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Ryan Sickler
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Unidentified Friend
Hey, baby, we going to be here all day. We going to be here all day, baby. I like that kind of party.
Ryan Sickler
What's up, guys? Ryan Sickler here. I'm back home in Baltimore. Very excited to be here to do something that I've been wanting to do for a long time.
You guys been asking for years to
have my brothers on, old friends, family, and I'm finally able to make it happen. Make sure you're subscribed. You're going to get episodes for a while. We got a bunch of them coming your way. Can't wait for you guys to see this. Welcome back to the Wayback, everybody. Ryan Sickler here. Thank you guys for supporting this show, bringing you another episode of the Way Back junkyard series here. While I'm back in Baltimore, I wanted to shoot a bunch of content with my family and friends. You guys been asking for years to do this and what better place to do this than auto recycling of Baltimore. Shannon Patterson's junkyard here in Baltimore City. This episode here goes back again all the way to sixth grade. It's one of my best friends, Another brother to me, ladies and gentlemen. You've seen him on the Patreon Honey do with y'.
Chris Sheeler
All.
Ryan Sickler
Chris Sheeler, everybody. Welcome to the Way Back.
Chris Sheeler
Hey, it's. It's awesome to be here. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
Ryan Sickler
You're welcome, buddy. Before we get into how we met, let's get a little back history on you and your family. So obviously I know your dad very well. Your mom just came to see me in Phoenix on The road. Barbara, how did they meet? Like, what are they a Maryland family? Are they Maryland people originally?
Chris Sheeler
Maryland people, you know, met at Towson State University, which is now. University, yeah. So you were Towson before you left in California. Towson State, then, yes. So they were still Towson State. So they met there. Gosh. I mean, you know, my mom was what, 19, 20 when she had me, so long time ago. Too long ago, actually. But. But so met there, you know, and I'm. I'm Baltimore, you know, born, raised, have been in the area, I guess now since, you know, since what, last 50 years of my life. And. But that's, you know, that's what my parents met and, you know, been in this Baltimore suburb area for a long time.
Ryan Sickler
So where were. Was that your first home? Were you born into? So we met. Let me just tell everybody. We met sixth grade, somewhere between sixth and seventh grade. We all went to the same middle school, Sykesville Middle School.
Did you.
Was that the house you were born into, Lexington run?
Chris Sheeler
No, no. So I lived. Actually lived in Towson with my parents were young, right. So my, you know, I lived with my dad's. My dad's mother, my grandmother for a couple years when I was. When I was a newborn, and then lived actually right. Not far from here, Essex Bowley's quarters, you know, as far as, you know, not too far down the road from here, where we are from the junkyard here. And then actually moved to Columbia to go to.
Ryan Sickler
Benji's driving.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, Benji's driving. All, you know, all that stuff, like the whole. The whole gamut down there. So that's been a staple, you know, from. From, you know, know, being here as well.
Ryan Sickler
Was that your first home before then you went to Lexington?
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
So, okay, so you did elementary school. Like, was that pretty much in the city?
Chris Sheeler
Yep, elementary, which is like, down. Down, I guess, police quarters. Essex. So then we moved to, you know, got to lessons, run around the. The fifth grade, you know, time frame. Carol Town Elementary. I'm not sure what you. I met you the next year, but,
Ryan Sickler
yeah, I want the freedom. Freedom. Sixth grade at 6.
Chris Sheeler
St. Joe's St. Joe's right. Well, see, you mentioned Sykesville because Sitesville Middle School was our middle school, but we had the asbestos issue there. We had.
Unidentified Friend
We were just slamming about it because,
Ryan Sickler
like, hey, everybody, the building's so bad, sixth grade can't come. Seventh and eighth or five.
Unidentified Friend
What are you talking about, man? One whole floor has asbestos, but the other two are all right, man, let those kids. One year.
One year There you're rolling. Next year it's all back in the classrooms again. So. So St. Joe, Sykesville.
Chris Sheeler
And I guess from there I got, you know, geez, I mean, we're sitting here, what, I'm 51 years old. So we're talking about like, you know, I mean, what, 40 plus years.
Ryan Sickler
We meet in sixth grade. We don't move into that neighborhood until like the summer between 6th and 7th. So we all become walkers. You're one of the walkers?
Chris Sheeler
I'm a walker for sure.
Ryan Sickler
We all walk to middle school every day. Like the male post office, whatever weather, we're walking. Ain't nobody driving us and walking and walking back. So we meet you. Do you remember? Because I really don't remember. The way we met Lamb was. We'd walk by his house and this kid was just walking with us. All of a sudden, how do we meet? Was it through little League? Was it through the neighborhood? Like, how. What was it?
Chris Sheeler
I think from. I can recollect when we. Middle school. We met in middle school, obviously going to the same. To the same school. But then I think it was more about the area. Like, you know, I was at Lexington. Ron, you were on second Avenue. You know, we had other friends in the area there. So we just started playing sports, all that kind of thing.
Ryan Sickler
So we all play football in the cemetery.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, cemetery. And just pick up games. So it all just kind of picked up. And so we just really.
Ryan Sickler
Can I just tell you something out of. I'm just going to pause you for a second. Tell you something about that cemetery that happened. It was so embarrassing to me. You remember Mark Orlando?
