59: The Wayback #59 | Libbie Higgins

Summary

Podcast Title: The Wayback with Ryan Sickler
Episode: 59: The Wayback #59 | Libbie Higgins
Release Date: February 13, 2025
Host: Ryan Sickler
Guest: Libbie Higgins

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Introduction

In Episode 59 of The Wayback with Ryan Sickler, host Ryan Sickler welcomes Libbie Higgins to share a heartfelt and nostalgic journey through her formative years. The conversation delves into Libbie's childhood experiences, adventures, and the pivotal moments that shaped her into the person she is today.

Libbie Higgins' Early Life and Name Change

The episode opens with Ryan and Libbie discussing the significance of names. Libbie reveals her decision to alter the spelling of her nickname:

Libbie Higgins [03:20]: "Libby is a nickname anyway. So Elizabeth is my middle name. And in about sixth grade, I was always a L, I, B, B, Y. Right. And that was too plain to me. So what I did was concocted a plan to change the Y to an ie."

This subtle change not only redefined her identity but also set the stage for her and her friends to experiment with self-expression.

Middle School Adventures: Ouija Boards and Pass Out Games

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the mischievous activities Libbie and her friends engaged in during middle school. They frequently played Ouija board games and participated in a daily "pass out" game.

Libbie Higgins [04:34]: "Every day after school, Rhonda and Kathy, we would play either one of two things. We would contact the dead on a Ouija board or we would play the pass out game."

The "pass out" game involved a ritual where friends would press forcefully on each other's chests to compel a response, leading to humorous and sometimes embarrassing moments.

One particularly memorable incident involved Libbie accidentally passing out and being publicly humiliated for it:

Libbie Higgins [06:23]: "But I continued to do that every day until one time when I woke up or came to one of the girls said, you farted so loud when you were out. And I was like, what? Because it wasn't acceptable at that time to fart in front of your friends."

Encounters with the Supernatural

Libbie shares intriguing stories about their Ouija board sessions, notably their attempts to contact teenage boys who had passed away. These séances often took unexpected turns, blending the supernatural with the typical adolescent quest for identity and connection.

Libbie Higgins [07:16]: "In our case, I never moved the thing. It was the other girls. Because what was happening on a regular basis is we were contacting teenage boys that were dead. And these ghosts wanted to have sex with our earthly body."

Despite the other girls' enthusiasm, Libbie never experienced anything during these sessions, leading her to question the authenticity of their activities.

Pranks and Mischief

The conversation shifts to the lighter side of Libbie's youth, highlighting her and her friends' penchant for pranks. From prank-calling local businesses at odd hours to deceiving neighbors, their mischievous antics were a staple of their adolescence.

Libbie Higgins [14:00]: "We would slap call any Asian restaurant and just prank the shit out of them until usually their son would get on the phone like, my dad's an old man."

One notable prank involved impersonating a septic service company, causing genuine panic among unsuspecting residents.

Fashion, Crushes, and Personal Interests

Libbie reminisces about the fashion trends of the time, her crushes on boy bands, and her personal hobbies. She shares amusing anecdotes about her attempts to emulate her idols, including crafting cardboard cutouts of celebrities like Joey from New Kids on the Block.

Libbie Higgins [24:40]: "That's Joey. That's the closest I ever got to Joe."

Her rooms were adorned with memorabilia, reflecting her deep admiration for the pop culture icons of her youth.

High School Experiences and Personal Growth

Transitioning into high school, Libbie discusses her involvement in sports and extracurricular activities, albeit humorously noting her lack of athletic prowess.

Libbie Higgins [21:42]: "That's when she started using that hairspray and curling that hair. And I'm telling you, there's a lot of hairspray in that hair right there."

She also touches upon the challenges of maintaining one's identity amidst peer pressure and societal expectations, ultimately finding solace in her evolving interests and self-awareness.

Conclusion

Episode 59 of The Wayback with Ryan Sickler offers a nostalgic and candid glimpse into Libbie Higgins' past. Through humorous tales and reflective insights, listeners are invited to ponder their own formative experiences and the enduring impact of youth adventures.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Libbie Higgins [03:20]: "Libby is a nickname anyway. So Elizabeth is my middle name... making me almost a different person in my mind."

• Libbie Higgins [04:34]: "Every day after school, Rhonda and Kathy, we would play either one of two things. We would contact the dead on a Ouija board or we would play the pass out game."

