Session 121: Myha'la

Summary

Therapuss with Jake Shane — Session 121: Myha’la
Original Air Date: May 21, 2026

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Episode Overview

Jake Shane welcomes actress Myha’la (star of HBO’s “Industry”) for “Industry Week.” The episode is a celebratory deep-dive into the making of “Industry,” the intricate arcs of its characters, and themes of personal evolution, friendship, and self-acceptance. Myha’la offers behind-the-scenes insights, discusses her approach to complex roles, and explores the intersection between her real life and her characters. The latter half of the episode features the signature “Tell Me What’s Wrong” segment, where Jake and Myha’la give frank, empathetic advice to listeners’ life dilemmas—with plenty of laughs and heartfelt moments.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Celebrating “Industry” (00:39–03:31)

• Both Jake and co-host Louise are self-proclaimed superfans of “Industry,” praising its compelling mix of romance, sex, drugs, and high-anxiety drama.
• Discussion on character arcs—especially Yaz and Harper—emphasizing how unexpected yet logical their trajectories feel.
• Insight on how the show handles finance jargon: “I have no idea what is going on in finance terms, but Myha’la says she doesn’t either and it doesn’t matter. The acting tells you everything.” (02:53–02:58)

Myha’la’s Journey with “Industry” (04:06–08:45)

• Myha’la describes being on the series as “the greatest gift,” appreciating the rarity of deep, long-form character work (“Eight years in and I’m still passionate.” 04:28).
• Reveals how the show’s writers, Mickey and Conrad, craft each season as if it could be the last, to keep stakes high and endings earned.
• The real-life background: Mickey and Conrad drew on their banking experiences and creative partnership from university days.

Embodying Harper: Character and Catharsis (06:11–08:45)

• Myha’la describes loving the messiness and depth of Harper: “There’s nothing more interesting to me than a messed up person… it’s as much about figuring out why I’m messed up, too.” (06:19–06:37)
• The challenges and surprises of embodying Harper’s arc, especially showing her morality and loneliness in season four.
• The emotional toll of playing Harper, feeling both catharsis and personal growth.

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Favorite Episodes, Character Relationships & Behind-the-Scenes (08:45–16:46)

• Jake and Myha’la bond over favorite episodes, especially major season finales and pivotal scenes (notably, season 3 finale and season 1, episode 4).
• Discuss the nuanced, sister-like bond between Harper and Yasmin: “I don’t know any relationship besides a sibling one where you can say the meanest thing one week and be like, hey, next week.” (10:23–10:34)

Notable Moment — Harper’s Moral Turning Point

“This was the first season where I thought, well, we could do the same thing, but that’s not true to being human. We all evolve, we all grow.” — Myha’la (12:23)

• Myha’la reflects on Harper’s loneliness despite professional achievement, and the cost of ambition: “She has all this money, but who cares, you know?” (12:47–13:35)

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The Emotional Work of Acting (16:46–24:03)

• Myha’la shares how her personal growth parallels Harper’s evolution: “Who do I want to be today and beyond? That’s really cool.” (16:46–16:58)
• Guest highlights the long, taxing hours and emotional processing after shooting: a wrap party ends in tears and a genuine support moment from co-star Marisa (Harper & Yaz’s off-screen friendship mirrors on-screen dynamics, 35:43–36:54).
• On improvisation and script collaboration: Myha’la recounts personally expanding a major emotional scene about Harper’s mother’s death, influencing the final script (24:03–25:02).

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Growing Up, Self-Compassion, and Saturn Return (26:48–30:39)

• Myha’la talks openly about her Saturn return (late twenties), how physical and emotional challenges forced her to set boundaries and choose self-love.
• Quote: “The body needs stress to grow. That’s why we work out… I had to learn to really love myself so I could take care of my body better.” (28:52–29:41)
• The two compare experiences with negative self-talk and embracing vulnerability.

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The Audition Process & Staying Authentic (30:39–35:34)

• Myha’la describes landing "Industry" after a career low, doing her audition tape while tipsy with friends at home (32:35–32:38).
• Morale lesson: “This is why you hold steadfast… The right project will find you if you show up as yourself.” (34:07–34:11)
• Casting teams may not know exactly what they want—they respond to authenticity.

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On-Set Anecdotes & Cast Camaraderie (35:34–43:15)

• Myha’la shares post-season wrap emotions: “I turned around and sunk to my knees and wept… Marisa found me in the rain, put me to bed, and stayed with me till I cried myself to sleep.” (35:49–36:54)
• Cast is a real family; friendships inform the authenticity of their on-screen chemistry.

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Show Themes: Sexuality, Identity & Writing (44:38–47:14)

• Praise for how “Industry” treats sexuality and race with casual realism: “We’re not trying to tell the audience how they should feel… We just lay it out and say, here you go.” — Myha’la (45:04–45:53)
• Memorable filming moments: Improv, wild drug scenes, “quintessential industry sequences” (46:00–46:51).

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Personal Life: Love, Marriage, and Origin Story (48:01–53:02)

• Myha’la shares how a fan DM (from her now-husband, Armando) during COVID turned into an IRL romance and marriage.
• Notable quote:

  “I hung up the thing and I was like, ‘I’m in love with a stranger…’” (50:01)

• Wedding was small but meaningful; plans for bigger celebration with family/friends.

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“Tell Me What’s Wrong” Segment (57:01–71:24)

Jake and Myha’la respond to listener dilemmas with humor and sincere advice.

1. Trauma-Dumping While Drunk (57:01–58:53)

• Both agree: Vulnerability is a superpower. If someone reacts negatively, they’re probably not your people.

  “If somebody thinks you oversharing is weird, I think they’re weird and they’re not your person.” – Myha’la (57:36)

2. Partner’s Mom Befriending His Ex (58:54–60:37)

• Both call out partner’s mom’s behavior as “psychotic.” Boundaries need to be set by the partner, not the listener.

3. SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and Moving for Sunlight (60:37–64:59)

• They discuss how lack of vitamin D and seasonal shifts can drastically affect mental health.

  “The sun is a really big deal… You need to move your body. …Don’t be afraid to move and move your body. Move in all aspects.” – Jake (64:42–64:59)

4. Partner Becoming a Conspiracy Theorist (65:16–66:47)

• Approach conversations with “I feel” statements, avoid judgment, and suggest shared activities to reconnect.

5. Boyfriend Spending More on Betting Than on Relationship (67:25–69:23)

• Once clarified it’s gambling, advice is firm: “No, no, no, no. Gambling? No.” (69:15)
• Compassion for financial struggles, but gambling is a red flag.

6. Discovering Dad’s Infidelity (69:56–71:23)

• Consensus: It depends on family dynamics; consider confronting the parent directly or telling the other parent.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “There’s nothing more interesting to me than a messed up person. …It’s really, really cathartic.” – Myha’la (06:19)
• “Who do I want to be today and beyond? …That’s really cool.” – Myha’la (16:46)
• “I was watching it and feeling like I was part of this family.” – Jake (20:34)
• “This is why you hold steadfast…The right project will find you if you show up as yourself.” – Myha’la (34:07)
• “If somebody thinks you oversharing is weird, I think they’re weird and they’re not your person.” – Myha’la (57:36)
• “You really only live once.” – Jake (65:10)

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Section Timestamps

• Intro / Industry Superfan Talk: 00:39–03:31
• Myha’la’s Industry Journey: 04:06–08:45
• Character Deep Dives: 09:19–14:05
• On Acting & Processing Emotions: 16:46–24:03
• Self-Development / Saturn Return: 26:48–30:39
• Casting & Authenticity: 30:39–35:34
• Behind-the-Scenes Bonds: 35:34–43:15
• Sexuality, Identity, Story Craft: 44:38–47:14
• Personal Life & Love Story: 48:01–53:02
• “Tell Me What’s Wrong” Audience Advice: 57:01–71:24
• Closing / Lessons Learned: 71:27–72:21

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Tone & Style

This episode mirrors the vibe of a late-night therapy session—irreverent and intimate, with warmth, humor, and unfiltered honesty. Myha’la is candid, funny, and insightful; Jake is exuberant yet grounded. The rapport is familial and real, peppered with mutual admiration and respect.

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Summary Takeaways

• “Industry” is lauded for its complexity, authenticity, and unique handling of finance, sexuality, and human flaws.
• Myha’la’s acting philosophy centers on embracing imperfection and emotional depth, both on-screen and off.
• Audience questions spark supportive, practical advice that blends real empathy with wit.
• Central theme: Growth—personal, professional, and relational—requires honesty, boundaries, support, and self-love.

