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Victor Davis Hanson
Customers hello and welcome to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. This is our Saturday edition where we look at something a little bit different in our middle section this week. Victor is looking at 1944 in World War II and we'll learn about ending the war with both the Nazis and the Japanese. Not completely, but almost. And, and then we'll also look at some news stories in our first segment. And we've still got the LA riots going on, so we'll get an update on those. And then Greta goes to Gaza and assassination attempts in South American presidencies or candidates for those presidencies. So we want to take a moment for that. We're going a little international this Saturday, so stay with us and we'll be right back with those stories.
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Victor Davis Hanson
Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen Show. Victor is the Martin and Neely Anderson Senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and Elena Marshabusky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. You can find him at his website victorhanson.com the name of the website is the Blade of Perseus and we'd love everybody to come join us there. There's lots of free stuff and then maybe you might want to subscribe for 650amonth or $65 a year to VDH Ultra Material, two articles a week from Victor and a short video on Fridays. So please come join us there. So, Victor, I know that we need a little update. All the news is on the LA riots. And what I wanted to ask was, so Trump has sent his Homeland Security, obviously, 700 Marines, 2000 National Guard. And I was wondering, in addition to whatever else you want to say, how's Trump doing? How's this response?
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Well, I mean, he, he had a press conference this morning and he handled himself very well. He said, I'm sensitive because in 2020, I begged and begged and begged, incompetent mayors, governors, governors like Tim Waltz. He didn't call, he didn't bring in the National Guard for seven days. So I had to act belatedly. And then I got criticized. This time, I'm taking no chances. And he mentioned that the LA is going to be the scene of the Olympics. It's bad press and it was not nonviolent. It was violent from the beginning. There were people, as Trump pointed out, that were handing out expensive bioshields, helmets, all sorts of riot gears, I don't know. And the signs were pre printed, most of them. So he went through all of that. There were all these side issues. Maxine Waters, who is completely unhinged, tried to break her way in to see the SEIU union head who was in ICE detention. And she just said, I'm a congressman, congresswoman, as if she can do anything. And they said, no, you can't. And she's, I think. And then the police chief, remember that he had that morose face in the initial, when it first started, when Karen Voss surrounded and kind of ritually embarrassed law enforcement by saying, this will not stand. And they're looking, hey, this is getting violent. And so Trump likes the chief. But as I pointed out in an earlier Daily Signal video, LAPD didn't quite react as quickly as they might have. They did. Now they're on board. What's the sum total of all this? The sum total is the entire left wing narrative has collapsed. The narrative is that there was just a lot of peaceful people walking around and then these vicious Gestapo people snatched them. And then people who were legitimate working and wants to go, they took some time off work for a peaceful protest. There was no cars. They were not calling automatically driven cars to have them assemble to blow them up. They were not blowing up people's cars. They were not throwing rocks at cars. They were not attacking highway patrol vehicles. They were not spitting in people's faces. They were not burning American flags. They were not failing to disperse. They were not taking over 101. That's what they were doing. And so the left, it was like the 2020 optics where somebody said mostly peaceful demonstrations and flames were going up. There was a good scene on CNN or MSNBC where they said the same thing and there was a car on fire. So I think that the left now. And what do I mean by the left? I'm talking about Representative Torres who said, get the F out. Ice of my. You know. And then Karen Bass, we won't stand for this. And then Gavin Newsom, this is chaotic. This is rec. Then a lot of really weird stuff. He said, hey, Tom Holman, come and get me. Kind of rugged. Just a punk punking him. And then we had his tip with the Treasury Secretary, Scott Bessant. We're not going to. We might just withhold federal taxes because we pay 80 billion more than we get in services from the federal government. I thought he was Jefferson Davis, maybe. And then he said, and that pays the federal government's bills. Come on, Gavin, it's one little over 1% of all federal revenues. Why don't you just realize that you're polling 27%, 2% want you to be the nominee. You're going nowhere and you're blowing up what was left of your viability politically. You're going to be termed out. What are you going to do? Because people are looking at you. And this comes on the heels of the fire in Los Angeles when you couldn't say a word about Karen Bass junketing or the deputy mayor phoning in bomb threats, or the head of Water and Power has no idea why the reservoir is dry, or the fire chief who was fired talking about diy, whether it's hydrant's dry or why you wouldn't let people clean up their hills of fuel for the fire. So it's just a one, two punch. And Gavin Newsom is in big trouble. The biggest trouble, though, is the whole illegal immigrant deportation. Because there was a CBS poll that showed that 54% still want deportation. That rises to 75% when they're told they're violent, criminal. Then they said they were just sweeping people off the street. They went into an employer who was trying to create an illegal alien workforce. And among the people that they arrested, they were, you know, charged with assault, charged with attempted murder. There were some terrible people. And so as that all gets out, the left then looks ridiculous. And now what they're doing, they're not only getting money from these ngo, nonprofit left wing that are, by the way, we're paying it for it in California, $45 million in taxpayers money. But they're not only getting riot gear to hand out to people, now they're handing out American flags because they're thinking somebody called up and said, hey, I'm a US Senator, I'm supporting you. I like what you're doing, but you're making it impossible. I got an election coming up in November. What is this? So, you know, suppress the Mexican flag. There's also an existential question. I mentioned it on Laura Ingraham the other night. I mentioned this 20 years ago in California, I had a student and he was waving the Mexican flag during the controversy over Prop 187 and they were burning the American flag on the Cal State campus. So I said to him, why are you waving the flag? Under no circumstances of the country, under no circumstances you want to go back and you're burning the flag of the country that you say you want to stay in even though you're here illegally. And he couldn't answer that. And so it was so weird to see these people spitting on the American flag and burning it and then Mexican flags everywhere. And so is it confusion or do they think all these Mexican flags say that LA is now part of Mexico and they are trying to remind everybody?
