink and Victor Davis Hansen and we're signing off.

Jake Tapper (65:39)

Thank you everybody. Much appreciated for watching and listening.

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