Session 68: Amelia Dimoldenberg

Summary

Session 68: Amelia Dimoldenberg on "Therapuss with Jake Shane"

Release Date: April 24, 2025

In this engaging episode of Therapuss with Jake Shane, host Jake Shane sits down with Amelia Dimoldenberg, the creative force behind the popular web series Chicken Shop Date. The conversation delves into Amelia's journey, the evolution of her show, her experiences hosting high-profile red carpets, and her insights on handling anxiety and media ownership.

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Amelia Dimoldenberg's Journey and Chicken Shop Date

Amelia begins by tracing the origins of Chicken Shop Date, revealing its inception over a decade ago. Originally a column in a magazine at age 17, the concept transitioned to YouTube, gaining momentum particularly with the advent of TikTok which significantly expanded its audience base.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [07:01]: "Before I started, when I started Chicken Shop Date, like, content didn't exist... I felt like there was a space for some more comedy."

Amelia emphasizes the importance of owning her content, which has allowed her to diversify and feature a wide range of guests from various backgrounds, including music, sports, and film.

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Navigating Success and Media Evolution

The discussion highlights how Chicken Shop Date did not achieve overnight success but grew steadily as Amelia persisted in reaching out to diverse personalities. The rise of social media platforms played a crucial role in catapulting her show to international fame.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [07:50]: "The invention of TikTok really catapulted the dates to new eyeballs."

Amelia also shares her strategic approach to maintaining creative control, resisting offers that required relinquishing ownership rights, which she identifies as pivotal to her sustained success.

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Hosting Red Carpets: Challenges and Triumphs

Amelia recounts her experiences hosting red carpet events, including SNL50 and the Golden Globes. She candidly discusses the anxiety that accompanies live interviews, sharing a particularly intense moment during the Golden Globes when a technical mishap threatened to overshadow a standout interview with Andrew Garfield.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [16:49]: "I cried because I just knew in the moment, when you do a great interview, and you just know, like, that interview is amazing."

Through resilience and positive feedback from fans, Amelia illustrates how setbacks can lead to unexpected positive outcomes, reinforcing her belief that "everything happens for a reason."

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Managing Anxiety and Maintaining a Positive Mindset

A significant portion of the conversation is dedicated to coping mechanisms for anxiety, especially in high-pressure situations like live hosting. Amelia shares personal strategies, including preparing extensively, adopting a "fake it till you make it" mindset, and seeking support from her team.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [20:14]: "Have more confidence in yourself... if you're prepared, like, then that's all you can be."

Jake Shane resonates with Amelia's insights, reflecting on his own struggles with anxiety and the importance of a positive outlook.

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The Role of Social Media and Digital Well-being

Transitioning into a broader discussion, Jake and Amelia explore the pervasive influence of social media and smartphone addiction. They debate the merits and drawbacks of digital engagement, contemplating societal changes if a significant number of people decided to disconnect from their devices.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [69:12]: "I'm thinking about it because I feel like people's brains are being altered, and people are getting more depressed."

Their dialogue underscores the challenges of maintaining mental health in the digital age, advocating for mindful usage and digital detox strategies.

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Interactive "Tell Me What's Wrong" Segment

The episode also features the interactive "Tell Me What's Wrong" segment, where Jake and Amelia address listener-submitted dilemmas. Topics range from relationship struggles and friendship tensions to workplace issues and personal anxieties.

For instance, when discussing a situation where a friend intoxicated and damaged new shoes, Amelia advises addressing the issue with humor and directness, while emphasizing the importance of evaluating the health of the friendship.

Amelia Dimoldenberg [54:09]: "That's definitely strange behavior, don't you think?"

Similarly, they tackle questions about handling family reunions after long periods of distance, offering pragmatic tips to navigate potential awkwardness and foster meaningful connections.

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Closing Reflections

In wrapping up the episode, both Jake and Amelia exchange mutual respect and appreciation for each other's work ethic and mindset. Amelia commends Jake's talent and natural ability, while Jake lauds Amelia's hard work and positive outlook.

Jake Shane [72:14]: "That's my biggest takeaway is that you work super hard and you have a really good mindset."

The session concludes on a heartfelt note, reinforcing the show's theme of blending humor with deep introspection to provide listeners with both entertainment and valuable insights.

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Key Takeaways:

• Persistence and Ownership: Amelia's dedication to Chicken Shop Date and her insistence on owning her content were crucial to her show's longevity and success.
• Handling Live Anxiety: Effective preparation and a supportive team can mitigate the stresses of live hosting.
• Digital Well-being: Mindful engagement with social media and technology is essential for mental health.
• Navigating Relationships: Addressing conflicts with honesty and humor can strengthen or clarify personal relationships.

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Quotes have been selected to highlight significant moments and insights from the conversation, providing a comprehensive overview for listeners and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Jake Shane]

Hi. Welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on Amelia de Moldenberg. She is host of Chicken Shop Date. She is so funny. So incredible. I look up to her so much. So it was such an honor to get to have her here and ask her so many questions about how she does what she does because it's not easy to connect with so many different people. People. And it's so incredible to see and I just was so excited to ask her all about it. And I'm so excited for you guys to get to know her more. If you don't already this week, I guess for life updates, I'm still teetering down on my meds. I'm on 40s. I forgot to take them today. So, you know, but I, I, that's reminding me I need to do that. My OCD is out of control, as you can tell. I'm like second guessing every word that comes out of my mouth. Even the word that just came out of my mouth. I'm like literally having an OCD attack right now. It's just because when I get really excited or nerv about something, my OCD really flares up and it's really flaring up right now. And I'm really trying to control it, but like, it's not well. And I'm really. I know. It's just I'm really trying and I think I really need to get into exposure therapy because I think it's the only thing that will help me. But it just sucks because I remember there was a time period where my meds were really working. It was like that and a mixture of exposure therapy was like perfect. It was like it basically like not didn't go away, but was so quiet for a period of time and it was like perfect. But then obviously SSRIs don't really work after a time period. So I need to figure it the out. I think I just trauma dumped on you guys. I'm so sorry, but it is true. But yes, tonight we have Amelia de Moldenberg. This week I am in New York. So right now I'm in la. But when you are watching this, I will be in New York. My OCD is telling me not to say that, which is insane. But I just have to say that out loud. I don't know what the is going on. I'm literally having a mental breakdown. But yeah, I. It's about to be summer. I don't know what else to say. I'm freaking out. I need to take my meds. Holy. I'm gonna, I don't know what to I want. Okay, I'm gonna tell you about what I'm listening to and what I'm watching before we get into tonight's episode. I am listening to Bonnie Bear's new album. I'm also listening to a lot of claro because I saw her at Coachella and she was incredible. I'm watching, obviously, the new season of Hacks. It's amazing. I'm also watching the last of us I did not see. Well, I guess hopefully by the time that this airs, I will have seen the first two episodes. Apparently last night's episode was. Was it that good? I think you're gonna like a long, long time better. Really? But story wise, I'm not.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No spoilers.

[Jake Shane]

No spoilers. Story wise, it's the most, like, important. Really?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my. I'm so excited. Like, gagged. Like, you're gagged. You'll see. Oh, my God, I'm pumped. And Caitlyn Deaver was here, so I cannot wait to watch it. I'm so excited. I'm still watching Veep, which is just hilarious and perfect. And Julia Louis Dreyfus is just unbelievable. And I'm very much enjoying that. I'm also still watching Real Housewives of New York, which is just the best ever. And I just finished the leftovers, which changed my fucking life, you guys. You need to watch the leftovers. And so the first season, you're going to watch it and you're going to be like, okay, you're really gonna have to push. Beginning of the second season, you're also gonna have to push. Then it starts to rev up and up and up and up and up. And the third season is just like one of the best seasons of television I think I've literally ever seen in my life. It is unbelievable. This show will actually change your life. Like, it'll like the finale of it. I'm not obviously not gonna give anything away, but you're sitting there and you're like, what the did I just watch? Didn't you feel that same way? I was like. I was like, mind by that show because I was like, what's happening right now? Tonight is Amelia de Moldenberg. And it's also an amazing episode. I really, really hope you guys like it. She is so funny. I'm headed back out on the road May 16th. I begin in San Francisco. Go to pass that post.com and click live with Jake Shane to see if I'm coming to a city near you. And go to pass that post.com and click tell me what's wrong? To tell me what's wrong. Leave a name, a number if you're feeling fancy. Enjoy tonight's episode. Pussies. I love you guys so much. Hi. Welcome back to Therapists. Today we have the legend Amelia de Moldenberg.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well done. You got it right.

[Jake Shane]

Well, I was very scared because I. As I was telling you, I just pronounce subsequent wrong.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And what did you say?

[Jake Shane]

Subsea squint.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Subsea squid. Okay. Sounds like what one of these should be called.

[Jake Shane]

Or, like, it's like the meta. Like us. Like the name of, like, an ocean, A body of water.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, Doneberg. Yay. Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to be here.

[Jake Shane]

I'm so happy you're here.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Thank you.

[Jake Shane]

When did chicken chop date start?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It actually started 10 years ago.

[Jake Shane]

What?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know. Well, actually now nearly, like, 11 years. Like, over 10 years ago. And it before that was when the first YouTube video was. And before that, it was a column in a magazine, like, which I started when I was 17. So, yeah, a long time, basically.

[Jake Shane]

And it was always called Chicken Shop Day.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Always called Chicken Shop Day. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

And you would, like, take people out and get chicken.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I would have first date with them in a chicken shop, and we would eat. I would eat chicken nuggets. They would. I'd maybe force them to eat chicken nuggets. And. Yeah. It's just been. It's been a long journey to find my one true love, and I'm still. Still looking same.

[Jake Shane]

It's okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Have you ever had a boyfriend?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. I haven't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, you're not missing out, so it's fine.

