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talking with Chris Bledsoe, a North Carolina businessman who in 2007 was facing the end of everything. His company had collapsed, he was dying from Crohn's disease, and he went down to the Cape Fear river with his teenage son and three of his workers to fish. What happened next changed his life, and honestly, it's one of the most unusual cases in modern UFO history. Chris and all five witnesses experienced multiple orbs creatures with glowing red eyes and a massive Tic Tac shaped craft, and four hours of missing time. Chris came home healed from his Crohn's disease, four hours of missing time, and he came back healed. Meanwhile, I lose four hours on TikTok and come back with carpal Finn. And here's where it gets interesting. Since 2007, senior officials from the CIA, NASA, and even the Vatican have been quietly investigating him. Former CIA officer Jim Semiven wrote the foreword to his book. A NASA engineer spent years trying to debunk him and couldn't. Oh, NASA tried to debunk him, huh? That's their tell, human. When NASA tries to debunk you, you're over the target. I agree. We're going to talk about the encounter, the healing, the beings, and the entity. Chris calls the Lady, a divine feminine presence that's been appearing to him since 2012. At least she's bringing him healing. Whenever a feminine shows up at my door, she's usually bringing legal documents. Okay, let's get back to work. This one goes places you don't expect. I really enjoy the conversation.
AJ (Interviewer)
Let's go down to the basement. Chris, thanks for coming today.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Thank you for having me, A.J.
AJ (Interviewer)
i'm so excited.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's mine. Me too. It's my honor. Been a big fan for a long time.
AJ (Interviewer)
Oh, don't say that. You don't have to say that.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I have been.
AJ (Interviewer)
So if you know my show and I'm just going to recap this for the audience at the end of the Y files, I do a segment debunking and analysis. I don't do that here. This is about telling the story and just kind of exploring your experiences. So if you feel any pushback. It's not. This isn't a gotcha show. We're going to talk about your story. I guess it all starts at the river. What brought you to the river?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It actually started before the river. Let's back up to about 2001 when the world Trade center disaster happened. At that time I had been in business nearly 20 years and building upwards of 100, 120 or 30 houses every year, was one of the biggest builders in our county and one in the state. Private company. And when that disaster happened, being that my business is based in a military town, Fort Bragg, the housing sales just stopped. Suddenly nobody's buying. And so here I am with $18 million invested in property and the interest rates had gone up to like 8% and on borrowed money it was costing me $100,000 a month. We fast forward and I was dealing with Crohn's and that made it worse. It got worse and worse and worse. And by the time 2004 come along, I was in the hospital having, and I write about this in my book, what happened there had a near death experience from a doctor poisoning me. I'd lost everything. Took me five years to go through all the savings I had and liquidating all I could, but I paid the banks off and sold the property. But I was left with nothing. So the near death happened in 04 and early 05. I was still recovering. By summer of 06, I was just getting to where I could go back to work. I'm still sick with Crohn's. Right. And I just had this poisoning in the hospital by a doctor.
AJ (Interviewer)
And I'd love to get into that at some point, maybe later today. Because you've had two NDEs.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, one from a gunshot when I was 10 and one from over medication. Not checking my vital, my liver and my blood work. Right. It just. Dr. Just didn't. He Failed to do it. And it caused me to go into toxic shock. Metal poisoning they call it. And so here I am. Now all this happened. Sick, I'm recovering, I'm at the end of my rope. I had a million dollar home, four kids, living on a golf course for all these years. And now I'm in a mobile home with getting free lunch money from school. How, how debilitating that was and demeaning. But that led me to the river.
AJ (Interviewer)
What, what led you to the river? What was that decision?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well it wasn't my decision, but it was. I started back to work, just the first job my dad convinced me to go out and look after a big house that he was contracted to build on the coast, two hours away. So I took a crew of men and had them working there and we worked four months in 06 from October to December. And when December comes along, it was right before Christmas. I didn't need to go back. We were down to the last 10% of what they owed us. Doing a punch list. So on the, on the 1st day or 2nd of January, I sent the crew back, told them to do their work and bring me a check back and that's exactly what they did. On January 8th of that day they called me. Hey boss, we got your job done. We'd like to celebrate. We don't have to drive out of town anymore. It'd been four months they've been going in and two hours away. And so I was at home, my wife was at home, she was off with the rest of the kids. But it was Chris Jr. And I there. And so we agreed to go fishing in the middle of the day in January. And it was about 2:30 when we got to the river and of course I was very, I was having a hard time mentally, you know, depressed and struggling about. And so I didn't fish. I had my son, 17 then these three grown men, they were crew leaders, they were doing roofing and framing and that people that worked with our family for my dad for years and years. And so I thought it'd be nice to get Chris Jr. Down out of the house. And so we get to the river 2:30 and I left walking. I told him once I got him set up and I left walking about 3:30 or 4.
AJ (Interviewer)
Why did you let off?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I was wanting to get away and think, you know, I wasn't into fishing. I just wanted to make sure they were in there. They were. I'm a manager, right. So I managed cruisermen and I felt like they were, they were Sitting on the bank with a little stick with forks and poles and so they were all set up. They're good? Yeah, they're good. I'm going to go find. I'm going to go talk to whoever's up there.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay. So you had the intention.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yes.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yes. So I left walking and I went. Imagine you go to the dead end of a cul de sac, drive down in the woods, and it dead ends into a round grassy area about an acre. Well, I walk on in the cul de sac to the back of it, looking for deer, really, not looking for anything, but away time right for me. So I'm sitting beside a big tree, and it starts getting dark in the woods a lot earlier than out in the open. I think it was 4:45. I come walking out of the woods and walked up to where they were fishing. And I said, you guys want to go home or you want to fish some more? They're like, we just got here, we want to do some more. I said, well, it's going to get cold tonight. Better get a fire going. So we. Everybody stopped fishing. And all four of us, there were five of us. It was me, Chris Jr. And three guys. All five of us went around the cul de sac picking up dead wood, dead fallen. Had a huge pile of wood standing, sitting beside the bank and a little fire going. So about 10 after 5, that was the fire was going. And I said, you know, it's going to be dark soon. I'm going to walk up to the field the way we came in, not the end of the cul de sac. So I went, walked a quarter mile up to the field. And it's up, it's uphill, It's a hundred foot of elevation from the riverbank where we were fishing to this cornfield. It's flat field. It's a gate. And I'll share the photos with the gate where I was standing and just before I got to the top of that hill. And it's about 15 or 20 minutes after 5 now, so it's not dark yet. It probably didn't get fully dark until the sun was setting behind the trees. When I got up there, I walked up that hill. And when I got near the top, I could see the trees on the far side. I couldn't see the field because it's up here, but I could see what I thought was the tree top of the sun sticking up right above the hill up there. I looked down because it was muddy. And I'm walking, I'd look up and I'd walk another step, and when I got up to the top of that hill where I could see, I said, dang, that don't look like the sun. That's really weird. It was fire going around this thing. So I looked down, took two more steps, and when I did, I could see a water peripheral because, you know, I got trees on either side. And the higher up I get, the more my view spread. There was another one sitting right beside it and I didn't see to start with. So now I've got two huge balls of fire.
AJ (Interviewer)
How far away are they?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They were probably 300 yards. Okay, a good ways away, 200ft in the air, sitting right above the trees and just this flame going around them and these little tips of fire was shooting off these things. So I immediately froze. I'm a commercial rated pilot. I knew what I was looking at wasn't anything from us at all. And I'd never really studied UFOs. I was dealing with poor children in sickness, right? And so it scared me. And I squatted down, actually got down on my stomach and I raised my head up and look above the hill because I've still got some more hill in front of me. And I'd look at it and I was just mesmerized. But I started getting worried. Oh, my son's down the hill. I need to get back down there, tell them what I'm looking at.
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And the minute I decided to run, I had it in my thoughts. I'm going to run. So I turned my body. I'm looking back behind me at it, you know, And I stood up to run. And the minute I stood up to run, right up here above me, another one appeared and shot down right in front of me. And at that moment, A.J. i knew that it knew what I was thinking. I knew that it saw me. And I knew I felt like I was captured. I was a lab rat. I didn't know what to think. It was just overwhelming knowing that this thing, I was on its radar. That's when it all changed, when it came at me.
AJ (Interviewer)
You're a hunter and now you're on the other side.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good explanation.
AJ (Interviewer)
And so you knew it was watching you. Was that like an animal instinct, or did you hear it, feel it?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I didn't know it was watching me. The two I was looking at. I thought I was, you know, hiding from this thing, but I was thinking, I gotta run. Oh, my God, what am I looking at? So I'm thinking, and the minute I go to run, this other one appeared. And I knew immediately that it knew that I was going to run. And it wanted and it knew, and it was connected to my thoughts, and I couldn't get away. It was the first thing I knew. It, I mean. But luckily they wiped my memory. So I had that moment of fear. And then all of a sudden, oh, my God. And then the lights went out.
Podcast Host/Commentator
Just.
AJ (Interviewer)
Just everything just went out, went out dark.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And so the next thing I realized, I'm walking up to the fire. I don't remember leaving at the top of the hill. I don't remember any of that. I just remember the last 50 or so feet going up to the fire. So I'm walking in the dark. They can't see me coming. And these three guys are standing at the campfire. They're not fishing no longer. They're standing there. And the fire's burnt down to very little fire I left. It was pretty good sized fire and it scared them bad when I snuck up on them.
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And I'm like, guys, you won't believe what I just saw. They're like, where have you been? I. So I was just up at the hill. I've been gone but 20 minutes. And they're like, no, you've been going all night and we've been looking for you all night. I said, well, where's Chris Jr? He wasn't there. And so they said, well, he went back Nicole de Sac, where you went earlier today, looking for you, while we took your truck and drove up and down the road. And one guy stayed at the fire the whole time. And so I panicked. My son's down in that forest and it goes for 50 miles to Wilmington. And there's very little to nothing in there. So I was just dreaming. He was lost, you know.
AJ (Interviewer)
Sure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So I panicked and took off running, ran to the back of the Cul de Sac where I'd gone in that day. And he knew where I'd gone because he'd watching me all the time. And I cried out to him, I started shouting for him and nothing could hear anything. So I started making my way into the forest. I got about 10ft in there and I heard him getting up off the ground. He was laying on his stomach underneath these real thick shrubs. And he come up and he was in tears. And he said, oh my God, Daddy, why did you leave me? And I said, I didn't leave you, son. I just walked up to the fish. I mean, gone 20 minutes. He said, no, you've been going all night. We've been looking. So I'm. I'm like, oh my God, what's happening?
AJ (Interviewer)
What happened?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
What's happened? But, you know, I wasn't scared anymore.
AJ (Interviewer)
You weren't?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Not at all. From that point forward, it was like amusement. My son is freaked out. He's in shock. These three guys are in shock or they're terrified, right. So I drag him back to the fire. They hadn't displayed that yet, but shortly they will. So I took Junior back to the fire where they were standing. And they're very quiet because I was telling them about this ball of light I saw at the top of the hill. And Chris Jr. Is talking about this creature that he had seen coming from a quarter mile away. The road at the end of the Cul de Sac is a quarter mile and then it makes a left, up, up, which is only an eighth of a mile, right. So he sees this light come out in the road, way down at the end, a red glowing light. He thought it was a camera. I mean, a flashlight. Because in the military, they used a lot of these red lenses on their flashlights, Right? So. And he has guns and infrared. That's what he thought it was. And there were two of them. They went across the road about three feet off the ground, and then they came back out on the road and they started towards him. And he's standing back, calling for me. The closer they got, the more afraid he got.
AJ (Interviewer)
Can he see what they are at this point?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Well, no. He sees these two lights, two red balls of light about a big. Coming towards him. So he crawls under these bushes, trying to get away because he's afraid. Couldn't go back to the fire because now it's between him and the fire. All right, so he's hiding, and they get within 15, 20ft of him, and there are these two little creatures that were glowing. They could turn. It's like a rheostat. They could turn themselves up and glow brighter, or they could turn themselves down to where they looked almost translucent. And in a dark night, they look just like almost black figures there, but with red eyes. It was their eyes that were red. That's what he was seeing.
Podcast Host/Commentator
Like a humanoid shape.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, they look like humans, like, in a way. I have a photo, a picture I drew, painted. I'll share with you so you can. I painted this in 2009. And so anyhow, I don't know what to think. My son's crying. He's upset. He's seen creatures. He's complaining that I left him, abandoned him, I drag him back to the fire. They're freaked out. These guys are grown men, right? Tough country boys that don't get afraid in the woods. And now they're. They're very quiet. Junior's talking about the creatures. I'm talking about the light. And all of a sudden one of the guys says, look. And we all look up, and there's between eight and nine, maybe 10 stars, bright as Venus that just appeared above us. They just, like, come on. And then they just started flying around and doing. It's almost like somebody choreographed it.
