Session 104: Jake's Birthday w/ Brett!

Summary

Therapuss with Jake Shane

Episode: Session 104: Jake's Birthday w/ Brett!
Date: October 30, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this special birthday episode of Therapuss, Jake Shane celebrates turning 26 alongside his close friend Brett. It's the penultimate episode of Season 2—a season Jake reflects on with heartfelt gratitude for the unexpected success and major guests, including Selena Gomez and Lorde. The conversation is intimate and full of friendship, featuring everything from marathon struggles and music deep-dives to advice on submissions from listeners. The episode’s tone is candid, self-aware, humorous, and, above all, rooted in connection—with Jake’s audience, his friends, and himself.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflections on Turning 26 & Birthdays

• Jake’s Changing Attitude Towards Birthdays

  • Jake shares he’s feeling “old” and more emotional about birthdays, not enjoying them as much as when he was younger, but appreciating the love from friends and the community:

    "I feel old. I officially. I'm not sure I enjoy my birthday anymore. I was, like, emotional yesterday. Love presents. Got a few great ones ... But I think birthdays are just a little stressful sometimes." (03:34)

  • He describes the stress of wanting the next year to be as good as (or better than) the last one.
  • Jake highlights how he celebrates his birthday through music, marking each year with a specific playlist to document his journey—his "favorite part" of each birthday.

• Brett’s Perspective on Jake’s Birthday Traditions

  • Brett teases Jake about how he used to want surprises for his birthdays, but was never actually surprised.
  • The conversation shifts to their plans—a relaxed weekend with shopping and workouts—which contrasts with previous years' expectations.
  • Touches on the importance of showing up and making time for friends.

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2. Brett's Marathon Experience

• The Realities Behind “Perfect” Social Media Moments

  • Brett recounts her recent marathon, where things went wrong (“tears for a while”), but chose to “make content out of it”—a philosophy she credits to Jake:

    "I learned this from Jake: everything that happens to you is content." (06:57)

  • She openly discusses the disappointment of not meeting expectations, dealing with unexpected cramps (suspected to be anxiety-related), and the challenges of marathon training.

• Vulnerability as Inspiration

  • Brett reflects:

    "A lot of people were saying, ‘this is more inspiring than if you had the perfect race,’ which made me feel good." (07:36)

  • Jake and Brett both discuss the importance of showing the 'downs' as well as the 'ups' to foster real community.

• Friendship in Hard Moments

  • Heartwarming description of Max (Brett’s partner) jumping into the race to support her, which helped her finish.

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3. Pop Culture Deep-Dives

a. Louvre Robbery Hot Takes ([12:31–19:55])

• Jake and Brett are fascinated by news of a jewel heist at the Louvre, teasing out pop-culture references (“this is so Ocean’s 8!”), discussing conspiracy theories (inside job? black market? secret billionaire?), and riffing on how the robbers might be living it up in a Parisian loft.
• Jake imagines the robbers playing “Robbers” by The 1975 as their getaway song—full-on chills.
• Discussion about compiling their own "seven-minute getaway playlist," leading to spirited music picks.

b. Music: Albums & Songs on Repeat

• Lily Allen’s New Album “West End Girl” ([25:58–30:24])
  • Jake passionately summarizes the album’s themes (divorce, vulnerability, starting over, explicit honesty), its matter-of-fact British lyricism, and how it's “melodrama for divorced 40-year-olds”—but still relatable to him at 26.
  • Notable moment:

    “I’m not divorced or 40 and I felt like I was both.” (30:11)

• Discussion of “Showgirl” Album ([30:26–33:01])
  • Both gush about their favorite tracks (“Fatal Ophelia,” “Father Figure,” “Elizabeth Taylor”), analyzing specific lyrics and Internet discourse about their meanings.
• Bon Iver’s “Sable Fable” ([33:15–35:51])
  • Jake shares how the album has been a lifeline for him this year, moving through darkness to hope.
  • Reads lyrics aloud to Brett, expressing how music helps process feelings.

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4. Community & Running Jokes

• Explanation of their in-group phrase “it’s tears” for describing anything negative, taking over from the word “boof.”
• Fun with internet trends—“group seven” mystique on TikTok.
• Jake and Brett’s comfort in leaning into their quirks and ongoing banter.

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5. Listener Advice – “Tell Me What’s Wrong” Segment ([49:59–61:49])

Jake and Brett field submissions with honesty, humor, and musical prescriptions. Advice is often tough-love, grounded, and pop-culture-savvy. Highlights:

• Overwhelming Public Proposal: “If you’re not there, you’re not there… that claustrophobia was physical and mental.” (50:59)
• Boyfriend bored, searching Reddit: “That’s not your husband… you don’t deserve a guy searching how to handle being bored with you.” (51:34)
• Roommate boundary issues: “That’s not normal and that’s really weird.” (52:37)
• Navigating adulthood post-college: “There is no meantime, you kind of need to grow up... especially being comfortable alone.” (54:13)
• Family secrets—a hidden brother: “At a certain age you realize parents are just grown up children… and it’s the worst” and “you have to give your mom a little grace… two things can be true: betrayal and still family.” (58:24)
• Uncle starting cult on inherited farm: “You can’t let your uncle start a cult,” urging intervention (60:35), with a morbidly funny aside about how it’d make a good documentary.

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6. Personal Milestones & Growth

• Jake opens up about personal growth: working out, healthy eating, mental health, the transformative power of journaling, and insecurities linked to feeling outside “the pretty person club.”
• Brett expresses intent to start journaling, too; both connect over the process of writing and self-reflection.
• They discuss routines and systems (“go to girls”) that helped over the last year.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Everything that happens to you is content.”
  — Brett, crediting Jake (06:57)
• “If they can rob the Louvre in seven minutes, I can do anything. I can walk on the treadmill for seven minutes. I can read a book for seven minutes.”
  — Jake (19:38)
• “People are calling it the melodrama for divorced 40 year olds. It is seriously amazing. I’m not divorced or 40 and I felt like I was both.”
  — Jake on Lily Allen’s album (30:11)
• “I think I realized I lost my journal and then I was like, I should probably start writing it down. All the best creatives write stuff down. I should start journaling.”
  — Jake (39:56)
• “Number one, but I never had two—I think she’s saying she’s never had a partner to share in her success. ... Or maybe she’s just literally never been number two.”
  — Jake & Brett break down a lyric (31:31)
• “At a certain point you realize your parents are just grown-up children.”
  — Jake, on family secrets (58:24)

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Important Timestamps

• Jake reflects on the podcast’s success & birthday traditions: 00:13–03:40
• Birthday weekend plans & friendship: 04:52–05:54
• Brett’s marathon experience & lessons: 06:01–10:49
• Discussion about the Louvre jewel heist: 12:31–19:55
• Music: constructing a ‘seven-minute heist playlist’ 20:53–25:47
• Lily Allen & album breakdown: 25:58–30:24
• Favorite songs from ‘Showgirl’ & lyric analysis: 30:32–33:01
• Bon Iver’s ‘Sable Fable’ & the power of music: 33:15–35:51
• Mental health, fitness, and journaling: 38:02–41:23
• Explanation of “it’s tears”: 43:29–44:06
• Tell Me What’s Wrong – listener advice segment: 49:59–61:49
• Season reflections & final thoughts: 47:38, 63:19

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Key Takeaways

• Radical Vulnerability: Jake’s comfort in sharing his insecurities, growth, struggles, and wins makes the episode deeply relatable.
• Real Friendship: The banter between Jake and Brett is a testament to the importance of showing up, supporting each other, and being honest.
• Honest Advice: Listener submissions are handled with kindness, directness, and humor—never sugarcoated, often paired with song recommendations.
• Pop Culture & Music Obsession: The show is as much therapy as it is a playground for Gen Z and millennial pop culture references, music critiques, and viral lingo.

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Closing

As Jake prepares for the season finale and contemplates the next chapter, the warmth, humor, and authenticity of this penultimate episode shine. It’s a heartfelt look at friendship, the messiness of life, and the role that music, community, and honesty play in getting through it all—birthdays, tears, and all.

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Listen for—

• The detailed “Tell Me What’s Wrong” advice—each problem is dissected humorously and empathetically
• The music deep-dives and enthusiastic storytelling about album highlights
• Candid conversations about the behind-the-scenes reality of adulthood, anxiety, and growth
• The special birthday celebration for Jake, capped off by a heartfelt happy birthday from his friends

Transcript

[Brett]

Now our son's new girlfriend is a former student.

[Louise]

Don't miss anniversary.

[Brett]

You know, I used to be afraid of you. I don't think I am anymore.

[Louise]

Starring Diane Lane and Kyle Chandler. We need to be careful.

[Brett]

She's trying to obliterate us.