Transcript

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[Host]

It's industry week, you guys. Okay. I've been industry hive since 2020. When the show first came out, it is like my. And I will never let anyone forget it. But Louise, who refuses to be on camera. Right. Hi. I'm not keeping her. She just said she would do it only if she's not on camera. But she is, like, the only other person besides our friend Rebecca that watches industry the way we do.

[Co-host]

And it is the best show of all time.

[Host]

You think of all time. I think of all time.

[Co-host]

Of all time.

[Host]

What do you love about it?

[Co-host]

It just has everything that you could ever want in a show. It has romance, it has. It has sex, it has drugs, it has high anxiety, high pressure.

[Host]

Like, I think what we love about it so much is that the character arcs are so well thought out. It reminds me of dark on Netflix in the sense that, like, I don't know how we got from point A to point B, but it was done correctly because you can look back at point A and understand how we got to point B.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Host]

Do you know what I mean? It's like, where Yaz is right now, you're like, if you saw. Yeah. Season one, you'd be. And you. And I said to you where she ends up in season four, you'd be like, in what world?

[Co-host]

But also, like, yeah, it makes sense.

[Host]

It makes sense because they do it so well.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Host]

Favorite episode.

[Co-host]

You know mine, my favorite episode is the finale of season three.

[Host]

Yep. I was about to say. Okay. I was gonna say a different one. That is my favorite. Oh.

[Co-host]

When her and Yaz and Rob. No spoilers, but.

[Host]

Oh. If you're gonna watch these two episodes, just prepare for spoilers. It's industry week. Be talking everything.

[Co-host]

And also, why would you not watch the show? Like. But the end of that episode, I cry. I'm so overwhelmed with emotion.

[Host]

Because you understand why Yaz chose Kit Harrington.

[Co-host]

Yes.

[Host]

I really hope Rob comes back for season five.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I do.

[Host]

I lowkey think he will.

[Co-host]

I do too.

[Host]

I, like, totally get the vibe that he has to.

[Co-host]

And also some.

[Host]

Oh, my God. When he enters. Okay, go, go.

[Co-host]

One other thing. About Industry is obviously, I have no idea what's actually going on in finance terms. Yes.

[Host]

Yeah, obviously. But my Holla says she's like, I

[Co-host]

also have no idea and it doesn't matter. Yeah, that's why, you know it's so good.

[Host]

Yeah, I have no idea. But I just know based on her delivery whether it's a good or a bad thing.

[Co-host]

Can we also talk about them as actresses? Like, seeing them in these episodes was so amazing. They're the coolest people in the world.

[Host]

You're the coolest people in the world. And then you meet them in person. You're like, wait, you're even cooler. This was a. It was a good week. Industry week. Yeah. Industry is the best show on television, period. And I'm so jealous of those that get to binge it. Louise has seen it twice. The whole thing.

[Co-host]

I have seen the first three seasons three times.

[Host]

How? What a third. My holla is a gift. Marisa is a gift. The show is a gift. If you have not watched industry, please watch it and enjoy tonight's episode. As always. To leave it. Tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpush.com click tell me what's wrong and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Love you realizing I haven't done that all season. All right, well, love you. Enjoy the episode. Welcome. Thank you. I'm so, I'm so happy you're here.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you so much for having me. This feels like a long time coming.

[Host]

It does. I mean, I remember running up to you at an event three years years ago saying that industry was my favorite show.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes, I remember. That was so sweet.

[Host]

It is my favorite show on television because it's objectively the best.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you.

[Host]

It really is.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I agree.

[Host]

Like, it really is. Like, where else are you going to get characters like that?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

They're hard to come by. I will say, which has been like the greatest gift to be on a long running show and to still say eight years in, like, I'm so passionate. Yeah. We started shooting in 2019.

[Host]

Holy.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And when it's all said and done, it will be a decade.

[Host]

Wow. And it's so funny. I was watching, I was finishing season four the other day. It's, it's, it's one of those where I do have to binge it because I can't wait week by week. I. I can't do it. It is too fucking stressful.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I don't blame you. I think a lot of people feel that way. If I was just watching the show I would feel the same way.

[Host]

Like there is something ingrained in my memory. Is Harper chewing her gum? Oh, yeah, Season one and it just bleeding. I will never forget. I don't even mind you. I don't even know what the fuck is going on.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, neither do I. What do you mean? I don't even know either.

[Host]

Yeah, I read that you were like, I ask if it's a good financial thing or a bad thing and I run away 100%. I'm like, I have no idea what is going on financially, but I just know by the way you're playing it if this is a risky situation or not.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

100. I think that's my job. As long as people think that I know what I'm doing, I do. Okay, great.

[Host]

I do. I was like, oh, she doesn't know. Great. I don't know either.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm giving everyone permission to be like the finance. Whatever. As long as you're sweating and crying and yearning and lusting, then we've done our job.

[Host]

You. It is really. You have done so, such an incredible job. I am low key. Like, I feel like a groupie of yours. I watch everything you're in Bodies, Bodies, Bodies. Leave the world behind.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Like, thank you so much.

[Host]

You're incredible. And I'm just like, so happy that you get to play these like, incredibly complex characters.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you so much. I mean, that's like, that's my thing. I don't want to do anything idealistic or simple or whatever. Like, I am deeply, deeply invested in humanity. I think people are so interested. There's nothing more interesting to me than like a messed up person.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I want to know. I want to know what makes them tick. I want to know why they got messed up. I think probably on a level, because I want to know why I'm messed up. You know what I mean? It's as much about. It's really, really cathartic. There's also some stuff that, like, I get to do that I would never do in my real life. You know what I mean?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I would never move the way Harper moves. She is cuckoo.

[Host]

She's cuckoo. But, like, she's cuckoo. But you kind of see at the end of season four, I've for the first time in the entire show, her morality, like, coming out.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, totally.

[Host]

And being like. I mean, that final shot of them being like, do you want one more? Is so sickening. Like, because you're just like, you know, you. Because you knew, like, watching it, you're like, one more season, like, one more round For Harper, like, let's fudgeing. Go.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm so glad you're excited when we're shooting that. Actually, it was so funny because the first couple of takes they were like, okay, my holla. We're just on your face, so you're going to like, give her a look. And the first time I was like this. Yeah, like, you know, I want more. They were like, okay, maybe a little more subtle, like, calm down a little bit. But I was like, I want more every season.

[Host]

I was talking to Marisa about this yesterday. I was saying I feel like the official industry podcast at this point, like, but you, they, Mickey and Conrad, they planned it as if it's their last, right?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Always.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I mean, I think that's smart. Because the truth of this whole business is you really don't know if you're gonna go again.

[Host]

Right.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

They might put you in contract for 3, 5, 7. But I think how it's been, at least my experience has been there. It's never guaranteed until they see some more scripts and they feel excited about where they want to go next, that they get a green light and then we all are like, okay, we're going again. But it's really always a question mark. So I think writing as if it is the end is totally smart. And then it gives you a serious challenge to write yourself out of it. And I think Mickey and Connor do a really, really good job of that every. Every year.

[Host]

And they're ex bankers, right?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, yeah. I think Mickey did like five years and Conrad did three.

[Host]

And then did they meet like via banking and then just like come up with this idea?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

They met in school, they met in, in university and I, they. They were, they were like a sort of creative pair for a long time. I think they were making shorts and they were shooting their own stuff. I think maybe Mickey got involved first and then, and then they both came up with the idea that inspired industry. They did something quite similar and then they were like, oh, this is, this is story we want to explore.

[Host]

Yasmin and Harper's relationship at this point is like, you're. I don't even know what the. Is going on with them, but it's like it's the only love. Like they love each other down.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

But like, where in an ideal world for you, like, where do you want to see them end up?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I think, cuz sentimentally, obviously I would love if they were like, we are sisters and they got it together. Do you know what I mean? Like, they, they have had so many like, moments of vulnerability and connection. Especially in this, like that. That bar scene in episode seven before the club.

[Host]

That's gonna go down in history.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you. I mean, it's a. That was sort of like an accumulative final straw. We have nothing else to do but absolutely be totally honest. No ulterior motive, nothing. It was pure, pure love. And then it sort of all goes to. But I think about them as sisters.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I don't know any other relationship besides sibling one where you could really say, like, the meanest thing. I want to hurt you so badly. And the next week they're like, hey,

[Host]

they've hit each other before, right?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. Yeah. We slap the. Out of each other. Yeah, we did.

