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Tour de France Stage 4 | The Sir Wiggo & Johan Show
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Johan Bruyneel and Sir Bradley Wiggins peel back the curtain on the tactics, strategy, and pivotal moments that shaped Stage 4 of the 2025 Tour de France, offering sharp analysis and insider perspective you won’t hear anywhere else. Join: No race?...
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- [00:00]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Today's stage was a dominant performance by tade bagacha. His 100th victory in the World Champions jersey, which was phenomenal. It was. You know, we're running out of superlatives to describe Tade, but he made the race today. He put his team on the front before that last climb and they were really going, but to launch the attack. We all knew he was going to launch that attack, and when he did, Jonas was the only one who could stay with him up to a certain point. Younes cracked slightly, then came back to him. But then for Tade to go again in the bunch sprint in the small group finish and beat Mathieu van der Poel in an uphill finish like that just shows his class. I mean, this guy is getting closer and closer to how we remember Eddy Merckx. He's Merckx in terms of his greatness. I'm the 2012 Tour de France winner, Sir Bradley Wiggins.
- [00:47]
Johan Bernal
And I'm Johan Bernal. I directed my teams to nine Tour de France victories. Welcome to the Sir Wiggle and Johan show, our daily show where we dive deep into the tactics behind every stage of the Tour de France. Okay, Bradley, let's talk about today's stage. Stage four, our show, as every day is presented by Keaton iq. We're going to talk later about it. But Bradley, what's your opinion of today's stage?
- [01:15]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Today's stage was a dominant performance by Tade Bagaccia, his hundredth victory in the World Champions jersey, which was phenomenal. It was. You know, we're running out of superlatives to describe today, but he made the race today. He put his team on the front before that last climb and they were really going. But to launch the attack. We all knew he was going to launch that attack, and when he did, Yunus was the only one who could stay with him up to a certain point. Yunus cracked slightly, then came back to him. But then for Tade to go again in the bunch sprint in the, in the, in the. The small group finish and beat Matthew Vanderpoel in an uphill finish like that just shows his class. I mean, this guy getting closer and closer to how we remember Eddie Merckx. He's Mercs esque in terms of his greatness.
- [01:59]
Johan Bernal
Yeah, I agree, I agree. It's crazy how he, how he does it, you know, I mean, I'm also really blown away, Bradley. I don't know what you think about how easy and comfortable he looks in, in the peloton until he really goes for it. 100%. He just looks chill.
- [02:16]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
He does, he always. Yeah, and he avoids all the problems and crashes. We never see him have a problem. Yeah, he just, and that goes with having good legs. You know, you've got good legs. You seem to miss all the problems and issues. But Tade, you know, and he's been very restrained the last few days, hasn't he? We expected this kind of attack maybe a few days ago in Bolognese on that, but he's ridden the perfect race up to this point now. And it's, it's, it's panning out to be certainly a two horse race as we expected. But more, more than ever now after today, and I think it will be confirmed tomorrow, maybe after the time trial, is that he is now the clear favorite for this race. But Eunice is very close. The only, the only sort of dent in, in Eunice's armor is that slight crack 100 meters from the summit today, which was, was a bizarre one because he had the legs to come back to today.
- [03:09]
Johan Bernal
Yeah, yeah, I, I'm personally, I mean, I'm personally not reading too much into it. You know, it's, it's, it's obviously Favoring today, this 10% explosive climbs. I think it was very telling that he could come back that, you know, he got dropped, he came back. That says a lot about. Anyway, before we go into more details. Rad. Let's talk about our first sponsor of the day.
- [03:34]
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- [04:53]
Johan Bernal
Before we go into Bradley, into the, you know, the action of the favorites in the final, I just want to talk a little bit about, you know, first of all, we have the typical breakaway of four riders, four strong riders who took up the majority of the stage. And I think we could see today what we talked about two or three days ago, you know, that the break was, was they had two, three minutes and the peloton didn't chase. And just by the nervousness in the peloton, they got reeled in.
- [05:24]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, yeah, that was it. It was no, through no fault of their own. You know, the nervousness and the anxiety in the peloton and the crashes again we saw today and the natural, you know, people know, preparing themselves for what was coming in that final. You know, everyone wanted to be in the front and it just, you know, forced the momentum and the speed of the peloton went greater and greater and greater as everyone was trying to stay in the front. And it was a shame for the breakaway because that was a really strong break, but it was inevitable, really, on a, on a day like today. I know George said on the main show yesterday that he thought this was a day for the breakaways, but in this modern day cycling week one of the Tour de France, there, there was no other outcome in my mind that we wouldn't see a finish contested with the guys we've been talking about for the first week.
