
Lance Armstrong, Mari Holden, and Alison Tetrick break down Lorena Wiebes’ dominant sprint victory on Stage 3 of the 2025 Tour de France Femmes Avec Zwift. They also discuss the ramifications of a late-stage crash involving GC favorite Demi...
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Mari Holden
You know, I jumped away from that Demi comment quickly, you know, after she had attacked on the front. I'm jumping back. Well, mainly because I feel like, you know, it's just an example of how she kind of wastes energy a lot of times and like, that was a completely unnecessary thing to go and do. And I don't understand her tactics sometimes. Especially. Especially in this race where the big climbing comes towards the end and you're. You're the favorite. I mean, it's staying safe and everything, but it's. And maybe if there's an opportunity getting into a break or some. Not a break, but in a cross, being at the front. But the thing is, is that to waste all these little attacks is kind of. It all adds up. And I mean, it's the same thing as being in the back at a race, too, where you're having to work 10 times harder than the people at the front. Like, why. Why do these little jumps that are going to take away your energy?
Lance Armstrong
Welcome back to the Move, joined by Mari Holden, legend, Olympic. Olympic medalist Allison Tetrick down there.
Allison Tetrick
Hello.
Lance Armstrong
How are you? Good morning. Talking about stage three of the Tour de France. Fam. Avec Zwift Mal hien. Cappy, talk to us. Where'd we go?
Allison Tetrick
Stage 3, La Gasili to anger.
Lance Armstrong
This is so gasili to anger. I love it. I love every part of that.
Allison Tetrick
And we love Mel.
Lance Armstrong
And we love Mel. Big paella night for the team end of the men's tour. Kind of sort of the kickoff of the Tour de France. Fam of Egg Zwift.
Mari Holden
Always a good start.
Lance Armstrong
By the way.
Mari Holden
Where were you?
Lance Armstrong
I. I was.
Allison Tetrick
I was there.
Lance Armstrong
You guys came. I got reports that you were there. Yes, I was. Course on the golf course and came and you were gone.
Mari Holden
Yeah, I. I was only there for a little over an hour. I had a little jet lag.
Lance Armstrong
Anna did say she was like. Said you were. And I was like, what? And I was like, oh, yeah, she just came from France. But all right, you're excused. Anyways, Lorena Weas, not a surprise, right? Cranking out.
Allison Tetrick
I think the bets were pretty high on her winning.
Lance Armstrong
They. They said something interesting in the coverage, too, that I guess she didn't win a stage last year. That had been two years. You see a sprinter like that that's so dominant and so powerful, you think, well, but they must win one every year. At least. Didn't win last year, but she handedly won today.
Allison Tetrick
And she's got another great shot tomorrow.
Mari Holden
That's huge for SD works. They really needed that.
Lance Armstrong
And they were alluding to that also in the coverage that just that the team has been misfiring. Obviously, the departure of Demi Vollering didn't seem like it. I mean, no.
Mari Holden
I mean, looking at Capeki the other day, everything started to kind of, you know, call into question what was going to happen in this race. So it was great to see her riding a little better today. And then Weavis pulling it off.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah, they took control and they delivered. But before we jump into it, how do we talk about the Tour de France Van Beck Zwift without talking about Zwift? I know they support our show and of course are the title sponsor. So I love Zwift. I ride it all the time. Turns out I do have the highest Zwift Fitness score over George and you, Lance, because you can use your outdoor rides to count towards your Zwift Fitness score as well. And Colton, I are going to set up my bike here on the Zwift after the show. Snow mass is real high and there's a lot of hills, so I might need to just spin my legs legs out. But Zwift recently rolled out their cog and click setup sitting right here. Uh, you don't need to change your cassette. No bike drama. There's plenty of drama here in the Tour de France. Foam back swift, and you can literally use it on any bike you have. So a bike collecting dust in the garage. I have maybe a few of those there. And there you go. You got a top shelf smart trainer at your fingertips. Just plug in, clip and go. Works with all the big names. Trainers like Wahoo. My personal favorite, Garmin Jet Black Elite Decathlon. $299, which means more people on bikes than in the game. And yeah, I like winning.
Lance Armstrong
Sync up your app so you get credit.
Mari Holden
Yeah, I could do that.
