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2026 Red Carpet Recap With Zanna Roberts Rassi: The Best Dressed, Behind-the-Scenes Details, and Standout Beauty Moments
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I'm your host Hilary Kerr and today
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I'm sitting down with style correspondent Zanna Roberts Rossi.
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Zanna covers the award season red carpets
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for outlets like E, the Today show and Elle.
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And I'm willing to say that she knows more about red carpets than pretty much anyone. She's joining us today to break down all of the looks that we saw this award season, from the Grammys to the actor awards to the Oscars and everything in between. We're talking about some of our favorite moments from the season and the surprising behind the scene details Zanna learned from being in person on the carpet.
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It's all coming up on who, what, where.
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Sana, thank you so much. I am so excited to have you here today to talk about all things red carpet. I am freaking out because I was just watching you last night on E. This is so amazing and fun and I loved the fact that you kept getting text messages from Stylus like in the middle of the show. That was hysterical and wonderful. You know, you bring so much gravitas and insight and reporting to the red carpet. I just loved it so much. So thank you for joining us.
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Thank you so much. That means so much coming from you because I know you're such a stat and information and fashion nerd nerd like
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me within the details. So to hear that is like a big seal of approval.
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Thank you.
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I just love it. I was like, this is. You were everything. So I want to talk about some of the looks from last night. What were some of the standout looks for you?
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So many standout looks for Me. Okay, let's think about it. And before I even jump into this, let's just say I was on the e. Carpet, then I got on a red eye, and then I went straight to the Today show and then did something else. And I've just been filming something else, so excuse me if I'm slurring at all.
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Not been up for 24 hours straight dealing with all things Oscars. She's punchy, y'.
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All.
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She's punchy. She's forgotten everything, but it's great.
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No. So some of my favorites, without doubt, last night. Let's start with Renate. Absolutely. What a smoke show. Literally, my pulse raised when I saw this amazing Louis Vuitton red dress. Carla Welch had actually told me that morning. She was like, zanna, it's the simplest thing you're ever gonna see. It's like, it's a fashion girl's dress, and when you saw it just wrap around her body, this one piece of red fabric, I'm inspired. I literally came out and put my red sweater on today, as you see here, because of it. And it wasn't a classic Oscars look, but for me, it was by far one of the best dressed.
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But, like, what's a classic Oscars look? A mermaid dress and a big old necklace.
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Like, we've seen it.
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We've seen it. This felt modern and fresh and also, like, a continuation of what Carla has been doing with her all season with, like, the minimalism meets quirky sheerness or, like, some sort of body on display in a really thoughtful way.
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Exactly. There's nothing ever predictable, and there's all those wonderful architectural shapes and all the Louis Vuitton, like, futurism of it as well. And then peel back that. It's so, so good. Somebody else speaking of Louis Vuitton are. Emma Stone. Oh, my goodness. That's the dress I want to be buried in, I think. Or if I ever got married again. Not that I'm planning on it, Dear husband would be the one. It shimmered in just the right way. It looks so casual and effortless. But there was literally, like, I don't know, 600 hours of work went into that sleeve.
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But those are the sorts of details that I love, and I appreciate you bringing that to the forefront.
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There's so much amazing work. There's so much craftsmanship. There's all these people running around grafting so hard behind the scenes. That stuff has to come to the forefront. And it's something I've always done and always championed, and I'm Just so glad that everybody's really interested. You've always done it too, and I think there's such a. There's such a mad interest in it now, and it's great to be able to share that. And there's more fashion nerds out there like us.
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Can we talk about one of my favorites as well?
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Yes, please. I should be asking you this question. Who was it? Tell me.
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Rose Byrne in Dior. I loved. I mean, speaking of craftsmanship, like, the level of embroidery and embellishment on that dress. It fit so beautifully. And then her jewelry just so taffen that it felt like such a fashion girl choice to go with such an interesting brand. And that smoky almost. What do they call it? A desert diamond?
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The desert diamonds. This yellowy. I was actually talking about this on today's show as well. It was like a yellow brown desert diamond. And the way that it was on the gold metal and it was set off to one side, asymmetrical. It was like you said, it was so unusual because you expect something, you know, like a big diamond choker, which is great. But this is so unique and just. It was beautiful. And then she had a ring as well. Did you see the blue ring she had on?
