113: Tim Dimemmo | The Wayback with Ryan Sickler – Baltimore Junkyard Series #113

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Wayback with Ryan Sickler

Episode 113: Tim Dimemmo | Baltimore Junkyard Series #113

Date: February 26, 2026
Host: Ryan Sickler
Guest: Tim "Timmy" Dimemmo

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Episode Overview

In this nostalgic and riotous episode of "The Wayback," Ryan Sickler returns to his Baltimore roots, recording with family and old friends at Shannon Patterson's Junkyard Auto Recycling. His guest is cousin/brother-in-arms, Tim Dimemmo, as they dive deep into the wild, rough-and-tumble tales of growing up in blue-collar Baltimore. Packed with stories of family dysfunction, resilience, misadventure, and laugh-out-loud memories, this conversation paints a vivid portrait of a tight-knit but chaotic Italian-American family navigating mental illness, poverty, and the unique cultural quirks of Baltimore’s east side.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Family Origins and Early Chaos

• Background

  • Tim shares the history of his parents meeting and the early days in O’Donnell Heights, a mostly Black housing project where they were the only white family ([03:53]).
  • He describes a tumultuous home life—his mother left, taking one sister to Virginia and leaving Tim and siblings with their mentally ill father ([04:41]).

• Insanity and Survival

  • Tim and his brother were shaped by their father’s paranoia and mania—he was always training them to fight, convinced someone was out to get them:

    “We were raised in an environment that we thought somebody was always trying to get us. We were always training to fight. I mean, we were fighters.” —Tim ([08:03])

2. “Growing Up Assassins”

• Roughhousing as Way of Life

  • Regular visits meant hours of physical combat, wrestling, and kung fu practice, all orchestrated (and encouraged) by their father ([09:04]).
  • Ryan recalls how these visits left them exhausted (“You guys left our house... you guys were in the car napping hard.” —Ryan, [10:00]).

• Legendary Strength and Eccentricity

  • Tim’s dad’s Bruce Lee obsession led to him punching cinder blocks barefoot and performing one-finger push-ups in public ([10:06]).

  • “He can put his foot through a watermelon.” —Ryan ([10:41])

  • Memorable story of dad knocking a neighbor out cold with an unopened beer can, and the family camaraderie that followed ([10:46]).

3. Mental Illness, Courtroom Drama & Family Support

• Father’s Legal Troubles
  • A courtroom story where the judge addresses “Aunt Marguerite” for using “hun” in legal proceedings, and the chaos around their dad’s love songs to a hairdresser ([13:04]).

  • “First of all, you will not address me as ‘hun’ in a court of law. You will address me as ‘Your Honor’.” —Judge (paraphrased, [13:45])

4. The Baltimore Kid Experience

• City to County Culture Shock

  • Stories of Tim and Gary’s awe as city kids experiencing cows and horses for the first time when visiting Ryan in the county ([16:01]).

• Train Tracks Adventures

  • Tales of breaking into parked trains (“Olympic suits and socks for Christmas”), rolling under moving trains, and pelting cars and buses with snowballs from the overpass, gamifying the chaos ([17:06], [18:24]).

  • “We were doing it for fun all the time.” —Tim ([17:55])

5. Teenage Misadventure: Sister’s Party Debacle

• Epic Party Goof
  • Ryan recounts getting Tim dangerously high at his sister Jennifer’s birthday, causing him to collapse and nearly needing CPR ([22:15]).

  • “You got knocked the f*** out!” —Jennifer, channeling the movie "Friday" ([25:42])

  • 17 out of 19 girls at the party were tripping on acid, leading to chaos when Tim appeared with blood on his lip, ruining any chance of romantic success that night ([26:39]).

6. The Family’s “Come Up” — Rite Aid Lawsuit

• Class Action Hero

  • Aunt Marguerite and other Rite Aid employees are falsely accused of embezzlement, agree to take lie detectors, pass, and ultimately win a substantial class action lawsuit ([32:54]).

  • “She was the ringleader... said ‘you’re not going to call me a liar or a thief.’” —Tim ([33:56])

  • Family’s lifestyle improves: “It was party time for the whole family… she was buying for everybody, bro.” —Tim ([34:20])

• Moving Up (Sort of)

  • Despite the payout, the family only moves just across the city line:

    “‘We’re fucking millionaires, we’re out of the city!’ Y’all went right here, Rosedale.” —Ryan ([35:04])

7. More Family Hijinks & Generational Dynamics

• Carrying Caskets and Tables

  • The family, repeatedly forced into funeral pallbearer roles, naturally slips into “pallbearer formation” when clearing a picnic table, providing comic relief in darker times ([39:24]).

  • “We were always pallbearers…If you could get the leg-end, that was the light end.” —Ryan ([39:24])

• The Old Head Women Running Things

  • Discussion on the dominant matriarchs of the family holding things together, protecting reputations, and doling out support ([42:52]).
  • Stories of family secrets, inheritance, and uncovering treasures:

    “When I saw this, I thought about you right away…that was your dad’s, man.” —Tim (on finding Ryan’s dad’s Navy tool, [42:23])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Family’s City Survival Instinct:

  “We were assassins. If Aunt Marguerite doesn’t get a hold of you guys — we were in prison.” —Tim ([12:22])

• On Aunt Marguerite’s Defiance:

  “You will not address me as ‘hun’ in a court of law.” —Judge ([13:45])

• On the Rite Aid Lawsuit Victory:

  “She got 1.2 [million]…and for the family, it was party time.” —Ryan ([34:07], [34:20])

• On the Newfound Wealth:

  “‘We’re millionaires, we’re out of the city!’ Y’all went right here—Rosedale.” —Ryan ([35:04])

• On Being Saved by Luck and Family:

  “The dynamics of our family…it saved me and Gary from going to prison because it got us out of a neighborhood.” —Tim ([37:33])