Allison Tetrick
Here it is right here. I'm careful of not picking up, so I think I might drop it. Yeah, yeah, I make a lot of noises.
Lance Armstrong
You know, days like this, there's. You don't expect a whole lot of drama. I mean, we talked. I mean, you sort of expect a sprint stage like that. Lorena Levis, obviously big favorite, comes through breakaway early on that got minutes. This is all really traditional in cycling. I guess the most interesting thing happened. 4k to go. Huge crash. Huge crash. Demi Vollering involved in that crash. And as she sometimes does, just slow to get up. I think we were all like, is she okay? Is she appeared to be okay at the finish line.
Mari Holden
Well, it was kind of interesting Watching it kind of all unfold. You know, they were on all those super small little roads, super technical, and then they came into the wider road and everyone was kind of spread out across the road, and then they were coming in. It wasn't long on that road before they took that tight turn into the finish. And you could just see that they were all going to have some issues coming into that.
Allison Tetrick
It looked bad. We don't know any of the injury updates, of course, yet the stage is finished, but there are definitely bodies everywhere. So it was a pretty gnarly crash. Not the first one of that stage. Stage, either.
Mari Holden
Well, and they got lucky with the 5K rule, you know, I mean, it was. They definitely put it at the right time there.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah. And that. That's been a development. It's actually been a progression over the years in cycling. You know, when. When we raced, it was 1k, right. So you had all of the GC people just getting in the way and trying to stay there with 1k to go. And as soon as they got to 1k, they would. They could relax. But then it got moved back to 3K and now back to 5K. That's probably the most. I think, that they can move that out. I think that's a healthy rule to have. We started debating, though, then what happens if then within that 5k, there were to be. There was another selection. Who knows, right? Still debatable. But nonetheless, she got up. Did not appear to be pedaling very efficiently after that.
Allison Tetrick
No teammates were pushing her up through the finishing chute. It looked like she finally was.
Lance Armstrong
She got it going a little bit, which is what you do, right? I mean, once the legs get moving. And then I personally think it's better to get up as. As soon as you can and not let the. Whether it's a contusion or anything, just. Or a blow. Because, look, you crash, you can hit anything, right? You can hit a handle, but somebody else's handlebar, a pedal.
Mari Holden
Yeah. But at the same time, with a 5k rule and you have as much time, it's like a neutral. You don't even have to worry about it.
Lance Armstrong
Get moving. Get it.
Mari Holden
Yeah, you want to get moving. I mean, to me, when she stood up, it didn't look like there was anything really wrong with her. There was no road rash. There was not. Maybe she hit hard, but it was similar to her crash last year where, you know, she took forever to get going. And there was no neutral in that, obviously, but cost her the Tour. I think at this point, you'd be getting up a little faster, but she did have time to, to take her time and some people like to relax a little more.
Allison Tetrick
Lance doesn't like it. He wants you to bounce up.
Lance Armstrong
We all, we all get up from crashes differently. Yeah. I mean, you just assume that. I mean, we don't know. We went and they, and they didn't. We didn't get a lot of coverage of the crash. We saw a lot of highlight reels or replays of the sprint finish, but we didn't. A lot of times they'll go back and just sort of diagnose the crash, who caused the crash, who, you know, who went down. GC wise, that would affect the impact of the race, so. Or the outcome of the race.
Allison Tetrick
But GC new yellow jersey back on fossa shoulders.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah, a game of numbers. Right. So on same time.
Allison Tetrick
But then she got a time bonus getting second place on the stage. So now Kim Lacourt is second in GC six seconds back going into tomorrow.
Mari Holden
Which is, you know, kind of interesting. Like, had it been a normal sprint, would she have. She probably wouldn't have necessarily gotten the same points. If you had like Balsamo and those ones up there too, maybe she would.
Lance Armstrong
Have got second, you're saying.
Mari Holden
Yeah, like maybe that would. I mean, it's more power to her that she did get second, you know, But I mean, when your group, when the group is like 20 people or 15 or whatever the size was coming in versus having the other sprinters there with her to contest the sprint, it definitely changed the outcome, I think.