[Host]

You did. Like, and it. And it. It's gotten to the point where it's like, you're like. Nothing is surprising with the two of them. Like, true. You're like, like, like, I can't even. I'm like, trying to collect my thoughts, but there's like, so many. Like, you're basically like the entire season. For those that don't know, Harper was betting on the demise of Yasmin's husband's company. And when Yasmin finds out, like, you kind of do it and you kind of like. You kind of like, make eye contact. Like I told you, it's the name of the game.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. And even, I mean, I think another, like, signal that there is real love. There is. For the first time, Harper tries to warn her. Like, she really tries to warn her.

[Host]

Yes. I was shocked when she did that. I was shocked. Like, you brought her. You were like, look, I'm shorting the company. There's some shit going on. And I was like, oh. Because in my mind, I'm like that with Harper's game because she can go and fidget and figure things out.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

And up her short. Yeah, I sound like a finance guy. But, like, really that I. I was shocked when Harper did that.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. I think this whole season has been a big. Was a big challenge for Harper because where she's always been business minded, she truly does try to protect the people that she cares about. I mean, even. Even deciding to work with Eric, I mean, that is really risky. Like, that is also another really sorted, complicated relationship built on a lot of trauma. And she goes into it with a. With a more open heart than you might expect of her.

[Host]

I was shocked. Harper shocked me.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Harper. Harper shocked me too. I was. But this was like, sort of the only way we could go with her because we've seen her be a Shark Steely been conniving and completely self serving in terms of business. And this was the first season where I thought, well, I mean, we could, we could do the same thing. But that's not true to humid. Like, we all evolve, we all grow.

[Host]

Right?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I think the question is, once you have everything you've always dreamed of that you've worked so hard towards, which is what she's got, she's her own boss, she has employees, she's got agencies. Her reputation on the street as a market mover is solid. Now what? Like you can make money and make money and make money. Now what? And especially by the end of the season, she has all those things and she has. She has no one to share them with. She's lost her whole family. Her brother, her mother, her dad has never been in the picture. She loses Eric, she loses Kwabana, and sort of then, sweet pea, that relationship is tainted. And now she loses Yasmin, her last, last ship. That's it. She's totally alone in this world and she has all this money, but who cares, you know, Right?

[Host]

She's so lonely at the end of it.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. She's completely alone. And I love that you bring up that final image because I think that question, are you done? Have you had enough? She's really asking herself, have I? And she also happens to be on a pj, so, like, maybe she hasn't, honey.

[Host]

Maybe not.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Maybe not, not.

[Host]

But that final episode was just like, so gutting. What, what was your, like, reaction when you, like, got the script?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Well, look, I mean, it's. It's not that it's not totally depressing. It's horrendous.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's also like, you can see this. You can see the steps. You see exactly how we got here. Hurt people. Hurt people. You know, it's. It's heartbreaking. And I think as Harper, like, playing it, there was, because of all of this loss, there was just so much shock. I think, you know when you're like, running on E, you haven't slept, you haven't eaten, Something tragic has happened to you and you really feel like you're at the bottom of the barrel. And then one more thing happens.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And you just, you have not. You don't even have the energy to be devastated. You go into that sort of like comatose.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And you see, I mean, you see her right after that conversation. She's just in the bed. Like, if we had eight more episod, she'd be there in the bed.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Depressed.

[Host]

Just being like, what the fuck?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No shower, none of it. Yeah. So I was, I was really looking forward to exploring what that sort of void feels like and what does a person do to try to soothe themselves. And it was, I think one of the most challenging parts was justifying finding the love and in her still choosing quaba after all of that. Because she, she says in that scene after that, like they have a moment of connection despite him coming back and saying, I just cheated on you again. And I don't think you want this. It's like, girl, why would I want this? You keep with me.

[Host]

But it's like she's desperate. Is that relationship even like, he's like, he's almost like begging you to be like, don't do this and you won't.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You're like, okay, well there's so much, so much humiliation.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Like the amount of energy that it takes her in that moment to be like, to be honest at all, to be like, how do you expect me to function with you?

[Host]

Right.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You know, takes so much guts. It's also totally not the Harper we know. The Harper we know would be like, fuck you.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I mean, she would start another fight, she would get mad, she would probably do something to him, fire him, I don't know.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

But she doesn't. And that's like one of the beauties of being on like a long running thing doing TV in general is you really get to evolve a person. You get to explore how time, space, relationships, the world affects them and you get to explore who, who they want to be. Who they want to be.

[Host]

Right.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Because I think, I mean like I'm, I'm, I'm asking myself this question every day and I'm making new decisions towards like, who do I want to be today and beyond? And I think that's really cool.

[Host]

It is really cool. And you've like, the whole, you and the whole cast have done such an excellent job within industry. Where do you see like the turning point for like, where was Harper's turning point this season? Do you think it was when Eric left?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh boy. Ken is one of the greatest actors of all time in my personal opinion. He is. He's just really amazing. It's very easy to love him. He really does wear his heart on his sleeve. And that's another great thing about this show is that we are following a bunch of people who make decisions that would make them seem irredeemable, but they're so infused with humanness that it becomes relatable. And you want them to succeed. You want them all to go to therapy and, like, get fixed and, like,

[Host]

have the gang back together.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. Like, be, like, right into the sunset.

[Host]

Gotta have a beer at the pub and hang out.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

But I think, yeah, that was a huge one for her. I think. I think another really hardcore turning point that I think she was sort of forced into was finding out her mom died.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Because the entire first four episodes is Eric trying to convince Harper to work with him and to create a more intimate relation, like a sort of friendship.

[Host]

Right. Yeah. There was, like, eternal. You know what this is? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Please, like, share your life. Like, if we're gonna work together, like, we should, really. And she's like, you know. You know, nothing good comes of that, considering their history and the. The job's going well. But she is in so much turmoil finding out that her mother has gone. She. She has no one to turn to, and she is desperate just to. Just to talk to someone. And he's there, and he makes himself available. And that aside from her, her loving relationship with Yasmin, I think that's the other sort of loving relationship in Harper's life, that it is a sort of pseudo, paternal. He's also been her mentor, and he really was the one who. Who took a chance on her. He picked her sort of out of obscurity, knowing that she didn't really have the qualifications, believed in.

[Host]

People forget that Harper came to purepoint lying about her resume. I mean, that was. The whole thing about season one was that you didn't have the qualifications.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Right, Right.

[Host]

You were better than everyone on the floor per period.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

But the reason she doesn't want to get into this personal relationship with him, like, let's just make it business, because despite him being the one who allowed her to be in that space, he's also the one who outs that. He's also the one who gets her fired.

[Host]

That was crazy. The shit that's happened in this show. Like, you. I mean, I never thought start. I remember starting sitting there, starting season one being like, what am I about to get into?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You had no idea.

[Host]

I had no idea. Louise has seen the show through twice.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, great.

[Host]

I'm like, how do you sit and watch this twice? Like, it's the most stressful, but it makes, like, talking to you. Marisa has, like, made me be like, I think I want to restart it.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Go for it. I feel like, honestly, especially having been a part of our family from day one, I was.

[Host]

I was industry high from day one.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Day one, gang, I love. Thank you. Thank you. Because I wouldn't be sat here today if it weren't for you and the rest of the people who were like, die hard from day one. I'm so serious.

[Host]

It is. It was. It picked me up during such a dark time in my life in Covid. Like, I just remember being at my parents house, sitting there, watching it and feeling like I was part of this family. Yeah, that's what like, you guys are so good at doing. Like, I felt like I was part of this family.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, that's amazing. I mean, we really kind of from day one, but have become a really strong family. It feels like family. And I think that chemistry, that bond, that trust that we created fills the show. Like, it's that sort of unnamable chemistry, like, thing. Which I also think is why, like, people want Yaz and Harper together. Because Maurice and I are actually friends.

[Host]

Right. We actually. You're her bridesmaid.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We actually love each other. So even when we're fighting, it's. It's coming despite itself. It's coming from a place of very deep love and appreciation and respect. And those colors, the nuance. I mean, the same with me and Ken. Like, I just have had. We have had a deep love for one another, which is why people are like, why do we want them together? Because, you know, it comes from love.

[Host]

Real love.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. And on the page, it. It wasn't always that. It wasn't like, oh, these people actually love each other. It's like, no, these people are stabbing each other in the back.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And that's. That's sort of the magic of like, great teamwork and real chemistry, which does sort of feel like lightning in a bottle.

[Host]

It. It is. Was there like a moment this season or honestly, any season where, like, something wasn't scripted?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

There definitely is some. Not when we're doing any sort of businessy deal.