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That would be what I would think. These people actually think they're in Mexico.
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What they're trying to do is look at the illogical emotional response and see if there's a logic to it. So if that's true, all these young people that are either here illegally are the children of people who came illegally for the most part. Maybe they were parents, were legal, maybe they were legal. But they may all had one thing in common. They said that Mexico was not for them. So they come over to a different paradigm, completely different. Its history is completely different. This is not Spanish Catholic conquistador colonization. Remember, the Spanish crown would not let anybody unless they were Catholic and Spanish go into their colonies. And the vast majority were males. North America, Canada and the United States were largely Protestant from the British Isles and then Western Europe. And from the very beginning it was mostly a what the left calls settler, not conquistadors. It was families, Plymouth Rock. So it was a very different paradigm. So they're saying that we left our paradigm because we wanted your paradigm and now we've got a million illegals and it's our paradigm. But why would you wave the flag then if you don't like that paradigm? So carry the logic a little farther, further. So now we have our Mexican flag and we've created a virtual Mexico in Los Angeles, Then somebody's gonna say, but that's why we left. So I'm leaving LA to San Francisco. And you're gonna say, well, we're gonna go and wave Mexican flags and do it. Then I'll go to Oregon. You see what I mean? It's totally incoherent. Then you had President Sheinbaum. God, doesn't she have anybody with a brain in Mexico advising her? So the first thing she said, these are our people and we're going to weigh in, we're going to provide them legal counsel. President Sheinbaum, if Americans are burning the Mexican flag in downtown Mexico City and they're protesting, waving Old Glory, first of all, your biggest problem would be restraining Mexican citizens would try to kill them. They would have no rights. You would jail them. And then if Donald Trump said to you, we're protecting our people in your country, we're going to come in and give them what you think you would do. Now, I think I know what you think the United States response will be. Do you realize there's a bill in Congress right now, President John Bomb? It has a lot of issues related to you. Finish the wall. 10,000 more Border Patrol and tax remittances, and they're arguing about the percent. 2.5% to 3.5%. You get 63 billion. Central America, 60 billion. I will bet my life that we will hear somebody immediately say, that's too little. If Mexico is interfering in our aff, and these people who are burning Los Angeles and assaulting people are on any federal or state, health, housing, food, education, legal subsidy to free up money to send back to Mexico because Mexico either cannot or will not take care of its own needy, then that's not sustainable, and we're going to up that. So I would suspect that this big, beautiful bill will have an element of 10% or 15% that will cost her her big mouth about $10 billion if that should happen. The second thing, President, you are deliberately allowing China to fabricate, assemble telephones, computers, cells, cars, equipment in your country to evade a tariff. You're running up $171 billion. Do you really think with that surplus, that you are colluding, if I could use that term, with the Chinese? Do you think Donald Trump's not going to be angry about your activity and your interference into the internal affairs of the United States? You also have cartels, and they have been making about $20 billion killing Americans. So I think people are so angry. Remember the polls? It's 54. I would give you another Poll the people that you are aligned with. If you look at the popularity of Mayor Karen Bass, it's in the. If you look at Gavin Newsom's popularity, surveymonkey says the last 30 polls show him at 27%. Another poll shows that 2% of the Democratic Party want him as their nominee. However, there's two polls, as I said, 54% want deportations, but this is, I think 75% want deportations immediately of anybody convicted of a crime. But when you look at polls of relations with you, you being Mexico and the United States, they have crashed. You're down to about 33% of the American people. And most importantly, on the first hundred days of Donald Trump, there was a poll and they asked each specific group by gender and race, what's your sense of Donald Trump's first hundred days? It was positive. But Hispanics were 62%. So to whom are you trying to appeal? To the illegal aliens that may be the more dominant and burning. I don't know why people are not at work. How can you do this for two or three days, work days and not be at work or Mexican American citizens? Because I have a feeling that they have no sympathy with you or Mexico and they're very happy in America as American citizens and they don't like people expropriating the Mexican flag and acting as if they speak to them. So all these Mexican American and Central American left wing representatives, maybe you'll say, well Victor, somebody voted in them. Yes, but I have a feeling that they don't represent the majority of Mexican American citizens. We'll see.
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We'll see. Let's hope you're right, Victor. Well, let's welcome back to our Show a sponsor, OpenPhone. OpenPhone is the number one business phone system that streamlines and scales your customer communications. It works through an app on your phone or computer. So no more carrying two phones or using a landline. With OpenPhone your team can share one number and collaborate on customer calls and texts like a shared inbox. That way any teammate can pick up right where the last person left off, keeping response times faster than ever. OpenPhone is a no brainer. See why over 50,000 businesses trust OpenPhone to manage their business calls and texts. OpenPhone is offering my listeners 20% off your first six months at openphone.com Victor that's O P E N P-H-O-N-E.com Victor and if you have existing numbers with another service, OpenPhone will port them over at no extra charge. OpenPhone. No missed calls, no Missed customers. And we'd like to thank OpenPhone for sponsoring the Victor Davis Hansen show. So Victor, let's move on to international things. And I thought maybe we would start. It's kind of a little bit comical but with Greta Thunberg and she has gone to Gaza and she is now on a plane back to. I think she's in the Netherlands, but she is Swedish. Victor, not to disparage her.