[Jake Shane]

Really?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Did you ever find a lot of admin?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

A lot of work.

[Jake Shane]

Right. That's what I thought, too. But I feel like the guys in the UK are a lot better than the guys here.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, I don't know. I'm not speaking from experience.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't know. I feel like it's kind of that, like, kind of annoying wherever you go. It's kind of hard to find what I'm finding at the moment. It's hard to find, like, an emotionally available man. I think that there's, like, plenty of guys who are, like, interested in talking to you, but then they're not sort of serious.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

There's a lot of unserious men out there.

[Jake Shane]

I think I'm not emotionally available.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Well, then, like, I don't think I am.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I feel like I'm not either.

[Jake Shane]

Right. Like, you're Busy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I'm busy. But also I feel like I'm always like, oh, I want to try find my one true love. I want to find one true love. No, I don't.

[Jake Shane]

That's what I think.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I want to work.

[Jake Shane]

I want to work.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I want to work. Okay, I'm working.

[Jake Shane]

Wait, so when did it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I. I need to start work. Working so much.

[Jake Shane]

Do you like working?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I love working.

[Jake Shane]

Me too.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like when your work is your. Your passion.

[Jake Shane]

How could you not?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

How can you not? Yeah, just your door to work.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Capitalist capitalism is just really like. It's just overwhelming basically. Yeah, I love to work when it did.

[Jake Shane]

But when did Chicken Shop Date take off? Because it felt, I feel like for everyone else, it felt like kind of like this overnight thing, right?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's like one day it wasn't okay. It was a ten year journey. No, I know. No, I feel like it became like more people got to know about it, especially in America, like when Tick Tock was invented.

[Jake Shane]

Ah. So it like really took off, the.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Invention of Tick Tock. Yeah. Really just catapulted the dates to. To new eyeballs, I feel like. Yeah, because then like, my content was being shared more and then also at that same time, I was able to get more international guests on. And yeah, I feel like maybe the Jack Harlow episode, which was like three years ago or maybe four, was the. When the American audiences, like started to see it. And then I was able to get more and more international guests and then from there, like, it kind of grew. But like, that was always the ambition of mine. Like, I always wanted it to be like, cross genre. Like, all different types of people from different, like, cultural, like, areas of like, music to sport.

[Jake Shane]

Right, right, right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

To movies. It just took me a while to like, get people to agree to date me.

[Jake Shane]

Were you, Were you, like, do you remember the point where it was like you had stopped reaching out as much and people were coming to you?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Maybe like two years ago.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. But I also feel like this is like my. The rise of like Chicken Shop Date has happened through the rise of, like, content. Like, before I started, when I started Chicken Shop Date, like, content didn't exist. Like, the algorithms, like, weren't there. That was like feeding us all this content. Like, I started Chicken Shop Date because I felt like there was a lack of like a funny, like, quick fire interview where you were getting to see a different side of some. Someone's personality. Like, everything felt very serious and like, about, you know, someone's musical influences and like a deep Dive. And I love watching those kinds of interviews, but I just felt like there was a space for like, some more comedy and now it's like so like, oversaturated with like, with like, funny, quirky interviews where they're like, having to eat a million things or like, having to like, try on different hats and like, do funny bits and stuff. And so, like, the landscape has now changed. Change to the point where, you know, talent is more willing to do those kind of interviews. Whereas before, when I started, it was just like, why would I do that kind of interview, first of all. And second of all, why would I ever do a YouTube interview? Like, I'm not even spending time doing YouTube podcasts or anything. Like, podcasts didn't really like, even have exist like 10 years ago. So it's just I've kind of grown with the time, like, how media has like, changed.

[Jake Shane]

Has anyone ever come to you and been like, let's turn this into like a talk show, Like a late night show?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I guess. Yeah, in a way. But like, it's never worked out. And then there were times in which I like, met with UK broadcasters to like, do something with them, but then they wanted to take the. The copyright, like the rights.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And I was always like, no, I want to own like, all of the rights to the show. So then I always just said no to those deals. And it's like the best thing I ever. I've ever done. Because now I like completely own everything.

[Jake Shane]

That's amazing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I would always say that as my advice to other people too.

[Jake Shane]

If they just own your.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yes, own it. Because then you just can do whatever you want with it. And. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Was there ever like, a guest you had that was like, so surprising? Like you just weren't anticipating it to go the way it did.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I was kind of surprised by Givon being like, so funny. I don't know why. Like, I think maybe because his. His music is quite serious. Like, like love songs. Like, he's really in his feelings. And I just like, didn't think he would be so hilarious. So I was really pleasantly surprised by him. And he actually told me a really cute story. I bumped into him at music festival and he said that like, him and his family, like, re watch the episode like on the big TV at home. Like, and they like, think it's such a great, like, example of like, him and his personality and they love to like, re watch it as a family. And I was like, that's so cute.

[Jake Shane]

That's the best compliment when you, like, get someone's Real authentic personality out 100.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. But I. Yeah. And I don't know what other ones have really surprised me, but that one stands out.

[Jake Shane]

And then when did you start, like, hosting red carpets? Because you're about to host the Oscars. You just hosted SNL50.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, it was so. I love doing the red carpets. I mean, do you like doing them?

[Jake Shane]

I've only done it, I think, once, and I.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Over mtv.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. And I was literally like, I. First of all, I said yes to that because they said the person that had done it before was you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So I was like, oh, well, if she did it, like, I can do this. Like, I think, like, that's a cool thing to do, if she did it. And that's.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's nice. Thank you.

[Jake Shane]

Well, it's true. Was that not as. That is true. She was like, amelia did it. I was like, okay. But I was so scared.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I get so scared as well.

[Jake Shane]

I. You do?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I get so nervous. Oh, my God.

[Jake Shane]

I can't tell.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, yeah, well, especially for, like. Yeah, I get really, really nervous. And I'm. I'm thinking, like, am I going to be as nervous as I was last year for the Oscars? Like, I'm hoping that I wasn't. But, like, last year, I had, like. I don't think I've ever experienced, like, a panic attack before, but that must have been what it was, because I, like, couldn't really breathe, and I was like. And I had to call my sister, and I was like. And she was like, just go for a walk. And I was like, okay. So I, like, went for a walk, and I just, like, I felt really overwhelmed. And then I went for lunch with my team, and it was meant to be a really nice lunch, like, before we do the Oscars, like, to celebrate, like, just to be nice. And I literally. They were like, are you okay? And I was like, I'm not okay. And I was like, again, like, heavy breathing. I was like, Like, I felt so nervous. I get nervous because I want to do a good job. Like, that's what I get nervous about. And I get nervous. I'm gonna blank.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Someone's gonna come up to me, and I've, like, know exactly who they are. I've, like, prepped all my questions beforehand, and I'm. They're gonna come up to me. I'm gonna be like, how are you? And, like, it's like, no, don't ask how. Because I'm just, like, trying my best to, like, not ask them. Like, are you Excited for tonight? Like, I'm trying to think of, like, other questions because, like, that's why I want to do. That's why I love doing red carpets. And it's because I want to be asking questions that, like, are unusual, that people, like, don't expect. Because, like, there's such a long history of, like, red carpet reporting, and some of it is so incredible, and some of it is just, like, quite repetitive. And I'm trying to ask something different, so I just worry and I get nervous that I'm just going to blank and be like, so, like, what are you wearing?

[Jake Shane]

Right, right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I guess the first one was, like, the GQ man of the Year, which was like, yes, three years ago.

[Jake Shane]

And you still do that?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I still do that because I love it because I get such a good group of people and I just love gq and, like, they're so nice to me there, and it's nice to do, like, a great one in, like, the uk and they just always get amazing people.

[Jake Shane]

How do you prep for these things? Like, do you always know who you're talking to? Or, like, how do you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, they give us a list beforehand of, like, guests, but then that kind of can change. And then they can also send, like, names, really last minute, which I love. And. And then, yeah, I guess normally, like, me and my sister and then, like, another writer will, like, prep all questions and we'll do general questions that we can ask anyone. And then we'll do individual questions, like five individual questions for each person. Okay. And then I have the. And then I just kind of try and memorize them. And then I, like, have them on cue cards. But then, really, when I'm interviewing people, I can't even look at my cue card. So I kind of do have to memorize them. And like, at SNL 50, I was super nervous and I kept forgetting my questions and I kept just asking the same questions. And my sister was there being, like, in the in ears, being, like, asking the same questions to me. And I was like, Zoe, I know, I do. I'm just, like, so nervous. Like, Kristen Wiig is right there chewing up next to Maya Rudolph, like, all these people. And I was like, Fred Armiston. I was like, I can't do it. But then I feel like I left being like, oh, my God, I didn't perform very well. Like, and then I then basically, a fan. I have a fan page, like, a new fan page that, like, I didn't have any fan pages for, but now I have this new one. And they are so good at, like, their edits. And so they made an edit of the live stream from SNL50. And so when I woke up in the morning, I watched it, like, their edit. They did a compilation. And then I was like, oh, right, you did do a good job. And then I felt better about it because I, like, they had made a really good edit. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

That is. I feel like, the best feeling in the entire world. But it's. I feel like it's also like, are you the type who, like, sets your expectations low so that it can be like, yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And it's funny because the first time I did, when I did the Golden Globes, like, I have my expectations so high, I was like, I'm gonna get every single person I've prepped for. Like, what the hell? I'm so deluded. And that's what I would think. Yeah. I was like, I'm gonna get everyone. I'm gon Taylor. I'm gonna get react. I was like, I'm gonna get an interview with Taylor Swift. I'm gonna get an interview with Rihanna and all these people that I'd prep for. And then I couldn't get, like. I could. I couldn't get, like, hot, like, less than half the people that I prep for. Like, I feel like I only got, like, 10 people. And then that really set my expectations, right, for, like, then future carpets, where I'm just, like, lucky to get, like, anyone.