[Host]

Well, of course.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Because we would all be like, yeah,

[Red Bull Announcer]

the.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

The sort of nature of this entire show is Mickey and Conrad learning their actors and writing for us. I mean, there have been whole story lines that were inspired by real life stories that actors connect to. They're really good at that. I think that's what makes them special writers because they write. They really write for us. But the. The. There was like a couple. But specifically. And it wasn't exactly improv. But specifically the scene where Harper speaks to Eric about her mom passing on the page, I mean, it was. I think the scene ended up being like five or six pages long, but when I got it first, it was maybe Four, Three or four. And the direction was more like, Harper is numb. She doesn't cry. She doesn't know how to feel. It feels quite disconnected. And I thought, like, if I. If I was in her shoes and this monumental thing happened to me and I. I felt numb or I didn't know how to feel about it, that would confuse me so much. I would feel so lost and so alone. And the emotion would come from that. It would come from being so deeply confused and frustrated at the fact that I don't know how to feel about my own mother dying. Yeah, it's so confusing and so isolating and then also being so frustrating far away from home. You know, I think also the fact that she feels sort of pinned, forced into this now very intimate relationship with Eric that she was trying so hard not to do, it feels like a sort of betrayal of self. So all of that is where the emotion comes from. I often cry when I'm confused and frustrated.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

So I just. I said to the boys, I was like, hey, I understand this version. Is there a world in which maybe we can let her be a little more childlike, a little more insecure and, like, really reveal something to him? And then it creates. And that, like, affected what Eric said. So then the scene became longer. I just. I ended up writing them, like, this stream of consciousness thing, and I just, like, whatsapped it to our group chat and was like, here's my thoughts. When I, like, put myself in her shoes while I'm working on the scene. Here are my thoughts. Just here they are. And then when we went to shoot, like, 95 of the stuff that I wrote ended up in the news on the day, which was amazing. I was really, really, really grateful that they wanted to include those things because I feel like there's so much about Harper that we don't know.

[Host]

We get plopped into Harper's world after. Yeah, after she grew up, essentially.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

And I feel like. I don't know why. As a viewer, I wasn't expecting her to care, but, like, I wasn't expecting her to care that her mom died.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Right.

[Host]

Like, the Harper that I knew hates her mom.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Right.

[Host]

And was like, it would have just been like, no. So when it went the other way and, like, the short was going well, everything was going well, and that happened. You would think she'd be like, I can't. I can't.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

And she, like, does and basks in that, like, emotion. It was very shocking as a viewer to see. Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. I always talk about concerts, but tonight I wanted to highlight a specific comedian that is going on tour that you can go get tickets on SeatGeek for now. Chelsea Handler just announced her new tour and you can use code therapists for 10% off tickets. All live shows are just the best. The World cup is coming to the US this summer. Casey Musgraves is going on tour. Like, there are just so many people to see, and seatgeek allows you to see all of them because they make the process of getting the ticket so much easier. When you go get a ticket, they rate it on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not the best, 10 being the best. So you can see if you're getting the most bang for your buck. And if you click the link in the description and download the app, it automatically applies the code therapist for 10 off your order. It's summer. It's time to go outside. It's time to leave the house. See your favorite comedian, see your favorite artist, see the world cup and use code therapist for 10% off. That's promo code therapist for 10% off your order on SeatGeek. Thank you again, SeatGeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm always interested in the sort of unexpected turn of something. I often feel surprised by the way I respond to things, especially as I grow. I'm 30 now.

[Host]

You're 30?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes, girl. Get into it.

[Host]

Oh, do you like it? Do you like being 30? Okay.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Is amazing. And everyone says that it's amazing. How old are you?

[Host]

26. Work.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You're in the midst of your Saturn return. I know, I know.

[Host]

I'm scared.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Okay. I'm praying for you and it's going to be.

[Host]

How was yours?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

She ate me up. Low key. She ate me up.

[Host]

What was it? When did it start for you and what was it like? I'm sorry, industry hive. I need five seconds to, like, go down this roll.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

We're about to get into my medical history. It probably started around 25, and it did indeed sort of start with a tummy issue. I am now.

[Host]

My back hurts.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yep.

[Host]

My back hurts.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Listen. Spirit moves through you in mysterious ways. Yeah. It started with tummy issues, which sent me on this journey of, like, physical. Physical health and wellness.

[Host]

And.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I, at one point, I'm not kidding, was so frustrated that I was like, I need God. Yeah. Nothing is working. None of these pills, none of these yogas. I need God.

[Host]

Like, I need literal religion right now.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Whatever. Like, I'll do anything to fix this. And I think I Just discovered that so much of the physic, it felt very much like emotionally and energetically. I had to deal with some things to just make room in my spirit for like the drugs to work.

[Host]

Right.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's been my experience that like, the, the mind, the spirit or the mind and the body are like, intrinsically linked and I needed to, like, get right with myself. I had to learn how to really love myself and like love on myself so that I could take care of my body better. It's like such a crazy process. It feels like I really felt like I was being ripped to shreds.

[Host]

Oh my God.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I really am. But honestly, it's worth it. And I think anything, anything worth doing is gonna be hard. Yeah, the body needs stress to grow. That's why we work out. We break our muscles apart so they can grow bigger, stronger, shapely, whatever. So, yeah, a lot of that was about, like, learning how to set my boundaries, like, understand what my boundaries are, what do I need, put myself first, set my boundaries, maintain them in a respectful way, speak my truth, and also only speak abundance into my own life. Like, deciding what it is I think I deserve and like saying it with my chest until I believe it a lot. It was like five years of like, I don't actually believe it, but I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say. I'm just gonna say it until it becomes true. And I turned 30 and now it's true.

[Host]

And what, like, did you used to have like, negative self talk?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Absolutely. I mean, and I still do. Don't get me wrong. Like, it's a practice. Yeah, honey. Every single day I'm saying, like, I deserve this. I deserve, I deserve to love myself. I still have negative thoughts, I still have anxiety, and I still have. Occasionally I have imposter syndrome. And occasionally I feel like I'm not prepared for something. But I also know that, like, the universe loves me and I wouldn't be put in the positions that I'm in if I couldn't handle it. And I have big goals and big dreams and I have to be able to advocate myself or else I'm not going to get them right. So, yeah, my. That was. That was what that was. And my tummy is healed. Thank God.

[Host]

Thank God.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

But really, honestly, in like a less woo woo way, it was like learning about nutrition, learning about my circadian rhythms and making sure that I don't overextend myself so that I can show up to work. And my life every, every day is like the best version of myself was

[Host]

There ever like a part of shooting industry that you felt overextended?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, the, the, the first season we shot, I had only done. I'd done like one episode of television and I did an indie feature in New York that I did like five Days on and then I landed in the UK and they were like, lead this HBO series for six months, work every day, do it well, and then like be chill about it.

[Host]

Like, what was the audition process like for you for that? Like, did you walk in being like, this is just another audition or did you walk in being like, this role is mine?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

So the tea about this is that when I got this audition I was like in the midst of a crisis. I had just lost a job that they said was mine, that I was like counting the dollars and deciding the ways in which this was going to change my life. And, and literally the director in the room was like, it's yours. And the next day they were like, they went another direction. Broke my heart into like a million tiny pieces. Oh my God, it was horrible. At the time I was bald, very androgynous. Didn't. Yeah. And I was comparing myself a lot to the people who were getting the jobs. I was like, they're more feminine than me. They wear makeup, they are taller, they're shorter, they're darker skin, they're lighter skin. And I was, was really like, do I need to change the way I look or present myself to be palatable to people just so I get a chance? And I'm really like, I really wear my heart and myself on my sleeve. And the idea of changing my outside felt like a betrayal of myself. And it was just like I was crashing out. And then I got the audition for industry like a week later and I was supposed to go out with my friends. So we were like pre gaming in the apartment and I was like, oh, I have this audition. Will you guys tape it with me? So I'm like a little tipsy in the tape.

[Host]

Shut up. I have to see this tape now.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, girl, that is buried. It's not that good. But they saw something in it and they asked me to do another round of tapes with two additional scenes. And in between I read two more episodes and I met with Mickey and Conrad and they gave me some thoughts and ideas. So I re taped, thank God. And a week later they were like, they want you to meet Lena Dunham who's going to direct the pilot. So I met her in person and she was so quirky. We sat on the floor while we did the read, and she was like, you'll be hearing from us very soon.

