108: My Twin Brother Derek | The Wayback with Ryan Sickler – Baltimore Junkyard Series #108 Full Episode

Summary

The Wayback with Ryan Sickler

Episode 108: My Twin Brother Derek | Baltimore Junkyard Series

Date: January 22, 2026
Guests: Ryan Sickler (host), Derek Sickler (twin brother)

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Episode Overview

In this long-anticipated episode, Ryan Sickler welcomes his fraternal twin brother, Derek, for an unfiltered, nostalgic trip down memory lane through their childhood and teenage years in Baltimore. The brothers share wild stories, mischievous antics, and cherished moments as part of the new Baltimore Junkyard Series. The episode exudes their signature blend of humor, authenticity, and irreverence, peppered with sibling banter and raw detail. This is a true celebration of family, the complexity of growing up, and Baltimore roots.

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Key Discussion Points & Highlights

1. Brotherly Introductions & Banter

• (03:49–05:23)
  • Ryan introduces Derek in Baltimore, fulfilling requests from fans to hear from his brothers.
  • Derek plugs his wife Sarah and children, Maddie and Tate, to which Ryan jokes, “That’s nice of you to give them a shout out, but I wouldn’t say plug my wife.”
  • Derek: “Why do I have the plug? I plugged her last night, man.” (05:17)

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2. Childhood Memories: Iron Gate Era

Sibling Shenanigans, Shared Rooms, and Tormenting Todd

• (05:23–08:58)
  • The twins recount sharing a room and playing the "Todd" game with their younger brother, repeatedly whispering his name to drive him crazy.
    • Ryan: “He was too young to understand you could just ignore somebody.” (06:03)
    • Todd would yell to their mom: “Mom, they’re saying my name!”
  • Derek admits: “I remember smashing your KISS van out in the street.” (06:50)
  • They swap stories of toy destruction—Boba Fett dolls lost on rooftops, Star Wars figures with decapitated heads.
  • Tales of neighborhood trouble: Todd hurling a large rock at a neighbor’s Mercedes, brawling with Sean Flannery and friends.
  • Derek: “I remember going over one day... taking his dog and putting in the pool and it just sunk to the…” (08:32)

Family Discipline & Grandma’s Storytelling

• (10:43–13:13)
  • First and only time their dad “put hands” on them for cussing.
    • Derek: “That’s the only time I think he ever put hands on me.” (10:49)
    • Ryan: “You got to go first and I had to watch the abuse and then be like, oh my God, that’s coming to me next.” (11:23)
  • Grandma’s influence introducing them to storytelling and improv through made-up characters like “Jacob Boot” and “Skunk Tooth.”
    • Ryan: “I credit grandma all the time for introducing me to... early improv...” (12:08)

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3. Chaotic Apartments: 7 Chase St.

The Sketchy Railroad Apartment & Odd Neighbors

• (15:39–18:40)
  • After their parents’ split, the boys move with their mom to a cramped, linear apartment.
  • Derek secures his own room—Ryan shares with Todd, joking that this is when he started “jerking it.”
    • “That was a mistake because that’s when I started jerking it. And I was shaking those bunk beds and I think mom was like, we gotta get them.” (15:58)
  • Encounters with bizarre neighbors: A schizophrenic man and “Sterling,” a “crazy little dude with the shorts and speech impediment.”

Petty Crime, Innocent & Not So Innocent

• (18:40–20:26)
  • They accidentally get grouped in with window-breaking kids but maintain innocence “at least that time.”
  • Door-to-door collecting cash “for Jerry’s kids”—a scam suggested by another kid; their dad forces them to wash the money for fingerprints and donate to Ronald McDonald House.
    • Derek: “We ripped off a shitload…” (19:18)
    • Ryan: “We started washing it and he was pissing himself...” (19:57)
    • Derek: “It was over 500 bucks.” (20:24)

Street Fights and Young Love

• (20:26–21:32)
  • Ryan stands up to bullies harassing Derek, escalating into a chain of street fights.
  • Ryan: “You ain’t touching my motherfucking bike or I'll get off this bike and beat your ass.” (20:52)
  • Reminiscing about first kisses and childhood adventures under bridges with “bums.”

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4. Second Avenue & Teenage Escapades

Bike Jumps, X-Games Antics, and Neighborhood Kids

• (21:34–24:40)
  • A legendary BMX jump—Derek launches himself and trashes his bike, setting a “neighborhood record.”
    • Ryan: “That was the longest jump I’ve ever seen somebody make on a bike. It was X Games before X Games.” (24:28)
    • Derek: “Wheels, nothing got bent.” (24:40)

Driving, Failing, and Lessons

• (24:45–27:42)
  • Sibling rivalry over driving privileges—Ryan fails permit by a single question, Derek gloats.
    • Ryan: “You got to drive all the way home. And I was just pissed. You don’t remember that.” (25:03)
  • Taking the driver’s test in a stick-shift Honda in the snow, recalling their instructor's favorite lesson: “Wet leaves are like ice.” (26:14)
  • Their driving teacher illegally took them across state lines to buy lottery tickets.

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5. Mischief, Pranks & Getting Caught

Mall Memories, Pranking Neighbors, and Parental Clues

• (27:53–30:40)
  • Shopping trips with their mall-obsessed mom; hiding in clothing racks at “Sixteen Plus,” scaring shoppers.
  • Pranking a neighbor named Mike by vandalizing his car with “whatever we had in the fridge: chocolate syrup... ketchup.''
    • Derek: “Anytime we were outside, it was doing something we should[n’t].” (30:07)
    • Dad detects incriminating evidence from sticky light switches.

