Session 132: Role Model Strikes Back

Summary

Podcast Summary: Therapuss with Jake Shane

Episode: Session 132 – "Role Model Strikes Back"
Date: July 16, 2026
Host: Jake Shane
Guest: Tucker Pillsbury (aka Role Model), Brett, Mandy

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Episode Overview

In this lively, emotionally candid, and reliably chaotic session, Jake Shane and returning guest Tucker Pillsbury (musician "Role Model") reunite for their third episode together—and their first since the podcast moved to Netflix. Joined periodically by Brett and Mandy, the crew dives into friendship changes, mental health, career shifts, fan interactions, and the weird, wonderful minutiae of daily life.

True to Therapuss form, the tone alternates between tongue-in-cheek banter and genuine introspection about change, confidence, creative pursuits, and the (sometimes overblown) drama of the internet. This episode features callbacks to past inside jokes and segments, and the affectionate, sibling-like dynamic between Jake and Tucker, complete with improv games, fake dates, and listener interaction.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Big Changes: Moving Out and Growing Up

• Brett and Tucker reflect on their last month living together, expressing sadness and the surreal feeling of it ending.

  • Brett: "I really can't talk about it. I might start crying." (00:36)
  • Tucker: "It hasn't hit me yet... but I push. Repress." (00:39)

• Tucker discusses his "vintage shopping journey" beginning in Japan and via Depop, highlighting the obsessive thrill of finding unique pieces.

  • Tucker: "My issue with vintage shopping is... I feel like I need it all, because it's one of one." (01:32)

2. Role Model's Unexpected Audience

• Brett’s mom, Mandy, is a huge Role Model fan, reflecting on his multi-generational appeal and discussing her favorite songs.
  • Mandy: "He does this little thing with his mouth, sends the crowd spinning. He's a wordsmith... he's written powerful lyrics that we all want to sing." (04:05)
  • Her favorite songs: "Life is Funny" (Early Tucker), "Say It First", "Some Protector". (09:44)

3. Media Fixations: Nostalgia, TV & Movies

• The group swaps nostalgic stories about watching Skins (which Tucker credits as changing his life), Hunger Games, and Entourage.

  • Tucker: "Skins is amazing... Skins walked so Euphoria could run. Or vice versa." (08:45)

• They debate modern TV exposition and how shows now overtly explain plot points due to social media distractions.

  • Tucker: "Today in TV shows, they like, outright say things because they assume you're on your phone." (07:19)

4. Touring, America vs. Europe, and Homesickness

• Tucker and Jake talk touring, American and European differences, and feeling nostalgic for America after traveling.
  • Jake: "I will say, I weirdly miss America... you land in an American airport, and I see the McDonald's... it just, like, makes me happy." (32:14)
  • Tucker: Noted loving American air conditioning and drinks with ice. (33:00)

5. Mental Health, Routine, and Working Out

• Jake discusses his journey toward embracing fitness, crediting the Alo Wellness Club and Tucker’s encouragement for his progress.
  • Jake: "My body has transformed so much since then... I've never felt comfortable with my shirt off." (12:33)
• Routine and overwhelm were frequent themes; Jake and Brett share mantras about being “grateful, not underwhelmed.” (13:53)

6. Game & Improv Segments

• The "Three, Two, One" word game makes a return, showing how their friendship dynamic has evolved.

• They role-play awkward first dates and explore how vulnerability and honesty can be misread in romantic contexts.

  • Jake: "Maybe you should be more open on your dates. And maybe that's why you haven't found love yet." (67:45)

• Improvled to plenty of silliness, like the on-the-spot creation of the Pride anthem “It’s Okay to Be Gay.”

  • Jake (singing): "Whoa, whoa, it's okay to be gay…" (44:28)

7. Fan Engagement & Listener Calls

• Mandy, who previously submitted a request to appear on an episode with Tucker, receives a surprise call. She is overwhelmed and emotional, representing the podcast’s strong fan connection. (75:00–78:35)
  • Mandy: "I literally was just telling my friend that I was manifesting going to meet you in New York City." (75:57)

8. Relationships, Vulnerability & Self-Awareness

• Jake opens up about wanting to be a single father, and Tucker admits to struggles with dating and a desire for two kids.
  • Jake: "My dream has always been to be a single father and to have a daughter and to raise a daughter by myself would be really fun." (58:05)
• Both muse on the perks and anxieties of fame, and the struggle for authenticity under the microscope of the internet.
  • Tucker: "Do you like being famous more than..."
  • Jake: "I think there's parts of it that I like, but I don't ever want to not be able to do things because I'm famous." (59:59)

9. Physical and Mental Health Anecdotes

• Jake and Tucker share stories about injuries, chronic issues, and nervous habits, including Jake's diabetes, fainting on planes, and dealing with stress through fishing.

  • Jake: "That is...amazing fishing. It's the best. It's quiet, dead quiet…my mind just goes blank, and I love that." (47:35)

• They swap prescription-free "advice" for listeners' messy relationship and engagement dilemmas—to mostly comedic effect.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Jake, on positive change:
  “I just want to start by saying I’m proud of you. You’re a very hard worker. You’ve done so much more than make TikToks impersonating things.” (15:49)

• Tucker, on America vs. Europe:
  “I think I like America. And I know I’ll probably get in trouble for saying it…” (32:46)

• On fan connection:
  Mandy (listener): "This is crazy…this literally just made my entire life." (76:32)

• On navigating fame:
  Tucker: "I genuinely believe I am meant to be famous. I have no trained talents, no passion for any celebrity careers, and I hate the Internet. But I still have this weird feeling I was meant for something more. Is this just narcissism or a calling?" (59:29)

• Jake (singing):
  "Whoa, whoa, it's okay to be gay…" (44:28)

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• Roommate Farewells & Vintage Shopping: 00:36–02:13
• Brett’s Mom, “Mocho,” on Role Model: 02:14–06:08
• Skins & TV Exposition Discourse: 06:58–08:45
• Sally Bit & Song Favorites: 13:01–14:24; 21:55–22:25
• Affirmations and Kindness Segment: 15:49–16:22
• Netflix Transition & Relationship Evolution: 30:47–31:20
• America vs. Europe, Comfort of Home: 32:14–34:23
• Role Playing Awkward Dates: 60:40–67:31
• Fan Mandy Gets Surprise Call: 74:38–78:29
• Perks, Anxieties of Fame: 59:29–60:26
• Closing Reflections & Hilarious Goodbyes: 79:07–80:26

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Final Learnings & Tone

The episode is earnest, self-aware, and laugh-out-loud funny, full of meta-commentary about evolving friendships and internet culture. Jake and Tucker’s rapport is characterized by a willingness to embrace discomfort, share fears, and encourage vulnerability, while always circling back to mutual hype, absurdity, and genuine gratitude for one another and their audience.

Jake: “I think what we feel. What I feel right now is like…the first two were amazing and now it’s like…the third and it’s like, well what now?” (30:47)
Tucker: “Do you ever feel like, if all goes wrong, at least we have each other?” (50:55)

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Transcript

[Jake Shane]

I'm Arch Manning. I'm Madison Skinner.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm Eva Jovic.

[Jake Shane]

I'm Decoria Moore. Wanna train like a Red Bull athlete?

[Mandy]

Tell us your fitness goals this summer

[Tucker Pillsbury]

to enter the Red Bull athlete Challenge. You'll get to try each of our workouts for a chance to win an ultimate Red Bull experience. Think you have what it takes? Tucker is back on the podcast, and Brett is here doing the today. Hi, B. Hi. I missed you so much. I missed you more. This is our last month living together.

[Brett]

I really can't talk about it. I might start crying.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I. It hasn't hit me yet.

[Brett]

It's starting to kind of hit me.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It really hasn't hit me yet.

[Brett]

And it's really making me sad.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But I push.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

That's what Alicia from Rhode island taught me. Just push it down.

[Brett]

Push, Push it down.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Repress.

[Brett]

I'll do that for the next few weeks.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. What's the point in being miserable?

[Brett]

It's too much going on.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, but you were very stressed today.

[Brett]

Yeah, I just have a lot. There's a lot going on. Well, you have a lot going on, too. You're about to leave.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I've changed. My personality has shifted a lot these past few months. Why do you think I'm vintage shopping now?

[Brett]

Right. That's the shirt.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Vintage, you guys. I only shop at one vintage store, which I know, like, is. Takes away the whole point from vintage shopping. Actually, say by vintage Journey started maybe at the beginning of this year.

[Brett]

I think it started in Japan.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It started in Japan and on Depop.

[Brett]

Right.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And it. I just took it to a level where it's like, I feel like my issue with vintage shopping is I feel like I need. I need it all. Because it's, like, one of one, and

[Brett]

it's, like, so cool. It's like, pieces, like, are, like, cool.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. I'm like, I don't know when. Where this is from, but it spoke to me.

[Brett]

Remember we went to the Silver Lake flea market and vintage stores in college, and I bought that Chicago Bulls shirt that I like?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Was it so hot?

[Brett]

It was hot. It was senior year.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Why don't I remember that? Wait. Yes.

[Brett]

And I bought the. The three Mendis shirt.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you wear it still?

[Brett]

Like, not. Not as much as I used to. I, like, lived in that shirt senior year, and we were like, oh, my God. Like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, because it's, like, one of one. It's like, where'd you get this?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't know if people know this, but do people know your mom is Tucker's number one fan.

[Brett]

I don't think people know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Can you explain?

[Brett]

So. So my mom discovered Role Model last year. No, maybe a year and a half ago. But she was. She was early on it for like, the moms.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, he has a big mom audience.

[Brett]

He has a big mom audience. But she was early on it and she like, became obsessed and like, obsessed with his new album. And like, she loves Tucker so much. She knows all his songs. And Jake once nicely got her a video message. Yeah, Jake got her a video message from Tucker and she calls him Tucker, not role Model. But should we ask her what her favorite song is? Should we see if she picks up? I think she would appreciate that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, just speak her phone in.