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• Family History & O’Donnell Heights: [03:53 – 05:04]
• Fight Club Childhood: [08:03 – 10:06]
• Dad’s Craziness & Beer Can Incident: [10:46 – 11:43]
• Dad’s Courtroom Drama & Love Song: [12:28 – 14:54]
• Train Track Stories & Overpass Snow Battles: [16:26 – 19:38]
• Teenage Misadventure at Jennifer’s Party: [22:15 – 27:36]
• Rite Aid Lawsuit and Moving Up: [32:54 – 35:41]
• Family Table/Paulbearer Comedy: [39:24 – 40:17]
• Matriarch Power, Family Heirlooms: [42:00 – 43:22]

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Final Reflection

This episode is a tour through wild Baltimore nostalgia, with both Ryan and Tim blending raw honesty with warm-hearted humor. Through stories of adversity—mental illness, poverty, brushes with the law—their love for family and the strength of old-school kinfolk shine through. It’s their matriarchs who provide lifelines, and absurd family antics that ground them both. The tone is unvarnished, often laugh-out-loud, frequently sentimental, and always colored by their uniquely Baltimore flavor.

Top Takeaway:
Legacy is messy, family is everything—and sometimes survival is just learning to laugh at the chaos.

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Transcript

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[A]

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[B]

What's up, guys? Ryan Sickler here. I'm back home in Baltimore. Very excited to be here to do something that I've been wanting to do for a long time. You guys been asking for years to have my brothers on, old friends, family, and I'm finally able to make it happen. Make sure you're subscribed. You're going to get episodes for a while. We got a bunch of them coming your way. Can't wait for you guys to see this. Welcome back to the Wayback, everybody. Ryan Sickler here. Thank you for watching this show. Thank you for supporting this channel. Very excited to do this junkyard series back here in Baltimore at Shannon Patterson's Junkyard Auto Recycling of Baltimore, having a bunch of family and friends. You guys been asking for this for years. So we're gonna do some episodes while I'm in town and maybe keep doing this thing. As we move forward, I kind of like it. And It's. Instead of 106 degrees, we can come back in the fall and do it when it's nice here in Maryland. So this guest right here, this is not only a cousin to me, this is a brother. Very excited to have him here with me. Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Demo. Welcome to the Way Back, Tim Di Memo. I'll be calling you Timmy the rest of the episode.

[A]

Happy to be here, brother. We're gonna share some funny stuff today.

[B]

So Timmy and I are cousins. We are second cousins. I looked it up to see how that all the once removed works. And we are second cousins. Our fathers, our first cousins. Timmy's dad, you're an OG fan, so you heard me talk about his father on Joe Rogan. There's a clip going around about it right now from Rogan when I was on Timmy's dad is the dad. My cousin who was paranoid schizophrenic. That's your dad. But before we get into all the crazy stories, just give me a little back history. Give us a little back history. Your mom and dad meet, like, what age. Ish. Where, when, that sort of thing.

[A]

All right, so the. The chaos started pretty early. I want to give a shout out to all my brown brothers and sisters in o' Donnell Heights because I think from two years old, from what I can remember up to about maybe the third or fourth grade, that's where we lived. We were definitely the only white family in that whole project.

[B]

And this is you and who at the time?

[A]

Me, my dad, my brother, my sister, my two sisters and. And my mother at.

[B]

So there was a point where all five of you lived together?

[A]

Yeah, we all lived together for a short.

[B]

I didn't even know that.

[A]

Yeah, you're going to hear some stuff today. I was lucky enough to be kicked out of my house at the age of maybe two or three by my mother. Kicked in the middle of the back and said, you know, we don't want these little bastards here anymore for me and my brother, which kind of saved us in a way. But I just. I remember the things that stuck to me at that age were the crazy things that my dad was doing. Like.

[B]

Well, wait, before we get into that. So you guys are. Your mom and your dad split. Mom heads to Virginia with one sister, but leaves the three of you with your dad.

[A]

Yeah, she left. She took Marguerite and Crystal and Jennifer got left.

[B]

There was another.

[A]

There was another step.

[B]

I remember Chris. Oh, she's. She's not blood with you.

[A]

Not Blood.

[B]

I remember her. She had a tattoo that said Crystal on it.

[A]

Yes, she did.

[B]

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[A]

No, actually we didn't remember you living

[B]

with your dad first.

[A]

Yeah, he tried to actually hold on to me and Gary and try to keep some sanity into the family a little bit. And my dad, of course, bipolar, schizophrenic. We were raised in an environment that we thought that somebody was always trying to get us. And we were always training to fight. I mean, we were fighters.

[B]

I mean, man, let me tell you, you guys, when we would go, I think my dad loved it because he loved your father. And we hung out with you guys all the time because my dad, my dad would tell us, we're not going to make this a honeydew episode. This is going to be light and laughy. But he would tell us about your dad all the time. Before the drugs, before all that stuff. He was great of the cross. Like black belt karate, like, very together with it. Drugs. You know, they open up portals in some people. And it sounds like that opened up a bunch of portals.

[A]

I got a good story on how that worked out. Man, that was crazy.

[B]

But I do remember coming down to your place on Eastern Avenue. You guys lived upstairs. It was just you and. And your brothers.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Well, I said brother, you and your brother, brother Gary. And man, all you would do was wrestle each other. At first he would like wrestle each other. He got. He would make you guys do kung fu in front of us. Even my dad, you guys were. You guys were each other up. And you never stopped.

[A]

Never stopped.

[B]

It was like, no, like Energizer bunnies just going the whole time. We're like, holy. So then my dad would bring us down. Now sometimes you'd be in Aunt Marguerites and he'd be like, just go down the basement and play with your cousins. And all it was, was, I mean, four straight hours.

[A]

We knew you were blood. We knew you were Italian. We loved you. We weren't punching enough. But everything else, you could never have a break.

[B]

It was never stop. Full on pit bulls all the time.

[A]

You guys showed up to the house, we were looking out the window like, yeah, we got this. We got this. We're going hammer down. And you guys left. You guys, by the time you Guys left our house all the time. You guys were in the car napping hard.