AJ (Interviewer)
And they just appear out of the sky. Just materialized.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, just materialized above us. They were way up there. They were bright as Venus. H1. And they were playing. They were flying out, and they'd come back together. And we were watching this, and all of a sudden, here comes three down, and they land on the other side of the river in front of us. And the river's only 60 or 70 yards wide. It's not a big one.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So here they are on the other side of the river in the woods and pandemonium set in. These guys freaked out. I'm not afraid, I'm mesmerized. Whatever they did to me, I was no longer afraid.
AJ (Interviewer)
I'd be angry at you because you're so peaceful. Yeah.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And they were, they were angry at me. They were panicked. So we ran and jumped in the truck. There's three men in the back seat and Chris and I in the front of a four door Ford pickup.
AJ (Interviewer)
They didn't let you drive, I hope.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I was driving
AJ (Interviewer)
with your arm out with the radio on there screaming at you.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I'm starting up the path right out of there and this road is muddy, real muddy. And the bushes were like scrubbing the mirrors as we went down through there. And they're screaming every breath, go, go, go. And Chris Juniors just want to get home, Dad, I want to get home. One of them told me, told MUFON when we reported it that they had witnessed this red ball of light come out of the woods and come fall following the truck as we were driving up out of there. So undoubtedly they were still there. They'd never left. They just went invisible.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So when we got up to the top of the hill, to where I had my experience, we went up that hill so fast it almost went airborne when I went over. It was a real steep, you know, like an incline there. And there in front of us was the same two red balls of fire in the same exact spot. They had moved. This is four hours later. Right. The third one that appeared and frightened me is no longer a ball of fire, but a Tic Tac. It's a glowing white egg.
AJ (Interviewer)
While you're still in the truck?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, it's in the road in front of us. The one that came over and said, I see you, that's the one that took me. Now it's an egg in the road. It's not red anymore, it's glowing white. It's 45, 50 foot long and it's like a football or an egg.
AJ (Interviewer)
Can you see that it's a structure, that it's a craft? Or is it just light?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It was all light.
AJ (Interviewer)
Just light.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And there was light was doing this. It's like sparkles of light going around. It almost looked like spikes coming out of it. And this thing just pivots. It's only five feet off the ground, 150 yards from us in the road. Pivot starts towards us and as it gets closer it starts rising up. Went right over my sunroof. I opened the sunroof and watched it through it and all the guys were looking out. It was probably 100ft in the air, totally silent. And then it pivoted and shot off like out of a canyon to the north. I hit the gas and we took off. And there become a fight between the guys who gets to go home first.
AJ (Interviewer)
Are the fire orbs still with you?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
At that point there was just balls of. I haven't seen the fire ones now. We left them, they were still sitting there. Okay, so we left because this thing's coming out. It had a path block we couldn't go because the road was blocked. But once it went over us, it was beating on my seat, screaming, I want to see my wife before it's over. We thought the world was coming to an end, that we were being invaded. I didn't understand what was happening, you know, it did something to me. Here's an important thing. We left from that point racing. Only a mile and a half down the street is where I was shot when I was 10 years old, right? Or maybe mile and three quarters. Well, at a mile and a half is where my first wife was killed. And I found her there when I was just a young 21 year old, 20 year old guy. I married this sweetheart that I'd had for four or five years. On the 11th month and 28th day of our marriage, two days before our one year anniversary. I'd been out of town fishing, hunting. Not fishing, hunting. My dad and I and some his hunting club and we'd taken boats down on the coast and we're running dogs on islands, running, chasing deer on islands, right. Grew up doing that. And so I knew that she was going to be at this party out in the country, a bunch of friends since we were young we'd always had a cornfield they'd go hang out in and stay out of trouble, right? Never went to bars and all that.
AJ (Interviewer)
We find trouble somewhere.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, we were out in the country and the law found out about it. They'd come and raid us every now and then. Catch young kids drinking beer and stuff. But so that's. We were at a party, I came in at 9 o' clock and I took off to the party. And I write about this in detail in my book, why I left. One of her old boyfriends was all snuggled up with her when I got there and I turned around and I left. I spoke to him and said I'm going home. So I started home, went two miles down the road and turned around to go back to meet her. Because I'm like, I'm not letting this guy take what's mine. I was just mad, right? Of course I turned around to go back, and on the way back, in this very sharp curb, there was a car laying on its side. And I could see the bottom side of it. And I hit the brakes and jumped out of the car. Didn't know who it was. It was in the front yard of someone's home that had rolled up, went through the curve and rolled end over, end up in these people's yard. I jumped out, I ran up to the car, looked in. Nobody then. Still didn't know what car it was, whose it was. It was dark and it was laying on its side. So as I'm looking in the car, the front door of the house opens. The tires are still turning on. The car just happened, and the motor is still running, laying on its side. I ran to the door. They came out and they looked out, they'd heard it. And I said, you better call the ambulance rescue. Somebody's probably hurt. I can't find who, who it was. So I left and started back to the road, and that's where I tripped over her, laying in the shade.
AJ (Interviewer)
This is your first wife, Dana?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Yeah. She was laying in the shade of the pump house. Water pump. But that night when we left the river, I blamed myself for that all those years. Like I could have that I was part of it, but I wasn't, you know.
AJ (Interviewer)
You'd forgiven yourself at this point.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I couldn't.
AJ (Interviewer)
You couldn't.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. But that night when we left the river, everybody's freaking out, scared. I'm in la la land for what had just happened. I don't know. I'm not afraid. It's the biggest thing I remember. So we get to that mile and a half down from where we were. We go through that curve, through this big, huge thing hovering right over where she was killed. And I slowed down and I'm trying to stop, and they're beating on my seat. Don't stop. And I'm like, I just want to see. I want to see. And they're like, having nothing to do with it. And it spoke to me. It just put this vision in my head, and it said, you have to forgive yourself. She's fine. Don't worry about this any longer. And so that was the first time in 25 years that I had a pinpiece over that. All that Together over the next couple of years is what made me understand this thing was so much bigger than some alien coming from the Pleiades to aggravate me. But anyhow, not to drag that whole event out, but too long. We dropped the guys off, Chris Jr. And I head home. He didn't want to go back that way, was going back towards the house, was that way, shortcut, because we'd had to drive back under that power line and where this thing was. So we took the long way around, got home, it was probably 11:30, and Christopher ran through the house, locking everything. Locking. He'd opened the bathroom door with no window in it, turned the light on and locked the door. He had every door locked all the way, windows shut, all the floodlights on. I'm in my room trying to see on tv, you know, if the military is coming. We just know there's an invasion. Right. Because it wasn't one or it was probably 15 in total that we were seeing that night. Nine or 10 at once, and then others up on the hill.
AJ (Interviewer)
I've heard Chris Jr talk recently, and he still struggles with the story.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, he does. He does. It was traumatic. You can never get over those things. But he's 36 now, and he has a baby on the way. He has two children and one coming, and he's very happy and he understands it now a whole lot more. He ran from it for a long time, and it wasn't all his fault. It was pressure from the community and the church that caused a whole lot of problem for us.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, when you got home from the experience, your wife Yvonne wasn't there yet?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
No, no, she was off at her mother's, staying with her mom. They were doing something for a couple of days. And so we're home. We're home now. The house is locked down. Junior comes in my room where I met, and he's like, have you seen anything? I'm like, no, this is locked, like total normal. I don't know what's happening.
AJ (Interviewer)
Are you still peaceful?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, I am okay. But he's not. No, he's in shock, sure. And suddenly my dad lived next door. We lived out in the country on our houses, beside one another. And he had dog kennels there where he'd raised hunting dogs all his life. Before I was born, he had dogs. He'd have 30 or 40 all the time. One time he had 104, but he had 15 hounds. Then they were all of a sudden, they started barking, all of them. And hounds barked very loud, big mouthy deep voice. And I knew that what they were saying was they were scared. They were doing what I'd call a boo bark, you know, they were dogs. Do they hear or see something but they don't know what it is. I've seen that with bear hunting. A bear come out on a dog descent along will put them in panic.
AJ (Interviewer)
Is that what you thought it was? A bear?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
A bear or a deer or something. So all the dogs are barking. Then I thought maybe somebody's breaking in dad's shop. First thought that was somebody's breaking in the shop because the dog kennel's next to his garage. He and I shared this big 40 foot garage. We had boats and fishing gear and tools in. So I'm imagining the dog seeing somebody going in that shop. And I said, christopher, he's freaked out now. He's scared. These dogs are barking and I'm going outside, I'm going to see who's breaking in that shop. And he didn't want any part of that. He's like, please don't go out there, Daddy, please don't on. I'm like, look, we won't take a flashlight. We got rosie here. She's 110 pound Chesapeake. She'll keep anything away from us. We'll just sneak down there and see who we see, maybe scare them away. And so I opened the door, he had me by the back of the shirt and he never turned me loose. We walked across the yard into the pathway to the dog kennel. It was down in the woods behind the house.
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
We walk in there and I look and they're all looking out the back of the kennel. They're not looking toward the garage, they're looking in the forest behind it. So immediately I thought, maybe it's a bear, right? Because they were barking every breath facing into the forest. All 15, plus my Chesapeake speak. She's frozen, her hair is standing up and she's pointing in the bushes. So I'm whispering to Chris. I said, I'm gonna send her in on whoever's in there. Whatever. Well, let's just run back out to the back of the property. We'll make a run for it. We'll go back and hide behind this big oak tree and see what she pushes out of there. Typical hunting. That's what we hunted doing that try to cut the dogs off, put them in and get in front of them and see what comes out.
AJ (Interviewer)
They're trained to do this.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Yeah. And so I bumped her on the rear and she took off immediately. So we took off running. We didn't have no time. You got to run hard to get down this path and back to the yard and to the back. And I felt Christopher turn a loose when I made a left turn and the grass was getting frosty and I slipped and he turned loose. Not the whole, well, I just outrun him. So I ran as hard as I can. I ran up to this tree and stopped myself, ran up to it in a full run. And I'm trying to be quiet, but I'm breathing, you know, heavy breath, and I'm trying to calm my breath and I'm against the tree and the dog's coming straight at me very loud. You know, it's quiet at night and this thing, you hear it coming through the forest is real loud. So I turned to look back to see if Christopher was coming. And this all happened so quick. And when I looked back, he was gone. He Didn't. He didn't come. He took. He couldn't stand anymore, so he ran to the house. When he turned loose, he took a right, I took a left.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yep.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
But when I did, AJ There standing behind me about arm's length was this little figure, yay tall, which I painted it. And it was glowing white, about three
AJ (Interviewer)
feet, three and a half feet.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Three feet. No more than three, probably. And it had. It was glowing white and it had what looked like a triangle on its chest, a dark area that was triangle shaped. And it had red glowing eyes about this big around, and they were round, perfectly round glowing eyes. And it scared me. Scared me bad when I saw it. Oh, my God. So I backed myself up to the tree to try to get away from it, but I got a tree, you know, I'm looking at it, so I turn and face it and I dropped my hands and I said, I surrender. And the dog's coming, still coming.
AJ (Interviewer)
Rosie's barking.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
She's barking. Every breath coming very close.
AJ (Interviewer)
So she sees these.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, she's. Yeah, she's senses it.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think the energy dogs have a way of seeing things we can't. Right.
AJ (Interviewer)
I agree.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So it's definitely the dogs coming. This all happened very quick. I'm facing this three foot thing that's glowing. I'm panicked that I'm going to die. I thought it was going to kill me. And I said, I surrender. I don't mean you any harm. And it said, you don't understand. We're here to help you, not hurry you. That's exactly what it said. And then the dog comes out of the bushes and this thing vanishes right in front of me. It's immediately vanished.
AJ (Interviewer)
It speak or you heard this in your mind?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I heard it in my mind. Loud. Sounded like a man's voice. Deep, thunderous loud. That's one of the few times I ever heard audible voice. You know, you don't hear voices, but I heard that one plain. I heard when the lady came in 2012, this audible voice.
AJ (Interviewer)
No, I would definitely want to get into that.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Lady arise. Just like that. And so it vanishes. And when MUFON did their investigation, that whole tree started decaying and dying and rotted down. They found some kind of something on it that radiated it and killed it. That's what they said. So I go back to the house thinking how I'm going to tell Christopher about this. Right. I better not say anything.
AJ (Interviewer)
Good call.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. And so I made it to the house and now I'm panicked. I was a Smoker. Then I had to have a cigarette. I got to have a cigarette smoking.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's why you could not run this thing.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And so I'm trying to define itself, cigarette. And Chris is like, you can't go outside, you can't go outside to smoke. So I go over to my back in my sunroom and put my feet, knees on the couch and reach over behind it and started raising the window up, right, the blinds. I didn't even get the wind up. When I raised the blinds, the floodlights on that corner was illuminating this 7 foot tall being that was walking towards me towards the house. I could see it in the floodlight 20ft away. That scared me.