Stealing The Car

• (31:43–34:49)
  • Classic sibling confessional: Derek steals the family station wagon as soon as their dad’s shift starts, gets caught almost instantly when dad returns for his work badge.
    • Derek: “Didn’t even let him get out the street before I went and got in the car... And I seen his badge... He's going to come back for this.” (32:33)
    • Dad pauses, says: “What the fuck do you think you’re doing?” (32:41)
    • Ryan: “I never did any shit like that... You stole it again.” (34:16)
    • Derek: “I took that car out probably a dozen times at least.” (34:20)

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6. Childhood Dangers & Backyard Mayhem

BB Guns, Woodpeckers, and Snakes Galore

• (35:09–40:57)
  • Derek’s BB gun misadventures: “I had a scope on that BB gun. It was dialed in...” (35:18)
    • Ryan recounts the infamous “woodpecker execution” and Derek’s serial-killer tendencies (hanging the bird by a string for a fox to find).
      • Ryan: “To this day I laugh to myself just thinking, somewhere out in the woods there’s some old fox and he’s just arguing.” (36:13)
  • Derek’s lifelong ease with snakes: Catching, hiding, and pranking Ryan with them—including draping one over his neck during lawn mowing, and smuggling a garter snake inside a winter jacket.
    • Ryan: “That’s how I know I was a deep sleeper…” (31:43)
    • Ryan: “You throw it across the back of my neck.” (37:04)

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7. Closing Reflections

• Sibling Rivalries, Closure, and Nostalgia

  • The twins revisit the infamous KISS remote-control van incident, finally (sort of) closing a childhood wound.

    • Ryan: “I want you to close that childhood wound for me and look right there at that camera and say, ‘Hey, Derek. Fuck you.’’' (41:14)

  • Ryan closes the show, thanking listeners for joining a different format, and inviting feedback to continue the "Way Back" series.

    • "Why sit here and do the same thing all the time? So I hope you guys are enjoying it, and if you are, throw a comment in there, let me know, and we'll keep on doing it." (41:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• Derek: “Why do I have the plug? I plugged her last night, man.” (05:17)
• Ryan: “We used to sit there and we just go... Todd... and he was, like, right next to us. He'd be like, ‘What?’ And then we wouldn't say anything. And we start. We just sit there laughing.” (05:55)
• On Dad’s discipline: “You got to go first and I had to watch the abuse and then be like, oh my God, that’s coming to me next.” (11:23)
• On childhood scams: “We started washing it and he was pissing himself... We took all that clean money to Ronald McDonald House in Westminster.” (19:57–20:11)
• Legendary bike jump: “That was the longest jump I’ve ever seen somebody make on a bike. It was X Games before X Games.” (24:28)
• On driving instruction: “Wet leaves are like ice. That’s all he says... Wet leaves are like ice.” (26:14)
• Derek on getting caught stealing the car: “Didn’t even let him get out the street before I went and got in the car... He jams on the brake and I stop...” (32:33)
• On the KISS van incident:
  • Ryan: “I want you to close that childhood wound... and say, ‘Hey, Derek. Fuck you.’’’ (41:14)

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [03:49] — Derek joins the episode
• [05:23–08:58] — Iron Gate childhood, pranks, fights, Grandma’s stories
• [15:39–18:40] — 7 Chase Street era, sketchy neighbors, first scam
• [21:34–24:40] — BMX jump, legendary crash
• [24:45–27:42] — Driving test and lessons
• [27:53–30:40] — Mall antics, pranking the neighbor
• [31:43–34:49] — Derek steals the family car and gets caught
• [35:09–40:57] — BB gun mayhem, shooting woodpeckers, snake pranks
• [41:14] — KISS van wound, closing and reflection

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Tone & Style

The episode’s tone is rowdy, honest, and deeply nostalgic, with authentic Baltimore flavor. The brothers pull no punches, bouncing between heartfelt memories and crude humor—often at each other's expense. Their language is candid and colorful, making for a lively, relatable, and laughter-filled listen for anyone with siblings or a rough-and-tumble childhood.

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For New Listeners

Even if you’ve never heard The Wayback, this episode stands alone as a hilarious and surprisingly moving look at family, forgiveness, and growing up in Baltimore. It delivers plenty of laughter but also celebrates the bonds that endure through chaos and mischief. Highly recommended for fans of raw storytelling and sibling revelry.

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[Ryan Sickler]

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[Derek Sickler]

Hey.

[Ryan Sickler]

Baby, we gonna be here all day. We gonna be here all day, baby. I like that kind. What's up, guys? Ryan Sickler here. I'm back home in Baltimore. Very excited to be here to do something that I've been wanting to do for a long time. You guys been asking for years to have my brothers on old friends family, and I'm finally able to make it happen. Make sure you're subscribed. You're going to get episodes for a while. We got a bunch of them coming your way. Can't wait for you guys to see this. Welcome back to the Way Back, everybody. Ryan Sickler here. Very excited to do this episode. It's been a long time in the making. You've been saying, get your brothers on the podcast. Get your brothers on the podcast. Well, we brought the podcast podcast of my brothers. And sitting next to me right here, ladies and gentlemen, my twin brother, Derek Sickler, everybody. Welcome to the Way Back. Derek Sickler.

[Derek Sickler]

Thanks for having me.

[Ryan Sickler]

Before we get into anything, Derek, is there anything you'd like to plug or promote for yourself?

[Derek Sickler]

Just like to plug my wife Sarah, my daughter Maddie, and my son Tate.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's nice of you to give them a shout out, but I wouldn't say plug My wife.

[Derek Sickler]

Why do I have the plug? I plugged her last night, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right, man. So this is an episode everybody's been waiting for for a long time. We're gonna jump right in here. So we go back to the. All the way back to our dad's balls Together. Separate zygotes. We're fraternal twins. What do you remember about sharing a room, growing up together? Let's go to Iron Gate. Let's go there. What do you remember about sharing a room in Iron Gate?

