Session 116: Adéla

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Therapuss with Jake Shane — Session 116: Adéla (April 16, 2026)

Episode Overview

In Session 116 of Therapuss, host Jake Shane welcomes rising pop star Adéla for an open, playful, and deeply insightful conversation. The episode offers a signature blend of humor and vulnerability, as Jake and Adéla discuss everything from pop culture influences and internet culture to creative anxiety, immigrant ambition, music industry realities, and the challenges of maintaining authenticity as an artist. The session is punctuated by relatable advice segments, candid storytelling, and lots of camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Coachella Recap & Group Dynamics (00:53–18:40)

• Jake, Adéla, and friends open with a lively debrief of their recent Coachella experience—comparing schedules, favorite performances, and the necessity of pacing oneself over a packed festival weekend.
• Humor about Jake’s impulsive “mania” and affirmations from friends about his “best energy ever.”
• Standout musical moments include Justin Bieber’s set and Disclosure’s “Latch.”
• Commentary on the unique euphoria and exhaustion of festival life, learning personal limitations, and the importance of supportive friends.
  • “The lack of impulsion because I listened to my friends led me to a realization the next day that I actually wasn’t that mad. I was just insecure.” — Jake (02:14)

2. Introduction to Adéla and Her Origins (18:52–22:37)

• Adéla joins the conversation, expressing excitement and describing her appearance on Therapuss as “like winning a Grammy” (18:58).
• Playful banter over the podcast’s name origins and a shared love of grilled octopus.
• Conversation shifts to Adéla’s experience shooting her new music video for “KGB,” filmed in one day at the LA Theatre with nine different looks, and the stress/fulfillment of creative ambition.

3. The Emotional Journey of Performing and Creating (21:24–24:56)

• Adéla candidly describes the anxiety and standards she sets for herself:
  • “I had a mental breakdown yesterday... I suck, I suck. But I have those moments in private and then people can be like, ‘Oh, that looks really good.’” (21:26)
• She credits her Russian/Moscow ballet training for her discipline, and details the internal struggles before a public performance.
• Both Jake and Adéla reflect on the weird duality between self-criticism behind the scenes and public confidence.

4. The Pressure and Power of Pop Fandoms (25:02–27:47)

• Jake asks about Adéla’s fans and whether she has a fandom name (e.g. “Lobotics” for Demi Lovato or “Beehive” for Beyoncé). Adéla says she dislikes most suggestions ("Adidas" – hates, “Adaliens” – likes).
• Insightful critique of how artists—particularly women—are expected to behave humbly and not admit their ambition, even though male counterparts are celebrated for it.

5. Pop Culture, Parasociality & Identity (29:40–39:56)

• Jake and Adéla share deep personal connections to pop stars like Ariana Grande, Beyoncé, Miley Cyrus, and Taylor Swift.
• Adéla discusses learning English by watching Hannah Montana and American interviews, directly connecting her linguistic and musical journey to pop culture immersion.
  • “I was like, eight years old. I have a couple years to learn English. By 15, I’m going to fly out to California... I looked up the address of Disney Channel headquarters, wrote it down.” — Adéla (45:04)
• They reflect on parasocial relationships—as both fans and as people in the spotlight—balancing gratitude with the pitfalls of intense audience scrutiny.

6. Artistry, Social Media, and Authenticity (31:53–41:14)

• Adéla unpacks her relationship with online commentary—how negative feedback as a young woman in the public eye can be brutal but is also fuel for music.
• She emphasizes not letting online noise or opinion shape her songwriting or identity.
  • “My job is to be me to the fullest extent... If I let anybody telling me anything affect me, I wouldn’t be doing my job.” — Adéla (31:53)

7. Pop Music as Universal Connection (41:14–54:35)

• The hosts delve into the universality and emotional resonance of well-written pop, from “The Climb” to “This is the Life.”
• Adéla shares how pop music and stars gave her grounding and aspiration during tough times at home in Slovakia, and describes her dream of one day financially supporting her mother through her success.

8. The Reality of Ambition for Female Artists (55:30–57:18)

• Jake and Adéla talk about how society judges women for being openly ambitious or “hungry” for success, whereas men are applauded for it.
  • “It’s not a bad thing to want to be successful... if you put in the work... not saying you want it feels stupid.” – Adéla (56:02)

9. New Album & Growth as an Artist (60:41–65:59)

• Adéla shares her vision for her debut album, wanting it to reflect her taste, experiences, and vulnerability beyond just “messaging” or responding to public opinion.
• She’s open about not wanting to disparage earlier songs (“they served a purpose at the time”), but is excited for listeners to see more of her personality and growth.

10. Relatable Advice Segments — “Tell Me What’s Wrong” (81:31–100:19)

The episode includes a signature advice segment, where Jake and Adéla give their take on listeners’ dilemmas:

• “International Boyfriend Moving In After a Month” — Both urge an intervention, citing the green card risk and the need for tough love. (81:33)
• “Sister Copycatting My Style and Boyfriend’s Brother” — Conversation about healthy confrontation when someone is copying your “mixture” of things. (84:07)
• “Roommate is the Secret Hater on Twitter” — Plan a dramatic reveal, collect receipts, and be petty for catharsis. (86:07)
• “Ex Invites to Dog’s Funeral” — Suggestions include honoring the dog in your own way or going to the event completely unbothered to display true apathy. (92:02)
• “Girlfriend Never Wants to Go Out in NYC” — A nuanced discussion of lifestyle changes in relationships and the need to find enjoyable company or accept foundational differences. (93:29)
• “Advice for Being More Punctual” — Tips include prepping the night before, setting strong consequences, and “just go!” (96:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When he was doing the songs from Never Say Never...when he did ‘So Sick’ and looked at himself... I felt like he was really healing himself and it was one of the more beautiful things I've ever seen.” — Cass at [10:06] (on Justin Bieber’s performance)
• “My job is to be me to the fullest extent... If I let anybody telling me anything affect me, I wouldn’t be doing my job.” — Adéla [31:53]
• “But I love that pop music is a place to be messy, that's the magic of music.” — Adéla [30:10]
• “[Learning English] by watching Hannah Montana and all her interviews... I would act like I was being interviewed, and then within a year, I just could speak English.” — Adéla [45:04–46:51]
• “I also only ate a bar and this is my, like, real first food [these gummies].” — Adéla [71:54] (on trying sponsor candy, lightening up the tone)
• "There’s a lot of things that I want that I haven’t said... I’d love to take care of my mom one day financially. That’s really a big goal of mine." — Adéla [54:35]
• "It's not a bad thing to want to be successful...if you put in the work...not saying you want it feels stupid." — Adéla [56:02]
• “Be nasty and petty...really put your heads together and be like, how can we get this bitch?” — Adéla [88:00] (on exposing a secret internet hater)
• “Louboutins should be dusted up. Don’t be ashamed of your dreams.” — Adéla [100:36–100:45] (episode closing lessons)

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Important Timestamps

• 00:53–04:50 — Honest discussion of Jake's “manic” energy & friends’ interventions
• 03:38–08:40 — Coachella stories, best sets, and festival energy
• 18:52 — Adéla joins; mutual admiration and “Grammy speech” jokes
• 20:30–21:38 — Filming the KGB video, creative pressure and anxiety
• 25:29–27:47 — Fandom name debate and pop fandom culture
• 29:40–32:40 — How pop stars shaped their young lives
• 41:53–45:35 — Miley, Hannah Montana, learning English, and immigrant ambition
• 54:35–57:18 — Artistry, gender, and owning ambition as a woman
• 60:41–65:30 — Adéla’s new album: process, growth, and sound
• 81:31–100:19 — Listener submissions: advice, confrontations, relationships
• 100:36–100:45 — Final takeaways: don't be ashamed of your dreams

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The conversation is consistently lively, irreverent, and honest—navigating between humor, pop culture obsession, and candid openness about emotional health and professional ambition. Adéla's journey is a testament to the power of inspiration, resilience, and the value of being unapologetically ambitious as a young woman and rising star.

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For Listeners:
Expect a wildly entertaining and heartfelt ride that covers festival highs and lows, fangirling moments, revelations about music and language, insider industry chat, and the perpetual hilarity and drama of young adulthood, all filtered through the relatable, tongue-in-cheek humor of Jake and Adéla.

Not to Miss:

• Adéla’s account of watching and learning from American pop stars ([45:00–47:18])
• How musicians manage the double-edged sword of social media ([31:53–34:38])
• The “Tell Me What’s Wrong” advice minisodes ([81:31–100:19])
• Real talk about ambition and gender in the music industry ([55:30–57:18])
• BTS scoop on Adéla’s debut album ([60:44–65:59])

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Transcript

[A]

Focus features in Blumhouse Obsession.

[B]

When I have a crush on a guy no one knows, Be careful.

[A]

I wish Nikki loved me more than anyone in the entire world. Who you wish for? Obsession is 96% fresh on rotten tomatoes. I love you so, so, so, so much. It's blood soaked nightmare fuel. What kind of spills you put on her? You have been warned. Obsession rated R under 17 animated without parent only theaters May 15 with special engagements in Dolby. Adela is on therapist tonight. We are so excited. I. My boss like the. Huh. I, uh huh.

[C]

I can see your struggle.

[A]

I'm really. I've been very manic today and like I feel good. Like when I was on a call, me and Louise had a call earlier and I kept asking for like pats on the back throughout the entire call. Like I kept texting her, being like, I'm doing good, right? Because like. And that's how manic I was.

[C]

I feel like you're not manic today. You're not giving me manic energy at all.

[D]

You're actually giving me good energy.

[A]

No, but. So that's the thing is. But that thing, you see it.

[C]

I've seen your mania.

[A]

This is not it.

[C]

It is like nothing I've ever experienced with anyone else.

[A]

What? What is it like? How would you describe it?

[C]

I would. It would be. I would be sitting here for 30 seconds. I'd look at my phone. 46 texts.

[A]

Shut up.

[C]

You do that. You're spammer and you're very impulsive. You know that about yourself. Come on. You're the most impulsive person ever. Jake will decide that he wants to do something so random and then he won't consult anyone. He won't think about it for more than 15 seconds. And he does it. And then instantly he's like, what have I done? We're like, we told you to fudgeing breathe. And you never do.

[D]

Friday night.

[C]

What happened Friday?

[D]

That is a great way to put what happened Friday night?

[A]

I started if I hate when you do that.

[D]

I said, you need to breathe. He starts spam texting him. I'm like, put your phone down, enjoy the concert and we'll call him tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah, like that's all.

[C]

That's all. You clock your ass.

[A]

And by the way, the lack of impulsion because I listened to my friends led me to a moment of realization the next day that I actually wasn't that mad. I was just. You were.

[D]

You weren't that mad.

[A]

I was insecure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just. Every time I have this brief moment of insecurity I, like, really, like, that is, like, my most manic.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like. But I don't have a problem saying I'm insecure, but I guess I do sometimes.

[C]

And I feel like you do listen. You'll take the criticism, you take the clock.

[A]

And then you're like, I do listen to the clock.

[C]

You listen to the clock Friday.

[B]

You did. I was.

[A]

But like, I used to.

[C]

Not because you weren't in a place to listen. Neither was I. My love, It's beyond. Every time I'm fucking doing this with you, I'm congested. Like, the way I know that you'll clock my ass if I, like, snort right now. And I need to so badly. It's like, right here. I don't feel well. It's not okay today when I'm in these pajama pants. Oh, we were just at Coachella. Like, we're not giving a timeline. Yeah, we just got home from Coachella an hour ago.

[A]

I say,

[C]

can you tell I'm in March?

[A]

That was the Coachella. We.

[D]

That was the best Coachella it was

[A]

ever done ever, ever, ever. We. I. I used to. I've seen one artist max a day.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, why not lean in? Why not go at 3:00pm?

[C]

Well, I know why. Because it's too long. But 3:00pm for you, my love. I go when I go and I will meet you there. Everyone did their own thing.

[A]

Charlie went at 4.

[C]

Charlie went at 4. I also racking my brain. When did you go at 3.

[D]

Jake never went.

[C]

The earliest you went was maybe 5.

[A]

What time did we leave for the festival that day?

[B]

No, you came early on Friday.

[A]

I came early.

[D]

We went at 4.

[B]

35.

[A]

35, 30.

[C]

Not early. Two and a half hour difference. Okay, but we party all night.

[B]

Yeah,

[C]

that's why, like, if you're gonna go at three, like, you can be asleep by one. Follow your bliss. We're gonna go at five and we will see you at eight in the morning. Are you laughing at me so much today?