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Yes, yes.
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It was a ceramic blue ring. And I think that cost, like, I don't know, like 1.8 million or something for just the ring.
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I did not see the price tag. That's crazy.
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Yeah. I mean, there was. I really like how they were switching the diamonds up a little bit. It wasn't as expected as you usually, you know, we usually get.
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Yes. Although I also like a classic. Like, I really loved Elle Fanning's vintage Cartier wisteria inspired thick band around her neck. That was pretty gorgeous as well. And then the other one that I got excited about was Teyana Taylor, who I feel like has had the most fun for this award season. Like, she can wear anything. And to see that level of, like, texture and detail and she just looked like she was having fun. She wears the dress. The dress doesn't wear her.
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That's my take on it, 100%. And last night she, you know, she has had this incredible run and we've seen her do. Absolutely. She has been fashion's overachiever. She was what Colman Domingo was to us last season. Yes, yes.
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Oh, my gosh, that is correct.
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And she's just gone at it. Won every fashion battle, one fashion battle after another. And last night was the perfect culmination of all of the events. It was kind of tame. For Teyana, I suppose. But it was Tiana doing Oscars, the Chanel number, the black and white beading, and then the feathers. Hillary, did you see how many feathers there were on that carpet?
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No, tell me.
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Trillion.
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In general? Yes.
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Oh, so many. No, I don't know the numbers on that feather. I'm sure they weren't real feathers, though. There's so many man made feathers.
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Nicole Kidman, Demi Moore.
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Demi Moore. Yep, yep.
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And then I feel like that continued on at the Vanity Fair after party as well.
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So at that point, I was definitely getting on the red eye and I was trying to still look at looks. I was like, I gotta get some
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sleep in this book. I really gotta get like maybe just an hour in here.
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So I landed.
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I was trying to look all the looks.
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It's funny because you used to get like the Vanity Fair moment or the after parties used to be much more casual or like, bit more party, and now they're like, actually more couture than some of the looks we saw on the actual Oscar red carpet.
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I really love the Vanity Fair party because one, you have more people and you have like a greater diversity of people from different areas of the entertainment industry. Two, I feel like the Oscars has a gravitas, so people tend to think of it in a more classic sensibility, whereas you see a little bit more risks for the Vanity Fair party. And I honestly sometimes like the second looks from the Oscars better at the Vanity Fair party. Like, I really love. I thought Elle Fanning looked beautiful in Givenchy for the red carpet, but I liked the black dress as well that she had for the after party where it's like, it just felt fresh and fun and still really phenomenal.
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100% agree. Yeah, I mean, it's just. There's just too many looks to go through. There isn't a dress or a diamond left in Hollywood, put it that way. Every show, at least not until the
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Met Gala, you always get some backstories on the looks. Are there any other fun facts from last night or particularly interesting backstory details that you can share?
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I have so many. Let me think now. Let's rattle the brain. Okay, one that's going quite fun and viral today. I've seen a lot about Gwyneth Paltrow's flashing. Was she wearing pants? Was she not wearing pants? I can tell you for a fact she was actually wearing a pants.
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Wait, you mean actual trousers or do you mean underwear?
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No, actual trousers. It's a sheer tulle trouser. And if you look super closely. It has this crystal embellishment on it. And Elizabeth Saltzman was telling me about it on the. On the ph earlier in the day. Because I interview all the stylists before we go out. I was like, amazing. And I was expecting a substantial shift on pants of some kind to come out.
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Yeah.
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I was like, oh, she must have not done it, because from the front, it was the strapless white gown. And then she turned to the side and there was just the sheer panel. I was like, they didn't do the pan. They didn't do it. And then I'm sat there this morning,
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zooming in, and then you're seeing all
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these things about Gwyneth Paltrow flashing. She actually had it on still. So there was going to never be a. There was never going to be a whoopsie.
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They had it covered. They had it covered. They froze.
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I mean. And that was Giorgio Armani prive, right?
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Giorgio Armani Prive. Yeah. That was a fun little nugget. What else did we get? Oh, so Hudson, did you see his Balenciaga? Yes, that was. That was a last minute switcheroo. Because I was expecting him to wear his Balenciaga with a sheer shirt that he wore to the Vanity Fair party. That was supposed to be for the Oscars.