[Derek Sickler]

Do you remember fucking with Todd? Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

I was just about to ask you if you remember playing the game. Todd, do you remember.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, like, whispering his name.

[Ryan Sickler]

I've told the story so many times. People love it. But we used to sit there and we just go. At this time, we're probably six, so Todd's probably two. And we were just laying. I don't even know what made us start it. We were just like, Todd. And he was, like, right next to us. He'd be like, what? And then we wouldn't say anything. And we start. We there laughing. And we go, todd, like, what? And we wouldn't say anything. I'm like, you do it. And big Todd. Then he'd start gritting his teeth a little bit, like, what? And he was too young to understand that you could just ignore somebody he thought you had to answer. And then we'd be like, todd. He'd be like, what? And then mom would hear it downstairs. Y' all better shut up up there. And then he would always yell, mom, they're saying my name. That used to make me laugh. So hard to get in trouble for saying somebody's name. The light on it was.

[Derek Sickler]

I mean, I don't remember a whole lot. I remember smashing your KISS van out in the street.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for admitting it. That's right. You remember that?

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah. You pissed me off, and I drove that thing right out.

[Ryan Sickler]

I don't think anybody. I think you're just pissed. Nobody made you mad. You. I think you were mad. You didn't get it. You said, let me see it. You drove the thing out into the street. Immediately. People think that's a lie. We looked the van up, too. That van's worth about maybe 7 or 800 bucks now. It was maroon. It had the Destroyer logo on the side. It was little handheld remote. It was the push button with the little H. The steering wheel here with the wire antenna. Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

Thing busted up.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thing busted up, drove it. He didn't even turn the. It just went straight into the street and his car ran. Right. I was crying like you fire.

[Derek Sickler]

I forget what. You smashed a mine in return.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, later. I remember.

[Derek Sickler]

Had the Boba Fett dial that we.

[Ryan Sickler]

Had to shot on the roof and.

[Derek Sickler]

It climbed up in the gutter.

[Ryan Sickler]

Still my favorite. That's still. That's where it probably might still be there.

[Derek Sickler]

You remember the time Todd took that big giant rock and threw it into that guy's dude?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Do you know who that was? I'm pretty sure. Remember that girl? That was. Remember the girl? Tina DeLuca? Remember her? Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was her dad's like new Mercedes. It was a nice ass car. We were just at the end of our driveway being punks.

[Derek Sickler]

I think you're right.

[Ryan Sickler]

And we're like, Todd though. Car rocket. This car. He.

[Derek Sickler]

It wasn't just a pe.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was like. It was like a landscaping rock around the mailbox. You know, like a nice. A good one. Has some good weight to it. He gave it all. Dude. Do you remember fighting Sean Flannery? I talked to him all the time. He's like, you guys gave as many ass whoopings as you got. Trust me. He's like. That's what he said. He goes, you know who was beating me up over there? Bobby. Bobby's beating the. Out of me. I'm coming over and beating you guys.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember going over there one day and Sean's and taking his dog and putting in the pool and it just sunk to the.

[Ryan Sickler]

I don't remember that.

[Derek Sickler]

I don't know.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you remember. Remember their pet raccoon?

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah. Bandit or something?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, they had a raccoon. Remember old TVs that were like a unit. They had it in this with the tube out, but. But some. Some cage, some screen, and they just kept the raccoon and a TV outside. All right.

[Derek Sickler]

Joe's. We destroyed a shitload of them there.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, remember ripping all the heads off of like Star Wars? Slamming in the door.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Double dribble. Do you remember the first time we played? I'll never forget.

[Derek Sickler]

I don't remember the first time, but I remember some heated battles over that.

[Ryan Sickler]

There's a lot of heated battles.

[Derek Sickler]

Sheila always had it.

[Ryan Sickler]

He talked about yesterday. We talked about yesterday. And his brother beat him and he ripped the belt. We talked about. We were ahead of time because now they have belts. They're nice belts for everything now, but double dribble. I'm pretty sure I was out doing something with Tom Harris that day when he dunked.

[Derek Sickler]

It had like the slide that Was.

[Ryan Sickler]

Advanced at the time. Yeah. Like three or four different still images where you had to time it and then it would freeze and go in. And I was out with Tom Harris. We're in like seventh grade, and his parents dropped me off. And I walk in and you're already playing it, and you slide me the controller. We had saved our grass cutting money. And you go A on offense because it was A and B offense. A is shoot, B is pass, defense, A is steel, B is block or whatever. And you've been playing all day. And I hit a three at the buzzer. A one. You were so pissed.

[Derek Sickler]

You all remember that?

[Ryan Sickler]

I don't remember that. Do you remember the time we jumped? We had. We had shared beds or shared a room. We had the twin beds and we were doing British Bulldogs across.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, I'm ready to put the hole in the wall. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

So scared of mom, man. I was like, oh, my God.

[Derek Sickler]

You couldn't do anything.

[Ryan Sickler]

Put a knee right through that wall. And then we had to. We. And I'll never forget. We did the right start. We cut the square. Never did anything else after that. His ass just had wind coming in next to his bed. Right up through the fiberglass, just pouring it. All right. Do you remember. Do you remember the time?

[Derek Sickler]

I remember getting. That's the first ass kicking I got from dad was on Iron gate.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

For cussing outside his bedroom. Remember? At her bedroom windows right there by the driveway. I said, I don't know.

[Ryan Sickler]

Tell your story because I'll.