[B]

You were sleeping. That's why he did it. He loved it. He's like sleeping on the way home. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

But getting back to that of Donald height and the things that you guys didn't see. And like us, these people in this neighborhood, only white family. And he's out there punching cinder blocks with his front two knuckles, making his knuckles bleed all the time. This was during the Bruce Lee epic, you know, Aaron stuff. So he's out there doing that. He's out there headbutting stuff all the time.

[B]

Just outside.

[A]

Outside in front of the project, in front of all these people. But, you know, there was some crazy stuff in there. He had some like. I mean, I don't know if part of it's schizophrenia or just powers he had been, but he could do. You know, he was doing push ups. Single arm push ups on fingertips. He was always doing pull ups. I mean, he was. He was training us to be like, yeah.

[B]

My dad was like, right, he can put his foot through a watermelon. I was like, that's impressive. You can put your foot through a watermelon.

[A]

But one of the great stories over at that apartment that you brought up. So this guy Will's in our neighborhood. He's kind of like the bigger guy at Cheech and Chong or whatever. Yeah. So. And all the. All the men over the house were, you know, drinking, having a good time. We're listening to Zeppelin. All stuff. You got two kids in the house pick taking all this in. But he basically. Wills is intag. They're antagonizing Wills to mess with. They called him Gary seven all the time. He said he used to be People, you know, they're. They're like this guy, this little guy. Whoop your ass. So Will goes over and he's got these still toe boots on, and he like taps my dad in the shin. My dad looks up and like, I like when he puts that look when he puts his eyes on somebody. I was like, oh, shit. I knew something was going to go south quick. And that's the beer can incident. He said, step back. And the guys were like, what you going to do? My dad grabs a beer can. It wasn't even open. Like, it was. And it was like blue ribbon. And one of them, you know, older beers, you know, he grabbed that beer can and hit him and stood up and hit him in the forehead and knocked him off his feet.

[B]

Like this, though.

[A]

Yeah, y', all, the mark. The mark. Permanent Mark. But the crazy part, after he did that, this guy's out for 40 minutes, and the first thing.

[B]

40 minutes.

[A]

40 minutes, and you got two men trying to pick him up and get him out of that apartment. They don't know if they should call the ambulance of Sky's dead or not. But right after he does that, my brother. What's. What's the first thing my brother does? He goes up and kicks him. Says over you going do it. I'm going get my turn. So after that, I wanted to get gave a little something, something. I thought that that's family. I said, we're protecting each other. But, yeah, there was a. Like, when he was going through his episodes, man, the stuff that he was doing, it was. I mean, we were. Like I said, we were trained little fighters, man.

[B]

We thought, you know, you were assassins.

[A]

Yeah, we were assassins. If.

[B]

If Grandma. Aunt Marguerite, excuse me. Doesn't get a hold of you guys. We was.

[A]

We were in prison. We were.

[B]

No doubt. You and I are. This is when I'm homeless and I'm living with you.

[A]

Sure. Jump forward a little bit.

[B]

Absolutely, absolutely. And your dad's going to court, and we're like. We are. We are definitely going to watch that.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

And we drive all the way to court, and we find out when we get to the court, we're on the east side of Baltimore and he's on the west side. We're like, God damn it, we're gonna miss it. And we haul ass over that court, and we get to that court, and we get in there, and Aunt Marguerite's in there. And that's when Aunt Marguerite so. So that's when he was explaining the Chris, I love you song. So your dad wrote a song to a hairdresser, and it went like, chris, I love you.

[A]

Chris, I need you repeated over and over.

[B]

Because I want to die. Chris, don't cry. Because I want to die. And the lady, rightfully so, put a restraining order on him. He couldn't go back there and get his hair. But because he's. He doesn't understand. He's like, what did I do wrong? I just wrote a song. So this lady that I love. So the judge says, you know what? We're gonna let you go. We see your history. You know, they know he's got mental health issues.

[A]

They played that in the courtroom, though. They played that tape in the courtroom.

[B]

They asked him to say it. They asked him to say the words. And he. And she said, and you.

[A]

You're sitting next to me and we're looking around, I'm like, that sound pretty good to me. And we're, we're laughing and like so,

[B]

you know, the judge was. So the judge says, right before they're about to let him go, the judge says, oh my God, hold on. There's an, actually an outstanding warrant here on the books. And he's like, nah, no. And she's like, yeah, I, well, this is what I want to ask you because I wrote down something. So aunt Marguerite stands up and goes, hun, we dropped those charges. And that judge said, first of all, you will not address me as hun in a court of law. You will trust me. Is your honor Aunt Marguerite, hun to judge. It was a lady. We were like, oh. She's like, what I thought it was was something like. He took a cab to their home one time. They didn't want to pay the tab. He threw a brick through the glass door. They had called the police. He got. And they did drop the charges. It just didn't make it off the books.

[A]

Well, they knew he was bipolar and he did, he went up and he was, he was constantly sending I love you tapes and he did, he took a brick, went up to this window, threw it through there and a man came out and he looked at me and he was like, what, you know, what's the problem here? I'm just trying to tell her I love her. And what caused, what really pissed the judge off was he sent her a tape too. After the fact. That's what. After the fact he said, turn the tape.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

So I mean, he was, he was awful.

[B]

He would always send his tapes to all his songs and yeah, he didn't

[A]

play, he didn't play by, he didn't play by the rules made.

[B]

What do you remember about coming out to our house and spending a night?

[A]

Kind of. Same thing. When we went out to your house, I mean, you know, your dad was awesome. Your dad was such a role model in our, Your dad was one of the, you know, the only role models we really had that was positive in a way. We had a couple other ones, but we went out to your house the same thing. We knew it was fight night. We knew we were going in the woods. We knew we were going to go out there and cause a ruckus and, you know, do all kind of crazy. We would go out there and, you know, get in the woods and run around and you talk, you were talking about your little soccer thing you guys had in the basement.

[B]

Basement.

[A]

We got there you guys are thinking soccer, me and ether, me, like. Like, go ahead and touch the ball, Ryan. I want you to touch that ball. And then we were all you. We were.