[Jake Shane]

Right, right, right. Okay. And did you. Were you so, like, disappointed in the moment?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I was. I literally left the carpet, and I was like, I can't believe. I can't believe we couldn't get, like, all the people that I wanted to get, even though I got so many amazing interviews, but I just, like, wanted to get, like, every single person. I wanted to do 100 interviews.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

In an hour. Yeah, but. But, yeah, no, that. But that carpet was great because I got, like, an amazing interview with Andrew Garfield, so it actually ended up being great.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Even though at the time we. They. We lost the footage to that interview.

[Jake Shane]

No, you didn't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, it was crazy. Like, I basically went to bed thinking that we had lost the interview because they. They. The memory card had, like, corrupted. And so I went to bed being like, oh, my God, like, my. My life's over. Like, my career's over. Like, everything's. Everything's wrong. I was, like, at the after party of the Golden Globes, like, trying to have fun, and I was like. My manager was like, can you smile? And I was like, no, I Can't. I went up to my hotel room. I cried because I just knew in the moment, you know, when you do a great interview, and you just know, like, that interview is amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And that's why I felt like in the moment. And then when they were like, we've lost the footage.

[Jake Shane]

I can't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I was just like, what do you mean you lost the footage? What do you mean? Anyway, then I woke up the next day, and then they were like, we found the B cam. And I was like, oh, hallelujah.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And so, I don't know, like, in the interview, there's, like, all the other interviews. You have, like, the front on camera, the AAB and the side camera. And for his interview, it's only the side camera. And at the time, I was like, oh, God, it's not as good. Like, but obviously, we still have to put it out. And actually, it turned out to be amazing, because now everyone. It feels like you're a fly on the wall. But because it's the B cam, it's like, over the shoulder. It's like your eavesdropping in on the conversation. So it's actually even better. Okay, so actually, everything works out.

[Jake Shane]

Everything does.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That was the story.

[Jake Shane]

Everything about everything happens for a reason.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I really believe that.

[Jake Shane]

I also believe that. Well, I believe that because if you don't believe that, like, you. How you can't live exactly like it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What's meant for you won't pass you by.

[Jake Shane]

Well, exactly. And also, like, if nothing happen. If nothing happens for a reason, like, where. Why are we living?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

True.

[Jake Shane]

Like, you know what I mean? Like. Like, what's the point?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, yeah, I. I agree.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

We're aligned on that.

[Jake Shane]

We're aligned.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Everything happens for a reason.

[Jake Shane]

You actually hearing you talk about this stuff is so beneficial. I. I feel like, for my headspace. Because, like, when I. I. I get so anxious going into it and.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, anxious. I'm sorry.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I know Louise is listening to this right now and being like, I wish you could adopt her mindset 1,000%. Because, like, if that Golden Globes thing happened to me, like, I would literally, like, smash my head through a wall.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. But that was my manager being like, you can't. You have to slap, like, get yourself together. Like. Like, it's gonna be fine. And then also, it was fine in the end. And also, if it wasn't. If, for some reason I couldn't find the footage, it still would have been fine, because then it would. Honestly, then it just. As you said, it wasn't meant to be. Like, you would just be able to have that moment another time or whatever, or, like. Exactly. But you just. You have to have more confidence in yourself. But I. Something I always struggle with, too. Like, it's always like, right, sometimes I'm feeling super confident, and, like, I'm like, yeah, I've got this. Like, I'm amazing at what I do. Like, I'm gonna be able to do a really great job. And then sometimes I feel really overwhelmed. And it just depends what day it is, really. But I always would say, like, my dad gave me this advice. Like, you have to. Well, I can't. I'm not saying it properly, but he basically just like, if you're prepared, like, then that's all you can be. Like, do all your research. Prepare as much as you can. Like, give 100% in the prep. And then, like, it's up to, like, the gods to decide your fate, basically.

[Jake Shane]

It's true. Do you. But, like, when you were at snl, you were like. You have people, like, queued up and stuff. Like, do you feel like, oh, my God, like, I just need a fucking second to breathe?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I did on that, for some reason, on that. On that carpet. Yeah. And then I just did. I wasn't. I obviously couldn't because we were live, and, like, I just wasn't able to. So I was just, like, telling my. Myself in my head, like, calm down. Like, you know all these questions. You've been memorizing all these questions. Like, breathe. Like, I feel like I just got a bit, like, panicked, and I just needed to, like, it's gonna be okay. Yeah. So I tried to, like, calm myself down in my head, and I. I feel like I'm always gonna be someone who thinks they could do a better job than they did. Like, maybe you're the same. Like, I come away from everything, and I'm like, you could have done better, Amelia. You could have done better. But maybe that's also why I'm, like, successful as well. But then. But then I also feel like it's a balancing act because you kind of also want to enjoy things.

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And I said to myself, I found myself when I left the carpet. I was going to my sister and, like, some other people in the team, I was like, I don't know if that was any good. Like, any. I don't know if that was good. I feel like that wasn't good enough. And then I clocked myself, and I was like, that's such a negative vibe. Like, when everyone's being like, that was so fun for you to. Then for the person who's, like, leading to be like, that was. That was. Could have been better. Like, that wasn't fun. Like, that's just. You're bringing everyone down. So then I was like, let's not do this, Emelia. Let's. Even if you're thinking it, let's just be like, that was great. Brilliant. And then just, like, fake it till you believe it yourself. That's what I'm trying to do more of.

[Jake Shane]

I feel like I really needed to hear that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Yeah. Because if. Are you someone who also be like, oh, God. Well, I didn't go out. Like, oh.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I. Even if you think, like, you do that, like, I. Like, can't even emphasize enough. Like, I. I. It's the only words I know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Because if you think about it, when someone does that to you, you're just like, oh.

[Jake Shane]

Like, shut the fuck up.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Like, it's like, just. It's just, like, not the vibe. And so I'm trying to always be this person where I take. Remove myself from myself and, like, think, if I was, like, talking to a friend, like, a friend was talking to me, and I'm the friend, like, what would I say? Or, like, how would I want to be? Like, that kind of helps me sometimes.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

When did you learn all. All this?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't know. I feel like I'm learning it.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's like a process. Like, that moment, which is, like, last weekend was, like, me trying to change the way that I approach things.

[Jake Shane]

Like, actively.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, actively. To be like, it's not gonna help anyone. What is. What is me being like, oh, I don't know if that went very well. Like, you can't change anything right now. Like, my sister always does tell me, like, if you can't change it in the time, then, like, maybe it's not worth speaking on.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Because. Yeah, probably not true.

[Jake Shane]

Damn.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Gonna help.

[Jake Shane]

What's your star sign?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'm an Aquarius.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, Wait, where's Aquarius? Right there.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Hey. Hey, girl.

[Jake Shane]

That's a queer puss. I'm a Scorpio.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Are you a Scorpio?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, Lord's my best friend. To scorpios.

[Jake Shane]

Really?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

That.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's quite like a fiery sign. Like, it's quite like, I feel like it's an important sign.

[Jake Shane]

I also feel that way, too. And I don't know if, like, I'm just, like, diluted in the head with it, but, like, I also feel like it's a pretty Important sign. Yeah, but I might. Do you know you're rising in your moon?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No. Sorry.

[Jake Shane]

I would bet one of them's a Gemini.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

Not in it, because.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Why?

[Jake Shane]

Because you're a really good interviewer.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And are you a Gemini?

[Jake Shane]

I'm a Gemini. Rising. Gemini moon.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But you're a great interview. You know what's crazy to me is that you have, like, no questions. You're just, like. It's coming off the top of your head.

[Jake Shane]

Thank you so much.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I think that's, like, really skillful. Like, it could never be me. I'm, like, there, like, literally memorizing all my questions. Like, I have them, like. Like, looking at them, glancing at them. Like, I can't. I'm not good at, like, just being like.

[Jake Shane]

Well, I think it's, like, a different. Like, it's a different thing because, like, if I had. I've just been bad. I've been like, I have a weird relationship with structure. I think I've always had this really weird relationship with structure. And, like, if I had the questions in front of me, if I got even one, like, slightly wrong, like, it would just throw me off.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Right, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, it would just throw me off.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Also. I feel like this is, like, very conversational.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And, like, some of the stuff that I do is, like, I'm writing jokes as the questions are, like, actual bits.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's, like, jokes. So I, like, have to kind of, like.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Remember them and say them, because it's part of the, like, bit.

[Jake Shane]

Right, Right, right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Specific question.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, exactly.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Was there ever a question you forgot to ask someone that you were like. And you wanted.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So bad.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, all the time. And then I started doing this thing on my Instagram, which is where I would, like, post the questions that I forgot to ask. But then I got in trouble with an artist. I'm not gonna say their name, but, like, they. I posted one of them once. Like, the questions I forgot to ask. And then they messaged me, being like, please take that down. Like, I can't believe you were gonna ask me that question. Like, I can't believe you posted that question.

[Jake Shane]

Are you serious?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'm serious. And I was so stressed, and I was like. I mean, I think they were. Yeah, it was. It was like, yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Anyway, so then after.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And then I. And then I took it down, but I was so stressed.

[Jake Shane]

I. Have you ever gotten, like, was that the only time you've ever received, like, negative feedback to, like, with an artist or someone?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, then there was one other time that I've spoken about once before, which was like, when I asked this other person in an interview because they were like in like a fantasy show and this was like a common theme in the show. So I thought it was like a fun question. And I. I basically was like, incest thoughts and did not go down well. Publicist was like, you can't. You have to remove the whole interview. Like, so, yeah, it didn't happen, but it wasn't chicken short day. It was like on a red carpet. So it was fine.

[Jake Shane]

Are you serious?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I mean, I thought that was funny. My sister. My sister wrote that question. She was like, this is hilarious. And I was like, yeah, it's quite funny. And then. Yeah. And never saw the live day incest thoughts. Those. You could just been like, bad, bad.