AJ (Interviewer)
What did that look like?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Like the being on the Crabwood crop circle.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay, so this is also a humanoid,
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
very tall, skinny thing. And it was, it was scary looking. So I grabbed Junior by the arm, didn't tell him. I said, we don't want to stay here tonight, we're going to go somewhere else. So we went four or five miles away and this is midnight, one o'.
AJ (Interviewer)
Clock.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Where are we going to go? Right. So we went down to a big hay field parked in the middle to where I could see in every direction until the sun come up. I'm having to manage my child. He's panicking.
AJ (Interviewer)
Have you ever heard of the incident at Devil's Den?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I've heard of Devil's Den, yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's almost the same creatures, really. It's small creatures with red eyes and a very large being with them.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Wow, I never knew that.
AJ (Interviewer)
And they're, they're walking around the forest and they're picking up different objects and surveying them.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And so that's what they were doing with Chris. He was sitting there pinned down under the bushes and they were 20ft from him, two of them, and one was on its knees picking up bottles and cans and sticks. And it would look at him and put him on the ground while the other one was staring at him the whole time. And he said that he couldn't scream, he couldn't yell. He felt frozen when it looked at him. He had absolutely no control over his self. He couldn't talk, he couldn't move. And he felt a lot of trauma there.
AJ (Interviewer)
At Devil's Den, that large creature had a triangle on his chest.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Get the heck out.
AJ (Interviewer)
I'd never heard shows up in all these stories, the triangle.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I never heard that. Yeah, makes sense why NASA come calling and said, we'd like to talk about that little being with the triangle on his chest.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, where are we chronologically at this point. So you're at the. You were Junior, your wife is back yet?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
She comes back two days later.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So this is on a Tuesday night, I think.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
By the end of the week, Thursday or Friday, she comes home with the other kids. And I had the greatest story to tell and it was scaring my wife because she being raised in the Pentecostal Holiness Church and her family is. They're part of the, they're part of the whole movement. They brought it to North Carolina. Her grandmas and, and ancestors. So they were very big in the conference. So I had that whole power on my head there. It got. The first night. That was the first night. The end of the first night.
AJ (Interviewer)
When you were telling her the story, were you telling it from that position of peace or. Because I can't see her reacting positively.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I was telling her the story. Story. And it was. Couldn't get a word in because Kris Jr. Was telling it too. Right, right. And she didn't want to believe it. And then when the other guys came a couple days later, they came back to the house to, to bring back my fishing poles because we left everything on the river.
AJ (Interviewer)
Sure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
We left coolers and all sitting right there, sticks still with the rods in them. And so she questioned them and immediately, immediately the church condemned it as the devil.
AJ (Interviewer)
How did the church find out?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, my wife's family is the church. My mom and my family, they're all big in the church and we live in the Bible Belt. Right, sure. So the whole community.
AJ (Interviewer)
Did she tell them because she was worried?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, she was worried how to handle this with the children, but. Because the children were frightened.
AJ (Interviewer)
Sure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
My 10 year old daughter, she thought I was interrupting their school. It just disrupted everything. The school, their sleep. And I was a bit. I'd have to say my wife is a very. I love her. We've been together 43 years and I couldn't live without her. Right. She, she's the calm person, she's the mother. Right. And she's worried about school in the morning and I'm like Dustin Hoffman all
AJ (Interviewer)
of a sudden with the mashed potatoes.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, I was just like that. I still am. I mean I came home and she said I looked wild in the eyes. I was just telling us, oh my God, you won't believe what happened. And when she calls her family and my family and all that, then it turns out and too it was a demonic experience. You're playing with the devil because the Christian church believes, you know, not the Catholics. No, no, not the Catholics, Protestants, they preach it's the devil. Not knowing. It's just part of their. Any light you see, it's not of God, it's got to be evil.
AJ (Interviewer)
How did you know it wasn't?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Because it healed me. And it told me, I'm here to help you, not hurt you. But I struggled with what? All that. Who was that? Was it an alien? Didn't act like what an alien. It knew my prayer. It heard me. So I started researching the Bible and I learned that these chariots of fire, immediately it started making sense. So I furthered my research into meeting Dr. Diana Salka and Dr. George Zervos and a whole lot of other religious scholars and people that know this. And we started digging into the text and researching and have. Still researching.
AJ (Interviewer)
What did you find in your research of the Bible that tracks with this story?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, this is something. Diana gave me the information and she said, I'm going to give you this. I can't talk about it, but I'll let you. I'm going to tell you this. I want you to pay attention to what I'm going to tell you. And that is in the Bible. Throughout the Bible, Mark, Matthew, Luke, Revelations, and even in Exodus, there is something called the clouds of heaven. This will be in my next book, by the way. But the clouds of heaven, I'm like, what is that, Diana? And she said, well, these clouds, some of them are talking, some of them are shiny, some of them are feeding people, some of them are protecting people. For example, Exodus, it says, and an angel of the Lord went before the children of Israel for 38 years in a pillar of a cloud. Pillar meaning a pylon or cylinder. Right. Wherever that thing went, for 38 years, they camped underneath, fed them manna in the morning, and it gave them shade by the day and warmth and light at night for 38 years. Right. Matthew 26, Matthew 24 talks about Jesus, when I come back, I'm coming in the clouds of heaven, or on the clouds of heaven. Heaven. I'm gonna come back the way I left from here. And he left. It says he left. He was taken up in a cloud. So Diana educated me on this very carefully, and there's just tons of evidence.
AJ (Interviewer)
Do you know Daniel 10. Talks about the. He's made of topaz. He's made of light. Yeah, if that's the right book.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, that. That Daniel, Chapter 10 talks about his angelic vision, what he saw. Daniel saw an angel. Daniel, chapter 10 talks about. And there stood before him this. This angel that was Glowing. And it was so shiny, it looked like topaz. And it had red eyes like fire, like torches. Yeah, yeah. Light fire torches. Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
And in Ezekiel 40, he talks about meeting a messenger made of shiny bronze who shows them this temple of the future.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Crazy, huh?
AJ (Interviewer)
And then in Enoch 19, Archangel Uriel takes him up above the clouds and shows him the origins of the wind and the earth and takes them over Egypt and all these places. And I thought you had an experience kind of like that, didn't you?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
That's where they took me. So I didn't know what happened during those four hours. What happened? I had no clue. But after Dr. O' Connell came from Harvard and he started working on me, he said, you'll remember it all over time.
AJ (Interviewer)
He was a student of Dr. Mack. No.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yep. John Mack. He trained under Mac.
AJ (Interviewer)
So John Mack, for Folks Listening, was an expert psychiatrist, award winning at Harvard, who specialized in abduction and experiencers.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
He actually started all this research.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes, he did.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Dr. Michael O' Connell was a student of his and got his degrees there. And he started helping me with hypnosis to get rid of this headache that I had. Every time I tried to think about what happened, I'd get this massive headache and I would eventually pass out. Did it numerous times in front of investigators. My wife would tell you, you keep asking him the questions. He's not gonna. He's gonna pass out on you. Because it was such a block in there. It would become this pressure, and it would get so painful that I would just go. I'd black out. He removed that to where I could think about it, and it wasn't painful anymore. And he said, if you learned everything overnight, it would probably cause you to melt down. So we're going to program your subconscious to reveal everything over time. And that's what he did. So immediately I started dreaming all kinds of weird dreams. And I would start yelling and crying in my sleep and all this. And it started scaring my wife and the kids. I go to bed early because I get up early. Well, they're night owls, right? They'd come sneaking in the room because they hear me and record me in my sleep talking and stuff.
AJ (Interviewer)
What were you saying?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I was saying all kinds of things. In fact, one crazy thing I was saying is that they took me to Egypt. It was like a virtual tour, being inside a bubble. Something clear, round. I could touch the walls, but I couldn't see it. And I was looking at the Sphinx and the pyramids and Hathor's temple and all these obelisks. And stuff. And they were narrating what I was seeing. I started first getting images, not the information.
AJ (Interviewer)
Were they narrating like a tour guide in a museum?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yep. Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
So there wasn't a. Like a message. It was just this is Hather's temple. This is.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Well, I didn't know what it was. I just saw it. Right, right. And so that, that caused me to get into deep research into Egypt. And I met Dr. Robert Gilbert, that ran the Vesica Institute. You know, he was sacred geometry is what he taught. Sadly, he passed away last year. But he made a lot of sense to what I was seeing. And so it's been a long journey trying to figure it out. I don't have the answers. Like everybody thinks the more I learn, the more I learn. I don't know. Right, right. It's just a big. This is so big big. We can't imagine what is around us and. But they took me up over the Midwest. I saw what I was crying in fear about. My wife recorded one particular thing was I was saying in my sleep that they were showing me bigfoot on Mars, of all things.
AJ (Interviewer)
Oh, come on.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I'm not joking. I saw it in a. In the dream or asleep. I was asleep that she recorded that. But I remember seeing it in the dream, you know, landing in this bubble and here comes walking up these creatures that were furry looking. So she's asking me questions and I'm answering in my sleep. But it all began to center around. The scary thing was, and this is what got the powers that be interested even more is that I saw the sun start to grow in size in the sky.
AJ (Interviewer)
Before you get to that. Is this before what you call in your book your five years of darkness?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
This was in the five years of darkness.
AJ (Interviewer)
Can you tell me little bit about how you went from this experience where you're feeling peaceful and then now five years of dark. That's a lot of darkness. What happened?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, why I call it that is I came home with a story that I'm Dustin Hoffman. They're looking at me like, look, he's crazy. He's lost it. You know, he's. Because I'm saying all this weird stuff, right? And I'm really like Dustin Hoffman. I'm obsessed with it. Bad. And I couldn't control it. And that turned into a backfire because the more I talked about it, the worse it got. And it got so bad that I come home one day and there's the sheriff pulls up in the yard and he saw social workers and it got so bad that at school, at elementary schools and high schools, they were questioning my kids because I was on TV. Now I made a DVD in 2008, you know, MUFON did that and promised to vindicate me. And they made it worse. Five and far.
AJ (Interviewer)
That was a hit job.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, it was a hit job. And so now I've got the school question in my kids. Next thing I know, some social services is at my house trying to take me out of the house from my family. Oh, this is the darkness. For five years this went on. It was just constant.
AJ (Interviewer)
This might be two personal question, but is your wife on your side at this point?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, yeah, she's on my side, but it's out of control now, right, Everybody, she's just trying to be a mom and live her normal life and. And raise her four kids, Right?
AJ (Interviewer)
And are you still welcome in church?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, yeah, no. They told me if I. I had to completely stop talking about this if I ever wanted to be involved in the church anymore. And I'm like, sorry, I am having church. To me, it is church. It's not evil. It's not the devil. It's something much greater. And I aimed to pursue that. So, yeah, they kind of gave me that ultimatum there. Although I've been a couple of times during Easter or Mother's Day, you know, that I'll go with the wife.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, I want us to take a break in just a minute, but can you give us, before we go on a break, that final scene, that final moment in Five Years of Darkness where you went out?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Okay. Yeah. That's when it all changed.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah. And then when we come back, we can get into.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Okay, good. So five years of fighting social services, fighting the community's ridicule. So bad. It was so bad, I wouldn't go to the grocery store anymore. I'd hold my head down. And here I'm working with NASA, right? I've got NASA scientists at my house, and I'm down at Cape Canaveral and all these places. I ain't gotten Cape Canaveral yet, but I'm with NASA. It was a NASA scientist, Al Palmeyer, went to my mom and dad's house and said, you need to listen to your son. He's not lying.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah, don't worry, gang. We're going to get into all that in a moment.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So at the end of five years, it was Easter of 2012. I was so beat down that Richard Dreyfuss in me had gone into hiding. Now in shame, the zeal that I Had hadn't gone away. But the wall I was hitting is now affecting my kids because my kids are coming home crying, sure, they're being made fun of in school, picked on in the hallways and called out in class by teachers and children. So I went to bed that night at 9:30. It was a Saturday night of 2012, before Easter. So that morning, Sunday morning's Easter, right? I walked out about 9 o' clock and I looked up at the heavens. And it killed me to say it because I was so deeply moved by what happened and the Richard Dreyfuss experience and to talk to it and to find more. This was all I wanted. And I had to concede. I let the community beat me down and the church and the family. And I say extended family. Our family's big in our town. We've been there since the 1700s. So there's two or 300 cousins that live around or relatives in that town. So I went out and I shouted at the heavens. Why did you do this to me? Now I've ruined my children's lives. I was sick. Thank you for healing me. I lost everything. Now I have nothing. It's worse. I can't even get a job now. Nobody will hire me. And I put in for several jobs. I needed work. I couldn't get any work. Not even family members would hire me. People that work for me, you got that back. So I shouted at God and I said, I quit. I'll never talk about this again, to save my children and what's left there. And I went to bed at 9:30, at 3 o' clock in the morning. And I know it was 3 because when I heard this voice, I heard it, it was so loud, it woke me up out of a dead sleep. My clock, my alarm clock on the counter. Back then we had the digital ones. Now you don't have those anymore. It said 3am So I heard it and I stood up and it was set up in the bed. And I could see movement, just flare, just not very clear, but I could see movement at the bed in my room.