[B]

We were. We were.

[A]

We were. We weren't worried about soccer ball. Yeah, that's right. We were playing. We were playing tackle football. And, you know, we were smart enough. You know, we loved your brother Todd, but we were smart enough to cut him some slack because we knew he wasn't in the. You know, we were going after the big.

[B]

Different claw. Yeah, different claw. But also, do you remember the first time you guys saw horses and cows with us? Do you remember?

[A]

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[B]

I'll never forget thinking I took that for granted because you guys were sitting kids and had never even been to the county. You come out and we're living out there for a minute now. We're driving by these cows and stuff. And when you guys saw them, you thought they were like, yeah, I mean, it was. It was interesting to see the perspective of life. Like, oh, yeah, they're. They don't see cows at all. I just remember that really standing out.

[A]

So a little. A lot of shout out to Shannon's junkyard here. But we were raised right around the corner here, and we grew up on those tracks. We grew up doing all kind of crazy stuff.

[B]

So you guys grew up on 308 South Macon Street? Yeah, 308 is my birthday, which is why I always remember that.308. And the train tracks are right behind you. And my dad's like, all right, go. We're gonna go play with Timmy and Gary. We're like, yeah. And then we go out back and you.

[A]

Do you remember my grandma would always say that you guys, when you guys came over or would say to us like, hey, don't do anything stupid.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, don't get them in trouble, because they. We'd like to. You know, we played rough.

[B]

And you were like, yeah, no problem. And then let's talk about what you guys did out back on the train tracks.

[A]

So those trains, man, we would hop on those trains. You know, I had some friends. I'm not, you know, I don't want to put no names out there for the neighborhood kids that are still here. But they would break into those trains. We would get into those trains and get like, Olympic, you know, Olympic suits and socks and stuff, and we would get that shit out for Christmas.

[B]

I remember Aunt Marguerite being, like, fell off a truck. Literally said that. I'm like, air conditioners. But I listen. Robbing the trains is One thing, but we came one time and you were

[A]

rolling underneath them while they were moving,

[B]

not while they were parked. You were rolling on the tracks under and back out. And we would take rocks, it's the first time I'd ever seen that either. And put it on the track and it would pound that, a big one into dust immediately. And I'm like, if you, if your foot even gets snagged and absolutely done. And you guys would do that just for fun.

[A]

We were doing it for fun all the time.

[B]

For fun while the trains are moving, you're rolling in and out.

[A]

We would take coins and put them on there. We would put them on there where they were just enough off the track to where they would shoot out and hit. So it would hit the houses fly out. And that bridge there, that was there all the time. Do you remember we used to climb that bridge all the time. Not on the inside of the bars there, but on the outside. And we would, we would catch ourselves doing things like that because one of the neighborhood kids got stuck up there and had to call the fire department. Of course Tim and Gary, you know, we were always instigated.

[B]

Do you remember the time we went up there? It was a Thanksgiving. I mean, at this point, my dad's dead, it's just grandma. We're staying at your, your place with aunt Margarit. So I say Aunt Margarita Margaret's my great aunt, my grandma's sister.

[A]

And our aunts were awesome.

[B]

We go out. It's a rare snow on Thanksgiving and you and I are out. We go up on that overpass and we're like, let's bomb these cars down here. And do you remember we hit that city.

[A]

So the snow around here, man, anytime it snowed, it was basically a free for all in the neighborhood. The kids knew they were going up to that wall and we had a point game. You know, if it was a bus, we were getting that bus. And if we could get it to go sideways a little bit, it was, you know, five points and we could get the completely stop. 10 points.

[B]

I think we had 50.

[A]

If you wrote down under that underpass when it was snowing and your window was down, I don't care anything. It was good. It was coming through that, that time when all that stuff was going on. If you remember, we hit that bus

[B]

and that dude started sliding sideways.

[A]

That bus went like this.

[B]

I never in my life care more about the 11 o' clock news in my life. Like let's sit down, see if there of buses.

[A]

Do you remember what happened after that bus did that. We were laughing so hard and I was trying to get you guys, like I had to pull you guys down that alley to get you guys to run because you wouldn't run. You were laughing the whole time.

[B]

That was terrible.

[A]

And we did go back. Nobody got hurt. You know, for the record here on that.

[B]

So my senior year, I have to remember, Jim Grindstaff was there for this one. We shot a gang video. We were doing some gang presentation. Video cameras were new and you know, you put the tape in the camera and yeah, our senior project was on these gang things. So we decided to come down to your neighborhood. We were just going to shoot in that playground area in the tr. That's right. And do you remember we're dressed like. And the cops showed up. Do you remember they showed up. We're like, hey, we got it on camera somewhere still. Hiring globally is one of those things that may seem simple at first, but as fees start stacking up, you begin to realize the cost of everything isn't always so clear. That's where pebble comes in. Pebble brings clarity with upfront all in hiring cost and enables you to hire the world. Pebble is an AI powered global human resources platform built for founders hiring and supporting teams around the world. Pebble helps you hire, pay and manage talent in over 185 countries with fast onboarding that can be done in minutes. Doing shows in Canada, even I get confused by the conversion rate and the breakdown. So I can only imagine it's tougher. We're new to the employer, keeping track of multiple people and I see why pebble would be a valuable tool for your business. You know, these days it's different. We all work over the globe. Our guy that does the website, he lives in England. All right. Instead of juggling separate tools for contracts, payroll, benefits and compliance, pebble brings everything together with a built in guidance and local expertise to support you. Bottom line, it simplifies global people operations so you can spend more time growing the business and supporting your team. Our new standard, discounted pricing at 399 USD per month per employee helps you contain costs. Go to H I P E B L A I forward slash to get a free estimate. That's H I P E B L dot AI for a free estimate.

[A]

What happened there was because our neighborhood kids were so tight and we. If you, you fought one, you fought everybody. We were fighting other neighborhood kids all the time. And that's where we met at. We'd have agreements, no weapons, no nothing. Only Hand on hand. And you tried to match with people that were your size, but they knew that was a spot. We did that all the time. So we were fighting. You know, Greek Town was fighting Holland Town. Greek Town was fighting Canton. I mean, we were. We were doing that stuff. And you guys.