[Brett]

I'm here with Jakey.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hi, Mocho.

[Brett]

We are recording the intro to the

[Tucker Pillsbury]

therapist episode with Tucker and we wanted to know what your fate. We wanted to know what your favorite thing about Tucker is and your favorite song.

[Mandy]

Okay, but before I do that, can we just take a beat? Jake, are you aware of how good you look? And do you feel as good about yourself as you look currently?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know what? Today I felt it. Today I felt it. I'm laughing.

[Mandy]

Are you hearing me?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, I. And I need to hear you more because I. I do have. I'm still having like negative mindset.

[Mandy]

Okay, well, baby steps. But I want to tell you thank you. Sort of like Brett had a moment when she just like her authentic sunshine returned. And I feel like that's where you are right now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes, thank you. Oh, you really feel that way?

[Mandy]

I wouldn't say it if I didn't, honey.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, that's nice. Love you, Mocho. Thank you.

[Mandy]

You guys know that. All right, Tucker, like, I have to be careful because I'm a 62 year old grandmother. I can't. I gotta be careful because it's very sexual. But like, he just does this little thing with his mouth, sends the crowd spinning. And he is. He's a wordsmith, which I know you guys appreciate because of Taylor. Yeah, he has written powerful lyrics that we all want to sing from the top of our lungs and that is rare.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So, yeah, he's a rarity.

[Brett]

What's your favorite song if you have to choose?

[Mandy]

I only do one. You can do.

[Brett]

You can do two.

[Mandy]

Can I do Early Tucker and then.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes, please, please.

[Mandy]

Yeah, okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

All right.

[Mandy]

But I want to get the correct because the lyrics are in my head rather than song titles. So let me do a little research and I will do a text to you guys.

[Brett]

Okay, that's fine.

[Mandy]

And he has Sold out the salt shed before Mocho could get tickets. So I'm gonna lean in, guys. When? That's in September.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker.

[Brett]

What's the Salt Shed?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

A venue in Chicago.

[Mandy]

He's playing this venue in Chicago, which is outrageous and cool and. I mean, I. I was talking. Okay. I played Tucker's. The video that you got for me, Jake, at a party on the 4th of July because the girls were like, oh, my God, Mo were totally in a role model because of you. And I'm like, yeah, well, his name is Tucker on my phone. And they're like, why don't you put that on social media? I go, because that's not for social media. That's for me and you because I've had two cocktails.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes.

[Brett]

Okay, well, we'll get you to Tucker in Chicago, Mom.

[Mandy]

Love you. Oh, my God. All right, so I will send. I know the words, but what are the words? The title of the song. You'll know the lyrics.

[Brett]

Some pretender, that one.

[Mandy]

No, just don't. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna. I'm in the middle of an insurance assignment, but I will do your assignment as soon as I'm done with this.

[Brett]

All right? Okay. Love you. Bye.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Love you. Mocho, where were you? Just.

[Brett]

I was just in Switzerland. In Croatia.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, yes. Brad, Brett. Brock. Brett, I can't speak to.

[Brett]

Oh, wait, did you see I got cautious in Switzerland?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I did see that, and I'm realizing I can't speak because I'm high.

[Brett]

That makes sense.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm like, why can't I speak? Like, why aren't my thoughts connecting to my.

[Brett]

Yeah. Did you end up smoking earlier at,

[Tucker Pillsbury]

like, a. Yeah, 11. I did.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's the summer. When it's the summer and it's hot out, you just want to, like, be high, like, in the sun. And by the way, I've been getting some color on my face. Like, I woke up with some freckles.

[Brett]

Love.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, I've been watching Skins uk. Have you ever seen.

[Brett]

No. Was that on mtv?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So there was a U. S. Version on mtv, and that was very poorly received.

[Brett]

Yeah, I remember.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Very, very, very poorly received.

[Brett]

I remember my mom used to tell me if I saw Hawkins on the TV Guide, I couldn't. I couldn't press the show. I couldn't watch it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, you know, today in TV shows, they, like, outright say things because they assume that you're on your phone. Do you know this? They give, like, extra exposition.

[Brett]

I actually did know this.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, they give, like. And I'm in the Restaurant. Like, they like. Like that, so. Because they assume people are on their phone, but. Whereas if you're back in the day, if you're. I'm watching Skins, and I'm like, oh, I have to, like, put my phone down and lock in, because I'm, like, going to miss some, like, minor detail that expl. That implies and explains this, because each episode's a different character. Oh, my God. Skins is amazing. Louise, you would die. How have you not seen Skins? Wait, what?

[Brett]

I've seen it, like, four times.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, like when it was. When it was airing. Well, I'm on a skin journey.

[Brett]

Well, I don't want to change the subjects.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You can change the subject.

[Brett]

The new Hunger Games movie is going to change your life.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Why? Because the book.

[Brett]

The book. Have you read it?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I haven't read it, but I've been following your story. No, no, no, no, no.

[Brett]

Like, you don't understand. It's about Haymitch's games. The book is.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Should I read the book?

[Brett]

Like, maybe. Have you been reading?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, but it. Like, what else am I gonna do?

[Brett]

It is so good. So sad.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Brett]

So good. And the movie comes out November, and I'm so excited because I know you love the Hunger Games, and I do, too.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love the Hunger.

[Mandy]

It's gonna.

[Brett]

It's gonna, like. It's gonna.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, maybe I'll give it a. Maybe I'll give it a read.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is it an easy read?

[Brett]

I mean, did you read the original Hunger Games?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Easiest reads ever, then.

[Brett]

Yes, it's very similar to the first one.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, I'm sold.

[Brett]

Yeah, I read it on vacation. It was amazing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You need to watch Skins, though.

[Brett]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's old, though. It's, like, from 2007. Like, I don't know if you're down for that.

[Brett]

No, that's fine.

[Mandy]

I'm.

[Brett]

I'm rewatching.

[Jake Shane]

Or.

[Brett]

Actually, no, I'm not rewatching. I'm watching Entourage right now with Matt.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, then you can definitely do Skins, which is Skins walk so Euphoria could run. Or honestly, vice versa. Skins ran so Euphoria could walk like Skins. It's, like, actually, like, no offense to Euphoria. Like, Euphoria is great, but Skins is, like, changed my life. Like, Skins is like, I'm watching it, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, the way these people live. Like, yeah, you could argue that it's bad because they, like, kind of are so day by day and, like. But not everything is the end of the world. Like, things kind of just happen in Skins. And life moves on. Do you know what I mean?

[Brett]

That's a good message.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, life moves on. Like, no one in the show is like, oh, my God. It's the best show I've ever seen. It's amazing. The theme songs, like a banger.

[Brett]

I'm seeing if my mom has texted us. She hasn't.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

We've loved role models since senior year of college. Yes. Rx. What was our favorite? What was our favorite song off that?

[Brett]

Oh, she just responded. My mom said life is funny. Number one, Early Tucker with say it first. Close. Second Current talker, some protector.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, she's, like, going with.

[Brett]

With high hopes. 3000 in second by a nose forever and more.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, wait. Give me, give me, give me, give me.

[Brett]

Oh, and never let you go. And. And die for my. And who hurt you?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Wait, my favorite is so good. Oh, I think my favorite was rx. Do you remember I loved our ex.

[Brett]

Yeah. On the way to berries.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Never let you go was so good.

[Brett]

So good.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But okay, at this current time, I'm in France, and if France is still in the World cup, oh, it's gonna be insane. It's gonna be insane. I'm gonna be having the time of my life.

[Brett]

Well, because everyone says Mbappe is, like, the best player, and he's French. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I'm gonna be in France. Do you think they're gonna, like, have it on, like, every bar?

[Brett]

Yes, I think so. I think they go.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I think they go, oh, my God. I was in France during the fucking heat wave.

[Brett]

Which is genuinely. Like, we didn't talk about it enough.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Because I shut my mouth. I complain. Yeah, but I.

[Mandy]

We didn't.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

We don't talk about the fact that I was there for Louise. I mean, Brett, wow. When I left my hotel, I couldn't. I actually couldn't leave my hotel.

[Mandy]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know, I can't even put. There was no one on the street.

[Brett]

Nobody was like, 105 degrees.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It was crazy, crazy, crazy. Like, crazy. Like, I've never been so hot in my entire life. I was out at night. One night, the one night I went out, I was drinking wine, and all of a sudden, I feel a drop. And my back had been dripping sweat everywhere. And then I just looked around, and everyone's back was dripping.

[Brett]

Everyone's dripping.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I was like, okay, I guess I'll lean into the sweat.

[Brett]

Yeah, you kind of have to.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It makes going out a tad more vulnerable and a tad more fun, I would say, actually, as well. Like, when I was out and I was sweating, I was Like, I'm out and I'm sweating, and I feel like I'm letting myself. Oh, the new Madonna album is amazing. Speaking of sweating, have you heard. Speaking of sweating, have you heard the new Madonna album? I've listened to, like, three songs low.

[Brett]

He said I haven't listened.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's so good. It's so good. Read my lips. Oh, good for the soul. Like.

[Brett]

Oh, you've been, like, listening to this album?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Dude, I've been listening to this album.

[Brett]

Wow.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, what I love about the album is it's really helping me deep dive into Madonna. And I'm, like, so fascinated about her early days in New York in the 80s and late 70s. I'm, like, fascinated by it.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, when you are away, are you gonna be using my Shake and train with Jake Shane series on the Alo wellness club app?

[Brett]

Yeah, of course. I already have it downloaded.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Aw, thank you. What's crazy about the Alo stuff is actually one of the first people to compliment me on my workout journey was Tucker in that very first episode. And my body has transformed so much since then. So I just am really excited that I got to do this because I'm like, I feel. I feel. I've never felt comfortable with my shirt off, as you know.

[Brett]

It's so full circle and amazing. Aloe has been such a big thing for you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Biggest.