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They changed it last minute. I was there ready to go with my stats on the other ones.
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Because he had this long. It was the sheer train. Mock neck. Exactly. Mock neck, sheer. And it was a long train. And Anastasia Walker and I were laughing, saying, oh, my God, let's please hope no one stands on that because we
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don't want to be choking Hudson on the Oscars, please.
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But they switched it last minute and he ended up wearing that for the Vanity Fair party.
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Why do you think they changed it? Because I will say he seemed very hot on the red carpet. I mean that literally, not just figuratively. I saw him with a fan at some point in time.
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It was the trend of the night. Everyone had a fan on the carpet last night. It was so hot. It was 85, maybe.
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Ooh, I know. So he was in the heavier look for the Oscars.
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He wore the heavier look for the Oscars. They wanted to do something maybe more traditional and just. I see why they did it. But we say heavy, but then also his stylist stars who say, he's been doing yoga in that suit all day. I was like, what? What? Apparently it was that comfortable. Okay, who knew? Balenciaga yoga.
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All right, Pierpaolo. It's black tie, but activewear. Okay. Okay.
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Someone says comfort to me. Oh, you can actually move in it or you can have a jacket that you can hug people in. I'm just done. Sign me up. I am in.
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The bar is so low. I'm like, ooh, it has a pocket again.
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Kristen Wiig last night with the Elie Saab. She had the big ball skirt on. I was like, it's a tank top and a skirt with pockets. It's my dream. And it's heavily couture beaded. Done. That's it. Yeah, we're very, very. The bar is low when it comes to comfort. That's terrible, isn't it?
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We need to raise that.
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Okay, so you are also the co founder of Milk Makeup. So we have to talk about beauty too. This was not as strong of a beauty night, in my opinion. Everyone looked beautiful, but it didn't seem to be. There wasn't as much of like a trend moment necessarily that I saw. But what were you seeing? Was there anything that you really loved last week, last night?
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Well, there was a couple of very Milk Makeup esque skin moments. You know, we're all about less is more. Less, but better. Your skin, but better. And that glassy skin. We saw quite a lot of Emma Stone. She just looked like she had the whole Hydro Grip family on. Basically. She had that beautiful glassy skin with that blurry lip.
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Nina park lip. Everyone is obsessed with the Nina park lip.
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How good is Nina park, by the way? Her curls look good. They look great. I also liked this moment of fun. Little accents on the eye that tied back to the dresses. We saw it on Wunmi. You see a little bit of jade or green in the interior of her eye. Here in her eye. And then also Chase. She had a wash of lilac over her eyelid to match her dress.
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I didn't.
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It was really pretty. Really, really pretty.
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And also so age appropriate because she's so young and fresh faced.
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So young, Fresh face, beautiful pop of the lip. I did mention that I loved Rose Byrne's lip. No eye, just a popping bright lip. And then also Renata had that lip color that matched perfectly her dress. It was also a Louis Vuitton color. I went down the rabbit hole.
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I was like, what color was she wearing? Because we all need that.
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It was Vitamin by Louis Vuitton.
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Okay.
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Which you can buy for probably $200. Lipstick. It's okay.
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Cheryl wearing straight out.
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And then you have Zoe Saldana, who? She was another kind of Milk Makeup girly with just that glassy skin.
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No.
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That everyone paired It Right. Right back.
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Yeah, you're right. It was a lot of skin. A lot of gorgeous skin. And, you know, that probably was the plan because it was so hot, and makeup artists and hairstylists have to think about the weather conditions that they are working with and probably were like, everything's gonna slide off. So, like, let's just make it really simple and clean.
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Yeah. Or just use hydro grip. There you go. There's my portfolio.
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There you go. She's sat here with it right now. This is the concealer, which I've had to layer on today. Trust me, after that red eye.
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I mean, you're in the home stretch, though. Okay, so aside from the Oscars, I'd love to talk about sort of the macro look at awards season for the folks who are a little bit less tapped into the red carpet world than you are, which means nearly everyone. Can you explain a little bit about the differences between the carpets? Like, what makes a look perfect for the Grammys? How are the Oscars different from the Golden Globes? And what's going on with the rebrand of the SAG Awards is now the Actor Awards. How do you think people strategize in different ways for these different carpets?
