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Happy new year, lizards! We're back and what a winding road of recording this episode twice, having the audio bork differently two times, and then going with the original recording because it was slightly less bad this has been. All worth it for the story of Candy Jones, a.k.a. Arlene Grant, model possible MK Ultra victim. Buckle up for hypnosis, secret missions, possible Winter Soldiering, and fry bits.Also, a lengthy ode to Alias, a recommendation for Only Murders in the Building, and ~tales of pregnancy~.Sources:Wikipedia article on Candy Jones: https://bit.ly/3r9z0kgScience Digest, "Hypnosis Comes of Age": https://bit.ly/3GqqoMzDonald Bain, "The Control of Candy Jones" (audiobook): https://adbl.co/3tvxoUVOZY, "Was this Blond Bombshell the CIA's Secret Weapon?": https://bit.ly/3fjG7kAUnrevealed Files, "Candy Jones: A Secret Agent of the CIA Mind-Control Program": https://bit.ly/3KbsiD6*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

The truth is out there and it is festive, y'all. It's Katy's turn and she has brought you some UFOs near Stonehenge that appear on Christmas morning, 1964 (and then a bunch of other times) - the story of the Warminster Thing! Is it just military drills from their nearby training area? Or is that what they WANT you to think?We check in with our PAs. MM is not ready to reenter society. Katy's been watching a lot of Desus & Mero. What do you think invisible fingers of sound look like? Everyone needs to watch Edge of Tomorrow. Yes, you. Happy holidays!Things Mentioned:The Loch Ness Monster: https://youtu.be/6aRrLKurmE8Apollo's Chariot: https://youtu.be/k11vWNqmICYEveryone needs to watch Edge of Tomorrow: https://bit.ly/3pnWmmDProject Hail Mary: https://bit.ly/3EiAJbySources:Mental Floss, "When the Warminster 'Thing' Terrorized a Small English Town": https://bit.ly/3J7HMY6Medium, "Mystery Box: The Warminster ‘Thing’": https://bit.ly/3mtIEwJ*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

MM has a doozy for you this week, lizards - buckle up for the story of Victim F, a.k.a. the Gone Girl kidnapping, a.k.a. the abduction of Denise Huskins and the absolutely awful way she and her boyfriend were treated by police.Hm. Where have we heard THAT before?Stay tuned for the end of the episode where we have an update on the David Stone Halloween Mystery! (No, it's not solved.) (Still cool, though.)PA Moxie is living her best life in Christmas packaging. Reese's trees have the best chocolate to peanut butter ratio, don't @ us. How many days would you last off the grid? Katy got her steps in this episode by storming around in rage. DO A LITTLE INVESTIGASCH! GOD!Sources:Victim F: From Crime Victims to Suspects to Survivors: https://bit.ly/3pYsdcC SFGate, "Bay Area 'Gone Girl' Denise Huskins believes some of her kidnappers got away": https://bit.ly/3s8J0MBABC News, "Survivors of Vallejo 'Gone Girl' case respond after police apologize for calling them liars": https://abc7ne.ws/3EYPPUENew York Post: "Real ‘Gone Girl’ accused of staging her abduction is vindicated at last": https://bit.ly/3q0zfNZSan Francisco Chronicle, "Review: Couple traumatized by crime set the record straight on Vallejo kidnapping": https://bit.ly/3dRcXZv Oxygen, "California Woman, Once Called The Real Life 'Gone Girl,' Receives Apology From Police": https://oxygen.tv/30tJ1zoPeople, "Terror & Betrayal: They Were Attacked, She Was Abducted - and Police Said It Was All Lies": https://bit.ly/3maJ5vsWIRED, "'Gone Girl' Suspect Confesses to Reporter—As FBI Listens In": https://bit.ly/33CBeAJNBC Bay Area, "Matthew Muller, Vallejo Kidnap Suspect, ‘Bipolar' and ‘Extremely' Smart, Friend and Lawyer Say": https://bit.ly/3GLUvxFABC News, "What the FBI Found In 'Gone Girl' Kidnapping Suspect Matthew Muller's Storage Locker": https://abcn.ws/3pX8VEl ABC News, "Inside the 'Gone Girl' Kidnapping: Zip-Ties, Nyquil and More Details From the California Break-In": https://abcn.ws/3ISEZSBABC 11, "Survivors of so-called 'Gone Girl' case reflect on the life-changing experience": https://abc11.tv/33CBKyF*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