Lance Armstrong
And she did. She was alone quite a bit as well in that sprint. If you watch the, the overhead shot on the outside out into the wind. When she, she did that sprint her own, on her own and still got second course. Like you said, Allie gave her the 6 seconds time bonus, 1064 at the finish. Obviously Lorena Weavis is not really concerned or doesn't care about 10 second bonuses, but certainly helped Marianne Voss. I had a fun time because we were talking about Kim Lacourt yesterday who took the yellow jersey based on average finish placings and by the way, she barely had it. She had it by half a place.
Allison Tetrick
Oh, gosh.
Lance Armstrong
If you average those two stages out, she was half a place ahead of Marianne Vos and we've talked about her and she wears this jersey because she's the national champion of Mauritius. It looks very similar to the rainbow jersey, which of course a lot of capek he's wearing. So if you saw them from a helicopter show, why Are they both world champions? Slightly different. We're sort of kicking around, like, where is Mauritius? And so I roughly knew where it was, but I didn't know what it looked like.
Allison Tetrick
Now we know.
Lance Armstrong
Wow. All right, so let me. Let me just start your day, folks. Kim LaCour gets to wear the yellow jersey and the Tour de France fam of ex wife. And this is where she's from.
Mari Holden
I want to know how you even start bike racing if you live there.
Lance Armstrong
I don't either. I don't either. Hashtag winning.
Allison Tetrick
Hashtag winning.
Lance Armstrong
This is what Mauritius looks like now. I don't know if you can ride bikes up there. Mountain bikes or whatever. There's some other mountains if you look off to the left. Wow.
Allison Tetrick
I know. Now I have Mari on Find My Friends, you know, tomorrow. She's not on the show. We know where Mari is.
Lance Armstrong
No, exactly. Mari was. She immediately pulled out whatever it is. Expedia or one of these ninja travel sites you go to. I mean, that's checking it out.
Mari Holden
Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
That's winning.
Mari Holden
That's winning.
Allison Tetrick
I actually also found out Kim, you know, she speaks fluent French. She spends her time between Cape Town in South Africa and Girona. Her father's French, her mom's Scottish, and the native language of Mauritius, which he. Under. Mauritius, which he understands, is Creole.
Lance Armstrong
I believe that. Yeah. Anyhow, it's. It's out. It's 2,000 miles out into the Indian Ocean. We are a long ways from home.
Mari Holden
She doesn't get to visit home very often.
Lance Armstrong
No, no, no, no. But we might be visiting her home tomorrow. Settle down, folks in Mauritius. I know. Got the area trail thing going.
Allison Tetrick
What does George have those. Those dizzies? Can you get one for us?
Lance Armstrong
And a yizzy. That looks like it's. It'll. It'll handle a yizzy quite well as well. The other thing we pulled up a picture of, which is. This is big with Ali. Oh, you know.
Allison Tetrick
Oh, I know.
Lance Armstrong
It's always, you know, you look at the results, check for the crashes, look at the gc, blah, blah, blah. The tracker for Lorena Weavis's nails.
Allison Tetrick
Boom.
Lance Armstrong
Is. Is a big deal. And she. I guess she switches. I don't know how nails work.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah, you can redo that.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah. This is before the state. She posted this on her Instagram. So this Quite artsy. This is what she's thinking. I'm gonna rock these nails and then rock these women in the final sprint.
Allison Tetrick
They're, like, moody.
Lance Armstrong
It's. That's super. That's like an album cover.
Allison Tetrick
She's gonna throw down with those nails. She's thinking about tomorrow. I wonder if they'll change for tomorrow. I'll let you know.
Lance Armstrong
Gotta love the aura ring there, too. I wonder what. I got my aura ring on her sleep score was.
Allison Tetrick
It's gonna be great tonight.
Lance Armstrong
The other interesting thing that we're. I don't know if this has been confirmed, but as. As is the case in cycling, there's kind of the buzz and things that just start to be talked about. Apparently there's a bit of a stomach bug rolling around the peloton.
Allison Tetrick
I know.
Lance Armstrong
Lamborghini. Lamborghini, however we say it.
Mari Holden
Well, I mean, we started. Marlon had, you know, stomach issues on the.
Lance Armstrong
On day one, right away, before the race started.
Allison Tetrick
Before.
Mari Holden
Yeah.