[Host]

Oh, that's so her. I feel like so her.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I walked out. I mean, I wasn't in there but, like, 30 minutes. And I walked out and called my team, and they were like, what happened? And I was like, well, we're done. He said, was it good? And I was like, I mean, I think so. We sat on the floor, so I think that's good. And then a week later, they were like, they want to travel you to Cardiff to test with the other actors. And when I showed up, it was just me there testing for Harper ever. I think almost all the other roles was one person. Except for maybe one role, there was two people. But that was when I was like, oh, per. Like, yeah, it's just me.

[Host]

Yeah, I got this shit.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

If I, like, royally screw this up, okay. But if it goes well, if I do what I've been doing, I think this is mine. And then maybe a week later, the day before my birthday, I found out I got the job.

[Host]

And was it, like, did what. What did you feel like knowing that you didn't have to change anything about yourself to get it?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

Were you like, I'm so grateful that I didn't fall into that crash out.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Well, I literally was like, this. This is why you hold steadfast. Like, this is. This is why you feel so strongly about showing up as yourself, because the right project, the right people will find you. You just have to have faith and be patient and, like, hold on. So that was real confirmation that I should never, like, never try to change myself to fit some version of what I think someone else wants. Also, the real gag is casting and creatives. Whatever. They don't want you to do a version of what they think, because oftentimes they don't even know.

[Host]

Yeah, they don't look.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

They do not know. They're looking for someone to tell them, oh, that's what I want. Or that challenged the thing that I thought I want, and it inspires me. So I think that's what happened. And they were like, I'm so down. So, yeah, I mean, they were like, do you want to stay bald? And I was like, no, no, no, no. Like, let. Let me. Let me do a little something. Let me change for the role. But, yeah, I mean, I went into that season totally unprepared for how much responsibility it was. I was so excited, but it was so, so much that I didn't even realize I hadn't given myself an opportunity Time or space to process until literally the day we wrapped, we did, like, the wrap party, and then everyone came over to mine, and we, like, had a sesh, and it was so fun.

[Host]

I would pay money you to sesh with every single person on that cast. I should have been there. Like, my pure point.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Like, it was so fun. We tried to. We tried to get them to let us have the. The party on the trading floor.

[Host]

And they were like, oh, come on. They said no.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Well, there was like, millions and trillions of dollars of, like, Bloomberg terminals everywhere. Like, I'm not letting you get fucked up on the trade floor. It's, like, such a risk. But everyone was at mine. They all left at, like, three in the morning. And I closed the door on the last person. I turned around and sunk to my knees and wept for I don't even know how long. I was, like, crawling around my apartment, crying so hard. And I finally found my phone, and I called Marisa, and I was hysterical. I don't remember what I said. I don't really remember exactly what happened, but I do know that I left my apartment. It was raining. I was crying in the rain. She found me because we lived all in the same complex. She found me in the rain. She. She brought me back into my apartment and she. She, like, brushed my teeth for me and put me to sleep and stayed in the bed with me until I, like, cried myself to sleep. She stayed with me the whole.

[Host]

You guys are really Yaz and Harper with less of the backstabbing.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, right. No, none of that.

[Host]

But that's why it reads so well, because it's so real. That love is so real.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's really real. She, like, literally held me while I cried, and, like, my body just experienced the whole six months because I didn't know what to do with it.

[Host]

You were on go mode.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I was. I was totally on go mode.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I finally. When my body was like, it's done. You can relax now.

[Host]

It was like, yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

All of it came over me, and I released it all, and I let it go.

[Host]

Wow.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It was crazy. And then I was awoken by the driver being like, come to the airport. Time to go to America. And I was like, I'm not packed. I have no. It was crazy. I left that apartment in shambles. Shambles. There were. I mean, it was disgraceful, the condition I left that apartment in.

[Host]

But it's okay. You made great television out of it. Thank you. How are you planning on saying goodbye to Harper?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, this is a great question that I really haven't put too much thought to. I don't think I'll ever truly say a real goodbye. She is a. She is a part of who I am and who I want to be. I think it's sort of twofold. It's, like, sad, because her. The. Our story, me and her story, is ending. I'm sort of leaving her behind. But when this is done, that chapter is closed. I have. I have a new. A new chapter to open. Now I am literally. I'm just literally available. There's so much more work I want to do. I'm. I'm writing, and I'm.

[Host]

Oh, wow.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Trying to develop a couple things for myself. So now I'll have the time, energy, the space, the experience, and the confidence to start working on those things, which I'm really excited about.

[Host]

Do you want. Are those things more television or movie or both?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I have both. I have both that I'm interested in. I'll never not do tv.

[Host]

Yeah. I'm a TV guy through and through.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Me too. I really am.

[Host]

I feel like with television, you can fall into these worlds so much more intensely and, like, really become part of a family.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Totally. The time, just the sheer amount of time, like, it's. It's like depending on how many episodes you have, it's like eight movies, right? We have so much time to explore and go deeper and. And you get to change and evolve. And, like, Harper season one is not Harper season four, and she won't be Harper season five. Do you know what I mean?

[Host]

I feel like. I mean, I feel like season five, Harper will have, like. I feel like she's gonna go on this, like, moral, like, trying to make up for, like. Like, looking at Yaz and being like, wait, like, how did we get here? Like, we are not doing this.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

She's gonna turn to Christ.

[Host]

Yeah. She is literally gonna turn to Christ.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. I'm. I'm really excited to see where we go with. With Harper, with everyone, with the show. I mean, knowing. Knowing that it's the last one. I'm pretty sure the boys are just gonna go rip it. Yeah, they are. They are. They're gonna write. I mean, I think yesterday on the. We. We did a panel yesterday. They were talking about, like, from day one, there was sort of a basket of things they were interested in doing, and now that they know the time is nearing an end, they're gonna try to get all that shit that's in the basket into season five. So are you excited?

[Host]

I'm, like, actually, like, I think I want to visit Set one day.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, my God.

[Host]

You should come at this rate. Like, I think I need to come visit set.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's totally calm.

[Host]

Mickey Conrad, please, please let me come visit set. Like, I would.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, you're going to come.

[Host]

Okay.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You should totally come. Come to Cardiff, please.

[Host]

I would. Me and Louise would have. It would be field trip day.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Like, it would so fun. Why not? We would love to have you. I mean, we'll be there. We would love to have you.

[Host]

It is seriously, like, that show has done things for me, like. Oh, you have no idea.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm so glad. I mean, I love hearing that because it has done so many things for me. And I feel like maybe. I don't know if this is, like, a thing, but, like, I'm a fan. I'm a fan girl. You know what I mean?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I love to fan over things.

[Host]

I'm the biggest fan girl of all time.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Such a fan.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I am a fan of this show. There's so much of it that I'm not in. So, like, when I watch it, I'm still kind of watching it. Like, Half Brain is as me, and I'm criticizing myself, but the other half of me is just, like, enjoying my friends in the show, the story. Like, I'm really invested in it. So. So hearing other people say that it's meant something to them is like. I mean, it means the world to me.

[Host]

It really is so incredible. Do you have, like, a favorite episode ever? Oh, I have mine.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, wait, what's yours?

[Host]

Okay. Mine's the finale of three.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, I think the greatest episodes of television of all time.

[Host]

Of all time, maybe, bar none, hands down, like, that episode changed, like, how I view the world. Oh. Just because it was so good. You know, it's something so good, and you're just, like, looking at life like, I'm changed artistically. Like, that's how that episode made me feel. Like that episode, the one where Harper is trading on the trading floor. Like. Like four. Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

Those two episodes, I think, are my favorite of industry of all time.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you. Yeah, I'm glad. Those are, I mean, phenomenal episodes, I feel like. Episode. My. My husband is always saying to people who haven't seen the show, and it doesn't. He's not sure, like, if they're not sure if it's going to be for them. He says, start on episode four of season one.

[Host]

Really?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Because that episode with that trade, the anxiety, I think kind of sets the tone for, like, oh, this show is a Finance show. But it's really more like making Conrad say, it's like, how do we make a trade feel like a car chase? And that's the one that does it. I think anyone who watches and they're not sure, they're, like, locked in by. By episode four.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I feel like one of my favorite episodes. Oh, my God. There's actually so many now I'm thinking about. I think it's episode six, the Christmas episode of season one.

[Host]

We have a Christmas episode episodes. The Christmas episodes. Is that, like a thing that they say? Oh, it's the Christmas episode.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes. The Brits love Christmas.

[Host]

Yeah, they really do.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

They, like, love Christmas so bad. They do, yeah. That one's great. Ben Lloyd Hughes, when he runs into the glass at the in episode in the first season and he, like, is banging himself into the glass. That one is really great. There's also so much tea with, like, Robert and Yasmin and Harper in that episode.