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It's such a good question. I think we have to put it into layman's terms, right? So all of our social calendars, the Grammys would be more of, say, your best friend's birthday. So it's a moment where you can have some fun, dip into some trends, do something you usually wouldn't. Just have a really good time with fashion. Not so serious, not so serious, playful. Then you have the Oscars, which is more like, this is your wedding day. It's the height of formality. It's the one timeless look that you want to look back in 50 years and be like, nailed it. I could do it today. The same dress. I could wear it today. You know, when I have the crazy makeup and you're like, oh, my God,
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is that even me?
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And then you have the Globes, which I would say is akin to the rehearsal dinner for your wedding. So it's the precursor. It's formal, but not formal enough. Maybe a little bit boozy and a bit more fun when it comes to fashion. You can kind of test out some trends that you're thinking about for the Oscars. That's what happens at the Globes. And then the SAGs, now the actor Awards, as you said, it's been rebranded, and I'm still calling it the Sags Same.
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Do you think the fashion was different now that it's been rebranded, or do you think it was sort of a business as usual?
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It was fun. I was on that carpet. I was doing the interviews there for Elle, who were actually partnering with it, and they, you know, they had the whole dress code, and it was really good fashion.
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I didn't know that there was a dress code until after the fact. Can we talk about the dress code?
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The dress code was Hollywood reimagined from the 20s and 30s. So I spoke to Nino Bat as well Garcia and rub off. It's actually happening anyway in the zeitgeist. That's what a lot of people were dipping into. We're seeing it across the board, and it really. It translated.
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And I think if people didn't know there was a dress code or not, they were still actually checking the right box.
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You know, you saw somebody like Chase Infinity in that beautiful Louis Vuitton dress with that amazing. You know, she had the beaded cap on her head. It was so gorgeous. And then, I mean, there's just so many great looks from there. I find it interesting how the carpet has now become like, so much part of the performance. The Golden Globes, we had the steps. It turned into a mini Met gala. You know, actor award has a theme. The carpet is the moment. Right. We don't. We care about the show. Absolutely. But equally, if not more so, sometimes for some of us, that's the moment.
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And also when it goes a little awry, like the Vanity Fair party, you really notice.
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You really notice. But no, I think just awards generally, you know, I think there's so many more eyeballs on it. There's so many more people, there's so many more brands involved. And it's a great moment to, yes. Market, but it's also, you know, this incredible marketing moment for your movie, for your fashion, for whatever you're doing. It's just such a wonderful platform and people are fascinated with it. So I'm here for it.
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So as you look back on this awards season, what are some of the biggest trends that you notice? Whether it's silhouettes or colors or accessories or anything really kind of been thrown
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off a little bit by last night. Now, I'm sorry, I had a few and then they went a little bit awry last night. I'd say overall, silhouettes. Sculptural. There's a lot more sculptural. We're seeing a lot more architectural. You know, red carpets have been leaning into these more powerful shapes and these dramatic silhouettes rather than the safe gowns you mentioned before. Less of the mermaid, more of these cool shapes. You know, Louis Vuitton have led the Charge with that with these futuristic shapes. You see Chase, you see Teyana Taylor. Every outing, you have a triangle, a dome, a peplum. It's been incredible, texture wise, based on last night as well. Feathers.
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I know. So much texture. It feels like all of the craftsmanship that we have been seeing at Dior and Chanel and really starting to come out in such a beautiful and thoughtful way.
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It's coming out in a way that feels very handmade in the best possible way. Right. I think. And it's this backlash against the AI of it all, and it's the beauty artisans. Yeah, 100%. And you saw that in so many of the finishes on the dresses that were done then undone. Michelle Williams is Prada at the Actor Awards. You know, Kate Young said that it was supposed to look a little unfinished. It was like almost. The dress was still in process being created. And you really see that. And there's such a beauty to it because no machine can ever do that. You see the hand work.
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Yeah.
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Color wise. Oh, gosh. Let's see the greens. Who knew that green was going to be good? I don't think any of us predicted that. You know, we had this, the clover green on Roseburn at the Globes. That was a fun one. She said she had six different swatches of green to choose from, and they ended up choosing that one. When the dress is the color, you gotta get the color right, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Tessa Thompson in the Chartreuse. That was an amazing moment.