Allison Tetrick
And our Elisa Longo Borghini Lamborghini DNS today, stomach issue.
Lance Armstrong
Doesn't that happen, though? Like, I mean, you're sharing hotels, restaurants, team buses, by the way, too. You're in a peloton of 150 plus people. You're. These are. That's as close quarters as close quarters get. People are sneezing, snot. You know, there's just. It's easy. I don't like that. Right. It happens a lot. Like, you get a stomach bug running through the peloton. It's not isolated now.
Allison Tetrick
You know, I noticed something. I was going to point it out to you, Mari, and they were. When we were watching, Kopecki was being super domestique because, you know, 10 bottles down her back and she goes up to the front and Sakini was leading and she hands her a bottle. Wasn't what she wanted. Wanted a different bottle. So she takes it back and Kopecki takes it out of her mouth and gives it to another teammate. And I remember that's like, I used to try to carry a bottle in my mouth and my director was like, absolutely not.
Mari Holden
No, no. Sharing germs.
Allison Tetrick
But I was watching her, like, take it out of zucchini's mouth, then put it in her mouth and give it to another. Another of her riders, and she was just running out of hands.
Lance Armstrong
You know, this is to my point. I mean, this is how it happens. Little things like that, that in the heat of it, you just.
Mari Holden
Yeah, well, you don't really have many.
Lance Armstrong
I think I'll go without a bottle. I'm good.
Allison Tetrick
I always hated that, though. I'd, like carry all these bottles, go up to the front. You just work so hard. And then my DC leader would be like, ew, I didn't want grape electrolyte. I Wanted lemon, lime.
Mari Holden
I wanted it after the climb. You're like, wait a second.
Allison Tetrick
And I'm like, screw you.
Lance Armstrong
AKA Carry it over the climb.
Mari Holden
Carry it over the climb.
Allison Tetrick
Exactly. This one's not cold enough, by the way.
Lance Armstrong
Ali. I'm just kidding. And he wasn't kidding. My good friend Dakota Meyer, who is an absolute. He's an American hero and a lunatic, right? Saved about. I think it's 16 fellow Americans in Iraq was awarded the Congressional Medal of Honors. One of the very few Americans to ever be awarded the Congressional Medal alive. Right. Most of the time, these are after somebody's done something heroic and passed. But Dakota loved my hat yesterday. And at first I thought he's like, I need one of these. I'm like, come on, bro. He's like, no, I'm serious. Anyways, boom, I've got the address. And then he writes, I'll pay you.
Allison Tetrick
You better give him my number.
Lance Armstrong
You are sponsored. You're going to get a Zwift hat.
Mari Holden
Sponsored.
Allison Tetrick
I will sponsor Dakota.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah, Ally will sponsor you. Dude's beast. Beast.
Allison Tetrick
We're all a little insane. Come on.
Lance Armstrong
Speaking of Demi, too quite. You know, when we all. I was still at home watching the race. Y' all were here. They had the intermediate sprint, which Lorena, Wilbur. Lorena weaves, won convincingly. And then. And then Demi, which I don't. I don't hate. I don't hate that move. I mean, it's a good time. It's strung out, but far from the finish, she. She attacks there. I was like, I don't know about that. Where are you going?
Mari Holden
Yeah, that was a little bit strange.
Lance Armstrong
When she did that head scratcher.
Mari Holden
Yeah, it was a head scratcher. But right around that time, too. I think they were concerned about maybe some crosswinds coming up. It sounded like there was going to be a turn and maybe. I mean, it didn't look like she was. It was hard to say what she was doing. But after that was when Chloe came up and started taking Katja at the front and brought back the brakes, basically at that time.
Lance Armstrong
Well, that's what you said. I mean, you said she pretty much single handedly. I mean, it was at that point.
Mari Holden
Three minutes, two and a half minutes. And within a few K. Chloe just got on the front and drove it.
Allison Tetrick
It was under a minute. It was just Chloe on the front just dialing it up. It was a little like crosstail. We did have to talk that Kristin Faulkner was dfl. Is that what you say? Yeah. Lantern Rouge yesterday and she made the time cut by 24 seconds, which I did.