[Jake Shane]

Not a vibe.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, not a vibe.

[Jake Shane]

Speaking of incest, do you watch the White Lotus?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I haven't watched. I watch it, but I haven't watched the new one.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, well, there's like incest vibes going on.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Why are you spoiling it?

[Jake Shane]

Sorry. I know, I know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, great. Yeah. It's just one episode, right? This out.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. So that's why I'm like, I'm feeling bad about the spoilization of it all. But like, I. It.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. But I don't know what kind of incest.

[Jake Shane]

You don't know, but there's lots of. You'll watch it. You'll be like. That's what he was talking about.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I really loved the first two series. They were so good. Loved. I can't. Yeah, new scene's gonna be great.

[Jake Shane]

I never saw the second one.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, you should. It's crazy.

[Jake Shane]

Isn't that weird?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's weird of you. And you're watching the third.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

The thing that's good with this series is like, you don't really have to like, watch each one to understand.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But there are recurring characters from the first.

[Jake Shane]

Right. Like Belinda's in the third and what's her name's Tanya's husband.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, really?

[Jake Shane]

In the second.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Another spoiler. Oh, no, no, no. That said that. Okay, never mind. Let's talk about something else.

[Jake Shane]

What else are you watching?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What else am I watching? Couples therapy. Do you watch it?

[Jake Shane]

I don't like, love reality television if it's not Housewives.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, no. You have to watch couples therapy. It's so. Do you know the premise of the show? It's basically like you're, you're. You'd love this. You'll watch. It's like you're in the Therapy session of couples.

[Jake Shane]

Why do. Why would they agree to this exactly?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't know. Like, but, like, some of them do. And, like, the therapist, she's amazing. She's called Orna, and she's, like, the most amazing therapist ever, and she's a couples therapist. And then they have all different types of couples in New York City, and you, like, watch their therapy, and it's so fascinating and interesting and, like, insightful into relationships and all these different things, and it's, like, so relatable in many ways, and then totally not in another. And, like, it's just. I love it, so. I love watching that. And then I don't know what else. What can you remember? Like, what?

[Jake Shane]

You watch Housewives.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, I know, girl. I know.

[Jake Shane]

I think you would like it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Do you think? I. I feel like sometimes I'm, like, it's too dramatic. I'm not a very, like, drama person.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, but you're not a part of the drama, and it's, like, so fun because you're watching it. And. Do you watch Housewives? Okay, so.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, this is, like, I need to. Maybe it's where I'm going wrong. My toxic trait is I don't watch Housewives.

[Jake Shane]

No, No. I think. Start with Salt Lake.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Someone gets Beverly Hills. Everyone's talking about Beverly Hills.

[Jake Shane]

Beverly Hills is great. Beverly Hills is long. Salt Lake is less daunting. It's like, five seasons and, like, on season. Well, I don't want to spoil it for you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, you love spoiling things. Go ahead.

[Jake Shane]

Someone gets arrested by the FBI on camera.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, I heard about that.

[Jake Shane]

It's awesome.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. That's crazy. Would you ever, like, be in a reality show?

[Jake Shane]

I don't think so. Would you? No, I've. I've really thought about it because I know I would be good at it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You would.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I know surely that's been pitched.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

To you, like, even, like, to have cameras, like, in this house. So, like, no.

[Jake Shane]

I've had people, like, mention it, but, like, the thing is, like, me and my friends are always, like, we wouldn't speak to each other after.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Also, it's so intense, like, for everything to be filmed and everything to become, like, part of a story or, like, a narrative. Like, I feel like you'd get really overwhelmed, and you'd become, like, more anxious.

[Jake Shane]

I. It would ruin my life. First of all, hear no evil, see no evil. Like, I don't want to hear what you're saying about me. Like, I just don't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

We shouldn't. We shouldn't I don't want to know.

[Jake Shane]

I don't want to know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And also, it's normal. Like, gossiping is normal. It's like a normal part of life. It's like one of the oldest of the choir, the oldest tradition in the world, gossiping. But we should never. It should all. It's totally fine to do that. But. Yeah, you should never hear it.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I just don't want to. But, like, I know that, like, I would just. I. I think I would be like. I think the issue is I'd be, like, villainous on the show.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, really? Okay. You'd be the villain.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I think I. I think I would play the field and I'd stir the pot and it would just blow up in my face. And then everyone would be like, get him.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, you know, that would be really stressful. But also you'd have, like, a fun story out because maybe you'd be like, loved, hated, loved again. You know what I mean? It would be like the hero's journey. It would be, like, very interesting.

[Jake Shane]

It would be interesting, but, like, I don't want to be hated.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So it's like, I can't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, good job. I'm not a TV producer with an idea for you, so don't worry. No one's gonna make you do a show.

[Jake Shane]

I would do, like, a reality show if it was like, let's travel the world and do, like, Simple Life vibes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, that's fun.

[Jake Shane]

But like, a show show. Like Bravo vibes. No, but I love me some Bravo. Have you ever been on Watch what Happens Live?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, have you?

[Jake Shane]

I was, like, a bartender once.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, you need to be, like, the main.

[Jake Shane]

I would love to. You need to sit in the seat.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Andy is Andy Cohen.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

He was at the SNL after party.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, He's a party.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

He's a party.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

You mentioned you're working with your sister.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

When did you start working together?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, we've always, like, kind of, like, worked together, but, like, it's never been, like, formalized. Like, for the. For the beginning of time, she'd, like, watch all the chicken shop day edits and, like, give me notes and stuff. And then she'd, like, help me with questions sometimes and, like, like a lot of the episodes she is actually credited on, but, like, I don't know, she's just like my sounding board. Like, you probably have this with your, like, friends and stuff. Like.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Whenever you. And you have, like, loads of people. Is it. Is it Matt or something?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

How do you know about Matt?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, because you, like, speak about him and, like.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You'll, like, say you've got an offer in and then you'll, like, ask his opinion.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, yeah. When I said I was. When I was like, like the Oil Regain brand.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, but then you would have said. Because he, like, would know if it was, like, a good thing to do or not. I don't know. Or something. You ask. You ask your friends about, like, offers and things like that. And I just. I have that, but just with my sister, like, I don't speak to anyone else, apart from about work stuff, apart from her and obviously my team. And so she's always kind of, like, been around, but she kind of now works more formally with me, like, on red carpets.

[Jake Shane]

How. What's the age gap?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

A year? One year and a half? Oh, she's like, the year below school.

[Jake Shane]

And were you guys, like, always close growing up?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, we're so close to. Too close, actually. Some might say. Like, we used to live together and they had. We. She had to move out because we were, like, fighting. No, the opposite. We were, like, too codependent.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, do you live alone now?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, yeah, I live alone.

[Jake Shane]

I'm scared of living alone.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really? Yeah. I'm on my phone so much more living alone.

[Jake Shane]

What's your screen time?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, probably like eight hours. I was with someone the other day. They showed me their screen time. 16 hours.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. That's like, mine. I spend my life on my phone.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know, but we need to, like, touch some grass.

[Jake Shane]

I want to be the grass.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I want to, like, assume the grass as myself, but I can't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know, but what, like, are you on? Because I think I'm just on WhatsApp the whole time. You don't know what that is? Do you know?

[Jake Shane]

I know WhatsApp is. I went on Hinge in the UK and everyone was like, here's my number. You can WhatsApp me.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And you were like, googling what that was.

[Jake Shane]

No. Well, here's what I don't love about WhatsApp. I tried to screenshot it to, like, show my friends something, and they were like, we don't do that here.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What? Well, you don't know if someone's Screenshot you on WhatsApp.

[Jake Shane]

Well, I tried to screenshot them and it said no screenshots allowed.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What were you on rare?

[Jake Shane]

No, I was on WhatsApp.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's so funny.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

People in America just, like, don't use WhatsApp. They just love to text.

[Jake Shane]

Why do you guys use WhatsApp.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I just love it. I love the interface. I just feel like it's like, way easier to use. Like you can just like see or you can be reminded of everyone. Like, I don't know, I just think it's way better. Like everyone in the UK is like.

[Jake Shane]

Always whatsapping, like, because it's better than I message.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I think we just find it easier than what. But I think I'm on WhatsApp all the time. Or I'm on Instagram. I'm like on. I'm not really on Tick tock that much because I know it's so addictive. Like, I can just be on it for hours.

[Jake Shane]

It's a legitimate drug.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Like I. I'm super addicted. I'm super addicted to the instant gratification of it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But it's also your job, so it's kind of hard because that's why you're on it way more.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wouldn't it be cool sometimes I always think, like, it'd be so cool to be like one of those celebrities or like people who like, don't have a social media.

[Jake Shane]

Like Mikey Madison.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And they just like. Or like Phoebe Waller Bridge. And they just like, their output is just like their creative art form. And then like, that's it.

[Jake Shane]

And they like, literally. They don't have to ever know what people are saying about them.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No. But they all have burner accounts. You think they all do? Yeah. Yeah, they do.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, it must be so cool. But it's like, what do you do with your day?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

True.

[Jake Shane]

Like, you know what I mean? Like, nap, I guess. Oh, my God. I have this here. Wait, where's my phone? I need to show you. I have this. Do you like naps?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, I'm trying to rid myself from them because I do feel like that.

[Jake Shane]

I have bringing me down spot for a nap in my house.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really?

[Jake Shane]

You want to see?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Oh, I saw that on my way to the toilet. How dangerous. Because it looks too comfy.

[Jake Shane]

I always say, assuming position.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And then I said, it's how. How long are you napping for?

[Jake Shane]

Three, four hours.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, same.

[Jake Shane]

I know. And then I wake up and I'm.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, I can't, like, I don't know how. People like, nap for like 20 minutes. I'm like, what?