• Libbie Higgins [06:23]: "But I continued to do that every day until one time... you farted so loud when you were out."

• Libbie Higgins [07:16]: "In our case, I never moved the thing... we were contacting teenage boys that were dead."

• Libbie Higgins [14:00]: "We would slap call any Asian restaurant and just prank the shit out of them until usually their son would get on the phone like, my dad's an old man."

• Libbie Higgins [24:40]: "That's Joey. That's the closest I ever got to Joe."

Follow Libbie Higgins

Libbie encourages listeners to connect with her across various platforms:

Libbie Higgins [29:24]: "You can probably figure that out. If you can't, don't look me up and Patreon Tick Tock Instagram. Please follow me for whatever it takes. Just do it."

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Transcript

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Libby Higgins]

Hey baby, we going to be here all day.

[Ryan Sickler]

We going to be here all day, baby. I like that kind of party. Welcome back to the Way Back everybody. I am Ryan Sickler. Ryan Sickler.com and Ryan Sickler on all your social media. I am very excited to have here today. On the way back, ladies and gentlemen, Libby Higgins. Welcome to the Way Back, Libby.

[Libby Higgins]

It's me, Libby Higgins.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thank you for being here with me.

[Libby Higgins]

Thank you.

[Ryan Sickler]

Promote whatever you'd like, Libby Higgins.

[Libby Higgins]

You know the best thing to do to find me is to go on an application called Google and you can type in Libby Higgins and you can find a myriad of sites.

[Ryan Sickler]

Myriad. Good word.

[Libby Higgins]

Instagram, Patreon, YouTube, tick tock, Friendster.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that real? Is that still.

[Libby Higgins]

That's. No, but I was almost forgot about friends there until he was also on meet. Was it Black Planet? Remember that one? No, Black Planet was like a MySpace for black people.

[Ryan Sickler]

Was it really?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, and you were on there too.

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah, because I wanted to be on everything.

[Ryan Sickler]

Got it.

[Libby Higgins]

Here we are.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, here we are. Let's talk about your. Your upbringing. But something you said to me before when we talked was that you decided to change your name. And I always thought that was interesting because I. I do know a couple kids. I was mentioning you. There was a kid in our school, I shouldn't say his name, but he wanted to change to Michael Jordan and He's like, everybody call me Michael Jordan. And we're like, we're not going to do that. We're de. We're going to make fun of you about that, but we're never going to call you Michael Jordan. That's what we're not going to call you. And then I worked with another girl who had changed her name twice.

[Libby Higgins]

And did you abide by that?

[Ryan Sickler]

I, I don't. You know, it's your choice. I just think it's, it's interesting. I want to know, like, so you wanted to change your name from Libby to something else?

[Libby Higgins]

Well, Libby, Libby is a nickname anyway. So Elizabeth is my middle name. And in about sixth grade, I was, I was always a L, I, B, B, Y. Right. And that was too plain to me. So what I did was concocted a plan to change the Y to an ie.

[Ryan Sickler]

Got it.

[Libby Higgins]

Therefore making me almost a different person in my mind.

[Ryan Sickler]

Because you had a different spelling.

[Libby Higgins]

Right.

[Ryan Sickler]

Same name.

[Libby Higgins]

And then my friend Kathy changed her name from Y to I E. And my friend Rhonda took off the H and spelled it Rhonda. So there was the three of us and we really were trying to revolutionize change, changing your name. And we did.

[Ryan Sickler]

I mean, you changed the spelling.

[Libby Higgins]

The spelling, the spelling. But I really believe.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did it work?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Moving forward to school. Went by ie and everything.

[Libby Higgins]

Everybody look at that. Everybody went along with it. So that just goes to show you that if you don't like something about yourself, just change it and everybody will go along with it.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right, let's talk about some games you play. Growing. Because you and I are the same age. And you mentioned one before we started. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about that one. But talk to me about what you would do.

[Libby Higgins]

There were a. There were several years, it was probably fifth through seventh grade, that almost every single day after school, Rhonda and Kathy, who I just mentioned, we would play either one of two things. We would contact the dead on a Ouija board or we would play the pass out game.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's the one I forgot about. Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

And this wasn't just once or twice a month.

[Ryan Sickler]

Every day, all three of you taking serves. Every day?

[Libby Higgins]

Every day.

[Ryan Sickler]

And what was it? Against the wall or tell me how you did.

[Libby Higgins]

So our particular method is we would take in 10 deep breaths.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay.