AJ (Interviewer)
Let's stop there. Let's take a break.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Okay.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's a good spot for a break.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Good.
AJ (Interviewer)
We'll be right back. It's Easter 2012 and you shout, I'm done. I don't want any more to do with this. You ruined my life. You wake up at 3am and this
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
voice that said, arise. And it sounded like the deepest manly voice I'd ever heard. So I wake up, I see this movement at the end of My bed. And I'm like, who said that? I know you're in here. Those are the very words I said. And I don't know what happened,
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
they are able to control our movements and what we do. Maybe they can turn time off, I don't know. But I got up fully dressed, and I was in my underclothes. Right now I'm in full blue jeans, socks, coat. And I'm heading outside. So I walk behind these shadowy figures, following them. You're not afraid? No. I haven't been afraid since. Okay. Ever since what happened to me, I lost all fear. Okay. Yeah. I bite it, you know? And it's not here to hurt. And I knew that. I still know that. So I'm following it, and it leads me out to the dog kennel, right where Chris Jr. And I put Nellie in the forest and said, go get him. They were standing in the same spot. And one of these shadowy figures hands me something. It stops and it reaches out and it hands me this object. And I said, this is yours. You must keep. That's what he said. So I reached out and I took it. And when I did, it felt like holding a hedgehog, how they had little spikes on them. It felt pretty prickly, so I dropped it on the ground.
AJ (Interviewer)
No head or tail?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
No head, no tail. It just felt like a bag of bones, like an animal with no legs. No head, no tail.
AJ (Interviewer)
You're describing a tribble from Star Trek. Okay, so you dropped it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I dropped it and said, no, you must keep this. So I reached down, pick it up. It said, you must keep this. So I reached down to pick it up, and I'm juggling the thing. I'm scared of it. I don't. What I got is dark, right? And I look up and they're gone. So I'm standing at the dog kennel. So I reached over and I thought, I'm going to not let it get away. I'm not going to lose it. I open the dog kennel, set it in, close the door. Are the dogs in there? No, they. They're gone.
AJ (Interviewer)
So whatever this is, is not safe from the.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
All the dogs are gone.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
This is five years later. And the minute I close that door, I felt this blast of air. This wind just hit me, like physical wind. And it wasn't the trees. It wasn't the wind like you. It was concentrated. It was in front of me. It was almost like somebody blasted me with an air blower, caught me off balance and pushed me over backwards. So I fell to my back. In the leaves, right where all this happened with the dog in 2007. And as I'm falling backwards, I see what was coming at me out of this blackness. It's like I'm looking at an oak tree, but now I can't see it. I see the tops of it. But this hole opens up and out comes this bull. Like a huge cow. Runs right over me. And I could see through it. It was translucent. I could see the stars up in it. And it was just so quick and so powerful. It scared me because of the force from the wind and this thing. I grew up on a farm, right? Working. My neighbor had a dairy farm, had cows. We had pigs. But the minute it went over, I land on my back and I roll to my stomach. So now I'm facing behind me and I'm getting up to run all in the same time. And when I do, there's no longer a cow there. Standing, not standing. About six to eight feet from me is floating this most beautiful woman from. From heaven. That's all I could say. She. You would think it's an angel or whatever it is. She looks at me and she leans towards me, and she looks at me and she says, you know why I'm here? And I know why. Because it was hard for me to fuss at God. And whatever it was, I still try not to label this, right, because we really don't know. And it's up to everybody to experience that, figure it out on their own. But she said, you know why I'm here. You're not going to quit. She said, this is your burden. You have to bear. And she said, if you'll continue to do this, I promise you I'll be with you and I will help you. And on top of that, I'll allow you to feel my presence and let you share us with others. Before, I couldn't film it. That's one of the things that made me so angry. I'd go out and there's an orb hovering 100ft over the house. Golden orb. Pull my camera out and it says, memory, Carter.
AJ (Interviewer)
Error.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Camera don't work anymore. Or every time it would appear. When I get the camera out, it disappear. It wouldn't let me film it. So I'll never forget. Right after that, I started amassing a database and never had any information. But now I've got a lot.
AJ (Interviewer)
Chris, you mentioned that you were shown Hathor's temple. I don't know if you know this, but she's the goddess of maternity and motherhood. And according to Ancient Egypt, she is the sky. She came before everything.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And Sophia.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes. Which I think in Greek is wisdom. And Hathor is depicted as a cow in ancient Egypt. And whenever she's depicted as a human, she always has horns.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, she told me that because I asked who she was, and she said she had many names that she was from. She was called Hathor in Egypt. And that resonated with me because first thing they showed me was Egypt.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And I saw the faces of Hathor carved in the temples, and it's like cow ears and stuff.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And so immediately that resonated. But she said she had many names in many countries, many cultures, from Diana to Demeter to Hera to the white buffalo calf, Luke, lady in the American Southwest.
AJ (Interviewer)
American Southwest. Hinduism, Buddhism, Lakshmi. Could it be Mary? Could it be?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I suppose it could be, but in my research, I know that the word spirit, the definition of a spirit, nobody really understands that. But it's the wind, right? And the word holy spirit is the breath of God. Well, that most impactful thing to me was not only seeing and hearing, but the wind that pushed me over the cow running over. I saw it, but the wind, physically, it frightened me. It hit me so hard. You know what I mean? So here's this force that came at me only to reveal itself as the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. So I went from extreme fear to, oh, my God, what am I looking at?
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
She's allowed me to share her presence or. Or the orbs with everyone.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes, she has. Every. All those men that were on that trip with you, that fishing trip have all come forward and corroborated. Your son has said it happened. I think orb sightings in your presence are now numbering in the thousands. Hundreds of people have seen them.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Thousands.
AJ (Interviewer)
Thousands of people.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. I've had a thousand at one time.
AJ (Interviewer)
So now I don't know what to call her. The Divine Feminine or whatever. Now you're back on your mission.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right?
AJ (Interviewer)
So take us back through Crohn's disease, which is a very difficult disease with no cure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Horrible.
AJ (Interviewer)
And you were cured of that?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's gone. I went to Chapel Hill. A doctor sent me to Chapel Hill to find out if. Where it had gone to, if the markers were still there. And there are no markers.
AJ (Interviewer)
When did that happen? When were you cured?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I was cured in 2000, 2007, 2009. I came down with rheumatoid arthritis and it really didn't get bad. But I know to me that rheumatoid came on from the stress during those five years. And I'm in remission now. It did a lot of damage, but even the rheumatoid doctor said, well, maybe even Gary Nolan. Gary. No. Nolan told me that it probably was a reprieve from the Crohn's and it came back as ra. Could be. I went to Chapel Hill. Chapel Hill. I have the paper. I'll share with you. It says there's absolutely no.
AJ (Interviewer)
I believe you.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
No marker there. It did not move from one to the other. So, yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
And this healing a bit unbelievably you have shared with others. Can you talk a little bit about that? Because when I say share with others, I don't mean a boy in your neighborhood. I mean you've been summoned to the White House.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, well, that was part of what she gave me when she came in 2012.
AJ (Interviewer)
Did it start with Nellie?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Did it started with. With my dog and That's. And believe it or not, she came back in 2013. It didn't happen the first year. In 2012, 2013, she came back and she told me on 2013 about the. The thing with Iran and Israel. So it was 2013 is when I first got that information, and that's the year that I was asked to put it right into the Pentagon.
AJ (Interviewer)
What did she see between Iran and Israel?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
She said, when you see Israel and Iran begin to exchange missiles, and I saw them in vision, you know, they give you telepathic. You see, it's like looking at a television, really. That's what it kind of looks like. She said, when you see these happen, that's when we're going to come in and we're going to start waking up the population. We're going to reveal ourselves, which will change the consciousness of people. So all this new knowledge is about disclosure, it's about consciousness, and they're going to make it happen because it tames people. It opens us up, it turns us into psychic beings. It gives us power. A lot of things, this does.
AJ (Interviewer)
All right, we'll get back to that in a little bit. Can you tell. Can you just start with Nellie? It's such a touching story. Then what happens from.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So this is how this went down, 2013.
AJ (Interviewer)
And there are pictures of all of this.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, there's witnesses, a lot of witnesses. So 2013, Easter. She comes two weeks later, two weeks after Easter. This journalist, UFO, is a UFO researcher out of Canada. Good friend of mine, a guy I really have a lot of liking for, is Grant Cameron. Grant is on the way from. From Congress. They were doing this mock Congress thing in Washington. And he calls me, says, I'm going to Florida to do an event down there and would love to stop on the way and visit you. I said, why don't you come stay the night? He says, okay, comes, he stays two days. He goes to Florida. He calls me on the way back and he's like, man, can I just stop back by? I'd like to at least take pictures of the Burning Tree. I didn't get to do that while I was there. And so.
AJ (Interviewer)
The burning Tree.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, that's something else that happened right after the lady come, I'll show you this. I have the video of it.
AJ (Interviewer)
There's so many biblical connections to this story.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, true, true story. We have it on video. And I'll get back to Grant and Nellie. Right. So in October of 2013. October that year. October 2012. 13. 2012. Because Grant, come on 2013. Right. October 2012, right after the lady comes. She came in April. Here it is October. It had been raining for two days. My wife and I and children were living next to my dad on a six acre property, right, 600ft deep property and probably 500ft wide or something like that. And I was a smoker then. That's when I quit smoking. I quit smoking October 2012, after the lady came and seeing this, I wasn't going to smoke anymore. Right, good idea. So we were watching tv, my wife and I. I said, I gotta smoke. So I paused the movie we were watching on the Cablevision box. Okay, well, I paused it. I walked out the back door, lit up a cigarette. I'm on the back patio, it's a concrete patio. The wife says, I'll be out in a minute. So she's walking by the back door, there's a full glass door. And she looks out at me through the glass and sees way back in the back of the property, this tree. What looked like somebody lit a couple of bottle rockets off from the ground and they shot up and they did this, right? She sees that and says, what? She opened the door, she said, what's going on with that tree? I said, I have no idea. But I saw that too. And then all of a sudden sparks would poof out three feet and they would, they would just kind of do like fireworks, it looked like. Then suddenly, poof, this thing erupted into flames and it's burning 12ft in. The air from the inside of the tree is burning and it's shooting up through the tops. She freaks out, oh my God, how did this happen? And we run out and anyhow, Ryan, my son, he takes his iPad, he's got his hand, and he starts filming. This just tree just spontaneously combusted in our backyard. So I run a hose pipe all the way out there, give it to my wife, and she puts it up in the tree, inside of it and sprays it all and puts it out. Messed her up so bad she couldn't sleep. Think that was at 9:30. At 12:00, she walks by the back door and looks and it's burning again.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's burning again.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So we go out and we put it out the second time at 3am she can't sleep, she goes by the door, there it is burning again. So she puts it out the third time, 9, 12 and 3. And so Grant is there wanting to see this tree. I have a video. I'll share that Burning tree video. It's under my name, Chris Bledsoe. Burning Tree. You can look that up on YouTube. It's been there since way back then. And that tree became very famous. I bet it did, yeah. A lot of people would bring articles of clothing and all and put in a tree and healings would happen and stuff. So April 2013, Grant Cameron comes two weeks after Easter, and we walk out to the tree. We look at the tree and stand around it 20 minutes, conversating. He's got his camera all in it and around it, right? And my black Labrador, Nellie, is laying beside us. She just would walk where we'd lay down, right? So she'd been with us the whole time. Grant's like, okay, I'm. So we start back to 75 yards from back there to the back door of the house. All my kids are standing on the patio. They have friends there. Grant's got his camera in his hand. He's been filming the tree, right? And Nellie and Grant and I walk right up to the patio, stop short of the patio. I'm standing on the dirt. He's standing on the patio between me and the house. He's looking at me. I'm looking at the house. Nellie's laying here beside us, right? I said, grant, if you want, I'll get the kids to get your bags out of the car and you can just stay the night with us. He's like, oh, that'd be fabulous. So immediately he turns his back to me and starts toward the door. So the back door's open. We live in the country. I heat it with wood. It didn't even have heat. So I'd leave the doors open that time of year, and windows and off. And so Nellie takes off to beat us in the door. You know, a dog would do that. They try to cut you and get in front of you. But she did it. And when she did, I saw her go by and blood shoot out of her neck, right outside of her neck. Long stream of blood wet down Grant's pants. There's a string of blood going right on in the back of the house. And I ran in the door. Oh, my God. I tackled her on the floor. And it's LV plank flooring, you know, it's real slippery, especially with blood. It's a slippery thing. I tackle her and I drag her back out the house. She's about 80 pounds heavy, and me with rheumatoid arthritis, you know, it was adrenaline that kicked in. So I drag her out and I lay her on the patio. And we're all looking, and Grant's down there. With the camera. And she's got a whole in her neck this long, right across her vein. We don't know how it got there. My friend at NASA, the Dragon, he suggested maybe I should look into healing because maybe the phenomenon is trying to tell me something. So I didn't think about it, but that's what happened. But here's how it went. She's laying there bleeding to death. I got my hand on her neck. Blood's coming up through my fingers. Every time her heart would beat, blood would shoot out. It's all over the floor, patio in Grants pants. So I knew at that moment she wasn't going to live because we were 30 minutes from a vet out in the country, 25. She's going to bleed to death before I can even get her in the car. There's just that much blood. And so I just kind of. I can remember blocking everyone out. I didn't realize who was standing there at that moment. I just looked up at heaven. I said, lord, you got to help her. She's going to die. And the minute I said it, I felt her struggle. She went limp. And the picture I'll share with you has her laying there completely limp. Didn't even wiggle. It went on for a while to where I had Chris Jr. Go get a rag. I thought maybe we could put pressure on it and help it stop the hole. So he went in and got a washcloth. Right. So everybody sees what's happening. But the minute I said the prayer, she went limp. I lifted the raw cloth over her neck and the holes disappeared. It was gone. She just stood up and waggled her tell them. Walked away like nothing happened. Grant saw it. He documented it. He wrote a paper on it, an article or two. And so I told that to my NASA friends. And I told it to someone. After the lady came, a whole lot of people started showing up.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, when. When did the government first?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
2008.