[Louise]

Anniversary. Rated R. Hi, pussies. And welcome back to Therapist. Tonight is the penultimate episode, the week before our season finale. And wow, this season has been. I mean, I don't. I. All I do is I think about to the first time I really thought about doing this podcast. If you would have told me at that time that I would have had Selena Gomez or Lord on my show, like, I. I'm pretty delusional, but I think I would have laughed in your face. And the fact that it has happened this season has just been a dream come true. And it's really all because of you guys. It really, really is. This season. I don't know what I expected after season one because season one was so insane to me, but this one just shattered everything that I thought it was going to be in the best way possible. I thought for the penultimate episode we would have bread on because we both have been through so much this past year, this past season, and I thought it would be nice to have a friend on. But for our big season finale, which I'm really, really excited about. Brett talks about her marathon. I talk about the music I'm listening to. Obviously. We talk about Showgirl. I would just. I would just like to also point out that in my previous Brett episode, I guessed the melody of Elizabeth Taylor. Have you heard this? Can Nolan, please will you take a moment to show how this. I know it will be amazing. Elizabeth Taylor.

[Brett]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Louise]

But, like, I don't know how she can say Elizabeth Taylor. Like, I literally. I guessed it and it was like every. How insane is that? It's crazy. This is also my birthday episode. I am recording this the day after my birthday. This intro. I am 26 now. If you would like to follow along my musical journey of the year, my 26 playlist has begun on Spotify. My 25 one just finished. It's like my favorite part of my birthday is always finishing my playlist for the year. I've done it since I was 22. I did so I did USC. That's from ages 18 to 22. And then once I hit 22, I did 22, 23, 24, 25. And now I'm 26, my fifth year doing it. It's crazy. It's honestly, it's really nice to, like, look back on the year and be like, oh, my God. This is what I was listening to musically. And it also was, like, a weird depiction of how fast the year goes by. Like, for this year, like, I look at the top of my 25 playlist, and I'm like, how was that a year ago? But, yeah, I'm 26. I feel old. I officially. I'm not sure I enjoy my birthday anymore. I was, like, emotional yesterday. Love presence. Got a few great ones. I'm really pumped about it. A few great texts, you know, like. But I think birthdays are just a little stressful sometimes. All my friends dressed up as me and surprised me with a hibachi dinner. It was amazing. My lifelong dream of going on Lost Culturistas has come true. And that episode is out now as well, with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. I got to do my. I don't think so, honey. Which I'm pretty proud of. I listened to it and I'm pretty proud of it. I was really nervous. I was, like, pretty proud of it. It was Louise's Roman Empire. They shouted out Louise during the podcast. Yeah, she loved it. Okay, well, yeah, I'm excited for. I mean, you. Every year, I always get very anxious on my birthday, especially when I have a good year before, because I'm always like, okay, is it time now for things? Is it going to be bad? Really? Just like, that feeling of, like, okay, I want to celebrate the good that. I'm so scared of it being bad. But I think as I grow older, when I get really anxious, I remind myself that, like, no matter what happens, like, I do have people around me that love me. And, like, that does include you guys. And so I think it's a testament to the community we've built and my friends and my family. But, yeah, I'm really excited for you guys to hear the episode tonight. It's really fun. We talk about the Louvre robbery. We talk about Bonnie Vera's album, Lily Allen's album, which is amazing. Amazing. If you haven't heard Lily Allen's album, please go listen. And we obviously talk about life of a showgirl, which we have on repeat all day in this household. I tell you my top three favorite songs, which have not changed, but I will. I would like. I didn't say this at the time, and I would like to say this. I think the hook on Elizabeth Taylor makes it one of the best pop songs of the year. That hook is irresistible. Be my NY When Hollywood hates me Only as hot as your Last hit, baby. To submit Tell Me what's wrongs, go to passthatpost.com and click Tell Me what's Wrong. Leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy and enjoy the episode. Love you. Hi. Welcome back to Therapists on a Special. This is my special birthday episode. I wouldn't consider myself a big birthday diva.

[Brett]

No, but you would always have us plan your birthday in college. And he always wanted a surprise.

[Louise]

And do you want to know why I'm not doing anything this year?

[Brett]

Because you were never surprised.

[Louise]

No one planned to be a surprise.

[Brett]

Well, you didn't say you were saying.

[Louise]

You took off the weekend for me, which is actually, like, I was aghast. Or is that the word? Like, I was shocked.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

When you said that you would do that, you took off both Saturday and Sunday for me.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

You're doing things you, like, actively don't want to do.

[Brett]

Yeah, but I want to spend time with you.

[Louise]

No, I know.

[Brett]

We're gonna have fun because it's your birthday weekend.

[Louise]

I want to just go shopping.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

I would like to work out Saturday morning.

[Brett]

Yeah. Or I remember going to Pilates.

[Louise]

You don't want to do the run club that Louie wants us to do?

[Brett]

I forgot about that.

[Louise]

Well, honestly, I might be hungover. I have a birthday party the night before.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

So, like, maybe I'll just sleep in.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

I get an iv.

[Brett]

Yeah, why don't you do that?

[Louise]

Why don't I just. Yeah. Yeah. So we have a lot of things to talk about today.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

First, do you want to get into your marathon?

[Brett]

I mean, sure.

[Louise]

Why not? Okay. Cramp, cramp, cramp, cramp, cramp. Ow, ow, ow, ow, ow.

[Brett]

Are you acting?

[Louise]

Yeah, I've been practicing my acting.

[Brett]

I only knew that. Cuz. You just did it.

[Louise]

I just did it. Did you believe it?

[Brett]

Yeah, it was good.

[Louise]

Really? You actually believed it?

[Brett]

Yeah. I had no reason to think you were acting.

[Louise]

Okay. So I've been. I've been practicing my acting. Okay.

[Brett]

That was really good. The marathon weekend, overall, I would say was a success in that my run club was so great. But then the race itself was actually horrible.

[Louise]

I knew when she started posting insta stories halfway through that it was just.

[Brett]

It was. It had been tears for a while, and I was like, you know what? And I. I learned this from you. We can cut this out if you don't want to end by.

[Louise]

No, I know what you're going to say, and I. I would openly say that.

[Brett]

Okay. I learned this from Jake. Everything that happens to you Is content.

[Louise]

It's just your life. Okay. It really is. And I looked good or bad.

[Brett]

I definitely was upset. You were upset that it was going so poorly, but I was like, you know what? I'm going to get my phone out and I'm going to make a TikTok during the race, and I'm going to lift my head up and finish this thing. But it was.

[Louise]

It was really bleak because it was inspiring for people. I think in that moment. Yeah, it was content, but it was also like. Like, you. It was like you were like, you know, like, you were like. It was inspiring to see you keep going.

[Brett]

Thank you.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I think it's important to show the ups and downs because of running, because, like, for, like, a lot of people, they make every marathon seem like all rainbows and butterflies and, like, it's just, like, straight up not. And now I've had to go literally, horribly. And it's definitely defeating, but it's important to show. And a lot of people were saying, like, this is more inspiring than if you had the perfect race, which, like, made me feel good, but it is. I definitely wanted to, like, reach my goal, but that's okay. Next time maybe. But then it's like, I don't want to put a lot of pressure on next time.

[Louise]

Okay. And so what happened was you got a cramp.

[Brett]

Yeah. But it wasn't like a running cramp. It was stomach. And I have never dealt with stomach issues like that on runs.

[Louise]

I think it was anxiety.

[Brett]

I've never had anxiety that way.

[Louise]

I know, but I. It's just my theory. I think you were really anxious. You kept bringing up the word anxiety to me. You were like. I was doing six and a half minute miles, and I was getting a little anxious about it, and then I was gonna slow down.

[Brett]

I was anxious. But I've never let mental stuff like that get to me in races. And I know running a really long.

[Louise]

Time, but your body changes as, you know. Oh. Get older and, like.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Manifest in different ways.

[Brett]

Yeah. But the only thing was, like, my stomach was literally, like, protruding. You know, when your stomach, like, protrudes when it hurts, like. Yeah, that's what it. That's what it was that I said to Max. I was like, feel my stomach. And when he was running with me.

[Louise]

That was so sweet.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

He really had a sweater and it was hot out.

[Brett]

He. Yeah, he sprung into action. If anyone's wondering, like, what happened. Basically, I got to mile, like, 21, and I, like, I see Jake and people, and I'm like, Where's it on video?

[Louise]

I actually, you know what? Why don't we take five seconds to show the video? You look at me, I go, yay, Brad. You go, where's Max? Yeah, because Max, Cuz you had texted. So basically we were in. I think we were in Chinatown. We were waiting for you. And Max said, oh, no. And I said, what? He just showed me. He didn't show anyone else. And he said, he showed me the text from Brett. Two words. It's tears. That was a hit. That's all she said. And I said, okay, she's probably being dramatic. Like, we're just like, not gonna, like, just tell her to keep going. Like, it'll be fine. I obviously had no idea what was happening. As soon as I opened my Instagram and saw her post Instagram stories of.