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I'm hoping you weren't going to mention that. I'm embarrassed. I can tell you right now, everybody that if there were a bunch of Swedish American left wing radicals like her and they had come into the United States illegally and they were burning and doing things and waving this Swedish flag, you think I would have one iota of solidarity with them? No, I would be out on the streets saying deport them. I would say, I would wear Viking horns and say go full Viking on them. Get rid of them. We don't want them here. We don't want ingratitude. Come over here from Sweden and then. But she's of course not in the United States. She's 22 years old and she got on this little boat. I guess it was kind of a rigged sailboat. It had a motor but it looked like it was clean energy.
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Didn't she call it the Freedom Flotilla or something like that?
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I think the idea was to have sails that you can theory could use so you wouldn't be burning and destroying the planet to get to Gaza. So they were going to get to Gaza and then they thought they were going to be the heartthrobs international media. But then the Israelis intercepted them and basically gave them a choice. You can be detained in Israel or we'll send you home. Poor little Greta got to go home on coach. And she was a little tiny, she's very diminutive. She was in that seat all by herself, looked kind of nice. There wasn't anybody around her. She looks like she's got a good deal and probably got a free ticket home. I don't know what she thinks she accomplished. The Israelis said, if you stay here, we're going to show you the actual documentary evidence. A long film of October 7th. And that would entail beheading people, torturing them, decapitating them, burning them alive, raping. And Greta said, no, I don't want to see that. It's propaganda. So she refused to see it. So they said, here's your one way ticket, don't come back.
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It shows how removed from reality she is, you know what I mean? Oh, that's propaganda. No, those things really happen, Greta.
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That's typical of the left. They don't. They don't want any. It's like the LA riots. They keep saying somebody gave them the talking points. NBC, all of them say, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, peaceful. And you think, what are all these cars burning up? The only funny thing about was this guy, totally incompetent. He takes a big gas can and I guess a hot engine, and he pours it around and he's acting really smart. And the other guy thinks, well, I'll light it. And I don't think he's ever been around autos because the whole thing blew up in his face. And he was lucky he didn't blow up everybody. But that's another sign of an incompetence. There were some celebrities out there, too, that wanted to get their smell of tear gas in the air. But it was pretty pathetic. And all these things on the left were pathetic. You know, at some point, I was thinking, when I was watching everybody saying, this is peaceful, as everything was taking over freeways and hitting policemen and lighting cars. And one guy had a hammer and he was just breaking all the windows and those big, heavy glass windows in the police precinct. Another guy was taking a hammer and hitting parts of the building to break up, rocks to throw. And I thought. And they're still lying and saying it. I thought, wow, think about it. We had Trayvon Martin, that he was just this young little tweet, long, strappy little kid that happened to be wandering around when George Floyd came up and murdered him when he was. I don't need to get into it. And we had Jussie Smollett, that Kamala Harris, oh, this is terrible. And he paid two people to slightly beat him up and, you know, charge white people with white. And then we had the Duke lacrosse. Remember that? Follow those. They raped this poor black woman. And then she admitted that was false later. Then we had the lacrosse, the Covington kids that were berating a Native American, Vietnam veteran, combat veteran. Remember that? A guy had never been to Vietnam during the war, and he started and staged the whole thing. And I can go back even further to Al Sharpton and Tawana Brawley and that whole bit. It's just. And then we can go into Russian collusion, laptop disinformation. They never. They never stop. They never say, okay, we're lying. We got to stop this because we've destroyed. Instead, they said, we caused a lot of chaos and we took a lot of time out of their schedule, and that's Good, because we are morally superior and he means necessary or justified. So we don't care if they're true or fabricated. Nobody ever apologized. Kamala Harris said, I'm so sorry. What? Just juicy. Did he misled me? No.
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It seems there are. The Democrats are incapable of legislation, and so they're hoping that this mass rioting, mass disturbance on the part of Amarl is going to do something for them.
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Why are they incapable? Because they have a. Nobody wants what they would do.
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Yes, that. And then just incapable. Look at how the dnc. Remember that scene where they were trying to decide how to vote and. And they start saying, well, you have to do this and that with this intersectional.
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When they elected David Hogg, the guy that won, he was an obscure Minnesota. For 13 years, head of the Minnesota Democratic Party was named David. They leaked this sport. He, you know, David Hogg has been all over the airwaves. We gotta get a new party. And he wants to get all these radical leftists that will win the primaries. He knows one thing, that all the tech money and all the big money is on the hard line in that party. And he knows that young people will come out to vote, and he knows they can win primaries, but he also knows they'll lose the general election and they have no issues they can run on because they're all 2080 issues. So then the chairman, it was like, he's supposed to be a dynamic Napoleonic tough guy, you know, a young James Carville or something. He goes, then you must know that I am trying so hard and trying to raise money as my job commands me to. And then you just kind of become very well known and nobody knows who I am. I can't do my job. I thought, who's worse, David Hogg or this simpering critter that can't get a backbone? Why don't you say, listen, you sob, I'm not cussing on Mike, but he could say, you blank, blank, blank, blank, you punk. You're 25 years old. I've been in this business and this is what we're going to do. But he can't. Yeah, but that's like saying Chuck Schumer's going to go to AOC and goes, you're a joke and he's not.
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So are you trying to tell me that in addition to their inability to pass policy and the cacophony of their general party structure, they have absolutely no leadership?