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
All right. Mark Orlando. Who? CFL champion, great wide receiver, also a Towson State alum.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
One time was driving me home from school. We're passing that cemetery. And he goes, my mom's buried in that cemetery. I just start laughing like, no, she's not, dude. And he's like, yes, she is. I'm like, stop with me. Your mom is not buried in the cemetery. All of a sudden, we're just driving by the cemetery. Now your mom is buried in there. He's like, she's buried. And I go, no, she's not.
Unidentified Friend
He pulled in there, took me to the headstone. I said, oh, my God.
Wait, now is it.
Chris Sheeler
Hold on.
Unidentified Friend
Is this the one?
I said, oh, my God. She said, Mrs. Orlando. Basically, she's right there.
But hold on.
I felt terrible, dude. I felt terrible.
Chris Sheeler
But now is this. But hold on a second, because is this the same cemetery this is?
Ryan Sickler
Right by this, the Chatterbox Orphanage.
Chris Sheeler
This is where? Right by the church there. Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
That's the one that they used.
Chris Sheeler
Well, that's where my dad's buried.
Ryan Sickler
Your dad's buried.
Chris Sheeler
Mr. Sealer's on the headstone, you know.
Unidentified Friend
Right.
Ms. Orlando.
We just sit driving in the car together.
Is that right?
It is.
Chris Sheeler
It's the. It's the same. That little. The cemetery.
Unidentified Friend
Right. Church on the corner.
Chris Sheeler
We would play football there and stuff like that.
Unidentified Friend
Church on the corner.
Ryan Sickler
Were you there? Okay. That church on the corner is the first place I saw titties. You might have saw them, too. I mean, in life. Real in life. Titties.
Chris Sheeler
Okay. What.
Ryan Sickler
So this is the story. And you were. I know you were there because we all rode the bus back. This is ninth grade. We all. The bus stop was the.
Chris Sheeler
The church right there. Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
Where your dad.
Unidentified Friend
You say your dad's.
Ryan Sickler
We'll see.
Unidentified Friend
I'll drive by Mark Orlando and I'll cruise.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
And right here, we're all on the bus that day. Norris put on the bus. On the bus. And he used to get picked on. Actually, we might have been in 10th grade right before we got our license. 10th grade. Because the kid's in 9th grade, and he's picking on Norris, and he won't stop picking on Norris. And Norris is older, but he's, you know, at the time, just passive, and he's. He's not trying to fight this kid or anything, because if Norris snaps, this kid's gonna die. So we get off the bus. You remember this? And they go to square up. Finally, like, Norris has had enough, and rightfully so. This kid had been bugging weeks.
Unidentified Friend
Weeks.
Chris Sheeler
I remember. Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
So we get off in front of this church, and they square up, and they start fighting. The Norse is beating the. Out of them. And this girl. I think her name was Jennifer, I can't remember. Norris is on top of all fours, just wailing them up.
Chris Sheeler
Do you remember this?
Ryan Sickler
And the girl comes up behind Norris and, I mean, hit a.
Unidentified Friend
Hit a Justin Tucker 63 yards right in his nuts. I never in my life. I heard a boom. And he said, oh, he rolled over. He goes. I'll never forget. He goes, somebody get her.
Somebody get her.
He said, yeah. So wait. Oh, my God.
Ryan Sickler
That kid runs away. And Norris is like.
Unidentified Friend
We're all like you.
Ryan Sickler
You. Well, if you remember Shannon Moriarty. Shannon the best. Shannon was our old school. Like, she was our age Dirt, you know, head. Whatever you called him back then. Her brothers were Harley bikers.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
No, the whole.
Unidentified Friend
I'm talking about her older brother.
Ryan Sickler
She came up hard. And she told that girl, that boy has picked on Chris Norris for weeks. And he finally stood up for himself. And just because that kid's losing, he's your friend. You did that. Tomorrow I'm fucking you up.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah, I remember.
Tomorrow I'm you up. And we were all like, oh, even if I drove, I'm taking a bus tomorrow.
I promise. The girlfriend. The girlfriend next to her.
Ryan Sickler
So we get on that bus and Shannon Moore already walks in and it's already, it's palpable. It's 3 o' clock high, for sure. And she. Remember, she punched her in the face on a bus as an appetizer. She punched her right in a girl glasses. She's like, you're not gonna hit a girl glass. Shannon said, boom. Punched her right in the face. She goes, wait till we get off this bus. We get off that bus, and Shannon Moriarty grab that girl. Do you remember this? She had really big boobs for being in, like. And Shannon Moriarty grabbed her shirt and she ripped that shirt off. And that's the first time I saw titties in real life. Not in a magazine or anything.
Unidentified Friend
Like, I was like, oh, my God, there's some flash.
Ryan Sickler
And then she pummeled that girl like a dude. I mean, beat the out of her. And Norris, if you remember, he took
Unidentified Friend
her binder and he was skipping through the cemetery.
Chris Sheeler
You remember that?
Unidentified Friend
She.
That girl up, man. And we saw titties. Like, that's the first time. I was like, thank you, man.
Oh, my God.
Ryan Sickler
All right, so we meet, you sixth grade. We all walk to school together. We play ball together. What do you remember about coming over to our place on second Avenue? Let's start on second Avenue.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, God. I mean, as far. Well, I mean, you know, as far as with your dad and everything like that. You know, we just. Just great times there. I mean, like, you know, it was. We. We would all hang out there. We go up, like I said, up the street, pick up games. You're, you know, you're.