Lance Armstrong
I didn't know that. I saw. I follow her on Instagram, so I saw her post. I was like, whoa, how'd I miss that? Look, it happens, right? I mean it. And kind of who cares too? Like in the sense that if you're not there to win or, you know, compete for the old jersey, just take your. Take your licks where you do. And I supply a stage, isolate a stage, focus on that. But I didn't. I totally missed that.
Mari Holden
Yeah, I had missed it, too.
Allison Tetrick
I think it was before coverage started. It was a crash and then just chasing solo for a while. Look at you.
Lance Armstrong
Those my nordis lines banging this pole. I'm sorry. That's what George does the whole time.
Mari Holden
You know, I jumped away from that Demi comment quickly, you know, after she had attacked on the front. I'm jumping back. Well, mainly because I feel like, you know, it's just an example of how she kind of wastes energy a lot of times and like, that was a completely unnecessary thing to go and do. And I, I don't understand her tactics sometimes, especially. Especially in this race where the big climbing comes towards the end and you're. You're the favorite. I mean, it's staying safe and everything, but it's. And maybe if there's an opportunity getting into a break or some. Not a break, but in a crossman, being at the front. But the thing is, is that to waste all these little attacks is kind of. It all adds up. And I mean, it's the same thing as being in the back at a race too, where you're having to work 10 times harder than the people at the front. Like, why. Why do these little jumps that are going to take away your energy?
Lance Armstrong
Yeah, I think if it's set up perfectly and the team director knows, look, they're all staring at Google Maps and Google Earth. They see where. Where the mini forests are and they see where it opens up. They know where. They know the width of the road. Like, if you can, there's a master plan.
Mari Holden
Well, even if it was part of that master plan, even if it was part of a master plan, like, the master plan would have been to be up there and keep herself safe in the top few people. It wouldn't be to be driving the pace and being the one making the attacks would be to follow and stay in the front view, you know, and have your teammates around you. So, like making those little kind of efforts that are taking away her, you know, her energy for later on. It just doesn't make much sense.
Lance Armstrong
Net net. That was a bad day, not a great day.
Allison Tetrick
And especially when her team is not built like SD works, where this is, let's say 99.99 gonna come down to a sprint and SD works is made for that type of riding and you know they're gonna take control of the race and FDJ is, is made to help her in the climbs like the team is made for more of these all arounders to help her on the higher mountains. So I mean, I agree with you Mari.
Lance Armstrong
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Allison Tetrick
Flattest stage of the tour. Yeah, a little shorter.128 I wonder what the winds do.
Lance Armstrong
Have we moved to the Massif Central here for this?
Allison Tetrick
Yes, today was our last day in Britannia.
Lance Armstrong
The Massif Central just always. It can be windy, can be hot, I don't know, it's apparently been much cool. You saw the Men's finish was downright cool, but the Massif Central is just this mysterious place that can. The pavement's slow even though it's a flat day. Just the bikes don't roll the same and it ends up always being harder than you expected it to be. But if you look at the profile, pretty uneventful. One kom sprint. No, no. Green jersey sprint. How is that?
Allison Tetrick
That's weird.
Lance Armstrong
Wait, so we're missing that.
Mari Holden
I think you're missing that.
Allison Tetrick
I think there's only one.
Lance Armstrong
Gabrielle's going down to my second favorite, Costa Rican. Now that's. That was a joke. That was a joke, Gabriel. No, there is.
Mari Holden
There is.
Lance Armstrong
There is one sprint. All right. That we. We had the wrong with, you know. Yeah. 30 miles.
Mari Holden
But it's going to be a similar probably stage to today. So.
Lance Armstrong
Lorena Webis.
Mari Holden
Lorena Webis day. Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
Hopefully with no crashes.
Mari Holden
Yep. And, you know, I mean, hopefully, Balsamo, we get a good sprint tomorrow. I wanted to say today we also. Megan Jazz Strap was up there. One of our Americans.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah. Fourth place.
Mari Holden
Yeah. Fourth place.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah.
Mari Holden
Great result. Young.
Lance Armstrong
We were curious what the. What the highest sprint finish is for an American.
Mari Holden
And I don't think that an American has been on the podium at the Tour de France.
Allison Tetrick
We needed to double check that. Yeah, I don't think so.