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They have no leadership and they don't know. That was why Joe Biden squared that circle. That was a Brilliant thing they did. They got this old decrepit. It moderate. He wasn't a moderate, but he was an empty vessel, wax and effigy. And they put him there by design. Jim Clyburn was one of the architects of it. They got all the nutty people out. They got Spartacus out. They got Buttigieg out. They got Warren out. They got crazy Bernie Sanders out. They got the Castro brother or one of him out. They got every nut they could out. Then Joseph, I'm just talking about. It's Covid. I can't do anything. I'm going to stay in my basement. Hey, make up my basement like it's an office. And he just stayed there. And then they outsourced it. And then these leftists came in and they just caused havoc. And then the old guys came in and said, hey, we have a midterm coming up. So this is what's going to happen. All you guys have to keep your blank mouth shut for 90 days. You let the old insiders. And they said, okay. So they said, joe, go drain the petroleum reserve. Joe, go over to Saudi Arabia and say you didn't mean it, please, please, and go down to Venezuela and go over to Iran. Or basically tell them, please, please, please, Joe, you got to cancel that student loan money. But the Supreme Court, the Supreme. Forget the Supreme Court. Just brag that you're going to go around it. And he did. And hey, Joe, you've got to do some amnesty for marijuana. And then they called in Mallorca. Say, you idiot, now we're bleeding on the. I like what you did. We got more constituents, we got more welfare recipients, but we got this midterm 2020, we got the general. So can you kind of go through tough border talk and then right before the general election, we'll start to close the border. And that's exactly how they operate. Anybody who didn't see it can't believe that people voted for that.
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All right, Victor, so let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and we'll hear your take on 1944, World War II. Stay with us and we'll be right back.
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Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen show. Be sure to know that you can find Victor on social media. His X handle is and his Facebook page is Hanson's Morning Cup. So please come join him there. Well, Victor, allies are coming near the end of their war, but I'm sure they had some stumbling blocks in 1944. So I'd like to hear about them.
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Well, but I'll just say one thing. I remember that Donald Trump, they asked him about Gavin Newsom. I like the way Trump just matter of factly says something that could even either be termed childish or outrageous or true. True. So they said, how about what's your relationship with Gavin Newsom? He's a nice guy. Everybody knows he's utterly incompetent. Utterly incompetent. No other politician would say that, but it's true.
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I think he said before that I like Gavin Newsom, that he's utterly incompetent.
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Yeah. So 1944 is, we talked to 43 was that critical period at El Alamein at the battle of Kursk where the Russian juggernauts stopped the German. After Kursk, July 1943, the Wehrmacht was not capable of a sustained offensive. And we talked about the Americans then had met with Montgomery in North Africa and they had a quarter million prisoners larger than Stalingrad surrender. North Africa is clear. They had taken Sicily is clear. And their star in they invaded Rome and now they're stuck in Italy. 1944 and the British army is going on the inside and the Americans down the outside of the Japanese on their way to meet in Austria and they're never going to get there. Italy is going to be a debacle and that's going on in 1944. The Americans are starting to learn in mid-1944 after the disasters of 43, they that if they have P47s or P51s that are coming out, fighter escort. And they not always do precision bombing, but they do area bombing like the British. They allow the fighters to detach from the bombers. They're getting better results. They're still not there. The Battle of the Atlantic is pretty much over now. The submarines have lost. They can't stop the convoys either to Russia from Britain and the United States or from North America to Britain. So what's the big thing happening? Big thing happening is D Day, which is going to be June 6, and roughly 180,000 people are going to land there. They're going to be trapped for about a month and they're going to break out. By August they're going to be in Paris and most of France will be liberated. That is very, very important because that means that American and British fighter bases can be moved eastward three to 400 miles. And Germans will not be able to be in range of hurting London or attacking bombers as they go over the Channel. So suddenly after D Day, you start to see dramatic increases in the efficacy and the ability of fighters not to sustain losses. And they're going to inflict a lot of losses on the. On the Luftwaffe. There's. And so that's going on. The only thing in the Eastern theater that. Excuse me, there's three theaters. But in the Western the happened. The Mediterranean is secure. There's no problem getting oil through the Suez. The Atlantic is now secure. There's no German surface ships. There's no submarines to worry about. The Americans are now in France and they're moving westward with the British and the Canadians. And they've got over a million men. They have complete air supremacy because of the Typhoon and Spitfire fighters and the Thunderbolts and Mustangs. They are as good or better than anything the Germans will have until the Mishr Schmidt 262 jet. But there's just some things that are bothering them. In July they have a pulse jet. It's a buzz bomb cruise missile. And they're not very accurate, but they have a wallop. Fifteen hundred pounds, a thousand to fifteen hundred pounds. And they go about 350 to 400 miles an hour. And the gyroscope, they cut off the engine and they don't know how to stop it. They can shoot them down maybe with planes. They don't know when they're coming. 