[Jake Shane]

I always wake up, like, wet.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And also, like, I also like, often nap in my contact lenses, which is.

[Jake Shane]

Like, you shouldn't do.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And then I like, wake up and I'm like, I can't see. And then I'm like. And I Feel so groggy and I can't shake it for the whole day. And I'm like, why did I do that? It's like self harm.

[Jake Shane]

It is self harmed.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Napping.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, napping is self harm. But it feels so good. It's like sticking your fingers.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's like scratching. Mosquito bite.

[Jake Shane]

Oh yeah. I love scratching a mosquito.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know.

[Jake Shane]

It's like, until it hurts and then it's like, why'd I do that? Want to hear about my dream last night?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Always.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. I had a dream that I did crack cocaine in the south of France and I was super addicted.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Have you ever done cracker cane before?

[Jake Shane]

Never.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No either.

[Jake Shane]

But like in the moment in my dream I like woke up and like, like had to do it before I went swimming.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, yeah. It's only right.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'd even take crack cocaine. I wouldn't even know in my dream.

[Jake Shane]

I was sniffing it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

I think you smoke it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You do? Okay. You don't inject it.

[Jake Shane]

No, no. But it wasn't like coke. It was like crack.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Like I knew because everyone was like, jake's doing crack. And it was like a thing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I need to swim. So like that's the only reason I'm doing it is because I need to go swimming.

[Jake Shane]

And then I ended up on a tour bus in New York.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, of course.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's just how it works. I had like a really intense dream that was basically kind of like the SNL after party. I was like in, I was like at it again. But like, everything was like going wrong. Like I always have. Really? I, I, I need to stop dreaming. I want to give it up.

[Jake Shane]

Wait, wait. But I smoke weed much.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. That's why you dream.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Should I start smoking weed?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, it stops you from dreaming.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't think it's a good idea. Also, in the uk you can't smoke it.

[Jake Shane]

Also, like, I think it would give you bad anxiety.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I basically, I have really viv dreams and I would say nightmares, like nearly every night where I basically play out the day that's just happened or the day that's coming up. But like the worst case scenario, really. And it's like, it's actually, it's like, feels so real. And so I'll wake up in the night and I'll be like, for like a split second I'll be like, oh my God, that thing has happened. And I'll, I'll, it will be really intense. But I think it's because, like, I feel like I don't have that much anxiety in the day, and it all comes out in my dreams.

[Jake Shane]

You suppress it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And then it just all happens in my dreams.

[Jake Shane]

I feel like it's a very, like, British thing for you to do.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. So I basically. I'm stopping. I'm stopping dreaming.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. But I don't know how to do it.

[Jake Shane]

Well, you can't really.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I started reading before bed. Because you want to start reading. Yes, but how's that going for you?

[Jake Shane]

I read one book.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. That's better than Notebook.

[Jake Shane]

It's called the Housemaid.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Have you had Sydney Sweeney on the.

[Jake Shane]

No. Have you?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No. I interviewed her on red carpet once.

[Jake Shane]

Was she lovely?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. So lovely.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, she seems lovely.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

She's smaller in real life.

[Jake Shane]

No way.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, well, everyone is.

[Jake Shane]

Have you seen those AI videos where it's like, pov, you wake up in the Black Plague?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No. Thank God.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's. Thank goodness. I've never seen.

[Jake Shane]

So you wake up. So it's like you. Like, the TikTok video starts, and it's like you hear. And then it's like you wake up and it's like 10am Walk through the streets. Like, feed starving person.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Why would you want this to be your algorithm?

[Jake Shane]

It's just.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's fascinating. It's not real.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, but then you. Then there's like. Like a POV. You wake up in the 1300s on a pirate trip, pirate ship. And it's like, what about pov?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You wake up, you have a boyfriend, they take you for dinner.

[Jake Shane]

There's those, I think, too.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, don't tell me about those, because I'll get stuck in a.

[Jake Shane]

No, but historical ones are awesome. Like, pov. You wake up in Pompeii on, like, the day. It's over.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Is this, like, over the headset?

[Jake Shane]

No, it's just, like, you wake, like, this video starts from, like, legs down. So, like, you can, like, pretend that, like. So it's like, goes like this, and they, like, go about their day.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I think you're on your phone too much.

[Jake Shane]

No, no. I swear to God. These AI ones, like, are a thing. Like, the Black Plague one is awesome. I've rewatched it, like, four times. The streets are, like, mopped with mud.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wow.

[Jake Shane]

And everyone's. And. Oh. And then.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wow.

[Jake Shane]

And then it's like, at 7pm it's like, po. And then it's like, 7pm Visit sick parent. Don't get too close because they're sick. 9:00pm, you feel ill. And then, like, 10:00pm, you die.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

This sounds truly unnecessary.

[Jake Shane]

It's awesome. And it makes me want to watch a movie about the Black Plague.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, you do that.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Have fun.

[Jake Shane]

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[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, well, I've been watching all the Oscars films, and so I just got him excited.

[Jake Shane]

I was gonna ask about Nora, and.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Nora loved so much. I loved it. I thought it was amazing. I love all of Sean Baker's movies, though. Same. I think one of my favorite movies ever is Tangerine. Have you seen Tangerine?

[Jake Shane]

Not yet, but I've seen the Florida project.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Florida Project. Tangerine. Red Rocket. Like, I see Red Rocket. Yep. And an aura was amazing.

[Jake Shane]

Sorry, you, like, nervous? Because I've only seen two.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, well, you lie. That's fine. We can edit that out. And. Yeah. And Nora was amazing. The last five minutes, I think, were, like, exceptional.

[Jake Shane]

Right? And, like, so good. It's just like, I love it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And Mikey was so good.

[Jake Shane]

Mikey was so good. Are you allowed to say who you're, like, rooting for?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I mean, I love Anora. I loved Conclave.

[Jake Shane]

I haven't seen Conclave.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, you have to. Wait. Do you vape?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Do you love it?

[Jake Shane]

No, I don't do the priest vape.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

They might do.

[Jake Shane]

Shut up.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

That's so cool. I thought when they. When they were doing that table read with, like, all those people, like, they were vaping as a joke.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, you would love it. This is a big vaping action in that film. Yeah. And actually, vaping never looks so good.

[Jake Shane]

Well, my thing was, like, I tried to watch Conclave on the. On the plane. And I rented it and then I kept pressing play and it kept exiting out.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, I think actually you need to watch it in the theater. Like it's. Do you ever go to the movie theater?

[Jake Shane]

Barely.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What? Movies are meant to be watched in the movie theater.

[Jake Shane]

I know, but I saw Nosferatu the other day. Yeah. Yeah. And I saw it the other day in the theater and I was sitting there like, I. I mean, like sexy. I mean, like. Yeah. There's like a sex scene with Nicholas Hole and it's awesome.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But like, he's so nice.

[Jake Shane]

Really. I'm obsessed with him.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Britney just interviewed him.

[Jake Shane]

I saw that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So great.

[Jake Shane]

And the Royal Court. Right. Skins I got. Okay. So I actually tried to watch Skins as a kid and I. I watched a lot of. As a kid. Like I was a South park kid, like eight years old. Like. Like Bad Girls Club. Like the whole. To do something about Skins really didn't sit right with me. I think it was too British. No, no. What's her name? Effie.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Weren't her parents, like, sex addicts?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No. Well, they did like to have sex and maybe she like.

[Jake Shane]

She like, always heard it. It was super weird.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, it's true. I feel like there was a lot going on with that show in terms of like the pet. It was interesting because it was like a lot about like, how parents you up.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Which I thought was like. It's a. Kind of like a dark subject. But they did it in quite a light way. I just love. I love Skins, but. Yeah. And that's why I love Nicholas Hole. And then also about a boy as well.

[Jake Shane]

Never seen.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, that's really good one. Hugo. Do you love Hugh Grant?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, cool.

[Jake Shane]

Well, what's he. What? I know who. What else?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Is he in Bridget Jones. Yeah, he's in Paddington. Have you seen Paddington?

[Jake Shane]

No, I haven't.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, Paddington is.

[Jake Shane]

Have you seen Paddington in Peru?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Seen Paddington? Peru.

[Jake Shane]

And he's in Peru.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

He's in Peru? Yeah. I mean. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

What does he do?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

He's in Peru. Well, I'm not gonna tell you.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Because I don't. I'm gonna spoil it for you.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But the first two are better, I think.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Than the Peru one. But. Yeah. So I've been watching all the Oscars films. Conclave was great. I'm gonna see the Brutalist next week in la.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I would love to come. I leave Wednesday.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's four hours, but there's an interval.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. When do you want to see it?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

On Monday?

[Jake Shane]

Yes, I'm free.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. In the evening?

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, great.

[Jake Shane]

You actually want to go?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Well, I'm going.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. So. Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So do you want to go?

[Jake Shane]

I do want to go.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Where are you going on Wednesday tour? Oh, my God. So excited.

[Jake Shane]

I know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, my God. Where's your first.

[Jake Shane]

Dallas.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Dallas.

[Jake Shane]

I know. I'm excited.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, but, like, you've. You've done shows before, and they went really well.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So are you excited?

[Jake Shane]

I'm a little nervous because it's a new show. I. Okay. So basically, like, I have these videos I'm gonna show of myself, and they're super embarrassing, like, to the point where, like.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Are they on TikToks?

[Jake Shane]

No, I can't even put them on TikTok. They're so embarrassing. But I know, like, that they're guaranteed laughs. And if I have two videos that will get me two guaranteed moments of laughter, like, just. It's worth it. Like, if you can leave that show saying, like, I laughed twice, because I know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, they're gonna be laughing the whole time. And also, like, it's great because there is an audience of your fans. They're like. Like, in a way, like, you could probably say anything, and they'll be like, it's so funny.