Unidentified Friend
You're.
Chris Sheeler
You're playing all day. This is like back when, you know, obviously street lights come on. You come home at night time and they come on and stuff like that. There's no. No time set. Just good times, fun times.
Ryan Sickler
We talked about this on this show. Do you remember the commercial? It's 10pm do you know where your children are? Because it was a problem that people didn't know where the.
Unidentified Friend
Their kids were.
Ryan Sickler
You had to remind them, like, oh, yeah.
Unidentified Friend
Oh, yeah, we have kids.
Oh, my God, it's 10 o'.
Clock. Yeah. You hear somebody whistle for dinner, the light comes on.
Yeah, my dad.
But that's.
Chris Sheeler
But that's what it was. And then, you know, you just. It was just every day there was like, you know, the way that technology is today, even sitting here. Technology and, you know, all the different apps and stuff like that didn't have that stuff back then. So it was. It was just simple to be outside and be with people and just. And do the things that you do. So, yes, it was a great time. You know, we had all, you know, and not just around your house, Second Avenue, but just people that were just all along the block and a mile away and stuff like that. Just easy to get to and just a lot of great times. So, yeah, fun.
Ryan Sickler
I'm gonna jump around because you had a. We had a wild neighborhood. We did had a lot of characters in the neighborhood. I want to know about the belly button stuff that used to happen with
Unidentified Friend
your neighbors that you used to tell us. We get all together, so we.
Chris Sheeler
I probably shouldn't say name for this.
Unidentified Friend
Yes, you definitely should not say their names for this.
Somebody will know them at some point.
Do not.
So. So.
Chris Sheeler
So we. This is now. This is where I was, Bunker Hill, which is not far, you know, down the road. You're a Second Avenue, just down this
Unidentified Friend
Paul Revere Lexington run.
Little, little. Little. You know, the war, the Colonial War, right?
Colonial Ware Court.
Chris Sheeler
So neighbor of mine, which I will say the Beckers, right, Went to, we're talking, I guess Liberty High School in a bit, but high school, he was probably sliced in middle school too. But we were out common area, just camping out. It was like, you know, Friday, we're all like in sixth, seventh grade, whatever it is. And there's a neighbor that said maybe catty corner to where this common area is. You know, it's like this is.
Ryan Sickler
And you're in a court.
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Unidentified Friend
But it's like, did you call to
Ryan Sickler
court or call to sack?
Chris Sheeler
I called her record.
Ryan Sickler
I mean, it was a cul de sac, but all growing up, it was a court until someone told us the name Cul de sac. That was so dumb, we started saying,
Chris Sheeler
yeah, so, yeah, yeah, me in the court, right?
Unidentified Friend
So.
Chris Sheeler
But where this, where this common area was, you could have like an angle of like houses that were up just another side of the street. And so it's like this time of the night was like six o', clock, whatever. It was summer, summertime, up in the window. You had like Split windows, I guess
Unidentified Friend
the two bed stuff make me laugh. So all of a sudden there's two.
Chris Sheeler
Two boys and there's like the mother and father and.
Ryan Sickler
Oh, wait, you're seeing this.
Chris Sheeler
We saw.
Ryan Sickler
Oh, I thought they told you about it.
Chris Sheeler
No, no. Well, this is that we confronted them and they told us.
Unidentified Friend
I didn't know you saw. Okay, my bad. Go ahead, continue.
We saw this. So we look up and there's, you
Chris Sheeler
know, there's like, I don't know, six, seven people out where the tents going up and stuff like that. And we see like the family just. Just with their fingers, just like the mother's poking the one son the belly
Unidentified Friend
button, the other son's poking the other.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah. And then I'm like, what the hell is going then?
Unidentified Friend
So they. Eventually it's supposed to go on for
Chris Sheeler
like maybe a minute or two, and then they. But they were like, you know, they had like, even the mother, like, no clothes on. Shirtless. Shirtless. Right. This is. This is true story. Shirtless. So they come downstairs with two kids that lived in the neighborhood and they come out and whatever like that. And so it was one. It was either myself or somebody else that was out there said, hey, what. What is going on with this belly button that you were dealing with a poking the belly button? And they got all kind of quiet and they go. And then somebody said, oh, the belly button game. Then the one kid started to really get upset and stuff like that. But it was. I mean, it was the oddest thing I have ever seen before.
Ryan Sickler
So they admitted to playing the. A belly button game.
Chris Sheeler
And they said, they. They do it once in a while in the evenings and stuff like that.
Unidentified Friend
I'm like, well, what is. What does that mean?
I think we know what it means. I think the belly button game is the beginning of it. That's what I think.
But it was very.
Chris Sheeler
It was really. It was very disturbing. For who, though?
Unidentified Friend
You know what I mean?
I guess for both of us.
Disturbing for those kids too. Like, what's going on?
They saw us in the window. I mean, it was just the most ridiculous. That's the.
Ryan Sickler
You learn when you grow up, like, everything, no matter what's going on in your house when you're a kid, it's normal until you then get outside of
Unidentified Friend
that house and go away.
Chris Sheeler
What the.
Unidentified Friend
Y' all get hugs over here and
Ryan Sickler
cereal and what's going. It's a different.