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That was Balenciaga, right?
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That was Balenciaga. Fun story around that. Carla told me. Carla Welch.
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Thank you, Carla.
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She's like, we know. We weren't sure on the color, and we kept on humming and ahhing about it. And Pierre was like, it's incredible. You know, we're going to go with it. And Carla was driving along and was thinking about it, and a car drove
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past that was exactly the same color as that dress.
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Which, by the way, if you've seen this dress, it's not a very common color.
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And she's like, that was the.
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That was a sign.
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There was a signal. So she literally text Tessa and was like, it's a sign we're done. That's it.
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But, yeah, there's so many greens. And then even last night, Gucci feathers, Demi in the green, and Kate Hudson
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in Giorgio Armani in her jade with the peplum and the embellishment, too. I was like, oh, we're still seeing that. There is still that green through line.
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It's interesting because it's not the easiest color to wear, but I suppose there's a green for everybody.
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There's an everything for everyone.
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There's an everything for everyone. That's so true.
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I was talking about this about the red carpet with Jamie Mizrahi and Lauren Sherman earlier, and I was like, oh, I love that there was so much color. And they said, but there was no color on. I was like, what are you talking about? There was lots of color on the red carpet. There was lots of black and white also. But I think maybe I'm just thrilled. I feel like we had a spate a few years ago of a lot of beige on the red carpet and a lot of flowers, flesh tones, which was not my favorite. So I am personally, like, as a. As a someone who loves color, I am personally, I will take anything over a neutral.
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These primary brights, it's almost like Lego colors were popping, like, even last night, Barbie and she had Zac Posen for Gap Studio. Beautiful. It was bright, popping cobalt blue. It cheers you up. It's literally like a shot. Even if we're sat, you know, we sitting on the panel, we're sometimes not seeing these looks before they come up on the screen in front of us. We've got to, like, comment quick, and you see a color, you're just like, oh, everyone's posture changes.
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Something's happening.
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Yeah, it's just very easy to understand, you know?
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So let's talk about the men. Are there any trends or details that you saw and really loved this season?
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Brooches, the bros in brooches.
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I have just the trend that won't stop. I said, I was like, jamie, you started all of this with jaw and his Tiffany brooch. And it feels like it's a continuing crescendo of brooches.
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Who didn't have a brooch on? It was almost like you weren't dressed properly unless you had a brooch on.
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And my favorite iteration of it was actually Pedro Pascal, who had the. I don't know if you saw. It was like an enormous, almost flower Chanel. Beautiful. Apparently, there were feathers involved with that, too. And I love. Also done by Jamie Mizrahi. I was laughing because I said, oh, is this the new thing? Is this now going to be flower? And she said, yes, we're moving towards flowers. Also. I feel like we're seeing more color in our tuxedos now. I mean, yes, there's still the basic black, but we're seeing burgundy and chocolate brown and navy and dark green. And I just like all of the richness of that also makes me quite happy.
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C
Yeah, you're right. Even last night we saw Chase Stokes had the Dunhill, the maroon on. I spoke to Warren, Alfie Baker as well. He does so many of the beautiful guys from, you know, Andrew Garfield, he had some of the guys from last night and he was saying he looks at and he's just as long as their eyes pop, then that's how I know the right suit. And he. They really go by the color wheel as well like this. The seasons. Hilaria Urbanati as well is big on that. She takes her boys and shows that you're an autumn, you're a spring, and then dresses them accordingly. Hilaria actually had a great term color washing. So for head to toe in a colors, I mean, you saw it last night, if you can call it a color on Timmy White. On the white. But I do like that term color washing. Head to toe monochromatic.
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B
As you know, in the fashion industry, there have been so many changes with so many designers moving houses. But I'm wondering if there was a designer or a brand or a house that made the biggest impact, in your opinion, for this red carpet season. And who do you think is just warming up?
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C
Zac Posen is just warming up. I think the fact that he hit this red carpet season so hard with some of the youngest stars in Hollywood, really good casting. Really good casting. I mean, this is not going anywhere that's going to keep on going. Mathieu Blaisey, of course, Chanel was so well represented and so fun to see in this new iteration. I mean, the colors, we've never seen that kind of color. We've never seen this clover green that Rose wore, the orange that Teyana wore. It's really exciting to see. And people run towards the house to dress for a red carpet event. And Louis Vuitton, I mean, Nicolas, you can't go wrong. Like just the futurism, the architecture, these incredible silhouettes and they're just unique. We don't see enough of them on carpets. And I'm just really excited to see more of it in the future.