[Brett]

Her, you were like, oh, it's over.

[Louise]

I said, oh, like, there's no way she'd be posting Instagram stories if she. Like, something must have happened. And then I was like, you know what? Like, let me just keep encouraging. Whatever. So it's like, let's go, let's go. She said, where's Max? I said, oh.

[Brett]

So he jumped into the race with me and then just. He wasn't planning to run four miles with me. It just ended up happening. And I. I needed that, you know, moral support.

[Louise]

You almost dropped out of the race.

[Brett]

Yeah, I thought about it, but then I was like, I can't quit. I can't quit. I gotta.

[Louise]

Even if you watch.

[Brett]

Even if I did, I did walk some of it.

[Louise]

That's just so crazy. That never happens to you.

[Brett]

It's never happened.

[Louise]

And it was a fluke. It must have been just a fluke.

[Brett]

It was a fluke. And I was in my best sh. Ever. So it was just like a little bit upsetting because you put so much time and effort into marathon training. And like, if race day doesn't go your way, like, that's just like, kind of that.

[Louise]

Yeah. Then we had a great dinner that night.

[Brett]

Yeah. And like, overall, you know, you live and you learn.

[Louise]

We went to the Lake Forest Starbucks.

[Brett]

Yeah. I showed Jake Lake Forest Shout Out. Lake Forest. He finally saw the hometown. And it is what it is.

[Louise]

But.

[Brett]

But, you know, I don't know what's next for me. Maybe I'll do a spring one. Maybe I won't. I don't know.

[Louise]

But you're not done running marathons, period.

[Brett]

No, no, no, of course not. Of course not. Yeah, but I just like, you know, I might need a break, but I Also might be like, eh, it on.

[Louise]

And I think when you're like, eh, it is when you just fly.

[Brett]

Yeah. I mean, it's still crazy that my first marathon was, like, my best time. And I think it's because.

[Louise]

Brett, we got home at. Well, actually, I just interrupted you.

[Brett]

Oh, it's okay.

[Louise]

What were you gonna say?

[Brett]

I was just gonna say, like, I think that that's kind of a testament to, like, I was kind of just like, oh, like, let's just do this. And, like, now I kind of have more expectations on myself. Not even external, but, like, on myself, because I know I'm capable of more. So I don't know. I'm gonna have to change my mindset with my next one, but that's okay.

[Louise]

But it's just also funny because, like, that night, it's not even. Like, you were in complete silence in your room. Like, me, I got home from the night out at five in the morning that night, and, like, was loud. Well, no, it wasn't that night, that first Los Angeles marathon.

[Brett]

No, you were still out, and I FaceTimed you when you and Peyton were still out.

[Louise]

Oh. Oh. So we really didn't wake you up. We just were out.

[Brett]

You didn't wake me up. Yeah, you were out, and then you came back, and then that's when I didn't sleep.

[Louise]

So what should we talk about? There were so many things.

[Brett]

Okay. The Louvre.

[Louise]

Let's talk about the loof.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Because this is coming out next week. It's not my birthday yet. Contrary to.

[Brett]

It's almost your birthday.

[Louise]

It's almost my birthday. Actually, the day after this, I'll be 26. So the day this is out, I'll already be 26. Okay, so let's talk about the Louvre.

[Brett]

Okay. Do you. Do you want me to go? Like, do you have thoughts? Like.

[Louise]

I think.

[Brett]

Here's the thing that's so crazy. Who the is stealing those jewels?

[Louise]

I think it's so awesome. I think it's so awesome.

[Brett]

Like, they did that and, like, you.

[Louise]

Know, they're selling that on, like, the black. Black, black market.

[Brett]

Like, you think?

[Louise]

Yes. Like, they obviously are you.

[Brett]

No, but have you seen some theories? There are some theories that, like, a billionaire commissioned it, like, because they wanted them.

[Louise]

That feels like a really.

[Brett]

There was a theory that it was like, a French inside job because the French government is bankrupt. Crazy.

[Louise]

Wait, okay, so tell me more about that, because how would these jewels help the French government?

[Brett]

They. They would somehow have to sell them to someone. And then I think it.

[Louise]

I. I don't caught them, These people?

[Brett]

No, and I don't want them to. But, like, I bet I was, like, thinking last night, like, do you think they, like, are on the Internet, like, seeing, like, everyone, like, fangirl over them?

[Louise]

No, because I think anybody as smart as them to pull off what they did are not on TikTok.

[Brett]

1,000%, but, like, I don't know, Like, I think.

[Louise]

They are, like, reading bucks. Yeah.

[Brett]

But, like, you know what the crazy thing was about that crime? It was very Oceans 8. But, like, in Ocean State, they aren't that smart. They're kind of just, like, savvy, you know? So it's like. Like, they didn't do anything because it's a movie. Crazy. No, no, no. Like, what do you mean? Well, like, in Oceans 8, like, the people doing. Have you seen it?

[Louise]

No. Sorry I was rude.

[Brett]

That's okay. But, like, the heisters, like, they aren't brilliant. They're just, like, savvy and how they planned it. And I think that's how the Louvre people were.

[Louise]

What do you mean?

[Brett]

Like, it wasn't, like, rocket science. Like, they literally sawed through a window and, like, scaled a ladder, you know.

[Louise]

I guess maybe, like, the security at the Louvre just, like, wasn't as.

[Brett]

Apparently, it sucks. Apparently. Only, like, apparently 70, 75% of the Louvre like, doesn't have security cameras or something insane.

[Louise]

Just, like, just know and try it. I don't understand.

[Brett]

I guess just no one tries. That's also why people think it was an inside job.

[Louise]

Okay, so here's the reason. This is what I'm just a little confused about. On multiple fronts. They. Okay. And you know what? I'm gonna relate it to Task. So in Task, they get this, like, huge shipment of fentanyl, right. That he steals, and they're like, they can't sell it. They're. Yeah, because they're obviously these. The. The. The motorcycle gang is like, we are on the lookout for whoever's selling a pound of fentanyl.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

You know what I mean? Yeah. The same goes for this. It's like, hey, if anyone's selling these specific jewels from the Lou, like, obviously, we're gonna figure it out. It's like in Scandal when Olivia got kidnapped and then sells herself.

[Brett]

Oh, right.

[Louise]

I think I took it too far with that. But, like, I do. You know what I mean? Like, I don't see what their goal is here.

[Brett]

That's what I'm saying. Same.

[Louise]

Unless they, like, melt them down and, like, do some weird.

[Brett]

Did you hear they dropped. Dropped Something that they stole.

[Louise]

Shut up. Yeah.

[Brett]

Do you know that they dropped. So they got away with a lot. But they dropped a crown.

[Louise]

Oh yeah? What crown?

[Brett]

I forget. But they like, they got away on scooters and I think they were just.

[Louise]

No, they didn't.

[Brett]

Yeah, they did.

[Louise]

No, they did.

[Brett]

Yeah, they did.

[Louise]

No, they did not.

[Brett]

Yeah, they did.

[Louise]

Like what scooters?

[Brett]

I watched a New York Times video. They got away on scooters. Yeah. They had to be electrical.

[Louise]

Maybe they are on Tick Tock. I don't know. This is like crazy.

[Brett]

Why is it giving? Like they're like young or something.

[Louise]

I will say like the Tick Tock that gave me full body. Oh my God. It was seven minutes, right? The fact that. Do you know the song robbers by the 1975 that like the. Have you ever heard this song?

[Brett]

Probably.

[Louise]

These are the opening chords of Robbers the song is about. It's just. I don't think it's about robbers, but it's called Robbers and like, these are the opening chords of it. And like here if there was someone was like, imagine this is the first song that they listen to once they. I full body chills. Like we just stole from the Louvre.

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Louise]

Like, you know what I mean?

[Brett]

Yeah. Sick.

[Louise]

And like all credit goes to whoever the fuck posted that on TikTok.

[Brett]

I you going to check?

[Louise]

I'm going to check. But like somebody posted that on TikTok and said like, imagine like you leave the Louvre, you just committed a seven minute heist and like that's the first song you play.

[Brett]

I just love that like everyone is aligned. That like this is awesome.

[Louise]

Saint Laurent cowgirly love. Yeah. Also. Also, also the Louvre by Lord, like, they get home, they drink and then where the greatest?

[Brett]

Down the back, but who cares?

[Louise]

Wait, so what did they steal?

[Brett]

A bunch of like jewels. Like Napoleon's jewels.

[Louise]

Shut up.

[Brett]

Yes.

[Louise]

Oh my God. They are probably like. And doing drugs and like, I hope so. They probably feel like the.

[Brett]

Do you think they're gonna catch them? We may never know.

[Louise]

I think the mystique around who they are is so awesome.

[Brett]

Same. You're right. You're right.