- [06:10]
Johan Bernal
Yeah, that's true. I mean, you, you would always say, okay, there's a guy like, like as green there, very famous for having breakaways make it to the finish. Abrahamson, very strong rider. Extraordinary, actually, the story of Abrahamson, because in the Tour of Belgium two weeks ago, he broke his collarbone. This guy broke his collarbone in a crash. And he's at the start of the Tour. I followed his, his training a bit. I mean, I don't know if it was a serious break or if it was a fracture. But two days after the crash, I watched the crash in Tour of Belgium was a bad crash. Two days after he was on the home trainer and four days after he announced he was going to the Tour de France, and here he is already fighting for stage wins. Yeah, but also what I really want to remark today was Lenny Martinez. Lenny Martinez was the first day he was the worst rider of the whole peloton. He could not follow the wheels. Yet today he was in there.
- [07:10]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, that was. Yeah, he. Apparently he's quite renowned for this. You know, he's renowned for, you know, having really off days and then bouncing back In a matter of days or the next day and doing something special. I mean we saw him at the dofening in the Queen stage and I think the day before lost a packet of time. So. Yeah, you know, but he's, when he, when he produced it, I mean this isn't the, this isn't the last we've seen of him in this Tour de France, Lenny. But it was good to see him out there after stage one because that was painful to watch on stage one.
- [07:40]
Johan Bernal
Yeah.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
Anyone finishing just in front of the broom wagon is not a nice experience.
- [07:44]
Johan Bernal
No, it was, it was horrible. He was by himself, you know, in the cars coming back. Dropped again, really getting dropped by himself on flat roads. This is a guy who probably has, you know, a problem of getting into the rhythm, but today was not a real stage for him either. You know, I think we're gonna say we're gonna see him, we're gonna see him in mountain stages probably, or a few of them. But I think he wanted to make a point and probably have a go at, at the polkadot jersey which is now back with that Pugacher. I want to talk about that a little bit later. But yeah, I mean other than that. Bradley, as we expected, you know, with $40k to go, you could feel the stress. UAE was taking control in the last 30km. Then we had Visma Lisa Bike really doing an unbelievable lead out for those last climbs. Before we go into the how developed the final of the race with today and Jonas and Matthew van der Poel and others, I want to talk about Ketone iq. Ketone iq. We all know that ketones are used widely through the peloton. Some teams amongst them Visma Lisa Bike are using our brand Keton IQ. This is my preferred product here. My shot of 10 grams of pure ketones, clean shot of energy, no sugar, no caffeine. Ketone IQ has been working with Visma Lisa bike and it's been scientifically proven that ketones nowadays boost athletic performance. In a placebo controlled study with trained athletes, ketone IQ boosted average sprint power by 19, peak power by 13% and cut fatigue by 10%. Spiked blood ketones five times in just 20 minutes. They've also discovered, and this is very important for to the France riders that ketones help for a faster recovery. Ketone Accu teamed up with Visma Lisa Bike and with the University of Leuven to explore recovery and high altitude adaptation and their findings are impressive. They found improved blood flow, higher muscle oxygenation for better endurance and stamina. So take your shot. Get 30% off your subscription plus a free gift with your second shipment@ketone.com the move. That's ketone.com the move, Bradley. The race gets into the final. We have 40, 30k to go. It's crazy. We have a few crashes. We saw one big crash. Again, when the musical, the typical event, you know, from three lanes to two lanes. We had. We had a crash. I don't know if Ben o' Connor was behind that crash. I saw him. Him being. Being dropped. I don't know if it was because of the crash or because of the crash he had before. Do you have any info on Ben o'?
- [10:47]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Connor? Yeah, no, no, no info on Ben. Yeah, but certainly you could see. I mean, I saw him with the, you know, the tape all up his back and stuff. You know, the. The kinesy tape, it's called. So he's clearly struggling from that heavy fall. You know, he felt hard the other day, so, yeah, it's a shame for Ben. Really is. But once again, we've seen another crash where these kind of makeshift barriers are funneling the riders into a road that's, you know, it's the speed of which you're funneling riders in. It just. I mean, we know what it's like. It's crazy. But once again, the likes of Tadi Bogatra and people like that, they miss all this. Which is, you know, part of Tade's genius really, is always riding good position. The team have been fantastic with him. But yeah, nothing more on Ben at this stage.