[Host]

Robert.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I know. We all do. Shout out, Harry, Lottie, we love you.

[Host]

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[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

Book today on the site or in the app. I never seen, like, bisexuality, like, portrayed Just so casually like, that. I was like. It was in the midst of COVID I was watching. I was watching industry, and all of a sudden he was, like, really, like, courting Yaz. And then he, like, got his dick sucked by this guy. And I was. And then they didn't really harp on it at all.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Also, like, go off a young white man doing that. I think one of the things that Mickey and Connor are really good about that the show is good about is, like. Because people are always like, isn't it a show about, like, sexuality is a show about race? Is it a show about. It's like, no, it's a finance show. And all of these things happen. But we're not trying to tell the audience how they should feel about it, right? It's just like, here it is. And then you get to be like, oh, damn, I could just be by. And it's not a thing, or whatever. You know what I mean?

[Host]

Because they don't make it a thing. It's just. It's just. They lay it out and they're like, here you go.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. Yeah. We're not. We're not trying to, like, bully the audience into feeling like, yay gay or not yay gay. You know, we're just like, here's a piece of the world with no judgment. I think that is really good TV making.

[Host]

It's excellent.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I want to shout out a specific sequence as well in episode four of season one. I love season one.

[Host]

Apparently, Season one's great.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Season one is a great season. This was really fun to shoot. Harry and I, who plays Robert. We did. We had, like, 45 minutes left in a shoot day on episode four, and it was, like, bonkers. They're like, we have one camera. Everyone's trying to get the fuck out of here. But we need to do the sequence where Harper and Robert do drugs together. And it's a short sequence. They, like, get high and we improv the entire thing. They, like, put on music, and we were just, like, pretending to do whatever. He, like, put on this coat, pretended to be Elton John. We were dancing around and the camera was just, like, going crazy. And it was so much fun. It was really run and gun, and we didn't know if we got anything worth its weight and salt. And it turned out to be, like, one of the most fun and maybe like, sort of quintessential industry sequences in the show. I loved, loved shooting that. I also loved shooting the boat stuff with Marisa in season three.

[Host]

That was amazing because I feel like I didn't know if Yaz and Harper were friends at that point. Yeah, I didn't know. And then to see them together for ultimately, what defines Yaz's story for the rest of the show, it was a real moment of, like, genuine chosen family, a hundred percent.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I mean, it's so interesting that now sort of people are coming around to Harper having a moral center.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

That right there to me was the most pure act of love. She's risking her own safety.

[Host]

Right.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

To help her friend cover up like a crime. She really looks at her in the face and says, I see how badly you're hurt. I'll. I will help you. Yeah, I will help you. It's so selfless.

[Host]

I think that's why Yaz always goes

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

back to her 100.

[Host]

And that's why even when Henry is like, your friend Harper, like, she's sorting the company, she's doing this. Yeah. It's like

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

she said, don't talk about my friend like that.

[Host]

Yeah, she said that. Hey, the guys. That's my friend.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

That's my friend.

[Host]

That's my friend. So did you. Is it true you met your husband via kind of this show?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, totally. The other greatest gift of my life via this show. My man. He is also an industry day oner.

[Host]

Yes.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

He was watching the show in Covid and he sent myself and Harry and Mickey and Conrad a message just saying, hey, I'm watching industry. I'm such a fan. Congratulations on the show. I think it's great. And it was deep, coveted. And I was living by myself. And the show was coming out and there was like, no premiere, no interviews, nothing. I was very alone. And I was, like, going through my dms, obviously, like, starving for connection. And I saw his and I was, like, trying to weed out the, like, gross ones, like, people being like, I love the show. Send me a picture of your feet.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I was like. But his wasn't really respectful. So I just. Just said, thank you. And the next day, I woke up to a string of video messages from him. And I was like, girl, what is this, bro? But I was like, let me go on his profile. I was like, wait a minute. He's kind of cute.

[Host]

He's really cute.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'll risk it. So I opened the messages and it was him. And he was literally filming himself. And he was like, hey, my holla, It's Armando. I just wanted to say it was so cool that you responded to my message. I wasn't expecting it. Again, congratulations on the show. I am in a journalism class at university at the moment, I'm just wondering, would you be willing. Available. Interested in doing like, a five, ten minute interview with me for this project? And I was like, not a student.

[Host]

Yeah, like literal student.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I was like, I can't say no to this kid who, like, has a class project. So I was like, yeah, sure, whatever. We hop on a zoom the next day. We were meant to be on for 10, 15 minutes, and we talked for 40 minutes, and I hung up the thing and I was like, I'm in love with a stranger. That's weird. I just was like, whatever, right?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I couldn't stop thinking about him. Like, a week later, I messaged him and was like, did you get an A on your project? I'm like a grown person being like, did you get an A? Week later, it's crazy. I was, like, flirting hard, and then we were just, like, in each other's DMs, talking all day, every day about whatever. It took him three weeks to ask for my phone number. Very respectful, Very respectful. And then very, you know, a la Covid. We were doing, like, FaceTime dates, and we were just talking all the time. He was in San Francisco at university at the time. And I'm from San Jose originally. And so I was gonna go from New York to San Jose to. To see my mom, like, after the holidays. And I was like, yo, I'm gonna be like, 50 minutes south of you. Do you want to meet in person? And he said yes. So I drove up.

[Host]

How nervous were you or were you not at all?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I would have been really shaking in my boots. Yeah, I was shaking in my boots. And all my friends were like, are you psychotic? This man might chop you into bits and we'll never hear from you again. This is just a random stranger from the Internet who, like, watched you on tv. Are you crazy? And I was like, yes. Yeah, I got it bad.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I brought a bottle of wine and some glasses. And I remember, like, parking the car. And he lived on a hill, and he was at the bottom. I, like, turned a corner and he was at the bottom, and I saw him and I was like, he's so tall and fine. Thank God he's tall. And I'm, like, going down the mountain. He turns around and he sees me, and I start running. It was so cheesy. I start running. And then we hug. And we were like. We, like, took a collective breath. It was so crazy. We literally, like. And it felt so easy and so comfortable, like I belonged there. And both of us were sort of like, wait, actually, this feels really normal.

[Host]

It was like love at first sight.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I mean. Yeah, completely. We sat on the roof, we had the wine. I brought hand sanitizer because I hadn't had my COVID test results back and I didn't want to be too risky because I was staying with my mom. So we, like, hand sanitized and held hands.

[Host]

God. Tpt to Covid.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, she. Nothing was gonna stop me. Not Covid. None of it. And that was. That was the end of it. He met my mom the next week and we have been inseparable. I mean, it'll be like five and a half years now. Married for a year and change.

[Host]

Congratulations.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you so much.

[Host]

How was the wedding?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It was really sweet. It was just the two of us. His sister, his parents, and my mom. My best friend from college married us and we had a friend take some pictures. It was really small and.

[Host]

And that's the way to do it, though.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, it was the way for us, certainly. And I think he has a huge family. And so our plan is still. I promise you, familia is still the plan to do a big ceremony in the coachella valleys from Indio. Do a big ceremony there so everyone can come and celebrate us and maybe do a little something in New York for our friends. But we just. We were eager to be married. And so when time and finances permit, we'll throw some parties.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

So we can celebrate with. With loved ones. But. Yeah.

[Host]

Well, what are you therapist about today?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm therapist that it's been so fudgeing cold in New York and so nice. It's crazy. It's like the apocalypse.

[Host]

It's. It's. I can't. I can't do it.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's so bad. It was so bad.

[Host]

You know, it's bad when you're like. I thought global warming was going to make it hard.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. No, girl, it's. It's. It's been like the most depressed myself, my friends and family have ever been because it's been so long.

[Host]

Is it still cold right now in New York?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Literally. My mom was like. It was raining the other day, and then it was like 80 degrees, but it keeps. It's like this.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, you know, it's too much.

[Host]

Is it. Are you living in New York now?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

Okay. When are you going back?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Tomorrow.

[Host]

I go back tomorrow. What flight are you on?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Well, I'm on a late flight.

[Host]

I'm on a late flight. Are you delta?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes.

[Host]

Are you on the 9:15? Shut up. I'm so excited.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's going down on the plane.

[Host]

Base. I'm so excited.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, I'll see you in the lounge.

[Host]

See you in the lounge. Oh my God. Wait. I'm pumped.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Me too.

[Host]

I'm pumped.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, it's gonna be great.

[Host]

Oh my God, how fun.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Do you live there or do you.

[Host]

No, I just got a place there. I'm from there.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, that's right.