[A]

You're making me laugh. Okay, so my favorite side of the weekend.

[D]

Cyptronics for me.

[B]

No.

[D]

You guys don't know what happened to me there. My soul left my body. No.

[C]

Cass was in her chrome hearts beanie, and she had that beanie. And a dream. And a dream.

[D]

It was the best thing I've ever experienced, like.

[A]

Oh, I'm sure it was.

[D]

I'm not even kidding. My soul left my body. I was looking around like, it was euphoric.

[A]

So the reason I'M so shocked is because this was Sunday.

[D]

Sunday night. Sunday night. The last seven went to 10pm Sunday night.

[A]

I am shocked. Like I wasn't alive. Sunday morning I had to go home. I had to. Because I knew for my mental health this week if I did not arrive home in my bed on Sunday, if I would need Wednesday to recover as well. I can't afford a Wednesday.

[C]

But you knew.

[D]

I.

[C]

You knew and that's why it's like you know yourself. Go home.

[A]

I'm shocked. Good for you. I'm so happy for you. I had today.

[D]

It's hitting me clearly all day. I haven't.

[C]

I think you're just low on sleep, but like. Do you feel really horrible?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

I honestly never felt worse. Not to be a bitch, but I feel awesome.

[D]

Well, you stayed in last night.

[C]

I went to Subtronics with you.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Her and Will went out till four in the morning and that's where I drew the line. We get back.

[D]

Let me explain why this happened because this is not my fault.

[A]

Three nights in a row. Are you clinical?

[C]

I'm.

[D]

I'm seriously not.

[A]

Well, let me tell you a highlight for me from this weekend.

[C]

Should we peek and pet or peek?

[A]

Okay, I have a pet. But let me go with my peak first. My peak. Aside from the Bieber of it all, which is just in a league of its own, right? I would say like it really was Biebercella start to finish at the Strokes. I understand that that is your not your type of music and baby, I'm

[C]

why are you like.

[A]

No, but I understand it is not yours.

[D]

It's not mine.

[A]

But I had a good time.

[B]

I had a good time.

[A]

I didn't even matter to me that I knew like this wasn't your type of music. I've never in my life had more fun ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever in my life. Except when I was on Will's shoulders for someday. I already feel insecure that like sometimes I feel like my ass is a little fat.

[C]

Your ass is not fat.

[A]

What? But I did.

[D]

You kept asking will, do you need a break? And I was like, holy shit, Jake. Just if he needs a break, he's gonna tell you.

[A]

Any of you. This jokes was amazing. I would also say disclosure. Oh my God.

[C]

Disclosure was euphoric.

[A]

Latch and did I not call that. I said not many people are gonna go, you know. Also everyone went. It was one of the more. I loved it the entire weekend.

[C]

It was so awesome.

[A]

When latch my soul left my body.

[C]

I don't even remember it.

[D]

That was the remember it.

[C]

I blacked out.

[A]

Let me just tell you one thing. I need to make one shout out here and right now actually too. Sydney and Kaden are girls. If I could send you my soul in a bucket, I would, I would, I would send you anything.

[C]

They saved us this weekend single handedly

[A]

lives. So shout out you for being great company imperfect, perfect made me literally every time I saw you both highlighted my weekend. I was so listening to music with you guys was the most fun I ever had. And also shout out Poppy for setting that up. Really and truly thank you. Like it was. It made my Coachella and I understand that's not normal it to me I am so grateful that it happened as never happened. Thank you and thank you Sydney and Kayden.

[C]

Mic drop. Obviously you know my peak and I just can't pick another one. I am the biggest Belieber ever. 10 toes down Belieber Cardboard cut out in my room. Purple beats in my backpack. Justin Bieber like tatted on my wrist. Obsessed.

[A]

I've never in my life, I will be honest, ever, ever, ever in my life met a bigger belieber in the entire world than you. I am every YouTube rabbit hole. Every YouTube rabbit hole you've been down

[C]

and I love him down and my love has never died. So obviously this was so important to me. No, no, no. Bieber Teller. And it's that serious for me. Hi. Swag. I took. I took Jake's sweatshirt and he's telling me I can't keep it, but I just might have to anyway because I

[A]

don't know when the next time I'm going to be able to get my hands on this marches.

[C]

Anyway, my biggest peak was the whole set list. But special shout out to to when he was doing the songs from Never say never.

[A]

Okay, what moment of when he was doing that YouTube DJ set which I thought actually genuinely was so fucking cool.

[C]

He started on YouTube. He was discovered on YouTube. All of his videos were on YouTube. Like the video when he did the. When he did so sick. That is like a famous video of him singing to Usher.

[A]

Do people not on YouTube people not understand that moment?

[C]

I don't think people are clocking.

[A]

And it's like that moment when he was looking. Looking at his younger self to the video on my full body. Chills to the. No. It was so sick. It was so sick for me when he did so sick and looked at himself and I was like. I felt like he was really healing himself and it was one of the more beautiful Things I've ever seen.

[C]

I was having an out of body experience and he looked so happy.

[A]

So happy, so happy, so happy. It was great.

[C]

And you could just tell that that's what he wanted to do. Like that is the way he wanted to perform. And it's like, yeah, do whatever the fuck you want. And if you're a real fan and you want to hear him sing, you will be happy with him sitting on the laptop and singing whatever the fuck he wants.

[A]

I agree. And I think if anyone's thinking like, oh, he kept cutting the songs early. Duh. So he could play all of them. Right.

[C]

He didn't want to have. He can't have a three hour set.

[A]

Yeah. Strict.

[C]

And now I'm pissed.

[A]

But what was your favorite moment, aside from the Usher one?

[C]

Okay. When my like hair was standing up on my body is when he went to click a video and I think it was Fall was like an intro for five seconds and he clicked off the video and the whole crowd was singing it. And then he started like lip syncing it. And it's really like if you know, you know moment which you obviously didn't know because you have no idea what I'm talking about.

[A]

What is fall if I

[C]

in love. Oh, my voice is really bad right now.

[A]

Wait, it's never good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What's.

[C]

I'm pretty sure that was a song.

[A]

Is that like an unreleased song?

[B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Because that's like. Is it like.

[C]

I believe.

[A]

Oh, so it's like a real deep cut. Okay.

[C]

Yeah. And also I have so many moments, obviously when he sang favorite girl because that started the throwbacks and I really. It was a toss up.

[A]

He did that.

[C]

He was going to do that.

[A]

And so for me, would that be like Taylor Swift doing Coachella and seeing. And when. If she like drops the archer.

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay. What would it be like that and related to Taylor Swift?

[B]

For me, maybe a Pictures to burn.

[C]

Picture to burn. Yeah. Something from debut. It's very OG it's from debut or like I'm only me when I'm with you, not fall. Favorite girl is from his first album. Yeah, yeah. It's OG. Og og.

[D]

That's one of his best songs.

[A]

Should have said now.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yes, yes, yes.

[A]

Should have said no.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I heard my. If I heard the intro strong. Should have said now. And saw her rocking out on the Coachella stage on a Saturday night. To should have said Taylor has to do Coachella. When I tell you it would change my life in ways that I would only see her I wouldn't go anywhere else.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Okay. A peak of mine.

[C]

Did you not already have five peaks?

[A]

No.

[C]

Is it not Cass's turn?

[D]

It is my turn.

[B]

Oh.

[D]

Cat's eye with you, Charlie and Will. And that's crazy because I'm not. It was. That was my. One of my peaks. But that was actually the best time of my life because you guys were like, just come. Whatever. I came with you. And I was feeling that music so hard. And I think it was just like the night with my gaze.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

What do you mean, the night with your gays?

[D]

You, Charlie and Will

[A]

with your gaze. I thought you got real philosophical about, like, oh, my God, life is so beautiful. This is the first night of Coachella. Like, the party's just begun.

[C]

Why would that have meant that? I don't know how that night we got.

[D]

My gaze.

[C]

How would that lead.

[A]

I heard gaze, G, A, Z, E. Like the night was my gaze.

[C]

As if Cass is saying the fried. I don't even gaze.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

I don't even understand.

[D]

Understand that term. So I don't think I would.

[A]

That's why I had this moment where I was really shocked for a second.

[D]

Sometimes I think you think I have zero brain cells.

[A]

Dude. That was an example of me thinking you had brain cells. Everybody else in the room, including you, you said, I don't even know what that means. What does gays mean to you?

[D]

Like, gays like vision.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. What the fuck?

[D]

It also is like, when would. First of all, when would I say that? Second of all, that night with my gaze. My boys.

[A]

I get.

[D]

It was amazing. Also, my other peak was. I don't know if this really stands as a peak, but you were on the best form of your agreed weekend.

[C]

Agreed.

[D]

And like, actually I was speaking about that with Will. 50 times this weekend. He was in. I've never seen him this happy.

[C]

Not one crash out. Like, no negative energy.

[D]

Best energy you've ever had. And I know you kept saying you didn't want to be a host, but, like, you basically did all that for us.

[B]

You were an awesome.

[D]

Actually, you were an awesome host. You were the. I've never seen that energy so high from you ever. Like, that was amazing.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

So you were awesome.

[A]

Can I tell you my worry?

[C]

You carried a vibe.

[A]

That feeling cannot be long lasting.

[C]

I knew you were going to say,

[A]

I am very concerned that now that I know what that feels like, it is going to make feeling shitty this week that much worse.

[D]

I know.

[B]

I feel.

[D]

I get the same way.

[B]

Pause. You should Tell him about the power going out.

[A]

Oh, I want to hear about the power going out. Because I don't even know. I got in the car. I said, stella, Elliot, get in the car. We're leaving. The power had just gone out, and I just get home. What happened?

[C]

We were sitting there. All of a sudden, obviously, everyone's phone stop charging. The WI fi goes out. My cell service is just horrendous. I cannot send a text without wi fi at&t fix that. Anywho, I literally. My phone didn't work for two hours. I had to go outside. Obviously, we're in the desert. The house is getting hot. Your worst nightmare.

[A]

He said it was hot.

[C]

It's getting hot. Ryan's shutting the doors, and Cass is lying outside. My phone doesn't work.

[D]

I had no thoughts.

[B]

This.

[C]

No.

[D]

I couldn't even comprehend what was happening. My phone was at 5%, and I was like, I'm just gonna let it die. Like, nothing matters.

[C]

And, you know, like, I'm, like, really good at just going with the flow. I usually don't get super stressed. I start to panic. I am walking around in the backyard holding my phone up. I start lying on the tennis court because I'm like, this is an open area, lots of sky. Maybe I can catch a fucking vibe out here. Maybe I can send a text or two. No, I'm lying on the tennis court. It is blazing fucking sun. I'm dripping fucking sweat. I'm so hot. I'm miserable. My phone's dead. I haven't had a text in two hours, but notifications are rolling through. Jake mentioned you in the story. Henry mentioned you in a story. Julia mentioned you in a story. I'm like, what is being posted of me? My phone's not working. And then I go inside, and this is when I know it's bad. The boys were in a bad vibe.

[D]

When Ryan is in a bad vibe, that's when you know it's bad.

[A]

And, like, how was he behaving?

[C]

Like, usually, like, when we're like, oh, my God. Ryan's like, it's fine. Like, let's get you an Advil. Let's get you a bagel. Let's get up. Let's play music.

[A]

Like, right.

[C]

I walk in there, right? Staring blank, sitting on the chair, holding his phone. Is your. Is your phone working? He goes, no, but you can try to use it. I go. And then he was like, I feel really sick. And I was like, this is making me really anxious that you don't feel well, because I need you to be there for me.

[A]

What were Luke's vibes?

[C]

He'd ask us a question and we'd answer, and he'd still have his noise canceling pods on, and he'd be like, what? I'm like, well, I just answered. Your headphones are still on. It was just like. And it happened for two hours. It was just like.

[B]

Honestly?

[A]

Water working?

[C]

Yeah. But, like, obviously when I'm sitting dripping sweat, my phone's not working. My phone's dead. I'm not gonna try to shower. That won't be blissful for anyone.

[A]

I would have showered.

[D]

I don't know what you would have done. I actually would have been terrified. You would have been pacing around the house back and forth.

[A]

So moral of the story is Coachella was the best weekend ever.

[C]

The best weekend ever. And this is us being positive. Like, Coachella was awesome.