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B
Strong agree. What do you think about stylists, like, whose work really stood out for you this year? I know that you have them all on speed dial and everyone has a different year when their clients are really like engaged and working. But who did it for you this year, awards season?
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C
I've mentioned a few of them. I think. Well, you were with one of them earlier. Jamie Mizrahi smashed it. Carla Welsh always kills it. She's done Such an incredible job with Renata. I'd say specifically just knocked it out of the park. I would say Petra Flannery, Emma Stone, Zoe Saldana last night, just absolutely gorgeous Kate Young, gorgeous Rose Byrne. I think she's taken her to a whole new level of style. And I would say Teyana Taylor is probably my favorite stylist of the season because we all know she's self styled, she does her own creative direction, she works directly with the houses and the designers themselves. May it be, you know, Daniel Roseberry at Schiaparelli or Mathieu at Chanel. And she has done an incredible job. Oh, I say she works on her own, actually. She does have her daughter Tuni helping
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D
her out and ruining. Still, still on the Gap.
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C
No. And Waymond and Micah have done an incredible job too. And there's so many. I mean, these, they're just all so talented as well. And they're all got such great backstories, which obviously fills you and I with glee when we're reporting on it. Very much so. And they all work their butts off.
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B
I know it's a lot of planning, a lot of angling, a lot of process, a lot of favors, a lot of convincing like it is even with an established star. Yeah, so much strategy. So when you look back on this awards season, are there some that you feel like, is there anything that went particularly viral or really had a moment that you think was worthy of that moment or that it should have been a big moment?
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C
I'm forever going to remember this awards season fondly thinking about Teyana's bottom.
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B
The Schiaparelli.
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D
The Schiaparelli, the Diamante.
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C
It's ingrained in my brain and it
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D
lives there rent free and it will do forevermore.
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C
And it went viral for all the right reasons. It was done in the classiest of ways. I saw it in real life. She gave me a spin. It was. It was so perfect, just to perfect
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B
look, perfect person, perfect moment.
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D
Exactly.
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C
Heidi Klum was interesting actually at the Grammys. It was by a design, a German designer, I believe it was almost a fetish gear. And I took a picture of her, knowing her, and put a video and that. I put a video online. I never seen so much pickup on a look. It was insane because she was. It was literally rubber. She was kind of like tottering along.
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D
It was kind of great. I loved it. I was like, yeah, you deserve it.
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C
You do it.
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B
Heidi, what about any favorite beauty moments from this season?
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C
Connor's story and his skin. And I say it because he was wearing Milk makeup with our whole Hydro Grip family.
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D
He was using our new concealer at
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C
the Globes, and he's been using our Hydro Grip family throughout the season. So his skin, of course, his glassy Hydro Grip skin. And then I would say, you know what? I was actually loving the vampy lips. Selena Gomez at the Globes, that's, like, stamped on dark lip. Also Dove. Cameron had that at the Actors Awards. Beautiful. I'm kind of into that. Very clean eye and a stamped on lip. How about you?
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B
If you work with Nina Park, I almost always will love your look. I just think that she does something. I don't think she's not done a video on it, as far as I know. Katie, Jane Hughes has, like, gotten close. I think a lot of people are trying to reverse engineer what she does to make the lip so beautiful and blurred and just gorgeous, but no one really knows. It's her secret, and it's so good.
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C
I'm gonna figure this out. Nina, we're on to you.
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B
We are trying. We've been asking. We're trying to get the secret. But I think that everything that she's done with Emma Stone has been really stunning. I mean, it's just so gorgeous and polished and effortless and everything.
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C
And very much that 90s, because Petra, you know, she was very much. We're channeling that 90s minimalism. And you see that in the makeup as well. The glassy skin, the blurred lip, the barely there eye, or if the eye is there, it's a little bit like a line, a little bit like someone slept in the KMOs after a night out in the 90s. I'll take that. Yeah. You know what's interesting, though, you think about the Oscars this time last year, so 2025, and Emma came out in that beautiful Louis Vuitton dress, and we were saying, oh, it's this 90s moment, and the hair was pixie and it was a little bit wet. And the strategy behind that from that moment until this moment has been that, you know, and if you think about looking at Petra's mood board and Emma's, it's so tight. And when you look back, you see the strategy, but when people are actually in it, you don't realize. Right. But it's so clever. So clever. And it's just.