[Host]

I need a New York summer.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Okay, well, so will you be there this summer?

[Host]

Yep. I want to be for the streets this summer. That's like I was telling somebody the other day, like, what my behavior and they were like, why are you like, for the streets?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I was like, the streets deserve it.

[Host]

I was like, I'm having fun.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

There was some respect on the streets.

[Host]

Also my degree.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Streets of New York are kind of iconic.

[Host]

They are very like, I'm ready to like be outside drinking wine on rooftops.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Hell yeah.

[Host]

Because LA can be very isolating. I don't know if you've experienced it, but it can be like, I don't drive. So it's like.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You don't drive in la?

[Host]

No, I Uber every day or I have my friends driving everywhere.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Uber, Uber everywhere. Is it. Okay, practical question. Is it like less expensive?

[Host]

We've done the costs. I don't think so. But like for safe. For everyone's safety. Mental well being. It's better that I do.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Keeping you off the road.

[Host]

Like, I'm so addicted to my phone.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I know that, like, know thyself. That's really good. You're protecting people.

[Host]

I'm. I am, I am. I know I would be a bad driver. My dad's like, you can't drive. I'm like, okay. Like, it's his one thing. I won't drive.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

For the streets and for the people. Yeah, I live right. I love driving. I miss driving.

[Host]

I've never gotten to experience a moment in the car where it's just you and you're like listening to music and you're like, I know, I've heard. It's amazing.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's really nice. A moment of alone is hard to come by nowadays as well.

[Host]

I know. And like now you could say like, oh, do a waymo. But they're always watching in the way. Hell no way modes. I. I just. I can't get behind it. I can't. Really bugs me out so bad.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

That Skarsgard movie where he gets locked in the car. Did you see that?

[Host]

Yes, girl. So random. I did see that movie.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Crazy film. Yeah, he's a great actor. Crazy film.

[Host]

Oh, my God. That is one of those movies where it's like, you've never meet someone that's seen that movie.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, I watched it on a plane.

[Host]

I watched it. I watched it on a plane, too. And I remember being like, this is weird.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm like, waiting for the plane to lock its doors and tell us all to do the Macarena.

[Host]

Yeah, like, fudgeing. It's like Saw, but like the AI version.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, no, girl, the way Mo's is not for me.

[Host]

And you were in a movie where all the cars combusted on themselves.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes.

[Host]

Leave the world behind. Which the world could actually very happen.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Listen, I know everyone is listening, but, like, she is upon us. The world is Loki leaving us behind. Honey.

[Host]

Well, that was like. That was one of those apocalypse movies where I was like, oh, my God. Ah, that could really happen. Have you seen this movie?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Also, like, pieces of it is already happening.

[Host]

It's terrifying.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It is. It really is. No way.

[Host]

No way. Most. All right, do you want to get into the. Tell me what's wrong.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, please.

[Host]

When I get drunk, I trauma dump. Dump. It's literally so embarrassing and gives me crazy anxiety the next day. I do this too. I did this to Marisa. She was like, she loved it. Yeah, I saw her at Vanny Fair. She's like, do you remember you? I said, oh, my God. Like, one time I literally told my crush, who I had only met two times, about my parents divorce. That's fine. And my daddy issues and my trauma. Nobody gives a knowing that about me. And I don't want them to know either. Help. Well, I would disagree with nobody gives

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

a. Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. Nobody. I care. I care also, like, drunk or not, like, good for you for being vulnerable.

[Host]

I agree.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Go ahead. And if somebody thinks you oversharing is weird, I think they're weird and they're not your person. Exactly.

[Host]

A friend to be a lover, anything.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I agree.

[Host]

I love trauma dumping. I do. I just. I love, like, being vulnerable and like, telling people I have really bad ocd. So, like, if I can show you all sides of me immediately and you can see it, then we can move forward in whatever relationship we find us. I can't lie. I'm a really bad liar.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, me too. Great actor, bad liar.

[Host]

Yeah, I mean, it's just. I feel so guilty lying. It's like a guilt thing. I like, so. But that, like, manifests in me, like, trauma dumping over sharing.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, I see. I see, I see. Yeah. I feel like, know the space you're in because sometimes it could be kind of dangerous, right? You can't be too trusting. But I think if you're like, oh, I talked to my baby. My parents. Isn't everyone's parents divorced? That's what I'm saying. You know what I mean?

[Host]

It's not like real trauma. Like, I mean, it's real trauma, but, like, it's like, sorry, it's like canceled. It's like, you can talk about your parents divorce when you're drunk and not feel anxiety. I've done far worse. I have nights that I don't remember at all. Yeah, same at all. Like, I've had, like. Yes, you're validated. And it's okay.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You're gonna be fine, sweetie.

[Host]

My partner's mom followed his most recent ex after we've been dating for four years. Oh, I would. This at first was just really weird, but not a big deal. Flash forward a couple months, and now she's been regularly going on coughing date, coffee dates, and evening going out and even going out with his ex. The reason I'm writing in today is because last week she invited her over to our family brunch. How do we deal with this?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

What the hell is wrong with her? Sorry, but, like, that is psychotic.

[Host]

That's psychotic.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

What is wrong with.

[Host]

She also knows what she's doing.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

100.

[Host]

She's with you.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. That is up.

[Host]

And that's on your partner to lay

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

a boundary, I gotta say. Yeah, there is. I know it's a fine line because, like, that's your mommy or whatever, but, like, protect your girl.

[Host]

I would watch you remember that. What was that show that came out that everyone was obsessed with Girlfriend. The Girlfriend. Was that it? With the. It was the British show. Oh, yeah. Did they just say. Yeah, yeah, I would watch the girlfriend. It ends in murder, but I would watch the girlfriend.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Well, yeah. Better safe than sorry.

[Host]

What is it? Monster in Law. Do you remember that movie?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, but it all sounds scary. In laws are so tricky. I get it. But also, girl, what is wrong with her?

[Host]

That's that I've had friends in relationships where, like, the mom has, like, done shit like that and it's. It is all on your partner and that. It is nothing to do with you. It is not on you.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, no, not at all.

[Host]

Like, you're marrying a person. I mean, you are marrying the family, but, like, that is on them to lay down the boundaries. Me, like, you're making the person that I'm gonna probably marry very uncomfortable.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, totally.

[Host]

And also, why are you doing this?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

If I was her, I'd be like, why are you doing this?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Why are you doing this? Girl, leave me alone. Yeah, I agree. That's crazy.

[Host]

Yeah. Oh, my God. I'd freak out. Probably why I'm still single. I think I'm incredibly influenced emotionally by the weather.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes. Me too.

[Host]

I am too. It was raining the other day. My whole body hurt. I shut down. I smoked alone. I was like, I'm done. I live in Vancouver and I'm genuinely starting to notice my depression might just be from how it's always raining.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

The thing is, all my family and friends and life are here, so I want. So if I wanted to move, I need to start it new. Is this an overreaction? I've heard this is a thing, so

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I don't think that's an overreaction at all. You're just trying to figure out why you're so depressed. Seasonally affected disorder is a real thing. The lack of vitamin D in the brain can also, like, trigger serotonin some.

[Host]

Really?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes, yes, yes. Literally everybody, especially us people who live inside a studio are vitamin D deficient. And it is like a big. Has a big effect on the mood and how the brain works.

[Host]

Okay. My dad always tries to get me to take vitamin D every morning.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And I never sad. Take it.

[Host]

I never listen to him. I feel like I should.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

No, no, dude, take it. Take it. Vitamin D with vitamin K3, I think is the way, like, they need. You need both.

[Host]

Your body needs both vitamin D and vitamin K3.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. I'm not a doctor, but, like, that's the one that I take to make it absorbable. And I take like 10, 000 units a day.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Which is a ton. But I would say look into some of those, like, seasonally affected disorder, like, things maybe start with vitamin D. My mom also got me on a light therapy, which is like a. It could be an LED light, but it's like certain UV whatevers that you turn it on first thing in the morning where you, you know when they say, like, go outside and touch grass and like, look at the sun.

[Host]

Yes.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

But what the light does in your eyes to your, like, circadian rhythms is like a real thing. So, like that light therapy, like 20 minutes first thing in the morning can really help set the tone in your mood for the day. I would also say exercise.

[Host]

Exercise. That's what I was about to say. Moving your body, like, when I'm like, in the. Like when I'm really Going through seasonal depression, which I go through every year, Specifically the time between New Year's and Christmas.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

That is the worst time of the year.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Really tragic.

[Host]

It's a really tragic, horrible time.