[Louise]

There's any videos of this. Like, I imagine them like holds up in like a Paris loft, like, smoking cigarettes and like, like with these jewels, like one. One of them's getting a little cocky with it and like pouring the jewels on the bed. And the other one's like, hey, like, we gotta take this serious. And like one of them's like, way too cocky and then the other one's like, you know, they start to, like, kind of turn on each other and, like. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Do you know what I mean?

[Brett]

That was beautiful.

[Louise]

Like, someone's like, we're like. We're like. We're the kings of the world. And it's like, don't celebrate too soon. Like, we're not done with the plan yet. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's what I envision.

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Louise]

And then, like, that guy, and then there's obviously one person in the middle swinging to both sides of the spectrum. And, like, the guy's like, come on, Isn't he such a stick up his ass? Like, we just robbed the Louvre.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Like, do you know what I mean?

[Brett]

100. And I think one of them is, like, a beautiful woman.

[Louise]

Of course one of them is a beautiful woman, 1,000%. Preferably played by, like, Isla Fisher.

[Brett]

Love that. Love that.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah. This is totally gonna be a movie.

[Louise]

Of course. Seven minute Louvre heist. And by the way, if they can rob the Louv in seven minutes, I can do anything.

[Brett]

So true.

[Louise]

I can do anything.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

I can walk on the treadmill for seven minutes. I can read a book for seven minutes. I can.

[Brett]

And I think you should.

[Louise]

Now, hold on. No. Yeah. Wow. That joke was horrible.

[Brett]

What?

[Louise]

Now hold on.

[Brett]

It wasn't horrible.

[Louise]

It was pretty bad.

[Brett]

No, I'm just saying I thought it.

[Louise]

Was gonna be, you know.

[Brett]

Well, I didn't know if you were offended by me.

[Louise]

Offended by that? I should read a book. Yeah, I probably should. I don't read.

[Brett]

It's only because I also haven't been reading. And I picked up a book yesterday for the first time in a really long time, and it made me feel good.

[Louise]

What book?

[Brett]

It's called Just Another Missing Person.

[Louise]

Ew. Jesus Christ.

[Brett]

Well, you know, I only read thrillers.

[Louise]

Just Another Missing Person.

[Brett]

Yep.

[Louise]

Just another one of those.

[Brett]

Another one.

[Louise]

So we covered the Louvre. Anything we're missing about the Louvre?

[Brett]

I think that's it.

[Louise]

Okay, should we say what our three songs would be on our seven minute playlist?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Okay.

[Brett]

You go first.

[Louise]

Okay. I would go in to this song by Santi Gold. Shove it. I would go into Shove it by Santi Gold. That, like, I. That would be like, my, like, let's do this Thing song. Okay, so I guess that would be like, the first three minutes, and then the next four minutes would be, like, about leaving or three minutes.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Like, am I still hyped up at this point? Like. Right. Like, I'm not. I'm not out of the woods.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

I would then do out of the woods.

[Brett]

You have to.

[Louise]

Although part of me feels like it would give me anxiety, I still want to be like, let's do this thing.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

No, like, I'm trying to think of, like, someone that makes me feel confident. Like, when I listen to them, like, I feel confident.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And, like, I feel like I can. I'm on top of the world. There's a lot, like, Adela makes me feel confident. I don't know what my middle one is, but I know that I would end with robbers. I think I would do the Louvre than robbers.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

I think I just fully copied that Spotify playlist you sent me. No, but I swapped out one.

[Brett]

You swapped out one? Which I'm gonna use a song off that too, I think.

[Louise]

No, I don't think I would do the live because I would be like, oh, the loof said. Like, I think when I would hear that song, I'd be like, oh, it's so, like, monumental. Like, this place that I'm stealing from.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

I can't play any game. I take it too seriously.

[Brett]

A little, but that's okay.

[Louise]

You know what? What if I did, like, since you've been gone.

[Brett]

Love that.

[Louise]

No, I would get tired.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Do you guys have any ideas?

[Brett]

I'm thinking. I got one.

[Louise]

What? Yeah, I did it by Labyrinth.

[Brett]

Oh, have you heard that one?

[Louise]

He doesn't like it. He doesn't like it. You're awesome. You are awesome, Nolan.

[Brett]

Okay, what do you think?

[Louise]

You Shove it by Santi Gold. And then I would do. I love you, Nolan. Love you too. I would just shove it. Thank you. I would. You shove it by Santi Gold. And then I would. I mean, how many times have I said shove it by Santa?

[Brett]

10.

[Louise]

And then I would do. No. Yes.

[Brett]

We reference our. Because I need. I need a. I need an idea for my second one. Oh, I have such a good last one.

[Louise]

Okay, don't tell me yet. Okay, so I. Oh, my God. We all know my first one by now. And then I think I would do a song off of. Of Brat. I think I. I think I would do a song off of Brad. I. I'm very.360. I think I would do 365.

[Brett]

Yeah?

[Louise]

Yeah. Okay. I would do Shove it by Santi Gold365 by Charlie XCX, and I would leave to robbers by the 1975.

[Brett]

Okay. Do you want to hear mine?

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Okay. I would go in with Kids by mgmt.

[Louise]

Wow.

[Brett]

Yeah, I love that. Yeah. And then the middle song. This is the one that I'm like, iffy on, but I think I'm going to go with Paparazzi by Lady Gaga. Why, you don't like it?

[Louise]

No, I do. It's just slow. No, baby, you'll be fine.

[Brett]

Okay. Okay, you're right.

[Louise]

No, I'm not here to yuck your yum.

[Brett]

No, no, no, you're right. This is.

[Louise]

I want you to be hyped up. Like you have to get out of the loop.

[Brett]

Okay. Okay, then I'm doing. Ready for it.

[Louise]

Fudge me. Fuck me.

[Brett]

And you want to know what I'm fudgeing? Leaving to get away Car.

[Louise]

No. What?

[Brett]

Heaven takes you home by Swedish house Mafia. My God, is that one so good.

[Louise]

When heaven takes you home.

[Brett]

Anyway, I thought that one was okay.

[Louise]

That was so fun.

[Brett]

Yeah, that was fun.

[Louise]

Okay, well, shout out to the robbers at the Louvre. Maybe they're watching you guys really gave us something to connect over as a community.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Over these past few days.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

They're probably not watching therapists.

[Brett]

It's been that. Well, you never know. It's been that and Group seven, but we don't need to talk about that.

[Louise]

I'm not group seven.

[Brett]

It's okay.

[Louise]

Are you group seven? What the fuck? Are you group seven? The fuck is group seven? Of course you and I are both not group seven. It's okay dot so, like, this show. Okay. Just out of curiosity, this showed up on your for you page.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And it said you are group seven.

[Brett]

Yeah. And then there was all this shit about, like, being group seven.

[Louise]

No, I know. What are you bringing to recess today? Is that what people comment? Someone commented. Hey, what are you bringing to lunch? Yeah. I don't know. I'm 25.

[Brett]

I don't really know where it came from, but that's just been my free page.

[Louise]

Whatever.

[Brett]

Whatever. You wanted to talk about Lily Allen.

[Louise]

Oh, shall we? So are you gonna care about this? No.

[Brett]

Oh, kind of.

[Louise]

Okay. I love Lily Allen. Like, when I was in eighth grade, like, Lily Allen was, like, very. She released this album called Jesus and I loved Jesus.

[Brett]

See, like, I like hearing this stuff because, like, I don't know it.

[Louise]

Okay, so I really love Jesus. She also does like you. The fear would have known. Not fair. Like, she is a banger. She's ldn. I used to listen when I was like. Remember when I went to, like, drum when I went to London a few summers ago?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

We were Tiffan.

[Brett]

I was really gonna go with that.

[Louise]

Free. No, I know, but I, like, I listened to ldn, like on repeat.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

In London. Okay. Okay. So like, I love Lily Allen. And she was married to Dave. You'll be interested in this. She was married to David Hart or Dave harbor from Stranger Things.

[Brett]

They got divorced.

[Louise]

They got, they got divorced and it was messy. And this album is like insane. So the opening song. So the album's called West End Girl, right?