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B
I love it. It's like Easter egg story.
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C
Yeah.
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D
Yeah.
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B
I have to say that I also love your video show, the Morning after, which you host with Jenna Lyons and June Ambrose, two other of my favorite women. Absolute icons. The Three of you, you all discussed red carpet looks, and it's so fun. You did a segment on that show called Bling from bed where you talked about accessories. And so I have to ask if you have any favorite accessories or jewelry from this awards season as a whole.
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C
Jewelry, I would say. Did you see Michelle Williams earrings at the actor Awards?
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B
No.
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C
They were the natural diamonds. They were the Masika circular diamonds. They were absolutely beautiful. I click to buy if I could possibly afford those natural diamonds. I would also say we mentioned it earlier. Rose Burns necklace last night was one of my favorite. I said it on the Today show as well today. The taffin yellow desert diamond. I mean, I have no idea how much that beauty was worth, but it's like 23 carats worth of diamonds, so we'll take it. Colman Domingo's brooches. But when they were the boucheron all
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B
over his jacket, that was the biggest boucheron moment. Yeah.
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C
And then one other ring from. And I can say this because I've just done the morning after with Jenna in the bed behind me. You can just see they've just left. And Jenna's favorite, which I'm now going to steal from her, was Misty Copeland's ring. Did you see this last night? Misty Copeland's. It was Jarrah jewelry, and it was like 1.8 million just for the ring. I've never seen Jenna so effusive about a piece of jewelry before in my life.
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D
It was beautiful. It was so pretty.
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C
Oh, there's so many. So many good diamonds out there.
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B
So many good diamonds out there.
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C
Did you have a favorite?
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B
Definitely Rose's necklace. But then also the vintage Cartier that Elle wore, the wisteria diamonds last night. Like, I'm a total sucker for a giant diamond necklace, and I love vintage. So you put those two things together, and it's Cartier and it's Wisteria, which is in season right now. And so beautiful. Like, I. I mean, signed seal delivered.
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C
I'm just gaga. It's two pieces as well, wasn't it? Yeah, it's two pieces joined together. Oh, goodness. Yeah. That was a moment. Oh, and then we saw Kate Hudson in the $35 million. I don't think I've seen that number.
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B
No.
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C
On a red carpet before, Right?
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B
No. I mean, I couldn't imagine the security.
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C
It was insane. Well, she brought her mama's security.
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D
Yeah. That healthy home was her day. I love that.
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B
So one of my favorite things about your red carpet reporting is that you get the inside story scoop on what people might not know about a dress just from looking at it. So you have fascinating stories about the number of beads or I think I learned from you about that. Renata's silver look at the Golden Globes was two pieces which I had no idea. It's fascinating. You've talked to Kristen Bell about butt pads. You've talked about, like, there's so many things that you have discovered about hip foam and this and this. So what are some of your favorite bits of insight that you've learned on the red carpet this season that the average viewer would not know about a gown just from looking at it?
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C
I live for those details too. The stuff, the details that you don't see just by looking at it. For sure. Thanks for noticing. So Rose Byrne, we just talked about her, like the fact that that dress, that green, took six different swatches. Gwyneth Paltrow, the pants story last night. Oh, also that look for last night for Gwyneth Paltrow. So she wore the Giorgio Armani last night. That look was actually on the rack for the Golden Globes she was supposed to wear at the kickoff of the season. But it ended up being so good, they're like, we're gonna keep it until the last look of the season. Again, strategy. It was all laid out from the beginning. You know, they know what they're doing. Speaking of strategy, Jessie Buckley, Danielle Goldberg said that she'd started the season in black. Right. They wanted to pay. It was reverence for the character, you know, the film that she was playing a part in. You know, there was. There was a real severity of that conversation and that topic. But she knew at the end of it, they were going to end with this bright pop. And so they had this build up throughout the whole season, which is kind of beautiful. That dress was actually gorgeous last night. See, I'm jumping back onto Beth's dress now. Hilary. Sorry, I can't help myself. But that the pink and the red, the Chanel, I mean, absolutely striking. Based on the Grace kelly look from 70 years ago.