[Libby Higgins]

Then hold your breath. And your friend would press as hard as they could onto your chest.

[Ryan Sickler]

Are you standing up against the wall?

[Libby Higgins]

Against the wall. And at that point you would, hello, it is Ryan.

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[Libby Higgins]

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[Libby Higgins]

Pass out. Now. I'm not sure how any of us didn't die, I'm going to be honest. But I continued to do that every day until one time when I woke up up or came to one of the girls said, you farted so loud when you were out. And I was like, what? Because it wasn't accept acceptable at that time to fart in front of your friends. Now I'll fart in front of everyone.

[Ryan Sickler]

In here in their mouth.

[Libby Higgins]

And it was very humiliate. In their mouth. Yeah. But I. I guess I farted and I guess we just. I was just responsible for pushing people's chests at that point. I wasn't going to do it anymore.

[Ryan Sickler]

No. Because the next thing anyway is yourself.

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, you know, can you imagine?

[Ryan Sickler]

Never get over that.

[Libby Higgins]

You'd have to change schools.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. You'd have to. You'd have to get out of the state. I think you better run out of the state. So what? Pass out game. But you. Wait, you mentioned Ouija boards. So yeah, there it is.

[Libby Higgins]

And I. And in our case, I don't know what you guys did on the Ouija board. Did you use one?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, but only like three or four times. You were saying this was daily.

[Libby Higgins]

This was daily. Yeah, that was the one.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

Mystifying oracle. And there was a lot of mystification going on because apparently we. And I'm going to tell you right off the bat, I never moved the thing. Never. It was the other girls.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay.

[Libby Higgins]

That moved It. Because what was happening on a regular basis is we were contacting teenage boys that were. That were dead. And these ghosts wanted to have sex with. With our. Our. Our earthly body. So what I would have to do is lay on the bed and wait for a spirit to have sex with me.

[Ryan Sickler]

Wait, what? Hold on.

[Libby Higgins]

Yes. And then I would be laying there in the bed.

[Ryan Sickler]

Wait, nobody's asking any. Only the dead people that are showing up at your board are horny teenagers. Teenagers. There's not a car crash victim or a murder victim.

[Libby Higgins]

That's how, looking back, I know that my friends were moving it.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, but that's different than we're all moving it. Like, you would actually lay. It's almost like a seance. You're laying on the bed and calling the dead.

[Libby Higgins]

The two girls will be doing, you know, this part.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. And who's showing up, like, Kenneth is coming today.

[Libby Higgins]

I can't remember the name specifically. What I do know is that they wanted to have sex, and I was like, I guess I'll do it.

[Ryan Sickler]

So then you lay on the bed.

[Libby Higgins]

I'd lay on the bed.

[Ryan Sickler]

Straight virgin at this time?

[Libby Higgins]

Yes. Sixth grade.

[Ryan Sickler]

You lost your virginity, too?

[Libby Higgins]

And I'm like, ghost. I don't. Is he doing it yet? And of course, then they'd be pushing to, like, yes or no? Because you can see there's yes or no. I never felt anything.

[Ryan Sickler]

You never lied and said, oh, my God, no, never.

[Libby Higgins]

Because I. I wanted to be real with my friends.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did the other girls try switch or they knew you weren't gonna push?

[Libby Higgins]

I. I know that Kathy laid on the bed once. I. I'm starting to think Rhonda was a ringleader because it was only me and Kathy.

[Ryan Sickler]

Just start to think about it. Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

Because for many years, I didn't tell anyone about this. Tell someone a ghost, dude.

[Ryan Sickler]

But it never happened to you. And then Kathy laid down, and it didn't happen to Kathy either.

[Libby Higgins]

Well, I mean, none of us could feel anything because it's a ghost is what's important. And I just want to say to that ghost, if you're out there in the audience. In the audience, and you. Can you just comment on YouTube? Thanks. Because did I lose. Did I lose my virginity then, or did I lose it when I feel anything?

[Ryan Sickler]

You didn't. No. You have to feel it. If I would have said, I would have said, though. If you said I definitely felt a burning sensation or something, I would have said, yes, Okay. I would have. But you said you didn't feel.

[Libby Higgins]

I didn't Feel a thing.