How is it December?! Lizards, we recorded this one in a post-Thanksgiving haze, so in addition to the tale of Kaz II, the ghost yacht, get ready for opinions about gravy.Oh, right, we said ghost yacht. Further proof that you don't fuck with the ocean, back in 2007, the crew of the Kaz II disappeared with no explanation, in a way compared to the disappearance of the Mary Celeste's crew back in the late 1800s. We'll take a detour, don't worry.What's your opinion on gravy viscosity? Pre-order MM's biography, "Disheveled But Seaworthy," today. Take a drink whenever we give you a new reason to not go in the ocean ever. Movie corner! Since Katy just got around to seeing Rise of Skywalker, we have a timely Star Wars discussion. Our fingers are ON THE PULSE OF POP CULTURE, you guys. We also chat about Shang Chi and Hereditary.Sources:Kaz II on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3oEha98Mary Celeste on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/3Gtxcc0The Guardian, "Australian coroner ends mystery of 'ghost ship'": https://bit.ly/3dAMU8MMedium, "Behind the Mystery of the ‘Ghost Yacht’": https://bit.ly/3DA1kApThe Paranormal Guide, "Kaz II Mystery": https://bit.ly/3oB2PtL*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Happy December, lizards! This week, MM brings you the winding tale of the "disappearance" of Tyler Hardy - brace yourselves for some twists! Turns! Etc.!Katy breaks MM's brain with a mushroom reference. "Hey, who wants to talk about some missing kids, now?" At what point when you're caught in a lie do you just give up? Also, hey, parents. Don't share pictures of your babies when they're still covered in WOMB BITS. This is a heartfelt tip from us to you. Production assistant Ollie takes a stand. Please lend us your child for one hour.Things mentioned:Sips By tea subscription (take $5 off your first box): https://bit.ly/3plGOi0Zadiko "Zach's Breakfast" tea: https://bit.ly/3dcJV64Sources:Daily Mail article: https://bit.ly/3G7Gn1lBBC One: Reporting Missing, Series 2 Ep 1: https://bbc.in/3GbiLsD (official page); https://bit.ly/3xMJby6 (video)*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

We're back with some spooky tales from the spookiest place on earth... Reddit. Katy and her scratchy voice went to r/letsnotmeet and found a few tales for MM to react to - do we believe they're real? Either way, let's not meet.There's a difference between people and FUCKING PEOPLE, you know what we mean? Also, if they say "stay on the trail," stay on the goddamn trail. Has no one read A Sound of Thunder, jfc. Don't play a drinking game with MM saying "noooope," you'll die. Katy will always assume there's a hillbilly that's going to hunt her. Pro tip from your millennial aunts: ALWAYS LOCK YOUR CAR DOORS. Also: don't be a Mike.Things mentioned:Zadiko tea: zadiko.com Staircases in the woods: https://bit.ly/3l7kzejSources:"I Was Told You Guys Over Here Might Like My Story": https://bit.ly/30T1PIe"I Bet There's a Body in the Trunk": https://bit.ly/3nN1ZKf"It Should Have Been a Beautiful Drive, But It Was a Trap": https://bit.ly/3r6SlEg"The Woman on White's Bridge (with pictures)": https://bit.ly/3r9paAE *******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