[Co-host]

Where is.

[Host]

Everyone's like, I'm home with my family. I'm like, I'm miserable.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, it's rough.

[Host]

It's rough. And you need to move your body. When I started working out for my mental health, as opposed to just my physique, my physique changed.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

And then my whole thing changed. It was like I was working out for years with no change. And then the second I was like, well, I have to go work out or else I'm gonna feel like for the rest of the day.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like, that's when everything changes. And you, like, your. You view life a little, like, lighter and everything's a little better. And it's like.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's true. It's really true. You just got to get those endorphins going, pushing them in your brain. Also, like, sweating is. Is one of the big ways that your body, like, flushes toxins. It gets the lymph system going. There's so many reasons to exercise. Yeah, that is one of those. And then if none of that works, Move.

[Host]

Yeah, move. And it's okay to move. I've had friends that, like, have moved to the middle of nowhere, knowing no one, and have come out, like, better people for it.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Totally.

[Host]

It's just like. Like, didn't you move here not knowing anyone?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Where are you from? Atlanta. Okay.

[Co-host]

Originally, I, like, had some friends, but not really. Yeah, but yeah, it was awesome. And I also will say I was really affected by the seasons for all of college, all of my childhood, and then moving here, like, I feel lighter.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. Yeah, totally. This. The sun is a really big deal.

[Host]

The sun. And you know where the sun hits the hardest? New York.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, well, you know what that is? It's because we collectively, as a people, suffer for months. For months.

[Host]

And then the second it's like, 60 degrees shorts, we would all go to the park in high school.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Everyone's outside. Like, I love everything.

[Host]

Yes.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yes.

[Host]

It's a collection. Active. Like, sigh.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's. The vibes in spring in New York are amazing.

[Host]

Oh, I'm so ready to fly back tomorrow. I'm like, get me on the plane.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, right. We're ready.

[Host]

I'm ready. I'm about to, like, go, like, lay out and, like, just vibe. But yes. Don't be afraid to move and move your body. Move in all aspects.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Follow your intuition as well, if you're like, I'm really feeling like this move might be good, just, you know, follow that. Yeah, follow that.

[Host]

Because you, you really only live once.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's true.

[Host]

You really do. Whenever I'm like, should I do this? I know I'm like, well, what the fuck?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

What else am I gonna do?

[Host]

What else am I gonna do?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Nothing.

[Host]

Exactly. Crazy. I'm slowly watching my partner turn into a conspiracy theorist. I've always loved his passion for current events and even politics, but recently he's just been so weighed down by it, but still insists on watching and consuming every story, opinion, etc. Not only is this just unattractive, it makes me sad for his day to day well being. How do I help him without hurting in him?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh.

[Host]

God, I don't know. Because like, I don't know what makes a conspiracy theorist anymore.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Like, yeah, actually very good point.

[Host]

Do you know what I mean? Like there's so much that's. I'm reading that I was like, am I like there's so much information pumped out constantly that like, maybe you guys are just going down two different paths.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's very possible. I always say in times of conflict like this with a partner, like, and you want to bring something up to them, which is like actually just their problem. I always say, like, try to reframe. Always, always talk. Like keep talking, but try to reframe it about you. Like saying, I'm feeling right far away from you. I feel like we maybe spend a little less time talking about our mutual interests. I just want to feel close to you. Could we maybe spend a little more time doing this as opposed to this or you know what I mean? Or like I would really like to try having like a no phone hour, like maybe where we can just reconnect or make it about sex.

[Host]

I don't know.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You know what I mean?

[Host]

Just watch a movie together. Yeah, like cook together.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Not about like, like not a movie about like 9 11, like, you know what I mean? Like something else. Yeah, try that first maybe.

[Host]

And like, maybe, maybe look at yourself and like being like. Am I being judgmental?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Totally.

[Host]

You know what I mean? Like I could totally like, because like you don't know, everyone's like it, it's set. That is so tricky.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

It's very hard. Maybe you should get into it. Maybe you should also become a conspiracy

[Host]

theorist and see what the vibe.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I feel like that sex would be incredible.

[Host]

I've been with my boyfriend for around a year and the fact that he's kind of broke is really getting to Me, for context, before we started dating, he would get me flowers weekly and all these random gifts. And I get it. He's got a part time job and is studying. But like, he spends more money on betting than on me nowadays. What do I do? And how do I not sound like an entitled ass?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Wait, pause. The betting is also for you. No.

[Host]

Yeah. And you need to watch Industry season three, the episode, the Christmas episode where Rishi literally blows up his life.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah, that's so funny. Wait, okay. Actually, I want to talk about this because this is really interesting. Like, there's totally like, you get to have your like non negotiables. Obviously everyone gets to maintain set and maintain their own boundaries. And like life is so hard right now. Like, people are broke, jobs suck, gas is a million dollars. You know what is.

[Host]

I don't even drive it. I know that.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Okay, exactly.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I don't even drive currently and I know that. But I would just say, like, especially like post covered, things have been so crazy, like, with the. All the things, like, maybe just try to have a little more compassion for like why someone might be broke. Unless you think they're like not trying. You know what I mean?

[Host]

The issue is that they're spending money in other fashions. But I think the compassion still applies because he. He's betting. But like clearly to like.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Betting? Oh my God. I thought you meant like linens, as in.

[Host]

No, I said watch industry. That's why I was like. I was like, no, that he's betting his money.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, hell no. Gambling. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Scratch everything I said.

[Host]

That's with your switch up.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I'm passionate about betting.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Give me a break. No, no, that would drive me through.

[Host]

We saw how that ended in Industry.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Exactly. Watch that episode because your life's going to shit.

[Host]

One of the great Christmas episodes of Industry.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

So crazy that it's a Christmas episode.

[Host]

I'm telling you, it's always the fucking Christmas episode. It's always the Christmas.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I wonder what they'll do for this Christmas.

[Host]

That's what I was wondering. Because this Christmas wasn't. What was this? Was this Christmas the Kit Harrington episode, when it was. Yeah, that was. Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

In. In Muck Manor. They had the big cheer and all this stuff. Yeah.

[Host]

And Yaz kicks out her on Iconic. Hey, Jake. And lovely guest. Basically. My dad gave me his old iPad, but still has his. But still had his WhatsApp connected to it. And I saw him texting a mistress of some sort of. My Heart dropped. Because I thought my parents were healthy and good. I snooped a little more to find out. This girl was his sugar baby of sorts, and he was signed up to all these sugar daddy sites. Is it my place to ask him about it, or should I go straight to my mom? Help. This is so weird.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, I think that really depends on what your relationship is with both of the parents.

[Host]

You're already handling it better than I would because, like, you're writing in and you're, like, trying to find a good

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

way to, like, getting advice.

[Host]

Oh, I don't know what I would do. I would go to my sibling, if I had a sibling, and be like, what the am I supposed to do with this? And if you don't have a sibling, I would go to my mom. I would go to my mom. I would just say, this is what's happening. Deal. I can't. Oh, yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Yeah. That's probably the way, isn't it?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I didn't have two parents to do this sort of thing with, so.

[Host]

Yeah, that would be. I think my thing would be I would go to my mom.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, you know what? I might do a la Harper. I might go to my dad and be like, if you don't deal with this, I will.

[Host]

Yeah, that's also a good.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

And threaten them.

[Host]

Yeah. My thing is I would feel so guilty that if my mom knew I knew and, like, oh, right. It would. It's so.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, yeah. I guess it depends on the personality of the parents as well.

[Host]

Duh.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Good luck.

[Host]

Good luck. Well, what did we learn today?

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

What did we learn today?

[Host]

I learned about the bodies and the mind.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

Like, how they connect.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

We learned about vitamin D and believing in yourself. Yeah, totally.

[Host]

And, like, surviving your Saturn return.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Hell, yeah. I learned. And I mean, I. I sort of, like, gleaned this of you anyway, but, like, you're such a Kiki. Like, you're such.

[Host]

Really.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You're such a key. You're so much fun. You clearly love to have fun, and you love people. Like, you have a show where you get to talk to people about people. You also clearly love to help people. If you have people writing in, you want to talk about advice. So I learned today that, like, you're really for the streets.

[Host]

Yeah, I am really for the streets.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

You are a community person.

[Host]

Yes.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

I feel very, like, loved and appreciated by you.

[Host]

You are. I'm so glad you feel that way because you are so loved and appreciated in this house.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm really grateful that we got to do this.

[Host]

Me too. Well, thanks for coming on the show.

[Guest (likely an actress from Industry)]

Bye, Pussies.

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