[Ryan Sickler]

You got to feel something. I think you got to feel something. We used to play with. I say we used to. So there were two distinct times. Well, three, but two were at the same house over the same weekend. But one was the girl that lived next door to me. She was a little faster, and her girlfriend was faster. And they came over to my basement, and they brought a Ouija board and candles. And it was just the three of us in my basement. We had been doing. And I had done it enough where I'm like, you're pushing. You know. But we had been doing this and that for a few minutes, and then the candle goes out, and they're like, ooh. I'm like, whatever. Oh, you know, I take matches at the time. I have matches. And I'm telling you. And I'm bullshit on all this hocus pocus. This is the match pack. This is my match. That far away. That match goes in my finger, burns my fucking hand. I jumped up. I didn't care if they were about to give me a threesome. I turned all the lights on. I was like, everybody get the fuck out of here. Take your goddamn board. Go. And that was the first time. That was middle school. The second time was ninth grade. We were at my friend's house, and his sister was two years older than us. He and I are freshmen. She's a junior. Their parents go away, they throw a rager, and she and some of her girlfriends are doing the Ouija board. So we're gathering around to watch, and they come up with this guy named Edgar. And he had been murdered in this area and all this stuff. And this is 90. Was freshman, is 87, right? So that was a Friday night. So Saturday we go up to the library and we get microfiche. And you know who we fucking find? We find Edgar. And he had been murdered. The story they. I know they were pushing it, but the goddamn story they came up with on that board matched into at the library. So then we all go home that night. Now everybody wants to play it, you know, and get into it, but we had made a handmade one. We didn't have the Parker Brothers one. And that when my. When their dad came home the next day, he saw that he. Because weird shit happened. I've told this, but my buddy puts a pizza in the oven, and we're doing Ouija board. And at the moment, the girls say, edgar, if you're here, show us a sign. And the flames start coming out of the oven right on cue. And we're like, what the. So I go over to the oven and I'm like, you left the cardboard on the bottom of the pizza. You dumb. Like. But at the exact same time, that thing said, whoa. So his dad comes home the next day and he sees the handmade one and he goes off. He really got. He broke it over his knee, threw it outside. Trash. Yeah. And he said that the handmade ones are ones that'll really allow the entities in versus the Parker Brothers game.

[Libby Higgins]

And all ghosts don't like the Parker Brother ones.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, they ain't it on the.

[Libby Higgins]

They're like, we're not playing through toys.

[Ryan Sickler]

Ouija board. You did it a lot, huh?

[Libby Higgins]

We did a lot. You know what else we didn't made me think of this is. Do you remember in the phone book and the white pages when it would have the phone number, but then it would also underneath it say teen number?

[Ryan Sickler]

No.

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah, because sometimes I guess teens would have, you know, their own line.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, and God would be entered in as your own person. You'd just be right in the same home address as a teen.

[Libby Higgins]

Teen. And we would call every teen number we could find trying to get. I mean, we were horny. We wanted boys.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's what you were calling.

[Libby Higgins]

We're calling the teens to be like, hi, what's your name? And I'm sad they don't have that anymore because I think that would be a good.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's nothing but chomo.

[Libby Higgins]

Can you believe there was a time they had a phone book that said T number?

[Ryan Sickler]

No. And I used to. I don't even remember that.

[Libby Higgins]

We would just go through and just look for.

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[Libby Higgins]

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[Libby Higgins]

Hope a guy answered.

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, we would prank people all the time. We would call any Asian restaurant and just prank the shit out of them until usually their son would get on the phone like, my dad's an old man, you know, because he knew we were doing.

[Libby Higgins]

My dad's an old man.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's what. We would get that a lot. But we would do this thing too. There was a company in our neighborhood at the time called Fogel Septic and they would just come clean up, you know, septic products.

[Libby Higgins]

Oh my.

[Ryan Sickler]

There they are. They love Ellie. Look. Look at the breast cancer.

[Libby Higgins]

Wearing a truck, breast cancer guys.

[Ryan Sickler]

So we would call places all over Maryland just. We'd flip open the white pages and go that person. And call them at 2:30 in the morning because we'd be partying all night and tell them that we were with focal septic and that there was a problem in the area and that we were going to have to come over and pump their toilets and all this. And that they were gonna have to get up and get out of the house and get ready and that we'd be by in about 30 minutes and these people would panic. We'd get some of them that would just be like, I don't want to say dumb, but just so gullible. We were like, look, we're gonna have a crew there. We're gonna need you guys to make some pancakes. And baby. Okay, I'll make some pancakes. We're like, holy, what are you talking about? We would do this way before the jerky boys.