AJ (Interviewer)
How. How did they find you? How did they. Did you report what happened?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I reported it. Well, let's just say in 2007 is when it happened.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
In January, under my wife's wishes not to ever talk about it anymore because it was interrupting the children and the schedule. I decided I wouldn't talk about it and try to hold. But I'm Richard Dreyfuss. Right?
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I got a talk about it captive. And so I went in agony. I went in depression and slept in my little office for October, 10 months. I went and talked to my wife. I was so upset. Felt restricted. But I Understood her position with the kids. Right. But I had so much anxiety, and I just had to talk to somebody. So I went on the computer and found this outfit called MUFON and said, report your sighting. So I wrote it up, and I didn't hit send because I knew if I did, I might lose my family. Yeah. So for two weeks there, I looked at it in agony. I finally hit the button, and the very next day, I get a call out of California from a guy named Jim Dimont, I think his name was. And he's like, man, this is. We want to come visit and we want to investigate. I'm like, hold on. I just wanted to tell somebody, I don't want you here. This is going to cause me a problem. So I said, no, thank you. So January comes along. This is October. They're calling me every week. And I kept telling them, mufon's calling. Yeah, every week. And January comes. They called me and said, we're going to officially close the case if you don't want to talk about it. They'd already opened the case file. I said, well, okay, I'll talk about it. So within a week, within February of that year of 2008, I allowed them to come in February. So it happened in January of 2007. So I'm February of 08, a year and a month later, and we shoot. I forgot where I was going with that.
AJ (Interviewer)
When. How the government first.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. So when I reported it, Jim Simivan told me that he knew the very minute that I reported it.
AJ (Interviewer)
Because some would say MUFON and the government have a little bit of all the same.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's a data gathering apparatus. That's all they do is they gather data and they use volunteer people to do it. So they. You get a sighting, they ask you, hey, A.J. since you had that sighting, you want to become an investigator for mupon? Yeah. And it's exciting, right? And they can tell if you're like Richard Dreyfuss, you'll fall for it every time. And they tried to give me a training manual and. But I never. Because what happened next was terrible. This is 2008, February. By March, they had six or seven investigators at my house all the time. And they were convincing me to do a documentary on discovery. We're going to vindicate you. This was a month, two months after I met them, they already had it in place. By June, they had the whole thing shot. And I was determined to. To prove myself that, you know, I saw this, it really happened. And the community said, no, it didn't you know you're dealing with the devil? Long story short, it backfired.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes, it did. MUFON did a hit job on you. And what everyone points to is that you didn't pass the lie detector test, which, on my channel, I tell everybody that those things do not work. But what's not emphasized is you pass a psychiatric exam perfectly. A perfectly sane man.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. And the lie detector was. It was a farce. They gave me 34 questions. You're only supposed to have three or four questions, you know.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
But they asked me 34 over and over for two hours. And it was an abusive thing. The whole thing was abuse. They came in and filmed this show. And I write about this in the book where they. My little children were so excited. Hollywood's coming. Right. My daughter's 10, 11 years old. Here they come and they. They got these assistants going around a lot like your staff. They're working to support the thing. And they come and they take my kids, order us for dinner. Are they going to send out for dinner? And we were all, you know, they're all in my house. They took my whole house over. There's 17 people in their crew. My whole house is rearranged couches, moved furniture, cameras. They go out and get dinner, took our order, and when they got back, the kids was. Went to the table and they didn't have any food for us, and they left. The producer said, well, you guys weren't in the budget.
AJ (Interviewer)
Wow.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So they sat there in my house, ordered food and ate without feeding us. And I knew then I was in a mess.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah. And then went and aired a hit job on you.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So that's the kind of thing that happened.
AJ (Interviewer)
And is that where the government.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, the government, yeah. Jim said he knew immediately it was a hit job.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yep.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Felt sorry for me. And. And he said I could never talk to you until I retired from CIA. But once I overtly retired, then he's the first one I met. Wait, this is Jimivan.
AJ (Interviewer)
Jim Simivan.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
Who wrote the forward on your book.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
So this is a senior CIA official. When did you first meet him?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I met him in 2013, right after.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right after the lady.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right after the healing. But the first government person I met was Dr. Hannah Hal Pobbeier from NASA.
AJ (Interviewer)
He is a. He is a debunker.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, he was.
AJ (Interviewer)
He was.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. So they sent him to debunk my case. Right. He's a senior official at NASA for. You know, Or a contractor with them. Engineer. Still holds a security clearance. When he died 59, 60 years he was there. Yeah, he was serious people, right? But he shows up one day in the fall or summer, right after the thing aired in June or July, within a month, he knocks on my door. My son Ryan calls me. I'm in town working or something, and he's called his dad. There's this very tall guy from NASA here at the house, wants to meet you. I said, NASA? He said, yeah, he drove all the way from Cape Canaveral by chance to find you. I said, well, tell him to hang around, I'll be there in an hour. So he did. And I was terrified because I had been told by mufons, people in the UFO world, they'll kill you to go
AJ (Interviewer)
the Men in black.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, they're gonna kill you, right? And so we were. The whole family is terrified by this giant of a man, Right?
AJ (Interviewer)
Turned out this isn't from the government's never good news.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, right. Turned out he was. He was like a family man. He stayed with our family until he died in 2019. Thanksgiving, he was coming, he and Katie, his wife, were coming to visit us for Thanksgiving. He was 80 and he fell and hit his head. And he never come to after that.
AJ (Interviewer)
Was he the one who got you involved in the intelligence community?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, in a way, that and Jim. But he was there in 2008 and he would come every year for two, three, four, five times a year and stay, come to my kids birthdays, he'd come to my daughter's recitals. And he told me, he said, chris, he told everybody, you know, that's what I did. I debunked everything. I was the one that did that. He said, but I have to tell you, I could not. He said, I found eight witnesses in Gray's Creek where this thing happened on the river. MUFON didn't go out and look. He went and put in the effort. He went to the airport, he went to. He checked behind me, he checked my building records, he checked everything. And he could never debunk me. And went right before he died, he said, chris, he said, I know about everything there is to know about this. I've been there a long time and I've always wondered, is it spiritual or is it alien? He said, we all suspect one or the other, but not sure. He said, but now I know. I know now it's about God. And that's what the very guy at NASA told me, that.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, at this point, meaning present day, you've had CIA, dod, eia, all of them.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, and I mean senior Leaders, not some low congresspeople.
AJ (Interviewer)
What is their interest in this phenomena?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
This is as much as of an interest. It's more of an interest to the government than us. I mean, we want to know. Know it. They're people like us, right? Right. And they want us. They want to know what it is, but also they want to know the technology and how to defend. So whatever.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah, so there's. There's the human curiosity about the spiritual aspect, but there's also fear that there's technology that we can't defend against.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Because you don't know. You know, most people automatically. Their condition. Condition to believe alien things are alien. It's coming from the Pleiades or this or that.
AJ (Interviewer)
And you don't believe that.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think it lives right beside us. All the time it's around us. It knows your thoughts. I know this. I can demonstrate it at any time with groups of people.
AJ (Interviewer)
I believe you.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Now, what if there.
AJ (Interviewer)
This is maybe out there, but what if there's life on other planets? Does this energy exist all ever for infinitely.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, I think it's. I think something. I was concerned about the triangle. I asked people at government, the dragon and others, what does that triangle mean? What does that mean?
AJ (Interviewer)
The dragon, by the way, is Tim Taylor, who's a very elusive figure. And he seems like he could swipe his card and get anywhere.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And he can. And in the White House or any king or queen, it doesn't matter. The Vatican. He walked right in the bottom. The basement of the Vatican, the archives. I know somebody else can too.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, who's that?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
That's a friend out of Washington.
AJ (Interviewer)
You don't want to name him?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
No. He probably wouldn't want me to name.
AJ (Interviewer)
So the Vatican is interested in this as well?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Oh, yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
Have they been in touch with you?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They have through several people, yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
What is the Vatican
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
to them? What I'm seeing is the Virgin Mary, Right?
AJ (Interviewer)
Right. And they're good.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Fatima. What do they see? Orbs.
AJ (Interviewer)
They saw orbs.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Mostly orbs they see. Sometimes they get the full apparition, but a lot of. Of times at these holy sites, they see the orbs.
AJ (Interviewer)
And I think the Catholic Church now has acknowledged UFOs and I could be wrong, but haven't they revealed at this point the three secrets of Fatima, which were Hell, War and the end of religion? Was the white bishop. I believe it was being murdered on a mountain. So were you ever shown. I mean, we. We talked earlier about. There are so many stories about two timelines and we're in an inflection point where we can choose as a species. We can go down a dark path of evil, or we can go down the light path of enlightenment. And we're at the point. Where are we headed?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I think we're heading to the light.
AJ (Interviewer)
I hope you're right. But were you ever shown.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
What?
AJ (Interviewer)
Were you ever showing the other side?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
Could you tell us?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, yeah, I saw the first four hours when I was gone. Remember the four hours and I started to hit on this earlier.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yep.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They showed me Hathor's temple. They showed me the pyramids. They showed me Egypt as a whole. The Sphinx was the biggest thing. Three pyramids. I'm looking over the pyramids at the rear end of the Sphinx. That's the position we were in. Then they transport me up over the United States, somewhere up over the Midwest. And we were way up high, and we were looking, and they're talking, they're narrating these things. And all of a sudden, I see the sun swell up in the sky. It got real big to where the whole sky become the sun. And then it flashed and the lights went out. And I knew then that was the reset mechanism. That. And they told me, this is what we're in for.
AJ (Interviewer)
This is. Is this a solar flare, or is this something worse?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Supernova.
AJ (Interviewer)
Oh, no. That's the end of everything, then.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
So that's not the lights going out. That's everything out.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right.
AJ (Interviewer)
And.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And that's how the tektites got here. Scientists will try to say, oh, that can't be a supernova. Well, yeah, it can. It's happened before, and we know it has, because I've studied with Dr. Povenmyer, who was the world's expert on tektites.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah, he was.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And how did they get made? It come through a supernova. It didn't come from a solar flare. It come from a supernova. He told me that. And we know that. And that it can happen again. So the way they explained it was. We had two timelines. We had a choice. They said that there were people in power scripting the Book of Revelations to bring about the end of the world. They want to do this. These religious nuts, I guess you would call it, people that are. I don't know why they'd want to
AJ (Interviewer)
do that, I think as a shadow government. And that that's why they're building bunkers. And all of that is because they're trying to engineer the end of the world.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. And that's what she told me. That's what the beings told me that they were trying to bring about the end of the world and if we'd go that route, it would end up in Armageddon. And like the Bible says, Jesus comes back and saves the world. Right? That's what I was talking about with Sean Ryan was that timeline, but the army other timeline they said was that the reset button didn't have to happen if we made the choice to seek the light and remove the darkness from our and that they were going to help.