[A]

Yeah. Enjoy the episode with Adela. It's amazing. She's amazing. Her new song KGB is out this Friday. It is fucking fantastic. She is actually so unbelievable. I cannot say enough positive things about how incredible I think she is.

[B]

She's so hot.

[C]

I'm so excited to listen.

[A]

Okay. I love you pussies. Enjoy the episode. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapuss. And tonight we have on pop superstar Adela.

[B]

Thank you for having me. Jake. Thanks for being here.

[A]

I'm so excited. I adore you.

[B]

I adore you. This is like a dream come true for me to be on Therapist. Honestly. Honestly. Yes, it is.

[A]

Well, thank you.

[B]

It's like winning a Grammy. I, like, have a speech for this. Imagine.

[A]

Imagine I'm, like, crying. Hi.

[B]

Say well. Honestly. Okay. Can I just tell you something?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

When I first, like, heard of the show Therapists, when it first came out, I was like, kind of. I was like, wait.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then you say, hi. I was like, man, I'm so confused. And then I got into it, and I understand it now. Yeah, yeah, I get it. But I'm kind of. Wait, I think I know. Like, did you review Octopus?

[A]

I reviewed octopus. I would, like, eat it.

[B]

That's.

[A]

And then. And then. Then I just needed a name for the podcast, and it kind of just.

[B]

Is that your favorite food? I'm interviewing you.

[A]

No, no, please. I mean, I appreciate it. It is. I love it. I just don't eat it as frequently as I used to.

[B]

Like, that's totally understandable.

[A]

In college, I would do it, like, four times a week.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Like, when I was, like, in the height of my review era.

[B]

Wow. Four times is a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love octopus too.

[A]

You do?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

How do you like it?

[B]

Prepared, grilled.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

But sometimes it gets a little tough, doesn't it?

[A]

Yes, yes. That's what I say. It gets tough and chewy.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

So you have to. You do have to actually review.

[A]

Yes, thank you. That's what I said. But then. Ever. Yes. Yeah.

[B]

It is a niche food, though. I. But I like that you. You found your niche.

[A]

Appreciate it.

[B]

Really, really. And it really worked out.

[A]

It really did. Somehow, some way, it really worked out. We need to talk about the fact that I just watched a music video for kgb.

[B]

Oh, yay.

[A]

And it's amazing. And it was filmed at the LA theater.

[B]

Thanks. It was shot at the LA theater downtown.

[A]

And how many looks in one day?

[B]

Nine.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I think we didn't have budge for more than one day, huh? And that's okay. We said we have one day. Okay.

[A]

And you made that shit work.

[B]

And we made it work. And it was so fun. It was so scary also. But, you know, that's fun too. Getting a little bit scared.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, okay.

[A]

What was, like, scary about it?

[B]

The. The schedule.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just like, okay, we have one day. 9 likes. It was just insane. I, like, had to dance and I had like two takes for every dance shot. And because they were like, okay, next look. I was like, oh, okay. So I was just like, I better get this right, right? And I did. At the end of the day, I did.

[A]

And you always do, by the way.

[B]

So, yeah, mostly I try.

[A]

You really always do.

[B]

Not in rehearsals. Right now I'm rehearsing for tour and I had a. I had a mental breakdown yesterday because it was the first run through and I was like, oh, my God, I suck. I suck. I suck. But I have those moments in private and then people. And then people can just be like, oh, that looks really good.

[A]

How do you feel better when you have those moments?

[B]

I actually don't feel better. I actually currently want to die.

[A]

Yeah, that's okay. Me too. Me. And by the way, I woke up, looked at Louise. Louise was trying to talk to me, and I just kept going like this.

[B]

The other day I did a run through of my show and it sounded so, so bad that I just was literally like, I was doing the choreo like this.

[A]

It's kind of cunty, though.

[B]

I was like, call me the kg. It's just like, whatever. Like, whose fault is that that I sound bad? Mine. So.

[A]

No, you don't.

[B]

Who am I mad at?

[A]

You are your harshest own harshest Critic.

[B]

Right. But then I was like, okay, you know when I'll start feeling better? When it sounds better and looks better, that's when I will start feeling better, honestly. So it's like, that's that.

[A]

That's that Russian training.

[B]

That is.

[A]

That's the Russian training. That's that Moscow training.

[B]

That Soviet training.

[A]

So.

[B]

So, you know, I think I just keep rehearsing, and when it starts sounding better, I'm like, okay, okay. And then I enjoy when it actually is looking good. But everything before that. Scary. So scary.

[A]

Were you this scared before? You did. You did, like, a bunch of, like, little shows. Little shows. But by the way, can I tell you, when I knew you were, like, something special? I mean, like, I really think you are something so beyond special. I mean, I know, like, who am I to say, like, I have no skin in the game, but I was

[B]

skin in the game. Please keep going.

[A]

I was at dinner. I was at dinner, and I looked to my left, and there was this whole group of people just watching your tour video at dinner, and they were like, and look at her do this and this. And I looked at my best friend Will, and I was like, do you see that? And I was like, everybody is talking about her.

[B]

Perfect. Perfect, perfect. I need more people to be talking about me.

[A]

Wait, no. I was at dinner with you. Yeah, I was at dinner with you and Owen. Theo. And Owen. Theo.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I love Owen.

[B]

Theo.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I love everybody that watches those videos at dinners.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I love it. That's really amazing. That's really sweet.

[A]

Yeah. And it was such a cool moment. It felt like this, like, cultural moment where, like, everybody was watching because, like, did you have any expectations for that tour?

[B]

Yes, I always have huge expectations. But it's like. But on myself, like, I know that when I get on stage, I will gag people. So I had an expectation of, like, I think people don't quite understand that I can gag the way that I can gag, which is a good thing to. To have. But I also was just, like, I felt zero pressure going into that tour because also, I was like, oh, this is, like, the first time that people are buying tickets. Like, I've been a performer my entire life. I've, like, done ballets. I've, like, done the show that I was on. But it's always, like, you dance in a ballet and you get to. You get to, like, dance the part. Right? But it's, like, about the story. Like, this was the first time that, like, people were spending their money and time to go see Me. Just be me. So I was like, oh, perfect. I actually feel zero pressure at all because I can just fuck around. Like, they paid to see this, right?

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay. Like, you know what? This is, like, it's me, so.

[A]

It's Adela.

[B]

It's Adela. It's the Adela show. Really?

[A]

Really? At the end of the day.

[B]

At the end of the day, it's the Adele show. So I was like, oh, amazing. Like, this is just all about me, and I can do whatever I want. And so that made me feel really calm. This tour is gonna be different because I'm opening for Demi, but she has been such a. An amazing, like, supportive, welcoming mentor that I'm like, I feel welcomed too.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, the Lobotics.

[A]

The Lobotics.

[B]

They're great.

[A]

Do you have a fandom name?

[B]

No. This is a sore subject.

[A]

Okay, tell me. Tell me more.

[B]

Like, people love names that I hate.

[A]

Like, what?

[B]

Adidas. Hate it. I hate it. That's the worst name ever. I think, like, Adaliens is funny.

[A]

Oh, I like Adeliens.

[B]

That people don't like it.

[A]

Wait, why?

[B]

I don't know. It's like, we, like, me and my fans are like, I feel like you

[A]

just need to decide and be like, this is it.

[B]

That's what I say. I'm like, this is the Adela show. Like, yeah. Again, like, hey, what I think goes, right. Clearly it doesn't. Like, I guess my fans is, like, the one thing that doesn't really.

[A]

Divas is giving, like, hey, bestie.

[B]

Adidas is going like. Like. And I. Okay, like, sometimes, but not all the time. I also like Adelephins, but that's like, people hate that one. Elephant is funny, But I love that one because to me, that's, like, stupid.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I can just go like, what up, Adelephins?

[A]

And then it immediately disarms people as well.

[B]

Disarms. Like, what did you just call me?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And a Delphin, obviously.

[A]

I will say I like a daily ends.

[B]

I like it Aliens, too. Or, like, there was, like, a delerina stuff.

[A]

Oh, that's kind.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Adele Arenas is kind, right?

[B]

Because I am a ballerina. It's, like, topical.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And you can be like, the adrs. Like, Adela Rena, right? No, I can be creative too.

[B]

Right, Right.

[A]

I can be creative, too.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe that's. Maybe that's the one. I don't know. I'm, like, actively looking, but I think most fandom names are terrible, to be honest.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Like, I enjoy very few.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Beehive I love.

[A]

I get most fandom names. The one I don't get, there are actually very few I don't get. Because when they are delivered with enough passion, I believe them. Do you know what I mean? Like, if the fandom delivers it, like, this is who we are. Oh, I got you.

[B]

I think most of them could be better. Arianator sucks. It's. It's so hard to pronounce. And I know that she doesn't even like that she wanted them to be called, like. Oh, she wanted them to be called tiny elephants.

[A]

She did.

[B]

Back in, like, whatever. My Ariana Grande history knowledge.

[A]

Wait, but can we talk about Ari for five seconds?

[B]

Yes, let's talk.

[A]

Because I am in a very big. We spoke about this the other day when we were going to each other, and I was. I get yelled at every single day when I'm at the gym. And I put on. Because I put on Ari, like, front to back.

[B]

You should never get yelled at.

[A]

And she walked in and she said, who put this on? And I said, me.

[B]

Can I, like, sit like this, please? Put shoes on the couch.

[A]

Yes. I'm going to take my shoes off.

[B]

I would, but my dogs would be out, so.

[A]

No, don't worry.

[B]

I don't feel that.

[A]

And also wearing Louboutins.

[B]

True, but they're, like, scuffed up.

[A]

But isn't that how they should be?

[B]

That. And. And I agree.

[A]

Isn't that how they should be?

[B]

And I agree. Red box. Like, that should be scuffed up.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

That's cunt. That's okay.

[A]

But you put me on to touch it. I like. I never heard touch it. I guess I'm like a bad Ari fan in that.

[B]

Arianator. Arianator.

[A]

But I. I love Ari. I just had never given Touch it really the moment it deserved. And you covered it at your show. And it was. I was like, it's so good.

[B]

It's my favorite Ariana song. One of my favorite ones.

[A]

What makes it your favorite?

[B]

The Passion. I also saw it at the Dangerous Woman tour. I was with my mom. How old was I? Like 12, 13? It was monumental. Like, it's ingrained. She was, like, doing the whistles at the end. She was, like, really putting her Ariana. See, like, her ponytail into it. Like, she, like, really, like, there was a growl. I was like, wow, this is just the best song ever. And then I also kind of like, like, growing up, like, like not being like the other girls. Like, I was like, oh, touch it. Like, I'm gonna put you on.

[A]

No, you Did.

[B]

You guys don't even know.

[A]

And you did.

[B]

And I did. At the end of the day, I did.

[A]

What are your other favorite Ari songs?

[B]

Leave Me Lonely. Same album. So good. By the way, I love my hair from positions because she does the outro all in whistles. It's amazing. What else? I love Honeymoon Avenue. Always Tattooed.

[A]

Always, always, always. I used to listen to that on the way to school every single morning. Back to back. Honeymoon Avenue and Tattooed Heart.

[B]

Oh, yes. I love. I love ghosting. It's. It's, like, historical. It's a period piece. Like, you had to be there. It was a time to be alive. I don't. I think, like, people who are like, you're gonna regret this. Why would she regret it? Everybody knows that she was engaged to Pete Davidson.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And that she said that he has a huge schlong. That's fine.

[A]

And then she said, God forbid something happened.

[B]

God forbid something.

[A]

At least the song is a smash.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And it was made history.

[B]

Like, it's honestly sickening. Like, name be messy. Like, music is the place to be messy.

[A]

I agree. I feel like a lot of people don't agree these days because I feel like this. Like, the. Like, the peanut gallery is very loud, and they're very loud, and it's. It takes someone like Ariana to just, like, be like, I care, but I'm gonna keep doing it despite the fact that I care.

[B]

Right. Exactly.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Like, you just need to, like, even with, like, eternal sunshine. Like, she spoke about her divorce. It's like, that's what makes people, like, feel something. Like, that's why people ride for that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's why I will ride for that bitch. That's why I would ride for Beyonce for the rest of my life. Like, these. These women, like, they said, Jay Z cheated on me. Lemonade, Right? Oh. Oh, okay. And, like, everybody knew everything. And that's so sick because.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, like, there's people out there that have been cheated on. I. I wasn't when I first watched that, but I felt it. Yeah, Chili, I felt it. I was there with my sister.