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

So the opening song is basically her being like, I, I. It's. So basically the way Lily Allen writes is very like, I don't know, it's very like, matter of fact.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

And it all rhymes. So it's like I'm walking down the street in my bicycle and a ricle called and, like, do you know what I mean? I like, do you know what I mean? But it like all like, makes sense. It's like, yeah, I went to go to dinner and then I finished her. Like, I don't really know, like, you know, it's. But she does it right. Like, it's very, like, blunt and like, London and like, cheeky.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And she does that on this album. But it's about divorce and it's like super fucking graphic. Like, she, like starts the song and she's like, I got a call. I woke up and they offered me a thing on West End. I was so excited. And then you came home for dinner and. And I told you and you laughed at me and said, no, I had to audition. And then I went. And then the song stops two. It's a four minute song. It stops two minutes in, two and a half minutes in. And you just hear doom. Like the answer of a FaceTime. And it's just her. You don't hear the other person. And it's like, I miss you. How are you? Oh. Oh. Insinuating like, he divorced her on FaceTime or, like, said that he needed space. And then the. Yes. And the rest of the album. The next song is called I think Ruminating, and it basically just ruminates on the beat, like over and over again. And it's about how she knows that he's seeing this other girl and she can't stop thinking about this other girl and she's ruminating on it and it's like. Then she goes home and they get together and she. He shows an Instagram post on his phone and she, like, he whisks the phone away after so that she goes through his text and finds someone named Madeline. The next song's called Madeline that. Yes. Like, it's. It's a really good album. It's like, objectively a Good album. And like, and then she starts talking about. She finds his butt plugs and all his sex toys. And like. Yes. And then she talks about how hard it is to date. Like, it's this. Oh my God, like, divorced mothers are going to gag, die, and throw up over this song. Like, it's basically like she says in the song. She's like, I'm 40 years old, I have two teenage kids. Like, does that interest you? Like, it's so hard for me to date. Like, how am I supposed to find love again?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And it's like a really, really vulnerable moving out. But I thought it was fantastic. Like, I listened to it all day today. It was so amazing. There's a part of the album where she tries to just like appease her ex husband and like, just change who she is. And it, it's. She. There's a song called Relapse where she talks about like, how she wants to relapse on Valium and, and drinking and like, I think maybe insinuates that she does. I don't really know. It's apparently was made in 10 days. It's. It's. It felt like you're like watching a movie, but it's an album.

[Brett]

Wow.

[Louise]

It's really good. It's like, really good. I. Me and Louise listen to it all day today. We were like super gagged. Okay. Yeah, it's great. It's great. And by the time this episode is out, if you haven't heard it, it is out now. This is not promo, like paid promo. West End Girl by Lily Allen. People are calling it the melodrama for divorced 40 year olds. It is seriously amazing. I. And by the way, I'm not divorced or 40 and I felt like I was both.

[Brett]

I'm like actually calling it that.

[Louise]

Yes. I read that in Paper magazine and it's. It's so good. Like, I can't emphasize enough how much how good it is. It is. So back to Lily Allen's roots.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Something else I've been listening to, in case you were wondering. Actually, wait. We haven't talked about Showgirl.

[Brett]

I was about to bring it.

[Louise]

Well, we have to talk about Showgirl.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Like, father Figure is one of my favorite songs she's ever written.

[Brett]

Father Figure is like so poetic and incredible.

[Louise]

It's amazing.

[Brett]

It's amazing.

[Louise]

So if you can't tell Brett and I really love the album.

[Brett]

It's all. I've been listening.

[Louise]

Like, I came downstairs and Brett was listening to Opalite. I listened to Fate of Ophelia. Every single morning on my way to. I listen to. I actually have an order that I go through. It's amazing. I love the album.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

What is your top three on Life of a Showgirl? Right now?

[Brett]

Okay. Right now. I mean, the fatal Ophelia. I don't care. Number one.

[Louise]

Oh, like, banger alert.

[Brett]

It is so fudgeing good. It is so fudgeing good to Father figure. And three right now is probably Elizabeth Taylor.

[Louise]

Same. That's actually my three, too.

[Brett]

Okay, perfect.

[Louise]

Elizabeth Taylor.

[Brett]

That beat job. Yeah.

[Louise]

Elizabeth Taylor.

[Brett]

Tell me for real. Do you think it's forever? But number one. But I never had to pause. What do you think she means by that line? Because there's been an Internet discourse about this. I have my thoughts.

[Louise]

Wait.

[Brett]

Been number one, but I never had two. I think she's saying. Obviously she's saying I've been number one, but people are like, what does she mean by the two part? And I think it means that she's never had a partner that she, like, genuinely can share in her success with.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

Do you agree? Do you agree? But other people are saying.

[Louise]

But number one, like, you know how. You know that thing in English class where people are like, the wall is blue, and then they're like, what does that mean?

[Brett]

Like a double entire.

[Louise]

I think she's, like, literally just being, like, talking her the number one, But I've never been number two, because she hasn't.

[Brett]

Oh, you. So you think that.

[Louise]

I think it's, like, quite literal.

[Brett]

Okay, that's valid.

[Louise]

I think it's quite literal. I think the one that is not literal is, like, father figure. I think that one deserves some, like, deep diving into.

[Brett]

Yeah, definitely.

[Louise]

I think Elizabeth Taylor is, like. She's, like, pretending. She. She's like this, like, old Hollywood. I think the entire album has these, like, mafioso themes. Do you know what I mean? Like, I think they. It does. Like, it has this theme of being like, this, like. Like, mob boss of a pop star.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And it's like she's, like, basking in her success. It's really cool.

[Brett]

It is really cool. And the Fatal Feeling music video is awesome.

[Louise]

What? Dare I say one of her best music videos of all time.

[Brett]

Agreed. Agreed.

[Louise]

In terms of other stuff I am listening to, as you can see in my shirt, I feel like I always come to our episodes. I think I'm gonna make this a thing. And I am a sucker for when I like an album. I will buy that merch.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And I have been listening to a lot of Bon Iver lately.

[Brett]

You really.

[Louise]

I don't know if they are for you. I don't think they are, but they are for me. And their album, Sable Fable, is genuinely probably my album of the year. Besides, like, Showgirl and Lord, and this is, like, probably the album that means the most to me. Wow. It's, like, very beautiful. So the first half. First half is Sable, and it's very, like, depressing and dark and moody. And then the last song on Sable is called Award Season, and it's like. Do you want me to read you some of the lyrics?

[Brett]

Yeah, I do.

[Louise]

Oh. But maybe things can change what can wax can wane Things can get replayed and if it's all the same oh, just take my hand and place it on your blame and let it wash away with you I will remain wow. So, like, let me take your hands Place your blame into my hands Right, right. And now a big wave Crashes over us all Gone is all Everything Washes away All your blame all your troubles Everything I'm still here yeah.

[Brett]

Oh, that's powerful.

[Louise]

So that's how that ends. And then the next song on the Fable side of the album is called Short Story, which is honestly probably my song of the year.

[Brett]

Really?

[Louise]

Yeah. It's unbelievable. And so. So it's. Oh, like. So basically it's like. Plays is like he's coming out of this, like, melancholy, dark, depressive state, and it's like. Like, very high keys on the piano, and he says, oh, the vibrant sun in my eyes. Like, he's, like, coming out and, like, seeing. Then he says that January ain't the whole world. Once he says that, the entire beat of the song change and the album changed, and it becomes, like, upbeat gospel music. And he says, and falling's really overshone, and you're never really, really on your own. And then, like, the next part of the album's very hopeful.

[Brett]

That's really cool. Would I like any of the songs? Are any of them, like Exile?

[Louise]

You would like Day One. Okay. Day One is, like, objectively, like, a pretty. It's a pop song. Like, it's a pop song. I think it's with, like, Dijon. Like, it's. It's really good.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

It's really, really, really good. Like, I think you would. I think you would like it a lot. And. Yeah.

[Brett]

So I'm really happy for you that you're having this, you know, moment with Bonnie Bear.

[Louise]

Thanks. And, like, it's not lost on me that I think it's cool to listen to Bon Iver. So I'm telling Everybody I can. That I'm listening to Bon Iver for sure. Like, I understand that, you know, at dinner last night, they were like, name and a song you've been listening to. I'm like, name Jake. And I've just been really crushing this Bon Iver album this year.

[Brett]

And, you know, like, you sounded sick.

[Louise]

And I've. No, but like, everyone, like, Will said, like, someone that I've never heard of, and someone was like. And then for me, I sat in crickets. Crickets. I was like, none of you guys listen. Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. As you guys know, I love live music. I love live events more than anything. I recently saw Rene Rapp's Bite Me tour. It was incredible. I also saw Tate's Miss Possessive World Tour. This is my public plea for Bon Iver to go on tour. So I can use my code therapist to get 10% off SeatGeek tickets. SeatGeek is the best site to buy tickets on. When you download the app, you can put in your location and it shows you popular events in your area, whether that be sports, comedy, music. And then when you click an event, it'll show you tickets. And next to the tickets, it'll have numbers from 1 to 10. 1 being not the best, 10 being the best in terms of, like, the deal you're getting. So you know that when you're buying a ticket, like, you're getting a good deal for the price you're paying. Also, if you click the link in the description, it downloads the app and automatically applies the code therapists to your account for 10% off your tickets. There are just so many good people on tour right now. I'm pretty sure the World Series is happening if you want to go see a sports game. There are so many good comedians on tour. Lord is on tour, and I'm going to go see her in New York in December. I cannot wait. Addison Rae is on tour. There are just so many incredible people performing right now, and, like, if you have the opportunity to see them, you should. And SeatGeek is the best way to get access to see these people. I really do think live music is one of the only things that, like, brings us together as a community. It's something I always say it. We missed it during COVID and it is back now, and I just think we shouldn't take it for granted. And SeatGeek really makes it more accessible for everyone to go. And so thank you, Seatgeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Use code therapist for 10% off your order. Well, it's my birthday.