Chris Sheeler
And then you mentioned about seeing the, you know. You know, tis the first time up on the church lot with the. With the Shannon Moriarty.
Unidentified Friend
First time I saw titties was at a church.
Chris Sheeler
This was maybe like.
Unidentified Friend
Well, this is like a mother. What are you, sixth, seventh grade. A mother with no shirt on.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true. So that was pretty. That was pretty.
That's wild, dude.
Yeah, we're trying to say, oh, she's not having any clothes on them.
Ryan Sickler
I tell the story of my stand up. Like, we were very lucky to live in a neighborhood where there were a good dozen kids within the same age. I'd say six to eighth grade.
Chris Sheeler
All the same age. Yeah, yeah.
Ryan Sickler
And all pretty athletic. All had good arms. All like to around. All like to get in trouble. And everyone was a ball buster. And I. I wrote some nicknames down that we used to call people that to this day, I just will be sitting somewhere and I'll think of it. I will laugh so hard. Do you know what my favorite nickname is? We call it a kid Tartar.
Unidentified Friend
Tartar. This kid had plaque all over his.
He had so much black and all over his teeth. We nicknamed the Tartar. And then we call him that.
Like, it was like, Barry, you know
what's up?
Tartar. What'd he say? What would he say?
I don't got this no more.
That no more, man. We're like, yeah, you do, dude. You got a lot of tartar on your.
The best of the best ones. I'm not playing the game harder, bro.
It's hot.
Ridiculous. And once you know what happened too? Once somebody had a name, whatever the name was, it just stopped.
See him today. I'm like, what's up, Tarter? Like, I'm talking 51. You answer.
It doesn't matter. And I remember when we really choose this, you mentioned choose the sports teams. Like about football or baseball. You said, I'll take Tim, Give me Larry. I guess I'll take Tartar.
I guess I'll take Tartar.
He pop right up like that.
All what the was. He had like hair on his teeth, dude. And he had to live with that nickname. Like, who else could we get today? Call Tartar. Call Tartar.
Call Tar. Come down and play. Oh, my God.
Ryan Sickler
That was a really good one. One of my other favorite stories too is that kid that. Now I look back, he's probably autistic, but we called him the left looker.
Chris Sheeler
The left looker?
Ryan Sickler
Yeah, that guy. You talk to him, he just always
Unidentified Friend
looking, always looking down the left, always
looking to the left. You bet.
Ryan Sickler
You got tickets?
Unidentified Friend
We got.
Ryan Sickler
Why you.
Unidentified Friend
What's over there, dude?
What's over there.
Ryan Sickler
We have a lot of stories about like first porno and early porn on this show. And it. Depending on the age it seems to be, men in their 50s often would have porn in the woods. Okay. There was always a stash in the woods somewhere. I'm telling you, eight out of 10 times, people are like, yeah, it was in.
Unidentified Friend
I'd go in the woods. It was in the woods. Heaven in the woods. I'm like, it wasn't. We'd have a magazine in the woods. You can just go, leave it at the tree. Go back and look at the woods.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
But then. And I don't remember who got it, but someone got a porno. I just talked about this one called Snake Eyes. It was Snake Eyes.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
And it was just one VHS that we all had to pass around. It wasn't like the days where you could burn a CD or whatever. Like you all had to have snake eyes. And we gave it to Norris because we all shared this thing. And Norris hit it up in his. In his basement, in his chimney. And I go over, I think I'm with you one time. And he like goes up in the chimney and there's a ledge when you go up and there's a ledge here. Who, who.
Unidentified Friend
I don't even know how he figured that out.
Ryan Sickler
And that's where you would hide that. Where'd you hide it when you had it? Where would you keep it?
Chris Sheeler
Gosh, I probably, probably like in a drawer under clothes and stuff like that.
Unidentified Friend
Obvious places.
Chris Sheeler
Well, I mean, nobody was gonna look probably. But under like stacks of T shirts or like a drawer nobody looked at
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Unidentified Friend
I
Ryan Sickler
never, I never went through. I was not a snooper. I never went through my dad. My. Like I didn't know my dad had a porno until after he died and people were cleaning his out. You know what I mean? It was like one porno in there.
Chris Sheeler
I think my mom, when my dad died gave me his whole stash.
Unidentified Friend
I'm serious.
He's like what labels?
Chris Sheeler
No, just the magazines and stuff like that. He goes I don't want this stuff. You want, you want to take it? I'm like, well I gu something, you know.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah, I'll take it.
Chris Sheeler
So. But yeah, I mean I guess you said, mentioned about. You mentioned your brothers, you know, the drawers, I mean under.
Ryan Sickler
You ever go through your brother's stuff?
Chris Sheeler
No.
Ryan Sickler
So what's the age difference between you and Corey? Four years?
Chris Sheeler
Three and a half.
Ryan Sickler
Three and a half. It's like us and Todd then.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, basically. Yeah. So I never did. But I mean but you know, under a bunch of shirts like. And also like a comp. A drawer that no one's going to really check it. You know what I mean? So. But chimney. But when he had them in the chimney, like I don't know. I don't know how you can find a ledge. That's what I'm saying the chimney. But I mean, he had him. He had a lot of them too, which was.
Ryan Sickler
Tell me about. I want to talk about some of the. Because I got to give you props, man.
Unidentified Friend
We, we.
Ryan Sickler
You especially were very early on with the belts for.