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Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And that's by waking us up.
AJ (Interviewer)
And does that lead us into the 2026 event?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
2026 into a time of awakening Peace, not war.
AJ (Interviewer)
And you have been called. I know you don't like the word prophet, so let's just call it a prediction. What was the prediction that the lady made?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, what she told me was it was a riddle in a way she said, when the red star of Regulus. Now, keep in mind, I don't know anything about astronomy. I don't know what Regulus is. She just put these numbered words out. She said, when the red star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx. And she showed it to me. It looked like a little red ball. Now, Regulus is blue.
AJ (Interviewer)
Is blue.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
But she said it would appear red on the horizon just before dawn. When that happens at that point would mark a shift into a new knowledge, an awakening of the people. Mean that you're going to flip a switch and we all sudden know that day. I think it's just the beginning of a new era, a new knowledge. And maybe that's the revealing of this, the truth of consciousness.
AJ (Interviewer)
And this will be the Sphinx gazing at Regulus.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
Do you know what constellation Regulus is in?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's in Leo.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's in Leo.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Isn't that crazy?
AJ (Interviewer)
It is.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Why does the. Why does the Sphinx Space Force have on their badge a triangle.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
With a sphinx looking up at a star.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's funny that you mentioned that. If you look at a lot of the logos, whether it's NRO or all these, there's all this Egyptian iconography on them. It makes me think they know something we don't know.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Oh, they do.
AJ (Interviewer)
They do.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They do. I can tell you they do.
AJ (Interviewer)
What do they know and why won't they tell us?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I wish I could tell you something I do know. Okay. But let's just say without me getting in really serious trouble.
AJ (Interviewer)
Are you under any NDA?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Any.
AJ (Interviewer)
You're not. So you can speak freely.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I can, but I might cut my toes off or cut myself off from a stream of information.
AJ (Interviewer)
As the legal counsel, I would advise you to be careful here.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, that's what I'm doing. But I do know that they've documented things over the last several hundred years.
AJ (Interviewer)
Several hundred years?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Ever since they started keeping records in the US and abroad. Over hundreds of years. Thousands of years. Two thousand or more. The specific thing I'm speaking about.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, we can see orbs in paintings that are hundreds of years old. Yeah.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And it's like the Gelder painting of Jesus being baptized by John the Baptist.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
There's a cloud up there, and it looks like a flying saucer with laser beams.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yes, it does.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
How did they know to draw laser beams in the 1300s?
AJ (Interviewer)
Right, exactly right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They have a flashlight. Right. So, yeah, there's a whole lot of knowledge we don't. It's hidden out.
AJ (Interviewer)
Do you think disclosure is happening now
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
we're in post disclosure.
AJ (Interviewer)
You think it's just, it's already happened, this happened.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's happening one person at a time.
AJ (Interviewer)
Because I'm very suspicious of what we're being told, right? Because I don't know. I don't know what's true and what's not true. So I don't know if this is planned disclosure, and if it is, I don't like that. I don't.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, there's planning it, they're definitely planning it, and they've turned up the notch 100%. Right? Partly because when the drone thing happened and they weren't drones, they were not drones at all. And we know that they weren't drones. They know that they weren't drones. They were orbs. Right? It's the very thing I predicted. I didn't predict it, I just told what I was told, that when Iran and Israel go to exchange of missiles, then the orbs would start appearing out of the sea, out of the land, out of the sky. And they were firing at one other in November. And what happened? November, December, Orbs appeared everywhere. So the government freaked out and they started sending their own drones up, big ones, and leave them for days hanging around. All that was done to confuse the people.
AJ (Interviewer)
So you're a pilot? Yeah, I've been shown from another pilot a notam report that showed in advance all these areas where drones would be. But the government never told us that. They never said, relax, we got it, it's us. They kept us confused and frightened. What would be the purpose of that? Why frighten the population?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I'll tell you why. Because I was sitting in a restaurant with some people from the Pentagon and some Congress and others in the Capitol grill in Washington D.C. this past summer. And after that happened with the. It was in this year. The thing happened in November, right? December. But this past summer.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yep.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Or spring. It was not too far after that. We were meeting and they wanted to know my opinion about this. I said, I told you, you start shooting missiles with Iran, you're going to get. You're going to get it. And they're like, oh my God, this is. This is catastrophic disclosure. So that term was coined with me sitting at a meeting with these people back this year. So they don't want that to happen. They don't want to lose control of the people. They're afraid if they push the button too far, it's going to come down here and wake us all up and take over. They worry what's going to happen and
AJ (Interviewer)
then they Lose their power, their control.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Continuity of government.
AJ (Interviewer)
Continuity, government. So this all points back to the DOD and the Pentagon.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
That's exactly what's going on. So they backed off of Iran. They quit shooting at one another. The whole thing settled down. But it didn't stop. The minute we put F35s in Poland.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yep.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They started shutting down airports over there. The orbs did not Drones, the orbs did. Their orbs.
AJ (Interviewer)
If there were a nuclear. Nuclear war, do you think these orbs stop it? They would stop it. Yeah. Because we know that they have shut down nuclear facilities.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They told them, you keep pushing these buttons, we're gonna, we're gonna expose you, we're gonna stop it. And that's. They keep warning them that.
AJ (Interviewer)
Are the orbs themselves craft or are they beings?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Both. They're both because they're, they're. I say both because I have video of or beings coming out of orbs. I'll show you one today where this orb approaches myself and two or three ladies, one very sick with cancer. It approaches right up to us and flashes and out steps a seven foot tall, glowing white figure. These orbs, these smaller orbs are beings. When they flash, you see a flash that steps. Something just stepped out of it. So I think it's a way they can, can come into our world through that light. But I have also seen many and filmed. I have a whole thing of flying saucers and metal balls like the Bugasphere Tic Tacs.
AJ (Interviewer)
We will put all that footage in this episode because it's all there. It's really undefined, debunkable. When I see people, debunkers try to say that these are airplanes or I, I just don't get it because I've seen the video of it happen in real time where an or will appear and disappear and, and there are places around the world I think like, I think it's the Hasadin lights and the Marfa lights and the Brown Mountain lights. Are these orbs as well in these different places?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, that's what they are.
AJ (Interviewer)
Where did they come from? Where did this start?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They're here, they're around us all the time. We just can't see them. I mean, the beginning, whoever created consciousness, I look at this as a little different than a lot of people do. And I'm slowly creating a hypothesis. We're never going to know until there's a lot of, you know, we may not ever know.
AJ (Interviewer)
I'm wondering where the origin of these beings were.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, a little way a difference in the Way I think there. And this is biblical kind of. What are, what are angels? What are they? The Bible says they're messengers, Right. Does it mean that grandma would wing. Right. Everybody has a misconception about this. These angels are terrifying experience. It tells you. Even Diana told me. Every angelic experience is terrifying because they're creatures, right? Or they're different than us. A lot different. They can come any way they want to come. It's a tough question, but I think that they're part. I think they're fractals of God or consciousness. The word God in consciousness is the same, right? And I have the greatest time right now watching all these scientists that are atheists saying we're studying consciousness. Well, you're studying God, right? So this is a great thing. This is what it's all happening. We're studying consciousness, which is what is God? It's everything.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's everything. Whether you call it God or the universe or what, whatever you call it,
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
it's the sources program this world we live in. And it's all information that was all written in code. It was all pre written. So somebody programmed this thing that we're living in. It's all programmed.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's the simulation.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, it's a simulation.
AJ (Interviewer)
So if our souls are spun out of the source and these orbs are spun out of the source, what's the difference?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's a fractal of God. In other words, how can 7 billion people or 8 billion people pray and have a personal experience with God at the same time?
AJ (Interviewer)
We're all connected.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's all connected. See, these orbs are just a little piece of that. They're a little piece, intelligent piece of God responding to you and me. And that's where Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is within us. And if you had the faith of a mustard seed, you could tell that mountain to move and it would. So what is he telling us there? They didn't like what he was saying so they killed him.
AJ (Interviewer)
Yeah, that's right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
But I think that we're magical beings with humongous power.
AJ (Interviewer)
Do you think we can all do what you do?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, 100%.
AJ (Interviewer)
How do you do what you do? Because you can summon orbs at will.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I don't call it summoning because that is kind of a dark term. You don't summon these things.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It's like ordering God what to do. Right? You come. Well, you summon things. People say it's evil. Well, they're summoning. You may get evil doing that. Right. Stay away from that word. Because it's not about summoning.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's in the Bible as well.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
When you talk summoning, whoever's doing that, these guys doing psionic summoning, well, they don't know what they're getting. They're liable to get trouble, really get some bad stuff, because it's out there too. Too. But I humble myself and I say a little prayer. I have a little prayer that's like this short one. And it's just asking the Holy Spirit, whom I believe is the lady, to come share her presence with us. That's all I do, nothing else.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
In front of a thousand people. I had church contact the desert with Gina, right. He was standing there with me. The most liberal UFO place you could go to. I just had a little church for about two minutes.
AJ (Interviewer)
300 people saw orbs that. It was a thousand saw orbs that. That you prayed for?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. I just asked a little prayer. I said, look, the lady I met, I believe is a divine being. She was made of light. She was floating. She come at me like the wind spirit. Could it be the Holy Spirit? I don't know. But that's where I believe. You know, it's okay. I believe that we all imagine God in our own way.
AJ (Interviewer)
Sure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right. The problem we have in this world is this brother Tom over there, he wants to kill me because I don't think like him. Right. Kill you because you're blaspheming. Well, who knows? You know? How do you know?
AJ (Interviewer)
How do you know?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right. So that's the problem we've got to come to understand is this whole thing is not in our. In our. We can't imagine this. Why try to own it and name it and kill people and have wars over something. You have no idea how complex and how mysterious this whole thing is. Whether you're right or wrong.
AJ (Interviewer)
Right. We're living in two dimensions. The world is much more complicated.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, it's real complex.
AJ (Interviewer)
You said something earlier that kind of frightened me a bit, that this energy is here. It's a positive energy. It's a good energy. It's a protective energy. What's it protecting us from?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
The darks force.
AJ (Interviewer)
Oh boy.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
There is a dark force. Let me say this, that gives a little kind of where I believe this. And I Learned this through Dr. Gilbert, Robert Gilbert. He explained something to me about Egypt. He said, you know what they dig out of the ground in Egypt the most of all? The artifacts they dig up over there? What is it? And that would be pendulum. Pendulums, sure. They get thousands of them out of the soil there. In fact, Dr. Gilbert sold a whole kit of different kinds and he taught people to use them. The Freemasons use them, the Templars and different ones. And the old knowledge, these people use them. What the Egyptians would do is that they knew, and Robert explained this, they knew that the Earth has these grid lines and they're very close together. Some places they're further apart where they're stretched and all. But he's like this. It's like a tic tac toe pattern.
AJ (Interviewer)
Some call them ley lines.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, yeah, you could. But they're very. They're abundant and they're. They're all over, around the whole world. It's just energy travel, energy north and south and they're going back and forth. I keep buttoning this thing.
AJ (Interviewer)
That's fine.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
He said those energy lines, some are negative and some are positive. And there are beings running up and down these energy lines, constantly moving back and forth. And if one of those negative lines happened to run through your house, through a bedroom where your child slept, that child could develop very bad problems, sickness, die from it, from this constant negative energy and these evil spirits that are in that. So they took pendulums and they would find these negative lines, they would transmute them up off the surface to clear the area, only leave the positive lines. Right.
AJ (Interviewer)
So.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And then they put these obelisks out there. Those things are tuned. These stones are tuned by somebody that we can't replicate. Why does there one in Central park from Egypt? Why is there one in Paris? From Egypt, London they go. They went to Egypt and got them and brought them back. Right.
AJ (Interviewer)
They're tuned to sound frequencies.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They transmute this negative energy. And that's why all these cities are so big. And all the biggest cities have them because. And the pyramids were part of that. They were. I think they were tone generators, peaking this frequency to transmute the darkness.
AJ (Interviewer)
It's been proven that if you send the right frequencies toward the Great Pyramid, it will amplify it and turn into energy amplifier. Yeah.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So I think the water underneath them and the salt that they find in them was creating this frequency pinging constantly.
AJ (Interviewer)
Totally agree. I hate to plug my episode, but we do have an episode about the pyramid as a power plant, as a power generator. And there's evidence of it, of chemical reactions and hydrogen, and it's all based around sound and music.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
There's a belief that the pyramids were defaced by the Europeans. You know, they were there before Jesus, five, 600 years.
AJ (Interviewer)
Sure.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
The Greeks were But I've heard through Robert that the pyramids used to have musical notes all over them and that somebody stripped that all off to.
AJ (Interviewer)
I haven't heard that.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I had heard that before.