[Derek Sickler]

I'll tell you the first time what I. I remember. We think we were playing baseball, and I don't know if I struck out or what. And I started cussing, and dad let my ass have it because of it. That's the only time I think he ever put hands on me.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's funny, it's interesting because I. This is how I remember it. I remember. I don't remember what we did. I can't say whether it was cussing or not. But I. I know mom told him something. And I know we had to lay on the bed and pull our pants down.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

And you got to go first. And I had to watch the abuse and then be like, oh, my God, that's coming to me next. And you got the way end of the deal. I had to suffer the emotional trauma of watching it and then get my ass whooped after that. And that is the only time he ever hit us. And I remember him telling me that mom told him something and he didn't remember what it was. And he felt so bad that he never did it again. But do you remember what he would do? Do you remember this? I'd rather take one on the ass than that. And I thought we'd always be like, you're gonna give us cancer. We tell him that you give us cancer if he pinches. Do you remember pushing our beds together? And grandma would come over and she'd lay in the middle and she'd tell stories. You remember mom would get mad at us up there and tell her to be quiet too.

[Derek Sickler]

Made up characters. Dude, that's.

[Ryan Sickler]

I. I credit grandma all the time for introducing me to what she probably didn't even know at the time. Early improv, like when she told the stories about Skunk Tooth and all. Whatever.

[Derek Sickler]

She would say Jacob Boot was one of her characters.

[Ryan Sickler]

I didn't remember that. Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah. I thought they were the wrong people were dead in our family.

[Ryan Sickler]

You're getting me emotional. I thought those were stories that were known. So when we tell the Jacob Boot again, she'd be like, oh. And she tried to remember it. I'm like, oh, you're just making this up as you go.

[Derek Sickler]

I was pissing on her. What?

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay, you've. Yeah, let's. Let's clean you up a little bit. So far you've plugged your wife and pissed on your grandmother this episode. So I don't remember a whole lot. I thought you're coming back to you Jacob Boots. A deep cut right there. I forgot that. But I remember when you say it. So you and Tom remember Bed way too long.

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, I remember doing that at her house and hurt like all of us crammed in her bed. I don't remember.

[Ryan Sickler]

So you guys would sleep.

[Derek Sickler]

Iron gate.

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[Ryan Sickler]

Her, she'd been the middle of you and Todd and I would sleep across the foot of the bed. I still. Those are my favorite times. And she would tell those stories. You hear the trucks on 95 going down. It's hot as in there like right now. You're like God, how the are we doing this? And then she'd come up to our place. She never drove, so we had to drive. That poor lady. No wonder she died early. You imagine getting in the car with 16 year olds everywhere.

[Derek Sickler]

I've lived my whole life I've always been able to hear a train whistle everywhere.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know what? I. I can too. That's interesting. Train. Why do you mention train though?

[Derek Sickler]

Because I remember that from grandma's house. Like you could hear.

[Ryan Sickler]

You mean in Tyrone?

[Derek Sickler]

No, no, the Amtrak. Yeah, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, do you remember our neighbor that had one eye and he would take it out the dad. Do you remember that guy, iron gate. You don't remember him? You remember where the garden was? Dad made that hill was our home run hill, that yard right there that lived next door. You don't remember him? No, not Mr. Mackie or Mac over here with the. I remember Gran Torino, the. Our neighbor that went this way.

[Derek Sickler]

That was the Dashlers, wasn't it there?

[Ryan Sickler]

Man, it might have been those two girls.

[Derek Sickler]

Well, no, that was the Tragos was the two girls.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh yeah, the Tragos went to Florida. Then you had the Hesels, Pam and Tracy who come. They come see me on. On tour all the time. Pam.

[Derek Sickler]

A few times I saw Pam.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, she's in Delaware, I think. Yeah, she's awesome.

[Derek Sickler]

She showed me her children. She got some or one. She has at least one girl.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

Beautiful.

[Ryan Sickler]

So after dad mom split. Mom's banging the old man. Dad's. We split. We go with mom to 7 Chase Street. While dad goes and gets shit figured out at Grandma's. What do you remember about 7 Chase Street?

[Derek Sickler]

I remember a lot of. A lot of bike riding like around all them streets and shit around there.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you? This is what always blew me away, like stealing. Well, before we got there, apparently you had asked mom for your own room. You were way ahead on it. So when we got there you got your own room and I shared a room with Todd for That year. And that was a mistake because that's when I started jerking it. And I was shaking those bunk beds and I think mom was like, we gotta get them.

[Derek Sickler]

That place was just a long hallway.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was. That's called a. So I learned about. It's called a railroad apartment. It was a. It was a tiny little living room, a tiny little kitchen. Then a hallway with three, four rooms, three bedrooms. Mom, you, me, Todd, bathroom. And then that back door that went to the little common area. Creepy common area. Where we would get our man.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember having mine.

[Ryan Sickler]

But do you remember the dude? Yeah, you weren't in my room. Do you remember the dude in the back?

[Derek Sickler]

You're craz across. I forget what his name was.

[Ryan Sickler]

He would scream.

[Derek Sickler]

Chickens. He got scream.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you remember mom letting him come through our apartment? No, Todd does. I was like, mom let him come through.

[Derek Sickler]

What was his name?

[Ryan Sickler]

I don't remember. He said something like Sterling. Sterling wasn't him. Sterling was the crazy little dude with the shorts and speech impediment. No, this was the guy. This was like the schizophrenic.

[Derek Sickler]

The chickens and all that.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, Sterling was, but this guy was nuts. And one time. Hey guys, new sponsor here. Lucy. Lucy is 100% pure nicotine. Always tobacco free. Lucy breakers are nicotine pouches with an extra surprise. Each pouch holds a capsule that can be broken open to release extra flavor and hydration. Set yourself up with a subscription and have Lucy delivered straight to your door. I. I've said it before. I got a lot of friends still dealing with old habits. And they love their Lucy pouches. They have a lot of different flavors. They're really into them right now. And Lucy's is the only pouch that gives you long lasting flavor whenever you need it. Get 20% off your first order when you buy online with code wayback. And if you don't want to wait, just head to Lucy Co stores to find Lucy near you and grab it today. And here comes the fine print. Lucy products are only for adults of legal age and every order is age verified. Warning. This product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. He told mom he locked himself out of the apartment and he needed to come through our apartment to get into the common area. Mom lets him and you don't remember this. And we're all like, what the f. That Common. That's where his door is. And she's like, oh yeah. And then he just like he cased our whole place. Lunatic. And then we hit the lottery. Remember we hit a couple Bucks on a four digit lotto number.