Unidentified Friend
Nowadays you can get a belt for
Ryan Sickler
anything and they look great. But we had. Yeah, we had belts for Nintendo. We were playing Nintendo and Sega. We had Sega's one that really got aggressive.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, it was. There was some.
Ryan Sickler
Tell us about. First we'll start in your house. Tell us about the night you fought with your brother and your dad came down.
Chris Sheeler
Well, the big thing. The big thing. The big thing at our house, there was. I mean, there was tons. But the big one, the big game we always played was what the NHL hockey.
Unidentified Friend
Right.
Chris Sheeler
And it was when you had Mario Lemieux and Mark Messier and all that
Ryan Sickler
stuff you were paying. I always play with the Blackhawks. I had Steve Smith.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, I remember there was always the. What we said it was. But when I. When you and I would yell about it. But there was always the glitch with the man.
Unidentified Friend
Like, you know, as long as you got him down the center ice, you couldn't. You could potty chat, you couldn't stop him.
Chris Sheeler
But so we, so we, we had. We play that game and we created, like you said that, you know, we. I don't know who. Who did it, but we, we did the belt too.
Unidentified Friend
We had a nice bell for what it was.
They, you know, cut out piece of cardboard, trace it, aluminum foil.
Chris Sheeler
But like, but presto on it, right? Yeah.
Unidentified Friend
And then like the hot NHL hockey
Chris Sheeler
cards, like out of the. Out of the, you know, like the tops, pat and staple them all under the belt and stuff like that. So we all come over there, you know, we have like, you know, whoever was. Whoever was the champion that you had. The belt's up for grabs, right? We're playing it. There were so many times where I would tell you, remember, like, just get out of my house.
Unidentified Friend
You know, like, you know, because we're playing, I lose and 10 to 2,
you're like, call me when you're out of play. I'm like, it is me.
Ryan Sickler
10 to 2.
Unidentified Friend
Of course you would like instigated and stuff like that. My brother, I just beat the shit
Chris Sheeler
out of him, like, you know, like
Unidentified Friend
to applaud if I lose to him.
Chris Sheeler
But the biggest story with that was we were all there, the belts up there, stuff like that.
Ryan Sickler
You had the belt.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, maybe I had it. You did My dad. I guess we were all arguing or all fighting about the different games. My dad comes down from upstairs, like
Unidentified Friend
tighty whities on, like, T shirt. Just takes the console and just completely rips it out of the wall, Takes it upstairs. And we're just sitting. We're just a TV. TV's off.
He didn't say a word.
Came down and ripped that.
He didn't say, guys, just keep it easy. Just ripped it out of the wall. You know, the TV's off. And then. And then, you know, that was pretty much it.
Chris Sheeler
But I think I did. When that happened, I think I did retain the title. I think, though.
Unidentified Friend
No, you lost.
That's why you fought.
Oh, yeah, man.
Your brother beat and you ripped the belt. That's when your dad came down. Nothing is belt and everything else.
Chris Sheeler
It was bad. It was bad.
Unidentified Friend
Yes, that was.
Chris Sheeler
That was.
Unidentified Friend
That was another good one, too.
Ryan Sickler
We were also very early adapters on screen printing T shirts ourselves. Do you remember? We made James Brown free James Brown T shirts. We all wore them to school. We made them like, bad iron on stuff from Joanne Fabrics. We had free James Brown T shirts in high school.
Unidentified Friend
People like, what are you doing?
And they're all. They're all like, just as.
What do you do?
Ryan Sickler
So times at North Avenue, I tell everybody, like, we had zero parents.
Chris Sheeler
No.
Ryan Sickler
Yeah, nobody's there. However, we. The rule was, if you up, it's over for everybody. That wasn't for us.
Chris Sheeler
We were done.
Ryan Sickler
But everyone came over. Monday to Sunday, people are sleeping over. I said, I tell them how we're still all friends. And I'm like, would you let your
Unidentified Friend
kids do some like that?
Ryan Sickler
Like, no, but we're doing that. And I. And people ask me all the time. I'm like, listen, man, sports were the most important thing. Like, so for us, after my dad dies and Trudy's already gone, and now we have an option. We can either go live with our grandmother and arbutus, start a whole new high school, don't know anyone, start all over. Or we can stay in the community where we've been, stay with friends. We're not going to have a mother. So that's the best thing for us. So we have to go there, right? So we go there and I tell everybody, like, sports were so important to us. We all had to have good grades. We had to be. You had to be at practice, you had to wear your tie on. On game days, et cetera, et cetera. And you had to really show up. And. And if you up, you couldn't do it. So I said, we all graduated, I think, except maybe. And a couple of us did. All of us did good grades, all athletes, et cetera, et cetera. And I said, and this is a night. I wonder if you remember this. I said, they're like, what do you mean? I was like, there would be 12 people sitting in that tiny little house on a fucking Tuesday night drinking beer or. Excuse me. I remember it specifically. It was a Thursday night. We got Cheers and Night Court on here. We got Nintendo Little League Baseball going here. And you realize that you have a mobile due tomorrow of the solar system.
Chris Sheeler
Do you remember this?
Unidentified Friend
And people are like, what do you do? I said, I'll tell you what we did.
Ryan Sickler
We drove to Kmart just in time. Time.
Chris Sheeler
It was the most.
