Session 66: Lucy Dacus - Therapuss with Jake Shane

Transcript

Jake Shane (0:09)

Hi. Welcome back to Therapists. This week we have on Lucy Dacus. She just released her new album, Forever's a Feeling. It's amazing. She's amazing. I was so honored and happy to have her here, but aside from that, we had a very exciting week. Last week I announced my guest spot in Hacks, which is my favorite show. I'm so. It was literally, like, filming with them was like, the best. Best days of, like, the best day, few days of my life. Like, it was like, seriously the most rewarding. Like, I felt so, like, proud of myself and, like, I don't know, like, grateful. It was just amazing. I'm so excited for you guys to see it. Like, it was. It's just the best. We're going to the premiere tonight. And I also met Ariana Grande, which was amazing. Had to process it for a few days because, like, I walked in and I didn't think she was going to be there. Like, I knew she was going to be at the event, but I didn't think she was going to be there that early on. And I, like, looked to my right and she was there. And, like, my heart, like, fell into my stomach and I was like, you know what I mean? And I, like, didn't really know how to. She's, like, actually the nicest person ever. I actually can't believe. I still really can't believe that I met her. But her. Her whole team, Courtney, like, they were so welcoming and so lovely. Like, I. It was the most incredible night. Like, being able to tell someone who means so much to you, like, how much they mean to you is, like, the best feeling in the entire world. I'm binge watching the leftovers right now. It's amazing. Carrie Coons in it. I started watching it because of White Lotus and someone was like, Carrie Coons also in the Leftovers. And also Justin Thoreau is, like, the hottest person I've ever seen in my entire life. I'm on season two as of right now. Season two, Episode four Outstanding, you guys. It's my new addiction. It's my new addiction. You have to watch it. I'm trying to think of anything else that I've been up to. I've been listening to a lot of Bon Iver. You love, huh? Don't you?

Lucy Dacus (1:58)

Love?

Jake Shane (1:58)

Yeah. I just got. I mean, I've. I. I've listened to them in passing, but I just really got into them.

Lucy Dacus (2:04)

Which.

Jake Shane (2:04)

What's your favorite album? Right now I'm on Bon Iver. Bon Iver. That's really good. 4 Emma Forever Agos. Well, yeah, but that. That one I had listened to prior, but Bonnie Vere, Bonnie Bear, I actually am way into. And I like their new stuff. I like their new stuff a lot. I think it's great. I'm excited for that album. I think it comes out this week. April 11th. Yeah. Yeah, I'm super excited. I think I go. I think I'm going to. Oh, my God. I think. I know. I'm leaving for Coachella tomorrow night. Just get me to the desert. I just gotta go. I gotta go. I gotta go now. I've been thinking about it. I have no. I have one T shirt and that's it. I have one T shirt for it and that's the only thing I bought. So let's just hope for the best here. I'm excited to go and be with everyone and just dance and see Charlie XCX and Lady Gaga. But yes, Lucy Dacus is on tonight's episode and she is amazing. Probably. She probably got me the most calm I've ever been in this room, which was awesome. But I'm such a fan of her and such a fan of boy genius that it was so cool to have her here. I don't know if you guys remember, but like one time I was behind boy genius on a red carpet and I looked so gagged. If somebody can find that photo, let me know. It's really funny. Stream Forever is a feeling out now. It's incredible. My favorite song is big deal and I also love angles, which I know is a single and a very basic answer, but I really do love angles. Like I hyper fixated on that song for a few days. You can see if I'm coming to a city near you by going to passthatpost.com, clicking Live with Jake Shane and checking out the dates. And to submit a tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpost.com click tell me what's wrong and tell me what's wrong. Submit a name and number if you're feeling fancy and enjoy tonight's episode. Love you, pussies. Hi, pussies. Welcome back to therapists. Today we have the one, the only, lucy dacus. Her fourth studio album is out March 28th. It's called Forever is a feeling and it is so incredible. I loose welcome Lucy Dinkus.

Summary

Therapuss with Jake Shane – Session 66: Lucy Dacus

Release Date: April 10, 2025

Introduction

In this engaging episode of Therapuss with Jake Shane, the renowned singer-songwriter Lucy Dacus joins host Jake Shane for an intimate and introspective conversation. The episode delves deep into Lucy's creative process, her latest album, touring experiences, personal philosophies, and offers heartfelt advice on listeners' dilemmas.

1. Celebrating "Forever's a Feeling"

Lucy Dacus' fourth studio album, Forever's a Feeling, takes center stage in the discussion. Released on March 28th, the album has been lauded for its rich exploration of love and nostalgia.

Themes and Inspiration: The album intertwines themes of love with reminiscing about past relationships. Lucy explains, “[04:44] 'Big Deal' and 'Angles' are standout tracks, each encapsulating different facets of love and memory."
Collaboration with Hozier: A highlight is the collaboration on the song "Bullseye". Jake praises, “[35:07] Bullseye is my favorite because your voices blend so beautifully with Hozier’s.”
Creative Process: Lucy shares insights into her songwriting, noting, “[17:26]’Lyrics over melody’ is my mantra. The lyrics have to remain paramount, ensuring the story shines through the music.”