[Brett]

Yeah. Do you want to talk about, like reminiscing on this past year?

[Louise]

I guess. Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Okay. So I think a highlight for me this year was I started eating pre made meals from organic orange.

[Brett]

That part.

[Louise]

And I feel very inspired in the gym right now because of both the mix of like consistently going to the gym and eating organic orin and I feel very good in my body right now. I don't feel great, like perfect yet, but I feel better than I have in past years. And I think that's definitely been a highlight for me.

[Brett]

I love that. It really is a game changer when you're feeling good.

[Louise]

Yeah. It really is working out. I think I've realized that working out is like, really like important to like my mental health. It really is. Like yesterday didn't work out and I had Brett. The worst day ever.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Like, I. My diary entries are just diabolical. Oh. I started journaling.

[Brett]

I was. You started journaling?

[Louise]

Yes. And it really, really helps me, like, connect thoughts that I didn't know I had.

[Brett]

I'm inspired to start.

[Louise]

So basically, you know how I always get insecure when two really hot gay guys start hooking up?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

So I started writing about it and then I realized it's because it feels like this pretty person club. And it's like this very exclusive club that all I can't be a part of. So it feels like a club I can't get in. And I feel like that's such a theme in my life of like trying to get into circles and clubs so desperately and like this pretty person tall club. That's why I'm like, I hate how short I am. I hate how I look because I can't get into this club. And that's what I discovered via journaling.

[Brett]

Wow, that's deep.

[Louise]

Yeah. I was talking to this guy from Germany on Raya and he was like, yeah, no, journaling really like, helped you figure out your. And so I started doing it. Well, I was already. I was already doing it, but then, like, I really got into it after he said that.

[Brett]

Okay, wow. I was gonna ask like, who told you to start journaling?

[Louise]

I think I realized I lost my journal and then I was like, I.

[Brett]

Should probably start write it down.

[Louise]

Yeah. Like every. All these, like, all the best creatives write stuff down. I was like, I should start journaling.

[Brett]

Yeah. Well, I love that.

[Louise]

Thank you so much.

[Brett]

I think that writing for myself, like, I miss writing. You know what I mean? No.

[Louise]

Well, no, because I am Writing.

[Brett]

Okay, you're right. But like me, as that's how I felt before I was writing as a journalism. As a former journalism major. And, like, English, like, girly. Like, I loved an essay. Like, I haven't written something in so long. I think I should start.

[Louise]

Start journaling.

[Brett]

Okay, maybe I will.

[Louise]

It's just hard. It cramps your hand.

[Brett]

Yeah. And my handwriting is so bad.

[Louise]

So was mine. So is mine.

[Brett]

So bad.

[Louise]

So is mine.

[Brett]

I can't even write a. A birthday card for Max without it getting.

[Louise]

Why don't you get a journal that, like, prompts you?

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Like, I have a gratitude journal that I haven't opened. If you want it, maybe.

[Brett]

Yeah, that might be good for me.

[Louise]

Yeah. No, I've been really enjoying journaling. When I, like, can sit down and do it. It's mostly because it's really nice to read back on because there are certain details in your day that you forget. Yeah. Like, just like that, like, happened in my day that I normally wouldn't remember.

[Brett]

Yeah. And you know what? Your future self will. Thank you.

[Louise]

It does. Like, I literally used to read old diary entries and it's just like, oh, my God, this was. I thought this was so important. Like. And it was so not important.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Yeah. That January ain't the whole world, Dash. Bon Iver. Period. You want to see Audrey Hilbert in December?

[Brett]

Yeah, I do. I'm obsessed with her.

[Louise]

We're gonna go, what is it, December 4th? Yeah. Have you ever seen Manny at a concert where she likes the artist?

[Brett]

No, but I'm dying to. And I know that Manny loves Audrey Hilbert.

[Louise]

Manny, did you see her? No. Manny at Carly Rae Jepsen said. Said. She looked at me and goes, are you good? And I go, yeah, I'm good. Why? She goes, I need more space. And I said, okay. And then she walk other side of the room and just the world was her dance floor.

[Brett]

I love that.

[Louise]

So Audrey Hobart's about to be lit, let me tell you.

[Brett]

Where is it?

[Louise]

I don't know. Where is that? I don't know either.

[Brett]

I'm super excited for that. I love every single song on her album.

[Louise]

Yeah, it's a one. One of the best debuts I've heard in a really, really long time.

[Brett]

Agreed. I saw today on Twitter, like, that Olivia Rodrigo's third album was, like, maybe released, but, like, it also. Or not released.

[Louise]

Sorry. In the works.

[Brett]

In the works.

[Louise]

She just did an AMEX commercial and at. I'm pretty sure she, like, played a few tunes.

[Brett]

Really?

[Louise]

Or a few, like, notes of a song.

[Brett]

But it also could be AI and I could be stupid because I fall for a lot of that AI.

[Louise]

YouTube, you guys. Broccoli's. Oh, my God. They have the security of the Louvre robbers. And immediately I'm like, didn't they, like, not have security cameras in that room? I'm watching this video. They're, like, smashing. And I go, brett, that's AI.

[Brett]

I was like, damn it.

[Louise]

Wait, so you heard music that was like, allegedly. I didn't.

[Brett]

No, I didn't listen.

[Louise]

It was like a cover.

[Brett]

And I saw lyrics Allegedly.

[Louise]

On Twitter.

[Brett]

On Twitter.

[Louise]

And it was like you just scrolled past.

[Brett]

It was like photos of a vinyl lyrics. Kind of like how Taylor's got leaked.

[Louise]

Because we do not condone leaks up in here. We do not. We scroll.

[Brett]

We scroll.

[Louise]

Always we scroll.

[Brett]

I heard a few notes of the fatal affiliate. I didn't know if it was real or not before it came out.

[Louise]

Oh, on tick tock. Right? We couldn't go on tick tock all day.

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Louise]

That sucked.

[Brett]

Wait, so just. This is just a really random thing, but, like, I've been getting. And I don't know if you do because, like, you say it a lot too, but, like, people have been asking what it's tears means.

[Louise]

Oh, they have? Yeah.

[Brett]

And so I feel like it could just be, like, a good informational thing for, like, you to tell the background and, like, kind of explain it. Because, like, you. You and Alice started saying it first.

[Louise]

It's here is basically, Alice and I are always miserable everywhere we go. And I think we just like. It's like a thing. Like, we are consistently miserable. Like, we cannot be happy.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Unless we are home.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And I think we were just like. We just started saying, like, we used to say, this is boof. Like, this is boof.

[Brett]

Like, this.

[Louise]

This is. It's boof. This boof. And then, like, we just kind of replaced that with tears. So we were like, oh, this is tears. That's tears. This is tears. Your tears were tears.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

So, like, someone wasn't responding me today, so I was. I like, you know, it's like your tears. You're being tears. Yeah, it's tears. When Brett bonked her marathon. It's tears.

[Brett]

It's tears.

[Louise]

Like, definite. Like, yesterday was tears for me. Like. Like. Like.

[Brett]

What?

[Louise]

I overdid it with the pho.

[Brett]

It's tears.

[Louise]

It's tears.

[Brett]

Like, did you, though, really, Brett?

[Louise]

Like, I think I've had enough.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Would you like to, like, enlighten everyone on what we did this week? I'VE had fu five times in one week. I don't know what happened. Oh, basically, Brett. Basically what happened was Brett got sick after her marathon.

[Brett]

That was a week ago today.

[Louise]

I'm gonna throw up. Right? We've had it five times. I've had it five times.

[Brett]

Five times.

[Louise]

I was coming back from acting class. I was coming back from acting class, and I was like, I feel really good about myself. I feel really proud of myself. I just did a scene that I didn't think I could do. I'm gonna get, like, I want it. I crave it. I'm gonna get it. And I ate it while watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, which has just been nothing short of incredible. And I overdid it. Fifth time was enough.

[Brett]

Yeah. I liked mine last night, and I didn't feel like I overdid it, but I definitely need to pause just because it's been too much.

[Louise]

Oh, I think it's Alice. You're on. You're on. Therapus. And we were. Huh.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Huh, huh, huh. And we were, like, talking about its tears and, like. And out. Brett was like, you have to call Alice because, like, she's the one that, like, really started that. So, like, how would you describe its tears?

[Brett]

Okay, so you were actually the one that said it, but you said it, like, not without any, like, context. And then I just took it and ran with it like, it's tears. I feel like me and just like, oh, it's bad. Like, I'm.

[Louise]

It's.

[Brett]

We're not in a good way. Or, like, this is just, like, it's tears.