[A]

That's how I felt. Listening to, like, thank you. Next. The other day, like, I literally, two weeks, situationship ended front to back, and I was like, I know we're in different situations, but, like, the way that they're able to chronicle, like, the highs and lows of a relationship because the experience is so personal to them and you know what they're talking about, it helps you relate more.

[D]

Right.

[A]

You know what I Mean music.

[B]

That's the magic of music, baby.

[A]

That is. And do you find it difficult ever with, like, people, like, talking online and, like. Like, how does that affect you?

[B]

Not really, because I think I. I, like, wouldn't be doing my job if I let anybody telling me anything affect me. Like, my job is to be me to the fullest extent and, like, put that into my music. And obviously, like, sometimes you look at the Internet and people have so many opinions, but it's like, I was actually talking about this with my friends. Like, me and Lara were talking about this, and we were like, we need to stop, like, looking up our own names on Tik Tok. I do not have Twitter. That place is forsaken.

[A]

Okay. I recently have gone off Twitter.

[B]

And you shall stay that way.

[A]

And I used to really love it.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. It's really scary. It's. It's really funny when you're not the butt of the joke. And then it gets really scary and sad.

[A]

It gets really, really scary and sad. I'm like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[B]

And it's like, oh, my God. These people, like, they don't know me, and I don't know them. And anything that you could say to, like, try to make them understand you more will just. They'll somehow twist it to. They already have a preconceived idea of who you are, so it's like, there's no use to write it. Like, it's like, okay, just let them. Just let them. But that's. It's gonna free you because you, like, it genuinely is like, I think it's, like, the worst thing ever to understand that you're being perceived by so many people and, like, hear what they have to say about you. Like, I'm gonna be honest. Like, do you know who to Hollis is?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He would, like, talk about this, and he was like, I'm off social media. Like, whatever, Whatever. And I was like, okay, Hollis. Like, you're off social media. Yeah, But I was like. Like, hollis, you're right. Like, I should be off social media. Like, he was on. On to something. Because I was like. I started writing this album, and then there was a point in time that people started saying something on the Internet, and it. Like, I was thinking about writing songs differently because somebody said something, and I was like, oh, right, Wrong. I was like, that's wrong. I can't do that. So I just. I'm kind of off. Like, I'm very on the Internet, but I'm off Twitter. I do look up my own name on TikTok every morning still.

[A]

Every morning? Yeah, every morning.

[B]

But I should stop doing that. I'm, like, thinking of, honestly blocking. You know how you can, like, mute certain words? Yeah, I might mute my own name, but also, like, I'm not lit enough yet to be, like, really not looking if people are talking about me. Because the conversation is important. Like, I think once I'll get, like, really famous, then I'll be like, well, fuck it. Like, right now I know people. I know people are talking.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm, like, at peace with that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now I can just, like, move completely. Like, I don't have to look myself up, but right now I have to keep checking. I'm like, is Owen Thiel watching my video at dinner?

[A]

Right. And we were.

[B]

And you were. And that's great. That's great. You know what I mean?

[A]

Was. Was it. What did you delete after the. Like, the. After the documentary came out, or did you delete, like, more recently?

[B]

Honestly, I've had, like, waves. Like, I was looking myself up when the document documentary came out. It was really interesting because a lot of people, when you're on a reality show and you're a young girl who. People love to tear young girls into shreds. Like, they. This is just, like, their favorite pastime. They just, like, think that, like, we're the villains, which is like.

[A]

I think they also think you guys are, like, easy, vulnerable targets.

[B]

Right. But then also, at the same time, everybody, like, tries to be super woke and is like, well, if you're so

[A]

woke, then you shouldn't be on Twitter.

[B]

That part, I think that part. But. But, yeah. So people were really tearing into us. And not just me, like, my best friends who made it into the group, my friends who didn't make it into the group, like, everybody. All these young girls who, at the end of the day, spent almost two years of their life away from their families doing some really hardcore fucking boot camp training and, like, situate going through situations that you guys will never know, because obviously not everything was shown in the documentary. We're now also getting torn to shreds on the Internet by strangers. So I was like, this is so insane, obviously, and so crazy. But also I was like, it is not the time to be depressed about this. It is time to put out music about this, because people are talking about it, so they want to hear what I have to say. And I don't like talking. I like singing, so I shall sing about it. And that's kind of how my career started. So really I was just like, I didn't delete it. I didn't delete Twitter, I didn't delete social media. I was like looking at it. But I also had the understanding that I was like, okay, these people just don't understand me at all and know me. And that's okay because they haven't gotten the chance to. And I think still like I have seven songs out. Like people don't really know me. Like I think they'll get to know me eventually through like all my work. But. And they'll, I mean they will never know me. Like we'll never be friends, really.

[A]

We can't be friends.

[B]

We can't be friends. But I like to just pretend.

[A]

I used to think that song was about her ex husband, but I was convinced and swayed that I actually think it's about the press and the fans. I've heard, I've heard and I really believe it.

[B]

I believe it too. Because you have a love hate relationship. It's like you are so thankful for your fans and for the people that give you the life that you've ever wanted, you know, like the life that you've dreamed for yourself. But also it's like being parasocial is like a double edged sword honestly. Because to me like as a girl from Slovakia, like I was really parasocial with like the Ariana's and like the Beyonce's and the Gagas and like, and it honestly really helped me, the Mileys, like it really helped me growing up and like not being where I wanted to be. And like if there was a tough situation at home, like I had a place to go to always. So I actually love like being a parasocial figure to people because I'm like, this is something that I needed. So I get to be that for people that need it. But also sometimes it does affect you when those people start to like feel like they have some sort of like deciding power in your life, right?

[A]

That's when it gets really tricky because I also can relate to what you were saying. Like when I was a kid, like I would go to these pop stars as like those were my worlds, right? Like I feel like I felt like I was them in a sense. You know what I mean? Like I would watch Ariana, I would watch Taylor, I would watch Beyonce and I, I would like become daydream and yeah, I would daydream and like become that confidence that they exuded which is so beautiful.

[B]

Like that's why I love pop music because I'm like This is like. It's so. It's such a powerful thing. And I think a lot of people love to think about, especially the music that I do, like, think that it's stupid and it's like, whatever. But it's like, I know from experience that it means so much to so many people, but then, you know, and then you have. There's the pros and cons.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'd much rather be that for somebody and deal with the cons than not do what I do. You know what I mean? So you'll never catch me, like, complaining about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'll just be like.

[A]

Just recognize it.

[B]

Yeah. I'll just be like, okay, I get it. You guys think that we have a special bond and, like, we do.

[A]

But you can't decide what. How my life is going to play out.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

And that's why you like me. You like me because I make my own decisions and I have my own autonomy. So when you guys come and tell me how to live my life, that's when things change.

[B]

Yeah, that's when things. If I. If you listen to the people, I think that's when things stop working.

[A]

Yeah. I agree.

[B]

That's when, like, the difference between a pop star and, like, a true pop star is. You know what I mean? It's like the people that, like, then get swayed by the audience and, like, start not being authentic to themselves, or you're an Ariana and then you write thank you next about it. You know what I mean?

[A]

I. When you say those words to me, like, my entire body gets covered in chills.

[B]

I love it. I love. I love what I do. I love pop culture. It's so fun.

[A]

I love pop culture.

[B]

It is so fun.

[A]

Did do. And so you were a big Hannah Montana fan?

[B]

Huge.

[A]

Massive. Okay, so was she, like, biggest massive of all time. So what was that like when you went to the 20th anniversary? Did you meet Miley?

[B]

I didn't talk to her. She just passed by me, which, by the way, didn't even expect I would see her, like, up close like that. So I'm totally fine with not talking to her. Honestly, I might have preferred it because I think I would have shat myself. Like, I genuinely think I would have. Like, I would have malfunctioned. She passed by me. Sam, my manager, immediately tears. I immediately tears. I had to wait because it was photo time, so I couldn't tear up yet. So I was like, yeah, that's Miley Cyrus. I was like, oh, my God. And she was, like, blonde and Had a little bit of a bang. I was like, oh, my God. That's like Hannah Montana.

[A]

No, she was really Hannah. I've seen the special twice now.

[B]

No, no. It's really fucked up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so then I went. Did the photos. I passed by her. I was like, oh, my God. Like, I literally, like, heart in my ass. Like, I was like. And then I went and sat down. Jojo Siwa sat right in front of me. So that was, like, also fire.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I got to hear Jojo's voice, like, singing a lot to the songs. I was like, this is honestly my dream come true. Like, I'm not fucking kidding. Like, I was like. And she. That girl was meant to be a star. I don't give a fuck. Like, everyone was singing along, singing along to this Is the Life, but you could just hear this Is Life. Like. Like, Jojo's voice, Like, it fucking cuts through. Like, she has a voice.

[A]

She does.

[B]

She has a voice. She does.

[A]

She's Jojo.

[B]

She's Joelle. I was so hyped. I was sitting right behind her. I was like, yes.

[A]

And without people like her, what would we do?

[B]

What would we do? And you love to watch her. And that's what entertainment is about, isn't it?

[A]

Yes. Karma Fire song.

[B]

Karma Fire Song.

[A]

The Karma Fire song.

[B]

What is it?

[A]

Karma's a Bitch.

[B]

Bette Davis Fire Fire cover. She covered it and brought it to the new generation. Now the new generation knows Bette dav.

[A]

You heard her through the whole crowd.

[B]

It was palpable, I think. I think if I sat on the other side of the theater, I would have heard her. But, like, genuinely, like. Like, it was because I'm saying, like, she has a voice. Like, there's something. She was meant to be a fucking star.

[A]

And she can dance.

[B]

She can dance no more. JoJo si. Westlander.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm sick of it. Like, she's a. She's a personality. And she figured it out. She found her niche. Bows and raspy vocals.

[A]

Yeah. And, like, what would we do without her? Like, it really. Like, really, what? Do without her.

[B]

Well, what would you do with all that?

[A]

Doesn't she make you smile?

[B]

Yeah, doesn't she make you smile?

[A]

It's true.

[B]

She's. She's everything to me. Like, whatever. So JoJo was sat right in front of me.

[A]

Joel.

[B]

Joel. Joel. And I just, like, bawled through the entire thing because I just love Miley. And it was so emotional. And I was like, I can't even believe that. I'm, like, in in this theater. Like. Like, being invited to this. Like, I really grew up thinking that Hannah Montana was, like, some Slovak girl. Because they dub it over.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so. So I was like, oh, I thought that she was just Slovak.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Oh, sorry. Oh, they. When you watched it in Slovakia, it

[B]

was like, it wasn't. It was in Czech, but it's like, Czechoslovakia used to be, like, we used to be girls. Like, we used to be together, right? So. So I was just like, oh, she's, like, from a neighboring country. Like, she's, like, down the street.

[A]

How would she say Sweet Niblets?

[B]

I don't remember, actually, but I, like, didn't know that was Sweet Nebulaets for, like, the longest time.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But, yeah, like, to me, that's who she was. And that was my introduction to being a pop girl. And then my older brother was like, oh, no, honey, she's American. And I was like, oh, like, I have to learn English.

[A]

And that's how you started learning English.

[B]

Right?

[A]

It is crazy.

[B]

And so to me, it's like, again, parasocial, but so needed. Like, when my parents were fighting, I would turn that all the way up, blast me some Hannah Montana, and, like, learn English and my. On my, like, in my AirPods, because I was like, I'm gonna be that one day. Like, it was. It's genuinely the catalyst for my career and for my life and for what I love to do.

[A]

How did you learn English? By watching Hannah Montana. Would you, like.

[B]

So I basically, I found out through her that they were speaking English. So then I switched it to English, like, on. On tv. And then I started watching all of her interviews, and then I genuinely would just watch everybody's interviews. I would do, like. I was. I was eight when I was like, okay, I have to learn English because I had a whole plan. I was like, I'm eight years old. I have a couple years to learn English. By 15, I'm gonna fly out to California. I, like, looked up the address of the Disney Channel headquarters. I was like, okay, wrote it down. I was like, period. I'm gonna. Or I'm gonna audition during pilot season. I was like, why the fuck do you know what pilot season is? Like, you're eight years old in Slovakia. It's, like, so strange, But I was just like. I had a whole vision. I had a plan. So I was like, it's now. Like, the time is now. I have to learn English. And so I was like, okay. So I was watching her interviews. I was watching Ariana's interviews. I was watching Beyonce interviews, like, Gaga. And then slowly but surely, like, I honestly don't even know what happened. I think one day I just realized I had the subtitles on so I could read in slowback what it meant. But I think one day I was just like, wait, I just understand. Like, I was like, it's also.