[Derek Sickler]

And then who, mom did?

[Ryan Sickler]

No, we did. It's gonna lead into something you'll remember. We hit. We happened to hit this lotto. Four digit lotto, paid a couple hundred bucks and we legitimately were gone this weekend seeing dad at grandma's. We got back, we had been grouped and in with these kids that broke a bunch of windows. And we legitimately. At least. At least the time we were blamed. I don't remember breaking anything.

[Derek Sickler]

I broke some of those windows, but not that time.

[Ryan Sickler]

Not me though. So I remember. Do you remember going door to door and collecting money for Jerry's kids?

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, we ripped off a shitload.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, we didn't know though. So in our defense, we were with me.

[Derek Sickler]

We didn't know.

[Ryan Sickler]

I didn't know we were with this kid, that this kid kept coming up. I can't remember his name. Black hair, wavy, wavy black hair kid. Jamie, maybe it was.

[Derek Sickler]

And he said, when he said, he.

[Ryan Sickler]

Goes, I've been going door to door.

[Derek Sickler]

Pretend like you're getting it for Jerry's kids and keep the money. How do you not know that you're stealing from.

[Ryan Sickler]

When he said it then I did. So we're going around door to door. Yeah. Do you remember what happened?

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, dad made us put it in the Ronald McDonald House.

[Ryan Sickler]

But do you remember what happened before that when he told us. Oh, God. See, I remember this. So you're right. We did. We took it to the Westminster.

[Derek Sickler]

Remember?

[Ryan Sickler]

These people were like, these kids are so nice about that. It's like. No, like a grand. No, they're not nice. We put it all in the Ronald McDonald House. But before that, he told us that they could fingerprint money. And we panicked and we threw all the change in the tub. We started washing it and he was pissing himself. You don't remember that? We washed so much loose change in the tub. He's just like these idiots. And we clean. Took all that clean money to Ronald McDonald House in Westminster. Then we have.

[Derek Sickler]

It was over 500 bucks.

[Ryan Sickler]

Everywhere we went, we were ready to fight. I remember there was these two brothers, Charles and something else. And they were fucking with you one day and they were grabbing the front of your bike and they wouldn't let you go. This kid was a little one year older and. And I remember sticking up for you. And I was like. He said something. I was like, you ain't touching my motherfucking bike or I'll get off this bike and beat your ass. And he did. And I got right off the bike and I beat his ass. And at that time, mom is driving by with Todd in the car. We're scuffling out in the street, and she just rides right by. You remember this? No, rides right by. Todd's in the window looking out like, what the going on? I beat this kid's ass. And then he went and told me.

[Derek Sickler]

I didn't even ask if.

[Ryan Sickler]

If you were all right. She just went home. He told that kid that lived next door to us, Dennis. Remember Dennis? He was an older kid. And then he came. Beat the out of him. He's like a seventh grader. Me up. And then he apologized. Do you know that my first kiss was that black girl lived next to us. Shelby, his sister. His sister Tasha was my first kiss. Lived next to us. I was making my way in west.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember going down under the bridge and with the bombs like, oh, man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, I forgot about that.

[Derek Sickler]

Knocking their hats off and shit. And then riding their bikes away.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. All right, let's go now to. Now we'll go to second Avenue. So now we're getting older. We get there in about the summer between sixth and seventh grade. We're now sharing a room again. Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

You clearly think about this way more than I do.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's my job. And we're out. We got. This is a good neighborhood, though. This is a neighborhood that we were lucky. We had lambs, a couple dirt bags, but. Yeah, but still. There's about a dozen kids between 6th and 8th grade that we could all play with, hang out within like a.

[Derek Sickler]

10 minute bike ride.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Easy, easy. So do you remember this is when you had got a red line. The bike was called a red line. We'll look this up. Had a little spiral in the front, remember? No, that was the spiral. God, what was it? Was it a redline or a spiral bike? You had the spiral bike. That was freestyle. Murray 33. It was our first freestyle bikes and there happened to be this.

[Derek Sickler]

I thought we built a ramp.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, not for this. This one was in front of Wagner's house. There was a bit of con, a sidewalk. But something happened where this one little lip over here. The guy just probably was like, I'm getting the out of here. And just lift it up like that. It was a nice jump that went into the yard. Those two boys were Orioles ground crew. Remember those guys? They were the nice Greek kids up the street. They were Orioles ground crew. These two. They were older at the time. They cut grass and they actually came and cut our grass. I think after dad died. For Grandma helped her out. They were nice guys. Anyway, it's all of us. It's like six or seven of us on our BMX bikes, and we're all gonna do a jumping competition. And you decide you're gonna go first. To this day, I could see it.

[Derek Sickler]

I launched. I remember it.

[Ryan Sickler]

Lift it right here. And you hit that motherfucking lip when you hit that. Right away, I was like, well, I ain't winning this competition. And then I realized, oh, he's out. He's out of control. This is not a controlled jump right here.

[Derek Sickler]

It was. It was controlled until, like, halfway through and I seen that little green box up in front of me. I didn't know how I was going to avoid that.

[Ryan Sickler]

So there's. They were the big power green boxes. Then there were little narrow cable ones.

[Derek Sickler]

It was a cable one.