[Jake Shane]

You would be surprised. There was some, like. Some. It just depends on the city. You have to, like, mold what you're. How you're talking about stuff based on the skill.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

There's a skill in that. Like.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And, like, the more that you do it, like, the better you'll get at it. But, like, it's. I can't believe that you, like, that would terrify me. Like, I've never done anything live.

[Jake Shane]

Would you ever talk about it?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I would love to, but, like, to me, that's, like, totally so scary because I really rely on, like, the edit process of, like, everything that I do is, like, so highly edited. And I feel like I've always used that as, like, my. My, like, comfort. And so, like, to go, then do something live, like, to an audience, I'd be like, but what? I can't, like, be, like, totally live. But I think I would love it because it's, like, probably. Is it very, like, exhilarating when you come off stage?

[Jake Shane]

Exhilarating. And, like, I also think you would be exceptional at crowd work.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You think?

[Jake Shane]

Oh, my God. I think you do a lot of.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Crowd work at your show. I think I looked at the dates, but I'm not in any of the cities, so I'm not, well, coming to the uk. Oh, you are? Okay, great.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. If you're there.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, like this fall.

[Jake Shane]

Like this fall. Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Okay, well, I'll be there.

[Jake Shane]

Great.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Great. Do you always have a guest on your show, like the live show, or is it just.

[Jake Shane]

Sometimes I've guessed, sometimes I don't. Sometimes my friends pop out to tell.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Me Connor's going to be doing stuff.

[Jake Shane]

Connor's going to be doing some stuff with me. I think crowd work would be like second nature to you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, cool. I definitely want to try it.

[Jake Shane]

You, you should. Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's going to be in my, my mood board for soon.

[Jake Shane]

We should come out for a show if. Well, in the uk, we'll do a Tell me what's wrong crowd work. That's crowd work section.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. That'd be good. Then I can like warm up. I can get used to like seeing people, people's faces.

[Jake Shane]

You can also be like, no phones if that really feel better. Yeah, that's like a very common practice in comedy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So do you do no phones for your shows?

[Jake Shane]

Parts of the show are no phones. The crowd work section, you would actually think it is phones. But I do no phones. That's nice because I want everyone in the audience to feel comfortable because I don't want to like, make them the butt of my joke on social media.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, yeah, totally.

[Jake Shane]

So like that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's so exciting. It's really, it's really exhausting going from six.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. Sometimes like last time I did. What was the most we did in a row last time for?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It is four show, like one after the other one.

[Jake Shane]

One, one without a break. Yeah, no break. And like that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And do you go out afterwards?

[Jake Shane]

No, never. I go out to dinner, but I.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Don'T know how musicians do it. You know, like some of my musician friends, they like, they like do a show, then they go to an after party, then they like do another show. I'm like, what's happening?

[Jake Shane]

I think, I don't know. I, I, I don't think I'd be able to go out because like, okay, like, if I was a musician, maybe I would. Because, like, I'd be like, I know what songs I'm singing. And like, maybe I feel tired. But like my, the, the, the comedy of it all isn't gonna hit if my energy is like, yeah, you need.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

To be like really sharp. You need to be like really quick in the moment, like, and funny and. Yeah, I get that. I can't. Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

I went out once though, after my New York show and then I had my show in Canada the very next day and, and I thought it was going to be the worst. Like, I was so. I was so hungover, like, in ways that, like, where, like, I couldn't even describe. Like, I was so brutal. And, like, right before I went on stage, I was like, I can't do this. I can't do this. I can't do this. And then I got on stage and I was sticking to the script of my show. Like, very, very, very cut and paste up until then. And then I just went completely off book. And it was one of the best shows I've ever done, and it completely changed the rest of my tour.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wow. Okay. So you've got to be hungover more often then.

[Jake Shane]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You could. Well, I think the Canadians, like, appreciated, like, the American, like, misery.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Also, Canadians are so funny. Like, some of the funniest people in the world are Canadian.

[Jake Shane]

Right. They had a great sense of humor.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Lorne Michaels is Canadian. Yeah. Yeah. Loads of people that you think are funny Americans are actually Canadian.

[Jake Shane]

Like, who else?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, other people.

[Jake Shane]

Cool. What are you therapist about?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'm therapist about. Good question.

[Jake Shane]

Do you want me to go first?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, you go first.

[Jake Shane]

I'm therapist about. I keep saying this, but it's true. I have a deviated septum. What you know, is like a D. Okay, so it's like a septum, and it's, like, deviated.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It hasn't helped me.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, so is that, like. It's because. I don't know, it's in my nose and, like, it's, like, deviated. Like, I don't know what. Deviated.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Deviant.

[Jake Shane]

It's like, I don't know what it means, but I know that it's not right and it needs to be fixed. So sometimes when I'm talking to people, like, this nostril right here will, like, close up, and then I'll hear, like, vibrations in this earth. And I'd, like, diagnosed that as a deviated septum. And then I posted a story of, like, me like this the other day, and someone swiped up and was like, hey, I'm a nursing student, and I can see that you have a deviated septum.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So what are you gonna do about it?

[Jake Shane]

Well, you're supposed to get it. You're supposed to get it undeviated. And my ear, nose, and throat doctor was like, you don't have a deviated septum.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. So actually, it's fine.

[Jake Shane]

No. So he's like, I know he's lying.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, he's lying to you. He's lying because he's lying.

[Jake Shane]

He. There was some shady business. Like, I knew something was not going on. Like, something was wrong. I think he just wanted me out of the office. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he had, like, posters of, like, a list celebrities, and I was like, oh, I'm the last on his list right now.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Right. He was, like, wanting you to blow out so Kim Kardashian could come in.

[Jake Shane]

Like. Yeah. And then, like, there was, like, some woman in the room next door, like, complaining about pills. And I was like, he's just had a day. He's not ready to, like, give me my deviated septum diagnosis.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, good luck. Thank you so much to you, and I hope you look normal from. From the outside.

[Jake Shane]

Thank you. It doesn't feel normal.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

It's this right here. But. And also, like, when you get a deviated septum, it's like, a nice excuse for a little.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I like a nose job.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, I don't. I don't believe in. In you having any.

[Jake Shane]

Neither do I. But any surgery if it's presented.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

But, like, I don't think I'm going to. But I don't think, like. Like, hopefully, like, no one will believe me if I say, like, I didn't get it. You know, that's, like, the best. It's like, did you get work done? No. It's like, I don't believe you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Or, like, it wasn't cosmetic. It was, like, actually for a reason. So actually it was needed.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, but they. That's what people do. Snore like a. Oh.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So that's actually the real reason why you need to sort out. Because. Do you think that would sort it out? Snoring?

[Jake Shane]

Yes. Yes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Because snoring is bad.

[Jake Shane]

No, it's horrible. And my mattress tells me how much I snore every night.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What do you mean? It speaks to you.

[Jake Shane]

It, like. It, like, can sense. It's called an eight sleep.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Does it have. Okay, okay.

[Jake Shane]

So basically, like, every morning, I wake up to vibrations, and it warms up. The mattress warms up when I wake up, so it wakes me up with vibrations.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What, like a waterbed?

[Jake Shane]

Kind of. And I wake up and I check my phone, turn off the vibrations. I see my sleep fitness score for the night. I see how many hours of. How many hours of REM slee. Deep sleep and lights in the mattress. Yes, it can. It can sense.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's crazy.

[Jake Shane]

It can also sense how long you've snored for. I think it must actually.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It must be Watching you?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, something like that. But it's awesome.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. Wow, that sounds like something from Black Mirror. But, like, fun.

[Jake Shane]

But something like fun.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, maybe like, better, because I don't like wearing rings.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. I don't want an aura ring.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. So maybe that's kind of like the aura ring.

[Jake Shane]

It is like the ordering, except it's your mattress.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So what am I therapist about? I'm. Okay, well, I'm kind of therapist about something that then was, like, rectified recently. But, like, I'm therapist that, like, in the uk, you still have to take all of your toiletries out of the bag when you're going in the airport.

[Jake Shane]

It's diabolical.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, it's insane. And then I was about to do it in America just now when I flew from New York to la. And they were like, what are you doing?

[Jake Shane]

Right?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Put your stuff in your bag. And I was like, what? You mean I don't have to take every single individual tiny thing out of my bag and, like, put it in? And I just feel like it's like the most horrible thing ever. That happens.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, I'm confused. I'm confused though, because I didn't have to do that the other day. Well, I was flying from the UK to America and you didn't have to.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Take your stuff out.

[Jake Shane]

Nothing. I didn't even have to take my laptop out.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really? Okay, well, maybe I'm just going to the wrong airport. Yeah, they've got, like, something. They're out to get me. That's what I'm pissed about. I'm like, you know, like, when people talk about, like, oh, like when you have kids and they're like, oh, back in my day, like, it was so hard. Like, we didn't have, like, running water or electricity. And I'll be like, well, back in my day, we had to take all of our toiletries out of our bag before we put it in the machine in the airport.

[Jake Shane]

Actually. It clogs up the line, dude. You have to take your shoes off as well.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

In the uk, you don't have to take your shoes off. And in America you do.

[Jake Shane]

Well, not with pre check.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, really?

[Jake Shane]

You don't have to do anything with pre check.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, this is very first of all problems, but it is something I was thinking about the other day.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, you want to do the tell me what's wrongs?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

I went to a party with my friend a couple days ago. I lent her my brand new pair of shoes because it went with her outfit more. That's nice. She got Completely wasted, blacked out and pissed on my shoes. She doesn't even remember. What do I say?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

She peed on them. What do you say? You say, hey, you peed on my shoes? Yeah, like, well, you're not gonna tell her that.

[Jake Shane]

This friendship seems iffy if you don't feel comfortable telling her that she peed on your shoes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Because if anything, it could be funny, right?