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Every morning you go in aloe. Yeah, every single morning.

[Brett]

It's really a routine, and I got

[Tucker Pillsbury]

to shoot it in the south of

[Brett]

France, which is amazing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Which is amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And if you guys want to check it out for yourself, you can go to theallo wellness club.com jake to download the app and do my Shake and Train with Jake Shane series today, as well as 4,000 other classes that include pilates, strength training, yoga barre mat, everything you need. And it's free. I thought a fun way to stay in touch when you move despite you saying, like, I know. You're like, it's close by. We should send each other what song we're listening to that day that we're hyper fixated on.

[Brett]

Yes.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Because we both always hyper fixate on a song of the day. So we always just like, wake up and send the song.

[Brett]

Yes.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I think that's a beautiful way to stay in touch.

[Brett]

Let's do that. But I was telling Max today that I'm just, like, so overwhelmed with, like, things that I have on to or I have going on too. And he said, well, it's better that to be underwhelmed.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes, always.

[Brett]

I Was like, you're so right.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Always. Joan River's biopic. She'll point to the page of nothing and say, this is my worst nightmare.

[Brett]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So you got to just be grateful.

[Brett]

Yeah. And power through.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, should we say our favorite Tucker song in honor of the third episode?

[Brett]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What's yours?

[Brett]

I think forever and More Mine, Sally. Oh, well, of course, because you were the first Sally ever. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And, like, never forget it.

[Brett]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So my. My favorite is Sally, just because of what it means to me.

[Brett]

I love you so much.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love you more. Enjoy the episode.

[Jake Shane]

Hey, guys. Welcome back to Therapists, the new season, and now exclusively on Netflix. And I'm. We're. I'm here with Jake, my friend now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I even want to hear it.

[Jake Shane]

We're friends now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Continue with your intro. I'm so sorry.

[Jake Shane]

The first time we did this, we were strangers, complete. We've gotten to know each other.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And your phone's buzzing a lot.

[Jake Shane]

Keep in contact.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

How is moving the phone from one side of the octopus to the other gonna stop it from buzzing?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know what to do. Do with it. I'm sorry. But I'm happy to be back. I know we. Our thing is maybe that we're. We sort of go at. Go at it with each other a lot.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, yeah. This Your new era about kindness.

[Jake Shane]

And so now I just think that maybe we could open this episode with kindness.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

And being sweet to one another.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

My hands are a little balmy.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yours are too bomby.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Balmy.

[Jake Shane]

Gross.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay,

[Jake Shane]

so I'd like to just start

[Tucker Pillsbury]

by his new album, Chuck. Timely. And the Hourglass is out August 7th. Please give it up for Tucker role model Pillsbury. Well, I have to do that.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. But like I was saying, I think that we could just start with kindness. I just want to start by saying I'm. I'm proud of you. You're a very hard worker. You've done so much more than make tick tocks impersonating things.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Thank you. Well, okay, so if we're opening this up with kindness, I am very proud of you. You've been singing all around the town, everywhere. And people know every word.

[Jake Shane]

Some of them. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Every word.

[Jake Shane]

I will say there's one other thing I want to just start off with. Remember when you called me when Niall Horn was on here?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Are you trying to, like, clear the air on the.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. Because I caught shit.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know you did.

[Jake Shane]

And people didn't take the joke, but understand this. I was in the studio, and I was working. Jake called Me. I didn't answer. He called me again. I didn't answer. And before I could even text him and be like, hey, I'll call you later, Niall Horn calls me for the first time ever. Yeah, he's never called me. And so obviously in my head, I go, oh, they're on the podcast. This would be funny if I pick up for him and not for Jake.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And it was funny.

[Jake Shane]

And it was funny.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Did people actually get angry about it?

[Jake Shane]

People were like, he's, like, the worst friend ever. Oh, this is, like, too far out of everything.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Out of everything.

[Jake Shane]

It's just.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Any new tattoos? What?

[Jake Shane]

No new tattoos. I heard you want to get it. Ear piercing. I remember you called me and asked if that would be a good idea.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't even remember that.

[Jake Shane]

Did you say you were doing a mass calling of, like, everyone, you know, to be like, is it weird if I get my ear pierced?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And what did you say?

[Jake Shane]

I think I talked you out of it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You don't think so?

[Jake Shane]

Because I just. You were talking about a single earring, and.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, like, one right here. I know, but don't you have one? But your ears are pierced?

[Jake Shane]

They used to be.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

When'd you get them out?

[Jake Shane]

You know what's funny is as soon I did a movie with Lena.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know you, huh?

[Jake Shane]

Way long time ago when the first time she ever called me about it and was like, I have this movie, blah, blah, blah. Talk to me about. Wasn't even, like, confirmed that I'd be in the movie. It was just the possibility. I was like. I got off the phone and I took my earrings out, and I was like, they need to. I want them to heal before I shoot a movie because I don't want to look like a douchebag in a movie with Natalie Portman.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Did they heal?

[Jake Shane]

Kind of. But I think you can still see the little dot.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, I can.

[Jake Shane]

Unfortunately.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't think it's unfortunately.

[Jake Shane]

I just. I thought maybe I just needed to grow up a little bit, and so Lena Dunham is the reason I did it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, wow.

[Jake Shane]

It's a cool, fun fact for a therapist.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I still hear your phone buzzing. Buzz, buzz, buzz.

[Jake Shane]

I can't do anything about it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You can't put your phone on do not disturb.

[Jake Shane]

You can just throw it out there. I'm sorry.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I like your ballet shoes.

[Jake Shane]

Thanks. My. They're my lemon pepper steppers. I was told.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What?

[Jake Shane]

They're my lemon pepper steppers.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What do you mean, lemon peppers? What's a lemon pepper?

[Jake Shane]

Someone on my touring team said you Got the Lemon Pepper Steppers.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Are you excited to go back on tour?

[Jake Shane]

I am excited to go back on tour. I'm very excited. We just did some festivals I saw in Europe, and it got me very excited, but it was fun. So, like, let's just sit with it for a second.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Because I'm just. I thought by now you'd be better. And I just saw it, and your eyes just searching for. And it's just. It hit me and I was like, oh, he's probably seasoned by now. He's like. He's probably got this down. But I just gotta sit with it for a sec because I don't think you do.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. What if we go back to our roots for a second?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And play the game?

[Jake Shane]

What game?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one.

[Mandy]

Game.

[Jake Shane]

Sure. I would love that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Three. Wait. Do you have your word?

[Jake Shane]

Mm.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one. Sneaker.

[Jake Shane]

Wood and sneaker.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one. Golden goose. Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three. I'm already there. You're not there.

[Jake Shane]

Three, two, one.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Sandal.

[Jake Shane]

Gardening and sandal.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one. Right.

[Jake Shane]

Soil.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Sohail and rake.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one. Flower.

[Jake Shane]

How long did it take us the other time?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, two hours. But then when we got it, it was amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Let's just start again really quick.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Oh, my wrist. Have you heard about my wrist?

[Jake Shane]

No. Let's go. Let's come back to this game, talk about the wrist.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Three, two, one.

[Jake Shane]

Come back to the game, talk about your wrist right now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Let's come back when we.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. I think I have De Quervan's tendonitis.

[Jake Shane]

You did tell me about that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And it hurts. Look.

[Jake Shane]

Is that why it's shaking?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

This tendon so inflamed?

[Jake Shane]

Oh, Jake.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know I've been run ragged.

[Jake Shane]

And how do you help it?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What?

[Jake Shane]

How do you help the wrist? What do you do?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, physical therapy. Okay. Steroid shot. Okay. I have a brace. I. I sit.

[Jake Shane]

I'm sorry.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you ever hurt a part of yourself?

[Jake Shane]

I have. I've broken a lot of bones.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What bones?

[Jake Shane]

My knee, my wrists, my arm.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I broke my wrist.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I broke it multiple times. And I have scars on my wrist from it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And then. When did you break your knee?

[Jake Shane]

Not what people want to hear right now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, so what do you think we want to hear?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, the Sally thing is just run dry.

[Mandy]

Huh.

[Jake Shane]

How do you feel about that? The Sally thing ending? You started the Sally thing. How does it feel that it's now ended?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, good, because every time you brought up a different Sally on stage, I Would be like, okay, yeah, right. I'd be like, okay. And then you didn't end it with me, which would have been sweet.

[Jake Shane]

And now neither of us are going to have anything to talk about in interviews.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you officially, like, killed it, like.

[Jake Shane]

I think it's important to know when to end a bit.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So who was your final Sally? Who was the last one?

[Jake Shane]

I didn't think about it at the time, but it was Robert Irwin and it was truly. I think, aside from Olivia, Rodrigo. It was the craziest response to Asali.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Watch it.

[Jake Shane]

No, I'm just saying the pride of his nation. Country, nation.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Was he from New Zealand? Australia.

[Jake Shane]

Australia, yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What do you. What do you.

[Jake Shane]

I'm on my pager.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

That's not a pager.

[Jake Shane]

It's not a pager.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is that for your diabetes?

[Jake Shane]

How is Nick Jonas? He's. Diabetes?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, we spoke about it, actually.

[Jake Shane]

We spoke about his diabetes and he remembered meeting me. Yeah, I didn't think he would.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, from Vegas. Yeah, I know. He said he's like.

[Jake Shane]

He was there, too. We talked about that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And you said you remember me, but I know you did it.

[Jake Shane]

I do. I remember exactly where you were on the plane.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

The back. No, I was in the back.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. Three, two, one.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Fork and book.

[Jake Shane]

Keep going. Let's just.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Do you want to. Okay. So you said you had questions about my candy.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I'm just curious. It's Creative Officer.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Chief Creative Officer.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, I see your name is on it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Jake. Shane. Sour Puss. It's amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You let me know when you want one.

[Jake Shane]

I will let you know. Let's go back because we talked about being nice.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes. Sorry. I feel like I'm being a little mean. Yeah, I feel like I'm being mean. Like I came into this thinking you were going to come for me.