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B
Still classic.
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C
Still classic.
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B
Stunning silhouette that can't be beat.
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C
Jean Smart does not have pierced ears. So she wears millions of dollars worth of jewelry and has a security guard follow closely behind because they're all clippings.
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B
Oh, that makes me nervous to hear.
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D
I know.
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C
Oh, my gosh, so many fun facts. Like Odessa A. Zion. She is self styled. She does her own hair, her own makeup. And the reason being she just hates people up in her business. She doesn't like people fussing over her and by the way, she's really good at doing it all herself, too.
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B
Might as well carry on. Let's carry on.
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C
When they find the time, though, that's
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B
a lot of work because you're in person and you see all of these looks up close. Are there any that look even more amazing in person than they do on the smaller screen?
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C
Maybe someone like an Emma Stone. You know, the lavender dress, the lavender Louis Vuitton. And with the cardigan, I think people. Oh, it's a slip dress with a cropped cardi. No, no, no, no, no. It's a simple little shrug. Was filled with so much intricate beadwork. It was so striking in person. Like, things like that I don't think sometimes register on camera. And somebody just like, you know, a Robin Wright in the black Ralph Lauren at the Globes. Gorgeous. Like, in person, you just like. It's just knockout. I'm not too sure if it would have read knockout in a picture, but in reality, like, that is a class act.
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B
I love that. Okay, so with that in mind, I'm going to let you go. But first, a little quick lightning round. I know we've talked about a lot of great stylists, but who is your favorite stylist from this season?
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C
Teyana Taylor.
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B
Okay, great. Favorite glam team.
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C
Mara Rosuc and Nina Park.
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B
Yes. For Emma Stone, that is like the dream team. Favorite look from the entire season.
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C
Renate, at the Golden Globes, that Louis Vuitton dress. So we had 800,000 bugle beads. There's 2,900 fringe work in that. You'll appreciate these numbers. 2,800 hours of work. I think there's like 400 hours to complete the manufacturing. I mean, it was a piece of art. And when you watched it walk by, you, it was kind of very still, but it was moving at the same time. And Nicola is so good at doing that. That was something that's really stuck in my mind for sure.
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B
And such an incredible color, too, that, like, gunmetal almost.
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C
It was so beautiful. It's not the easiest thing to wear either.
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B
Right.
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C
Because it's hard to pull something like that off. But she just and ought to stand out, I should say, in a color that's not one of the popping primaries that we mentioned earlier.
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B
Okay, what's your favorite red carpet to work
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C
this year? I'm gonna say the Actor Awards. It was really fun, and everyone was there for a party. Okay, great. Because people come as a cast as well, so they don't just arrive, you know, they come with all their ensemble, they're all having a good time.
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B
A little looser.
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D
A little looser.
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C
Yeah. And that means the interviews that I get are also a little looser and a little bit more fun.
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B
That's good. Also, they drink later, so that's helpful, too.
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D
Always.
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C
Okay.
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B
And then last but not least, who is your favorite celebrity to interview on the red carpet?
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C
Oh, goodness. This season, it has to have been Teyana Taylor. She's just done the most. Or Odessa. Now I'm saying that. So Teyana is. She just. Just does the most. Like, she'll bring it. She's such humility, such grace. She will spend the time talking to you. She looks you in the eye and you can see she genuinely. She's in her most authentic self. And she just. She's genuinely, like, talking to you, having a conversation. You know, it's not like the can dancers, which is great. And then Odessa, she's just quirky and cool as well. I asked Odessa if she'd let Tiana Taylor style her. She's like, maybe.
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B
Maybe that'd be a hard yes for anyone.
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C
She's like. She's probably the only person I would let style me, but, yeah, it be a collaboration.
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D
I love you, girl. I love you.
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B
Amazing. Well, Santa, thank you so much. This was so incredible. I'm going to let you go, but I appreciate your time as always. It's always a pleasure talking to you. You are the best, best, best, best.
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C
You are. Thank you. So.
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B
A huge thank you to Style correspondent Sana Roberts Rossi.
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A
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