[A]

Cause you're eight and your brain is still developing, so it's developing with that.

[B]

It's like a sponge. You know what I mean? Like, I was, like, soaking it all up.

[A]

I mean, in a sense, you lived with them.

[B]

Yes. Like, I. That's all I would do. And I would, like, then act like, once I realized I can understand, I was like, let me try talking. And so I would, like, see them on Ellen. And so I would like. Sorry, But I would just.

[A]

It was a moment.

[B]

It was a moment in time.

[A]

It happened. We can't pretend that it did it. We can't pretend that it.

[B]

Okay. On Fallon. Like, I was sitting on Fallon, and I would sit in my room and I'd be like, yes, Jimmy. Like, whatever. Like, I would act like I was being interviewed, and then I would, like, hear how they're saying their words. I would, like, mouth it with them. I was like, 1, 2. Jimmy Fallon, Ellen DeGeneres. I was like, that's like, that was my thing. And then within a year, I just could speak English. It was really strange.

[A]

If you ever need a check, you should really reach out to duolingo. I think that they would really give you.

[B]

The thing with duolingo is I don't think it works.

[A]

You don't think duolingo works at all?

[B]

I. I think it's fake news.

[A]

Tell me more. Because I'm pretty sure Manny is trying to learn Spanish through duolingo right now.

[B]

I think it's fake news. As somebody who's learned an English really well, like, people sometimes don't know that I'm not from here. I think the only way you can learn a language is just, like, what I did. Like, you need to, like, immerse yourself. You need to be watching movies in Spanish.

[A]

I mean, Manny's phone is in Spanish.

[B]

Good, Good. That's what she should be doing. But I don't know if duolingo is doing that work for her. I'm like, it probably keeps her accountable. Like, it's like, you need to do it right. But that's really the only way. She should honestly go to Spain. Not that I want you to lose her.

[A]

No, I. I would.

[B]

You would leave with her?

[A]

I would. I would go with Her.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

That's my girl.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

That's girl.

[B]

So you guys should just go to like Spain or you know, like South America and just like figure it out. And figure it out because she wants to learn Spanish. I think that's the only way.

[A]

Really what I was gonna ask you was because when I was watching, not to bring it back to Hannah Montana, but when I was watching the special, I was like, so many of these songs really, to me, like, stand the test of time. And I don't know if that's the writing, if that's the composition, if that's Miley or if it's all of it. But like I was like listening to this is the Life.

[B]

So good.

[A]

And I was like. Because I remember when I was a kid and my dad would hear no a lot, he would listen to the Climb as like a 50 year old guy. And that's when I realized that like Miley was very universal in like her delivery and appeal. And like, I thought the Climb was kind of the only example of that. But then when I was watching the special and I heard this is the

[B]

Life, I was like, yeah, it puts things into perspective.

[A]

Hold on tight.

[B]

The hold on tight line really gets you, huh?

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

I mean, when she's saying it, like Sam will tell you. I was bawling. I was like, oh my God. Because these songs, honestly, when I heard them as a kid, I didn't know what they meant, not one bit. Because.

[A]

But you're not supposed to.

[B]

Well, you didn't know, but I really didn't know because I didn't even speak English. So this is the wife. Like, I don't like, like, I was like, really? Like, I was like off my rocker. Like it was really sounding like a foreign. I thought that it was like music, language. I was like, oh, this is just like what you do. This is just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I was like, okay. But now I listened back and I was like, these songs are so a well written. She was singing down and performing and selling as a 12 year old. Like she had it in her to be like, this is the live. Like, yeah, as a 12.

[A]

She meant that shit.

[B]

She meant it. I'm like, wow, like, what a. What a protege you were to be able to do that at such a young age. It's so good.

[A]

Is that your favorite Hannah song?

[B]

No, I kind of love. Oh my God. What is that one? That like sounds like a Britney song kind of like. Oh, not. It's actually not the one that I'm gonna get this. No, no, no, no, no. But that's a good one. Yeah, I like. I like. Life is just a party, so come as you never get your guitar.

[A]

Yeah. Which one is that, Louise?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Everybody's rocking, like, oh, yeah. My favorite is the climb. Just because I feel like that it's. It will always, like, resonate with me. Like, I was really depressed in a car with her and my tour manager, Matt, and I was, like, so depressed and all, and I had this moment where I was thinking about, like, the next thing, and then the climb came on, and I looked around.

[B]

You cried?

[A]

And I. Well, no, but I. But I was like. I looked around, and I was like, but once I get to that place, I'm gonna think about the moments that this. These moments.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

Because it really is not about where you go. It's about how you get there.

[B]

You want to know the craziest part? My boyfriend's dad made that song with her.

[A]

Shut up. Shut up.

[B]

That's really. Like, when my boyfriend told me that, I was already like, oh, like, you are so sick. Like, I want to be with you. And then he's like, my dad made the climb. I was like, oh, it's wraps. I'm in this family. I love it here.

[A]

Like, I was like, isn't your boyfriend a producer as well?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Jackson Shanks. Shout out to him.

[A]

Yeah, I met him outside of Pache once.

[B]

Yes, you did. You did.

[A]

I was like, do I know you? He said. And I said, totally. Got it.

[B]

Yes. He told me. He was like, he thought you knew me. I was like, maybe he did. I don't know.

[A]

He looked weird. He looks so familiar.

[B]

He's just, like, hot white guy.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

They all kind of look alike.

[A]

How'd you guys meet?

[B]

Our producer set us up. So he signed to Blake Slotkin, who's executive producing my album. And so I had just gone through an ugly, ugly breakup. I was, like, four months into it or, like, three months out of it. I was just like, oh, my God. Like, I'm over this guy. But also, I met him on Hinge. I was like, I'm not ever gonna be on Hinge again. Like, I'm not going there. I'm not going on Fuck Ass Raya. Like, I'm not doing so. I was like, where am I even gonna, like, meet a man? And he was like, you should just get set up by somebody. I've always been set up by people. And I was like, well, why are you talking about it. Instead of doing it, like, set me up, and he sent me up with my boyfriend, and now we've been dating for almost a year.

[A]

Happy. Almost one year. That's amazing.

[B]

Thanks. It's actually. It's been. He's been so sweet and so silly.

[A]

Yeah, he's lovely. Very kind.

[B]

He's very kind. Very kind. And we don't make music together. Because I said no.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Except when it's not scary. Like, I love when somebody, like, collabs with their boyfriend, and then it's also, like, a test of time. Like, it. Like, once they're out of it, like, I just love the whole thing. I honestly. Yeah, I honestly would want to. One day. This is my, like, big plan. One day I want to, like, collab with an example on a song when we're broken up and we're, like, getting hella ugly on the song together. About each other.

[A]

So. Silver Springs.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I think it was just her singing. Like, I won both pov.

[A]

Oh. Like, at each other.

[B]

Like, you know somebody. Somebody that I used to know. Yeah, like that.

[A]

Yeah. But, like, adding each other. I love, like, how you're so open and honest about, like, your dreams and being like, I'm gonna get this. Because you have got. You are getting it.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But a lot of people are so, like, scared to say what they want. And then when you send people, when they say what they want can get, like, so, like. Well, they're never going to get that. So I think it's, like, super cool for, like, young girls to see you be like, I want this and I'm getting it.

[B]

I think that's the vibe. I think also, like, there's a lot of things that I want that I haven't said. Like, I would love to take care of my mom one day financially. And that's really a big goal of mine. Like, all this, like, success, whatever, is really, really, like, for me to do that one day. So it's like. And obviously I love singing, but it's like, there's things that, like, I think people don't know that are, like, way more personal things where I'm like. I mean, it's clear. Like, I'm trying. I'm popping my puss on stage. I'm trying to sing all the songs. I'm trying to hit all the notes. Like, you can see what I'm trying to do here. Like, I'm.

[A]

You're hungry for it.

[B]

Yes. Like, I'm not gonna act like I'm not. But there's also, like, a Lot of, like, human ness and goals that I don't, like, necessarily talk about that much. But it's like, why would I not say that I want it when I clearly want it? Like, I wouldn't be doing, like, little club shows where I'm, like, belting my heart out and, like, dropping into a split and, like, doing it back then, like, whatever, if I didn't want it.

[A]

I also think there's this, like, inherent thing with female musicians where the world thinks that they need to give it to you. Do you know what I mean? It's, like, you have to be, like, humble and, like, gracious and not say what you want. Whereas, like, a guy can get on there and be like, right, I. I'm the best. I'm the baddest. I'm the best. I'm the best. And I think it's like, when the males, like, it's very gaga of you to get up there and be like, this is what I want.

[B]

Well, because doesn't everybody want that?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And that's the gag is you think, like, there's some artists that, like, don't care about it. Everybody cares about it. It. Everybody wants to sell an arena. Everybody wants to do it. And it's not like, it's a bad thing to want to be successful. Like, to me, that's why I, again, loved Beyonce growing up, because she was like, I always wanted this. But she also shows you how much work she puts into it. Like, I've seen the Homecoming movie 13 times. Seriously, I've. Like. Like, and I think who else is doing that? Like, Zara Larson is also doing that right now. And, like. Like, she's been somebody that's been working on it for so long, and she's finally getting her flowers. God bless. And, like, for good reason. She's so great at what she does. And I think that's. I think essentially it's like, if you put in the work, not saying that you want it feels, like, stupid. It's like, so what am I, like, putting all this work to, like, Naga anywhere, Right? No. And I think, honestly, for a lot of men, they don't have to put in that much work to get there. So maybe that's where, like, like, and then they're the ones that get to brag. It's like, okay, like, what are we. What are we talking about here? Like, I'm just so confused.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

But anyways,

[A]

I need to give the world's biggest shout out to Poppy and every single person on that team. Emmy, I love you so much. It is incomprehensible how much I love you and your entire team. The Jake Estate. Like, I felt like a prom queen. Like, I really felt like a prom queen. It was really fucking awesome. And thank you guys so much. And, like, every room I went to, I could grab a poppy soda. Like, it was awesome. It felt like the soda fountain in Zoey 101 when they, like, pour out that drink blitz. That's what I felt like. Everything was perfect. Every room was so thoughtful. Everyone on that team was so incredible to be around. Me and my friends had the best time. I'm the most anxious host, and you guys made it so that hosting a big group of people was so enjoyable. And on that note, also, thank you, popery. And on that note, thank you, Poppy, for sponsoring tonight's episode. Poppy has been my favorite soda since the moment it touched my damn lips. But poppy, for those that don't know is a better for you soda. 5 grams of sugar, prebiotics. It's just incredible. And I am so grateful that they are a sponsor for this episode. It's the best soda in the world. Every flavor is genuinely so great. So poppy. Thank you for the most incredible weekend at the Jake estate. Find poppy at your nearest retailer or order it on Amazon.com this episode of Therapist is brought to you by booking.com booking. Yeah, it is almost bachelor bachelorette season, and booking rooms for bachelor and bachelorette parties is very, very difficult because everybody has an opinion and everybody has different things that they would like. Booking.com makes it easy to find a place where everyone's opinions are heard and everyone finds the place they want to stay. Seriously, like, where you are staying for a bachelor bachelorette party should be the least of your worries. The most important thing should be spending time with your friends, and that honestly goes for all trips. And that's why booking.com is the best, because it creates that base of, like, you have a place to stay and now you can focus on the activities and the actual things to do. And also, if you want to, like, well, round your trip out, you can book a car on booking.com like, there are so many things you can do. It's not just hotels. You can book houses. Like, summer's coming up. Everyone's trying to plan a trip. Booking.com is really the place to do it. I know me and my friends are [e-mail] right now to book our summer travels. As you guys know, when I was on tour, Matt literally used booking.com for everything. Every single city we Went to. He would just type in. Because Louise has a different preference, Manny has a different preference, I have a different preference. And we always found somewhere that met every single one of those needs. And that is all because of booking.com. so find exactly what you're booking for at booking.com booking. Yeah. Book today on the site or in the app. Can we. Can I ask you about your album?

[B]

Yes, I guess.

[A]

Right. How's it going?

[B]

My album is going so good. I'm actually so excited about it. I'm actually.

[A]

Yeah. Well, thank God.