[Jake Shane]

No, I wanted to try and be nice today because I feel like

[Mandy]

I want.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

When. They're just so good. They're just so good. I can't look at them and not eat them. What are we saying?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, make sure you eat it into the mic, too. Just ripped off his headphones. I can't even imagine what you just went through there. That kills me.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Let me get comfortable.

[Jake Shane]

That was tough. That was not a cleanser.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

How's the east side of Los Angeles?

[Jake Shane]

It's good. I have a house now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You have a house?

[Jake Shane]

I have a house.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So you do make money.

[Jake Shane]

It's. It's nothing like yours.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I've lived in the same house since you've known me.

[Jake Shane]

I've seen Yours.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I've lived in the same house since you've known me.

[Jake Shane]

I know, and it's always been impressive, but you lived here with a lot of people, and now you pretty much are about to live here alone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know. What are we gonna do?

[Jake Shane]

Which proves. I don't know. I don't. I don't know why you live out here. I'm not gonna dox you, but I don't know why you live where I live. Because you're such a social butterfly that I would think you'd want to be near.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What's your favorite memory with me since we last recorded?

[Jake Shane]

I enjoyed I remember you on my birthday last year.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So fun.

[Jake Shane]

Well, okay. I had a. I don't love celebrating my birthday. So I just had a dinner with what was about. It was going to be me and my four friends. I remember you called me and you're like, it's your birthday. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to dinner. And he was like, I'm coming. And then Jake showed up, and it was actually, like, really fun. And you got to meet, like, Kai, and it was fun.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I love Kai.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I love Kai.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You spend a lot of time with Kai.

[Jake Shane]

I do. That's my. That's my bestie.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you miss him right now?

[Jake Shane]

I do. I haven't seen him in, like, what, two days? I was in, like, five days. I miss him.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

That's how I feel about my best friends, too.

[Jake Shane]

They're in New York.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Mandy]

You.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know.

[Jake Shane]

I know. You know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, I got a place in New York.

[Jake Shane]

I found that out recently because anytime you'd FaceTime me when you were in New York, the background and stuff, it is what I imagine. Like, I just imagined you were staying with Tate McRae. That's yours. You can say it proudly.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's my apartment that I got after I did Broadway, period. Well, where's your Birkin?

[Jake Shane]

I was gonna bring it because we talked about. I wanted to sell it to you. I don't.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Can I be honest? I thought you were gonna, like, midway through that episode, be like, I have a surprise for you.

[Jake Shane]

Give it to you. Yeah, well, funny story. I was gonna do a music video that I'm not gonna do anymore, but I had a music video, and my dream is to have Sexyy Red in a music video. And I just. I love her. I think she's amazing. And what I was gonna do, my pitch was I was going to give her the Birkin to just be in the music video.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. You know, Neon gives Alabama Barker Birkins all the time.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

That doesn't come across your desk.

[Jake Shane]

Neon the streamer.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Thank you, seatgeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. It is so fitting that seatgeek is sponsoring tonight's episode because Tucker is going on tour himself soon. And you can get tickets on the SeatGeek app. You can use code therapist for 10% off. If you click the link in the description and download the app, it automatically adds the code therapist for 10% off. And SeatGeek is the best place to get tickets because it rates your ticket on a scale from 1 to 10, 1 being not the best, 10 being the best. So you know if you're getting a good deal. And not only is Tucker going on tour, but Ariana Grande is on tour. Gracie Abrams is going on tour. Ryan Beatty's going on tour. Oh, my God, I'm so excited for that. There are so many incredible people going on tour and in order to make all these incredible events, SeatGeek is the number one place to get tickets for them. You can also get tickets for the World Cup. You can get tickets for a comedy show. Any live event. You can get Tickets for on SeatGeek and you can use code therapist for 10% off your purchase. Thank you again, SeatGeek, for sponsoring tonight's episode. I don't know if you've heard, but I have a new workout series with the Aloe Wellness Club app called the Shake and Train with Jake Shane series. It is four 10 minute workout sessions. Two are strength training to our Pilates, and I have such an incredible time filming them in the south of France with Louis, Chandler and Bianca. It was seriously one of the most fun days of my entire life. And that whole trip in general was just incredible. But if you listen to this podcast, you know that I've had a really important relationship with working out over these past three years. And that's all thanks to the Alo Wellness Club, both in Los Angeles and New York, and all the trainers there. They've like, really helped shift my mindset on working out, which has been like, honestly, consistently working out has been a struggle for me throughout my entire life. I finally feel like I'm out of place because of the Alo Wellness Club and these trainers. I'm really proud of my progress that I've made. Also travel a lot. When I travel, it's hard for me to consistently go to the gym if I don't have a routine. And the Allo Wellness Club apply helps me have a routine. Because even if you don't like my series, which is so fine. There are 4,000 other classes that you can do from yoga, strength training, Pilates, mat barre, like, anything you need. The Aloe Wellness Club app has and helps you stay on a good workout schedule, even if you're just in your room or even if you only have 10 minutes. Like, the classes are only. Some of the classes are only 10 minutes. Classes. I do. They're four classes. They're 10 minutes each. You can do only one of them and still have a great workout. Also, the great thing is I wanted to make the series feel like my podcast meets me working out in a way. So I feel, I hope that they make you laugh as hard as I laughed while filming them and working out, because working out is also about having fun. Also, the best thing is it's free. You can just go to alawellnessclub.com Jake and download the app today to start working out with me. That's aloellnessclub.com/jake. Thank you again, Alo, for working with me. This has been such a dream. I hope this is only the beginning. I think what we feel. What I feel right now is like, okay, the first two were amazing and now it's like the third and it's like a lot has changed. And it's like, well, what now?

[Jake Shane]

Let's talk about that. Because I. There's a. Now I'm just gonna. The Internet's very predictable. I'm sure you know that as well. It's gonna be. This is gonna be the fall off episode of us too.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You think? I kind of had that feeling this morning. I woke up and I was like, are people. Is it gonna. Is this it?

[Jake Shane]

They're just. It's just predictable. They're gonna be like, oh, I liked it better when they were strangers and they were like flirting with each other and like. And it was like, yeah. And now they're gonna be like, now it's on Netflix, right? They hang out.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You think that Netflix has changed stuff.

[Jake Shane]

I'm excited to be on Netflix and I can say hi to.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Say hi to Netflix.

[Jake Shane]

My family.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You're on that. You're already on Netflix twice. You know that.

[Jake Shane]

I'm gonna be on there for reals Three times. I do miss you, though.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I never see you. I know, but we FaceTime.

[Jake Shane]

We're busy. You have to. It's.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I always face your boy. You're always on a flight. You like flying? I hate flying.

[Jake Shane]

No, I hate traveling. I really hate traveling. Can I say my new take that? I'M realizing is, like, I was just in Europe and it's beautiful. Especially, like the shows there are very fun. The crowds are, like, completely different. Yeah, there's no phones, which I don't care. You can have your phones out, but there's no phones.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I mean, God willing, or else Sally wouldn't be a thing.

[Jake Shane]

And they, like, dance with each other. It's like communal. It's, like, amazing. But I will say, as far as just, like, being out there and I'm just sitting in hotel rooms and I will say, I just. I weirdly Miss America and it. And then I get back here and you land in, like, an American airport. And I see the McDonald's and I see this shitty little food things, and it just, like, makes me happy. And I like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, you, like, are happy when you land back here?

[Jake Shane]

I think I like America. And it's such a weird thing to say, and I'll probably get in trouble for saying it, but I think I've just come to the realization that I. I like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, here's what I like about America more than Europe.

[Jake Shane]

Great. Hit me with it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

They have air conditioning here.

[Jake Shane]

Go down together. Let's talk about how much we love.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

They have air conditioning here that they. When you ask for a drink, they give you ice without even asking for the ice.

[Jake Shane]

I like that. I like that they put a lemon in the Coke thing for it automatically.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You still. You. You what? Diet Coke or Coke. I don't even know that about. Right.

[Jake Shane]

They do Coke Zero, though.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know, but that doesn't make a difference. Do you think that makes.

[Jake Shane]

It doesn't make a difference. I like that when you. I don't like when you postmates over there. You just don't. It's all unfamiliar.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't even try.

[Jake Shane]

You could be, like, ordering from the worst place on earth. There could be rats in the box. And you don't know because you just judge on pictures like, you ordering. Do you understand what I'm saying?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You're angry because you don't know about the reputation of a restaurant because you don't live there.

[Jake Shane]

I order off Postmates a lot when I'm overseas. And the problem is I don't know any of these restaurants. So, like, I could be ordering from a dinner from, like, a 711 and not knowing it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know, there's like, Yelp.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You've never Yelped?

[Jake Shane]

No, I have truly never been on one of those.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

A food review site.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So whose fault is that for not.

[Jake Shane]

It's Mine. I'm just saying, yes, I'm lazy, but I like the comfort of knowing. I like the car. I think I like America.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I got it.

[Jake Shane]

I got it saying it, but I

[Tucker Pillsbury]

think I do LA or New York.

[Jake Shane]

New York.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really? But you live here full time.

[Jake Shane]

If I'm in album mode, I'm working Monday through Friday for like month long lockouts. So it's as. I don't even. It doesn't matter that I live here. I'm not going outside, so it's fine. But then if I have too much downtime, then I need to leave and I go home. Or I go to Maine. I go to Maine or I go to New York.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, Maine.

[Jake Shane]

Maine. I'm gonna go next week.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Are you excited?

[Jake Shane]

I am.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You can get a lobster roll.

[Jake Shane]

It's my favorite place. I don't see food.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Did we cover that before?

[Jake Shane]

I'm sure I just don't do it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, you're not allergic? You just don't do it.

[Jake Shane]

I just don't do it. I've never had it and I just. It's one of those things.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You do eat meat.