22,000 British citizens are going to be wounded or killed when they start to. After D Day, they're going in there and they're looking around Brussels and Belgium and areas where these things are launched by August, September, they're launching a ballistic missile 5000 and you can't stop the V2. And that has 2000 pounds of. And that causes another round of death. So it's not so easy. At the same time, the Russians have been going eastward and as the Americans land in D Day Operation Bagration, they have taken Crimea, they have taken back Sevastopol, they are now in Romania and they've made up about 5. The lines in the Eastern Front did not change much from June, excuse me, from December of 1941 all the way to January, February of 1944. Now they're fluid as the Germans are starting to crack. And so the idea is the Americans will continue bombing and advance and the Germans will have to go back and forth with divisions from Russia to the Western Front, Western Front to Russia. And what happens is the Americans and British and Canadians are moving faster per day than the Russians are. So there's a fear they're going to come into Germany, at least across the Rhine, before the Russians will get into East Germany. And so what's going to happen at the end of 1944? They are going to start to see some battle hard divisions, some of the best divisions in the world, they being the Allies and everybody knows the difference between exterior and interior lines. As the German Empire collapses, it's easier to put troops back and forth on trains. They have less territory to cover. They're near their logistics. The lines of the Americans are going 800-900-miles and they have the Red Ball Express. They have to drive trucks full of gasoline cans and they need half of them to power the truck to get there and get back. So it's slowing down. The other thing is they have decided in Tehran that they're going not to ask for an armistice or they want an unconditional surrender. That makes that defeating the German army in the field is much different than invading and taking over every square inch of Germany and throwing out all of the Nazis. That's going to cost hundreds of thousands of lives. More if you go to the Pacific theater. It's wide open now. The Americans have had and the British have three areas that they've divided up. The British, because they're worried about India, have been mostly responsible for Burma, flying the hump over the Himalayas to get supplies into China. They have now taken control of Burma. But the Japanese have, in their yogo offensive, have threatened India. So the British are tied down still. MacArthur is now approaching the Philippines. He's gone Operation Cartwheel around New guinea and he is going to invade the Philippines. That's going to be a nasty fight in Manila. And then to get back all of Corregidor and Bataan and all of the other islands, Lutza, then there's going to be these fantastic, I don't mean fantastic and I should say gargantua battles. The great Marianas turkey shoot, where all the Japanese carriers now, eight to 10 of them are going to come out finally and challenge the Americans over the Marianas and then over the Leyte, Leyte Gulf. These are the two biggest naval battles in history. And when they're all done, the Japanese fleet is destroyed and all of their naval pilots are dead basically. And most of their new generation planes are shot down. And they unleash the Hellcat fighter and it just decimates Japanese aircraft around the Marianas. And the idea is they look at a map in the Marianas, I'm talking about Guam, Tiny and Saipan are 1600 miles to Japan. And they can be supplied by sea, not overland, much cheaper because now you have absolute maritime supremacy. And so the idea is you're going to build these 8 to 10,000 foot coral runways on all three islands. And this new bomber that can go 1600 miles one way, it has just about 100 mile leeway. You take off from Saipan, Tenan or Guam, you fly eight hours average to 240 miles an hour and then you're over Japan for about 10 minutes, 15 minutes and you, you hit Kobe, you hit Tokyo, of course, you hit bases, you mine the harbors of South Korea. They can do a lot. Then you have to fly back. So that is part of it. Part of the air power was to take island and the big two will be they'll have to take the Philippines. But on the horizon they've got to go in February into Iwo Jima, because that's halfway between the Marianas and the mainland. And the B29s are starting to hemorrhage, they have mechanical problems, they're being shot down. So if they can land halfway at Iwo Jima, refuel, save crews, so they, and that's a horrific battle. And then what we're going to see on 45 is Okinawa. The tragedy about all these wars when you're fighting is that last 12 month period from August 1944 to August, September 1945, that is where the most casualties per day are going to be inflicted on the Allies. So it's the worst period of the entire war. So the British are trying to break into China, the Japanese are trying to pull out of China. They have 7 million troops on the mainland. They have ability to get 20. They have the ability to get 20 million civilian troops. Everybody's going to look at what happens at Okinawa from April to July of 1945. And so the big question the next year is we're going to have to get inside Germany and we're going to have to get inside Japan and grab Tojo and Hitler by the neck and defeat these people. One of them will be done without that because of air power, but the other one will be done with partnership with the Russia. But that's the downside either way, because if you want to go in to Germany and destroy Nazism, then you're dealing with Joseph Stalin and he has territorial ambitions in Eastern Europe and he is just bad as Hitler. And if you want to go into Japan, it's going to be a bloodbath. And if you don't want to go in Japan, given Japanese militarism, you're going to have to inflict a degree of damage from the air by firebombing and the atomic bombs. It's going to be very controversial.
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I have a couple of questions before we go to our break to what I want. I'm kind of wondering about the truth behind the statement that Germany's army started to be reduced to boys and old men because you were saying they had to go back and forth between the Eastern and Western front, it was a shorter distance from their supply line, et cetera. But to what extent were they relying on troops that were super young or.