[B]

Oh, that's why.

[A]

So that's why they.

[B]

We had fake guns and they came hard. All right, this is one of my favorite stories ever. Let's talk about how you almost died at your sister's birthday party.

[A]

Oh, man, there's. There's that. That's. That's one of the most tragic stories I could tell. And just for. Think about. Think about being our age. You're a couple years older than me, and we're at a house party, and there's. At least. I'm not exaggerating. There was at least 25 girls there, and I knew that.

[B]

I'll tell you. I remember it vividly. There were. There were 19.

[A]

19, okay.

[B]

And I had just gotten. I'm homeless at the time. I'm living with you. Fresh out of ups. Shout out to UPS Baltimore. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I come home. I'm. I. I roll up. I. It's. To this day, it's probably the best joint I've ever rolled. I mean, that burned like a goddamn triangle all the way down. And I said, come on, we'll go out my.

[A]

Go out your calendar. You had the Honda.

[B]

My 1990 Honda Civic with original rims. And I said, we'll just. You just take it, because we'll. We'll. We'll go back to another story a while. We were like, hey, you should just probably take one hit here.

[A]

You know, I was a lightweight. And I. I told.

[B]

Also, genuinely think you're allergic to the way your body.

[A]

I definitely am. I definitely.

[B]

You hit it and then get it twice. We're listening to Hendrix. You hit it again a second time, and I'm hitting. And I'm like. I'm. I'm. I'm like. We don't. You know, we have practice. We didn't get that west coast that came in. We're like, holy shit. So we get out of the car, it's cold. It's like February maybe. When's Jennifer's birthday? January. February.

[A]

January 19th.

[B]

Yeah. It's cold as shit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we walk down the driveway, and I can still. I could still see that wind come around the corner and just go right into my chest, right into my. I start shaking. You and I are shaking. We go in your bedroom, and I'm like, man, you're not looking so good. I look in the mirror, like, do I look like that?

[A]

I'm like, I wasn't in the back.

[B]

I look okay. Yeah. So you're like, breathe and breathing. You're like, I'm going to bathroom. Well, you try to get in the bathroom.

[A]

I tried.

[B]

Now, the girls had the bathroom. Two girls who seven. What we find out is 17 of the 19 girls are tripping on acid.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Two of them aren't. And they are scared. And they have locked themselves in the bathroom that you're trying to splash water, get some.

[A]

Yeah, I was just trying to. I was just trying to get some

[B]

water, get some hair, man.

[A]

I mean, so I got up. I got up from that bathroom and tried to make it upstairs to get to another one time.

[B]

You did. You went upstairs? Yeah. And you came back down. I was. That's what I was like, oh, you look ten times worse, dude. You look worse.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What's happening to you?

[A]

So.

[B]

And then you, like, staggered out the room and. And you're leaning up against the door and you're beating on that door, trying to. Girls, Girls. I go over to the fireplace. Aunt Marguerite's. You know that basement in Rosedale? I'm sitting next to your sister. We're letting the fire warm my back. And I'm like, look at you. I don't know yet how bad you are.

[A]

Well, they're saying the same thing, like, clowning, you know.

[B]

I'm like, look at your brother. Look at him. He's aw, all up. She's like, what'd you guys do? I said, we just went out and smoked a joint and took two hits. She's like, lightweight. We're all on ass. I'm like, what?

[A]

That's y.

[B]

She's like, well, the two girls in the bathroom aren't. They're scared. I go, oh, they're not letting your brother. And he looks like he needs to. I go, oh, he don't look good. Yeah, you stood up erect as I've ever seen anybody rock back. And bam. Into that banister.

[A]

Hit that banister, boy.

[B]

Hit down. Start season a little bit, and I still don't know what's going on. And that's when Friday. That's when Friday had just come out. And Jennifer on point, runs over.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm thinking I just killed my car. That's right. Yo, she gets right over top of you, goes. You got knocked the out. Oh, my God. It was the timing of the era. Everything.

[A]

You couldn't have timed that any better? And I knew what was going on the whole time. I just could not move.

[B]

You were locked. So now I'm like, oh, my God. And Marguerite and Uncle Ed are upstairs sleeping. They're in the house. Yeah, yeah, it's lady. And the one girl goes to hit nine and she hits one. And I do the cpr cuz I'd already done this to Graham. I tilt your head back, I pinch your nose and I'm like, I'm trying to talk to you. You're not answering. Your eyes up, you ain't answering.

[A]

You got.

[B]

And I got my lips to about here. Get the off me. I said, don't call that number.

[A]

Oh my God, you got this close to my lips. And I just said, oh, hey, I'm good, man.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're good.

[B]

You were locked inside. And then those girls, once your tooth went through your, your lip, at your bottom lip, they started seeing blood and they were freaking out.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, dude, I screwed 17 girls all up.

[B]

You're like, ryan, you got to take me to the hospital. We are not going to the hospital.

[A]

Not only did I crush their night, dude, we knew we were get. We were getting major ass that night, man.

[B]

It was a very good possibility.

[A]

I'm thinking, like, it was a good.

[B]

It was, it was also. I want to give credit to your sister and I always have. Like, your sister had a Hugh Hefner eye. Every one of your sister's girlfriends, I remember one time she came to visit me in la and two of her girls that I had met from here were out there visiting like their cousins, coincidentally. And I got a couple buddies at my place. And I was like, well, my cousin's coming by with some of her friends, like, we're gonna leave. And I'm like, you might not want to leave. They go, what do you mean? I go, look, I have no idea. I've never met these girls she's bringing. But I'm telling you, my cousin only rolls with like nines and tens. They come down the hallway and they go, we're gonna stay.

[A]

There were so many nights at that

[B]

Jennifer scout for something.