Mari Holden
In a stage. Sorry. We know for sure. Not in the. In the gc, but I don't think we've had. In a stage.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah. And Megan was doing a lead out for one of my former teammates for Kelly, and she stayed on it, and I think she saw our opening, she moved right and she went. And I think fourth place is awesome for her. And she's nipping at that podium. I think tomorrow might be a good day.
Lance Armstrong
It's always cool when they put up the. At the end of the coverage, they put up the. The stage results and the GC results and just see, you know, see stars bars up there. That's what caught our attention. I was like, Megan.
Allison Tetrick
I know. We're like, go, Megan.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah, baby.
Allison Tetrick
And tomorrow's finish, I think it's supposed to be a little more straightforward. It's not supposed to be as hectic. It is the identical 5K to the finish that the Tour de France did in 2020, where Caleb Ewan won. So I think it's a little more straightforward, which also can be a little more risky, too. Why? It's big roads and straightforward in the.
Lance Armstrong
Corner where Demi crashed today. I don't. I mean, it was kind of the first sharp Ish corner in the last 5k, but that wasn't the corner that we expected to watch out for. I mean, that was so who knows, right? Yeah, there are some corners.
Allison Tetrick
I think it was supposed to be a little wider. It has hosted four Tour de France finishes. First one in 1955, and a fun one 1978. Sean Kelly won there, too.
Lance Armstrong
Wow.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah. And where we start? Steven roesch won a TT and Marcel Kittle won in 2016. I miss Marcel Kittle's hair.
Lance Armstrong
It on. Is it on the. Where do you find all.
Allison Tetrick
No, no, no. You know, Liz and I. Liz and I do our research at night in the bunk house. You know, we go through the. The media kits and the documents and. I mean, you think we're just hanging out, watching romcoms.
Lance Armstrong
We're working Love Island. Do you all watch that? Do y' all watch Love Island? Oh, let me tell you something. This is. This is the worst show ever in the history of the world. I'm not kidding.
Allison Tetrick
You just want to be on it.
Lance Armstrong
No, I don't.
Allison Tetrick
You want me to bring up Stars for Mars again?
Lance Armstrong
I'll tell you what, if I ever did want to be on it, one of y' all can go tell my wife that I want to be on it, because I'm not telling you.
Mari Holden
That can be awful.
Lance Armstrong
I'm surprised y' all don't watch. Fun questions. Some of these are just whoppers. And I don't know if maybe the commentators were talking about this, but they were talking about Shabby's position on the bike. I don't know if we were. We were talking about Shabby and that she's not too shabby. I think this was probably from the main coverage, but do bike manufacturers adjust frame geometry for female cyclists? And if not, how do teams adjust fitting bikes for female riders? That's from Lewis. That's a good question.
Allison Tetrick
It depends on the bike brands, whether they. Not they. Whether or not they have female specific frames. I do know a lot about this, though, because on the geometry side of things, I think ultimately it's touch points because you can have shorter men with longer torsos. I mean, women tend to have a lot longer legs, shorter torsos, they tend to be smaller frames, narrow shoulders. But ultimately, my opinion is the geometry is for the. Those touch points. And that should be pretty gender. Not gender specific until you're thinking about.
Lance Armstrong
Saddles and stem length, bar width. You can even adjust seat posts a little bit. There's.
Mari Holden
And reach.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
So that is the customization. Right? That double triangle Is pretty. Pretty standard as they come off the. The. The production line.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah. And you have different geometries. You know. You know, for our bikes, like, I like, I have a Roubaix versus a tarmac. So, you know, a more endurance bike versus a gravel bike versus a aero bike. But ultimately, I think you can fit anybody on it by adjusting stem length, saddle height, bar width. And then, of course, I'm a huge into. The saddles are very important for women, so. But yeah.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah. And men.
Allison Tetrick
Oh, for sure.
Lance Armstrong
Men don't sit on those. You know what? All right, well, you think it's gotten seedy now? Here, wait for this one. All right, this comes in from Ty. This is Ty.
Mari Holden
We'll let Ali answer this one.
Lance Armstrong
T y. All right. I don't even know if it's a question. Don't you think it's funny that the stage winners in the Tudor France, fan of ex Swift, get a stuffed beaver as a prize. Now, Ty, you're a sick individual, and we love you.