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Old men that started in late 1944, they are going to lose about three and a half to four million soldiers. Germany, the German empire at the start of the war, including the Jan schluss with Austria, etc. Was about 80, 81 million people. And so I'll give you an example of mobilization. The United states has about 150, 140 to 150 million. We've mobilized 12 million. Russia has about 220 million. They mobilize about 12 million. What I mean is, at any given time, that's a size, but they're going to lose 20 million. Germany is half that, roughly less than half. And they try to recruit Dutch Nazis and they get Spanish, the Blue Legion to go to Russia. They get Italy, but they don't. They're not successful. So most of the time they have a pool of 18 to 30 year olds of about 6 to 8 million. And almost half of them are dead. And so what Hitler won't do and he should do, he should pull troops from areas that are indefensible and irrelevant. So he should shut down all the Navy. The Tirpitz and the surface ships will be sunk. They're in fjords in the north. The U boat thing is over with. It's not going to, I mean, they're getting sophisticated U boats with snorkels, long, long range batteries. But it's not going to change the war. And Werner Braun, Braun's V2 is not going to change. It's a very inefficient way to deliver a pound of dynamite, base of explosives. But what he does is he keeps like 20,000 troops in Norway. He keeps troops. He still, he should just vacate Italy. He's still got troops in Italy and he's fighting Italians and Americans and he should have made a. He's got, he will have a quarter million Germans holed up in the Atlantic ports at places like Brest, Lahore, Calais, New Rochelle, and they're in fortresses. And he thinks this is brilliant because it's going to tie down the Allies. But Eisenhower and Patton just say, well, they're going to blow it up anyway. They did with Brest and they're going to do it with every port. And we still have the beaches. We have one Mulberry and we'll get Antwerp eventually. That was. Montgomery screwed up and the point he's making is to just bypass them. So he's got a quarter million troops and they're of no value. So yes, they're running out of troops because they've lost 3 to 5 million people. They have a lot of people back home. So if you're a crew, an 88 millimeter crew on the Eastern Front and you're blowing apart T34 tanks at a mile and a half, two miles, and you're giving the Tigers and Panthers protection and suddenly you get a call and saying the 8th Air Force is bombing all of German cities. You bring that battalion back because we need the 88 millimeter to point its gun straight up as a flak gun. They have draw 10,088 millimeter groups just to protect the skies of Germany. And Stalin will give us no credit for that. But once we start to do that and once Germany starts to run out of manpower, then it starts to accelerate. At the end of 1940, after the battle of the Bulge, I just want to finish on one thing, and that is December 1st, second week in December, Hitler's intelligence says that there are two green divisions and everybody in the Ardennes as they're approaching the Rhine area, and it's cold and they're not trained, and Germany still has about a million frontline troops, and he can secretly withdraw them from the eastern. And he can go in complete radio silence. And the weather is predicted to be snowy and cloudy and rainy. No Allied air power, no information about what Germans. Germans start doing everything by notes and messengers. And they surprise the Allies. They break right through these two green divisions, and their plan is to go all the way to Antwerp and cut the British off like they did in World War I and tried to in World War I. And what they did in 1940 when they did cut the British in the America, and then keep those two armies separate. And if they were to have a surprise, maybe they would have numerical parity in certain areas and they couldn't be enforced. And then they could get to Antwerp and blow up the harbor, steal all the goods, steal the oil, American supplies, blow up the big port that the Allies. And for the first week, it looks like that's going to happen. They go anywhere from 40 to 60 miles inland and retake Belgian towns. And then, of course, George Patton is told to cut off the Bulge. And he says, let me go straight to the base of the Bulge, and while they're going east, I will go straight north and cut it off. And then they'll be encircling circle. And that would have saved everybody. But they said, if you do that, they're going to go another. The balloon. If you cut the balloon off, they're still going to have enough air to go another five or 10 miles. And we can't do. We can't allow that because they're taking areas that we promised would never be retaken. They nix that. So he goes up to Bastogne, saves Bastogne. But then for the next fall of January, they have to push the Bulge back. And they lose more dead, wounds, wounded, pushing the Bulge back to the Rhine than they did in the initial fighting. That's one of the greatest tragedies of the war, that they did not allow Patton to try to slice the Bulge off its face. So then in January, the Germans are back where they were in February. And then they have about a month and a half where the Allies are trying to push, push, push to the Rhine river and find a bridge or bridge it themselves. And they are going to pay a terrible price. They're going to get in when they get across, and earlier they're going to get into forest, type of fighting, deep forest. They're going to meet generals like General Model, Modo and they're going to lose a lot of troops.
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One last thing I always wondered about this Mariana, Great Mariana, Turkey shoot. How much damage did it do to the Japanese military? And is this when the Japanese are deciding to have kamikaze bombers?
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This is the first time that they start to see kamikazes and they're very worried about it for a variety of reasons. They start and it inflicts a lot of damage. It's not going to be like Okinawa where they sink 17 ships and kill 5,000 sailors. But when you start to. When that, when Nimitz and Halsey and Struance and everybody started to look at. They were able to shoot most of them down. But they started to look at certain things apart that start to worry them. First of all, they have all these Zeros that were preeminent from 1939-42, but now they're obsolete. And they have new fighters, but not the radiant and new ones that are about comparable with a helicopter, but they haven't come into. So they thought that these would be easy to shoot down. But now they're either coming right along, they either come in clouds en masse and they go straight down at a high speed or they go in right along above, under the radar, right above the waves, or they do both at the same time. Second thing they understand is if the Zero had a range, meaning that's the radius of about 700 miles, then they had to come back home. 700 miles. So they only had a total range of 1500. But if you're on a one way mission, you don't have to come home. So their range doubles so they can now reach the American flag from not just bases in Okinawa, but from the mainland. The next thing is, it's one thing to dive down on a carrier and drop a bomb. It's very hard to hit it when you're going 3 or 400 miles or slack. But if you are a suicide bomber, you are basically a cruise missile. And the pilot's life is the control system, his brain, and so he can maneuver everything. He doesn't have to drop the bomb. Got a 500 pound bomb, he just keeps it on the plane and all he has to do is find a way to go down. If you shoot him, you can't stop him. In the old days as he's coming in, you could shoot and get him off course and the bomb would miss. But now you've got to blow the whole thing up right as they come down. So it's a Cruise missile, only it's better than a cruise missile because the pilots can adjust. It's kind of like a modern day drone. And so it's got a double the range. And they all have their funerals before they take off. They have a ritual sake drink and they're escorted by sophisticated fighters and almost none of them turn back and they coordinate their and it's and they learn during the Marianas that this is going to be a terrible thing.
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All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then we'll come back and talk a little bit more about international politics, the Iran and Trump and then also the South American assassinations and assassination attempts of political and individual. So stay with us and we'll be right back.