[B]

No, I. So with this album, my big goal was just to make music that I would want to listen to. And I know everybody always says that, but with my ep, I think everybody. Everything was so, like. I was almost trying to catch up to the momentum that had come my way because I had zero support from a label for a good chunk of the first releases. Like, I was indie. I had just come off this documentary where I very publicly got rejected from being a part of Cat's Eye. Like, it was just, like, a thing. And so I was like, okay, like, I gotta keep putting shit out to, like, prove something to people. And I think those were also some of the first songs that I've ever written, and I had to put them out right away. And so not written, but, like, made.

[A]

Yeah, so.

[B]

And I had.

[A]

Because you wrote that one song in the documentary that I loved, by the

[B]

way, Dream Bitch, that might have been one of my first songs that I ever written.

[A]

It's called Dream Bitch, right?

[B]

I think so.

[A]

I really loved it. I was like, I need to ask her if she's ever planning to put that out. Because I really was moved by it when they were playing it.

[B]

I am not planning to put that ever. Okay, got it.

[A]

Great. I'll find it online.

[B]

Yeah, you can scroll down on my TikTok. But I always loved songwriting. I just, like, never was in the studio and, like, made a song. And then as soon as I started making them, I started putting them out. So anyways, all that to say, the ep, as much as I think those songs, you know, they served a purpose at the time and got me to where I needed to get. I don't think it was, like, the most authentically me yet, like, sound yet. And also, like, I don't think they were. They're not necessarily songs that I listened to, honestly, Like, I really wanted an album that I was like, I want to play this every day. And I think that's what these songs are for me, not. Not to shit on My old songs, because I hate when artists do that because those songs can mean so much to so many people. But I think to me, it was just like. I don't think I was, like, quite there yet. And it wasn't completely. My taste wasn't refined yet, but that's okay. Yeah. And, hey, I think, like, with this album, it's more refined, but probably my next album will be even more refined. Like, that's how it goes. Right? So with this album, I just. I'm. I really love the songs. I listened to them. I was listening to them on my way here. It's really. It's really girly. It's really fun. I think my EP was, like, a lot of, like, messaging and, like, there was, like, a lot of, like, this is what it's about. And it was like. There was a lot of, like. Like, I needed to take a stand on some things. And, like, there was like, a lot of, like. Like, Like, I was just like, this is my message.

[A]

Right, but that was your message at the time.

[B]

Yes. Yeah.

[A]

That's how you felt at the time,

[B]

and I did this time. There are songs where I get very vulnerable, but I also, like, explore, like, love and, like, you know, just feeling hot and then also feeling heartbroken and etc. So I think it makes me a little bit more human instead of. I think my EP was such a response to what had happened on the show and, like, what the people. And the. The people were saying about me and, like, my first experience of being exposed to, like, an audience. This album is just, like, me around and being a person, which I like more, you know, I'm so excited, so I. I really, really am so excited, and I can't wait to perform it everywhere. Yeah, I'm really, really happy with it. Honestly.

[A]

I'm so happy for you. And selfishly, I'm really excited to listen to it.

[B]

Not selfishly, like, please listen. Yes, please.

[A]

I'm so excited for you. I will say I don't think you're giving yourself enough credit for how vulnerable those songs are. They are very vulnerable, and I think you really should give yourself more credit for that, because it's not how you feel right now, but it's how you felt then. And you were really honest at a time where you could have hid away. And I think that was something really cool and something people really resonated with.

[B]

It's true. I actually. It's true. I did eat, actually. You're right. You're right, you're right. I mean, it's just Hard when you're an artist. And, like. Like, now I'm so out of that, where I'm like. Because they're also, like, the only seven songs I have out. So I think now, like, the people that have listened to that ep, I think they might expect something from the album that's kind of similar. And I just. I think I want to make it clear, like, I am a person. And, like, that was something. The EP and the messaging of that was something that was pressing to me at the moment. But overall, like, I have had more experiences than that. And, like, there's also more to me than just, you know, everything that that was about. So, I mean, I don't know. I think I'm gonna, like, get a lot of new people listening because it's a. It's a. I think a lot more, I would say, relatable. It's like a general audience, which is really good.

[A]

Are you still working with Alex Chapman?

[B]

No, not on this album. But I love Alex.

[A]

I love Alex. He did what? Sex on the Beat.

[B]

Yes, he did. Sex on the Beat. I love Alex.

[A]

Yeah, He's a kid.

[B]

Key. And I love Gag. Yeah, Gag. The party who's.

[A]

Oh, that's his party that he puts on. I thought Gag was a person for a second, and I was like, who?

[B]

In la? In la.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I love Gag. I would have been like, okay, great.

[B]

Me too. I love him.

[A]

What are you therapist about today?

[B]

I'm therapist about my ass hurting from dancing and my workout the other day that I saw you at my ass hurt.

[A]

It was leg day for me.

[B]

Leg day?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Has been hurting so badly for the past few days. I can sit down straight.

[A]

You need a massage?

[B]

Yeah, But I'm also rehearsing, so it's like, I can't really get a massage. Like, there's no time. I have zero time to do anything, but I, like, literally have to sit down like this.

[A]

You're sitting like as if you just got a BBL and you're back on the plane. Do you know the people that, like, go and travel to get bbls and they have. Have the BBL season, they sit like this.

[B]

I'm on the Turkish Airlines flight from my bbl.

[A]

Have you seen the BBL seats? Is there something. It's a sight to behold.

[B]

Yes, but that's what it is.

[A]

Whenever I'm sore, though, I feel like. Like, at least I moved, but I just.

[B]

I'm like, there's ways.

[A]

But you move a lot.

[B]

I move a lot. And I also, like, literally today I Was I woke up and I. Like, Immediately. The first thing that I did, I felt pain. Immediately I went. I was like, ow. And I was. I was kind of pissed because I was like, this is gonna be the rest of my life. Like, I'm. You never stop being sore, like, when you work out, but you should take care of yourself.

[A]

You should find, like, 30 minutes in a day.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no. But I'm. It's genuinely, like, right now because we're, like, rehearsing for the tour, and I have to, like, cut vocals for the album, and I'm trying to also. Like, I had to have therapy yesterday.

[D]

No.

[A]

And I was just screaming, like, screaming. I was like, that's really good. It felt good. I left, and I was like, I feel better. She was like, well, why don't you write a pros and cons list about them? And I was like, word. Okay. So I wrote a pros and cons list. And then I called him after, and I was like, I just talked so much about you during therapy. Here are my pros, and here are my cons.

[B]

You're my favorite person ever. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Wait. That's amazing.

[A]

It was pretty awesome. And then he was like. He tried to come back at me. I said, you're gaslighting me. He said, well, did you tell her about. I said, sure did.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What? Is he a straight man?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

When a street man. Street would always think that they're eating when they're not eating.

[A]

I told him I was sad yesterday, and he said, just feel better. What?

[B]

Why didn't I think of that?

[A]

Why didn't I think of that? I said, I hate when you say that.

[B]

Why didn't I think of that? Thinking so much.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

Thanks so much. Straight men just have the audacity.

[A]

They really do. Well, because they've never had to worry.

[B]

They've never had to worry. Everything has been quite easy for them. And I've said this to my boyfriend, too. I was like, you have. Like, you guys just need to. Like, you guys need to struggle. Especially when a straight man is hot.

[A]

It's unfair.

[B]

Unfair. And somehow my boyfriend is also funny.

[A]

No, that's not fair.

[B]

It's not fair. And it's tough sometimes because they. They really have. So he's funny, straight, talented.

[A]

Talented.

[B]

He has it all. I was like, do you understand who you're dating? I was like, I'm a. I'm from Slovakia. Like, I'm not supposed to be in this bed right now.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm supposed to be in Slovakia.

[A]

You did say you wanted to try kachas.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And that wasn't from me. She saw the. Do you like sour?

[B]

Yes, I love sour.

[A]

Okay, here, These are the sour gummies. They're great. These are the non sour.

[B]

Wait, it has no gelatin.

[A]

Yeah, they're vegan.

[B]

Wait, should we do asmr?

[A]

Yeah. Do you want help? They're really good. Yeah, they're vegan. I'll give you the full. The full story.

[B]

Gummy, sparkly vegan.

[A]

You like?

[B]

I love cachos. It's actually really good.

[A]

Right? They're fire, right?

[B]

They're really fire. Wow.

[A]

No. And then you can't stop. And the aftertaste also hits.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. That's the best flavor. Go for that one. Right, right, right.

[B]

This is fire.

[A]

I know. I feel like I got very lucky.

[B]

Wait. Congrats.

[A]

Thank you. They were looking for a us partner, and I was like, wait. Because I've actually. My best friend, Brett brought them home from a snack expo two year, three years ago. And I was like, no way. He was like, this gummy? Yeah. Right? And I was like, wait, please float my name by them. I'd love to meet with them. And. And now we're making candy magic happen.

[B]

This is really good.

[A]

No, it's really good.

[B]

This is amazing, huh?

[A]

We'll give you a few packs.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They're fire. Fire. Fire. Fire.

[B]

I'm so excited for you.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

And I don't see anything bad and

[A]

that, like, I just, like, really, like, aligned with, like, the company's, like, morals and, like, their, like, the way that they view life and, like, like. And I know that sounds silly, but, like, when I met with the team, like, the way that they viewed the world was, like, very similar to, like, the way, like, I want to, like, approach the world. And, like, it just really was kismet at the end of the day. And it worked. And now we're working together.

[B]

This is so good. I also only ate a bar and this is my, like, real first food.

[A]

No, they're fire.

[B]

It's really good. They're fire thing right now.

[A]

I'm so happy we have.

[B]

And there's many a packs and there's a unicorn.

[A]

We'll send them. We'll. We'll send you a big box. For your tour.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

For your rider.

[B]

Yes. Wait, I'm actually obsessed.

[A]

No, they're good, right? Like, they're. They're like fire. Fire. If you go to an amc, you can get them at amc.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. So have you seen Project Hail Mary yet?

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. If you go to see Project Hail Mary.

[B]

Wait, which one is that? Because aren't there. Aren't there, like, two Hail Mary movies right now?

[A]

No, it's just that it's that big, so you're probably thinking that there's two, but, like, everybody. Everybody is talking about it. And, like, I was like, okay, I'm Go to the movies.

[B]

And I saw it last night with Ryan Gosling.

[A]

Yeah. And I was very moved.

[B]

Really? Because.

[A]

No, no. Really.

[B]

I was not gagged by the billboard. I keep seeing it, and he's like, it looks like. Like a Marvel movie.

[A]

No. So there are elements where it can be confusing, but you kind of just have to go with it. Would you agree with.

[B]

Yeah, it was fantastic.

[A]

Like, I was so. I was. I was. I, like, cried. I. Like, a few tears were shed. Like, I was very moved. I was very, very, very moved.

[B]

Have you seen Hamnet?

[A]

Yes. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh. That win was deserved. It was the least.

[B]

It was disastrous to me.

[A]

I was like, yeah, it was guttural. When she. Like, that whale she lets out when her son dies.

[B]

I've never seen anything like that. I was like, I feel like I'm watching a documentary.

[A]

That's how I felt during that moment. That's. I was like, do they know the cameras are rolling?

[B]

Yeah, I know. I was like, I forgot that they're acting. That was the first time that little kid.

[A]

Acting down.

[B]

Acting down.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It was so good. I watched it in a movie theater, and I was like, I wish. I honestly didn't, because I wanted to literally go, like. Like, I wanted to, like, let out a whale. Like, I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

I wish I saw it in a theater. So.

[B]

But instead, I had to be like. Like, I was, like, shaking.

[A]

Yeah. Any other movies you've seen lately that you love? What are you watching right now?

[B]

I never watch anything because I actually lie. I started to watch a lot of. A lot more movies this year, but usually I would be, like, completely bone dry. Like, I'm not watching anything interesting, kind of. And it was a really bad trait because I think, obviously, movies are a great outlet for, like, inspiration, whatever, but I just, like, I never, like, shows. Too much of a. Too much of a commitment.

[A]

I'm a show guy.

[B]

It's just that if I watch a show, I'm so obsessed that I'm gonna need to binge watch it.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

I can't do that.

[A]

You don't have the time.

[B]

I don't have the time. And so it would be. It would be detrimental. It would be detrimental to my business if I started a show like, I can't do it and then movies. I just like, never got into it for some reason. Like, I was like, I never, never in my head, I'm like, oh, like I should watch a movie. But this time I did. I watched Virgin Suicides.

[A]

Have you never seen.

[B]

Really great.

[A]

But it's great.

[B]

Really great. I watched Girl Interrupted also never seen, but have been.

[A]

It's been on my mind lately.