[Libby Higgins]

So if you're in the comments and you think you received a call from Fogel Septic, guess what? Me got your ass.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

Owned or boned.

[Ryan Sickler]

What else did you do?

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, God. As far as for entertainment.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Anything.

[Libby Higgins]

Growing up, I mean, I'm. I'm scared to say because after those two stories it's like, am I okay the fact I played softball? Look, you might say to yourself, oh.

[Ryan Sickler]

My God, you got the Chelsea cut.

[Libby Higgins]

You might say. You might say to yourself, is that Michael J. Fox? And I'm gonna tell you, no, that's actually me.

[Ryan Sickler]

That is you.

[Libby Higgins]

And stirrups.

[Ryan Sickler]

Great elbow.

[Libby Higgins]

There was a point in my life when I. I'm not gonna say I wanted to be a boy, but if.

[Ryan Sickler]

You look at these two pictures of screaming it.

[Libby Higgins]

There was a point when Michael J. Fox and I kind of wanted to be Michael J. Fox.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that right?

[Libby Higgins]

I mean, look at the hair.

[Ryan Sickler]

Glad you aren't him now.

[Libby Higgins]

Poor. Yeah, poor Michael.

[Ryan Sickler]

He hold that bat like that.

[Libby Higgins]

Look at that left handed outfit though. I mean, that vest is otherworldly.

[Ryan Sickler]

I would have definitely said young man.

[Libby Higgins]

If I ever saw all the Time.

[Ryan Sickler]

Excuse me, young man. I definitely would have said young man.

[Libby Higgins]

And that's funny because it was that's such an old timey thing that actually would happen, young man. And I, I said, I'm not a boy. But how could they think otherwise?

[Ryan Sickler]

How could they know that they not.

[Libby Higgins]

The one on the left, there's no.

[Ryan Sickler]

Way to know that person on the left has a vagina. There's no way to know the Michael J. Fox hair.

[Libby Higgins]

What I'm gonna tell you though is look at that. She's a cool gal.

[Ryan Sickler]

She is a cool gal.

[Libby Higgins]

That polo shirt, that button up shirt and that vest. There hasn't been a better outfit since then.

[Ryan Sickler]

What are you sitting in front of? What's behind?

[Libby Higgins]

It's like a painting. It's a clown. It's a stuffed clown. But now that I'm thinking about it, my sister had a string around its neck and it was hung up by its neck.

[Ryan Sickler]

So it was just like, that's a, that's a dead clown behind a dead clown.

[Libby Higgins]

Okay.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, wow. Don Johnson over here. Look at Crockett over here. Crockett, what have you done? You didn't want to just be Michael J. Fox. You also wanted to be Dodge Johnson, didn't you? Did you want a pet alligator too? Did you want one of those?

[Libby Higgins]

Dude, look at the.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that baby blue under there? It looks like it is. That's not white on white, is it?

[Libby Higgins]

It's. It was pink. You can't tell because it's so old.

[Ryan Sickler]

Okay.

[Libby Higgins]

But it's pink. And there's a few things I like to point out. The shoulder pads.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, the shoulder pads.

[Libby Higgins]

The, the obviously the hair, but the, the gummy bracelets. Just hundreds. And the stance. Yeah, I'm not standing like a feminine little 12 year old girl. I'm standing like as a 30 year old man.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, no doubt.

[Libby Higgins]

With a feathered.

[Ryan Sickler]

Can we, can we zoom in on the hair? Let's talk about hairstyles back then. You know what I love about this though? It's definitely a mullet, but it's the hair over the ear for me.

[Libby Higgins]

Right?

[Ryan Sickler]

You know, I mean, just three quarters of the way over the ear. That never bothered you, just having hair.

[Libby Higgins]

I loved it like that because at times it wasn't here, but it was feathered. And when it was feathered and looking good. Yeah, you want it over the ears because you want that. Did you feather your hair?

[Ryan Sickler]

I had a mullet. A big time. I had a mullet so long that I could just take my hand like this right here and touch the back of it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Whoa.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was like Joe Dirt. And it was the shorter on the Sides and top. But I had done it as a. My friends were like, our senior year, let's grow malts and see who grows the longest one. I was like, okay. I'm the only idiot that you did it as.

[Libby Higgins]

A bit.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

You didn't do it because. Oh, there we go.

[Ryan Sickler]

There she is.

[Libby Higgins]

That's when she started.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, there she is.