Mari Holden
I didn't know that, but I didn't know that either. I mean, I haven't seen.
Allison Tetrick
The Tour de France has the little lion. I don't know if the little lion has a name, but when you win a stage at the Tour de France, Fameque Zwift. Insert Zwift. They have a mascot. His name is Scotty the squirrel. So it is a squirrel, not a beaver.
Mari Holden
It's a squirrel, not a beaver.
Allison Tetrick
And when you. When you're on Zwift with your. In the digital world there, you can see Scotty living around virtually. So it's Scotty.
Lance Armstrong
Right. But so it's not a beaver.
Allison Tetrick
It's not a beaver.
Mari Holden
It's a squirrel.
Lance Armstrong
All right, Ty.
Mari Holden
I wish there's a good answer for.
Lance Armstrong
That, because this guy Ty is a sicko.
Allison Tetrick
He's gonna fit right in. He's gonna fit right in.
Lance Armstrong
I have a feeling he knew it was a squirrel, but he kind of. He kind of squinted and said it could be a beaver. So I'm gonna ask this question.
Mari Holden
And he wanted to test you on this.
Lance Armstrong
And he was like, I'm definitely getting my question. This is another great question from Nico. How do the watts per kilogram for top women's riders compare to the top men's riders? As we looked at this question earlier, we thought, well, let's have some fun with it too and talk about Lorena Webus in max Sprint power. So if you think let's break, I'll let y' all answer, but break it up into sort of GC riders watts per kilo. And then let's talk about. And we think we have a pretty accurate number on what Lorena Webis was doing. And for example, in today's Sprint, how do those compare?
Allison Tetrick
Well, I think on Webis, I know I actually answered you, Lance. And then I looked it up and I was within 20 watts.
Lance Armstrong
Okay.
Allison Tetrick
So she's going to sprint around 1250 watts, but she can peak up to 1400 watts, which is incredible. Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
That's insane.
Mari Holden
Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
Folks, if you have a power meter, just go on out the neighborhood. I recommend you get a little warmed up. Go sprint around for a little. Let me know your watts.
Allison Tetrick
I'm a big rider. I could do 1100, but I would have to come at from like far. And that's when I knew I was race fit. But I'm not. I'm not light. So what.
Mari Holden
How. How much does Lorena weigh? Do you think?
Allison Tetrick
I did look that up. But give me a second. You can talk about what's for the climbers.
Lance Armstrong
Gcw.
Mari Holden
I'm not sure what the. What. What is your guess?
Lance Armstrong
I mean, I don't.
Mari Holden
I tried to reach out to get what they were.
Lance Armstrong
Actually, this is. We could. We could get an answer on this from. From Spencer. I mean, it's all based on. You just have to. Maybe we can even find out their weight. The weight of the bike and just look at the times. But that is a good question from Nico on. On that we can. And of course we got to wait till mountains.
Mari Holden
Yeah.
Allison Tetrick
So calculating Levis's weight versus her power. Power when she's sprinting, she's actually sprinting in at 11.9 watts per kilo. Wow, that's impressive.
Lance Armstrong
Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious on the GC stuff.
Allison Tetrick
Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
It's like on the Matalan, et cetera. Big climbs like that. What it is. We'll get you answer, Nico.
Allison Tetrick
I'm guessing it's around five and a half watts is my. When they're on the long climbs, which is also filthy. Yeah, I think it's. That'd be my gut. But we can run those numbers. We just got that question now.
Mari Holden
So I feel like in our first year we were trying to figure out what animeques were and it was higher than that. So I think we need to definitely dig into it.
Allison Tetrick
We can geek out.
Mari Holden
Yeah.
Lance Armstrong
Well, we have more. We'll save some of these for tomorrow because we're running up on time. Because I just got a note from team back here. And so we'll just leave the audience with this. Well, actually, we're going to leave them with what we always leave them with. But, Ty, just for you.
Allison Tetrick
Oh, there's Scotty.
Lance Armstrong
Let me tell you something.
Mari Holden
He's got the hat tie.
Lance Armstrong
There is no doubt in my mind that that's a squirrel. That is. That is a squirrel. No. Part of me thought that was a beaver. It's a tie. It's confirmed. You are a sicko. You're a sick individual. Cool. Well, thanks for tuning in. We'll be back tomorrow for stage four. See if Lorena webis can do it again.