[A]

She threw house parties, man. And it just got crazy in that house. Three and four girls in the bed, you know, oh, old man would walk downstairs, there's brawls on the floor. I mean, all kind of stuff like that. But yeah, she definitely knew how to pick them. She. Some of the stuff that happened in the house was hilarious. And my grandmother, of course, all the time, you know, she was always losing her mind over that kind of stuff.

[B]

So you're, you're.

[A]

That night was a tragedy. That was a tragedy.

[B]

You ruined it.

[A]

That's like everybody, man.

[B]

Everybody.

[A]

You get like five moments in your

[B]

life was like nineteen two. Yeah, nineteen to two. Something was happening.

[A]

Oh, man, it was something.

[B]

You ruined it forever.

[A]

Come on, man.

[B]

Years ago, your aunt Chris, she's your father's sister, she is getting. What marriage was this when we came all Is this second.

[A]

This was actually. Well, remember the guy that she was originally engaged with that she was going to get married, died in a car accident falling out of a jeep. So this was.

[B]

Is that right?

[A]

Yeah, this was the second guy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And this guy, would we call him Joe Dirter? I mean, this, this.

[B]

He had dirt under his nails at his wedding. At his wedding he rolled up with filthy hands.

[A]

Now, keep in mind here, we're a tight knit Italian family and we take care of each other. But it was so like in. Remember when Aunt Helen would say, like, make comments like, yeah, this ain't gonna last. Yeah, this ain't gonna last two months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But they were so pissed off at her for marrying this guy that they put him in the. You know, they didn't go out and get him a limo or not. They got the wagon. They were like, this ain't gonna last.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Last. We're getting the wagon for this one.

[B]

They gave them a station wagon for their wedding limo that we then bought for our. One of our. To pull around and get to school.

[A]

And we all had a great time.

[B]

That's our wedding limo. So we get back. You and I just talked about this the other day. We get back and this is. We're just punk kids and we want to around and stuff. And it was Bobby, I believe, right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So we didn't have. For whatever reason this day, we can't find a ball. We always had a ball. We can't find one. So we ball up a bunch of socks. And I remember Jay Larson used to make fun of me all the time. And then I see the Wahlbergs and they used to play softball and I'm like, there you go, dude. Whatever you got to do to play something.

[A]

A game.

[B]

So.

[A]

So with Bobby being out in front of that house and we were out there playing the one thing. I'm pretty sure you picked this up. But he was on coke.

[B]

Listen. That he was always. He was on coke. Yeah.

[A]

You have any personality?

[B]

Is that right? Yeah.

[A]

Only way he had personality.

[B]

So he's a child from. He's a half brother to My dad. Your father, right?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So he's there shitfaced. He's all coke, but he's also blasted. He's loaded. And he comes out, one of those guys where you smell it on him. And at this point, we're like. We're all, like, 12, and we're not little kids. We're like, we got the Margo socks. We can. We got arms, and we can. You up if we need to. You up. And he's like, I want to get in there and play. And we knew he was here. We're like, okay.

[A]

Do you remember what calls this episode for him to do what he did? It was me and Gary out there fighting, doing two feet away and kicking and punching and stuff, like.

[B]

So he's trying to separate.

[A]

Well, he did. He told us to stop, and then he came out and tried to pull, you know, a Bruce Lee move.

[B]

And then we. But do you remember playing football? We were throwing them passes, and we were throwing them far on purpose. And he's in dress shoes.

[A]

That's right. Y.

[B]

On the concrete sidewalk trying to run. This dude hits the sidewalk that came up and his face flapped like this.

[A]

Well, he's definitely not a professional faller because most people. Yeah, his face flat. Most people, when they go to hit the ground with their face, they might put their hands up a little bit. He just took it straight, just wrote it.

[B]

He put him back and bounced. Dude, we were. We were all. Yeah.

[A]

We were all like, dude, yeah, get everybody out here. Get the video. You know, get the. Get the camera. Oh, he was so tore up.

[B]

He was up, but he got up

[A]

because of that cook and whatever he was on.

[B]

He.

[A]

He tried to walk that off, and his right leg wasn't working too well, you know, he was beat up. That was a crazy time. He's the same person that was in our house for one of the. One of the. The holidays where he went in there and try to do, like, a magic trick and light, like, a big torch in the house or whatever, and it caught the damn ceiling on fire. He had some stuff with him, man.

[B]

Do you remember the time we did gravity hits at our Owings Mills apartment? That's when you first found out.

[A]

Yeah, that's when I could.

[B]

Also an aggressive way to first try weed, too.

[A]

That's when we kind of confirmed, too. I knew I already passed out a couple times from it, and then that was like a whole nother level, man. It just locked my lungs up. You guys were torching it, but, yeah, you guys were definitely Hammering it. You were getting it. And I tried that, man. And I mean, I was like a

[B]

stiff board turn gray, right? Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Give him some ice cream. Give us. Give him some ice. You know, you guys were trying to put everything. And it's. It just took me, you know, a couple minutes to come around. But you remember when I.

[B]

It just freezes you inside yourself, huh?

[A]

I tell people this all the time. Like, you guys go out and chase, you know, chase a high with, you know, using marijuana. I said, I can just. I'm high as anybody.

[B]

You really are. And you're. Honestly, we've learned one hit is all you need. So Aunt Marguerite works at Rite Aid at the time. Rite Aid on Eastern Avenue. And I've told the story. So this is her grandson who benefited here. Thank God.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So Aunt Marguerite and a couple other ladies. She works at Rite Aid.

[A]

It was a class. Asked you.

[B]

Yeah. They get accused of embezzling money from Rite Aid. And they're like, we are not stealing any money. But they're getting accused of it. She gets a lawyer. I remember the lady's name. We'll edit it. Net a prey.

[A]

That's right. Absolutely.