[Libby Higgins]

She started using that hairspray and curling that hair. And I'm telling you, there's a lot of hairspray in that hair right there.

[Ryan Sickler]

It looks like it.

[Libby Higgins]

Look how cute she was, though. What an angel. The turtleneck and the cardigan.

[Ryan Sickler]

Now, that's staple sending me back, because like I said, we're the same age. This is every girl I grew up with right here. Big hair, turtleneck, cardigan, rugby shirts. Did you ever wear a rugby shirt?

[Libby Higgins]

I had the rugby shirt, but it said Coke. Yeah, Coca Cola. I'm a big Coke fan.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, me too. Coca Cola rugby shirt. I also. They had jeans, too. I had a Coca Cola pair of jeans. Oh, did you guys cuff your pants and roll them?

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, we cuffed them so hard. I don't know how. Just to think about if you didn't go to school with them cuffed.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

As tight as can be. You. You were a loser, a disgrace.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, you were. Yeah. There they are. There they are right there. That pegging them, they're called. We're not gonna change that term because.

[Libby Higgins]

You had to fold it over and then.

[Ryan Sickler]

I still can do it. You would take it like this and then tuck it over and then roll it up tight, tight, tight.

[Libby Higgins]

And would you wear. Yeah, the penny loafers?

[Ryan Sickler]

Penny loafers with pennies in them?

[Libby Higgins]

Yep.

[Ryan Sickler]

I was. I had a couple turtlenecks, but I was not a big turtleneck. I don't. They're not comfortable. To me, that MC Tedberg joke, I feel like is true. Like, it's a little person just choking you all day long.

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah, I never thought about that.

[Ryan Sickler]

It's. I would wear. I thought I was cool when I got the mock turtleneck.

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

Y'all ain't.

[Libby Higgins]

Not even the mock. What about a dicky?

[Ryan Sickler]

I never wore a dicky. Did you wear a dicky?

[Libby Higgins]

I think I may have had a dicky. Because if. If it's. If you know you're going to go to a place where it's going to be hotter and you just want.

[Ryan Sickler]

You just want that turtleneck look.

[Libby Higgins]

Right? Without all the. The extra. Look at it.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, there it is.

[Libby Higgins]

It's the look of the turtleneck without the heat, you know. Wow. That's incredible.

[Ryan Sickler]

I can't believe you wore that. No. What? No wonder people called you young man. You got that haircut, the dicky on, like. Young man, young man, come here and help this lady. Yes, I am.

[Libby Higgins]

I stopped getting the young man in high school. Thankfully.

[Ryan Sickler]

You did?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah. Because I started growing that hair out. Yeah, but I. I look back at those pictures. I'm not mad. I got those haircuts. I didn't cry. I know something. Because I don't think I was self aware enough to know that that looked like.

[Ryan Sickler]

Well, I don't think I thought it looked cool. It doesn't look like. It just looks confusing because I see those pictures and I. I say, that's a.

[Libby Higgins]

That's a dude.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's a well put together young man, that suit. You know what I'm saying? It's not. Yeah, you got a nice suit. And the other one before that, the ball. I mean, you look like a ball player. You know what I mean?

[Libby Higgins]

Hell of a ball player, I'll tell you that. I was terrible at every sport I did.

[Ryan Sickler]

Were you really?

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, God. So embarrassing. And I didn't know I was bad at it.

[Ryan Sickler]

When did you figure it out?

[Libby Higgins]

Like, later on in life. I'm like, I always ran the wrong way in basketball and I don't know, I. I just. There was a point where I was like, I don't think I was good at sports. That's okay. Not everybody's good at sports, you know.

[Ryan Sickler]

But you look the part.

[Libby Higgins]

I did, dude.

[Ryan Sickler]

You definitely looked the part that.

[Libby Higgins]

That young man can play softball. Are you playing?

[Ryan Sickler]

He can play some ball. Guys, you can't have this dude on your team right here. Did they ever do that? Say, no.

[Libby Higgins]

No. I mean. Because I think everybody looked like that. We all look like that. It's like.

[Ryan Sickler]

You're not wrong. I might have had the same haircut at one point.

[Libby Higgins]

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[Libby Higgins]

The whole team.

[Ryan Sickler]

Nobody have ponytails.

[Libby Higgins]

It's like. Wait, What?

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, did you ever sneak out. Do you ever sneak out of the house at night?

[Libby Higgins]

No, I was too scared.

[Ryan Sickler]

You were.