Ryan Sickler
Back when Kmart had. You could get little Styrofoam balls section because Joanne Fabrics wasn't. It had just come later, I think.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
So we go there, we get all these balls, and I'm like. We come home and I'm like, shannon, you're Jupiter.
Unidentified Friend
Timmy, you're Saturn, You're Pluto, you're. And we're just doing it.
Ryan Sickler
And then you went in the next day. Do you remember what happened to.
Unidentified Friend
The whole thing broke apart, but they
Ryan Sickler
gave you an A.
Unidentified Friend
The teacher saw it.
He's like. It was.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, it was Durkin, right?
Unidentified Friend
Durkin, for.
He gave us an A. He gave us an A.
He goes, hey, it was a good effort. He gave us an A. He gave us an A.
Chris Sheeler
But, yeah, I mean, I remember coming to you saying, hey, I got. You know, of course I'm staying here tonight. I'm not going home.
Unidentified Friend
And I say, but as.
We got a problem Thursday.
But we got a problem. I got this. I got this project, too. And I'm like, I can't if I
Chris Sheeler
don't get it done, you know, et cetera. So we. Yeah, we got. We got it all done. But it took, like, what, I don't know, three, four, five. You know, just doing it. Like, putting it together.
Ryan Sickler
But, I mean, everyone working together, everybody making sure no one got in trouble, that we could keep doing this as long as we could. There had to be a yin and a yang. You couldn't just be. We don't go to school. We sit here and smoke cigarettes and drink beer.
Chris Sheeler
And that's. What you mentioned was amazing, which we could have.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah, we really could.
Chris Sheeler
And it's amazing thing that you said about that was that with all the people that were over there on a given day, random weekends, obviously, parties and stuff like that everybody core. At least that we know, core wise, as far as you know, that was there. Like you said, everybody went to school or I mean, even in the world today. People that did that today probably wouldn't finish school. I mean, truthfully, you know what I mean? I mean, we get up in the
Ryan Sickler
morning, hey, listen, today CPS is coming to that house.
Unidentified Friend
We're all minors. We're not, you know, I mean, they're coming.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah.
Unidentified Friend
Where's the person that's supposed to be
Ryan Sickler
in charge of you kids?
Unidentified Friend
We would go to school and her
Ryan Sickler
boyfriend in Sykesville Apartments.
Unidentified Friend
Don't worry, we're caroling over there.
Ryan Sickler
Do you remember?
Chris Sheeler
But we didn't like in the morning get up and say, oh, whatever, let's not go to school today. And we just went to school and then it was like a repeat cycle. Come home and then do it again. And sometimes like, you know, I think I had a key to the house, I think, right?
Ryan Sickler
Yeah.
Unidentified Friend
When you just climb up on the roof and get through the window and
then you guys come and go, go, go. How you hell you're in my house without even me being here.
Chris Sheeler
Well, we got a key.
Unidentified Friend
Or somebody had like a legacy key and pass it around.
Legacy key. Get the out of here with legacy. So all you had to do was hop up on the side roof and pop that window. We couldn't shut that window. Everybody would cut. We'd be in there and coming home.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, God.
Ryan Sickler
Oh, let's talk about sleepovers at your house. I only did it. I think I only did it once.
Chris Sheeler
I never came back with the, the hamster.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah.
Chris Sheeler
Okay, well that was. I can see why. Probably why, I mean, so, so the, the hamster. The hamster in the cage. And just probably like, you know, obviously hamster has chips in the case. It's what, sixth grade, seventh grade early. But the hamster just ran the wheel, right? Ran the wheel.
Unidentified Friend
You're wearing the wheel all night. Like a crack hands,
you're on the floor. And I remember, I think like, I don't know, it's like one o' clock in the morning. You go, I just can't. I just can't take this anymore. I got ships off in my head, in my hair.
Chris Sheeler
I got
Unidentified Friend
shipping in my face and my mouth and I'm like, I ain't spending the night over here. God, dude, that's ridiculous.
You didn't get any sleep. And the chips all over the floor.
Ryan Sickler
Do you remember putting everybody's memory to the test? Do you remember what pet we had at North Avenue. Think about it.
Chris Sheeler
With pet.
Ryan Sickler
It was. It was poor. It was such a poor little thing we commented on all the time.
Chris Sheeler
Did you have you get it Ferret? No, but it was something similar.
Ryan Sickler
It was. It was a floppy eared rabbit.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, the rabbit. Yeah. Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
So we had a rabbit in the. So, all right, so after my father dies, we get moved into that apartment 9 12. And that's where we're all talking about. And in that apartment is everyone's doing what I mean, I'd come up to my bed and be like, can you guys, can you stop in here so I can go sleep tonight?
Unidentified Friend
Guys, non stop.
Ryan Sickler
Like go.
Unidentified Friend
My mom's bed. Nobody. You know what I mean? Why don't you go in there? So what if it's got a bunch of geese everywhere in there. Just look past it. Look past it. You're getting pussy. Why are you in my bed?
Ryan Sickler
So the night. So my little brother at the time, God, he's 13, we're 16. We're in this house. Zero parents.
Unidentified Friend
Oh yeah.
Ryan Sickler
And we'll let him. There's so many people in the driveway area.
Chris Sheeler
Like there's ram cars park.
Ryan Sickler
You get blocked in and everything. When Todd would want to drive young so we would let him be like, move the cars.