[Jake Shane]

No, I would not.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

My brand new shoes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, sure. Sorry. Sorry. That's not funny. No, like, that's really unfunny.

[Jake Shane]

Like, what if you lent me those shoes, those gorgeous shoes to wear out for the night and I peed on them?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, I'd just be like, go and get them dry cleaned.

[Jake Shane]

You wouldn't. Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Right.

[Jake Shane]

Can you.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Can you dry clean shoes? These are velvet.

[Jake Shane]

I know. I don't know if you can dry clean. Those are.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It depends. Like, I think if you peed. Okay. Okay. Now I'm thinking about it, because how does she know? Oh, it's kind of awkward to say to your friend, like, by the way, you peed on my shoes, isn't it?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, like, I'm thinking, like, if I went out with, like, one of my best friends, Julia, and she peed on my shoes, I'd be like, hey, you peed on my shoes. So that's why this friendship doesn't seem super, like, you know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I know. And also, you should be able to, like, tell your shoes that. Tell your shoes if you feed on them. Tell your Pete. Tell yours. Tell your friends. Tell your friend if they peed on your shoes. That's a sign of a friendship, or.

[Jake Shane]

Else they're not your friend.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

True.

[Jake Shane]

And also make her buy you new shoes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So basically, you guys aren't friends. Sorry.

[Jake Shane]

Like, one time we have to tell you that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But yeah, friends.

[Jake Shane]

One time. Like, I'm trying to think, like, I've, like, my friend up before and I've.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, but through peeing.

[Jake Shane]

No, like, through, like, I'm trying to remember. Like, I know I've, like, stained something. I've been like, damn. And they've been like, yeah, you need to fix that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't really ever borrow people's clothes and stuff. I think it's because I'm too nervous about, like, ruining them.

[Jake Shane]

I never do. But, like, I'm very messy. So I think the one time I did it, I it up.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Right. Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. It wasn't it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And now you're friends with them or. No.

[Jake Shane]

No. Yes. Best friends.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, great.

[Jake Shane]

Who do you listen to?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, good question. Who do I listen to? I listen to. This is like. I've, like, literally forgotten, like, every single music artist I listen to. I listen to. I've been listening to Lola Young, Messi.

[Jake Shane]

I love Lily Young.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I've been listening to her that song, like, on repeat. At first I was like, oh, I don't know about the song. And then now I'm addicted to the song. I listened to a lot of the 1975. I listened to a lot of Lana. I listen to a lot of Sabrina. I love, like, pop. I just listen to a lot of pop music. And I listen to a lot of, like, older music, too. I listen to a lot of, like, Fleetwood Mac, James Taylor. Like, I listen to a lot of Queen.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Abba.

[Jake Shane]

I love abba.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Have you been to ABBA Voyage?

[Jake Shane]

No. What is that? Is that AI Next?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Next time you come to London, you have to go to ABBA Voyage. It's, like, the best thing ever. And it's like hologram dramas of abba. But it feels like you're actually at an ABBA concert.

[Jake Shane]

I heard that there's this new show in London, it's impossible to get into. And it is called you, Me, Bum Bum Train. Bum Bum Train.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

What the.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Have you won?

[Jake Shane]

No. My friend's like, anytime you want to go, we'll go.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh. Because they. I. I, like. Okay. I. I tried to get tickets, and they were charging me, like, an extortionate amount of money.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, no, no, that's the. That's still a thing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, it's still okay, right? Yeah. You have to pay okay.

[Jake Shane]

Right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But I was thinking about doing it. I was like, maybe it's like. Like, because people have said it's changed their life. So I was like, maybe I could pay that kind of money to change my life.

[Jake Shane]

No, but I. Yeah, I saw people after, they were like, you gotta go to Bum Bum Train.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Everyone. Everyone I know who's been has said it's, like, epic.

[Jake Shane]

I want to go.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, we should go.

[Jake Shane]

I'm down.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. It's only on until, like, the end of April.

[Jake Shane]

What?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, that's what they said to me.

[Jake Shane]

Damn. I gotta go to London in April.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Gotta go.

[Jake Shane]

Did you ever listen to, like, Lily Allen growing up?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Lovely Allen.

[Jake Shane]

I love. I used to go through a really big, like, really big Lily Allen. Like, when she released Jesus.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

That was, like, my whole thing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, she was really like that girl. She just, like, created a whole sort of style. Sound like she was so influential.

[Jake Shane]

Do you have a favorite Lily Allen song.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I love Smile.

[Jake Shane]

I love Smile. I love the song London L. D.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, yeah, Yeah, I love that. Do you know Kate Nash? Kate Nash, Kind of like in a similar world to, like. Well, like, kind of, like around the same time as Lily Allen. But I think if you, like, liked Lily Allen, you'd like Kate Nashville.

[Jake Shane]

Okay, I'll give it a listen.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So my boyfriend and I have been together for four years, and my whole family loves him and tells me not to break up with him. However, recently, I'm starting to realize that I want to. That he and I want two completely different lives going into our late twenties. What should I do?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Break out with him? Yeah, easiest one.

[Jake Shane]

And watch someone great on Netflix. Have you seen that movie? No, it's about that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Or watch how to Be Single with Dakota Johnson. Have you seen that? No, it's also about that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wow. I feel like that's. That's just so easy.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, that is easy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Break up with him. Dump him.

[Jake Shane]

The guy I have a crush on likes my sister. She never do anything about it, thankfully. But. But this is agony. I don't even. I don't even think he thinks about me that way. Is there anything I can do, or am I screwed?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I feel like I had that recently.

[Jake Shane]

Really?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, but not really. But also, maybe me and my sister sometimes like the same guys.

[Jake Shane]

And then. Do you compete?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, I hate com. I hate competition. Okay. Yeah, I guess. No, we don't compete. But, like, there was this guy that my sister like. No, this guy really fancied my sister. And then. But then she didn't, like, fancy him. But then I was like, but I fancy him. And then now I'm like, but can I go there? But nothing happened between them, so.

[Jake Shane]

But she doesn't like him.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No.

[Jake Shane]

So of course you can.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

You think?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

It's kind of still weird because, like, he liked her.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, but she didn't like him.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

But then, like. And then if you're with him, is.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

She gonna be like, no, she's not. Also, if I was actually thinking about this the other day. I was like, if my sister was. If I, like, fancy someone. But my sister was like, I really like them. I would honestly, like, fall on my sword. I'd be like, hey, you can. You can date them.

[Jake Shane]

You're giver.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Because I'm such a good person.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, you're a good person.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

What's your start? What sister? What star sign is your sister, Leo? Oh, I don't know. If you could do that to her, then why? She'd get upset.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Really? But she wouldn't ever show it. That's her vibe.

[Jake Shane]

No, she'd show it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I love Leos.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, you do?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. All of my best friends. Leo's.

[Jake Shane]

That's. That's so interesting because you're such a personality and Leos are also such personalities.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I feel like I really surround myself with like big personalities.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like all of my friends. Big personalities.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I don't really have any like shy friends.

[Jake Shane]

That's awesome.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Do you?

[Jake Shane]

No, I actually don't think I. No. My best friend Alice is shy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. She's also British.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh really?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, she showed me around London. Last time we were there.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I went to live in London. Spencer's.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, I went to market.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So. Great, isn't it? It's like. It's like a better L1.

[Jake Shane]

I think it is better. I got myself some prawn chips.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, I don't like prawns, but.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, okay, cool. Well they also have vegan prawn chips.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's great.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, they were awesome. I got. They have like all the sandwiches. Yeah, they have sandwich. Well, I didn't get that. But they have like. They have sausage. Oh, I love sausage rolls.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I love.

[Jake Shane]

And. And they have whatchamacall. Prawn toast. I guess you don't like prawns.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No, but they have like everything you can like. What I love is they. They have like chicken already like pre seasoned and everything.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And salmon like already pre seasoned. So you just like all this stuff like already pre seasoned. You just put it in the oven.

[Jake Shane]

I like their little pre noodle packets.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. They have everything pre done which is perfect for me because I can't cook.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Pies. They have pies pre made. Put it in the oven.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. My one qualm with London was that it was. It was hard to find a nice coffee. It wasn't hard, it was just like. It was like I. It was like a. I don't know. It was more difficult than anticipated. Also everything is shut down on Sunday till now.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know.

[Jake Shane]

Which was frustrating.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And also it's. They shot. It's like 12 till 5.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But try going to Europe. Like nothing is open on a Sunday. At least we have like five hours.

[Jake Shane]

Do you like Indian food?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And it's really good in the uk.

[Jake Shane]

I've never had better Indian food in my entire life.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Probably if you went to India. But.

[Jake Shane]

Okay. But other than that, have you ever been to Jamavar?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No.

[Jake Shane]

It's amazing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, let's Go.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, it's awesome.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Wait, what are we gonna say to them? Oh, what is it?

[Jake Shane]

What was it? Oh, the sister I would prescribe. Sister. Sister, the show. I think that shows good.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Everything you've been saying is just to watch a TV show.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, cool.

[Jake Shane]

What would you prescribe?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't know, like, get a new sister or something.

[Jake Shane]

Or like. I'm trying to think of, like, a movie where this is a parent trap. Yeah, well, there's no, like, love in that with boys. I'm trying to think, like, America and Ashley. Yeah. My dad wrote a Mary Kay and Ashley film.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

What?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Which one?

[Jake Shane]

Switching goals. Isn't that crazy?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That is crazy.

[Jake Shane]

It's like my claim to fame.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's so cool. I love them so much.

[Jake Shane]

Did you ever watch what's the paradise one? They, like, go to, like, some tropical.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Holiday in the sun.

[Jake Shane]

Holiday in the sun. Passport to Paris.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I watched all of them.

[Jake Shane]

So good.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Olives are sealed. Winning.

[Jake Shane]

That's where they're the Spies or the under the Witness production. Yes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Winning London.