[B]

You said. Because I remember when I. When I was 15, I cut micro bangs on accident and I posted a thirst strap on Tick Tock and somebody trying to make me feel better was like, oh, you kind of resemble Angelina Jolie and Girl Interrupted. And I was like, okay, I should probably watch that movie. Do I think that I resembled her? No, I think they were like, great compliment. But they. It was a great. At the time, it really picked my spirits up.

[A]

Okay, maybe I'll watch it in bed tonight. I was. I'm not really drinking right now, so I think I'm gonna. Yeah, you should lay in bed, smoke a joint and watch Girl interrupt it.

[B]

Honestly, you should. It's a really. It's a really good movie. What else? Moonrise Kingdom. Have you seen?

[A]

Have I seen?

[B]

So good.

[A]

What's it about?

[B]

It's like I can't even explain it to you.

[A]

You just have to watch Moonrise Kingdom. Why does it sound so familiar?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, no, I have not seen that. So I've seen Moonlight.

[B]

I haven't seen that.

[A]

It's great.

[B]

Budapest. Grand Budapest Hotel.

[A]

Haven't seen that.

[B]

Another Wes Anderson. I really got into that.

[A]

Maybe I haven't seen Wes Anderson stuff is what I'm thinking.

[B]

You should. You should. Because it's really nice to look at.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's awesome. It's like kind of strange. Like it's whimsical as fuck.

[A]

You know what? I also recently saw that I was like, I really, really, really, really, really enjoyed. This was Train Dreams.

[B]

Oh, okay. I've been actually wanting to watch it.

[A]

It's. It takes.

[B]

Not again.

[A]

No, this happens. What is this? Oh, it's my fake doctorate.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Why does that. Oh, and the fake plant.

[B]

It's okay. You handled that gracefully.

[A]

That fly said you handled that.

[B]

Really? You handle that.

[A]

Moving on from movies. Should we get into the. Tell me what's wrong.

[B]

Wait. Yes, but before we do that, you need to go watch hoppers.

[A]

Hoppers?

[B]

Oh, I've heard Hoppers is amazing.

[A]

Wait I've heard of this.

[B]

What is this animated movie. You need to watch it. It's awesome.

[A]

What's it about?

[B]

Like, the environment. It sounds kind of like animals, right? Like the environment. But honestly, like, I don't even. Like. It's kind of like Avatar. Like, it's kind of like Avatar, but Pixar. About the environment. It's Pixar. Yes.

[A]

Sold.

[B]

Yeah, it's awesome. It's like the first Pixar movie in a while that I was like, this was brilliantly done. Meryl Streep is voicing.

[A]

She is?

[B]

Yes. She's voicing a character. I might be wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong. You're not.

[A]

No. Right?

[B]

You're not Meryl Streep. Dave Franco voicing a character. Yes. Amazing. Go watch it. It's honestly funny. I giggled. I laughed. I almost cried. The animals animation is so cute. It has everything.

[A]

Okay. I'm gonna try to convince my friends instead of going out tonight that we should go back to her house, get high, and watch Hoppers.

[B]

I think you should go see it in theater. I don't know if it's on streaming. It's not yet. You have to go to the theater.

[A]

You are a little cinephile.

[B]

He said it's not.

[A]

Do you have a letterbox?

[B]

No, I don't. I actually do. I lied. I do.

[A]

You know what? Keep that. I do keep that close to you. I actually keep that close.

[B]

I actually do have a letter box. But do I really, like. I mean, I haven't logged, like, the last 15 movies.

[A]

I don't log anymore. I used to, and then I stopped.

[B]

Yeah, I did, like, three movies, and I was like, oh, my God. And I wrote, like, an essay for each one. Then I forgot.

[A]

Got right. You're. You are well versed.

[B]

I've been trying to.

[A]

Okay. Do you know about the Tell me what's wrongs.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Also, we do have to FaceTime Emily and say hi to her.

[B]

Yes, we do.

[A]

Because I love her.

[B]

No, she would not. She would not forgive me if I didn't do that.

[A]

It makes me really happy that you guys are still really close, because that moment at the end of Dream Academy, we're extremely close. And comfort her was, like, really something special.

[B]

One thing the show gave me is friends for life. Like Laura, Megan, Emily. Like this. Yeah, Those are my girls. Truly.

[A]

That's beautiful.

[B]

Yeah, we are. We are heavily involved, and it's hard

[A]

to make actual friendships when you're fighting for the same spot.

[B]

Right. But. But I knew That I wasn't gonna make it into the group. So I was like, oh, whatever.

[A]

You felt like they had their people.

[B]

And I was like, this is not the place for me. But really, it was just like, you can't. Like, honestly, all of us were so different, so it's like you can't compare each other.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we only had each other. Like, the girls had to. Had to stay tight because we couldn't tell anybody about anything.

[A]

Right. You guys got in so much trouble that one episode.

[B]

Yeah. For the finstas, I was like, really? Really?

[A]

They came in that. We have never seen anything like this before. I thought somebody brought a gun into the dance studio. Like, I was literally. Literally, like, what could have possibly happened?

[B]

And it's a fin still. Like, who cares? Like, we know it. Like, what are you talking. Whatever. I'm not gonna get mad at this, but we got two weeks off, so. Oh, and the girls. And the girls were so shook. They were like, oh, my God. Like. And I was like, girl, you think we just spent a year and a half training? Like, you think that they're gonna, what, fire all of us and rehire and train for two more years?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Spend all this budget. Not happening. I'm taking my two weeks off. Honey.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was tanning. I was like, yes.

[A]

Like, oh, you had a great time. Instigate was great for you.

[B]

Instigate was awesome. I broke up with my boyfriend during that time. At the time, like, it was like I had shit to handle.

[A]

Like, I was like, I have watching that. I. Because, like, for those that haven't seen, like, the way they set up that episode, they march into the studio and they go, it's giving. Like, I've never yelled at a girl like this in my life. Like, I was literally like, you would think somebody, like, died, died.

[B]

Somebody died.

[A]

You would think somebody died.

[B]

And they were like, it was us posting on Close friends and like, God forbid I have some trauma to share with my friends over here.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

Almost like they didn't. It was like they didn't want you, like, interacting or, like, finding. It was weird. The whole. It was weird.

[B]

They were just scared that, like, people were gonna somehow, like, hack us and, like, find out information about the project and whatever. Which. Like, yes. Like, did we break the NDA? Yes. Like. Like, yes. Like. Like we did.

[A]

The NDA's are so this and that these days.

[B]

They're. They're a suggestion.

[A]

They're a suggestion. Really, in the day of the Internet, NDAs feel like a suggestion just getting

[B]

to all the Brands that I've worked with and that I had to sign NDAs with. They're not a suggestion. I follow them wholeheartedly.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay, let's do this.

[A]

Do you know about these?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. My best friend met this man abroad, and after only a month of knowing him and being back in the States, he's moving here and they're getting married. Oh, come on. Like, girl is engaged currently, one month. I want to be a good friend and support her because I get it. The man is hot. But I also know from experience it's a bad idea no matter how you shake it. What do I do?

[B]

You shake it. You. You shake her?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You shake her and be like, wake up.

[A]

He's trying to get a green card.

[B]

Oh, my God. So true. Yeah, he's trying to get a green card. I can't believe that I didn't think of that. I'm trying to get a green card. Oh, my God. Yes. Girl, run.

[A]

He's trying to get a green card. It sounds like the beginning of, like, a investigation discovery doc.

[B]

You need to be a good friend, and you need to be like, absolutely not. You need to have, like, an intervention set with her family. Like, it needs to be, like, hella serious.

[A]

I think something like that is a situation that calls for intervention. Like, you're into psychosis.

[B]

Intervention.

[A]

You're in psychosis. Like, we. Like, I don't like you got it. Like, this has got to end now.

[B]

I've had friends that get matching tattoos with their boyfriends after two weeks, and already I'm like, it's almost intervention time.

[A]

Oh, that's me. That's me. I. I made Tick Tock edits to my situation last night. Tick Tock edits. It was about you.

[B]

You made them wait.

[A]

Yeah. Where's my phone? I'll show it to you. I'll show it to you. It is so bad.

[B]

You are an insane person. I really am. I'm enjoying it here. No, no, I'm enjoying my time. That's insane, though. But, like, yeah, I mean, it's intervention. Listen, does it harm anybody? No, but her situation is harmful. She needs to get out.

[A]

But now, right now, watch, like, an episode of Intervention. That's what I prescribe. And, like, sit her down or, like, show her, like, a scary Investigation Discovery show. There's, like, plenty of that.

[B]

I feel as though you're right. So you're right.

[A]

That's what I would do. And I would. And if she's like, I can't see it. I can't see it.

[B]

I'm press. I'm prescribing. I've never yelled at a girl like this.

[A]

Yeah, that. That episode of America's Next Top Model.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I've been dating a man who is. Who is an identical twin for about eight months, and now my sister has been getting really close with my boyfriend's brother. I was a little weirded out by this, but obviously it's fine. But now. But now she is also beginning to dress a little like me. Should I sound the alarms? Is she trying to copy my life? It's honestly a little creepy.

[B]

Sound the alarms. I'm always about sounding the alarms. You guys need to speak up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You guys need to sound the alarms every time. Please, please. That's scary.

[A]

It's giving a single white female.

[B]

Don't know what that is.

[A]

Okay. It's a movie like that.

[B]

Exactly that situation. So that's your prescription? Yeah, that's our prescription.

[A]

That's our prescription.

[B]

Well, I think. Also, I think it's fine. I've had to, like, talk to friends before where you're like, hey, like, love you, sis. Right. This is freaking me out a little.

[A]

Really? You've had people, like, copy your stuff?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

And how do they take it when you have those? I've never met someone that's been able to have a conversation like that. How do they take it?

[B]

Well, the thing is, is, like, here's the thing. It's a really hard conversation to have and to lead because, like, you don't invent things, but you do invent, like, the mixture of things. Right? So it's like, okay, like, I didn't invent dressing like this, and, like, I met this person, but, like, dressing like that and, like, dating this person, that's, like, my combo. And you're, like, drinking my smoothie a little bit too much. Like. Like, you're like. Like, is.

[A]

Are.

[B]

You know, do you. And I think a lot of the times you won't get what you want from that conversation because that person was. Is not gonna go, oh, yeah, I've been copying you.

[A]

But at least you got it out.

[B]

But you got it out, and they know that you see it, and so they're being clocked and that they know you need to just, like, kind of assert your. Your. Your dominance a little bit.

[A]

Oh, I love that.

[B]

To be a little bit like, I

[A]

needed to hear that.

[B]

Honestly, you need to go a little

[A]

bit like, huh, this is who I am.

[B]

A little like, yeah, this is it. Yeah, like, I'm. I see you these These. See you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're here.

[A]

Eyes.

[B]

Eyes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Another set. Another set. Spiritual.

[A]

Wow. Good for you.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

Good for you.

[B]

And good for you. Because I. You need to do that, sister.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You have to do that. They won't stop.

[A]

There's this random Twitter account that has been tormenting me and my friend group for the better half of a year. Like, just some random account commenting nasty on all of our posts. Block them. Fast forward to last week. I'm cleaning my apartment and wanted to help my roommate out, so I went into her room to take out her trash and saw that account logged in on her laptop.

[B]

Where do you find these people?

[A]

I just went through them last night.

[B]

Oh, my.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Sickening.

[A]

Yes. That's giving Catfish the documentary.

[B]

I'm playing Gossip Girl. Wow. Wow. Well, obviously.

[A]

Oh, you better come up with the nastiest confrontation of your life.

[B]

You need to, like, this is the time to be petty.

[A]

Yeah. Hold it to yourself. Come up with a very clever way.

[B]

Tell all your friends in secret.

[A]

But you need to, like, record proof.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I really hope you recorded proof.

[B]

Yes. Because this person is gonna lie.

[A]

Be like, what? That's not true. I was just on their account. So record everything you need.

[B]

Receipts.

[A]

What I would be doing is like, something real nasty. I'd be like, let's have a movie night and we all watch movie. And then like, airplay the movie. And then it's like that.

[B]

Oh, my God, you're so much better at this shit than I am. Like, I would just be like. I think immediately as I would see that, I'd be like, what the fuck? And I would just like, whatever.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

But that's so much better.

[A]

No, that. I mean, but that's some real nasty, petty. I think she deserves it, though. If she's been calm, if she's been tormenting you really for. That's like. That's psycho.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

That's psycho.