[Libby Higgins]

I didn't do bad stuff.

[Ryan Sickler]

You weren't like a daredevil at all with any of that sort of stuff?

[Libby Higgins]

No, no, I was not trying to get in trouble.

[Ryan Sickler]

So what would you do?

[Libby Higgins]

Didn't shoplift. Didn't. Oh, look at her. That's what she did right there.

[Ryan Sickler]

Lord Jesus.

[Libby Higgins]

Oh, look at her.

[Ryan Sickler]

Let's look. Is this your communion? Go back to the first one.

[Libby Higgins]

That was my communion where I married Jesus.

[Ryan Sickler]

Lord Jesus. Yeah. Did you. Did you get confirmed as well?

[Libby Higgins]

I got confirmed and that's when I started to fall off.

[Ryan Sickler]

Me, too.

[Libby Higgins]

Really? Yes, but in here, brother.

[Ryan Sickler]

Right there.

[Libby Higgins]

What was your confirmation name?

[Ryan Sickler]

I was just about to ask you, and I want to say. I think mine was Joseph. And I only think that because this church was named St. Joe, and I knew I'd never remember what it was because I didn't give a About it. I do think it was Joseph, though. And they had to. We had to make, like. Almost like a. Like a damn. What do you call them? Like a Miss America sash. You know what I mean? It had Joseph. Like, they made us make that with, like, doves on it and stuff.

[Libby Higgins]

I never got to make that Communion.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's when you got a little money.

[Libby Higgins]

You got some money.

[Ryan Sickler]

My mom stole all her money. Communion money. Oh, yeah, you heard me, Judy.

[Libby Higgins]

I got extra money because I sang a solo song.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, you did? At the church. That's nice. What's this next one? That's. I mean, you could be a keyboard player for an 80s hair band right there. You could be, you know, you could be keyboard for White Snake.

[Libby Higgins]

This was one of the last years I publicly liked New Kids on the Block.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, is that. What the hell? Oh, now I see it. What's the glare on. Who's that right there?

[Libby Higgins]

That's Joey.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's Joey.

[Libby Higgins]

I made a cardboard. I took a picture and put it on cardboard so his head would fit in that shirt so I could kiss it and stuff.

[Ryan Sickler]

You would kiss that? Oh, tell me about it. That was. I would just be at night, like. You take it to bed with you. Did you really?

[Libby Higgins]

That was the closest I ever got to Joe.

[Ryan Sickler]

So you had more action from the cardboard than the real guys. Than the ghost, too.

[Libby Higgins]

He didn't. He didn't kiss back, though. But it was pretty much after this bedroom.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like, is the corner of your room.

[Libby Higgins]

That's my Corner of my room. But that whole room looked like all those pictures. No. Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

You had the. All four walls decorated like that.

[Libby Higgins]

Four. I was extreme. I am an extreme person. Obsessive. After this, pretty much. I was shamed out of liking them.

[Ryan Sickler]

By who?

[Libby Higgins]

One of my friends at high school. He's like, you know that's not cool, right?

[Ryan Sickler]

A girl or a guy?

[Libby Higgins]

A guy.

[Ryan Sickler]

Oh, really? And it wasn't cool for a guy, but I felt like, here's all the way. I always felt like unless a girl said something wasn't cool. Girls. I didn't pay attention.

[Libby Higgins]

Really?

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah. Because why would I. Because I'm like, it's girl thing. Who do. Why do we give a.

[Libby Higgins]

Well, I wish I could have went for Barbies.

[Ryan Sickler]

Like I'm gonna. If you still play with Barbie.

[Libby Higgins]

I wish I could have went back and said that. Like, hey, I like them. They're cool.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah.

[Libby Higgins]

But I didn't and I'll regret that.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you really turn on them or did you like.

[Libby Higgins]

I threw it all.

[Ryan Sickler]

You did.

[Libby Higgins]

Threw it all away.

[Ryan Sickler]

You tore your posters and everything down.

[Libby Higgins]

I just threw it all.

[Ryan Sickler]

Do you remember that day, taking your. Tearing it all down?

[Libby Higgins]

I don't, but what I do remember is putting them in a box. And then it just disappeared. I don't know where any of that stuff went. I wish I had it because I'm re buying all of it. Now, about the sheets, the curtains.

[Ryan Sickler]

Sheets.

[Libby Higgins]

The new Kiss on the Block sheets. Paying, paying.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you have those? Tell me about. You had like, New Kids on the Block bed sheets.