- [11:35]
Johan Bernal
Yeah, okay. Okay. Also, Florian Lipovitz got. Got dropped at some point. I think he was held up behind that crash and had to come back or something. Not. Not a great start for him. You know, uh, he's a strong rider. I mean, okay, it's 20 seconds here, 30 seconds there. I think ultimately it's not going to matter that much because I'm pretty sure that in the second half of the tour he will come to the front. But. But yeah, not. Not a good start for him and not a good start for Red Bull because Primos lost time again too today. Yeah.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
Which is another 32 seconds.
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Johan Bernal
Yeah. And this is a stage that would be Primos. Normally. This is Primo's terrain. Right.
- [12:15]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Did you. Did you see his comments that he's been making recently about.
- [12:20]
Johan Bernal
Yeah. Blowing it off. Right. Just.
- [12:22]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, I thought that was quite strange, you know, for Primus, who's normally very clear and concise about what he wants to achieve, I thought it might be a deflection. Tactic, but at the same time his results don't reflect it. Yeah, a deflection.
- [12:36]
Johan Bernal
Yeah. I mean, you know, it may be a tactic to say, okay, you know what, I just want to stay quiet, no pressure. I'm personally not convinced that his team and the team management are going to like these kind of comments. And the sponsor, I mean, if this is a guy who pay several millions of euros, you don't want him to say, oh, you know what, I don't care. That's not, that's not the right way to do it, you know, but what to say, what to say about uae, the way they run.
- [13:06]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
They wrote fantastic. Tim Welland is great again today.
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Johan Bernal
Yeah.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
You know, the Belgium, the Belgium duo of Tim and Victor. Victor rode fantastic today. He really is. He's something special, that boy.
- [13:18]
Johan Bernal
Yeah. Victor Campenaert was a beast today. That, that lead out to that 800 meter climb was, was just, I mean, you could see obviously they've studied the course to perfection like probably everybody else, but then to, to have a plan and to be able to execute that with the team, you have to have the power. And Victor did this by himself. I don't, I haven't calculated, but that was, I think it was like three, four kilometers. Yeah, you know, they got, they got to the point where it became really technical. A few turns, then a tricky downhill and, and Victor just dropped them off at the bottom of, of that climb, which was amazing. But what to say about. I mean, this is for me, I mean, that guy, this guy's a genius.
- [14:09]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah. I mean, he is on paper the best stage race rider in the world this year, isn't he? Yeah, no, no, he done a fantastic job and it was, you know that, that's one of the things with these two teams. You've got Visma and uae. You know, Almeida is going to be Tade's biggest asset into the mountains in this, in this Tour de France. And, and then on the other side, Visma, how good was Matteo Jorgensen today? Yeah, I mean, that guy is just. I'm so, so, I'm so in awe of him and the way he rides and, and he's a real calming figure for Eunice, but he's there every step of the way and, and you know these guys, they're a joy to watch. But yeah, I did see a. Comments afterwards when he, the plan was potentially at one stage with a kilometer to go that they were going to try and let Matteo win the stage or try and at least get him to win the stage. But it wasn't to be, but yeah, it's. Almeida was fantastic today again.
- [15:02]
Johan Bernal
Yeah, no, there was one point. There was one point I saw with 15km to go, UAE where they were impressive. They had five riders with today. So four riders enter there. And it looked like, okay, they're gonna go now. Right. They're gonna go and not slow down anyway. And all of a sudden they slowed down.
- [15:18]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah.
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Johan Bernal
Because jaw Almeida was not there. I think jaw Almeida was bothered by the crash. And it took a long time. It took a long time because they started to go with. I wrote it down here. They started to go with 15k to go, and Almeida only made it to the front with 11k to go. Right. So there was 4km where he had to try to find his way. I mean, imagine, Bradley, how strong this guy must be, because the effort it takes to come from basically a lost position. And we all know that if they're going so fast, people are getting dropped, so you have to pass little groups. Yeah, he is by, by far today. The. The. The champ. The champ of the stage. They want it, but it is thanks to. To Almeida.
- [16:07]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah. Special shout out as well to Oscar Onley, the Scottish rider.
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Johan Bernal
Oh, yeah.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
Who was forced today again, 22 years of age, second Tour de France, one stage in the Tour de Suisse. But that was a great ride from him.