AJ (Interviewer)
So if there's the negative energy lines, is there also a negative energy source? Like we have our source?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, everything is. Yeah, the whole. The Earth is a die hold. The sun shining on the Earth creates the energy and you can see it in the aurora. That's all electricity. So it's electrical machine and we're all part of that electrical energy from the sun. And. Yeah, so this negative energy is like a battery. Everything works on a positive and a negative pole. You have. Same way on Earth, you have positive and negative poles and you have a battery that cranks a car. Yin and yang, it's all the same.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay, that makes sense to me.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Good and evil, light and dark.
AJ (Interviewer)
What happens when we die, Chris?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think that we. You know, in my Christian world, they preach about. And I'm still Christian. Right. I love. I love. I was born raised on Jesus and always will.
AJ (Interviewer)
I don't think anything you said today contradicts it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right.
AJ (Interviewer)
Religion.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
But I believe a little differently that I don't think that we know enough to demand that the. That when you die you go to heaven. It's out somewhere way away. I think it's right here around us and I think we can come back here.
AJ (Interviewer)
When people ask, like I did, what do you think happens when we die? I'm asking out of fear. Are you afraid?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
No, I'm not afraid at all. I'm not afraid. And I think that we're friends now and we'll be friends forever. This life and the next. So it works. I believe there's a possibility in reincarnation as possible.
AJ (Interviewer)
I agree with that. I want us to take one more break. If you wouldn't mind coming back for one last segment.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I'd love to.
AJ (Interviewer)
All right, let's.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I'm having fun.
AJ (Interviewer)
Having fun. When we come back, I'd like to talk about remote viewing, the Memorial Institute, some of that. Okay, back in a sec. Tell me about the dragon. Tim Taylor, the most elusive man in the. In intel, in ufology. How did you meet him? What's your relationship with him?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Tim is that most elusive. He's a ghost, right? I like to say that about him. And he's a. He is a. He is a ghost because of his work.
AJ (Interviewer)
What specifically does he.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Pretty much in charge of all the launches on the launch.
AJ (Interviewer)
So is NASA.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, NASA, SpaceX, all of them. You know, NASA runs the launch facility, but they all use that, they rent it.
AJ (Interviewer)
And I think it's public knowledge that he consults with Elon Musk. So he's involved.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
So imagine, let's just say from what I know that the National Reconnaissance Office does. They have eyes on. They have the satellites, they own all the observation, reconnaissance, right? And so if you took mission control and Tim being the dragon, he's the head, he's the head of that, he's in charge, right? So he has mission control. Let's just say there's a square building and it looks like a mobile home that's put together. A big double quadruple wide mobile home, little metal tin on the outside. But there's one hallway in the middle and it's identical on the left to the right and there's just a pretty long hallway. The building's not so small, but on the right when you walk down the hall, you get past the offices and then there's this big glass wall. And you look over in the glass wall, wall and it's kind of depressed in there and there are all these consoles, people standing there and they're running the launch. And the television screen on the left is exactly the same, but it's US Air Force people. So over there you got fatigues on, camouflage and they're in there running a launch while the NASA people on the right, well, at the end of the hall is where the general is and where Tim's little office is. He goes in after that launch goes up, he goes in there and he has these television screens only for him to see, right? And he's communicating with the team that's flying. An old friend, he died here a couple years ago. His name, Peter Chobon. Peter in Araga, from Houston. I write about him in my book. He's there. I love Peter, he's an old Texan. But Peter run the WB57 program out of Houston, which is these big high flying, almost like a U2 spy plane thing, but it's bigger and it lorders around up there at 50,000ft. So these ground based cameras are looking at the rocket. When it takes off, it starts getting blurry up that high. This plane just intercepts it and follows it right on up and keeps it in its cameras until it gets to about 100,000ft. And that's when this other plane called F104 Starfighter, equipped with rockets on it and they wear spacesuits in that thing, they fly way up there and they keep tailing the rockets. So they're watching it, every detail. There's like seven cameras on that plane following it. Once it gets past its range, it goes into the satellites. Right. So what are they looking for? Two or three things. Big thing is a mechanical failure. If something goes wrong, they got know how to fix it. But why is the dragon in that one office?
AJ (Interviewer)
Right.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Because often these, these UFOs, flying saucers, orbs will approach these rockets in space and investigate. And I have seen videos of them shooting them out of the sky or disabling them. Yeah. And I'm like why'd they do that? Did they have weapons on that thing? He said well, there was a mock nuclear. Nuclear warhead on there. I've actually wasn't active. It wasn't. It wasn't. But they still wouldn't accept it. You can saw it.
AJ (Interviewer)
You can find that illustration online. I think it, it talks about a craft flying around a warhead, beaming light at it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I saw that video.
AJ (Interviewer)
Until it's disabled.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I watched it. That's the one. I asked him why did they do that? Was there a weapon on that thing? I mean that told me all I needed to know because they're protecting. They don't want us up there blowing up warheads and stuff. They don't want weapons in space.
AJ (Interviewer)
What percentage of astronauts have seen all of them? Right?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
All of them. Hal told my wife that one night I'll never forget before he died. He would start talking more things he would never tell us. He always said don't ask me that. The men in black will come get me. I'm like, who's the men in black, Hal? He says a bunch of CIA guys riding around in black trucks.
AJ (Interviewer)
They all work for Tim Taylor. Yeah.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
What do you think happened? Do you think we landed on the moon?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I want to say I tell you how confusing they are. They put out disinformation big time. They don't necessarily tell you the truth but they will tell you some things if you're paying attention. But a lot of things they'll tell you be confused, confusing.
AJ (Interviewer)
Limited hangout.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. Yeah. Tim and Tim told me and I got how now Hal's my best friend and he, he was the, he had the David E. Lord award for 50 years of occultation. Grazing. That's the moon. He wrote books on the moon and he was the guy that, that supposedly mapped it were Apollo landed on the moon. Right. So he's telling me all about this and that there are buildings up there that we didn't build. How would tell me this stuff?
AJ (Interviewer)
He said there's structures up there.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
He said, there are old, ancient structures, and we didn't build them.
AJ (Interviewer)
So do you think that we landed men on the moon in 1969?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, I hear that. And then Tim tells me that, what do you think of the moon? I'm like, it's not that. He's telling me. He's planting these ideas in my head. Sure. What do you think of the moon? I don't know. I've been obsessed with it all my life. You know, I wrote about it in the book. I was a little boy. I was always staring at it. He said, you think it's real?
AJ (Interviewer)
You think the moon is real?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
That's what he told me. He said, you think it's real? I said, well, I think so. He said, isn't that funny? And he gave the numbers, like, 400 million miles. And it's in the exact spot, and it never changes its face. And it's locked in the. How it got there. He said, maybe it was towed in position.
AJ (Interviewer)
There are ancient native American legends about the sky without the moon. And when it arrived and the earth was covered in mist, and when the moon arrived, that's when the tides and the oceans formed.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I had no idea. Yeah. Wow. That's what. That's the kind of things that they do, these intel people. They tell you all kinds of things. So I have to try to sift through the data and make my own thoughts, but insinuated that it may have been pulled here.
AJ (Interviewer)
A moon that large and that close has never been found on any planet ever. And we've found thousands of them. We are the only one with this thing.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
If I had to guess, I would say we went to the moon, saw some things that maybe the government didn't want us to see, and that's why we didn't go back for a while. And maybe.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think that's probably the truth about it, you know, that we did go there, and they were told not to come back.
AJ (Interviewer)
They were told not to come back, most likely. So that leads me to remote viewing a little bit, because Project Stargate. Right. So Joe McMonagle is a friend of yours? Project stargate.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Good friend of mine, yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
Ingo Swann was part of that project. He saw aliens on the moon and said, we're not welcome there, and he saw the structures and all of that. And earlier you mentioned that you had a vision or dream about bigfoot on Mars, which sounds funny, but Joe, remote viewed without knowing what he was looking. He was given coordinates, and he said he saw large Beings on Mars. And he finally opens up the card and it says, it's Mars. One million years ago, you said you can remote view or you've trained in it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. In fact, I'm on the History Channel of being at Monroe Institute, and I'm kind of like an ambassador for them, and I promote them. I love them. My daughter, my son is a trainer for them.
AJ (Interviewer)
We're big fans of them here.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, yeah. And so I'm a huge supporter of them. They've helped me out a whole lot. But remote viewing, all of us have that capacity. Everybody. Some people, it comes easy. Some people have it all the time and don't know what's happening, happening. We all have these moments where, say you call. You think, I'm going to call my wife? Pick up the phone and you start dialing. And suddenly your wife thinks about AJ and then the phone rings.
AJ (Interviewer)
Always, we all have it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Right. That's. That is the. That tells you one thing, that when your wife thought of you, you thought of her. Her thoughts fly through space, and you're able to pick up on that. So that's what consciousness is about. It's floating. It's an Internet around us, and our brains is the receiver to it. I think our information is stored throughout our whole body, even in our organs. But that's the computer, that's the CPU that's been shut off and doesn't know its ability.
AJ (Interviewer)
What did you see when you were remote viewed?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
All kinds of things. We're given tasks to do. You know, I've taken training on this stuff. I've been to classes with it, and it's according to what the task was, you know, whatever we're working on. But I've been doing this. They first came to me, let's just say one of the things that they know that NASA told me a long time ago that people who interact with these orbs become very psychic. So that's natural part of it. All of humanity starts experiencing this. They become very psychic. And that's kind of alarming to the people in power. They don't want us all becoming psychic.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, imagine if all of us could communicate with or absorbed or remote view,
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
and we all can.
AJ (Interviewer)
And maybe that's the awakening that you've been told about by the lady.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think that's it, 100%. I believe disclosure is happening. And once these people, one at the time, begin to realize, oh, my God, it's real, then you become. You start awakening and you can develop these powers. And it's happening with Dr. Diane Hennessy, Powell and Dalia and Lidu, which are very close friends of mine. I've worked with them. We do a lot of work together. And all these wonderful kids with Kai Dickens. Kai and I were on the World Forum just during Christmas. Right. She told me I ordered one thing for Christmas, and that was your book. That was pretty cool. Right, But.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, let me put you on the spot then. What? Because you've. You've said this before. What's the date? What's the date when Regulus turns red?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I don't know that, and I'll tell you why.
AJ (Interviewer)
Okay.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I was given this riddle by the lady.
AJ (Interviewer)
You've been misquoted.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, I'm misquoted all the time. I've got people on the Internet saying, chris says this or Chris says that. I've never said that. Chris says that. This Sphinx is going to open up as Paul. Right. I never said that. Edgar Casey said that. Right. It's all over the Internet. But what you say a lot of
AJ (Interviewer)
things that Edgar Cayce said about all the records and stuff. Yeah. Similarities.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, it's all part of this progression. And studying. I study everybody. I'm on admission myself.
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But what I do know is when I when the lady told me about this many years ago about the, the regulus and, and this, the star, I immediately called a literary agent friend of mine, Lisa Hagan. Lisa's a very close friend, lives in Virginia, book publisher. And I told her we were working on a manuscript, Lisa and I, and we were talking all the time. So I told her about this and she said, oh my, I know a lot of people that does astrology. They were right. They write books, you know. I said, well, find out if this is going to happen, if it's really real. I don't know if it's going to happen. It was just a riddle she gave me. So she calls Kurt Nielsen from he's part of the Edgar Cayce Research center and different ones and they all came back to me way back then. September of 2026, this is going to take place. So for seven to eight years that's all I, I preached about. You can look at many podcasts that are older ones and I'm always saying September 2026, when I wrote the book, I thought I better fact check this. And so I called Lisa back and I said lisa, remember this? Tell me, am I correct? Wasn't it September? She said, oh, I think we made a mistake there. I think they believe and now it's going to be an Easter April. I thought, well that makes sense because the lady always comes on Easter. So that's what I went with. But I never really felt because for eight or nine years that's all I said was in September. I was never sold on it other than the lady's always associated with Easter or has been. That's when she comes. But now I see that these astrologers are still unsure of the when this alignment will happen. Some are saying October.
AJ (Interviewer)
October 7th. Yeah, October 7th, 2026 at 5:30am it will line up with the Sphinx. And if the atmospheric conditions are correct, that blue star is going to turn red.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well that's, that's the date.
AJ (Interviewer)
This is scientific. If, if, if it's a, like have a harvest moon or that red dust from the Sahara, if that happens, that blue star is turning red that day, that's what date?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
October.
AJ (Interviewer)
October 7th, 2026.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Okay. Because I'm planning to go in the fall to Egypt. I wasn't really set on Easter. And so, you know, even though I wrote it in the book, still, if you read what I wrote, it was just that I became come to believe.
AJ (Interviewer)
True.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I was never really sure when that alignment. And I'm totally dependent on the experts to tell me when that'll be. And now I'm here in October. 7th. Right. So that's probably when I'll be in Egypt.