[Jake Shane]

I eat meat. I've never had seafood and I just never want to have it. The idea. I just don't like what? I don't like the idea of it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Of seafood. Like, what about the idea of it? Do you not like?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know. With most of it's the smell. I also just like crustaceans. It's like to me, that's like an insect that you're cooking and then you're eating. Like, I just like. Lobsters are insects. They're bottom feeders. Fun fact. They used to feed prisoners lobsters long time ago and that. I'm just gonna throw it out there. Early 1900s maybe. But they used to feed prisoners lobster dinners because it was. They. It was like their bottom feeders and so they were like thought of as a shitty thing that you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But now lobster is the most expensive thing on the menu now.

[Jake Shane]

It's like someone like you eats it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You've been working out.

[Jake Shane]

You. Oh, my God. You have been working out.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, that's what I was going.

[Jake Shane]

That's what you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, that's what I was going for.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Except somebody online said I reverse body dysmorphia.

[Jake Shane]

No, you look healthy. It's not. It's what? It's not unhealthy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I look healthy.

[Jake Shane]

I'm saying you had a phase. You got very fit. Oh, and muscular.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

And it's not a scary muscular.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, thank you. It's not, like, clavicular.

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You.

[Jake Shane]

You look like you work out. I don't know how else to put it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Thank you.

[Jake Shane]

You still like Poppy, I see.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yep.

[Jake Shane]

Is that the pride one?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, it's the Love island one.

[Jake Shane]

Pride. Poppy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

How are you celebrating pride?

[Jake Shane]

Rolling out an album and then just being there for you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I need it.

[Jake Shane]

I know. And I'm here for you. You know, I'm going to the month. I'm here for you all month.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But

[Jake Shane]

I'm happy to do it. I called you gay in a interview recently.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I am gay, so.

[Jake Shane]

I know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Were you nervous?

[Jake Shane]

No. I was really funny. I screenshotted the thing of you being like. You called me gay. Something. Something. It really, like, made me laugh out loud.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It made my dad laugh, too. He called me about.

[Jake Shane]

Really did make me laugh.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know, Tucker and I do have. We do have a bit.

[Jake Shane]

What?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you know what I'm talking about? That we always do when we see each other. Come on, please.

[Jake Shane]

I'm thinking rip your face off. Of course.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Every time.

[Jake Shane]

Every time. We see each other once a year.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, now, I saw you at the Dior show.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yeah. We said it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

We said, I'm a fucking rip your face off. Are you a Marvel fan?

[Jake Shane]

No. Why?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I was watching it to ease my anxiety last night.

[Jake Shane]

What? Which movie that Marvel is?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

The Avengers. Infinity War into End Game.

[Jake Shane]

Got it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Doesn't do it for you.

[Jake Shane]

Can't relate to it or nothing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

That you. A superhero. You can't relate to them?

[Jake Shane]

No, I can't relate to it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You can't. I feel like their whole thing, though, is about, like.

[Jake Shane]

What's your favorite part of it?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

My favorite part of Marvel, I like, he's over there.

[Jake Shane]

Go get him. That line. I love it when he says that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Who says? Who says that?

[Jake Shane]

The Hulk. Remember, the Hulk is like, he's over there. Go get him.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Are you, like, with me? In what movie does he say that?

[Jake Shane]

That's what I'm saying. It's just a movie.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What's my favorite part is Anything with Wanda.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love Wanda.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

She's the most powerful being in the universe.

[Jake Shane]

I watched this documentary recently called Streetwise. And it's unbelievable. And I think you should watch. Gets really sad, but it's about the homeless. It's like homeless teens, young teens in Seattle in the 80s. And it, like, follows them around. And it's like a documentary, but it feels like a movie because there's, like, arcs and there's like, some of them meet each other and, like, fall in Love. And there's, like. It's amazing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is it a docu series or a movie?

[Jake Shane]

Documentary? Okay, one.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yep. You watch a lot of documentaries?

[Jake Shane]

No. Nope. No, I liked that one. Just wanted to. In my head, I was like, make sure you do a movie wreck.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

In the podcast. Make sure you clear up the now horn thing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. You were stressed about that. I could feel it. You never even texted me about it,

[Jake Shane]

though, and asked Jake how he feels about Sally ending.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I was sad.

[Jake Shane]

I think you know when to end a bit, too, though.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I do.

[Jake Shane]

You stop doing your impressions for a period, and then, like, you'll bring them back here and there.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Just to remind people of why I'm here.

[Jake Shane]

Where you came from. Yeah, just to remind people I respect them.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You watching any TV right now?

[Mandy]

Right.

[Jake Shane]

What am I watching? No, I'm not.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You watching any movies right now?

[Jake Shane]

I just watch Back Rooms.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, I watch that too. You know the guy who's making my show? His wife produced it.

[Jake Shane]

Very cool.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Not that you give a.

[Jake Shane]

Can I make, like, a small cameo?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker, I would be honored.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Just thought you'd be too busy for me now.

[Jake Shane]

I think it'd be fun.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You want to make a small cameo in episode one?

[Jake Shane]

Maybe I could be, like, a janitor or something. And I go. And you. You're kind of, like, walking out of the school, and I'm like, hey, kid. And you turn around, I'm like, happy Pride. And then, like, a song plays, and it's like a beautiful moment, and you're like, what song?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What. What song do you want to play? Of yours?

[Jake Shane]

Of mine? I don't know. I'm just saying, like, a song plays after I say happy pride. Like, maybe it's. What would be a pride. Friendly song, like, Born this way.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hey, kid. Happy Pride. And then Born this Way starts playing.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool. I think it'd get a lot of. Yeah. Do you. How's your love life?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Horrible.

[Jake Shane]

What's going on? Talk to me about it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Well, I mean, I guess if we're just gonna. I was seeing this guy. We went on one date, and then he was like, never mind. And then I listened to thank you, Next all the way through until the end of my car ride back from Boston with Louise. And Louise on a train.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Boston. And I'm telling you, baby, this the part where I run. It's the part where they run. That part I missed.

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What's next?

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yeah. We did American Idol one time on here.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you want me to sing for You?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, Just bring back old bits we need.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But I don't even understand. Like, he's nervous, too. It's not just me.

[Jake Shane]

I'm not nervous. I'm just like, is this our.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is this our final bow?

[Jake Shane]

This is our final bow.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, you think people are going to be. I like Tucker. I've been feeling that way lately, but I just.

[Jake Shane]

I do. I get annoyed when a mass army on Twitter all of a sudden, like, pretends to care about something.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you experienced that ever?

[Jake Shane]

I don't think so, but I think this is the album where. I'm sure. I'm sure it's like, the point. So you think it's over post Sally. I think people are gonna be like, let's take him down.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I want to be in a music video. I keep thinking you're going to ask me and you never do.

[Jake Shane]

It's my gayar. I got to think about that.

[Mandy]

I don't.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know if we have.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Would love it.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. I don't know if we have a role for you. I think it's fine.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I hear that a lot.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, we could. That's

[Tucker Pillsbury]

so good.

[Jake Shane]

I know, I know, I know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I dance.

[Jake Shane]

I know. Oh, yeah. Show us. Because you've been. You told me you've been working on your dance moves.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I never told you that.

[Jake Shane]

And I was like, I would love to see some of those that you've been working on.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, I've never told you that.

[Jake Shane]

Well, because you're saying that you've, like, the Pilates and stuff has helped you with dance, and so I'd like to see some of it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really? This is what we're gonna do. You're gonna make me get up and dance for you.

[Jake Shane]

You said you've been working on it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, well, sing a song then. Well, not yet. What song do you want to sing? You have to tell me so I can prep my dance moves.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe I sing something for Pride month.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. What are you gonna sing?

[Jake Shane]

It's my. It's original. Here we go. Stand up. Whoa, whoa. It's okay to be gay. Whoa, whoa. Oh. It's okay to.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Can we just go back to the singing bit where I sing for you? Like, I don't like the dancing.

[Jake Shane]

That was the funniest thing I've seen you do, though.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

Dance was, like, very cute. Dude, can we just do it one more time?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I thought.

[Jake Shane]

Whoa, whoa.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Keep singing. I'm comfortable.

[Jake Shane]

I wish I could get a camera to show your eyes. When you do it, you look at me. You have, like, Singing Whoa, whoa It's okay to be gay Whoa, whoa it's okay to be gay Whoa, whoa it's okay to be gay Whoa, whoa Your. Your eyes. I've never seen your eyes light up the way they did.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love to dance.

[Jake Shane]

So maybe you. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I love you.

[Jake Shane]

I love you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What are you therapist about today? I'm constipated. And I know the people online are going to clip that and be like, what the is the show even about? Because they do that all the time.

[Jake Shane]

Predictable.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And it's just me. But I'm constipated and it really sucks. And that's what I'm pissed about. I woke up thinking about it. I'm thinking about it right now.

[Jake Shane]

My friend goes through that and.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Right. Because you don't poop.

[Jake Shane]

I. I don't.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know that's what I just said. Except when you. In the river in Maine.

[Jake Shane]

That was made up. I made that up to get clicks. But I personally have never.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Never. It's okay.

[Jake Shane]

I'm a singer. Huh? I play guitar and I sing and I write music and I go on romantic dates and stuff. I'm not. I wonder I have time to be so disgusting.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I guess. You know, I guess I have all the time in the world.

[Jake Shane]

I would never.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So what are you pissed about?

[Jake Shane]

Nothing today. I just. I'm on my. I don't like being on my phone. I hate my phone going off.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's just like.

[Jake Shane]

I know we've talked a lot and you're. We talk a lot about how I don't have anxiety. The only thing that, like, really gets my heart rate up is my phone,

[Tucker Pillsbury]

which I think you're a tad more anxious.

[Jake Shane]

I'm not. I'm just. I get overwhelmed very easily.

[Mandy]

So.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What do you do when you get overwhelmed?