- [16:19]
Johan Bernal
It was amazing. And. And what I really, really was really surprised is that Oscar only is one of the guys who's there who didn't need to come back. He was there all the time with the first guys. Yeah, he did not come back because I think it was Vauquelin who came back and Romain Gregoire and another guy. I don't remember the other guy now, but. But only was there straight away. He was never separated. So. So yeah, we go into that steep climb, you know, Visma leads it out, then UAE takes over, a great pull of Narvaez. And today goes right. Yeah. What were you thinking when you. What?
- [17:04]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
I was jumping up and down in the air when today went. But it was. The attack was incredible. I mean, the thing with Tade is whether we're on a climb like this that's 800 meters long, that's 11, 12%, or whether he's on a 15 kilometer Alpine climb. He attacks the same way. It's 100, throws all caution to the wind, and he's going for it, and he doesn't slow down. And it was, you know, it was a little bit of deja vu from that dopene attack when Jonas because it's always, it's always Tade, who's going with Eunice on the wheel, trying his best to stay there. But I mean, today was just, you know, I mean, we're four days into the Tour de France and, and we're seeing the heads of the Tour de France come to the fore already. You know, I mean, it's, it's, it's unprecedented what this guy's doing. I mean, you know, 10 years ago, you know, in your era, in Lance's era, four days in, we would never expect to see, you know, the heads of the Tour de France come to the fore this, this quickly, would we?
- [18:06]
Johan Bernal
No. Especially not on a, On a, especially not on a. On an 800 meter climb. 10%. You know, it's, it's unbelievable to see that we have, we have one climb of 800 met 10%, and the two favorites are riding away from everybody else.
- [18:21]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
That's the number as well. The numbers, the numbers on that last climb today. Two minutes at 2800 VAM.
- [18:28]
Johan Bernal
Yeah. That's crazy. I saw, I saw a little clip of Jurgensen speaking to Jonas after the stage when they were, they were warming down and Matteo said, you know, I was seeing what I was doing in terms of power output and I watched both of you guys disappear and I couldn't believe it. So that's, that's inside information of how, how good these guys are, right?
- [18:53]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, it's incredible.
- [18:54]
Johan Bernal
Yeah. Now, I personally, I'm not, I'm not reading too much into Yona because, you know, there's been, and I know you guys talked about it on the move. You know, Jonas got dropped. Is it really getting dropped? I think it's also, and there's. Here's where you see, in my opinion, that today is riding differently and smarter than in the past. In my opinion. In my opinion, he knew very well that if he makes it to the top, even by himself, Jonas is not going to be far away. And he would never go full gas because he would not make it. No. Right. He knew that. He knew that Jorgensen was there. He knew that Mathieu was there, who wanted to come back. He knew that Remco was there. So even, even today would not be able to make it. So I think he has matured in that, in that point of view that earlier, earlier years, he would have tried to keep going by himself, and he didn't.
- [19:55]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, but it was a statement nonetheless, wasn't it? And either way, you know, he's capable of efforts like that and he knew that the Guys behind would have to make twice as much effort, you know, in getting dropped and also to recover over the top to come back to him. So we saw him go over the summit. He didn't keep that effort going, as you said, and he just rolled along and let the other guys come back up to him because his job was already done at that point. You know, he took the edge off the riders behind the Matthew van der Pauls, this world that was Matthew's biggest problem was recovering from that effort like that to make the sprint finish as well.
- [20:27]
Johan Bernal
I agree, I agree. That's the reason why Matthieu didn't win. He had to go so much over the limit on that climb. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [20:35]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
That was tactic.
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Johan Bernal
I still find it incredible, Bradley, to see that, you know, you have a guy here who's trying to win his, his, his fourth Tour de France, right, that they put so much effort into trying such an early stage. This is how things have changed. You know, it's it. And the day before the time trial on top of that, you know, is that, you know, they go full and they both went full and tomorrow is the first real big appointment. So.
- [21:04]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah.
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Johan Bernal
How fast they recover. Right.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
But it's funny you say that, Johan, you know, because what happened 30 years ago today, we all know what happened 30 years ago today. Miguel did the same thing into Liege the day before a time trial, didn't he?
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Johan Bernal
Yeah.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
And that, that at the time, I can remember watching at the time it was unheard of that early in the Tour de France a rider like Miguel would show his colors that early and obviously you won the stage, took the jersey and the time trial the day after. Miguel suffered in the time trial the day after, if you remember, and only won by five seconds. He nearly lost that time trial to.