This week, MM brings us the tale of the only convicted witch in Virginia, Grace Sherwood, because spooky season is forever.But first, join us for millennial aunt advice corner, in which Katy espouses you should know thyself... and if you're not an entrepreneur. "A boner for land" is not a phrase we'd thought we'd ever say, but here we are. MM annuls our friendship yet again. Our arms are weak and our brains are smooth.(This was recorded before 2021 election results came in for both Virginia and Washington. Laugh at the hope in our voices. :|)Things MentionedToo Many Spirits ghost mug: https://bit.ly/3cpBELUChris Bohjalian, Hour of the Witch: https://bit.ly/3qMKeMRHades video game: https://bit.ly/3nyKUnnSourcesEncyclopedia Virginia, "Sherwood, Grace": https://bit.ly/3wYbucpAtlas Obscura, "The Witch of Pungo Statue": https://bit.ly/3oHtPa3Colonial Ghosts, "Grace Sherwood, the Witch of Pungo": https://bit.ly/3qMKwTX Virginia Museum of History and Culture, "Grace Sherwood, the Witch of Pungo": https://bit.ly/3Fs1FGEGrace Sherwood on Wikipedia: https://bit.ly/30wVJxv*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Last episode was our birthday and this episode is our 50th! Cheers! For our 50th episode, Katy has two Washington-state stories that are spooky (Kell's Irish Pub) and spooky adjacent (the very tragic tale of the murder of Jennifer Bastian and how her ghost is reportedly seen in Point Defiance Park).We are, of course, ready as hell for the Animal Crossing update. We will give you our thoughts, of course. Katy had never really experienced Zak Bagans before researching Kell's and is truly, truly baffled by his whole... [gestures generally] thing. There's an unexpected connection to our Starvation Heights episode (#33)! The gum wall remains gross.SOURCESJennifer Bastian/Point Defiance ParkKing 5, "Man gets 27 years for cold case murder of Tacoma girl Jennifer Bastian": https://bit.ly/3mHXGiXJenny Bastian on the Unsolved Mysteries Wiki: https://bit.ly/3CIM84rOnly in Your State, "One Of The Most Haunted Roads In Washington, Five Mile Drive Has Had A Ghost For 34 Years": https://bit.ly/31tsjjUKell’s Irish PubGhostly Activities, "Kell's Pub, Seattle's Most Haunted Bar": https://bit.ly/3BLhUfPOnly in Your State, "This Haunting Washington Bar Used To Be A Mortuary, And You’ll Want To Visit": https://bit.ly/3k0TtFiSeattle Met, "Exquisite Corpses": https://bit.ly/2ZPTuo0Travel Channel, "Ghost Adventures: Kell's Irish Pub" (including the bit with the gum wall, blerg): https://bit.ly/3q5OMOkGhost Adventures - Zak Bagans interviewing the owner of Kell's: https://bit.ly/3wg8uYp*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

Happy Halloween and happy birthday to our little pod! Thanks for joining us as we've learned what we're doing and getting in on how much fun we're having. Here's to many more! For our Halloween/birthday episode, MM brings us the spooky story of the disappearance of David Stone shortly after Halloween.We both conclude that we should live in caves... possibly with heated floors. Are you an elderly millennial that tortures themselves by browsing Zillow? Join our support group. El Paso, hit us up for all your marketing needs. BOOP, El Paso.SOURCESBillboard Hot 100 Chart for the week of 10/29/88: https://bit.ly/3bms4ZIUnsolved Mysteries Wiki, "David Stone": https://bit.ly/3jNGdDHThe Uproar, "The Disappearance of David Stone": https://bit.ly/3BmEo6DDavid Stone on Find a Grave: https://bit.ly/2ZAKseMThe Prescott Courier, "Questions Remain About Man's Death": https://bit.ly/3mpH6E0Mysterious Universe, "Strange Arcane Clues and the Mysterious Disappearance of David Stone": https://bit.ly/3vW8Wv6*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com

SPOOKY SEASON continues on the Wine Times Mysteries, y'all! This week, Katy covers two more medical mysteries - the Oakville Blobs and the death of Gloria Ramirez, who has been dubbed the Toxic Lady, since several people treating her fainted and got sick. 1994 WAS A STRANGE TIME, OKAY? Contemplate your mortality~ Spooooky~Drinking game this week: every time MM says EW during the Oakville Blobs story, take a conservative sip of your drink. What would you do if weird jello blobs started raining down? Katy's brother should do marketing for Jell-O. When encountering a medical anomaly, make sure to account for the amount of smooth-brained women involved. Pro-tip: DON'T GOOGLE THESE, Y'ALL.Also, Katy got MM into Stardew Valley, so we're branching out from Animal Crossing corner. Be advised if this is a thing for you - because it was relevant to the discussion, Katy didn't cut out her bones snapping at the end of the episode. There are a few knuckle cracks. Bones ASMR ahoy!OAKVILLE BLOBSKXRO, "20 Years Later: The Oakville Blob": https://bit.ly/3vJk7apScienceFocus.com, "What were the ‘Oakville blobs’?": https://bit.ly/3njPTHcMedium, "The Blobs That Fell from the Sky": https://bit.ly/3aWQfh1TOXIC LADYDiscover Magazine, "Analysis of a Toxic Death": https://bit.ly/3ndOKkbWikipedia, "The Death of Gloria Ramirez": https://bit.ly/3aU80gSIFL Science, "The Death Of 'The Toxic Lady' Remains An Unsolved Medical Case": https://bit.ly/3lYjzd7*******Get in touch:Instagram and Twitter | @winetimespodMM | @truecrimewine69Katy | @katyhosswinetimespod@gmail.com