2. Touring and Performances

Touring is a significant part of Lucy's life, and she discusses the highs and lows with Jake.

Favorite Performances: Reflecting on past gigs, Lucy fondly recalls performing with boygenius at Gunnersbury Park in London, “[06:44] …we had fireworks, and it was like a dream come true.”
Emotional Challenges: Touring isn't without its challenges. Lucy shares, “[21:34] Some nights are tough, and I need to let it out by weeping in a corner. It’s a part of the process.”

3. Songwriting and Personal Insights

The duo delves into the intricacies of songwriting and personal growth.

Lyricism: Lucy emphasizes the importance of lyrics, stating, “[17:26] Lyrics have to be king at all moments. They drive the song’s meaning and emotional resonance.”
Personal Growth: Discussing grief and gratitude, Lucy reflects, “[30:39] Losing loved ones early on made me super aware of temporality and the importance of gratitude.”

4. Music Preferences and Inspirations

Both Jake and Lucy share their favorite artists and albums, revealing their diverse musical tastes.

Lucy’s Favorites: “[45:30] My most listened-to record is I Need to Start a Garden by Haley Hendricks. Her voice is one of the most beautiful I’ve ever heard.”
Jake’s Favorites: Jake expresses his admiration for artists like Ryan Beatty and Nina Simone, highlighting their impactful songwriting and vocal prowess.

5. Astrology and Personality

A brief segment on astrology sheds light on their personalities.

Signs and Traits: Lucy identifies as a Gemini Moon, while Jake shares, “[12:07] I’m a Gemini Moon and Gemini Rising. I’m so talkative, but sometimes my social battery just burns out.”

6. Advice Segment: "Tell Me What's Wrong"

The heart of the episode features Lucy and Jake addressing listeners' personal issues with empathy and practical advice.

Handling a Difficult Roommate: Jake shares his predicament: “[67:12] Me and my roommate keep getting in fights because I like to sleep freezing and she keeps the thermostat at 75.” Lucy suggests, “[67:26] Maybe switch off nights or use personal heaters and fans to compromise.”
Navigating Situationships: Addressing Jake’s question, “[61:00] I’ve been in a situationship for two years and can’t seem to get out of it,” Lucy advises, “[62:56] Embrace self-respect and self-awareness. If it’s not meeting your needs, it might be time to move on.”
Dealing with Ghosting: Reflecting on Jake’s experience with ghosting, Lucy provides insightful perspectives, “[66:57] Ghosting can sometimes reveal more about the other person’s inability to commit than about you.”

7. Renewable Energy Debate

In an unexpected twist, Lucy passionately discusses her stance on renewable energy.

Skepticism on Renewables: “[52:18] I think renewable energy is a hoax. Solar panels last only 25 years and necessitate lithium mining, which is terrible for the environment.”
Environmental Concerns: She elaborates, “[53:33] Hydroelectric power disrupts natural habitats, and wind turbines can harm wildlife and make land unusable for farming.”
Call for Real Solutions: Lucy urges for genuine environmental solutions beyond current renewable methods, expressing frustration with superficial efforts like recycling.

8. Personal Stories and Reflections

The conversation is peppered with personal anecdotes that humanize both hosts.

Meeting Ariana Grande: Early in the episode, Jake shares his excitement about meeting Ariana Grande, describing the encounter as “[00:51] the most incredible night.”
Dreams and Nightmares: Both discuss their emotional experiences, including Jake’s nightmare about his tour manager, highlighting the pressures of public life.

Conclusion

Therapuss with Jake Shane – Session 66 offers a candid and enriching conversation between Jake and Lucy. From the depths of songwriting to the challenges of touring, and from personal growth to environmental concerns, the episode is a testament to the therapeutic power of open dialogue. Lucy Dacus’ revelations about her new album and her thoughtful advice segments provide listeners with both inspiration and practical insights.

Notable Quotes:

Jake Shane [35:07]: “Bullseye is my favorite because your voices blend so beautifully with Hozier’s.”
Lucy Dacus [17:26]: “Lyrics over melody is my mantra. The lyrics have to remain paramount, ensuring the story shines through the music.”
Lucy Dacus [30:39]: “Losing loved ones early on made me super aware of temporality and the importance of gratitude.”
Lucy Dacus [52:18]: “I think renewable energy is a hoax. Solar panels last only 25 years and necessitate lithium mining, which is terrible for the environment.”
Jake Shane [21:34]: “Some nights are tough, and I need to let it out by weeping in a corner. It’s a part of the process.”

Stream Forever's a Feeling

Don’t miss out on Lucy Dacus’ latest masterpiece, Forever's a Feeling, available now. Discover the depth of her songwriting and the beauty of her melodies by streaming the album on your favorite platforms.

Note: The timestamps correspond to the transcript provided and highlight key moments in the conversation.