- [21:34]
Johan Bernal
Beyond Reeves, didn't Beyond Reese. Exactly. That's true. That's true. Ye, I read, I read because this week I've been contacted by several media because of this, especially here in Spain. And I read an interview of Saviour and Sui about that stage. And this was not planned. You know, it's Miguel himself who decided during the stage, I think one of the earlier climbs, you know, it was the old fashioned lie at Baston, Liege. Parkours, right?
- [22:04]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, yeah.
- [22:05]
Johan Bernal
And Miguel had seen that a lot of people were suffering and he just gave it a try, just to try the opponents. And by surprise he came, he was by himself, but it wasn't planned. But he paid for it the day after because usually Miguel won time trials with three minutes, sometimes not Two and a half, three minutes and he won by five seconds. So yeah, anyways, today I think both of the big favorites, they went both full gas and so I don't, I think, I think it's, it's quite, it's quite even so on tomorrow's time.
- [22:36]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Joe, who do you, who are you thinking for tomorrow?
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Johan Bernal
Well, I think Remco Ramco is the big favorite. You know, there's a lot of people who say yeah, you know, Dauphine Remco took 25 seconds on one and 40 seconds on the other. So now it's double the distance. I think that's irrelevant. I think it doesn't translate to the same thing in the Tour de France. It's not the same parkours, it's, it's flatter. So you can say, okay, is it better or worse for ankle? You, in theory you would say it's better, right? Because it's, he's the most arrow of everybody and the best pure specialist. But I don't think he's gonna take double the time he took from the Dauphine. What do you think?
- [23:21]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
I mean it's a different time trial as you say. It's 33 km, it's flat. There was a hill in the dofenate time trial which was, you know, broke that the rhythm up a little bit. No, I, I, I, I think we're going to talk about the same people. It's definitely going to be Remco, got to be the favorite. There's a question mark for me over Remco's, A his confidence and B, his condition, you know, because we've seen slight chinks in his army. He has had a couple of tumbles in the first few days, but I think Tade is up a level from the doan and I think Tade will, you know, I think Tade, especially after today, Tadde will be out going out. I mean he's, he's one time trolls in the Tour de France in the past. So the Tour de France is where he performs. And I don't think we can read too much into today's dofanate performance and you know, correlate it with how he does tomorrow. The one for me who will be interesting to see and I've got a sneaking suspicion, you know, it could go Eunice's way tomorrow. Eunice, you know, if we take Tade out of the equation. This is the best I've seen Eunice in the first week of any Tour de France he's done.
- [24:25]
Johan Bernal
No doubt, no doubt about that.
- [24:28]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
The only Reason we question whether, you know, we're still talking about Eunice's second place is because of how good Tada is. Eunice is, is better than I think any addition that he won in this race. So for today and the time trial, you know, we've seen him win a time from the tour in the past. Eunice is time traveling better than he's ever time trialled and that was proven at the Dover day. So I think it could be interesting tomorrow. Eunice could spring a surprise and you know, shake this GC up a little bit. Whether that equates to what happens in the mountains or not, I don't know. But from a first week standpoint, it'll be interesting to see owners tomorrow.
- [25:00]
Johan Bernal
It would be great. It would be great. Now going back to our discussion of yesterday, Brad, about the polka dot jersey. Giving away the polka dot jersey and if it was for podium, podium obligations or for the skin suit, we can.
- [25:17]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Forget everything we said yesterday. We can get everything we said yesterday.
- [25:20]
Johan Bernal
Today is back in polkadot now. And yeah, you know, I think it was kind of. Yeah, it was a logical scenario. I think they, they should have known also on beforehand because if the plan was for today to attack on that last climb, he was going to take the points and be back in the pocket jersey.
- [25:36]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, I mean we were speculating when we yesterday and probably got it wrong. And it looks like that the main reason for that was he wanted to win his 100th win in the world championship jersey, which you know, I hadn't considered. But that's, that's quite a, quite a confidence dance, isn't it to, to think that far ahead and think, you know, what if I win tomorrow or when I win tomorrow, I want to win in the world champs jersey, my 100th victory.
- [26:00]
Johan Bernal
It's crazy. It's crazy to think that you kind of design these scenarios on beforehand and that's the way you want to do it where the majority of the riders are just desperate to try to win a stage. He wants to win his 100 stage and he had the polka dot jersey. He wanted to lose it because he wanted to win in the rainbow jersey. Right?
- [26:21]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah, yeah.