[Libby Higgins]

I didn't at this time because I was a little old for him. That was for like, the younger girls. But I had, you know, all the buttons. They had those huge buttons.

[Ryan Sickler]

Big buttons were big, but. Right. I forgot about.

[Libby Higgins]

Been buying those. Bought the sheets, bought all the toys. Oh, God, look at them.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that what you have now?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah, yeah. They don't have them in queen size. They only have them in twin. So I can't actually put them on my bed.

[Ryan Sickler]

You got to get two twin beds.

[Libby Higgins]

They're for children. They're for children. Wow, that is really cool.

[Ryan Sickler]

Did you have any other crushes growing up on, like, boy bands and things like that?

[Libby Higgins]

I did. I obsessed over people. The first obsession I had was on the band the Monkeys.

[Ryan Sickler]

Of course. Yeah. Then who did you like, though? Was there a particular one? Davey. Okay.

[Libby Higgins]

Of course. I like Davies English.

[Ryan Sickler]

And they had a show on when we were kids. It would come on. Remember?

[Libby Higgins]

It was. It came on, but it was from the 60s.

[Ryan Sickler]

Yeah, I mean, it would run while we were kids. Yes, yes.

[Libby Higgins]

Monkeys. Then I liked Michael J. Fox for a number of years. Then it was Nucas on the block. And it was.

[Ryan Sickler]

It was Don Johnson. What was that look?

[Libby Higgins]

Don Johnson. I don't know what that was about. I was just being cool. I got that outfit at Fashion Gal.

[Ryan Sickler]

Where is that?

[Libby Higgins]

It was in St. Louis. Fashion Gal. There it is. That's her logo. Wow, what a logo. What font is that? It just was very cheap, fast clothing. But you could pick up a few items, you know, for cheap.

[Ryan Sickler]

My mom was a big lady, so my mom would take us to two stores. You ready? We'll start nice on the first one. It's called Fashion Bug inside of Carol Town Mall as a fashion player, this Fashion Bug.

[Libby Higgins]

So that was very much like Fashion Gal.

[Ryan Sickler]

That's. Yes, that's equivalent to your Fashion Gal. However, my mom would also take us to a store in security mall called sixteen plus.

[Libby Higgins]

And they were telling me exactly what they were selling.

[Ryan Sickler]

They weren't hiding the size at all. We would go to 16 Flair to Security Square Mall. Give me a 16 plus. I want to say it was a blue logo.

[Libby Higgins]

My sister worked at a place called Sizes Unlimited.

[Ryan Sickler]

Unlimited. This place was called sixteen plus. And I mean, we grew up around big ladies. You know what I'm saying? We'd be in the store like, God.

[Libby Higgins]

Man, damn, that's a big woman.

[Ryan Sickler]

Big lady, 16 plus.

[Libby Higgins]

And I bet if you looked at them now, they wouldn't even look that big. No, because people, I thought they were fat in the 80s. I'm like, damn, they were snatched. That was pre Lane Bryant. Now they got, of course got.

[Ryan Sickler]

Look at that one right there. Go back for a second. Look at the search bar. Big a figure.

[Libby Higgins]

Is that a lady?

[Ryan Sickler]

What is that?

[Libby Higgins]

Bigger figure.

[Ryan Sickler]

Is that a real thing?

[Libby Higgins]

I want to go there. They got a lot of fashion. Bigger figure.

[Ryan Sickler]

There it is.

[Libby Higgins]

Unlimited.

[Ryan Sickler]

Unlimited. There you go.

[Libby Higgins]

I'm going there.

[Ryan Sickler]

Thank you. Thank you for coming on and thank you so much.

[Libby Higgins]

This is so fun.

[Ryan Sickler]

You're great. It's been great to meet you and hang out with you for same. Will you please promote everything one more time?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah. Libby Higgins. L I B B I E Higgins. You can probably figure that out. If you can't, don't look me up and Patreon Tick Tock Instagram. Please follow me for whatever it takes. Just do it.

[Ryan Sickler]

That it? You good?

[Libby Higgins]

Yeah.

[Ryan Sickler]

All right.

[Libby Higgins]

I got emotional. I just really wanted people to follow me.

[Ryan Sickler]

Please follow her. Please follow her. As always, Ryan Sickler on all your social media Come see me on tour. Get your tickets@ryan sick.com we'll talk to y'all next week.

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