Unidentified Friend
Yeah.
This might be the best story, one
Chris Sheeler
of the best ever there as far as from. From your brother's perspective. But so anyway, we're in the house. I don't know, we're probably just same thing, playing the video games, whatever. Like that. Todd comes in and goes, Ryan's people trying to leave. And you know your cars, your car's boxing. And I just pull it out. He can you go? Yeah, here's how. Here's the key. Let's just go. Let's go. Pull it out. All right.
Unidentified Friend
So Todd's. He's like cool, you know, he's 13,
Chris Sheeler
he wants to dry. He comes out, he gets in the car, but he's gone for like. He's gone for like, you know, not long. But it's like longer than you think, right? You just pull the car back in, back in. Next thing you know, you hear like this, you know this of the steps.
Unidentified Friend
He butters the person out. Ryan, Ryan, call Ma. Hit the propane tank on the side of the house immediately. We're smelling it like a whistling. You guys hit the propane tank right beside the building.
So that's how shitty of a place we are.
Ryan Sickler
We're getting powered by propane for this. That's where our heat and our gas and everything's coming from this little house. House? This little what? It wasn't even a house. It was a duplex.
Unidentified Friend
And Ty's going, what's that? What's that whistling sound?
Ryan Sickler
Stinks like propane so bad. So he calls my mother, and she's like, I'm not coming over there.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, just turn the valve off and leaves it.
Unidentified Friend
The things had copper wires hanging out of this thing. It's sideways like this. We look up and it says, it could blow a city block apart, this thing. If it blows up, we're still in
the house playing games, and we're just
people smoking, smoking cigarettes. I'm like, stop smoking cigarettes. We're gonna die. There's no smoking for one night, everybody.
Oh, my God.
Chris Sheeler
That might have been the funny just
Unidentified Friend
how he was out of breath, too.
He was so excited to drive cars. And he came out. We're like, what? Oh, no. My mother couldn't have cared less. It could have. You know what could have happened? It could have been like, eight kids dead in that house. My mother would have been like, boom.
I mean, but it was. That was unbelievable. That was one of the biggest times crashed the show.
Ryan Sickler
Okay, let's talk about how we used to go blow up mail.
Chris Sheeler
Oh, I was just telling stories.
Unidentified Friend
Let me explain who this guy was
Ryan Sickler
first, because I've talked about him before. But there was a family. They were called the Dogs. And I believe one of them might be gone now. Maybe both are at this point.
They were.
Listen, I'm not even going to sugarcoat here. They were a family that lived on a hill off the to of the road with no indoor plumbing.
They.
The kid had been suspended multiple times for his stench and his smell. They tried to put him in the showers at school. He refused to do it. They were just a really dirty. I mean, almost hillbilly. Really?
Unidentified Friend
They were hillbilly people?
Chris Sheeler
Yeah. It was either mountain people, like West
Ryan Sickler
Virginia mountain people that relocated. And he would. With people. He wasn't innocent. He would be like with people because they would with him. But we would go and we would take M80s. Go ahead.
Unidentified Friend
M80s.
Chris Sheeler
And so where the house was.
Unidentified Friend
The house.
Chris Sheeler
Like you said, the house was pushed up on the hill. Right. So the house is further away, called the road.
Unidentified Friend
Oh, yeah. Oh, it wasn't even a real road.
I'm going to be tartar on hill.
I mean, I can't recall the name of the road now, but if you said, I know exactly what you're talking about, but. So the hills up on the house
Chris Sheeler
up on the hill. And the. And the mailbox is way down from the house, like right off of the street. So we would drive, you know, weekend. What it was Friday, Friday, Saturday night, I think it was. Who, like have somebody had the M80. I know the M80s.
Ryan Sickler
Oh, who know?
Unidentified Friend
Everybody.
Chris Sheeler
Shannon might have had them too, but everybody had the.
Unidentified Friend
Everybody had that made ease.
Chris Sheeler
And so we would, you know, put that meeting in the mailbox. Like, you know, you light it, you drive away. I don't know how long it took. Would it take like 10 seconds?
Unidentified Friend
Seconds.
You know, you're like just. Just like boom.
Ryan Sickler
The sides would blow open, the back would shoot off into the leaves.
Unidentified Friend
The leaves. And we're leaving the thing you always
Chris Sheeler
do too, you should never do, right? What do you do? Like you dry back to the scene of the crime, right? You come back around the corner and then we take five minutes, come back and then the mailbox, which is usually a little, you know, metal mailbox, just completely gone off the. Off the. Off the post. It's just a post there. And then the next day we drive by, right, because they had to get the mail.
Unidentified Friend
They have like a little pale.
A five gallon box.
Just a mail.
We were doing.
They.
They spent money on mailboxes. We blew that mailbox up so many times. They probably left that bucket up like it's a five gallon bucket. It said male, had a flag. And then we threw an M80 in that. That was bulletproof after that.
Ryan Sickler
Godamn.
Chris Sheeler
I think, yeah, I think that was
Unidentified Friend
the end of our run.
Chris Sheeler
I think there was one time where the father, he came running down the hill too. At one time, I think when we had. I mean it was. It was a close call, but that was. Yeah, that was. That was funny. That was unbelievable.