[Jake Shane]

Well, now I have a new. My new hobby. And now I fish, which you FaceTime me. One night when I was fishing and

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I said I wanted to fish with you.

[Jake Shane]

I know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I said, how funny would that be if we went fishing for episode three? I just said, we're back here.

[Jake Shane]

It's. That is. That is amazing fishing. It's the best. It's complete. It's quiet, dead quiet. And you're by yourself and you have to be focused and you don't think of anything else. My mind all of a sudden kind of goes blank. And I love that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you listen to music while you fish?

[Jake Shane]

No, I just said it's dead quiet. You hear the birds. You're outside the river.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Does no one listen to music While they fish.

[Jake Shane]

I'm sure the fish does, but I'm just saying that would defeat the purpose for me.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you ever raw dogged a flight?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know if we talked about this, but I've fainted on flights many times.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Cuz you're diabetic?

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh.

[Jake Shane]

It's connected though. I. I used to smoke weed a lot.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I still do. I'm back on the wagon.

[Jake Shane]

It's all right. You look amazing. It's okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

But I used to smoke weed a lot and then I kind of stopped smoking and I just was doing edibles and I would fly and I would take edibles and sometimes I'd be okay. And then sometimes I would. I would have the most insane panic attack where my music, my heart rate would start going. I would start. My whole body would break out into a sweat, like a crazy cold sweat.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I hate a cold sweat.

[Jake Shane]

And then the music I'm listening to would like start to distort into like dark, like demonic, like scary horror sounds. And then, and then I would get in my head and be like, oh my God, I'm about to have a seizure. I think my blood sugar is low because it's like a similar feeling.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is that what happens when your blood sugar gets too low?

[Jake Shane]

You have seizures, start like shaking and you have. And you get like a cold sweat sometimes and like you feel. It's to me, feeling like too high felt similar to having like a really low blood sugar.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, how interesting.

[Jake Shane]

I would get a panic attack and I'd pass out on the plane. And then I'd wake up and the flight attendant would be like, are you okay? Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And you'd be like, oh my God.

[Jake Shane]

But how embarrassing would that be? Now imagine why. Because you're famous, getting recognized and you're like. You faint running to the bathroom. Oh my God.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You fainted on your way to the bathroom.

[Jake Shane]

It happened multiple times.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And now someone would be like, I saw a role model faint on a plane.

[Jake Shane]

Oh my God. I know. Be good for the album.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I was about to say, well, congrats. You just debuted on Billboard.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I know. It's all right. Jakey Hungies.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I am hungry. No. Okay. I'm not hungry. It's because I ate too much. You want to phone a friend?

[Jake Shane]

Do you still people. Do you still do the thing where people you. Was it people called you or left Voice?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, I would, I would call people. I haven't done it in a while.

[Jake Shane]

So you don't do it no more.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you remember the jalowin girls used

[Jake Shane]

to eat up time. We remember. You brought up an idea a long time ago of us doing a. Like a travel show.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes, I want to do that.

[Jake Shane]

I. I was think. Because I remember you first brought it up to me, and I was like, no.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

And now I'm thinking. And then I was thinking about the other day, and I. I do think it would be funny.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you ever feel like if all goes wrong, at least we have each other?

[Jake Shane]

It's okay to be gay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Whoa.

[Mandy]

Whoa.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you sample anything on the new album?

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

All originals.

[Jake Shane]

So the originals.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So who's the Hourglass?

[Jake Shane]

Who.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Who's the Hourglass?

[Jake Shane]

This is not a who, it's just a what. Time, Chuck.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Timely and time

[Jake Shane]

check. Timely in the time. Yeah, yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hopes. What are you listening to?

[Jake Shane]

Nothing. You like?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What do you think about my Strokes era?

[Jake Shane]

That surprised me that you knew every word to a Stroke song. Surprise. That was very cool.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, I. I felt cool.

[Jake Shane]

That was. Yeah. Cool. Points for that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my exes. I'm lacking in depth.

[Jake Shane]

Hey. Welcome.

[Mandy]

What?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Welcome.

[Jake Shane]

I'm. Do you want to just give us your name, where you're from, and a little bit about yourself?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm Jake. I'm from Kansas City. Kansas City, Missouri.

[Jake Shane]

Nice.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And I've always had dreams of being a singer.

[Jake Shane]

Nice. It says here that you actually walked here.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I did. My bike broke.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, it says you walked here to raise money for a foundation for Pride Month.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, I walked her to audition for American Idol. So are you ready for me to sing?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, give us whenever you're ready.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. You have a song suggestion for me?

[Jake Shane]

Oh, you're just supposed to bring one in, but whenever you're ready.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Take your time.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Please, please, please don't prove I'm right. Please, please, please don't bring me to tears when I just did my makeup. So not. Well, I. I'm sorry. I actually thought the first part sounded quite good.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, that was awesome. It's. It's Jake, right? Yeah, I. I think that's awesome. I think you gave up on that song pretty easy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Could you give us just a little bit more of something?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

And really feel that because you have this rasp in your voice that I really like, and I want.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

She's raspy today. You ever see that? Have you ever seen that face up? You ever see the JoJo Siwa thing where she's like. Where she's like, whoa. They're like, oh, she's raspy today. Have you seen the Jojo Siwa cruise?

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you seen the JoJo Siwa cruise? No, that hasn't come across your desk. She provides us so much entertainment. What do you think about Hantavirus?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know what happened to that or something.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I mean. Listen, let me tell you something. I am an expert in pandemics. I know how to. Because I used to play the pandemic play game on my phone. And I've seen Contagion five times.

[Jake Shane]

I just watched Contagion two nights ago.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

The best movie of all time.

[Jake Shane]

I know, but it really freaks me out because then I stop touching things.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

See, I feel like I'm, like, giving you stuff. No, I'm giving you Hantavirus. I'm singing, I'm dancing. I'm, like, doing a lot for you right now. What do you want to. Should we do the Tell me what's wrongs?

[Jake Shane]

Tell me what's wrong, Tucker.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Don't even fucking play dumb with me right now. I don't even. Please.

[Jake Shane]

That's what I was asking. Do they still do that?

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, let's do that. Let's do that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Whoa, Whoa.

[Jake Shane]

You are a handful.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's okay. I'm a kiss and teller. Like, sharing every detail with anyone in my life who. Listen, I know I probably need to stop or just slow down, but if it already. But it already caught back up to me. I saw this guy I hooked up with at the bar. I went over to his. Went over to him to say hi. And he was being super weird. I asked him what's up? And he told me that because I started yapping to everyone, it got back around to his girlfriend. Right now it's so messy. Because, like, we are also good friends. I just need prescriptions. No advice, please. I'm obsessed with her. She's like. I don't. I don't want any advice.

[Jake Shane]

I know. What does prescriptions mean?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hooker, please.

[Jake Shane]

Like, you, what she needs.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

But she doesn't go watch Marvel from start to finish. It takes up a lot of time. And I. I've done it. You got Captain America. You got Iron Man. He dies. You got. Who else? Spider Man, Ant Man, Wonder Woman. No, that's dc. Oh, okay. Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Jake Shane]

If you were in a Marvel movie, who.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Who would I be?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I'm trying to think.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'd be Rwanda's friends in WandaVision that are, like, in psychosis.

[Jake Shane]

Like housewives. Like a housewife?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No. Do you watch housewives?

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You haven't seen any housewives?

[Jake Shane]

No, I'm just. I was asking if her Friends are like, no.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

She like. You've never seen WandaVision?

[Jake Shane]

No.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, I can't spoil it. It's, like, literally one of the best shows I've made.

[Jake Shane]

For sure. For me Again.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, so basically, what happened, you're not gonna get it because you don't understand vision.

[Jake Shane]

All right, forget it. Forget. Forget. I was just trying to spark a conversation and say, hey, what would your superpower be?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, what would my. My superpower? My superpower would be telekinesis.

[Jake Shane]

I always wanted talking. Yep, yep, yep. Oh, I wanted to do too.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I wanted. I've always wanted hyper speed. I want to control stuff with my hands.

[Jake Shane]

Her.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, that's what I always want to do as a kid. I would always try this way, like, you know what I mean? I kill myself. I want telekinesis. Telekinesis.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Watch Marvel Help. My boyfriend and I are talking about getting engaged. I'm so happy. I love him so much. But we strongly disagree on one thing. The ring. He is from a small town and believes that they are a waste of money and wanting a nice, expensive ring is vain. Idk why. But having a nice ring has always been something I've dreamed of. For context, he works at a very good job, so it's not like affording it would be a problem. Am I being shallow and materialistic, or is a ring something worth splurging on? Team Ring.

[Jake Shane]

What are your thoughts on marriage? Do you want to get married?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

You do?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Mm. Well, I haven't had a boyfriend yet. Still, that's something that.

[Jake Shane]

I know you're struggling with relationships currently, but do you have dreams of getting married?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I want children. I want two babies.

[Jake Shane]

Do you want to be married?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't know, but I know I want babies.

[Mandy]

You know?

[Jake Shane]

You want babies.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Theodore Theo for sure, and Annabelle. Anna B. For short. Do you want babies?

[Jake Shane]

My dream has always been to have. To be a single father and to have a daughter and to raise a daughter by myself would be really fun. Her name's Winnie.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You want to. You want to be a single father?

[Jake Shane]

I want a daughter that's ideally mine. And then I. I thank whoever had it for me. Maybe I give them, like, a surrogate. Maybe a Venmo. Yeah. Okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Venmo surrogate.

[Jake Shane]

Shake their hand. Thank you. You can see her in a couple every once a year if you want. Maybe that'd be destructive for the kid, but it would. I just want to raise a child by myself because then you can kind of just like, mold them into your best friend. It's like your best friend and you. And it's like you. You know.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

I just think that'd be really fun.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Three, two, one, Wall. Book wall. Three, two, one, Bookstore. Three, two, one, Bestseller. Three, two, one, Crime. Three, two, one, criminal. Three, two, one, Murder.