- [26:22]
Johan Bernal
By the way, I did some research on the discussion we had yesterday about being able to use your own skin suits with your own fabric. It's forbidden. ASO is, is very being. I mean, quite a dictator in that matter, I would say.
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Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yeah.
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Johan Bernal
They forced you to wear the skin suits that there is however, so the technicians of. It's Santini. Right. The brand. So the technicians of the Santini go tonight to the hotel of the yellow jersey and everybody else who is wearing another leader's jersey can go there and they, they have rollers there, they can bring their bike, they can be in the time trial position and they actually stitch there on the spot.
- [27:13]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Okay.
- [27:14]
Johan Bernal
Up to measure the skin suits. I still think, however, that it's, it's not right.
- [27:22]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Even that in itself. Johan, is quite a process, isn't it? When you're, you've raced all day today and you've got to go and spend 20 minutes having.
- [27:29]
Johan Bernal
You know. Exactly. And you know, and as we said yesterday, you know, these big teams, especially the big teams, they, they invest a lot of resources in trying to have the fastest fabric ever. And then on top of that, the, the comfort of your own clothing that you're used to. The chamois, for example.
- [27:46]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Well, the chamois, the contact point is, you know, we all know that's the most important part, isn't it? Through any brand is keeping. Yeah, you know, you know, and back in my day when we had sky, we were sponsored by Nalini the kit. But I would have Assos, who were the best chamois. I would send all my shorts to Assos and they would put Assos shammies in my Nalini shorts.
- [28:04]
Johan Bernal
Yeah.
- [28:05]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
And, and the contact point, even in time traveling, you know how easy it is to get a saddle saw, especially on the time trial bike. Because it's the worst.
- [28:11]
Johan Bernal
It's the worst. It's the worst. You can, you can, you can really have, I mean, yeah, you can have rash and. No, I, I still don't, don't get it. But you know, ASO rules, as we all know. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. So, yeah, one last thing that I wanted to ask your opinion about. I know you're favoring Jonas for tomorrow. I remarked the difference in freshness today after the finish between today and Jonas. They both went full gas, of course, you know, they both went full of that last climb and they both went full up the finishing straight today to try to win the stage, Jonas to try to not lose any, any time and take modifications, which he did. So great job by Jonas. Again, the same top three, by the way, as two days ago, same three riders and you know, the order is different. But today I watched an interview with him and this was five minutes after he finished. You know, he was sitting there, the, the first, the first, the first interview takes off, the helmet starts to talk. Fresh as a daisy. Unbelievable how fresh he looked straight, recovered and then Straight after I saw images from Jonas at the finish getting drinks. It was maybe two, three minutes earlier than that, but not much more. Completely destroyed. Completely destroyed. Hanging over his bike. So I found it quite remarkable, the opposite, you know, being fresh and Jonas really went deep, you know. But if you look back actually to. Because today was the first time they really were head to head on. On that steep climb last year, for example, we all thought about stage two up to Santa Catarina and there was a lot of doubts about Jonas, his form. And he was. They tried and he was able to hang on also. So, you know, there's not much difference, you know. No, no. So we'll. We'll see anyway. We'll. We'll finish our. Our show with. With the Vent. The daily Ventum trivia. The question of Yesterday for stage three was history was made at the finish of stage three of the 2024 Tour de France. What happened? The answer was many people thought it was about Mark Cavendish. It was not. It was Binyam Girmai who became the first black African to win a stage at the Tour de France. Stage four question. You want to get that, Bradley?
- [30:47]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
Yes. The stage four's question is, while not a famous summit in the tour, stage four features the Cote de Jacques, a 2.6 kilometer category four climb named after the French cyclist Jacques Anquetil. What two things did Anquetil accomplish to get this climb named in his honor?
- [31:08]
Johan Bernal
Okay, well send your best guess or if you know the answer, just send your answer to ventumracing.com themove and you can enter. You will enter in to win this year's grand prize. It's $5,000 of store credit towards any Phantom bike. If you don't want to wait for the end of the competition, which we will draw at the end of the Tour, Ventum is also offering a standing discount during the whole duration of the Tour. So you get 10% of the whole site with the code the move 10 or you get 20% off any NS1 bike with the code NS1 20. Tomorrow we'll be back with with another question and we'll be giving the answer about Sharp. Until then, Bradley, thanks very much for joining as always and speak tomorrow. Okay, bye.
- [31:55]
Sir Bradley Wiggins
See you later. Bye.
- [31:56]
Johan Bernal
Bye.