[Louise]

Should I do Rose, thorn and bud of my year?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Okay. Rose was finishing my tour, doing Radio City.

[Brett]

That was amazing.

[Louise]

Was there a moment of, like, pure darkness for you? Yeah. Did I have a bad month? I did. I know I did. Or just, like, a bad situation. Oh. And I got to a really, really, really big fight that was a really hard time for me with my thorn. That was just horrible. Like, I. And I like it.

[Brett]

I don't think I knew how bad that was.

[Louise]

It was so bad and so horrible, and, like, it was just tears. If that was tears. I felt super, like. I just felt super, like. I felt a lot of, like, resentment at myself and then at the situation, and. Yeah, that was my thorn. I think my bud is. I'm excited for. I. It's, like, very bittersweet that therapist season two is ending. This is the. So I'm not going to pronounce this right. The tumultuous episode, penultimate Penultimate episode. And I'm excited to like, explore other things in that break that I have. Yeah, that's my bud for the next year.

[Brett]

I'm excited for that for you. You've been working really a lot on this.

[Louise]

Thank you. This season's been crazy.

[Brett]

It's been so long, and so.

[Louise]

It's been long, and it's been almost a year of it.

[Brett]

It's really crazy. You should be impressed with yourself.

[Louise]

Do you have a favorite episode of the last season?

[Brett]

I mean, like, there were so many. Lord was insane.

[Louise]

Lord was insane.

[Brett]

Lord was insane.

[Louise]

That was, like, I think, a moment where we all looked around. We were like, what the is happening?

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah. And just, like, she pulled up alone. It was awesome.

[Louise]

She pulled up in an Uber alone, like, iconic. I'll never forget it.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

She's like, yeah. I was like, oh, my God.

[Brett]

Yeah. And then obviously, Selena. Selena was awesome. And, like, coming in here and hugging Kerry Washington, I was like, wow.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

I regret not getting a selfie with her. I forgot.

[Louise]

Oh, that's okay. You were in the moment.

[Brett]

I was really in the moment. I gave her a big hug, and she hugged me back, and it was great.

[Louise]

Rose of the year. Go to girls.

[Brett]

The fucking go to girls.

[Louise]

Changed my life.

[Brett]

Yep.

[Louise]

Changed my life.

[Brett]

My systems are still in place.

[Louise]

Me too. Me too.

[Brett]

It's. It's the best thing we ever did.

[Louise]

Okay. What are you therapist about today? So I'm a little stuffed up.

[Brett]

I'm therapist that I got a post marathon cold, which is normal. Last week, I was very, like, smart. I slept a lot, whatever got better for the weekend. But then I obviously did it to myself. I went out for Max's birthday. I got so up. I was very hungover. And now I'm back to being a little sniffly. I think I'm finally at the tail end of it. But, like, being sick is the worst. And, like, it's. Yeah, it's just lingering and, like, it's very annoying.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

So that's what I'm therapist about.

[Louise]

I am therapist about. It's very valid, by the way. I'm therapist about. I think I have. I know I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but I fucking know I have a deviated septum and I need to get it fucking removed and checked out. And the doctor I went to to tell me that I had a deviated septum. Like, literally said I didn't have one, but I literally have one. I don't know how to make that any more clear. And it's incredibly frustrating when he won't listen to me, listen to me, and tell me I have a deviated septum. I've also been, like, pouring over my words recently. So when I've been doing auditions for stuff, like, I've been, like, fudging my words. Almost like my brain is moving faster than my mout. And that's what I'm therapist about.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Oh, my God. Should we do the tell me what's wrongs? Yeah. I'm Jojo. Hi, Jojo. And I went out with all my friends the other night. We were on the tube. Okay. And yeah. On the way to bowling. On one of the stops, my boyfriend of four months gets on. He was supposed to be out of the country for work. He, without saying hi, suddenly got down on one knee on a very crowded moving train and proposed to me. It was so overstimulating, I got so claustrophobic phobic that I started crying and got off on the next stop without any explanation. He's a great guy, but this is way too fast. What do I do?

[Brett]

It sounds like he literally proposed because he got caught in a lie, but.

[Louise]

He had a ring.

[Brett]

Oh, okay. Yeah, you're right.

[Louise]

I don't know. That's like. So I. That is the weird vibes. Four months is weird.

[Brett]

And if you're not there, you aren't there.

[Louise]

And I think had you been there, that train would have been romantic to you.

[Brett]

It would have been like, oh, my God, this is the best thing ever.

[Louise]

And I think that claustrophobia you felt wasn't just physical. It was mental, too. Like, I think you felt claustrophobic in your relationship.

[Brett]

Yeah, for sure.

[Louise]

And I think you should break up with him.

[Brett]

Yeah. If they aren't already.

[Louise]

And I prescribe Champagne Problems by Taylor Swift.

[Brett]

Oh, that's a good one. I prescribe Happiness by Taylor Swift.

[Louise]

I had a gut feeling to go through my boyfriend's phone and saw he's been searching Reddit about, quote, getting bored of girlfriend with. Getting bored with girlfriend of two years rejected by gym crush. Pilates, literally. Just help me, because if I bring it up, hey, my fault for going through his phone.

[Brett]

Anyways, just break up with him. And don't say you went through the phone.

[Louise]

But it sounds like she doesn't want to.

[Brett]

I know, but this is what I preach. And I know that it's tough love, but it's like, that's not your husband. That's not your husband. You think you're gonna catch your husband when you've only been together two Years looking up. I'm sick of my girlfriend. Like, that's when you have to really, like, know your self worth and it sucks so much. But you don't. You deserve better. Like, you don't deserve a guy who's looking up on Reddit what to do when he's bored of you and has.

[Louise]

Is getting rejected by a gym.

[Brett]

Yeah, that means, like, he's actively trying to cheat, right?

[Louise]

I think my roommate is obsessed with me. While I was away for the weekend, she broke my door handle and slept in my bed. I also came home that weekend and found she folded my undies on my bed. Now she's trying to set me up with her twin brother and says that her quote, ideal situation would be all of us living together. She's even mentioned wanting. Wanting to have a twin someday and name one of them after me. Oh, I would prescribe the roommate with Latent Easter. Something's awry or Single white female.

[Brett]

Yeah, that's not normal and that's really weird.

[Louise]

Oh my God, I would be so freaked out.

[Brett]

Yeah, I mean, broke the doorknob to sleep in her bed.

[Louise]

That's weird. Ew, that's so weird.

[Brett]

I literally would get so mad at that.

[Louise]

I would be furious. I think the universe is sending me signs, but I can't act on them. Last night I had a dream that I reconnected with a guy I was involved with a while back, but that guy is now dating a good friend in real life. Then the next day I find out that they have broken up. I never really got over this guy and it feels like the universe is trying to tell me something. Help. I am so conflicted. Am I delusional? No. I mean, if your friend is wouldn't get mad at you, I would say just reach out. You never got over him. Reach out.

[Brett]

Yeah, I think maybe like, give it a beat. If they like, just broke up.

[Louise]

Oh, for sure, right? And we prescribe Is it Over now by Taylor Swift. Because maybe it's not.

[Brett]

Yeah, so true.

[Louise]

But like, I guess that song's about it being over.

[Brett]

You don't know though, right? But yeah, I mean, if your friend doesn't care. But like, it also could just be like, you know, you saw his name somewhere and so that's why you, like, dreamt about him. And like, it's not that deep.

[Louise]

Have you been having weird dreams lately? I have, yeah. Really weird. They, like, have been making me upset.

[Brett]

Yeah, they've just been a little bit vivid, which I normally don't have. Like.

[Louise]

Right. Like, it feels Very real. Yeah.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

All of my friends 23 to 24, are so independent and know how to live on their own. I feel like I rely on them so much and can't function on my own. I don't want to mooch forever. I just graduated and haven't been able to land a job yet. Please help. What do I do in the meantime? My advice is, there is no meantime. Like, like, you know what I mean? Like, if you, like, does that make sense?

[Brett]

There is no mean time in that. Like, you need to grow up.

[Louise]

You kind of need to grow up.

[Brett]

I agree.

[Louise]

Like, and, like, that doesn't mean if you can't find a job like that, totally valid. Like, totally understandable.

[Brett]

Especially right now. The job.

[Louise]

Getting financial help from your friends is different. Like, that's a different sector. I'm not talking about that. What I'm talking about is, like, handling your own business and, like, growing up and taking accountability for your own life.

[Brett]

And you need to be comfortable being alone. Like, it is, like, the number one most important thing to learn is to, like, enjoy your time alone and, like, relish in it. And, like, I really implore you to do that.

[Louise]

Me and my best guy friend kiss ruined the friendship in Taylor Swift terms. Now it's so awkward. We haven't talked in person in three weeks because he. He just keeps avoiding me even though we have two classes together and live in the same dorm building. I need advice.