[Jake Shane]

That's just.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I genuinely believe I am meant to be famous. I have no trained talents, no passion for any celebrity careers, and I hate the Internet. But I still have this weird feeling I was meant for something more. Is this just narcissism or a calling? A calling.

[Jake Shane]

So once again, I'm going to use this to.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Make it work. Do you like being famous more than.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Probably more than anything I've ever liked ever in my entire life.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's probably my favorite thing to ever happen to that.

[Jake Shane]

I feel that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

From you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you?

[Jake Shane]

I. What? There's. I think there's parts of it that I like, but I don't ever want to not be. Like, I don't want to not be able to do things because I'm famous. Like, I don't want to not be able to go places or do things. You have to find other things that

[Tucker Pillsbury]

bring you joy, my friends.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe you could get into fishing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't want to fish, friends.

[Jake Shane]

That's true.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I like to cook.

[Jake Shane]

That's good.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. She's giving me a look. I have cooked in the past.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have. Do you cook? Yeah. You cook? Like, meat and potatoes and rice.

[Jake Shane]

I'd like to. I want to see what you are like on dates. I'm so curious. Or.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's horrible.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe let's. Maybe we role play.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, that's fine.

[Jake Shane]

A date.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Let's do that. Ready?

[Jake Shane]

So.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

So are you.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe. I'm already at the restaurant. Okay. Let me sit up for it. Oh, hey.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hi. I'm so sorry I'm late.

[Jake Shane]

Hi, Tucker.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Hi. Hi. Sorry. I'm just a fucking mess. Jake. Nice to meet you.

[Jake Shane]

Nice to meet you. You spill my water when you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm like. Hi, Dover. Have you been here before?

[Jake Shane]

No, this is my first time. It's nice, though. They, like, made me, like, tape my camera on my phone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. They do that with people that aren't members.

[Jake Shane]

Are you. Oh, are you a member at the.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well.

[Jake Shane]

At this.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Yep.

[Jake Shane]

Nice. That's.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Did you get a drink? Are you drinking?

[Jake Shane]

I definitely need one. Like, nervous, actually.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. What do you. So what do you do?

[Jake Shane]

I'm in finance, so I just.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God. It's gonna go so above my head. But, like, explain it. Try to explain it to me.

[Jake Shane]

So people will bring me numbers, and I will pretty much sort through those and make sure that everything is adding up correctly. But it's boring. I, like, I feel stupid. I should probably not even talk about it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, continue. I think it's charming.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know. It makes good money and, like, I. I live off it, so it's fine.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you feel fulfilled?

[Jake Shane]

I. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

This is. Now you ask what I do.

[Jake Shane]

So what do you do? You're a member here. You must, like, make a million. You must make a million dollars.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I. I'm an artist.

[Jake Shane]

You're an artist? Oh, like painting?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, paint.

[Jake Shane]

How?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I do a lot of, like, modernist art.

[Jake Shane]

Expressionism.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I kind of just, like, black onto the canvas.

[Jake Shane]

That's.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It sells.

[Jake Shane]

So cool. I feel like everyone's, like, digital artists now, and so it's cool that you, like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I think digital art is definitely cool. I wouldn't rag on digital art.

[Jake Shane]

No, no, I wasn't. Sorry.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, it's okay. It's okay.

[Jake Shane]

I wish I could start over.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm like, we can start over.

[Jake Shane]

I feel like I'm saying this dumbest. No, not on the date. Dumbass. All right, I'm changing. Hey.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Sorry I'm so late.

[Jake Shane]

Are you Jake?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, I'm Jake. Nice. Nice to meet you. You heard? Soda water. Yeah, you know, do you drink?

[Mandy]

No.

[Jake Shane]

I do. I was just waiting for you. I didn't order yet, but do you drink?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Such a gentleman. Yeah, I do drink.

[Jake Shane]

What do you. What is your drink?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I mean, like, if I wasn't trying to impress you, I'd get a Red Bull vodka. But because we're on a date, I will get a dirty martini with vodka.

[Jake Shane]

Here comes the waiter right now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, hi.

[Jake Shane]

Hello. Hello.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What can I get you guys? You first.

[Jake Shane]

Shoot. Okay. I did not look at the drinks. Do you want to just go really quick?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Can I get an extra dirty martini with Grey Goose vodka, please?

[Mandy]

Of course.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And he'll do the same.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, that's fine. Coming right up.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Thank you. Do you drink vodka?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I do. I drink. I drink anything, really.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm not working finance. Yeah, I can tell. Yeah, I love it. I love. No, don't feel. I. I think it's interesting. My. My job is so, like, creative.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. What do you. What do you do? Sorry?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, I'm an artist.

[Jake Shane]

Like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, I. Well, not an artist. I sell art. I'm a gallerist.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, wow.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah, so I like, open galleries and I sell art. And, yeah, it's super fulfilling and interesting, and I love it. One day I. I tried to be an artist in my own right, and it didn't really work out. And I kind of just love being able to share other people's stories through art.

[Jake Shane]

That's really cool. I wouldn't have taken you for an artist, but then you do have, like, paint all over you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I know. I was just. I came from the studio.

[Jake Shane]

That's cool.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Where are the. Our drinks are taking forever.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Diabetes.

[Jake Shane]

No. Oh, it's a nicotine patch.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, Okay.

[Jake Shane]

I need it, like, straight to my blood.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. What's your favorite painting of all time?

[Jake Shane]

Favorite painting? Geez. I'm like a numbers guy, so I don't even. The Mona Lisa. I feel stupid.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Mona Lisa, too.

[Jake Shane]

Really?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Oh, that's 1, 2, 3.

[Jake Shane]

The Louis

[Tucker Pillsbury]

one. 1, 2, 3. Van Gogh.

[Jake Shane]

Let's continue with the day because we didn't really get. I want to, like, see.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, so ask me a question.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. So, like, well, also, our drinks never came. I thought maybe we were gonna get, like, poppies or something. I thought Props. Props team were gonna drink.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is here. Cheers.

[Jake Shane]

Can I have the papi?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Of course you can.

[Jake Shane]

Just so I can have something. Ooh. I've never tried this one. This is awesome. Cool.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, cheers.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yeah. Cheers.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Eyes. Or bad? Come on. No, I'm really ocd. Come on. Eyes.

[Jake Shane]

I'm just messing around. I'm, like, a funny guy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

I'm so silly on dates.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, you even cheers me.

[Jake Shane]

No, but I was gonna ask, like, are you. Do you, like, go on dates a lot? I feel like I haven't been.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I try to.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I kind of have a busy schedule, so it's like, I'm here, and then I'm there, and then I'm here, and then I'm there, and then I'm here, and then I'm there, and now I'm here.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What about you?

[Jake Shane]

I really, like, liked talking to you for the past, like, week, and I thought we, like, really connected on, like, a cool level. Sorry. I'm nervous and. It's cool. I just wanted to say, like, I'm really happy. Like, we finally got to get drinks. I know you're busy and stuff.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

We just sat down.

[Jake Shane]

No, no, I'm not. We're not.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, you're just thinking, oh, I'm. I'm. Yeah, I thought you were trying to and. No, it's okay.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know. I feel stupid now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Question. Shall we? So, what do you think of our date?

[Jake Shane]

That's good. I wanted to, like, really kind of

[Tucker Pillsbury]

see so we can continue on the date. I'm just, like, you're thanking me for my presence. You're not asking me anything about myself.

[Jake Shane]

I wanted to see how you would react to someone being honest to you and being like, hey, thank you for making time for this. Like, I really enjoyed talking to you, and I'm glad we're here. I'd love to go on a second date with you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You would?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. But I just wanted to say I don't really, like, I'm not just trying to hook up. Like, oh, I probably wouldn't want to do that until maybe, like, our fourth date. Are you okay with that?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Let's get to know each other before we hook up.

[Jake Shane]

Be real.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What?

[Jake Shane]

Be real.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What do you mean?

[Jake Shane]

What would you do if I said

[Tucker Pillsbury]

that I'd be like, really? Am I that ugly that they don't want to kiss me until the fourth date? They're just making up at this point. Okay, that's what I would think. I'd be like, oh, my God, he didn't even want to kiss me.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe you should.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm so open.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe you should be more open on your dates. And maybe that's not why you have. That's why you haven't found love yet. Okay, Tucker, Be more open to that. Maybe someone just wants to get to know you before they start.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Start what? You missed it. It was really funny. You had to be there. You had to see it. You'll see it in the cut. Do you want to play pretended? In other situations, we play improv.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yeah. Let's do some improv games.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay. Shout out a place, everyone. So.

[Jake Shane]

So I'll have the sushi.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I just took the last one. Why did I say that? I'm so sorry. You could have it if you want.

[Jake Shane]

It's just I'm allergic to literally everything else. I can only have rice and then, like, uncooked seafood. So I just. It's fine, though. Like, I. It's fine.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Maybe the improv needs to just come to us naturally. Maybe the improv is the friends we made along the way. I was seeing Obsession, and the theater was packed. I swear to God, no one would shut the up. I didn't want to make a scene, so I left and told a manager.

[Jake Shane]

That's why I don't go to movies. I'm. I'm team her.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

She then came into the theater and stopped the movie, but this bitch walked in, like, right after me, and obviously everyone's already Complained and they booed me. What the is wrong with everyone? Why were you still in the theater?

[Jake Shane]

I know. Just leave.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Just leave.

[Jake Shane]

I. I was with her until she went back to the theater. But I. I don't understand or whatever. I watch movies on my phone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, what.

[Jake Shane]

I watch every movie on my phone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You don't go to, like, a movie theater ever?

[Jake Shane]

No, I don't have a. I don't have a TV still. I don't have a tv and I have an iPad that's been in a box for a year and a half, so I just watch all my movies.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, you would be very comfortable, but

[Jake Shane]

let me tell you. Have you ever watched Interstellar on your iPhone? Because it's amazing. No sound is perfect.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, well, I. Do you know that everyone had a bit of a scare because they thought. I pick. Was closing it. Just rebranded the cinemas.