[Ryan Sickler]

You hit this cable. I mean, it was. It's probably still a neighborhood record. Nobody went after that. No, but nobody wanted to come in second place. That wasn't fun, you know? I mean, like, we ain't beating that. I mean, that was a deadly wreck, but we ain't beating it. And I mean, just gone into the cable box. You hit that. Your handlebars, I'll never forget. They went all the way forward like that. They're down here. And you're just like. You got the wind. You don't say anything. You get on your bike, the handlebars down here, and you just drifted down the hill to our house like this. Off at the hover. You just dropped in the yard. And we were figuring out something else to do. We were like that. We ain't doing that, man. That was the longest jump I've ever seen somebody make on a bike. It was X Games. Before X Games. That was so far. I just remember being like, God damn, that's a good. Oh. Oh, I see why.

[Derek Sickler]

What's amazing was the wheels. Nothing got bent.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, you didn't blow your rims out or tires out.

[Derek Sickler]

Nothing.

[Ryan Sickler]

Dude. What about. Do you remember Going to get our learner's permit, and the deal was, if we both passed. You drive halfway home. I drive the other half. You remember that?

[Derek Sickler]

Yeah, I think I Hollywooded the stop sign.

[Ryan Sickler]

No, that was the actual test, not the. I'm talking about the written.

[Derek Sickler]

I don't remember that.

[Ryan Sickler]

And I failed it by one question. You got to drive all the way home. And I was just pissed. You don't remember that. Three days later, I went back with Norris because his birthday was right after us. Took it again, passed it and then we go take. I still give us credit. We've passed our driver's test in a four speed stick shift Honda in the snow. You remember that? I lost points because I peeled out.

[Derek Sickler]

Driving cars since we were 10.

[Ryan Sickler]

Still. We still did it. People can't do it now with all the damn beeping and telling you when to stop.

[Derek Sickler]

I'm gonna teach my kids how to drive.

[Ryan Sickler]

But you 100 even dad. I'm standing right next to him because he failed. He Hollywood at that stop sign. He really rolled those down. The guy passed you. You even admit that you rolled through it? Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

He didn't come to a complete. It was close to a stop but not complete like where you.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, you feel the weight transfer. And do you remember when we would have to drive the driver's egg car up Mr. Burnett and you and I would have to go in there.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember he used to take us to Pennsylvania to get lottery tickets or something.

[Ryan Sickler]

Teacher driving us out of state. That can't be legal to underage kids out of state to get Tennessee in the driver's egg.

[Derek Sickler]

I'll never forget as long as I live that wet leaves are like ice.

[Ryan Sickler]

Because of that guy. Wet leaves are like ice. That's all he says carpine about that guy. Wet leaves are like eyes. He. He'd always slowly. He'd wipe his nose down like this and click.

[Derek Sickler]

And we had actual like simulator. Simulator. Like you could shift them in it like.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

Put it in manual or automatic.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yep. And you took your test, you know your. Your class in there with your actual simulator. But I remember this time. You might remember this. So Snyder has a January birthday. He's got his license before us and he. We tell him we got to go out and do hours with Ted Burnett. And it's you. It's me and it's. I'll say his name. It was. Do you remember this day?

[Derek Sickler]

He had to hit the. What's his name? Had to hit the brake, he said.

[Ryan Sickler]

Sucking on a lollipop the whole time for one hand in it trying to hot dog a Ted Bernoulli on at him. Whatever. So now it's your turn. You get in there and I'm. I'm hitting the brake and shit when you're trying to park. And he's like guy. He used to say don't be an ass. He used to say that all the time. Got so this day it's. Now it's my turn. And out of nowhere here comes a goddamn blue Caprice Classic station wagon. Eric Snyder swoops Right in front of us. Do you remember? He's brake checking us and. And we're like God damn it goes. Now this is good, guys. You need assholes like this. You don't remember that? He's like. He loved it. He's like let him do it. He's an right now. And you need as of what Drive like on the road. It's a great example for it.

[Derek Sickler]

I just remember to drive into Pennsylvania.

[Ryan Sickler]

I can't believe. Yeah, just drive to Pennsylvan, get lottery tickets. I totally. Oh, that is right. That's crazy.

[Derek Sickler]

Somewhere like I forget where. Up, up. Like. Like you're going to Gettysburg.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Okay. Speaking of going. I want to talk about this with you and Todd too, but do you remember going to the Hanover Outlets where mom would take. Take us up like the two mile.

[Derek Sickler]

Long mall or whatever that was in Potomac Mills.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's where you got.

[Derek Sickler]

That's all mom did was mall shop.

[Ryan Sickler]

I tell people that used to make me laugh. Mom used to go to not just fashion bugs. Sixteen plus. Listen, no, sixteen plus was in security mall, bro. And that's. Listen, if you say the name, we're starting at 16 size 16 plus. Okay. It's not sexy ladies in there. And you and I and Todd, we used to go and we'd hide in the clothes rack. And then these ladies coming up in the clothes like ha. They'd be like scared fat ladies scaring the out of fat ladies at 16.

[Derek Sickler]

And mine would just be like stop.

[Ryan Sickler]

It wouldn't make you. But just ah. I used to be so good. Sixteen plus. Potomac Mills is the mall you're talking about. That's where you got your run DMC Iguana skin high tops.

[Derek Sickler]

Remember those? Yep, I remember.

[Ryan Sickler]

Now see, it's my job. All right.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember that's when Manute bowl was coming into basketball and they had to. And he was. I don't know if he was there. They had a cardboard cutout.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, like the life size one. Yeah. Let's hear your version of sneaking out. And we only used his first name. Mike's the neighbors. You guys vandalized his house and his car. I didn't know it was his car. That was his house mainly. Who came up with this one? You?

[Derek Sickler]

I probably chocolate syrup the out of it. Put a banana in a tailpipe. I don't know what else he said.

[Ryan Sickler]

Ketchup all over it and stuff. And you guys, whatever we had like in the.