Ryan Sickler
Let's talk about. I don't want to get heavy on it, but I do want to talk about the crazy coincidence. So I've known you since sixth grade. My father dies November 27, 1989. I'm in college. I remember your dad had a brain tumor. I went to visit him in the hospital a couple times actually, because it was right down. Where was he?
Chris Sheeler
Johns Hopkins.
Ryan Sickler
Hopkins by. I was not far from my school. I go see him after school. And then your dad ends up dying the same day my dad dies. How many years later?
Chris Sheeler
What year was it he died in? 95.
Ryan Sickler
95. So six years later. That's crazy. To know somebody as long as we've known each other and then our dads die on the same day is pretty wild.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah. I mean, and it's. It is strange. And we thought we did it. We. And I was. I was a guest on the Honeydew with you all a couple years ago when we did. Talked about this. But it's. That is surreal though. Like, I mean, like, you know, you thought. Because again, you can always say it's a coincidence or just a day two people died. I mean, I guess it's small. If I looked it up, like, you know, your dad. My dad who died on the 27th. Probably a lot of people. You know what I mean? But when you have a connection like that and it's. And two different. Dies at the same day, you have to. But, you know. And I do. But you have to believe in a higher.
Ryan Sickler
Oh, yeah.
Chris Sheeler
Higher being, you know, God. Purpose of the.
Ryan Sickler
Look, right over there. Right now, over there. So I walk in today. Mr. Roy starts talking to me about my. Out of nowhere. He's like, I remember the day your brother called me. And I'm like, oh, man. So I'm walking around just looking. We're setting up everything. And Shannon's got these clamps up here. And it says they're. They're called Irwin Clamps. Ir. That's my dad's name. Derek, his son. My daughter's middle name. We all were in Palm Springs last year. It was Shannon, his daughter, Jimmy, his daughter, me, my daughter. I think it was just the sixth. Kevin came, but he didn't go. We go to do an escape room. You ever do Escape room?
Chris Sheeler
Yeah. Yeah.
Ryan Sickler
So we're all in there. You know, they come in to tell you the story of the room and everything. His name, Irwin.
Chris Sheeler
Wow.
Ryan Sickler
I was like, get the fuck out of here. So I 100% believe in all that. I firmly. He's obviously here for this. And also I believe that these signs are things that are telling us, number one, you're aware, and two, that you are doing the right thing. You know what I mean?
Chris Sheeler
Yeah. Never. Sure.
Unidentified Friend
Dude, thank you for doing this.
Ryan Sickler
This was a really fun episode.
Unidentified Friend
We're gonna do more together. We're gonna do a big group one.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, man.
Ryan Sickler
Tomorrow. And. And it's something I'd like to keep coming back and doing. So thank you for doing this, brother. I love you.
Chris Sheeler
Yeah, I love you too, man.
Ryan Sickler
This is great. This is Ryan Sickler here. The Way Back the Junkyard Series. We'll talk to you all next week. I hope you enjoyed the Way Back to Baltimore Junkyard series.
Trying something different.
Why not? We've got the ability to go do it.
Why sit here and do the same thing all the time.
So I hope you guys are enjoying it. And if you are, throw a comment in there, let me know and we'll keep on doing it.
Chris Sheeler
Sam.
Release Date: March 5, 2026
Guest: Chris Sheeler
Theme: Childhood memories, growing up in Baltimore, friendship, mischievous adventures, and meaningful nostalgia among long-time friends.
Episode 114 of The Wayback is a riotously nostalgic journey with Ryan Sickler and his childhood friend Chris Sheeler, taped at an auto recycling junkyard in Baltimore. True to the “Junkyard Series,” the episode is packed with laughter, wild neighborhood tales, makeshift games, and wistful looks back at their adolescence in Baltimore’s suburbs. The two reflect on their tight-knit crew, the shared sense of mischief, and the enduring bonds that shaped their lives.
The origin of neighborhood championship “belts,” using cardboard, foil, and hockey cards for their heated NHL video game tournaments ([22:58]-[24:19]).
The group’s do-it-yourself mentality extended to making “Free James Brown” t-shirts with iron-on logos ([25:29]).
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Description | |-----------|---------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 06:29 | Ryan | "He pulled in there, took me to the headstone. I said, oh my God." | | 07:37 | Ryan | "That church on the corner is the first place I saw titties." | | 10:39 | Ryan | "That’s the first time I saw titties in real life. Not in a magazine or anything." | | 15:13 | Chris | "It was the oddest thing I have ever seen before." | | 17:30 | Friend | "See him today, I'm like, what's up, Tartar? ... I'm talking 51, you answer." | | 23:55 | Chris | "We had belts for Nintendo...cut out piece of cardboard, aluminum foil...NHL hockey cards..." | | 28:41 | Ryan | "Everyone working together, making sure no one got in trouble, so we could keep doing this..." | | 37:57 | Ryan | "To know somebody as long as we've known each other and then our dads die on the same day..." | | 39:22 | Ryan | "I 100% believe in all that. ... These signs are telling us...that you are doing the right thing."|
Episode 114 of The Wayback is a masterclass in storytelling, camaraderie, and the formative power of a close-knit crew. Ryan and Chris embrace the misadventures, occasional chaos, and bittersweet milestones of their adolescence—capturing the spirit of a time when friendships, laughter, and innovation helped them stumble through growing up. Their stories are as hilarious as they are heartfelt, making this episode a nostalgic highlight of the Junkyard Series.