Allison Tetrick
And send in your questions and get some.
Lance Armstrong
And keep. Yeah, keep the questions coming. Yeah, except for you, ty. Info@wedo.team. all right, we'll see you all tomorrow. And on three, two, one. Bye.
THEMOVE Podcast Episode Summary
Title: Wiebes Takes the Sprint & Vollering Crashes | Tour de France 2025 Stage 3 | THEMOVE Femmes
Host: Lance Armstrong
Release Date: July 28, 2025
In this episode of THEMOVE Femmes, host Lance Armstrong delves deep into the dramatic happenings of Stage 3 of the Tour de France 2025. Joined by cycling legend Mari Holden and Olympic medalist Allison Tetrick, the trio provides an insider's perspective on the race's pivotal moments, team strategies, and emerging challenges within the peloton.
The episode opens with a celebration of Lorena Weavis's impressive performance. Despite not winning a stage in the previous two years, Weavis dominated today's sprint finish, affirming her status as a formidable sprinter.
Lance emphasizes the significance of Weavis's win for her team, SD Works, highlighting how critical such victories are for team morale and strategy.
A major focus of the discussion revolves around the crash involving Demi Vollering. As the race neared its conclusion, Vollering was caught in a severe crash that left spectators concerned about her well-being.
Mari provides a detailed account of the incident, noting the technical nature of the roads and the tight turn that likely contributed to the mishap.
Despite the crash, Vollering managed to finish the stage, albeit less efficiently, raising questions about her future in the race.
The crash had significant repercussions for the General Classification, with the yellow jersey now resting on Kim Lacourt's shoulders, albeit narrowly based on average finish positions.
Lance discusses the competitive nature of the GC, emphasizing how every second counts and how Vollering's time bonus from securing second place influences the standings.
Mari and Allison analyze the tactical decisions made by teams, questioning whether Vollering's aggressive tactics were strategic or merely energy-wasting moves.
SD Works showcased exceptional teamwork, securing vital stage victories and maintaining control over key race segments. Their ability to manage sprinters and climbers effectively has been a cornerstone of their success.
The departure of Vollering and the performance of Team FDJ highlight the challenges teams face when balancing sprint capabilities with climbing prowess.
A recurring issue in this Tour de France has been the spread of a stomach bug within the peloton, affecting multiple riders and disrupting team strategies.
Allison and Mari discuss firsthand observations of how the bug has impacted riders, including DNS (Did Not Start) statuses and rider health.
Listener Lewis posed a question about whether bike manufacturers adjust frame geometry specifically for female cyclists. The hosts provide a comprehensive answer, emphasizing the importance of customization through touch points rather than entirely gender-specific frames.
Listener Nico inquires about the power output differences between top female and male cyclists. The hosts break down the impressive numbers, highlighting Lorena Weavis's sprint power.
Mari and Lance contemplate the implications of these metrics on race strategies and training methodologies.
Looking ahead to Stage 4, the hosts anticipate a similar flat terrain with potential wind challenges. The stage is expected to conclude with a sprint finish identical to the 2020 Tour de France, where Caleb Ewan triumphed.
They express hope for fewer crashes and discuss the potential for another strong performance from Weavis.
Lance Armstrong on Vollering's Crash:
"Once the legs get moving. And then I personally think it's better to get up as soon as you can and not let the... anything." [06:14]
Mari Holden on Race Tactics:
"Why do these little jumps that are going to take away your energy?" [17:39]
Allison Tetrick on Weavis’s Performance:
"It's a pretty accurate number on what Lorena Weavis was doing." [27:53]
This episode of THEMOVE Femmes offers a comprehensive look into the high-stakes world of women's cycling during the Tour de France 2025. From thrilling sprint victories and shocking crashes to the intricate dynamics of team strategies and the physical toll on athletes, host Lance Armstrong and his guests provide listeners with an in-depth analysis and insider knowledge. As the race progresses, THEMOVE continues to transform fans into ultimate insiders, offering unparalleled access to the triumphs and tribulations of elite cycling.
For more insights and detailed analyses, tune into the next episode of THEMOVE as the Tour de France continues to unfold.