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Welcome back to the Victor Davis Hansen show. You can find Victor's podcasts on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify and Apple these days. So I hope everybody is joining us there who like the video version. So Victor, I was wondering your thoughts. The recent thing in Iran is that the International Atomic Energy Agency has told us or let out I think a week or more ago that Iran has enough visible material or enriched uranium to build nine bombs. You know, does this change anything in what's going on?
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Everybody's arguing over the level of enrichment. They say they are up to 60% enrichment. But they have the ability to go to 90 in case of 10 or 12 bombs. And nobody knows whether they have done that yet. What's disturbing to the Israelis and us is that they keep finding areas that they didn't know about before from informants or. And so if the United States were to preempt or Israel was to preempt and hit their nuclear facilities, they wouldn't be sure that there's not three or four bombs. And because Ralph and Johnny is in the past, one of the prior prime ministers said it's a one bomb state. He had a point. I mean, the Iranians have been very macabre about that. They have said, we like the idea that half the Jews are in one state because it's a one bomb state, we can get rid of them. So Donald Trump keeps saying that he doesn't want to do this, it's going to be a terrible choice. But the Iranians are not going to give up their nuclear program. They look at what happened to Libya. Just to take one example, in 2006, Gaddafi had all these centrifuges. Nobody had the same discussion. He's crazy. If he has a bomb, what will we do? And then he gave it up because he was scared about what happened to Saddam. He gave up his nuclear program. I was in Libya in 2007 when I met Americans that were out looking for centrifuges and they were staying at a hotel owned by the Maltese. But my point is that once he gave up the nuclear card, Gaddafi was removed from power by the British and the French when they bombed it. And so my point is that Iran knows if they give up the nuclear thing completely, that some country we could get rid of them very quickly and their people could get rid of them very quickly. So they're not going to give it up. And that means, I think we have a rendezvous with a big decision sometime between August and October. And that will be. Donald Trump will exhaust every measure and then we'll see why he's doing this new 2.0 Iran deal given he trashed the original one. And his critics say that he's naive and he just wants to be a Nobel Prize winner. His supporters say no, he's got a magic. He's got to deal with the maga neo isolation. He wants to show them that he exhausted every diplomatic avenue and same thing with it. But one way or the other, if you think that it's an existential threat, then it's going to have to be taken out. And that's going to be done in the fall and that's going to cause a big rift here at home because the economy will be roaring, I think given all the investment tax cuts will be in and then you'll have a disruption in the world oil market once you start bombing, you don't know what's going to happen and the MAGA base. JD Van Stepper Carlson, Don J. All of those people have said they don't want this to happen and Israel one way or the other is going to be blamed because they'll say the Jews did it. It's not going to be, it's going to be a very volatile time this autumn.
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This Washington Free Beacon had a story that said that Iran is going to meet the Jacksonian in America. And that meant according to the story, that what would happen if I could extrapolate from what their position was is that they're going to hit them and they're going to hit them hard so they can have it quick and over with because that's how Jackson let's not get too involved. Let's just take out the problem as fast.
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If you were going to do it, people look to what the Israelis did with Saddam hussein's reactor in 19, I think it was 80 or 81 and what they did to Bashar Al Assad's nucle reactor and it was a clean sweep. There were no others. But this is different. And if you were going to do it, you're going to have to get a week to 10 days of diplomatic cover and you're going to have to have all your resources and you have to be on guard because if you start doing this and China goes into Taiwan or Russia starts to do another Kiev Thunder Road, you're going to be in big trouble because you're going to have to deal with multi crisis crises. But if you're going to do it, you're going to have to take everything out so that they don't recoup. And just for good measure, you're going to have to, it seems to me their missile defenses are being rebuilt. You're going to take all of them out again. You're going to have to take their seaports out, you're going to have to take all their airfields out. You're going to have to make sure that they are emasculated militarily. It could take two or three weeks and then you can imagine the domestic upheaval will hear what we see in la, the riots at least something like that because we know the left sympathizes with Iran, the Palestinians, Hamas, Hezbollah and they will have no shame in demonstrating on behalf of a wicked theocracy that's attacked by it.
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Charismatic guy, serious bolon sorrow had been stabbed, remember during his campaign. Campaign. And was it the Ecuador president that was also attacked? You start to get a little paranoid because when you start adding them up. Steve Scalise and Donald Trump, two assassinations. And then you see these assassination attempts, it's kind of the international left is really, I mean they always, I mean they always said that Lee Harvey Oswald was a right winger. He wasn't, he was a left winger. The people tried to kill Ronald Reagan were left wing or crazy left wing. So I think what I'm getting at is all the, the, the left wing, we are moral, we are for equality of result. We're for the little guy, we're for this. It all filters down and that these people are horrible, they're oligarchs, they're garbage. I mean think about the United States garbage. Biden called half the country garbage chumps. Gregs, Hillary called them deplorables and irredeemable. You know, Obama called, called them, I guess you could call them clingers. Peter Strzok and Lisa Page said that you could smell them in Walmart. So when you start doing that to half the country or you start demonizing people, or you say that these South American people are Hitlers and da, da, da. Same thing happened in Europe. There's, you know, European right wing people are threatened all the time and nobody stops it. And so it just filters down and it lowers the bar of acceptability. Same thing with the riots. I mean, if you make your hero Obegar Garcia and you're told he's an M13 member and you're told that he slapped and threatened to kill his wife, and you are told there's serious questions whether he really did was in danger about his grandmother when he couldn't be, but that he had been involved himself in a plot to kill people. And if there is serious allegations that he was a trafficker on a hundred different trips and there are some suggestions that he was trafficking women as well, and you make him a hero or you make Mohammed Soliman's family a hero. When we learned that he released a video to his family and said that jihad was more important to him than his family, they knew all about him. And then, you know, as I said, Mangione the killer, you make him a hero. Then a lot of people start to think I could be a hero. And you see that you legitimize violence. So you're in the street and Gavin Newsom says that ICE is reckless since it's chaotic. And Karen Bass says to people, this won't stand. We're not going to let this stand. And Representative Torres, I guess her name is, she says, get the F out of here. That's our. Maxine Olson tries to go into it. What I'm getting at is they create the atmospherics that allow people to come out of the woodwork and shoot people on the assumption that they will be. They're either delusional and they think it's okay and there won't be any ramifications, or they think if they're caught, they'll be famous. They'll get somebody like Taylor Lorenz to interview Mangione. She said, you know, basically he was cute. Remember the Sarnoff brothers? They put one of the brothers on Rolling Stone as if he was a heartthrob killer.