[B]

That's psycho.

[A]

That's like, no empathy.

[B]

She needs evaluation.

[A]

No.

[B]

You need to extract those people out of your life immediately.

[A]

But yeah. Is not great. That's crazy. That's what I would do. That's my prescription. Be nasty and petty.

[B]

Being like, really put your heads together and be like, how can we get this bitch? And you really need to, like, bulletproof receipts. And I don't think you should show them. Like, I think the accusation needs to come first. You need. You need to give her a chance

[A]

to, like, oh, I have so many prescriptions for this. I'm like, so ready to just go for it.

[B]

Do it.

[A]

Salt Lake City, Monica, Reality Von Teese season. You have to watch that episode. Have you ever seen Real houses Salt Lake City?

[B]

No.

[A]

So basically there is a character named. There was a character. Sometimes it's hard in reality television. It's very. Because people view you as a character and like it's seeing name. Yes, See? Yes, yes. But you're not. You're a person. There's a housewife named Monica and she ran a smear account called. Or she ran a gossip account called reality Von Tees that tormented the girls like in earlier seasons and in the I full body chills in the final episode of the season, they. Have you ever heard Receipts proof timeline? Yes, that's where that's from.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And they all sit her down at dinner and they're like, we have everything. We have your perfect formula. Receipts, proof, timeline, screenshots, everything to prove that you are a liar. And so I would prescribe that. Then I would also prescribe like that song. What's that Cardi B song? Pretty and I'm petty as.

[B]

Well. You would play it as they're like. As they're confronting her about it.

[A]

And then to make yourself.

[B]

You have a soundtrack for it.

[A]

And then to make yourself feel better at the end of the day, like, you know, like, listen to mean girls by cat's eye. Cause God bless them.

[B]

God bless them. Because God bless the mean girls. God bless the sweet, sweet girls.

[A]

And yes, God bless even the mean girls. Because at the end of the day, God bless us them. But before you bless them, you have to get a little nasty.

[B]

I prescribe. God, I don't have like a.

[A]

Those all just came to me in

[B]

like a real, like a real, like, rush. I think I prescribe the nastiest, filthiest reading. You also need to call out her fucking stupidity to be logged into the account.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Like, you are stupid. If you're gonna be mean, you can be stupid.

[A]

Huh? Huh?

[B]

That's like, what?

[A]

Like, right, right. So, like, the fact that you were both.

[B]

You are crazy.

[A]

Like, you should feel like a fool.

[B]

You're mean and stupid and an idiot.

[A]

Yeah, you're a fool.

[B]

You are. You're a fool.

[A]

Yeah, fool is such a nasty. Nasty. If someone sat there and said, you are.

[B]

You're. You're a damn fool like I am. I'm prescribing you damn fool.

[A]

But can I say please, like, follow up with code word Adela, what happened? Because I need to know. Just say, this is from the Adela episode. Like, please I need to know. And don't lie. Don't get up on the Internet and lie and say that this was you.

[B]

I would love to know.

[A]

I need to know what happened.

[B]

This is kind of upsetting because you get into these situations, you never get the result.

[A]

Sometimes. Sometimes I do, but in this case, I really. Sometimes they'll come back. Like, they'll, like, at a live show, they'll be like, that was me that submitted that. And this is. Yeah, it's really full circle. It's really awesome.

[B]

Wow. That's awesome. That's epic.

[A]

Like, when I was doing. I did a. Like a Broadway show for three weeks. And like, when I. I would sign playbills during Stage door and they would tell you. And this girl was like, you called me during the Glen Powell episode two years ago, and I was supposed to give you a birth chart reading. Here's your birth chart reading. And like, that's those moments that I'm like, life is really beautiful.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Impact.

[A]

Impact.

[B]

Your impact.

[A]

Our impact.

[B]

Our impact.

[A]

My psychotic ex broke no contact to tell me his dog died. I do not want to speak to this man again. But I also love that dog. I also love that dog as my own. They're doing a sort of ceremony for the dog on the weekend, and he invited me. He was genuinely the worst. And I'm worried if I go, it's a surrender to no contact, and I do not want to do that, but I feel heartless. Otherwise, what do I do? You honor that dog in your own way.

[B]

I say the dog.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No, no.

[A]

But that dog. But you can look at old photos. You can have your own ceremony. You don't need to have a ceremony with your ex.

[B]

Here's my thing. If you go to the ceremony and then you still keep ignoring him and, like, don't give a about him, I think that's worse. Somebody once told me one thing that's worse than hate is apathy. Not caring about him at all. Like, the fact that if you don't show up, you might seem a little bit bothered still.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

If you show up and you do not give a fuck and then you just leave and still don't talk to him ever again. Sis.

[A]

Show up in all black.

[B]

Show up in all black.

[A]

Dress down for the dog's funeral.

[B]

Have the, like, little net.

[A]

Shades.

[B]

Shades.

[A]

This dog meant so much to me.

[B]

Where. Where? The, like, Ariana Grande mini dress that she wore to Aretha Franklin's funeral. Yeah.

[A]

My girlfriend never wants to go out, like, ever. This was one of the things I liked about her when we started dating, but now, almost four years later, we're in New York starting a new chapter, and I'd really like to get out there and have new experiences. She genuinely won't budge and is super passive aggressive if I go out. Anyway. Anyways, that's. That's the issue. We just got an apartment together, so don't tell me to break up. Sorry.

[B]

Oh, she said, don't tell me. I mean, I gotta say, I don't like going out either, so I guess I would be the girlfriend in question. So I'm not.

[A]

I'm not in my going out era either.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[A]

Well.

[B]

Well, I think maybe just, like, find a way to make her enjoy it. For me, personally, I don't like going out when it's with people that I don't enjoy. So you need to maybe, like, really, like, introduce her to some really nice people and, like, really, like, make sure that they're people that she would fuck with. And then you can be like, wait, like, they're going out to bar? Like, you know, the people that you like.

[A]

Right. Maybe, like, maybe this isn't black and white. And it's not like she doesn't like going out. I like going out. Maybe it's. I like going out. I'm with people that she doesn't fuck with.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do I fuck with these people?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Do we have the same values?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

What's going on here, really?

[B]

If you value your girlfriend, you're gonna. You're gonna listen to. But also, like, we don't know her, so she might just really not like leaving her house for some reason.

[A]

This person said that that's what they liked about their girlfriend at first. So something obviously shifted, and it's strange that it shifted when they moved to New York, the city of going out. When I go out, I'm one. I go to New York, work.

[B]

But you like this about her in the first place. I mean, girl, these are the cars that you've been dealt with from the start. She was real with you from the start, I gotta say. Maybe that she was you.

[A]

Oh, they like that she wouldn't go out.

[B]

She doesn't like going out.

[A]

Oh, I read it wrong.

[B]

Yeah, maybe you're the issue.

[A]

Maybe you've changed.

[B]

Maybe you've changed. And then it's like, okay, well, does she have to change with you? Or, sorry, to your new apartment. Do you guys have to break up?

[A]

I know, and that's what they said for us not to say. But if there are. If they're if you're telling me don't say break up, that means people in their life are saying break up.

[B]

And the people in your life know you better than me and Jake. Exactly. At the end of the day, we're telling you to break up the people in your. Sorry, sis. You shouldn't have gotten that apartment.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

How long has it been?

[A]

He said four years.

[B]

Long.

[A]

Long. I need some advice on how to be more punctual. Oh, I feel like you will be. I feel like you are very punctual.

[B]

No.

[A]

What? Oh, wrong. Wow, you're giving punctual.

[B]

I. I am giving that. But to some things I am punctual. Like if there's a meeting, I'm punctual. But if I know that I have a session and we have like a full day, I will be possibly 15 to 30 minutes late.

[A]

Oh, that is punctual.

[B]

Still in LA?

[A]

Yes, 15 minutes late. Traffic, things are weird. There's a restaurants give you a 15 minute grace period for a reason.

[B]

Okay, thanks. So maybe I am punctual.

[A]

You are punctual.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I need some advice on how to be more punctual. I love my job, but I can't seem to ever be on time. I just can't seem to wake up earlier than I already do. And even when I do get up earlier, I somehow still manage to run late because I'm so scatterbrained. I would love any advice on how to fix this because I really don't want to ruin my relationships or job over it.

[B]

See, this is the thing that I wouldn't be late for like rehearsal when it's like timed like, or like a performance, like you need to be on time.

[A]

I need consequences.

[B]

There's. Yes, there needs to be consequences for you, I fear.

[A]

Yeah, maybe.

[B]

Maybe like sis, like I don't know, like what are you scatterbrained about? Like what is.

[A]

What is avoiding something?

[B]

Like maybe, I don't know, lay out your outfit the night before.

[A]

I don't like for me, it's like the one thing I'm always on time to is like. Like I have like a workout every morning, right? That I'm like, I know I'll get yelled at if I'm late because other people are ahead of me.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I started to think like. Like these people would like to like if I was 10 minutes late. Like I'm like, oh wait, like this person, like if I'm doing an 8am workout, this person got up early and they made it there, so why shouldn't I be Able to make it there.

[B]

And the thing is, like, if it's your job, too, it's like all of your colleagues are doing that.

[A]

You can't be the only one. You kind of just have to do it.

[B]

You kind of just ripping a band aid off. It's your only job. It's like, you need to just go, honey, like, figure it out. I say find it.

[A]

It.

[B]

I would say find it.

[A]

Last some music in the morning. Put on. Just put on your clothes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, put on your clothes and leave.

[B]

You cannot. Well, honestly, sometimes music makes me.

[A]

Oh, really? Distracted.

[B]

Distracted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, everything takes a little bit longer. So honestly, remove everything that you're distracted by. Lay out your. Like, literally pick an outfit the night before. Get your bag set up. You wake up, you brush your teeth. You put the outfit that you picked out. You take. Take. Take your bag, and you just go, honey.

[A]

But also maybe. Maybe just try to wake up a little earlier. Just open your eyes and get up. Get out of bed.

[B]

Just go.

[A]

Just go.

[B]

Just go.

[A]

Just go set.

[B]

Like, do you have an iPad? Like, maybe one alarm on your phone? One alarm on your iPad? Like, you have to get up. You have to get out of bed to get your alarm.

[A]

Have you ever heard the song Jump by Blackpink?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Wake up to jump Wake up to jump. Yeah, I think that would get me out of bed.

[B]

I used to wake up to be All Right by Ariana Grande for, like, the best three years straight.

[A]

At the end of the day, it's Ari forever. Are you excited for the Eternal Sunshine tour?

[B]

Am I excited? Oh, my God.

[A]

I said clear the space.

[B]

I said, you don't understand. I mean, I don't have my tickets

[A]

yet, but neither do I. But I'll figure it out.

[B]

But I'll figure it out because I was like, I'm not gonna win that Ticketmaster war. Like, it's not happening. I really am. Like, I've been to every single one of her tours that she's ever done. Like, I'm like, this is it for me. I am gonna cry. Although I am interested in seeing what it's gonna be like. Like, seeing Seven Ranks performed.

[A]

I think it's gonna open with intro, end of the world, extended.

[B]

Okay, and then what?

[A]

And then that's. And then, like, that sets us up for, like. Yeah. Like, I. And then I said, for me, When We Can't Be Friends comes on, and I don't even care if that's basic, if that. If that's the choice. Like, like, clear the space, Clear the area. Clear the area. Like, I need my moment. That was, like, me and Louise's album Eternal Sunshine. Like, front to back.

[B]

Like, it's gonna be monumental. I also am, like, I really am interested because Eternal Sunshine, she's in her era.

[A]

Okay, well, those were it for the. Tell me what's wrong.

[B]

Okay. Yay.

[A]

Well, there's.

[B]

There's a lot of wrong with these people.

[A]

Yeah, somewhat. What did we learn today?

[B]

We learned that Hoppers is a great movie.

[A]

Louboutin should be dusted up.

[B]

Louboutin should be red. Bottom should be dusted up. What else?

[A]

Don't be ashamed of your dreams.

[B]

Do not be ashamed of your dreams. And, yeah, just follow your dreams. Follow your dreams. Guys. Therapists.

[A]

Adele, I love you so much. Thank you.

[B]

Thank you for having me.

[A]

I love you. Stream KGB out Friday.

[B]

Out Friday what? April 17th.

[A]

April 17th.

[B]

That's it. Spring just slid into your DMs. Grab that boho. Look for that rooftop dinner. Those sandals that can keep up with you. And hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling, Ross. Work your magic.