[Derek Sickler]

In our fridge.

[Ryan Sickler]

And then I remember the part I remember is like knew who did it.

[Derek Sickler]

Because yeah, the kid knew we didn't like him.

[Ryan Sickler]

They knew who did it and they called dad about it. But dad knew you did it because dad was like the.

[Derek Sickler]

Is anytime.

[Ryan Sickler]

What is this all over the light switches?

[Derek Sickler]

Anytime we were outside, it was doing something that we should.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, but you guys came in and with your hands filthy, no gloves. And in. In the dark, you're touching for the light switches, flicking them on. Dad's like, what the is this? And I'm like, I really. I really don't know what that is. And he's like, is this ketchup or syrup?

[Derek Sickler]

I remember, like, laughing, when this dries in the sun, it's gonna be.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, it was like a Ford Escorter, his car up. It was my mom used to have. Yup. The one she hit the kid with. We're gonna talk about that on Todd's episode with a Together. Together. We'll talk about that.

[Derek Sickler]

Bounce his head off the quarter panel.

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[Ryan Sickler]

Your version of stealing the car and getting caught. So let me set it up real quick at this time. Now we have an Aspen station wagon, formerly our cousin Timmy sitting off camera. Here's aunt's wedding limousine. And it's now our car to around with and we are twins. We now have our license at the same time. So unfortunately we got to go every other weekend with the car. And this is a week night I believe. And I'm dead asleep in that bed. That's how I know I was a deep sleeper. And when I, I wake up to dad yelling at you. I don't know anything at all at that point. Dude, take it from there.

[Derek Sickler]

Well, I mean, what'd you do? All I remember that night because he had to go to work. He's like, we'll deal, we'll deal with this when I get home.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, but what'd you do?

[Derek Sickler]

I waited till he went to work.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like what time? Like 2. He was doing a graveyard that night, right?

[Derek Sickler]

Yes. It was probably double or something. Probably 10 o' clock at night or something. I don't know. He was going to work and me, like a dumbass, didn't even give it. Didn't even let him get out the street before I went and got in the car and I seen his badge, his work badge laying on the dining room table and I just like, he's going to come back for this. And I didn't give a shit because I was going out. So I get, get in the car, get going up the street and here he comes down the road and pass me and he jams on the brake and I stop. And he's like, like one of the few times I heard him cuss, he's like, what the fuck do you think you're doing? I told him that George. I was like, George said George? I said, my buddy George is in trouble. He goes, well, he goes, I'll be late for work, but I'll go, I'll go get him with you. And I'm like, nah. I just, I just said, nah, never mind. He goes, we'll talk about this when I get home.

[Ryan Sickler]

So, yeah, but that was out in the street. Then you come back to the house because he comes in to get the badge. And I wake up to him.

[Derek Sickler]

I don't know what happened there, but I remember when he got home from work that day, I was in bed like pretending I was asleep and it didn't matter. He grabbed my ass and shook the the out. He didn't hit me or nothing, but he, he made sure, he made sure I wasn't one fake sleeping.

[Ryan Sickler]

See, I did. I, I legit on my end. I'm waking up to hearing him like, you can't even wait 10 minutes ago? That's the dumbest I ever seen. And then I hear Ryan gets the car. The next two weekends I was in bed like, yeah. And then I walk out. I walk out, act like I don't know. I'm like, what's going on? He's like, shut up. You heard all that? Derek T. Me, my dad, like, shut Up.

[Derek Sickler]

What I didn't care about was I took the car out the next night anyway.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, you stole it again.

[Derek Sickler]

I took that car out. Probably.

[Ryan Sickler]

I never did any like that.

[Derek Sickler]

Probably a dozen times at least.

[Ryan Sickler]

I never did any of that. Did you ever snoop through anybody's? I was never a snooper.

[Derek Sickler]

Like who?

[Ryan Sickler]

Like mine or mom's or Dad? I, like I, I said that all the time. Like people are like, you never went through your brother's stuff and I was.

[Derek Sickler]

Christmas, I go looking for.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, but I don't mean that. I mean going through people's drawers or whatever. I don't care if you did. I just never did. I realized I was not a snooper.

[Derek Sickler]

But yeah, he got me red handed. I mean, how do you, how do.

[Ryan Sickler]

You lie about that?

[Derek Sickler]

Seeing you.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you remember going out in front, I mean, like 11 o' clock at night in the summer, and we would take the tennis ball and we'd throw it up at the street light to get the bats to come out it. And then we'd start throwing at each other's head and it would come like right through your head.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember taking fishing poles and trying to. Launching them up and trying to hook them.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you? Okay, here's one. Do you remember the woodpecker you shot? I tell the story all the time.

[Derek Sickler]

I used to shoot lots of this.

[Ryan Sickler]

This one didn't particularly.

[Derek Sickler]

I had a scope on that BB gun. It was dialed in the.

[Ryan Sickler]

There was a woodpecker out back one day going nuts. And you're like, I'm gonna kill that thing. And you sighted it up and you nailed it, fluttered down and it went right down the ground. Then we walked down together. It was laying on the ground. Do you remember? You picked it up. You remember what happened?

[Derek Sickler]

No.

[Ryan Sickler]

How do you not remember this?

[Derek Sickler]

I thought I killed it.

[Ryan Sickler]

That woodpecker shook its head, went, and you threw it down on the ground. Then you took the BB gun and put like eight of it in its neck. Then you killed it. And then you took these. Should have been a serial killer. You took your hoodie string out and you tied it. You don't remember this? You tied it around the goddamn woodpecker's neck. You hung it in a tree. And the next day we went back. There were little fox prints under it, like. And the woodpecker was gone. And to this day I laugh to myself just thinking, somewhere out in the woods there's some old fox and he's just arguing. I was hanging in a tree, I'm telling you. Yeah, it Was hell. Woodpecker was just laying there dead. He's like, I'm telling you, it was hanging in it.