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It seems to me that in Latin America, Mele, who is the Argentinian president, should be very careful because it seems like the target is right wing individuals.
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Yeah, it is, it is, but it is here too. It is here too. It's. The idea is, well, they're greedy and so you can kill them. With exemption. Left wing people are generous and don't touch them.
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Well, I have two stories left and we can do one or the other because we are on a little bit of a time limit here. Rubio is imposing sanctions on judges who issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and that was on judges on the International Criminal Court. But maybe more interesting is the state Stacey Abrams funded or gave 20 million to a friend of hers as or a loyal friend of hers and she's out there.
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Until they started $2 billion in affiliate that NGO money that she was in charge of. She is going to go down really when you start to look at this is one of the biggest fraud and crooks in our generation. $20 million to one of her friends in a law firm for what? For voting irregularity or something. This is you get on election denialism. This is a woman who for two years said that she was the governor of Georgia. She lost by 50,000 votes to Kemp and yet she went around and she was feeded by everybody as the real, you know, as the real governor. So she's never really won anything since she was a state representative representative. She's failed in everything she's run for and yet she's a heartthrob of the left for some reason. I don't know why that is. But she's not very competent. She's not an appealing character. She's hard left but she makes, she's up there with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and grifting and how, how she gets away with it. I don't know how the we're dealing with, with a 2.1 somewhere between 1.9 and 2.1 budget deficit and we just that crazy Biden team printed $7 trillion before they were done and that money was just lavished on all of these left wing people and nobody's asking for it to be paid back. There's no accounting. So there should be an investigation of her and her financial impropriety. There really should be.
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It makes you wonder whether this was a girlfriend of hers or not.
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At $20 million, I don't think she's gay. Is she?
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I don't know. I have no idea. Doesn't she write?
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Oh, she just writes salacious novels, pornographic heterosexual novels. I think Tucker Carlson read one on the air one or something.
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Somebody. Yeah, something like that. Well Victor, let's then turn to some common comments from our viewers on YouTube. And this is on the Julie Banderas interview. And lots of people loved Julie. I have to say reading down there she's great. But here are some of the better ones. Hillsdale College outstanding because you were talking about education. I have two grandchildren there presently. I keep forgetting their great grand great grands sibling from my siblings. They love it and they were so smart before they entered Hillsdale. Now they're unbelievably smart. Book smart as well as street smart. I'm a very proud grandma. And that is from Suzanne Roberts, 6745.
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I was in my graduate. Everybody's smiling. They're very happy.
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Michael Wilson, 7971 says this is a good chance, a good change of pace. I really like Julie and it's good to hear what she's like on a more personal level. Always. I'm glad to hear from Victor. Thank you both for doing this. I thought that was what was interesting about that interview as well. But it was interesting to hear Julie on her personal level. So you did a good job on that.
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I had some criticism on the David Mamet that I talked too much. But it was billed as a conversation, not an interview. But I might have to watch that next time. I got criticisms when I did with the Stephen Quay when I asked him questions. And I did some other ones where people said, oh, that wasn't even an interview. You just asked a question. Then you just went to sleep and they went on. So you have to find some balance.
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Some commented on other things you were talking about and one of them was the airlines and people dressing on the airlines. And this Steve 1st 1512 says when the airlines start treating passengers other than like cattle, maybe people will start dressing up for flights again, given the probability of delayed and canceled flights getting bumped and the like your Damra, right? I'm wearing, I'm dressing comfortably and gig jigs, vjh, jkbf. I'm not sure what that is. Says young people dress like slobs because of celebrity culture. Look at Justin Bieber or Biber goes out. Look how Justin Bber goes out in public. Sweatshirt, sweatpants, socks and slides. So they're just doing it from example. So thank you our audience, for the comments.
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They all have good points. I detest flying. The new thing now is it's happened to me twice where you're sitting there and somebody goes like this right when you're boarding and you sit down. This happened to me on a Detroit flight to Hillsdale and one to Miami Beach. People, can I ask you something? My partner and I kind of just bought a ticket maybe a week ago and he's right behind me and I'd like to have him. I have a window and he's behind me in the window. So I'd like him to sit next to me and then you could have his window seat. I said, I don't want a window. I like to be able to go to the bathroom easy without waiting. And I bought my ticket. Two months. Does that mean you're not going to let my husband and I sit together? I said, well, you could have done what I did and would you change if I asked you? And she said, well, it depends on what it is. But that's really common now. It's just part of the time, just switching around.
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Well, thank you, Victor, for all of your wisdom today. And thank you to the audience for choosing to join us on this weekend episode of the Victor Davis Dance.
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Thank you very much, everybody.