[Jake Shane]

I. Yeah, I think I have seen Winning London. Remember the. The Hollywood. The Halloween specials they would do?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And New York winners.

[Jake Shane]

I love New York minute.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. So good.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, I love Mary Kane, Ashley.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's so good.

[Jake Shane]

And now they have the row.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, they're just killing it.

[Jake Shane]

So chic.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So chic and cool.

[Jake Shane]

We caught our new roommate lying to a group of people at a party we were hosting about having a dead dad. Like, would not stop trauma bragging. We literally have met her biological father. He helped us move in. Is this weird enough for confrontation or is it a laugh it off thing?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

That's definitely strange behavior, don't you think? Like, that's. Wait, what have you done that?

[Jake Shane]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. To play devil's advocate, someone else could be a father figure to her.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. What do you mean?

[Jake Shane]

Like, her biological dad might not be her, like, the one she refers to as dad, but it is interesting that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Could be a father figure that had died in her life.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, it's definitely, like, something maybe to ask her about.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, definitely ask. And it's very a sensitive subject, so don't be confident too for confrontational.

[Jake Shane]

Right. And don't do it as a group.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

When you approach it. Yeah, but, like, definitely, I would maybe say, oh, like, I was confused about this because I've met your dad. But you said your dad is dead.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, what's going on there?

[Jake Shane]

That's a good. That's a really good way to ask.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

The girl I was friends with stopped talking to me when I asked her for money. We were at a pre game before a party up function for my sorority and I asked her to pay me back for a night out. I covered for her just the other night, like drinks, food, cover charge, everything. She literally blew up and left the party. We haven't spoken since and things are super awkward. What the help.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, that's really unfortunate.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, that does suck.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. Because it's like she needs to kind of pay you back, you need that money back and. But what's going on there?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know. It doesn't seem like this is a long lasting friendship.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No.

[Jake Shane]

Than you over that.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Exactly. It sounds a bit toxic.

[Jake Shane]

Maybe ask like is there's something else going on?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, is there something else going on? But I don't like the sound of that.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. I prescribe like a Venmo request charge. What do you guys use in the uk?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

People keep asking me for the.

[Jake Shane]

You gotta get it. You're here enough.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I know, but like do I need like an American card for that?

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

So what do you, what do you use in the uk? Apple cash?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

We use Monzo. Or you just do bank transfer.

[Jake Shane]

You like whackamama.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

I love waking up.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Chicken katsu curry.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But I get the mini one.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

From the kids menu.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

I'm trying to think of like where else I went in London that I was like so clinically addicted to. I mean I was in a really not touristy part, but like a. Not like I was staying in Soho. I stayed in Mayfair.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, okay. Nice.

[Jake Shane]

And I went. I had the best dirty martini of my entire life at the con op.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, wow. It's so in the red room.

[Jake Shane]

No, we tried to get into the red room and they were like, it's booked and busy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. The Connaught is so nice.

[Jake Shane]

So nice.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. I don't like martinis.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I don't like olives.

[Jake Shane]

Have you been to China Tang?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

No.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, it's amazing.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

To be fair, I've already been to many like Mayfair restaurants. They're so fancy.

[Jake Shane]

They are really fancy.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. And like so expensive and like fancy. I like, don't. I never really go to eat. I'm like not a foodie at all.

[Jake Shane]

Okay.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like I literally don't really love like food.

[Jake Shane]

Right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like I obviously love to eat, but like I don't. I'm not like a foodie at all.

[Jake Shane]

Right. We're having a family reunion this year. Basically out of nowhere, like we've never done this. I haven't spoken with most of my family in forever because we moved across the country, like, 10 years ago, and they neglect us for that. How do I not make this thing super awkward and try to have a good time with the people I barely even know? Lol.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I feel like you just have to, like, think that you might not have the best time in the world. Like, you're going to a family function where you don't know that many people. You haven't seen them in ages. So I think, like, prepare for the worst.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And hope for the best. Like, it's not like, you're gonna have the best night of your life, but, like, you might. But, like, don't go into it thinking you will because you don't need to.

[Jake Shane]

And also, like, buddy up with your family.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, buddy up with your family. But, like, know that, like, it might be awkward, but, like, that's okay. Like, it's not normal to, like, be best friends with family members that you, like, never see.

[Jake Shane]

Right. I prescribe Sweet Home Alabama.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Love that.

[Jake Shane]

That was a good one.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Isn't, like, every single thing that Reese Witherspoon in amazing? Like, she just is never in anything bad?

[Jake Shane]

Have you ever seen Little Fires Everywhere?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I started reading the book, and then I didn't buy and watch the series.

[Jake Shane]

She was in that, right?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

She produced it. Yeah. I think she was in as well.

[Jake Shane]

She was right. Oh, God. They never did a season two of that. So good. My boss said I'm on my phone too much at work. Is it crazy that this has made me start to look for a new job? Help. Am I crazy?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Is this. Did you write this one? Is this you?

[Jake Shane]

I actually have a funny story about this. I got fired from an internship in college because I was on my phone too much.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, wow.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Interesting. So the boss has said, you're on your phone too much.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. And they're like, yeah. So I'm just gonna go get a new job then.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay. No, that's not a good idea. Because then the thing. Same thing's gonna happen again in your next job. Like, you probably need to, like, stop being on your phone so much.

[Jake Shane]

I know, but, like, sometimes we can't help it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, you should start helping it.

[Jake Shane]

I know.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Like, I actually was, like, texting this guy, and, like, he would. We. For some reason, he was, like, only texting me, like, kind of late at night, like, before midnight. And then at midnight, he would then be like, gotta go. I gotta put my phone away. And then he sent me a photo of, like, this. This basically, like, secure box that he would lock his phone in, like, at night to, like, not go on it anymore. Oh, I don't know. I thought that was a bit of a red flag.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, really?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

He locked his phone away? And also, I'm like, you're locking your phone away, like, when you're sleeping.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. What if something happens?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

But also, like, you're sleeping anyway. So, like, what's the point, right?

[Jake Shane]

I mean, so he doesn't sit up and scroll.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, probably.

[Jake Shane]

I'm a big scroller.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah.

[Jake Shane]

Like, right.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'm like, I. I am thinking that something is needs to change, like, in the world. Like, I've been thinking about it recently. Like, I actually feel like, what if we all, like, revolted and we're like, we're not going to be on social media anymore.

[Jake Shane]

I am not partaking in that revolt.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, yeah, I know, but, like, I've been thinking about it because do feel like people's brains are being altered, like, and people are, like, getting more depressed and all these, like, quite negative things.

[Jake Shane]

Yes.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

So I feel like we're all addicted to our phones and social media because, like, the algorithms make us be. And I'm like, at one, at some point, we're gonna all just be like, we go, we can't take this anymore.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. I will definitely wait for other people to lead the charge on that. But, like, I am a follower, though. Like, I will partake in it if everyone else is. But the thing is, I am so addicted, like, when I'm without my phone. Like, and I've been addicted to plenty of things in my life. I was very addicted to weed, the puff, like this, that, and the third, my. There is no addiction like that. My phone, like, I, like, scratch myself when I don't have my phone. I'm like, where is it?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, I mean, I actually have that, too. To be fair, I am also addicted to my phone.

[Jake Shane]

Like, I feel like my friend Brett, like, I'm pretty sure her, like, thumb is, like, permanently like this.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

This.

[Jake Shane]

Because, like, all we're. Oh, we're always on our phone so much. It's like this.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah. What are we gonna do about it?

[Jake Shane]

I don't know. Let go and let God revolt.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I think there should be an uprising.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. You can start it.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Viva revolution.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah. Against the phones. I saw my friend's boyfriend with another girl. They're in their honeymoon phase, and my friend gets super defensive about him. How should I tell her, hey, girl.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Your boyfriend's cheating on you.

[Jake Shane]

What if she's like, you're lying.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, well, I don't know. I saw your. What? I saw your boyfriend with another girl.

[Jake Shane]

I would prescribe season two of Jersey Shore when Jenny and Snooki tell Sammy that Ron is cheating on her via a note.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Okay, do the note, then.

[Jake Shane]

Do the note. And, you know, it gets them in trouble. And Jenny beats Sam's ass, and it's a hole to do. Actually, that's maybe problematic because people think Sammy beat Jenny's ass, but I thought Johnny beat Sammy's ass.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I think the note is a good idea.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Because it's going to be on an anonymous note until it's not.

[Jake Shane]

But for you, in your case, it probably is. But I feel like they're. Her friend is going to be like, this is.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, but then. Or you could. Or you could confront the guy.

[Jake Shane]

He'll be. What if he's like. Who's gonna believe you?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Well, that you'll. That.

[Jake Shane]

Or maybe he'll be like, record the conversation.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yeah, yeah. With, like, a secret mic.

[Jake Shane]

Yeah, yeah.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And a camera.

[Jake Shane]

All right, well, that was our last. Tell me what's wrong.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Jake Shane]

Well, Emilio, what did we learn today?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

We learned about loads of new TV shows that you can be prescribed when you're. When you have a problem.

[Jake Shane]

Huh.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

And we learned that you have something wrong with your nose.

[Jake Shane]

Yes. Deviated septum.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

A deviated septum.

[Jake Shane]

I learned that you're not a foodie.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

I'm not foodie.

[Jake Shane]

And I've learned that you're really, really good at prepping for things, and you work very hard.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Oh, thank you.

[Jake Shane]

That's my biggest takeaway is that you work super hard and you have a really good mindset.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Yes, I do. And I've. I've learned today that you are incredibly talented, naturally. And that's annoying.

[Jake Shane]

Oh, okay. Well, Amelia, thanks for stopping by the therapist's office.

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Thank you for having me.

[Jake Shane]

Want to say little bye, pussies?

[Amelia de Moldenberg]

Goodbye, pussy?