[Jake Shane]

Ooh, I love.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I pick.

[Jake Shane]

I don't know what. I don't know it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know what an IPIC is?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's a luxury movie theater.

[Jake Shane]

Me personally, I'll be watching that on my phone with the rest of us.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I mean, I feel like people have televisions.

[Jake Shane]

I mean, I'm a people's person, so I'm just gonna check it out on my phone. I'm gonna watch a people's person too, on my phone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Have you ever seen Dune 1?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I saw Dune 1. I love doing two.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I heard Dune 2 is amazing.

[Jake Shane]

It's great. I like it when he gets mean. He's gonna be really bad on the third one.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Timmy.

[Jake Shane]

He's gonna be a bad guy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really? Oh, I'm interested. He's the bad guy.

[Jake Shane]

Shaves his head.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What?

[Jake Shane]

Shaved his head.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

He did. For the role.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

He works so much. How did you like being on a movie set?

[Jake Shane]

I was very, very nervous on my first day. Like, haven't been that nervous in years. And then after the first day, it was like.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker Pillsbury, call time 6:30am My bag. Your bad.

[Jake Shane]

Walk in.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Hair and makeup.

[Jake Shane]

Hey. Hey.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Just me again. Shooting movie.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You go through your. Your sides.

[Jake Shane]

I know, but like, I was. It was like. Then at that point, I was like, I know him. But the first day was, like, so scary. And then it was really fun.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

One last time I need to be the one who takes you home One more time I promise I. After that I'll let you go baby I don't care if you got her in your heart All I really care is you wake up in my arms One more time Oops I need to be the one that live tonight. Like, my hole is gonna split open.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, it's literally going to evaporate.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my word.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Like, you know, it's true, too. I'm so excited. I'm, like, sweating for it.

[Jake Shane]

Jake.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God. The next one.

[Jake Shane]

You know how long it took me to understand what Nick's in five meant?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you want me to explain it to you?

[Jake Shane]

No, I know now. So what does it ask people? They're in game five.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, there's. It's best of seven. So if the Knicks won. So that's why people were like Nixon four. Because if they won the first four, they won four out of the seven games and they win the championships. But because they lost the third, then it became Nixon 5. No, but then people were saying Nixon 6, so. But it became Nixon 5 once they won the fourth game that I was at.

[Jake Shane]

It's like, I can't. I didn't know what it meant for a long time. And it was just. It was also so weird to see so many people all of a sudden, like, you caring about sports. I'm from New York all of a sudden. Where are you from in New York?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Washington Heights.

[Jake Shane]

I think that's valid. I think that's hometown pride. But I just. It was, like, weird. It was just so weird all of a sudden, everyone cared about. Basketball is so strange to me because it's summer. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

And, like, it's community.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, Yeah. I just.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God. Let's all cheer and dance. It's like we're at a concert, but they're playing sports.

[Jake Shane]

No, dancing. There's dancing. I'd probably be into it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. No, there is at the end of

[Jake Shane]

Nixon 5 on my story, like, everyone.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You dead.

[Jake Shane]

No, I said I would if there was dancing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Is that like, my Panera commercial ran? During the next commercial, I screamed.

[Jake Shane]

I know I've told you I've heard good things, but I haven't seen it,

[Tucker Pillsbury]

have ever had friendlies.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. I used to go there for my birthday as a kid. That's where I wanted to go every single time.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You know, that's one of my favorite restaurants in the entire world.

[Jake Shane]

Where are they now?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

They're gone.

[Jake Shane]

All of them?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, there's some left. We should go to one.

[Jake Shane]

I used to love it. They have the crazy ice cream sundaes.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

With the face.

[Jake Shane]

Face. Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

The milk. The mint chocolate one.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Please call me with Tucker. I have nothing to look forward in life besides this.

[Jake Shane]

That's it.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, Call. Oh, we got a phone number. Why don't I talk?

[Brett]

Hello?

[Jake Shane]

Hey, this is Jake, Shane's assistant. Oh, and we saw. We saw that you submitted to call when Tucker was on the show.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So we just wanted to give you a ring because we have Tucker on the show now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Shut the up.

[Mandy]

Are you lying?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. Do you want to talk to him?

[Mandy]

Are you him?

[Jake Shane]

I'm not lying. Yeah, I am. Yeah, I'm him.

[Mandy]

Oh, my God. Hi.

[Jake Shane]

Hi.

[Mandy]

Is this fake or Is this real?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

FaceTime her face. It's.

[Jake Shane]

Hi. I didn't know I was supposed to FaceTime you. Do I do that?

[Mandy]

Oh, you can if you want, but

[Jake Shane]

I mean, I'm uncomfortable. I don't know.

[Mandy]

That's okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy]

Wait, this is crazy. I. I feel like I submitted that years ago.

[Jake Shane]

So you keep them on hand?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I don't know. Nolan pulled them out.

[Mandy]

Hi, Jake's here. Oh, my God, Is that Jake?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yes.

[Mandy]

Hi.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God, I'm going to cry.

[Mandy]

I mean, you two talk about.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What's your name?

[Mandy]

My name is Mandy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Mandy, it's so nice to meet you.

[Mandy]

So nice to meet you. Oh, my God, I'm gonna cry. This is crazy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm so happy. You're so happy. I'm so happy.

[Mandy]

Oh, my God. This is. You're the. Oh, my God. I don't even know what to say.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, how's your day going?

[Mandy]

It's good. I literally was just telling my friend that I was manifesting going to meet you in New York City.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God. Wait, are you from New York?

[Mandy]

No, I'm from Minnesota, but like, I. I'm going to New York to see Harry Styles in September. So I was like, I'm gonna manifest to see Jake. Well, now I feel really bad because Tucker called.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

He's upset.

[Mandy]

But like, this is crazy, though. I mean, like, how is his Bonner set? Was that amazing?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God. See, she's locked in. Tucker.

[Jake Shane]

I don't even want to talk to her now.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker, stop.

[Mandy]

Okay? He's being a diva, but that's okay.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, we've had nothing to talk about. This entire time has been dead silent.

[Mandy]

Oh, my God. Really? Oh, my God, that's so funny. Wait, this is so crazy. This, like, just made my entire life. Oh, my God. This is insane. I wasn't gonna answer because I thought it was spam, because everything's spam nowadays.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Everything is spam nowadays.

[Mandy]

Like, literally. It's insane.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's insane. Probably spam. You get a call, probably did this say probably spam. No, it didn't, but, like, right, because it's Nolan.

[Mandy]

Maybe it's like, I thought it was, like, my insurance agent calling to give me a quote, but, like, it wasn't, so this is even better.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker, tell her.

[Mandy]

You go ahead. Sorry.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, you go ahead. What were you saying?

[Mandy]

No, nothing. I mean, like, I'm just in shock. I'm in disbelief.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Do you want FaceTime?

[Mandy]

I mean, like, I look like a bald eagle, but sure. Hi, Tucker.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

It's so nice to meet you.

[Mandy]

Even though you don't look that happy.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Tucker, perk up a bit. Seriously.

[Jake Shane]

Why? Why did you react to him the way you did and not. And not me?

[Mandy]

Okay, I was gonna say because it's Jake Shane, but, like, also, it's Tucker. But.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Wait, you want. Can I send you some caches?

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Wait, yeah, I'll send you some caches. That's my girl.

[Mandy]

I'm excited. If ever you want to come back to Mini, I will.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love you, Mandy. I love you.

[Mandy]

It's okay if I screenshot? Is that fine?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Yeah. Say smile, Tucker.

[Mandy]

Okay. Okay. Smile. Okay. Thank you so much for calling. This was insane.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Oh, my God, I'm so happy. Maybe we'll run into each other when you go see Harry Styles in New York.

[Mandy]

Yes, that'd be amazing.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

You want to give a little?

[Mandy]

Thank you so much. Oh, my God.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

This is crazy. Love you.

[Mandy]

Love you. Bye.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love her. Oh, my God. I got so excited, I dropped my cards. God, I missed that. God, I should start calling people more.

[Jake Shane]

How much time have we done?

[Tucker Pillsbury]

What are you thinking about? 3, 2, 1, FaceTime. 3, 2, 1, Kindle. 3, 2, 1, iPad.

[Jake Shane]

Thank you guys so much. My album comes out August 7th. Chuck timely in the hourglass. And I'm going on tour and hitting the road right after. I'll see you there.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Wait, what did we learn today?

[Jake Shane]

I think people will use my name to get to you.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I mean, Mandy came to my Minneapolis show.

[Jake Shane]

I think it's Shiloh. She didn't. She's never even been to my show.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

No, she said. She said, how was your Bonnaroo show?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, she didn't see it. She wasn't there. She was asking how it was.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, not everybody can get to Bonnaroo. If I could get to Bonnaroo, I'd go to Bon.

[Jake Shane]

Everyone can get to a Jake Shane show. But she could.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Well, because I stop in every city.

[Jake Shane]

So do I.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, when I'm on tour.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Okay, I'm sure you do.

[Jake Shane]

I'm just saying, don't trust everyone. I don't trust her.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Don't trust anyone.

[Jake Shane]

That's what I learned.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

My girl.

[Jake Shane]

And you. And you got way. And you were way too into that too, that.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I was excited.

[Jake Shane]

I know, but I saw you. You got hard from like, what?

[Mandy]

What?

[Jake Shane]

The excitement, like, did something to your.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I'm gay. Half of this episode was about how I'm gay.

[Jake Shane]

Full body chills. You had like an adrenaline rush. And you're face was. I've never seen someone put their mouth so close to a camera. That poor girl saw your tonsils. I love you, Jake.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

I love you.

[Jake Shane]

Give me a big hug and thank you so much.

[Tucker Pillsbury]

Wait, you have to say bye.

[Jake Shane]

Bye.