[Brett]

I feel like, in a weird way, I feel like that means that, like, he likes you and he doesn't know where to go from here because he doesn't know if you feel the same. What do you think?

[Louise]

No, I don't think he likes her.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Louise]

Right. He's, like, avoiding her. He wouldn't be avoiding her if he. You are so sweet.

[Brett]

I'm just. I'm just, like, trying to think about the. But I guess in college, people kind of get over being awkward, right?

[Louise]

I mean, I just don't understand, like, if I kiss someone and, like, I knew they liked me and I liked them, I wouldn't want to avoid them. I'd want to be like, let's hang out. That one.

[Brett]

Okay. Yeah. So advice to this girl is just, like, be normal and then, like, move on with. With him. I think.

[Louise]

No, I think send him a text and be like, so, what's up? But be prepared for receiving bad news.

[Brett]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I'm aligned with that.

[Louise]

I was, no joke, going home with this guy from the bar. And when we started hooking up, I noticed he took Off a ring. I didn't even notice it when we were out. And now I'm wondering if I should find his potential spouse and tell them. Or alternately, alternatively, do I just. Stay out of it. Stay out of it.

[Brett]

Stay out of it.

[Louise]

Stay out of it. Stay. Wait, did they continue?

[Brett]

Yeah, I was about to say, did you continue hooking up or.

[Louise]

It sounds. Yes, that's is what this sounds like.

[Brett]

Okay, well.

[Louise]

Well, you know what? Stay out of it.

[Brett]

Stay out of it.

[Louise]

I'm so sorry to whoever his spouse is, but, like, it's just not worth it. Not worth it.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

I'm turning 30 in December, and I really want to have a fun birthday party. I've never been a big birthday girly, but I really want to do something fun to step into this new era. The only problem is that most of my friends live out of town. I'm in New York, and I feel like no one will want to travel and pay for a hotel in the city around Christmas time. That makes sense. What should I do to celebrate and how can I get my friends there? Well, what if you just celebrate in a different place that's cheaper with all your friends?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

Or you, like, really, like, all cuddle up in your apartment?

[Brett]

I don't know.

[Louise]

You don't know?

[Brett]

I feel like. Or. Or like since Christmas, it's like, the most expensive time to travel. Like, do something with your New York friends and then, like, have your other friends come visit in a time that's more, like, financially feasible.

[Louise]

Yeah.

[Brett]

You know, and you love that. You can do a 30th birthday celebration. Like, l. Her birthday's in May, but, like, it's always, like, kind of still, like, gloomy and, like, you never know what the weather's gonna be in May. And our pool wouldn't be open yet when we were growing up, but Hannah and I had August birthday, so we were always able to have pool parties. So Al would like, have a pool party like, two months after her birthday as, like, her birthday party, like two months late so that she could have a pool party.

[Louise]

Be like alchody.

[Brett]

So be like Al and just celebrate late.

[Louise]

Yeah, just celebrate late if that's when the hotels are cheaper. I'm therapist because at the ripe age of 26, I learned that I have a secret half brother that my mom has been hiding from me and my sister. What makes matters worse is that we know him. Sorry, it was in all caps. And he was slyly introduced as a, quote, family friend. Turns out years of Christmas presents and family get togethers were how my mom stays connected to her one and only son. They kept it from us for so long because he's the product of an affair my mom had 20 or so years ago, before we were born. How do I move on from this betrayal? And do I try to have a relationship with this quote, brother of mine? Help. Holy. I don't know.

[Brett]

I don't know either. Like, holy.

[Louise]

I don't know. I feel. I part. I. I feel bad for the mom. There is a certain point at an age when you realize that parents are just grown up adults or grown up children. And it's the worst feeling ever. And I think that just happened to you. And I'm so sorry.

[Brett]

And ever it. It happens to everyone.

[Louise]

And I think you have to give your mom a little bit of grace. I. I really do. Like what?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

You don't know? Really, you don't know? I mean, but you can, like. I think two things can be true at once. There can be betrayal, and then she can still be your mom. And like, also. Yeah, why not? I mean, I don't know, you know.

[Brett]

If you already knew that, know the guy, like, you don't need to be.

[Louise]

Like, well, I guess we're brother and sister. Like, you know what I mean? Like, just, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I actively don't know.

[Brett]

Me.

[Louise]

Yeah, therapy. Yeah, therapy. I need help reacting to something. This guy I've been hooking up with cons. Is constantly picking stuff up around my apartment and cleaning surfaces, etc. What's the problem? Like, the only time he isn't is when we're having sex. Lmao. I appreciate the sentiment, but I think it's more that he's like, he's grossed out by his surroundings. Like, is this an ick? Am I overthinking it? What is this mean? I think it's normal to be in a relationship with someone who's opposite to you in terms of, like, cleanliness and stuff. And I actually think that's kind of charming.

[Brett]

Yeah, but if he, like, can't stop cleaning, like, maybe have him over when, like, everything is spotless and, like, see what he does.

[Louise]

Oh, good advice.

[Brett]

And then if he's, like, still cleaning, then it's like, weird, I think.

[Louise]

Well, maybe. Yeah. Or maybe he's just like an anxious cleaner. Maybe he's anxious around you. You don't think.

[Brett]

I mean, I just think it's weird to, like, clean, like all the. Like, if he's literally cleaning all the Time. Except when they're having sex. Like, that's weird.

[Louise]

My grandfather died in May and my family just inherited his big ass farm. Like, 160 acres of land. My dad and my uncle are splitting the farm 50. 50. We are learning a lot of crazy about my family. And one of the craziest things is that my uncle has been trying to start some sort of cult on his portion of the farm. My family is really confused and doesn't know what to do.

[Brett]

I love a cold.

[Louise]

Wait, I know, but like, you can't let your uncle start a cult.

[Brett]

Yeah, you can't.

[Louise]

Oh, my God. No, no.

[Brett]

It'd be such a sick documentary though.

[Louise]

Like, the one half of the farm fights the cult and the other. Oh, my God. What? No, you can't let him start a cold. Like, you have to have an intervention.

[Brett]

Yeah. I think your dad should get involved under my watch. Yeah. Like.

[Louise]

Oh, maybe like watch a few cult documentaries to learn how to handle it.

[Brett]

So I just got that. Yes, like Nexium and the Jim Jones one.

[Louise]

With the Jim Jones one.

[Brett]

The island in or. No, it wasn't an island. It was like this plot of land in South America and he convinced all of his followers to move there. And you know the saying, don't drink the Kool Aid?

[Louise]

That's from that.

[Brett]

Yeah, because he gave everyone Kool aid with cyanide.

[Louise]

Oh, that was the suicide.

[Brett]

Yeah, the mass suicide.

[Louise]

Oh, wow. That's where don't drink the Kool Aid comes from.

[Brett]

Yeah. Is that interesting or like, drink the. You know what I mean?

[Louise]

I wonder what phrase, like, from our generation will have an lasting effect like that. Same like it's tears. Maybe like yolo.

[Brett]

Yolo for sure.

[Louise]

I'm trying to think of like a phrase.

[Brett]

I don't know.

[Louise]

I don't know. Well, Brad, what did we learn today?

[Brett]

I learned so much about Lily Allen and Bonnie Bear, and I think that that was really awesome. And last episode, you taught me a lot about Carly Rae and I was.

[Louise]

Wearing a Carly Ray shirt. And now I'm wearing a Bon Iver shirt.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

And it's my birthday episode.

[Brett]

Yeah. So that's. That's what I learned, I think. And I really liked picking out our songs for, like, if I learned a.

[Louise]

Lot about the Louvre robbery.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Louise]

That was so fun.

[Brett]

Yeah, that was really fun.

[Louise]

Okay, well, she wasn't going pee. What she was she bringing?

[Brett]

Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you.

[Louise]

Oh, Manny.

[Brett]

Happy birthday to you.

[Louise]

Okay, I'm making a wish.

[Brett]

Do you like the phone?

[Louise]

I love. Did you pick it out. Oh, I love you, B. Thank you. Okay. Making a wish. Yay. I love you guys.

[Brett]

Love you, Jade.

[Louise]

That was such a fun. Oh, yeah, I really. Oh, okay.

[Brett]

That was just last October.

[Louise]

That was last October. Okay. Well, I guess this is the penultimate. What?

[Brett]

Penultimate.

[Louise]

Penultimate episode. Next week is the season finale. It's a really good one.

[Brett]

I'm really excited for you.

[Louise]

It's really good. I filmed it yesterday. Oh, my God. And I guess this is the. This is the final episode.

[Brett]

Wow. How are you feeling of the.

[Louise]

Of the season? I feel good. I feel ready to explore other things for a little bit.

[Brett]

I'm excited for you and I'm proud of you.

[Louise]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm excited and I'm proud of myself.

[Brett]

You should be.

[Louise]

I love you. I love you.

[Brett]

Happy birthday. Bye.