AJ (Interviewer)
And I think it's important for everybody to know that when and if that happens, we're not going to see magical visions in the sky. It could be a very subtle just shift.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. I think it's going to be something that comes and goes, but we'll all realize in the next five years. Boy, that dude really, 12 years ago made this prediction that the orbs would appear when Israel and Egypt and all that. Well, it all happened. I've been seeing it 12 years. Right. And now I think it's just going to mark a change, a new. I think we're going to learn some things between now and then that's going to shock us all. I think disclosure is going to come more real. The government's going to reveal more things. I have a little birdie telling me that Egypt is about to release something this year that's going to rewrite history.
AJ (Interviewer)
Is that right?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. I've been asked to be a part of it.
AJ (Interviewer)
Can you share any of that?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I can't.
AJ (Interviewer)
Can you tell me where in Egypt?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Just know it's through the Egyptian government, through the Antiquities Authority.
AJ (Interviewer)
I don't trust those guys.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I don't either. But there are very valid scientists in the United States that are a part of it.
AJ (Interviewer)
There are, and there's a lot happening in the Valley of the Kings right now. They just discovered a new. A new pharaoh there.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
It could be.
AJ (Interviewer)
Be something out of that. Dick.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I think it's more about what's under the ground, man.
AJ (Interviewer)
I hope we're talking about the hall of Records.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I don't know. They didn't tell me. They just told me they want me in Egypt this year and that they were going to reveal something that's going to rewrite history.
AJ (Interviewer)
There's a. There's a story that. That I tell on the show about Dorothy Edie. I don't know if that rings a bell.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Dorothy who?
AJ (Interviewer)
Dorothy Edie.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Edie. I don't know her.
AJ (Interviewer)
She's born in England, early 1900s. And since she's a child, she's always drawn to ancient Egypt and her parents don't know why. And they take her to the British Museum one day, she's four or five years old and she goes to the mummy of the pharaoh that might have been Ramses the Great. And she's crying and she says, that's who. I know him. They give her a book about ancient Egypt. As a child, she's able to pick up hieroglyphics, she speaks the language. She eventually goes to Egypt and she knows her way around all the temples. She believes that she's reincarnated from an ancient Egyptian priestess called Amseti. And she says that underneath the Sphinx are these chambers and there's knowledge down there. And this is someone who worked. Dorothy worked with antiquities for years. They trusted her. So you've got scientific evidence with a little bit of the spiritualism of reincarnation. You've got Edgar Cayce's predictions, you've got the people that you know. We've got LiDAR, GPR showing all these cavities. There's something down there, definitely.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And they're going to tell about it
AJ (Interviewer)
this year if it changes everything.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah. So I think that'll be part of this new knowledge that's going to happen. It's going to rewrite. It's going to rewrite an old way. There's a new way, a new knowledge. I think you're going to see fusion, energy, all that come Helium 3, all that. Imagine a world tomorrow to where Elon doesn't need rockets anymore, but there are
AJ (Interviewer)
going to be forces that are going to fight that every step of the way.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Are. They still are.
AJ (Interviewer)
And they still are.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
They just killed the fusion expert from mit, right? They just killed him.
AJ (Interviewer)
They just killed them.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
And they're planning to roll fusion out. That means, you know what that means by 80% of everything you buy is energy costs. That's right, energy.
AJ (Interviewer)
So what happens? Energy is free.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Then we become very wealthy and everything gets very cheap. Right. Living becomes a lot different.
AJ (Interviewer)
And those who that power structure, it kind of goes away.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Well, that's part of the new knowledge. The lady said she was going to wake the people up and reveal exposed to darkness. And look at all of what's being exposed to right now all around the world. This things that people are horrified over seeing and you know, dark politics and child trafficking. Whoever thought into this year, in 2025 we'd be trafficking children or people and the US is the biggest trafficker, it seems.
AJ (Interviewer)
It seems so I think everybody can sense that something's happening and can sense that there's an ongoing war between good and evil.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah, I think the good is going to prevail and all the evil is going to be exposed. That's my prediction. That's going to happen. I don't think we're going down the road of Armageddon. I think we're going up to a new time of happiness. And after all these dark individuals are exposed and kicking and screaming and it's
AJ (Interviewer)
happening, I'm going to choose to believe you. Chris, thank you so much for coming today.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Thank you.
AJ (Interviewer)
Name of your book is UFO of God. UFO of God. And I would say it's an excellent book, even if you're not into UFOs or religion. It's a fantastic story. It's a great, great book.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Thank you for that. It's on Amazon and most other outlets. I self published it. But the crazy thing is that it's been in the top three to five in its categories for three years now.
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, let's get it up to number one. And when's your next book coming out?
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Hopefully by summertime.
AJ (Interviewer)
Now, for fans of the wildfiles, you know, the saying is there's always a book. Something to keep in mind, folks, is that Chris didn't monetize his story for 15 years.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
15 years, right. So I never wrote about it until 2022. This started in 22007. And all the research I've done, I have spent. I have spent more time out filming the sky than any three people you can come up with. Nobody probably have spent the amount of time I have out observing the sky. And I've done it all on my dime. And I get people saying, oh, you got the horrible camera. You should do this. You should. Well, why don't you go out and do the filming?
AJ (Interviewer)
Well, let's support his work. Gang, grab that book and I'll keep everybody posted with what you're doing and how we can support your work. It's very important. I do believe we're in a battle with darkness. And your message is valuable and important and it's a weapon for good and we all need to wield it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
I appreciate that, AJ and if things go right in the next 30 or 45 days, we're going to step it up and start an expedition out Europe way and hope to have you and Gino to come along with us at times. If you want, we'll be a part of it. We're gonna film the sky every night and get more serious about it.
AJ (Interviewer)
We'll be a part of it.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Yeah.
AJ (Interviewer)
All right, Chris, thanks again.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Thank you and God bless.
Podcast Host/Commentator
So we just spent three hours with Chris Bledstone and I need to sit
AJ (Interviewer)
with this a minute.
Podcast Host/Commentator
Here's what we know. The January 8, 2007 incident at Cape Fear river is documented. Chris, his 17 year old son and three adult co workers were all present and all of them reported what they saw. MUFON investigated, though Chris says the investigation
AJ (Interviewer)
became a hit job.
Podcast Host/Commentator
And that's probably true. What's harder to dismiss is who came next. Harold Povenmire, a NASA engineer who worked on Project Apollo and spent 59 years at the agency. He investigated Chris for over a decade.
AJ (Interviewer)
Decade.
Podcast Host/Commentator
And couldn't debunk him. Pavenmayer died in 2019 still believing. Jim Semevan, a 25 year veteran of the CIA's Clandestine Service, wrote the foreword to Chris's book. Dr. Hal Puthoff from SRI, the guy who ran the CIA's remote viewing program. He's also studied the case. These aren't fringe characters. These are real people. As for the big claims, Chris says his Crohn's disease was cured after the encounter and that he has documented documentation from UNC Chapel Hill showing no markers remain.
Chris Bledsoe (UFO Experiencer)
Why?
Podcast Host/Commentator
Couldn't find independent medical verification of that? It's his word and his records. But here's where it gets interesting. Chris claims orbs interact with nuclear sites. Well, that's actually documented elsewhere. There's the 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base incident where Captain Robert Salas reported a glowing red object hovering over the facility right before 10 Minuteman nuclear missiles went offline. That's been testified under oath before Congress. UFO activity around nuclear facilities isn't fringe conspiracy. It's in Pentagon records. Now here's what I'm still chewing on. The lady, this feminine being of light that appears to Chris on Easter, that he connects to Hathor, to Fatima, to divine feminine traditions across cultures. And the 2026 prophecy. When the star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx, a new knowledge will come into the world. Now, the astronomy nerds have run the numbers and nobody agrees on the exact date. Some say Easter, some say August, but it's probably going to be October 7th. Chris says he's been saying this since 2012, long before anyone was calculating alignments. So my take is that Chris Bledsoe is either sitting on experiences that bridge the gap between UFOs spirituality and human consciousness in ways we don't have language for yet, or he's the most convincing experiencer in modern history with an unusual talent for attracting high level interest. What I can't explain away is the caliber of people who investigated him and walked away. Believers. NASA engineers, CIA officers, Pentagon officials. Something about this case keeps pulling serious people in and that's what keeps me thinking about it. Chris's book is UFO of God, available on Amazon. He self published it and he's been in the top five in its category for three years. If you want to go deeper on his story, that's where to start. Until next time, be safe, be kind, know that you are appreciated.
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Date: February 19, 2026
Host: AJ
Guest: Chris Bledsoe
This episode dives deep into one of the most unusual contemporary UFO cases: The story of Chris Bledsoe, a North Carolina businessman whose 2007 experience along the Cape Fear river not only included classic UFO phenomena—missing time, mysterious orbs, and strange entities—but also led to high-level government, NASA, and Vatican interest. The conversation explores Chris’s encounters, resulting healings, the role of the “Lady” (a divine feminine presence), and how his case blurs the lines between UFOlogy, spirituality, and human consciousness. The discussion also reveals the darker costs Chris paid in his personal life and the extraordinary government investigation and intrigue that followed.
"I surrendered. I don’t mean you any harm. And it said, ‘You don’t understand. We’re here to help you, not hurt you.’”
—Chris Bledsoe, recounting a creature encounter (37:13)
“She said: You’re not going to quit. This is your burden. You have to bear. If you continue, I promise you I’ll be with you... and let you share us with others.”
—Chris Bledsoe reflecting on the Lady’s message (63:24)
"Orbs interact with nuclear sites. Well, that’s actually documented… UFO activity around nuclear facilities isn’t fringe conspiracy. It’s in Pentagon records."
—AJ (143:53)
“When the red star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx... at that point would mark a shift into a new knowledge, an awakening of the people.”
—Chris Bledsoe (97:59)
Encounter with Creature
“I surrender… And it said, ‘You don’t understand, we’re here to help you, not hurt you.’”
(Chris Bledsoe, 37:13)
Healing from Crohn’s
“It’s gone. I went to Chapel Hill … there are no markers.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 69:06)
Divine Feminine Encounter
“This is your burden. You have to bear. If you continue… I promise you I’ll be with you.”
(The Lady, recounted by Chris, 63:24)
On Disclosure
“We’re in post-disclosure. It’s happening one person at a time.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 100:50)
Prophecy of 2026
“When the red star Regulus aligns in the gaze of the Sphinx... that’ll mark a shift into a new knowledge.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 97:59)
On the Nature of Orbs
“They’re both craft and beings... I have video of beings coming out of orbs.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 104:31)
On Awakening
“I believe disclosure is happening. And once these people, one at a time, begin to realize, 'oh my God, it’s real,' then you start awakening and develop these powers.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 128:52)
On Government Secrecy and Disclosure
“They don’t want to lose control... they’re afraid if they push the button too far, it’s going to come down and wake us all up.”
(Chris Bledsoe, 103:42)
| Timestamp | Segment | |---------------|--------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:18 | Chris’s business, illness, and background | | 11:22 | First sighting of orbs at Cape Fear river | | 13:46 | Sense of being watched—conscious orb interaction | | 15:28 | Missing time, memory blackout | | 18:57 | Chris Jr.'s sighting of red-eyed creatures | | 22:53 | Sighting of Tic Tac craft, panic among witnesses | | 29:58 | Chris Jr.'s trauma and aftermath | | 47:21 | Discussion of biblical and ancient references to “clouds” | | 61:21 | “The Lady” visits Chris—message of perseverance | | 69:06 | Healing from Crohn’s disease | | 80:47 | Initial government (CIA/NASA) involvement begins | | 86:39 | Jim Semivan (CIA) becomes involved | | 90:02 | Scope and seniority of government interest | | 97:59 | The prophecy of Regulus and the Sphinx | | 104:31 | Orbs as beings/craft—evidence and demonstration | | 126:26 | Remote viewing and psychic effects from orb exposure | | 134:32 | October 7, 2026—Regulus alignment prediction | | 136:06 | Tease of upcoming revelations from Egypt/Antiquities | | 139:22 | “The lady said … expose the darkness” | | 142:21 | Plans for European expedition and sky-filming |
In this extraordinary conversation, Chris Bledsoe offers a compelling, deeply personal account of UFO contact, government intrigue, and supernatural phenomena blending seamlessly with spiritual awakening. What stands out is not just the strangeness of his experiences, but the caliber of scientists, intelligence officers, and spiritual scholars drawn to investigate his claims. Chris frames his encounters as part of a larger struggle between light and darkness, belief and skepticism, with humanity standing at a crossroads leading up to 2026. The episode masterfully bridges UFOlogy and spirituality, rooting cosmic mysteries in both personal transformation and ancient traditions.
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