[B]

She gets net a prey. And net of prey says, you know, what are they accusing of? And they're like. They're accusing us steal money, and they're telling us that we have to take a lie detector to prove our innocence. And she said, okay. Like, it's illegal to force someone to take a lot.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

Tests. Absolutely. You can tell me right now. I don't give a. Are you stealing? Because if you're not, and you take that lie detector and you pass it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're in the clear. And she goes, we're not. They take the lie detector. They pass.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Comes out in the wash now that the execs above them are the ones embezzling and blaming it on these ladies that are, you know, just register women that they can get rid of. So they win. They win the class action lawsuit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

All. I think there were four of them. Aunt Marguerite.

[A]

There was actually seven of them. Was it.

[B]

Damn. She was the ringleader.

[A]

So, you know, she got the one that stood her ground and said, you're not rolling. Me and my grandfather supported her. Yeah. Because it was a, you know, big decision.

[B]

And she got like 1.4 maybe. Do you remember 1.2?

[A]

She got. It was 1.1.2. And then her lawyer fees and all that stuff. But what happened with all that still in the 80s? Oh, that's a lot of Money and

[B]

all it is, but also, you know, when you really get it, you start figuring out how life goes. It isn't.

[A]

Before that happened, Gray Pat was a master welder. And, you know, she worked at the Rite Aid or whatever. And we still had great Christmases and all this stuff. But when that, when that kicked off and that money actually came through, I mean, it was. It was party time and for the whole family. I mean, she was buying for everybody, bro. She was paying everybody's rent. I mean, she was.

[B]

This is what was funny. She got me a 12 speed. It was. I didn't even know Panasonic made bicycles. 12 speed. Panasonic bicycle. Todd got something. The thing I love about Aunt Marguerite is that if you know the land, the, the. The way Baltimore is fucking highland towns right here. She's like, we're fucking millionaires. We're out of the city. Y' all went right here, right? Rosedale, here. So.

[A]

So the old man was looking up in Kingsville at like 4 acres and building a beautiful house. And we were like, hell, yeah. And then we're like, we're going to Rosedale.

[B]

And it's literally. It is a right across the city line, but it is county and it's better schools. And you guys had a nice pool and a hot tub and modest home, though. It wasn't crazy.

[A]

No, no, no.

[B]

Did the right things with it. And I remember. And then you can tell me everything. I remember when Oprah Winfrey was in Baltimore and she had just left to go to Chicago to do her own show. And it would have been Oprah that was coming to the house to interview Aunt Marguerite. But we got Beverly Burke.

[A]

Remember Beverly Burke? Absolutely.

[B]

Beverly Burke was the new Oprah. They repl Oprah with a lady named Beverly Burke. And we were all like, Oprah's going to come to the house. And then Beverly Burke shows up. And I just remember being a kid and they were like, do not walk our. Our parents, like, do not walk through those cameras. Don't you make. Don't do anything. And then somebody knocked at that door.

[A]

They locked me and Gary in a roof.

[B]

Six kids run to that front door to try to get that Fifi's bargain too.

[A]

And we wanted camera time. They so how.

[B]

So tell me about how long, like, did that actually take? Cuz if, you know, in my mind, I'm a kid, it went from boom, boom.

[A]

It wasn't boom boom. It was years of that. Well, keep in mind here too. Think about this. You could look this up and this is why I get kind of confused on the time frame because remember when the Nintendo came out, we had the Nintendo. Like, everybody was getting a Nintendo Christmas timer after that. We had the Nintendo six months before anybody even heard of it. They. She got it from, like, overseas or something. We had the first inline rollerblades that were, like, on the west Coast. Nobody knew what that was. So we were getting stuff, and I'm like, do we have this money now?

[B]

You know what? Can I tell you one of my favorite jokes? Good. You know the hardest part about rollerblading?

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Telling your parents you're gay.

[A]

Well, you gotta think when I was

[B]

telling your dad is really it.

[A]

But they bought me those rollerblades because I was playing ice hockey at the time. So they were, you know, they went out and dropped, like most families at that time, you know, to go out and drop 2, 500 on all equipment. Like, yeah, let's do this. So they. They might have got a little bit earlier than we. Than we. That I think they did. But what I think they did, I think they hit it really well. And we're waiting for the right time to. Because, like I said, there was a lot of people in our. Like, she was paying. I mean, I mean, let's be honest.

[B]

Your dad's mental ill. Your. Your aunt's mentally ill. And she.

[A]

She was helping in house.

[B]

Right.

[A]

There's a lot of things in there.

[B]

I wouldn't be surprised if she helped my dad after his divorce and everything.

[A]

Yeah, she did a lot. There was a lot of things.

[B]

Sure of it.

[A]

Yeah. That money thing, though, for our family, the dynamics of our family, what it did, actually, it saved me and Gary from going to prison because it got us out of a neighborhood. It got us. I was at that time, I got. I got kicked out of three schools in this area. In middle school, man, we were fighting all the time. So if we didn't have a change of environment, we would have probably never made it. So that was the one positive thing about that. And then, like I said, man, I just. I wish your old man stuck around a lot longer than he did.

[B]

Yeah, it'd have been nice.

[A]

Yeah, it would have been nice.

[B]

So how did it all come about, though? How did the whole like, hey, we're being accused of this and we're gonna fight it come about.

[A]

They just.

[B]

That money obviously is missing somewhere, of course, so they just blame these ladies.

[A]

That was basically it. They thought they'd go after the people that work there in the pharmacy part or whatever. And my grandmother, she Was a lot of things. But one thing she wasn't, she wasn't a thief. She had principle. She was funny as hell and had principal.

[B]

Oh man.

[A]

But when that happened, a lot of, A lot of the, A lot of ladies that were involved with that one to just roll over and take a little, you know, paycheck or whatever. And she said, she talked to my grandpa. I said hell no, you're not going to call me a liar, a thief. And she went past a test.

[B]

It's not just on my word. I passed your damn test. You made me take.

[A]

So she literally headlined that whole thing where she went out and got the attorney and I mean it was huge. It was huge. And then like I said, the new we, you know, we had there. Who was the other person that came over house to do a new shooting? He was a guy that was. I forget his name but he was like a Greek guy that was on tv. But yeah, that was a pretty big case for them.