[Derek Sickler]

I don't remember doing that.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you remember?

[Derek Sickler]

I remember shooting an owl one time with that gun.

[Ryan Sickler]

An owl?

[Derek Sickler]

An Ow.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Don't tell that story.

[Derek Sickler]

And look. Keep going. It was so thick. Oh, like, I shot that thing. Pumped as much as it would go. And I shot that thing with a pellet. And all it did was this, like.

[Ryan Sickler]

Just ruffled it, like, whatever. Do you remember the time you threw the snake on the back of my neck when I was cutting the grass?

[Derek Sickler]

I. I thought it was the snake that I caught that got loose in the house. Remember it was loose, like, it was missing for months. And this is.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yes, but this is how I remember.

[Derek Sickler]

I caught quite a few snakes.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, I know.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember it was laying out on the middle of the floor one day and I put it outside. You were cutting the grass, and you just. As soon as I let it go, you just beeline for it. And that's.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's what you think. The story. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. Let me tell you how that story goes. It's my turn to cut the grass. I'm on the Snapper Can't Buy Me Love Snapper lawnmower Do Willie Drag racing tractors. And I'm coming around the backyard, and I look up a couple yards and I see you and Wagner with a broom and a big trash can and a pine tree. And I know you're getting a snake out of it. I see you guys knocking into the trash can or whatever, and I can. I can see it a couple yards up. And as I'm going around, I got old school headphones on, orange headphones. It might have been the yellow Sony at that point. That one, it looked like it was waterproof. And as I go around, I look up at the deck and you're holding it like this. And I'm like, don't do it, dude. I'm shirtless. I go around a couple more times, I forget about it, and I guess you came back out and next thing I know, back across the back of my neck and I. I look like this. And this snake's right here. And I screamed like a. I said. And I grabbed it and I threw it on the ground. And then I put the blade down. You said, don't do it, dick. And I was like, I don't remember throwing it on. Jump. Dumped it out at. You said, there's your snake. You threw it across the back of my Neck. Another snake was another time. It was. It was unfortunate that you actually found it because you had brought. You brought so many snakes. And I tell these stories all the time. Used to. We used to go get the baby mice, and that was the best one. If they died, you tie fishing string to the tail, make it dance, just so you get your money out of the dead one. And then one time, you straight up got bit by one. And I was like, I'm back there. Like, oh, my God. And you're look, you're not even looking at it. You're just looking at the snake. And I was like, this mother. There's something different. Yeah.

[Derek Sickler]

What makes you sick is when you. When them teeth stay in your hand. That's what makes you sick. If you just let it bite you and let go, it ain't gonna do nothing.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, unless it's poisonous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got this snake, and then it gets loose, and it was missing. And one day, I don't remember if someone came to work on the deep freeze, or they.

[Derek Sickler]

It was just stretched out across the basement floor.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, the one. Don't you remember? The. These are all different snakes. This snake is missing. And a guy lifts up one of the barrels that work, and he's like, oh, and you. And I'll never forget, we're playing Nintendo, and you went. Went, my snake. Right away. My snake. And you went down at your snake. And that night it sucked because we had planned to fake. Mom used to lock her door. Remember? Mom would say she was scared of us and lock her door. Scared of us. And we were gonna. We were gonna put a fake snake on her bed and like mom and scare the out of her. But that guy caught it that day. Now, then you had another one. Do you remember? You.

[Derek Sickler]

I probably don't remember this.

[Ryan Sickler]

I remember because it's traumatizing, because I hate. To this day, I hate snakes. You throw it on my neck. You don't even remember. That's hilarious. You don't even remember it.

[Derek Sickler]

Grindstaff had a nice thing.

[Ryan Sickler]

We're going to Dr. Wells one time. It's Todd's appointment, and you and I are in the car. It's cold enough that we've got somewhat wintery jackets on. But. And we say, we're going to wait in the car. Mom goes in with them, and you reach in your goddamn jacket. Do you remember this? You pull out a garter snake. I go, what the is that? You're like, what? I go, you had that in your jacket the whole time? But yeah. Where'd you get that? I caught it out front. We were getting in the car. What the matter with you?

[Derek Sickler]

I don't remember that. Yeah, snakes never bothered me.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, no, they never did bother you.

[Derek Sickler]

I remember one day it was in the Aspen. I'm forgetting where I was. It might have been the one I threw on your neck. It was just on the side of the road. And I just pulled over and grabbed it. And I'm holding it like this.

[Ryan Sickler]

And just not on our property, just in the road.

[Derek Sickler]

You drove it home somewhere in Sykesville, where we used to fish, I think. And it was just on the side of the road, just trying to get off the road, like get into where he wants to be. And I stopped and I grabbed it and took it home and kept it. There's only black snakes, though. We didn't have nothing that dangerous around that way.

[Ryan Sickler]

I get the Destroyer KISS remote control van that you would probably market it out there. And my brother sees that I got it, and he's pissed that he didn't. This is 45 years later right now. And I see him. One of the first things he says to me is, you know what I remember? I go, what? He goes, that time you got that Kiss van. And I drove it out in the street and purposely had it run over by a car so you couldn't play with it. I said, yeah. Why? I fucking. That's what I said. Why? He's like, I don't know. I want you to close that childhood wound for me and look right there at that camera and say, hey, Derek. Fuck you. Hey, Derek, you. And remember to swallow. That's from the God of thunder. And your brother Derek, you. I hope you enjoyed the Way Back to Baltimore junkyard series. Trying something different. Why not? We've got the ability to go do it. Why sit here and do the same thing all the time? So I hope you guys are enjoying it, and if you are, throw a comment in there, let me know, and we'll keep on doing it.

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