[B]

Do you. I remember being homeless too. And Aunt Marguerite took me in that again. She's already got three of her grandchildren living with her. I'm sleeping on the couch. But I promise her I'm working, I'm going to town.

[A]

There was no doubt.

[B]

I'm gonna get a place. I'm gonna get the out of here. Your hair. But I, I can't tell you how much I enjoy like being able to reconnect with you guys and all that during that time because I mean Jimmy died during that time.

[A]

Well, tell them about the time that we, we carried a coffin every damn year with the table in the yard. I mean we had some funny stuff.

[B]

We had my stand.

[A]

Tell them about the family polls.

[B]

You're right, I will. Let's go. Because that is a, that's a very thing. We, we were always pallbearers. We were always Paul bears. And we knew. I've talked about this in my stand up. Like you knew if you can get the leg in. That was the light. That's right. Front end was a two hander on something. It was PA city for a long time. And one time it's Derek, Todd, me, you, your brother. I think even Jennifer. And we're just eating crabs out back at your. At Aunt Marguerite sitting on the picnic table. And then when the crabs are done, no one says anything. We're cleaning up. Yeah, no one says anything. It's a heavy picnic table and we naturally and organically file into pallbearer position if we carried that table. And I'll never forget what you Said hopefully we don't have have to carry that coffin this year. I will never forget it. And I was feeling, everyone was feeling that. And you know me, we're just caring a pic table like me and you

[A]

are good at betting old people.

[B]

Cuz we had, yeah, we had our

[A]

money on an Helen every year and it never happened.

[B]

Every year lived everybody.

[A]

We thought we were sm.

[B]

You know something else I remember that I'll never forget and I always appreciate we did. Do you remember is obviously right before she passed, you and I went over to see her. Oh yeah. And it was like one in the morning and she was just older and always up asleep. And I'm home and I'm. I'm. It's 10 o' clock for me.

[A]

You were last two to close that out.

[B]

And we go in and your dad's downstairs and we were like this. I didn't know he was there. And Helen's hiding him, helping him, not telling anybody. So we go upstairs and she was on the phone with one of her friends. She goes, oh my God, I'm gonna call you back, blah blah. And then we just laid on her bed and sat there and talked to her. And it wasn't a month less maybe she passed. I'm so glad we did that.

[A]

Here was the thing in our family structure that made me laugh a lot of times because I mean that was great what we did. We were always we. I think me and you were kind of the head of that, but. But we always had each other's back, man.

[B]

Well, cuz, this was great, man. I love you. I'm so glad you did this. We got more to come tomorrow night. This was awesome. So before we wrap up, let's see what we got here.

[A]

All right, So I brought out a little something from the archives here. It was kind of my grandfather, Uncle Ed passed away here a couple years ago when he was 91. And I was just kind of going through all the old stuff that we had at the house, but this was the one that.

[B]

The will.

[A]

I got everything, brother. I got stuff.

[B]

Wait till you see. I have this.

[A]

I had to look at it. You were looking for this stuff?

[B]

Yeah, this is.

[A]

Wait till you see some of the stuff in here, man.

[B]

The state. Yeah.

[A]

When I saw this, I thought about you right away and I was like, man. But this was, this was locked away in a lock box. This is the one thing I wanted.

[B]

Register of wills.

[A]

So this was your dad's official tool when he was in the Navy. They kept that all that time. What that Belonged to your dad. That was when he was in the Navy?

[B]

Yep. For real?

[A]

Absolutely. It was a tool. My grandfather, even at that time, like one that, you know, a while ago, explained to me how they used it, what they did, and all that stuff, but that was your dad's, man.

[B]

Thank you. Dude, this is crazy.

[A]

It's got, like, another little piece that comes out that I, you know, used, I think, for. I think it's for ropes or something like that. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, no. There's somebody out there in the Navy knows how to use this.

[A]

But your grandmother. Your grandmother trusted my grandmother. And there was a lot of stuff. Like I said, we had. We were holding a lot of family stuff.

[B]

Great, man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, this is way better than the will. And I know how that ended up for me.

[A]

That was the one thing about our.

[B]

Our. Our.

[A]

Your grandmother, my grandmother, the aunts in our family, the dominant females in our family, and they were the dominant females because all the men in our family, they were, at that time, a lot of.

[B]

In the. Timmy.

[A]

Yeah. They controlled everything, and they. They hid a lot of stuff. There was a lot of stuff that didn't make its way out, you know, for, I guess, to keep the family name.

[B]

This is last will and testament of grandma. She did the right thing.

[A]

I think she tried to do the right thing. I just think, like I said, you know, some things, some people stepped in and.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Yeah, your name's on it.

[B]

Who are.

[A]

Sure your name's on it.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

That's what I said. I wish I would have found this. I wish I would have. I wish I would have pressed him a little earlier to go through some of his stuff a little earlier here. But when I saw this, like, why didn't we share this? And he said. You know what he said to me? He said, son, it wasn't. It wasn't my. It wasn't my burden. It was your grandmother and your aunt at the time.

[B]

Yeah, he ain't wrong. But to hold it.

[A]

Yeah, that's what sucks, guy right here.

[B]

This is awkward. What's this one?

[A]

And I wish we would have talked more about that family wagon we had, man, because there was so much funny stuff when that thing.

[B]

Oh, man. Thank you. You. I love you, brother. Thank you very much.

[A]

And like I said, we will get together here, and I will turn over a bunch of old family real tapes that we have that. I mean, you. You might be able to put some faces in there. I mean, some of that stuff's so old and some. Yeah, some of it has, of course, the kids all young and all that stuff.

[B]

Yeah, we can get that fixed. Thank you, brother. I love you. Thank you. Thank you guys, as always, really appreciate you supporting this show. Loving this series. Here, make sure you're subscribed. We'll talk to y' all next week. I hope you enjoyed the Way Back the Baltimore Junkyard series, Trying something different. Why not? We've got the ability to go do it. Why sit here and do the same thing all the time? So I hope you guys are enjoying it. And if you are, throw a comment in there, let me know and we'll keep on doing it. Yeah.